1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,040 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,040 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,040 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,720 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,840 In this podcast, you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,420 Their stories, in many cases of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:34,700 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,140 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:41,660 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:44,060 --> 00:00:44,980 Hello, good people. 16 00:00:44,980 --> 00:00:49,660 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:50,140 --> 00:00:53,700 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:59,850 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:00:59,850 --> 00:01:02,170 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:03,450 --> 00:01:08,250 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:17,210 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern time at YouTube.com heavenorthchurch. 22 00:01:18,730 --> 00:01:23,690 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 23 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:28,320 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:36,280 and on the website, which is heavenearthchurch.org Here is Heaven 25 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,800 Earth Church Pastor Ross Stackhouse with the message, flourishing 26 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,040 in your true self and strengths. 27 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:49,200 Lord, please shed your light on us. 28 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:58,570 Wake us up to the gift of your love, a lavish kind of love that 29 00:01:59,290 --> 00:02:05,250 maybe we haven't worked hard to earn, but you give it because 30 00:02:05,250 --> 00:02:10,050 you decided it's something that we can receive and be changed 31 00:02:10,050 --> 00:02:11,010 by and share with others. 32 00:02:11,010 --> 00:02:12,330 So help us to do so. 33 00:02:13,690 --> 00:02:16,410 In the name of Jesus, amen. 34 00:02:17,450 --> 00:02:20,680 Can somebody grab me a bottle of water from the back? 35 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:21,440 Jamon's coming. 36 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:22,040 Look at this. 37 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,360 If you want to throw it, you can. 38 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Either way. 39 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Whatever you want, dude. 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:31,720 Yep, It's a good throw, man. 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,520 It's one of those things, like where that's 0 for 1 on your stat 42 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,840 sheet, but really it's a drop. 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,440 So that's my bad, dude. 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,280 So they're going to release me. 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:44,040 It's okay. 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,400 So a lot of us think like, so this is us. 47 00:02:48,640 --> 00:02:49,440 Remember the pot? 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,880 Anybody else remember this guy? 49 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,600 If you're new to church, you missed it one time. 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,000 I had this pot up front. 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,520 I'm really giving Heather a hard time today, but I smashed this 52 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:00,800 pot. 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:10,720 She had a panic attack over it, but so I had this pot and I smashed 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:10,880 it. 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,140 Because I talk about how, like, this is what the world does 56 00:03:14,140 --> 00:03:14,540 to us. 57 00:03:14,540 --> 00:03:15,860 Like, we come into the world. 58 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:20,660 The Apostle Paul says, we are like jars of clay that hold treasure. 59 00:03:21,860 --> 00:03:23,060 So it's Kind of like this. 60 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:28,100 But if you exist in the world for about five minutes, this world, 61 00:03:28,100 --> 00:03:29,220 that is not as it should be. 62 00:03:29,220 --> 00:03:31,620 It beats the crap out of you. 63 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:36,420 I hope you're allowed to say crap in church. 64 00:03:37,310 --> 00:03:38,190 I just said it twice. 65 00:03:39,550 --> 00:03:40,350 So anyways. 66 00:03:42,910 --> 00:03:47,910 And the goal of what Jesus comes to do is not to give you a 67 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:52,590 golden ticket to some paradise with golden streets, if that's what 68 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:53,830 you've heard Christianity is. 69 00:03:53,830 --> 00:03:54,910 I'm sorry, that's not it. 70 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:55,390 It's. 71 00:03:55,390 --> 00:03:59,790 And I'm not sorry because it's way, way, way better. 72 00:04:01,390 --> 00:04:05,110 Jesus comes to restore you. 73 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:08,070 That's what discipleship with him is. 74 00:04:08,950 --> 00:04:11,750 He comes to restore the entire creation. 75 00:04:12,790 --> 00:04:15,990 He says in Revelation, behold, I'm making all things new. 76 00:04:16,950 --> 00:04:22,430 So he comes to restore you this jar of clay so that you hold 77 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:23,110 treasure. 78 00:04:23,910 --> 00:04:26,710 And just like this, you actually don't want to be a nice 79 00:04:26,710 --> 00:04:28,230 perfect jar anymore. 80 00:04:29,280 --> 00:04:31,920 You actually want the cracks so that. 81 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Hold on a minute. 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,080 So that you do something like this, Rachel, wherever you are, I'll 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,120 clean this up, I swear. 84 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:52,640 So that as the Spirit pours into you and as grace pours into 85 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 you, it also pours out. 86 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,320 Grace pours into and through the cracks. 87 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,640 We don't want to be shiny, perfect, golden people. 88 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,639 We want to be broken and repaired, people who give out grace 89 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,920 and gifts. 90 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,840 And the problem is, though, we also think maybe it works like this. 91 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:19,400 I'm not going to do the whole bottle, so everyone can, if you're 92 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:20,400 worried about that. 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,470 But like, we think, all right, to go get a little grace today from 94 00:05:24,470 --> 00:05:29,550 Jesus, and then you pour it out and then your cup is empty. 95 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:37,470 That's not how it works, actually, from Jesus's angle, our 96 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:40,830 angle, we may think it's like that, but I stole this from. 97 00:05:40,830 --> 00:05:42,830 Her name is Kenda Creasy Dean. 98 00:05:43,550 --> 00:05:47,190 I thought about bringing the Hose in today, but I thought that 99 00:05:47,190 --> 00:05:51,220 would be a bad idea for our neighbors downstairs and for the 100 00:05:51,220 --> 00:05:56,700 structure of the building, actually, there is a constant fount 101 00:05:57,500 --> 00:05:57,980 font. 102 00:05:59,020 --> 00:06:01,740 I don't know, water's coming in all the time. 103 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:08,460 From Jesus's angle, the grace is non stop, nonstop. 104 00:06:10,140 --> 00:06:14,630 It's whether we are aware of it, receiving it, being, being filled 105 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:15,110 by it. 106 00:06:16,230 --> 00:06:18,190 And that's what I want to talk to you about today. 107 00:06:18,190 --> 00:06:19,950 I want to talk to you about this whole. 108 00:06:19,950 --> 00:06:21,350 We're in this series called. 109 00:06:22,470 --> 00:06:24,470 Can you throw that image up there, Hudson? 110 00:06:24,470 --> 00:06:26,470 If you're on the image. 111 00:06:26,470 --> 00:06:26,950 Bingo. 112 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:27,310 That one. 113 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:29,270 We're in a series called Everyone has a Place. 114 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:37,630 And we're talking about how in the kingdom of Jesus, it isn't like 115 00:06:37,630 --> 00:06:42,480 our world, our World is a world of hierarchy. 116 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:42,880 Yes. 117 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,640 Like, everybody's, like, at different rungs on the ladder, right. 118 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,960 Sometimes in the career world, everybody's hustling to get to a 119 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,240 higher rung on the ladder. 120 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:54,640 Right. 