Welcome to Close it now, an H Vac sales training podcast with Sam Wakefield.
Speaker AHere we'll build your reputation in residential H Vac sales to be the expert influencer in your market.
Speaker AYou'll get insight into the top minds in the industry as they share their skills and hacks to help you on your journey.
Speaker AThis podcast isn't just about selling more.
Speaker AIt's about understanding your customers needs and building efficiencies behind the scenes so you can sell more but work less while being top of mind when people think H Vac.
Speaker ANow let's get started with your host of the Close it now podcast.
Speaker AThis is Sam Wakefield.
Speaker BAll right, welcome back.
Speaker BSam Wakefield here.
Speaker BThis is your drive time university.
Speaker BSo first of all, I want to give a humongous round of applause.
Speaker BCongratulations, Congratulations, virtual high five to one of my coaching clients, Mark.
Speaker BHe super quick backstory on him.
Speaker BHe has been in business for several years now, has never sold anything above a single stage piece of equipment and less than a week of coaching, he sold his very first fully communicating variable speed unit today.
Speaker BSo huge congrats to Mark.
Speaker BWay to go.
Speaker BAnd it just totally proves that this system freaking rocks.
Speaker BAnd it works and I love it.
Speaker BI love to hear about successes of all of you out there.
Speaker BHow are you doing?
Speaker BI heard another story this week as well.
Speaker BThanks Allison for meeting up with me.
Speaker BIt was a lot of fun.
Speaker BI enjoyed our lunch the other day.
Speaker BBut also she told me this cool story.
Speaker BShe has a salesperson that was.
Speaker BShe shared my podcast with.
Speaker BAnd then the next five sales were high end equipment.
Speaker BSo way to go, Way to go, Allison and your team over there.
Speaker BYou guys are awesome.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BBut that is, that's what we're seeing.
Speaker BWe're starting to hear some super awesome testimonies of just the system and how it works and just the belief and motivation to just do it.
Speaker BTo use new words and to take the steps in the process to get new results.
Speaker BDifferent results than you've ever gotten.
Speaker BSo way to go, Alison.
Speaker BAnd way to go, Mark.
Speaker BMan, I'm super proud of you, dude.
Speaker BThis is just the beginning.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BAnd that totally feeds into exactly what I want to talk about is the power of the process.
Speaker BI just left a project as well where I also sold a high end communicating piece of system.
Speaker BThe whole, you know, the whole shebang.
Speaker BAnd when I.
Speaker BSo here's my setup and then I'll get back to Mark here in a minute.
Speaker BBut so I get to this house and it's a turnover from a technician, which is awesome.
Speaker BWe all raise your Hand, if you like tech turnovers.
Speaker BSo did you know that a referral or a tech turnover, the close rate should be right around 80%.
Speaker BThat's 8,0%, which is awesome.
Speaker BIt's awesome.
Speaker BSo that's good.
Speaker BSo anytime you walk into a tech turnover or you walk into a referral from a friend from a past client, you should see about an 80% close rate, which is a great start.
Speaker BBut I walk into this house and the guy tells me instantly, well, let's just see what we're.
Speaker BIt's running.
Speaker BLet's just see what we're doing today.
Speaker BBecause I'm getting other bids.
Speaker BAnd of course, I'm following him up the stairs.
Speaker BAnd as soon as he said that, I couldn't help but grin because, you know, I was instantly recognized.
Speaker BOkay, here's his smoke screen.
Speaker BHe's like trying to push me off, but I didn't let it phase me at all.
Speaker BI just followed the system.
Speaker BSo I went through all of the process, went through the homeowner questionnaire, went through asking him what he's trying to accomplish, then ask for permission.
Speaker BWould you like to see how we can help you with these problems?
Speaker BAnd of course, the answer is yes.
Speaker BAnd ends up we're doing a brand new system.
Speaker BHe signs up right on the spot, closed it now in the house, and of course is doing a new system.
Speaker BThe point of that is, and now I'm going to jump back to the story with Mark.