121 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,360 And sometimes it gets competitive and it gets nasty, even 122 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,200 in places where we're serving people. 123 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:08,100 Even gets competitive and nasty in places like schools, nonprofits, 124 00:07:09,380 --> 00:07:10,100 churches. 125 00:07:10,980 --> 00:07:16,580 Did you know that there are egos in church politics? 126 00:07:18,340 --> 00:07:22,740 These institutions that are meant to serve people just become 127 00:07:22,740 --> 00:07:23,820 another hierarchy. 128 00:07:23,820 --> 00:07:27,460 Because our human nature is built for hierarchies. 129 00:07:28,740 --> 00:07:34,330 If our nature is not restored, we sign up for the hierarchy. 130 00:07:35,770 --> 00:07:39,170 And I'm going to read you a letter today in a minute to talk 131 00:07:39,170 --> 00:07:43,530 about this concept where it's a letter written by a guy named Paul, 132 00:07:45,370 --> 00:07:53,450 who, if we think we exist in a world of hierarchies, he was even 133 00:07:53,450 --> 00:07:55,730 more so in a hierarchy. 134 00:07:55,730 --> 00:08:00,300 But before I do that, I want to ask you, in your ordinary life, 135 00:08:00,300 --> 00:08:04,540 in the places where you live, work, learn, and play, how do you 136 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:06,820 experience that ladder I just talked about? 137 00:08:08,020 --> 00:08:09,460 How do you relate to it? 138 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:11,220 You can answer that anyway. 139 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:12,500 How does it make you feel? 140 00:08:12,980 --> 00:08:16,020 Do you find yourself tempted to participate in it? 141 00:08:17,380 --> 00:08:18,380 How does that work for you? 142 00:08:18,380 --> 00:08:19,540 I'd be interested to hear. 143 00:08:21,620 --> 00:08:22,420 How do you experience. 144 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,900 How do you relate to the hierarchies of your life? 145 00:08:26,300 --> 00:08:27,100 PT Go ahead. 146 00:08:27,180 --> 00:08:31,420 People who make more money than I always need to consider themselves 147 00:08:31,420 --> 00:08:32,140 much better. 148 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:33,140 You. 149 00:08:33,140 --> 00:08:34,380 You experience that. 150 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:38,260 People who make more money have a sense of, like, superiority 151 00:08:38,260 --> 00:08:38,860 sometimes. 152 00:08:45,580 --> 00:08:51,430 So you're confirming there's a hierarchy even in the church others, 153 00:08:53,030 --> 00:08:56,150 what's it like in your world, this world of hierarchy you live 154 00:08:56,150 --> 00:08:56,470 in? 155 00:08:59,510 --> 00:09:00,870 You make your own ladder. 156 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:01,510 Okay. 157 00:09:02,310 --> 00:09:02,790 All right. 158 00:09:07,110 --> 00:09:08,390 Some jobs you have to. 159 00:09:08,710 --> 00:09:11,190 You're either climbing or you're falling. 160 00:09:11,990 --> 00:09:15,230 You can't just chill if you're not climbing. 161 00:09:15,230 --> 00:09:17,040 They're like, hey, sit down. 162 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,120 We need to have a conversation with you. 163 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:27,840 Others of you, how do you experience it in your world, in your 164 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:32,720 organization where you live, work, learn, and play? 165 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:37,760 Does everyone have a place? 166 00:09:43,530 --> 00:09:45,130 Even people who work in the. 167 00:09:47,130 --> 00:09:49,850 The bleeding heart nonprofit people in the room? 168 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:51,130 Does everyone have a place? 169 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:54,490 It's everywhere, isn't it? 170 00:09:56,410 --> 00:09:57,130 Everywhere. 171 00:09:57,290 --> 00:10:00,290 And the reason is we'll talk about this at the end is like, there's 172 00:10:00,290 --> 00:10:02,090 part of our human nature again. 173 00:10:03,050 --> 00:10:08,180 It's part of our culture that we are built 4. 174 00:10:09,540 --> 00:10:15,940 Like climbing the ladder and trying to get to the top place, or 175 00:10:15,940 --> 00:10:19,380 we go to the other extreme because we don't get to the top place. 176 00:10:19,860 --> 00:10:24,940 We feel that we aren't worthy, and so we just kind of feel like 177 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:26,020 nothing at the bottom. 178 00:10:27,460 --> 00:10:30,660 That's why I want to read this letter to you today. 179 00:10:30,980 --> 00:10:35,770 I want to shed light on this concept of everyone has a place today. 180 00:10:35,770 --> 00:10:41,450 I hope to build you up in the belief that you have a special place 181 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:43,370 in Jesus Kingdom. 182 00:10:43,690 --> 00:10:45,370 That's not just a cool idea. 183 00:10:45,770 --> 00:10:49,610 He proved it in his ministry, the way he lived. 184 00:10:50,250 --> 00:10:52,370 And he did it also with this Paul guy. 185 00:10:52,370 --> 00:10:55,210 But first, I want to give you context, because context is important. 186 00:10:55,290 --> 00:10:58,650 Reading the Bible a lot of times. 187 00:10:58,730 --> 00:11:00,650 The Bible, we say this all the time. 188 00:11:00,650 --> 00:11:02,090 The Bible is very weird. 189 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:05,230 Very weird library to hang out in. 190 00:11:05,710 --> 00:11:06,350 Okay? 191 00:11:06,750 --> 00:11:10,030 Context can help, but it's not going to cure the weirdness. 192 00:11:11,470 --> 00:11:13,150 It's a beautiful weird, though. 193 00:11:13,150 --> 00:11:17,550 Much like our church, we specialize in weird here at Heaven 194 00:11:17,550 --> 00:11:17,950 Earth. 195 00:11:18,750 --> 00:11:21,990 So Paul is in pretty much a lot of his letters. 196 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:23,030 You can conclude this. 197 00:11:23,030 --> 00:11:25,870 He is in jail while he's writing this letter. 198 00:11:27,550 --> 00:11:31,310 He was a guy who was throwing people in jail for following Jesus. 199 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:36,060 Then he became a guy who was imprisoned because he became a follower 200 00:11:36,060 --> 00:11:36,620 of Jesus. 201 00:11:38,460 --> 00:11:39,980 Is that climbing the ladder? 202 00:11:43,580 --> 00:11:47,260 He jumped off the ladder and destroyed the ladder. 203 00:11:48,220 --> 00:11:51,580 He says in Philippians 3, I climbed to the top of the ladder. 204 00:11:51,660 --> 00:11:54,140 I consider all that stuff the top now. 205 00:11:54,140 --> 00:11:56,700 Sewer trash compared to following Jesus. 206 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:58,150 Forget it. 207 00:12:00,230 --> 00:12:04,390 And so he went around planting church communities, telling people 208 00:12:04,390 --> 00:12:09,150 like he did to the Corinthians in Corinth and Greece. 209 00:12:09,150 --> 00:12:12,350 Like, he wrote them back and said, hey, because they guess what 210 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:15,190 they did five minutes after they started a church. 211 00:12:15,270 --> 00:12:16,230 What were they doing? 212 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:18,950 Our faction of Christianity is better than yours. 213 00:12:18,950 --> 00:12:19,990 You guys are idiots. 214 00:12:20,390 --> 00:12:21,430 You follow Paul. 215 00:12:21,430 --> 00:12:22,350 We follow Apollos. 216 00:12:22,350 --> 00:12:23,430 They follow Cephas. 217 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:24,470 You guys are idiots. 218 00:12:24,470 --> 00:12:25,230 We're the right ones. 219 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:26,325 We're at the top of the ladder. 220 00:12:26,325 --> 00:12:26,420 We. 221 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:31,690 I mean, like, man, just like that, they turned church into a ladder. 222 00:12:33,130 --> 00:12:36,410 And so Paul says, hey, you guys, we are all part of one body. 223 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:40,170 We are all members of one body. 224 00:12:40,810 --> 00:12:43,290 He says it again to the romans in chapter 12. 225 00:12:44,730 --> 00:12:47,130 And then he'll say it again here to the Ephesians. 226 00:12:47,530 --> 00:12:50,970 Ephesus was the town of the communities to whom he was writing. 227 00:12:51,530 --> 00:12:54,570 He went around to these different cities bearing witness 228 00:12:54,570 --> 00:12:58,010 to pouring out the treasure that was in his broken pot. 229 00:12:59,290 --> 00:13:00,330 He just poured out. 230 00:13:00,650 --> 00:13:03,410 He lived into his giftedness as an apostle. 231 00:13:03,410 --> 00:13:05,890 We're going to talk about that because every single one of you is 232 00:13:05,890 --> 00:13:08,330 an apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd, or teacher. 233 00:13:08,330 --> 00:13:09,050 Did you know? 234 00:13:10,890 --> 00:13:12,090 Every single one of you. 235 00:13:13,850 --> 00:13:15,850 But I want to show you what he says first. 236 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:18,410 This is the letter to the Ephesians. 237 00:13:19,460 --> 00:13:22,300 Listen to what he does think about that ladder that I'm telling 238 00:13:22,300 --> 00:13:22,460 you. 239 00:13:22,460 --> 00:13:25,460 About and how he speaks to this concept of ladder. 240 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:35,860 The opposite of ladder for Paul is, wait for it. 241 00:13:37,220 --> 00:13:39,460 I, therefore, the prisoner in the Lord. 242 00:13:41,540 --> 00:13:43,300 Sometimes he means that metaphorically. 243 00:13:45,230 --> 00:13:49,870 He feels happy to be, like, responsible and obligated to Jesus. 244 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:51,150 It's a joy that he's received. 245 00:13:51,630 --> 00:13:54,750 I, therefore, the prisoner in the Lord, beg you to walk in a manner 246 00:13:54,750 --> 00:13:57,070 worthy of the calling to which you have been called. 247 00:13:57,630 --> 00:14:03,510 Every single person in this room is called sometimes. 248 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,790 Like, maybe you grew up in church traditions where, like, it's 249 00:14:05,790 --> 00:14:07,790 only the preachers who are called to ministry. 250 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:12,370 That's a big fat stupid lie. 251 00:14:15,330 --> 00:14:19,130 The division between clergy and laity is a lie that was formed 252 00:14:19,130 --> 00:14:20,210 out of the pits of hell. 253 00:14:22,530 --> 00:14:25,410 I'm just a dude with you. 254 00:14:27,170 --> 00:14:28,170 Following the Lord. 255 00:14:28,170 --> 00:14:33,250 Together we are all called. 256 00:14:33,570 --> 00:14:38,250 And he's saying to all of these people in Ephesians, I beg 257 00:14:38,250 --> 00:14:42,770 each of you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling. 258 00:14:45,890 --> 00:14:51,010 With all humility and gentleness, with patience bearing 259 00:14:51,010 --> 00:14:52,370 with one another in love. 260 00:14:53,170 --> 00:14:55,650 Do you see how he's busting up the ladder here? 261 00:14:58,130 --> 00:15:00,130 This is a new guy, Paul. 262 00:15:01,810 --> 00:15:06,080 Paul had ascended to be like the CEO of his religion. 263 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:12,560 He was up in the executive suite getting like stock options 264 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:13,280 and stuff. 265 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,920 I don't even know what a stock option is. 266 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,000 But guess what happened? 267 00:15:20,799 --> 00:15:22,480 He met Jesus on the road. 268 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,360 And Jesus said, why are you persecuting me? 269 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:30,800 He had a vision of the risen Lord. 270 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,880 And Jesus said, why are you persecuting me? 271 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,210 I always tell people with that verse, how is Paul persecuting Jesus? 272 00:15:37,210 --> 00:15:38,690 Because he was persecuting people. 273 00:15:39,570 --> 00:15:42,690 When you persecute somebody vulnerable, you persecute Jesus. 274 00:15:42,850 --> 00:15:46,650 Jesus says, when you have not done it to the least of these, when 275 00:15:46,650 --> 00:15:49,010 you've not helped them, you have not done it for me. 276 00:15:50,610 --> 00:15:53,650 So when we neglect somebody who's vulnerable, we neglect Jesus. 277 00:15:54,770 --> 00:15:56,050 Paul was doing just that. 278 00:15:56,050 --> 00:15:57,410 He had a vision of Jesus. 279 00:15:57,730 --> 00:15:59,730 Jesus said, why are you persecuting me? 280 00:15:59,970 --> 00:16:03,010 Paul was blinded, couldn't eat, couldn't drink for three days. 281 00:16:03,670 --> 00:16:06,190 And then he got filled up. 282 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:09,030 And he kept getting filled up and he kept pouring it out. 283 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:12,030 All of a sudden, ego driven Paul was. 284 00:16:12,030 --> 00:16:17,430 Humility filled Paul, pouring it out, bearing fruits of the Spirit. 285 00:16:18,630 --> 00:16:21,830 He says it in Galatians, the fruits of the Spirit are love, joy, 286 00:16:21,830 --> 00:16:25,110 peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness, 287 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:25,830 and self control. 288 00:16:25,830 --> 00:16:31,920 Man, he started bearing that fruit and he gave it to others to 289 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,160 build them up, not to climb the ladder for himself. 290 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,360 Making every. 291 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:40,960 Here's the opposite of the ladder. 292 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,720 Making every effort to maintain the. 293 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:44,960 Can you read the next word? 294 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,840 Making every effort to maintain the Paul's going to do a 295 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,840 wild thing in this chapter. 296 00:16:55,370 --> 00:17:00,570 He's going to highlight this impossible diversity of God's creation 297 00:17:00,890 --> 00:17:06,010 and also bear witness to the improbable unity that we can have 298 00:17:06,090 --> 00:17:08,810 in the midst of this impossible diversity. 299 00:17:11,930 --> 00:17:14,010 He's saying, let's explode the ladder. 300 00:17:14,730 --> 00:17:15,770 Let's all be one. 301 00:17:17,210 --> 00:17:20,250 Let's all be on the same plane with Jesus. 302 00:17:23,739 --> 00:17:29,019 There is one body, one spirit, just as you were called to the one 303 00:17:29,019 --> 00:17:34,619 hope of your calling, One Lord, one faith, one baptism. 304 00:17:35,739 --> 00:17:39,659 There's one thing that we're all a part of, one thing through 305 00:17:39,659 --> 00:17:43,979 which we are all reborn, one thing for which we are built up, 306 00:17:46,950 --> 00:17:50,790 one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and 307 00:17:50,790 --> 00:17:51,350 in all. 308 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:53,550 Good Lord. 309 00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:54,150 Amen. 310 00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:57,430 You know what excites me about this? 311 00:17:58,470 --> 00:17:59,350 These folks. 312 00:17:59,350 --> 00:18:02,070 You know how many doctrines they had written out by this point? 313 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:05,030 Everybody hold up a big zero. 314 00:18:06,870 --> 00:18:09,510 They had no doctrines figured out yet that they had. 315 00:18:09,510 --> 00:18:12,070 Like, there was no scriptures yet. 316 00:18:13,540 --> 00:18:16,740 Somebody wrote this down like they were writing this down live. 317 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:20,260 They are. 318 00:18:20,340 --> 00:18:20,940 They have. 319 00:18:20,940 --> 00:18:22,500 They're filled with the Spirit. 320 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:24,100 They're navigating this hard life. 321 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:25,620 I'm not trashing doctrines. 322 00:18:26,500 --> 00:18:29,180 They're good guides, good structure to guide us in our. 323 00:18:29,180 --> 00:18:30,100 In a rich faith. 324 00:18:31,540 --> 00:18:34,020 But look at what he's able to do with the spirit. 325 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:39,060 The treasure filling his jar, and he just wants to pour it out. 326 00:18:41,790 --> 00:18:42,830 This is it right here. 327 00:18:44,590 --> 00:18:49,470 But a few special people are giving grace to the measure of Christ's 328 00:18:49,470 --> 00:18:49,790 gift. 329 00:18:51,630 --> 00:18:56,590 A few extraordinary preachers get an extraordinary amount of grace. 330 00:18:58,670 --> 00:18:59,950 What's that second word? 331 00:19:02,350 --> 00:19:06,280 But do you think he's lying? 332 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,120 Think he's like, it's a good idea. 333 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,080 I'm gonna say something that's gonna sell books. 334 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:17,960 I'm gonna get this letter published. 335 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:20,680 I'm gonna make people feel good. 336 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,600 No, I know he believed it because he lived for it and he ultimately 337 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:27,400 died for it. 338 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,760 He truly believed that every single person has a flickering flame 339 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:33,880 like a pilot light. 340 00:19:35,580 --> 00:19:41,460 He just wanted to fan that and ignite it, not for his sake, but 341 00:19:41,460 --> 00:19:44,220 for the sake of God's kingdom and the restoration of the world. 342 00:19:45,340 --> 00:19:50,060 Every single person in here, all of you, that's your destiny. 343 00:19:54,380 --> 00:19:56,220 Sorry, I just thought of Forrest Gump again. 344 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:58,140 What's my destiny, Mama? 345 00:19:59,180 --> 00:19:59,980 I don't know. 346 00:20:00,550 --> 00:20:01,630 But I know that. 347 00:20:01,630 --> 00:20:01,950 That. 348 00:20:01,950 --> 00:20:02,790 That it's. 349 00:20:02,790 --> 00:20:03,990 It's to be ignited. 350 00:20:06,950 --> 00:20:09,710 We're gonna have to skip these because I need a whole sermon on 351 00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:12,230 chat on verses 8, 9, and 10. 352 00:20:13,990 --> 00:20:15,150 Cosmic stuff. 353 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:17,510 Go read it in your own time if you want to talk about it. 354 00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:24,030 Basically, Paul's like, hey, Jesus is really awesome and he's 355 00:20:24,030 --> 00:20:27,390 gone everywhere to make a place for us and give his gifts to 356 00:20:27,390 --> 00:20:27,670 us. 357 00:20:28,230 --> 00:20:29,110 Cosmic stuff. 358 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:30,870 We're gonna get here. 359 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:32,470 That's where we're ending. 360 00:20:34,070 --> 00:20:37,590 It's going to be practical and I hope energizing at the end. 361 00:20:37,830 --> 00:20:40,870 Okay, we're almost already there. 