Speaker BFrom what he was telling me, he said he showed it's super hot where he's at.
Speaker BIt's 100 degrees up in the Chicagoland area.
Speaker BAnd he goes to this, goes to this appointment.
Speaker BHe was actually there yesterday.
Speaker BIt turns out it was a breaker issue.
Speaker BGets there today, compressor's dead, right?
Speaker BCompressor's just dead.
Speaker BWhat he hears from the homeowner is, what's the cheapest way I can get out of this?
Speaker BWhat is the, you know, what's my cheap solution?
Speaker BSo, of course, when we hear that, what we typically go to is, you know, well, we can do a compressor replacement, but I don't recommend it.
Speaker BAnd you have that whole conversation or, you know, but what he did, he said, you know what?
Speaker BI was started to go into that same old conversation, but I remembered the system and said, you know what, let's go in and sit down for a minute and go over some things and then I can show you the options.
Speaker BSo it goes in, sits down with the homeowner and just, you know, really casually and not being weird, starts to draw out some of the differences in the equipment.
Speaker BAnd the guy says, really intrigued by communicating equipment.
Speaker BSo, oh man, that sounds really interesting.
Speaker BTell me more about that.
Speaker BAnd sure enough, he walks out of there with a fully variable speed sail, which is awesome.
Speaker BThat's awesome.
Speaker BBecause he didn't just go with what the homeowner, what he was hearing from the homeowner, he went with what went with the system, went with what he knows is going to be the best solution, which is educate them first and let them decide what's going to be the best fit.
Speaker BThe traditional technician would just say, okay, you asked for something cheap, let's just go with something cheap.
Speaker BWhereas when the key here is, well, if you don't mind, I'm going to take you through everything that's available and then you can decide what's going to be the best fit for you.
Speaker BThat way you can see it all and make a great educated decision.
Speaker BAnd when you tell the homeowner that, when you go through the process so often, I mean, 50% of the time with my numbers are, you know, variable speed, high end equipment, because you educate people and they get to choose what they want.
Speaker BAnother great sentence that people relate to is, you know, when you moved into this house, this system is a, it's a builder grade model.
Speaker BIt's what the, what they did kind of contractor grade with the house when it was built.
Speaker BSo you got handed something that you would never choose for yourself.
Speaker BNow you get the opportunity to pick what you would want in your own house.
Speaker BIt's like somebody else handing you a Yugo or, you know, handing you a basic little Kia or Ford Fiesta, something you would never choose for yourself.
Speaker BBut now you're stuck with this until it dies.
Speaker BOr now you get to choose what vehicle you're gonna drive.
Speaker BYou get to choose your Lexus, you get to choose your Camaro, you get to choose your Ford F150.
Speaker BYou don't get to have, you don't have to take a little Nissan Versa hatchback that somebody else gave you.
Speaker BAnd now you get to choose.
Speaker BSo it's the same thing with this.
Speaker BYou don't have to take what somebody else chose for you.
Speaker BYou get to decide, showing you all the options, then you can pick whatever you want.
Speaker BAnd that's exactly the kind of conversation he had.
Speaker BThat's the conversation I had.
Speaker BAnd that's totally what happens.
Speaker BAnd you take people through the options and let them be the judge, but don't shortcut it.
Speaker BAnd that's the importance here.
Speaker BThat is exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker BIs don't let.
Speaker BBecause it's hot, people are in a hurry, they're urgent.
Speaker BDon't let that derail you from following the system to go ahead and take.
Speaker BTake the time to sit down, take a breath, take a breather, take a breath, take them through all of their options.
Speaker BAnd don't shortcut anything with the system.
Speaker BYou wouldn't shortcut anything with the installation of the equipment.
Speaker BWhy would you shortcut anything in the sales process to get to what you're installing?
Speaker BSo that is part one of this podcast today.
Speaker BOkay, welcome back to part two.
Speaker BSo this episode we're talking about not skipping the steps in the process.
Speaker BYou have to communicate the right things in the right order for people to build on those items to get to where you want them to land, to understand all of the concepts and the ideas before you make an offer.