362 00:20:41,430 --> 00:20:43,910 I am moving at warp speed today. 363 00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:45,590 This is fabulous. 364 00:20:47,270 --> 00:20:51,070 So that all this stuff I want to point to the so that. 365 00:20:51,070 --> 00:20:51,670 Look at this. 366 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:54,470 He's saying like, hey, I'm calling you. 367 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,480 All this stuff in verse one through six. 368 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:01,720 I'm begging you to step into your calling and live in it with 369 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:06,360 these kind of spiritual characteristics in unity that the 370 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:11,120 Holy Spirit can provide like nothing else because we are all one 371 00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:11,920 in this thing. 372 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,280 He's calling them to this and he's saying, hey, each of you has 373 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,080 something, wake up to it. 374 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:22,170 You're one of these things. 375 00:21:22,730 --> 00:21:26,450 Apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, or shepherd and teacher. 376 00:21:26,450 --> 00:21:28,170 I'm going to teach you something we talked about before. 377 00:21:28,490 --> 00:21:29,210 A pest. 378 00:21:30,170 --> 00:21:34,130 Everyone say a pest today or this week at work. 379 00:21:34,130 --> 00:21:35,770 You'd be like, hey, can I tell you about a pest? 380 00:21:36,570 --> 00:21:38,330 They'll think you're weird and they'll be excited. 381 00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:46,430 Here's the so that all this so that to equip the saints for. 382 00:21:46,580 --> 00:21:49,140 For the work of ministry Are only a few people saints. 383 00:21:50,420 --> 00:21:51,540 Not in this letter. 384 00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:53,140 Guess what? 385 00:21:53,140 --> 00:21:54,820 Sorry, I have to tell you something. 386 00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:57,700 You might feel attacked in a minute. 387 00:21:58,420 --> 00:22:03,100 Every single one of last, every single in the room is just 388 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,860 a boring, ordinary, good old fashioned sinner. 389 00:22:09,140 --> 00:22:11,140 Some of you are triggered right now because maybe you heard 390 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:12,180 that language in the church. 391 00:22:13,180 --> 00:22:15,580 All I mean by that, it's nothing shocking. 392 00:22:17,340 --> 00:22:23,100 We're pretty good at selfishness, ego, false self. 393 00:22:24,140 --> 00:22:25,340 Am I attacking you here? 394 00:22:27,660 --> 00:22:32,220 Did anybody have a perfectly 100% no sin day yesterday? 395 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:33,740 Everybody had. 396 00:22:34,620 --> 00:22:36,220 We were at the baseball field together. 397 00:22:36,460 --> 00:22:37,660 He can bear witness. 398 00:22:38,820 --> 00:22:39,860 It wasn't good for me. 399 00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:42,660 It was a bad day. 400 00:22:43,460 --> 00:22:46,300 We were up nine to 11 going in the fourth inning and we gave up 401 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:47,940 10 runs in the last inning and lost. 402 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:50,180 How did I do? 403 00:22:50,660 --> 00:22:59,220 Not well, okay, I don't think anybody was 100% yesterday. 404 00:22:59,860 --> 00:23:01,460 And yet this is the beauty. 405 00:23:04,670 --> 00:23:09,390 Do you think that stops Jesus whatsoever from pouring out his extravagant 406 00:23:09,390 --> 00:23:10,510 treasures for you? 407 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:16,030 Was he like, all right, the human goodness meter has crossed 408 00:23:16,030 --> 00:23:16,910 over 50%. 409 00:23:16,910 --> 00:23:19,949 I will now go down and give them my treasures. 410 00:23:22,190 --> 00:23:23,390 No, Paul says it. 411 00:23:23,630 --> 00:23:25,030 This thing is still true. 412 00:23:25,030 --> 00:23:29,870 Don't let the bad church and bad Christianity, which hijacked 413 00:23:29,870 --> 00:23:30,870 the beauties of Jesus. 414 00:23:30,870 --> 00:23:34,580 Don't let them steal this beautiful one while we were yet sinners. 415 00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:45,700 Jesus said, God, I love them, God, they're my people, and I want 416 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:46,660 to go be with them. 417 00:23:48,020 --> 00:23:51,340 And I want to go pour out my blood to defeat the forces of death, 418 00:23:51,340 --> 00:23:55,700 evil and darkness, to make a new way while we were yet sinners. 419 00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,940 Don't let the bad church that hijack Christianity steal that beautiful 420 00:23:58,940 --> 00:23:59,700 truth from you. 421 00:23:59,970 --> 00:24:00,770 It's still true. 422 00:24:03,250 --> 00:24:08,250 He did all this to equip the saints, you sinners and saints, to 423 00:24:08,250 --> 00:24:11,170 build you up for the work of ministry. 424 00:24:11,170 --> 00:24:15,170 Everybody's in ministry tomorrow. 425 00:24:15,809 --> 00:24:26,090 Melissa will be in ministry at Custer Baker, Ashley at Arrow Earth, 426 00:24:26,090 --> 00:24:32,140 or Heather at Franklin, Amanda at the Johnson County Housing Coalition, 427 00:24:32,140 --> 00:24:35,540 the director of residential programming, davita over at juvenile 428 00:24:35,540 --> 00:24:36,060 probation. 429 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:40,780 Sorry, I'll keep. 430 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:41,740 I could keep going. 431 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:42,660 All of you. 432 00:24:42,660 --> 00:24:46,100 You're going to be in ministry somewhere, and he's saying these 433 00:24:46,100 --> 00:24:47,420 things to you to build you up. 434 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,780 He wants to build you up in your ministry, wherever you live, 435 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:57,270 work, learn and play until all of us come to the unity of faith 436 00:24:57,270 --> 00:24:58,790 in the knowledge of the Son of God. 437 00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:59,750 To maturity. 438 00:25:00,710 --> 00:25:01,310 Guess what? 439 00:25:01,310 --> 00:25:02,310 That word is right there. 440 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:03,110 To maturity. 441 00:25:03,830 --> 00:25:06,070 It's the word that inspired this series. 442 00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:09,910 Let's learn some Greek today. 443 00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:10,950 What do you say? 444 00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:12,470 Woo. 445 00:25:13,910 --> 00:25:14,630 It's a word. 446 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:15,830 The word is teleos. 447 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:20,710 It's the word that says, like you're moving on to completion. 448 00:25:21,090 --> 00:25:22,770 You ain't there yet, but you're going to be. 449 00:25:24,050 --> 00:25:28,210 That's the goal of discipleship, is moving on to completion, 450 00:25:28,210 --> 00:25:29,170 to restoration. 451 00:25:31,090 --> 00:25:34,930 Jesus comes to help you move back to restoration and completion 452 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:37,570 to the measure of the full stature of Christ. 453 00:25:38,210 --> 00:25:44,410 In other words, Jeremy, he wants you to be all of completely, 454 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:45,090 Jeremy. 455 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:48,540 The fullness of you and also the fullness of Christ. 456 00:25:49,260 --> 00:25:52,620 So you grow up into you, you, but also into Jesus. 457 00:25:56,380 --> 00:25:59,580 We must no longer be children, tossed to and fro and blown about 458 00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:02,700 by every wind of doctrine, by people's trickery, by their craftiness 459 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,380 and deceitful scheming. 460 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:09,100 Lots of big words there from Paul, but speaking the truth in love. 461 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:12,140 We must grow up in every way into Him. 462 00:26:12,140 --> 00:26:13,500 Who is the head into Christ? 463 00:26:13,740 --> 00:26:13,940 You. 464 00:26:14,010 --> 00:26:15,610 You know who's at the top of the ladder? 465 00:26:18,890 --> 00:26:20,250 No, there is no ladder. 466 00:26:22,330 --> 00:26:23,370 The head is Christ. 467 00:26:23,370 --> 00:26:24,650 But what did he do? 468 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:26,250 Philippians 2. 469 00:26:28,730 --> 00:26:33,770 Paul says, Be of the mind of Christ, who humbled himself, though 470 00:26:33,770 --> 00:26:37,370 he shared in divinity, did not consider it something to be exploited, 471 00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:42,100 but humbled himself to the point of death, even death on a cross, 472 00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,340 so that at the sound of his name, every knee will bow and tongue 473 00:26:46,340 --> 00:26:47,540 confess that he is Lord. 474 00:26:49,140 --> 00:26:53,620 Even the head of the church humbled himself to build you up. 475 00:26:55,060 --> 00:26:55,780 So Don't. 476 00:26:55,940 --> 00:26:57,380 Don't start doing a ladder. 477 00:26:58,340 --> 00:26:59,220 Do what he did. 478 00:27:02,420 --> 00:27:02,940 From whom? 479 00:27:02,940 --> 00:27:03,940 The whole body. 480 00:27:04,020 --> 00:27:07,710 There's that body again, joined and knit together by every 481 00:27:07,710 --> 00:27:09,550 ligament with which it is equipped. 482 00:27:09,630 --> 00:27:13,870 As each part is working properly, promotes the body's growth 483 00:27:14,350 --> 00:27:16,110 in building itself up. 484 00:27:16,590 --> 00:27:24,110 In love, everything is ultimately to shower this earth, 485 00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:31,190 to restore this earth in the rich love of the Lord, of which you 486 00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:35,430 are a recipient and called to share. 487 00:27:37,350 --> 00:27:38,190 All right, I'm going to stop. 488 00:27:38,190 --> 00:27:39,550 And then we get to the practical session. 489 00:27:39,550 --> 00:27:40,550 It's 1022. 490 00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:41,270 Bang. 491 00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:47,830 What's this making you think, feel, wonder. 492 00:27:55,190 --> 00:27:56,150 If you say nothing. 493 00:27:56,150 --> 00:27:57,270 I just keep talking. 494 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,840 All right, you just want me to keep talk. 495 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,560 Go ahead, Ralph. 496 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,000 There we go. 497 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,840 Thank you, Ralph. 498 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,360 Yes. 499 00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:13,600 There's the biblical spiritual perspective. 500 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,080 Even if we didn't have that, it seems to me that it's a whole 501 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,690 lot more fun and less stressful that instead of trying 502 00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:28,610 to cut the ladder out for somebody else and also be worried 503 00:28:28,610 --> 00:28:32,330 about somebody cutting the ladder out underneath you, it's a 504 00:28:32,330 --> 00:28:35,450 whole lot more fun to try and build other people up. 505 00:28:36,170 --> 00:28:37,130 Absolutely. 506 00:28:38,490 --> 00:28:39,689 I love that point. 507 00:28:40,170 --> 00:28:42,970 Ralph says, like, even if you didn't have the biblical and spiritual 508 00:28:42,970 --> 00:28:47,050 side of this, it's still better to do. 509 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:48,330 It's more fun. 510 00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:53,220 I've said to people before, I believe if you practice the teachings 511 00:28:53,220 --> 00:28:58,500 of Jesus without believing in him yet, which makes it hard, believing 512 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:01,900 in him makes it more possible to do the teachings because you need 513 00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,540 the grace and the Spirit to do so. 514 00:29:03,620 --> 00:29:07,580 But if you practice his teachings, you'd be like, man, I 515 00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:10,340 have to admit, I'm freer. 516 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:11,700 I'm more peaceful. 517 00:29:11,860 --> 00:29:12,740 I'm happier. 518 00:29:15,230 --> 00:29:16,110 What else are you thinking? 519 00:29:16,350 --> 00:29:17,390 Feeling about this. 520 00:29:18,270 --> 00:29:19,150 Go ahead, PT. 521 00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:27,190 There are days when you don't feel connected to God. 522 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:30,030 There are days when you don't feel the Spirit. 523 00:29:31,150 --> 00:29:35,470 One of the important reasons is to be a part of the body is because 524 00:29:35,550 --> 00:29:39,550 from everybody else, you know, it's still very. 525 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,680 Though your is not spark very well. 526 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,840 You need that community to be with. 527 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,880 Absolutely. 528 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Some days you don't feel it. 529 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,520 Sometimes like you. 530 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,760 You want to feel the fire, but you don't. 531 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,799 And that all the more reason why he's calling these people into 532 00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:59,000 community and into unity of the Spirit. 533 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,120 He says in Corinthians, like, sometimes there are weaker parts 534 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,640 that need the stronger parts and vice versa. 535 00:30:06,590 --> 00:30:07,310 Anybody else. 536 00:30:12,430 --> 00:30:17,470 Recently, But I feel like we've seen a situation where someone. 537 00:30:20,430 --> 00:30:21,310 Hierarchical. 538 00:30:21,390 --> 00:30:22,109 Thank you. 539 00:30:22,270 --> 00:30:26,270 Ladder was like shaking our ladder to try and make sure that 540 00:30:26,510 --> 00:30:29,630 in our lives we weren't like in any way accelerating. 541 00:30:30,190 --> 00:30:34,600 And people that, like, love us that we have unity and community 542 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,880 with that would, like, at the bottom, catch us. 543 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:43,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 544 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,200 So there's an experience of, like, where someone tried to kind 545 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,720 of maybe at the top, kind of shake you off because, like, they 546 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,840 want the top by themselves. 547 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,720 Maybe out of insecurity, ego wounding, whatever. 548 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,920 But it was the community that you had around you at the bottom 549 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,190 that lifted you up, Melissa. 550 00:31:11,390 --> 00:31:11,950 Yes. 551 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:29,720 Yeah. 552 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,320 Yeah. 553 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:50,920 We get scripted very early on in big fancy word here, meritocracy, 554 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:56,040 like, you are what you are based on what you can earn. 555 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,880 You are what you are based on your ability to secure a promotion 556 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,480 and get to the next level. 557 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:10,640 When I reflect back on the fact that in elementary school, there 558 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,360 are a group of kids, while other kids watched, who went away 559 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,080 to a gifted and talented group. 560 00:32:19,530 --> 00:32:20,530 The other kids knew. 561 00:32:20,530 --> 00:32:22,250 Those are the gifted and talented people. 562 00:32:23,930 --> 00:32:26,250 That makes, like, my soul hurt, man. 563 00:32:29,290 --> 00:32:29,650 It's. 564 00:32:29,650 --> 00:32:30,650 It's very early on. 565 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:32,250 Yeah. 566 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:32,770 What else? 567 00:32:32,770 --> 00:32:33,529 Anybody else? 568 00:32:34,090 --> 00:32:34,970 Debbie, Go ahead. 569 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:47,140 Yeah. 570 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,140 Separating your worth from your accomplishments. 571 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:49,940 That's what I'm talking about. 572 00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:54,820 Exploding the ladder, Setting the ladder on fire if it's wooden. 573 00:32:56,820 --> 00:32:58,660 And that's the whole gospel of the narrative. 574 00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:08,420 The narrative of the gospel is that you are like what you are from 575 00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:09,460 God right now. 576 00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,260 You can't increase that or diminish it. 577 00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:13,300 You can only realize it. 578 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:14,500 You can only wake up to it. 579 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:15,660 Jesus comes to wake you up. 580 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:17,740 All right, we better move along. 581 00:33:18,140 --> 00:33:19,980 You guys are causing us to get back behind. 582 00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:23,820 Yeah. 583 00:33:28,700 --> 00:33:33,020 All right, so what do you do with this? 584 00:33:34,540 --> 00:33:36,460 I had a few slip points on that. 585 00:33:36,770 --> 00:33:38,530 I'm going to skip those and just go to one. 586 00:33:38,610 --> 00:33:39,170 Okay. 587 00:33:41,890 --> 00:33:48,850 That faith is a series of yeses and no's. 588 00:33:50,050 --> 00:33:51,570 Like PT said, some days we. 589 00:33:51,570 --> 00:33:55,090 We're like, no, not doing it today. 590 00:33:57,010 --> 00:34:00,810 Yesterday, the Lord was like, ross, stop thinking about baseball 591 00:34:00,810 --> 00:34:02,370 and come and pray for a little while. 592 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:05,680 I didn't do it. 593 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,120 I have a sickness. 594 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:10,080 I do. 595 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:10,840 I'm competitive. 