Speaker BAnd so this is so on the flip side of this.
Speaker BWhen you have a set system, when you have a plan, when you have the confidence that you have built, that you've done your preparation, when you've got the confidence that you're prepared for an appointment, when you've got a set system that you don't have to think about, you go through your list, you go through the steps in the right order.
Speaker BOne that frees your mind to focus on how the homeowner is responding, what they're thinking, to listen for what they're really wanting.
Speaker BBecause, remember, people write checks for what they want, not what they need.
Speaker BAnd it's our job to align what they want with the things that we know that they need.
Speaker BAs far as, you know, say, what the house could use, what the.
Speaker BWhat's causing the problems that are causing, making them want to make changes.
Speaker BSo the other side of having that system is, and it's not about necessarily being a robot, it has nothing to do with that.
Speaker BIt just means having a set order that you do things.
Speaker BWhen you go to the doctor, it would be so weird if you saw the doctor first and then the nurse came in and asked you the questions about what you're looking for.
Speaker BThat's out of order.
Speaker BIt doesn't make sense.
Speaker BYou don't go to the restaurant and walk through the meal backwards, have your last course first, and then move through that way.
Speaker BIt doesn't make any sense.
Speaker BSo it's the same thing with this.
Speaker BWe've got to go through the process in the right order.
Speaker BAnd when you have that set stone and you've got it down, you know the things you're going to cover in the Order that you're going to cover them.
Speaker BThat's when the magic really starts to happen because it gives you freedom.
Speaker BIt frees your mind to really focus on the things that are important, the energy of the room, how they're responding.
Speaker BThis is next level sales here.
Speaker BThis is what most courses don't talk about.
Speaker BMost courses, they'll teach you the.
Speaker BHere's the words to say, but they don't necessarily teach you how to say it.
Speaker BThey'll teach you the, okay, you're going to ask these questions and you're going to look for these things, but they don't teach you to the psychology behind why that question was crafted to start with and how it was crafted.
Speaker BThey don't teach you to listen.
Speaker BWatch for the energy.
Speaker BWatch when people change emotion, how to change your tonality and your voice, which we're going to get to deeply at some point.
Speaker BSo this is next level sales.
Speaker BThis is what makes or breaks any great salesperson.
Speaker BEvery single top performer.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't even matter the industry, I guarantee you that they're going to be teaching this even if they don't know that they're doing it.
Speaker BIt might just be from intuition or just a natural raw talent, something they've developed over time.
Speaker BIt's definitely what's happening.
Speaker BIt's what sends them to the next level.
Speaker BThat's why.
Speaker BSo we've got a guy on our team, he was a retired police office.
Speaker BThat's why people who come out of law enforcement and detectives and those kind of things make fantastic salespeople because they're trained to read body language.
Speaker BThey're trained to read how the other people are responding, how to look for buying signals, how to look for signals of resistance, how to tell if people are telling the truth or if it's maybe a fib.
Speaker BWhen you start to develop these skills, this is how you're able to really cut through, through all of the smoke screens that the clients try to give you.
Speaker BHaving a system is part of that, because then you don't have to think about what the next step is.
Speaker BIt just becomes part of you, and then you can respond.
Speaker BThere's another side of this too that is very powerful.
Speaker BSo a little story from my life and from my experience.
Speaker BThere was a season in my life for about a year that I was basically mentally checked out.
Speaker BI had a bunch of tragedy happen in my life that left me just in a horrible state in my personal life.
Speaker BNow we really talk a lot about hanging.
Speaker BLeaving that out of the appointment, leaving it out of the Sales call.
Speaker BBut there's some things that you just can't.
Speaker BIt's a black cloud on your brain.
Speaker BWell, I had a.
Speaker BAt that point, I was in a real small market, but I was doing just amazing numbers.
Speaker BI've always, always sold over a million dollars, but.
Speaker BWhich is not bad in a town of 13,000 people.
Speaker BBut it, you know, what happened that year is things are going along, my numbers are awesome, we're doing great.