596 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,520 It's a problem. 597 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,680 The Lord knows it still loves me. 598 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,920 Today was the opportunity to say the next yes, to be here with 599 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,840 you, to accept the grace that God so desperately wants to give 600 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:31,139 me, to accept the gift of Jesus that is here for me always 601 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,819 and to grow in my faith. 602 00:34:34,819 --> 00:34:36,179 Like, just say the next yes. 603 00:34:37,779 --> 00:34:41,019 Which means that there's something else we probably have to 604 00:34:41,019 --> 00:34:41,859 say no to. 605 00:34:43,219 --> 00:34:47,459 Good old fashioned churchy word repent is simply saying no to 606 00:34:47,459 --> 00:34:50,019 one thing so you can turn and say yes to something else. 607 00:34:51,779 --> 00:34:53,779 How many people in the room struggle to say no? 608 00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:56,190 Come on. 609 00:34:58,190 --> 00:34:59,790 That's going to play up here in a minute. 610 00:34:59,790 --> 00:35:00,670 All right, here we go. 611 00:35:01,710 --> 00:35:02,910 Let's end with some fun. 612 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:04,310 I hope this energizes you. 613 00:35:04,310 --> 00:35:07,870 And then Emily's going to tell us the Enneagram test that we recommend, 614 00:35:08,110 --> 00:35:08,510 Right? 615 00:35:09,150 --> 00:35:09,670 Okay. 616 00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:10,430 Thanks, Emily. 617 00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:18,510 All right, each one of you is an apostle, prophet, evangelist, 618 00:35:18,510 --> 00:35:19,310 shepherd, teacher. 619 00:35:19,310 --> 00:35:22,230 You have a lead in one of those two areas, maybe a couple. 620 00:35:23,750 --> 00:35:26,830 I don't want to overplay this, but this is the original personality 621 00:35:26,830 --> 00:35:27,190 test. 622 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:29,350 So let's see what you think you are. 623 00:35:29,430 --> 00:35:30,630 Okay, you ready? 624 00:35:30,950 --> 00:35:32,150 Let's have some fun with this. 625 00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:35,350 All right, let's start with the apostle. 626 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:37,430 That font is too small. 627 00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:38,150 Who did that? 628 00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:39,830 I'll read it, though. 629 00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:43,990 So the apostle, that's a word that means the sent one. 630 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:49,900 These people tend to be mission driven people, like, almost 631 00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:51,900 obsessive about mission stuff. 632 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:56,220 They're entrepreneur types, visionary types. 633 00:35:57,660 --> 00:35:58,980 They feel sent to people. 634 00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:01,660 They get discouraged and frustrated when the organization 635 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:02,780 is off mission. 636 00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:09,060 They start new things to reach new people or quote, unquote, lost 637 00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:09,340 people. 638 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:12,180 They feel very driven to carry on the mission, to lead with the 639 00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:13,100 values of the mission. 640 00:36:13,260 --> 00:36:13,520 They. 641 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:17,110 They appreciate most, perhaps the stories where Jesus places himself 642 00:36:17,110 --> 00:36:19,190 along people who are on the outside looking in. 643 00:36:21,110 --> 00:36:25,270 So Emily makes jokes. 644 00:36:25,270 --> 00:36:28,470 Sometimes we're fun with each other. 645 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:31,270 I sometimes make fun of her because she's an enneagram one. 646 00:36:31,270 --> 00:36:33,590 And I will say, Emily, just enneagram1me. 647 00:36:34,470 --> 00:36:37,110 But she will poke fun at me because guess which one of these 648 00:36:37,110 --> 00:36:37,590 I am. 649 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:39,680 That one. 650 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,120 Yeah. 651 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:43,920 What's that? 652 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:45,680 Yeah, I know. 653 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:46,640 I'm mixing tests. 654 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,000 Sorry. 655 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:47,320 Sorry. 656 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,000 Yeah, sorry. 657 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:48,800 I. I'm. 658 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,240 Follow the structure. 659 00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:53,040 See, she just enneagram won me. 660 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,800 See, it's good. 661 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,560 That's good, Emily. 662 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,560 Good job, prophet. 663 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,280 Lots of people these days think of themselves as prophets. 664 00:37:06,730 --> 00:37:08,010 They get on the Facebooks. 665 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:11,930 That don't make you a prophet. 666 00:37:16,570 --> 00:37:17,450 A lot of people. 667 00:37:18,090 --> 00:37:22,010 Prophets have one thing that most of the prophets in our time 668 00:37:22,010 --> 00:37:22,570 lack. 669 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:23,770 Humility. 670 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:31,820 Their witness comes from a humble posture towards God and a 671 00:37:31,820 --> 00:37:34,180 desire for a heart to be aligned with God. 672 00:37:36,020 --> 00:37:37,220 Apostles are out. 673 00:37:37,460 --> 00:37:42,780 Prophets are up people who feel compelled to call out wrongs, 674 00:37:42,780 --> 00:37:44,540 especially wrongs that hurt neighbors. 675 00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:48,700 They get bothered, even angry, when the church or people aren't 676 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,420 taking care of the downtrodden. 677 00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:53,860 They say and do concrete things to advocate for justice. 678 00:37:53,860 --> 00:37:56,980 They humbly pursue the heart of the matter, especially God's heart, 679 00:37:57,060 --> 00:37:58,980 and call people back to God's heart. 680 00:37:59,350 --> 00:38:02,310 They appreciate perhaps most the stories where Jesus confronts 681 00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:05,590 and corrupt leaders or crooked systems that harm people. 682 00:38:09,350 --> 00:38:12,950 So, like, they're justice driven investigative journalists, 683 00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:13,910 protesters. 684 00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:16,350 It doesn't mean that they're out there with a sign necessarily. 685 00:38:16,350 --> 00:38:18,910 Their protest Might be they just go have a conversation with 686 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:19,350 their boss. 687 00:38:19,350 --> 00:38:19,910 That's hard. 688 00:38:22,870 --> 00:38:24,070 Okay, next. 689 00:38:24,070 --> 00:38:25,110 Are you good so far? 690 00:38:26,030 --> 00:38:26,750 Everybody with me? 691 00:38:26,750 --> 00:38:29,710 Still, isn't the sun through the stained glass awesome? 692 00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:32,190 The evangelist. 693 00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:34,590 Joanna's an evangelist. 694 00:38:36,590 --> 00:38:39,710 These are gatherers, sharers, inviters, relators. 695 00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:46,510 Joanna will host a 40th birthday party for, like, 50th birthday. 696 00:38:46,590 --> 00:38:48,550 If you want a party host, you don't have to ask her. 697 00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:49,790 She's already thinking of it. 698 00:38:50,510 --> 00:38:51,630 Because she's planning it. 699 00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:54,180 She's planning it while you're not even thinking about it. 700 00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:56,580 They're people, Right, Joanna? 701 00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:57,540 Yes. 702 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:00,980 People who build connections easily and invite people authentically. 703 00:39:01,540 --> 00:39:04,380 They have an earnest desire to bring good experience and news to 704 00:39:04,380 --> 00:39:04,620 people. 705 00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:06,820 They don't treat people as means to an end. 706 00:39:06,820 --> 00:39:09,820 Again, there's a lot of people who thought of themselves as evangelists 707 00:39:09,820 --> 00:39:13,140 on the street corner saying, repent, or you're going to hell when 708 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:13,780 you die today. 709 00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:16,580 Those aren't evangelists. 710 00:39:16,580 --> 00:39:17,540 Those are idiots. 711 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,160 Who are desperately loved by God. 712 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,640 Okay, that's not evangelism. 713 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:31,520 That there's. 714 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,560 That has nothing to do with evangelism. 715 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:42,360 Evangelism starts with relationship, connection and a love 716 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000 for the good things of God and the good news of Jesus. 717 00:39:47,710 --> 00:39:51,070 So they don't treat people as means to an end, but they genuinely, 718 00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:52,430 deeply love people. 719 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:55,310 And they love Jesus, man. 720 00:39:55,470 --> 00:39:59,950 They love God in the story of Jesus, they cherish it deeply. 721 00:40:00,590 --> 00:40:02,670 They hold it sacredly as a gift. 722 00:40:02,830 --> 00:40:05,750 They appreciate perhaps most the story where Jesus shares good 723 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:07,950 news with people that really needed to hear it. 724 00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:11,150 Are we still good? 725 00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:11,750 Are you with me? 726 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:12,590 It's 10:34. 727 00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:13,390 We're almost done. 728 00:40:13,390 --> 00:40:14,030 Okay. 729 00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:15,530 The shepherds. 730 00:40:15,530 --> 00:40:16,370 I know a shepherd. 731 00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:17,650 I know a few shepherds in the room. 732 00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:20,410 These are caregivers, healers, listeners, comforters. 733 00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:24,330 They're people who carry compassion in their bones and extend 734 00:40:24,330 --> 00:40:24,970 it to others. 735 00:40:26,570 --> 00:40:29,690 They naturally come alongside others to bring them comfort. 736 00:40:29,850 --> 00:40:32,970 They don't see people's ailments as inconvenience. 737 00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:38,970 They love God and God's people with an empathetic heart. 738 00:40:38,970 --> 00:40:42,370 They appreciate most, perhaps, the stories where Jesus comforts 739 00:40:42,370 --> 00:40:43,130 and heals. 740 00:40:45,630 --> 00:40:46,670 I've told what I am. 741 00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:47,790 I'll tell you what I'm not. 742 00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:49,790 I am not naturally that one. 743 00:40:52,030 --> 00:40:54,670 I do it out of skill and out of mission. 744 00:40:57,550 --> 00:40:59,430 When I took the strengthsfinders test. 745 00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:00,910 Sorry, another mix here. 746 00:41:01,950 --> 00:41:03,390 You might be shocked to know this. 747 00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:04,830 Don't hold it against me, all right? 748 00:41:06,910 --> 00:41:08,910 Empathy was, like, at the bottom. 749 00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:11,380 And some of you are like, what? 750 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:13,140 I met you, Ross. 751 00:41:13,140 --> 00:41:14,420 You don't seem to be a jerk. 752 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:20,900 I mean, maybe you Do. 753 00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:21,780 I don't know. 754 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:29,780 I do it because I know it's the right thing to do and I believe 755 00:41:29,780 --> 00:41:30,340 in it. 756 00:41:30,340 --> 00:41:32,580 But am I naturally gifted at it? 757 00:41:35,310 --> 00:41:35,950 Not so much. 758 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:39,390 The teachers. 759 00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:42,510 My top two are apostle and teacher. 760 00:41:42,750 --> 00:41:46,510 Every time I've taken it, there's an assessment you can take. 761 00:41:47,630 --> 00:41:49,950 These are the sages, the communicators. 762 00:41:50,830 --> 00:41:52,270 They're the students, too. 763 00:41:54,030 --> 00:41:56,830 They're people who cherish the mysteries of God and want to share 764 00:41:56,830 --> 00:41:57,150 them. 765 00:41:57,870 --> 00:42:01,230 They enjoy searching the scriptures and world for God's deep 766 00:42:01,230 --> 00:42:01,630 wisdom. 767 00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:04,670 They love lighting people's path with knowledge of God. 768 00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:07,830 They appreciate most the teachings of Jesus. 769 00:42:12,150 --> 00:42:12,710 All right. 770 00:42:15,990 --> 00:42:21,390 Apostle, prophet, evangelist, shepherd. 771 00:42:21,390 --> 00:42:22,070 Teacher. 772 00:42:23,270 --> 00:42:24,310 Here's your homework. 773 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:32,200 I just got a bad look like you can't give people homework at home 774 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:32,800 practices. 775 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,040 Yep, yep. 776 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:35,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 777 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:37,440 I will. 778 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,880 I will send these out to you. 779 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280 Or you can take pictures like davita did. 780 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,960 Smart. 781 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:50,840 Ask three to five people who know you well this week which one 782 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:51,680 they think you are. 783 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,720 You can ask me. 784 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280 I don't care If I get 60 texts this week. 785 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:00,240 Now, some people know it might take a while before I get back. 786 00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:05,030 Sometimes you might three days later be like, ross, hi. 787 00:43:05,910 --> 00:43:07,070 I'm not good at texts. 788 00:43:07,070 --> 00:43:07,990 I get a lot of them. 789 00:43:08,390 --> 00:43:08,950 So keep. 790 00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:10,230 Please do keep that in mind. 791 00:43:13,590 --> 00:43:13,990 See. 792 00:43:16,230 --> 00:43:16,870 My family. 793 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:18,950 Hey, if you think you got it bad, ask my family. 794 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:20,630 It's not good. 795 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:21,670 Not good. 796 00:43:22,150 --> 00:43:22,710 Sorry. 797 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:25,710 I am not that one. 798 00:43:25,710 --> 00:43:26,230 Okay. 799 00:43:28,570 --> 00:43:30,170 Ask three to five people in your life. 800 00:43:30,570 --> 00:43:31,930 Which one do you think I am? 801 00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:35,210 I will put them out. 802 00:43:35,210 --> 00:43:39,050 How about we put them on the church center homepage and we'll 803 00:43:39,050 --> 00:43:40,170 put them out on social media? 804 00:43:41,290 --> 00:43:41,930 Okay. 805 00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:43,530 If you need. 806 00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:46,250 If you're like, I don't do either of those things, then just 807 00:43:46,330 --> 00:43:47,290 call me or something. 808 00:43:48,650 --> 00:43:49,530 No, don't do that. 809 00:43:49,530 --> 00:43:50,730 That'll be too many calls. 810 00:43:52,420 --> 00:43:53,260 Figure something out. 811 00:43:53,260 --> 00:43:53,900 Email me. 812 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:54,620 Email me. 813 00:43:54,620 --> 00:43:56,180 Yeah, there you go. 814 00:43:56,980 --> 00:43:58,180 That's number one, homework. 815 00:43:58,180 --> 00:43:59,300 Number two, homework. 816 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:02,020 What is the Enneagram that we recommend, Emily? 817 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:04,660 Well, there's a free one at Truity. 818 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:12,940 There's a site called truity.com. 819 00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:16,500 So I think it's T, R, U, I, T, Y, something like that. 820 00:44:16,660 --> 00:44:19,300 They have actually a bunch of different assessments, but they're 821 00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:19,500 all. 822 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:20,620 You can do them all free. 823 00:44:20,620 --> 00:44:23,280 And they'll give you, like, an initial, just base assessment. 824 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,720 So, like, there's the Enneagram, there's a disc profile. 825 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,440 There's. 826 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,040 There's a couple others on there. 827 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,120 But the Enneagram is. 828 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,760 It's fun. 829 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,640 And then there's something called the Enneagram Institute that 830 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,760 actually will give a little more Information, So you can do it 831 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,240 that way, too. 832 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:41,720 So you take the test over here where it's free, and you can find 833 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:43,720 more information over here where it's also free. 834 00:44:43,720 --> 00:44:44,560 I like free. 835 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:45,680 So there you go. 836 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:48,080 Thank you, Emily. 