Speaker BAnd then the next year, all of this tragedy happens.
Speaker BMy numbers didn't go down, which was when looking back, it blows my mind.
Speaker BAnd the reason that they didn't is because I had a system.
Speaker BSo what I did, I just leaned into the system and just said, you know what?
Speaker BI am really not mentally here.
Speaker BI'm kind of checked out.
Speaker BAnd I knew that, but I had to do it anyway.
Speaker BAnd that's what top producers and top achievers do.
Speaker BYou show up anyway.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what the situation is.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what's going on in life.
Speaker BYou show up when you don't feel like it, you show up.
Speaker BAnd that is showing up is, you know, was it 80% of success, 90% of success?
Speaker BWhat is that old quote?
Speaker BI'll have to look it up.
Speaker BBut showing up, that is what, what, you know, what, top achievers.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what the weather is that day.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter what's going on.
Speaker BYou show up.
Speaker BSo that's what I did that year.
Speaker BI just, I showed up, I leaned into the system, I said, you know what?
Speaker BI'm going to trust this system.
Speaker BI know it works because I've proven it in the past.
Speaker BSo I'm just going to trust that the system is going to do it for me, even though I wasn't completely mentally there and my numbers didn't go down.
Speaker BAnd it was a testament to having really a set path, a way to answer questions when they come up.
Speaker BBecause we all know that there's really only a handful of basic objections that anybody will ever give you in future episodes, we're going to break those apart one at a time and cover the.
Speaker BI want to think about it and the.
Speaker BWell, what do you thinks and check with my spouse and all those things.
Speaker BBut there's lots of ways to handle those.
Speaker BBut when you know what to say and how to respond to each one of those, a big part of it is showing up and just doing it.
Speaker BCould my numbers have been better that year?
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BHad I been fully checked in.
Speaker BAnd thankfully, over time I got, you know, I Got control of it, obviously, life moves on.
Speaker BYou know, Jim Rohn, a mentor of mine, he says one of his famous quotes that absolutely hit home with me in that point in time is the winds of life blow the same on every single person.
Speaker BThere's ups, there's downs, there's tragedies with everyone.
Speaker BBut if the winds of life are blowing on you and we're all ships on the sea, it's how you set your sail that determines where your destination ends up, if you're going to get slammed into the rocks, or if you're going to go on an adventure and find new lands and seek a new destination.
Speaker BNow, that's my paraphrase version.
Speaker BBut the winds of life blow the same on every person.
Speaker BIt's how you set your sail that determines where you're going.
Speaker BAnd so that's it.
Speaker BYou choose to overcome.
Speaker BYou can choose joy, you can choose to be happy, you can choose to overcome things.
Speaker BAnd in that moment, trusting the system and choosing just to use the system the way it was written is just a beautiful, fantastic way to survive.
Speaker BIt was great then.
Speaker BAnd so that's the other side of having something that is something that works, having a system, developing a pattern for yourself of this is how I do it every single time.
Speaker BThis is my method.
Speaker BAnd of course, I've got the Close it now system, which I.
Speaker BA lot of that is what I'm training in these podcasts.
Speaker BAnd over time, there's going to be.
Speaker BYou can piece them together or you can join one of the coaching programs at CloseItNow.net, you can read more about those and we can really deep dive into helping you develop your own system.
Speaker BBut the point is to have a system, have a set order of things that you do every appointment.
Speaker BThat way, when you're mentally there, when you're not mentally there, you can still lean in to it and still have success, still see results, still see proactive, moving forward achievement, because you know you've written a successful system.
Speaker BSo that is the other side of having a.
Speaker BHaving patterns.
Speaker BDon't put things out of order, don't break the system just because situations change or you feel different.
Speaker BAnd it's wildly successful that everybody who are top performers a way that they do things that if you were to follow them for a thousand appointments, you're gonna find probably 995 of those appointments go almost exactly alike because they have something that works and they have a set system that makes sense.
Speaker BSo that is part two for today's episode.
Speaker BThank you for listening.
Speaker BI know it's been.
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