837 00:44:51,530 --> 00:44:51,690 Sure. 838 00:44:51,690 --> 00:44:53,370 We'll put that on the socials, too. 839 00:44:54,490 --> 00:44:55,690 Emily and I are. 840 00:44:55,690 --> 00:44:57,650 I'm going to give Emily and I some props for a minute. 841 00:44:57,650 --> 00:44:58,890 So you're just going to have to endure this. 842 00:44:59,290 --> 00:45:00,890 Emily and I work really well together. 843 00:45:01,930 --> 00:45:05,850 Our personalities are not the same. 844 00:45:08,090 --> 00:45:09,690 Emily's a one on the Enneagram. 845 00:45:09,690 --> 00:45:10,250 I'm a three. 846 00:45:11,050 --> 00:45:12,050 I'm an apostle. 847 00:45:12,050 --> 00:45:12,970 She's a teacher. 848 00:45:14,260 --> 00:45:17,460 But we work extremely well together. 849 00:45:18,500 --> 00:45:19,620 Extremely well. 850 00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:22,820 Because we pursue unity all the time. 851 00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:27,260 If we have, like, a conversation, we need to talk, we 852 00:45:27,260 --> 00:45:28,180 keep coming back to unity. 853 00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:29,140 That's church, too. 854 00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:30,780 That's church. 855 00:45:30,780 --> 00:45:31,540 We come back. 856 00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:33,980 If someone hurts your feelings, you say, hey, that hurt 857 00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:34,500 my feelings. 858 00:45:35,060 --> 00:45:37,740 If you saw it differently, it's probably because you had a personality 859 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:38,180 clash. 860 00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:39,060 Right. 861 00:45:40,030 --> 00:45:41,910 Maybe you saw it from the lens of an apostle. 862 00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:43,550 They saw it from the lens of a shepherd. 863 00:45:43,950 --> 00:45:44,350 Right. 864 00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:46,310 Or an Enneagram one. 865 00:45:46,310 --> 00:45:47,310 Or an Enneagram three. 866 00:45:47,390 --> 00:45:48,590 So that's your homework. 867 00:45:48,670 --> 00:45:51,390 Ask three to five people which one they think you are. 868 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:53,310 You can say yourself, too. 869 00:45:54,270 --> 00:45:56,350 Take the Enneagram, send them to us. 870 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:59,830 We're going to put it into your church center profile so we 871 00:45:59,830 --> 00:46:01,390 can fit you into a nice little box. 872 00:46:03,630 --> 00:46:05,950 No, so that, like, when we have things to do. 873 00:46:06,850 --> 00:46:08,610 Well, no, like, oh, Ralph Hill. 874 00:46:08,610 --> 00:46:11,170 That's not a good ask of Ralph, because Ralph is. 875 00:46:11,170 --> 00:46:13,650 This Ralph would be better perhaps, at this. 876 00:46:15,330 --> 00:46:16,530 So does that make sense? 877 00:46:17,170 --> 00:46:18,570 All right, let's. 878 00:46:18,570 --> 00:46:19,450 Let's have some fun. 879 00:46:19,450 --> 00:46:22,250 How many people in the room would say, like, I think I might. 880 00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:24,370 My leading one might be apostle. 881 00:46:29,090 --> 00:46:30,450 We have, like, three of those. 882 00:46:30,450 --> 00:46:33,730 I'm going to tell you, that's a latent gift in the church. 883 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,600 It's one that we've not fanned the flame of. 884 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,480 Well, so we had like two or three of those. 885 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,560 Mission driven. 886 00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:44,240 They get up. 887 00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,360 They're like, get nervous when we're not on mission. 888 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,040 How many prophets in the room? 889 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,880 Don't be shy. 890 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:50,319 We're. 891 00:46:50,319 --> 00:46:51,080 Everybody's something. 892 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,040 They're all beautiful. 893 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,480 How many prophets in the room? 894 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,800 Yeah, come on, raise your hand. 895 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,600 Heather, good Lord. 896 00:47:03,210 --> 00:47:05,450 Didn't you literally teach journalism somewhere? 897 00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:08,810 Yeah, come on. 898 00:47:12,730 --> 00:47:14,490 How many evangelists in the room? 899 00:47:15,050 --> 00:47:15,690 Raise your hand? 900 00:47:15,690 --> 00:47:16,410 Joanna. 901 00:47:20,490 --> 00:47:21,210 Yeah, dude. 902 00:47:21,450 --> 00:47:22,890 Jason, you are an evangelist. 903 00:47:22,890 --> 00:47:24,170 Dude, straight up. 904 00:47:24,810 --> 00:47:26,010 You are an evangelist. 905 00:47:28,180 --> 00:47:29,460 How many shepherds in the room? 906 00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:31,460 See this? 907 00:47:31,460 --> 00:47:31,820 Watch. 908 00:47:31,820 --> 00:47:32,740 Look around the room. 909 00:47:33,860 --> 00:47:40,260 The church has fanned the flame of that one, not the apostle 910 00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:40,980 one so much. 911 00:47:41,620 --> 00:47:44,580 Alan Hirsch says the church needs to wait for it. 912 00:47:44,660 --> 00:47:46,740 I need to make sure I says correctly. 913 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:47,940 Ape out. 914 00:47:49,540 --> 00:47:53,140 We need to fan the flame more of apostle, prophet, evangelist. 915 00:47:54,460 --> 00:47:57,820 What's the most prominent gift in United Methodist Church that gets 916 00:47:57,900 --> 00:47:59,740 we raise up shepherds and teachers. 917 00:48:01,580 --> 00:48:04,380 We need to fan the flame of the people who are not those things. 918 00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:06,060 All right, how many people? 919 00:48:06,620 --> 00:48:07,300 Uh huh. 920 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:07,900 Yep. 921 00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:09,420 How many people are teachers? 922 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:15,540 Some of you. 923 00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:18,820 I feel like I know what you are, but all right, send them to 924 00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:21,850 us this week and we'll have some fun with this. 925 00:48:22,570 --> 00:48:24,490 The good news is everyone has a place. 926 00:48:26,170 --> 00:48:26,970 Let's pray. 927 00:48:28,890 --> 00:48:30,690 Lord, thank you that that's true. 928 00:48:30,690 --> 00:48:36,010 Help us to experience that truth and to grow in it. 929 00:48:37,850 --> 00:48:40,690 Guide us so that we find our place with you and that we take our 930 00:48:40,690 --> 00:48:44,330 place in your inheritance and that we share the riches that you 931 00:48:44,330 --> 00:48:46,420 so desperately want to give to the world with others. 932 00:48:47,540 --> 00:48:48,580 In Jesus name. 933 00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:49,300 Amen. 934 00:48:51,940 --> 00:48:56,380 Thank you for participating in the conversation happening at Heaven 935 00:48:56,380 --> 00:48:57,460 Earth Church. 936 00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:03,300 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 937 00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:08,900 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 309 East Main in Whiteland, 938 00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:13,000 Indiana or online at YouTube Live Live. 939 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:18,200 That's@YouTube.com heavenerth church. 940 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:25,480 The audio podcast is always available at Apple Podcast and on 941 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,280 Spotify. 942 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:31,080 You can help others find out about the Heaven Earth Church podcast 943 00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,160 by going to Apple Podcast and or Spotify and leaving a five star 944 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,800 rating and your review. 945 00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:42,610 Instructions on how to do just that and links are in the show notes. 946 00:49:43,330 --> 00:49:48,930 You can always find out more by going to the church website heavenearthchurch.org 947 00:49:49,570 --> 00:49:49,850 we. 948 00:49:49,850 --> 00:49:52,050 Want to thank you for spending time with us today. 949 00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:55,570 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church 950 00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:59,290 and you may think out there that your story is over, but in fact 951 00:49:59,290 --> 00:50:02,370 your faith story may just be beginning. 952 00:50:02,690 --> 00:50:05,370 If you want more information about our church or you're interested 953 00:50:05,370 --> 00:50:09,530 in the next step, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org otherwise 954 00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:12,690 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 955 00:50:12,690 --> 00:50:13,610 Church Podcast.