1 00:00:00,630 --> 00:00:05,040 You're listening to gift biz on rapt episode 151. 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,460 So how do you, 3 00:00:07,460 --> 00:00:11,630 when you have a purpose fulfill what you're supposed to do 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,050 Attention gifters bakers, 5 00:00:15,050 --> 00:00:18,530 crafters, and makers pursuing your dream can be fun. 6 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:22,040 Whether you have an established business or looking to start one. 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,710 Now you are in the right place. 8 00:00:24,890 --> 00:00:27,350 This is give to biz unwrapped, 9 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:31,070 helping you turn your skill into a flourishing business. 10 00:00:31,430 --> 00:00:32,750 Join us for an episode, 11 00:00:32,750 --> 00:00:34,970 packed full of invaluable guidance, 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,940 resources, and the support you need to grow. 13 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:41,840 Your gift biz here is your host gift biz gal, 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,520 Sue Mon height in honor of him March being women's history 15 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,920 month. I want to take you back in time. 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,620 We will be talking with Ladybird Johnson, 17 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:56,210 the wife of the 36th president of the United state Lyndon 18 00:00:56,300 --> 00:01:02,150 B Johnson Ladybird Johnson's life spans the 20th century from 1912 19 00:01:02,210 --> 00:01:03,620 to 2007. 20 00:01:04,070 --> 00:01:07,310 This is a century in which the role of women changed 21 00:01:07,340 --> 00:01:12,440 dramatically. Ladybird herself said that her life was apart for which 22 00:01:12,470 --> 00:01:13,790 I never rehearsed. 23 00:01:14,390 --> 00:01:18,470 So as not to interrupt the continuity of this fabulous interview, 24 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:21,980 I'm just going to insert here a message from our sponsor. 25 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:25,040 This podcast is made possible. 26 00:01:25,070 --> 00:01:27,560 Thanks to the support of the ribbon print company. 27 00:01:27,710 --> 00:01:31,220 Create custom ribbons right in your store or craft studio in 28 00:01:31,220 --> 00:01:34,250 seconds. Visit the ribbon print company.com 29 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:35,330 for more information, 30 00:01:36,380 --> 00:01:39,650 Please join me in welcoming Ladybird Johnson to be with us 31 00:01:39,650 --> 00:01:40,310 here today. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,170 Well, thank you so much, 33 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:44,600 Sue. I'm so pleased to be with you today. 34 00:01:45,380 --> 00:01:48,860 I am so honored that you've taken some time to share 35 00:01:48,860 --> 00:01:49,760 with us today, 36 00:01:50,030 --> 00:01:54,140 and I want to start out our talk as I always 37 00:01:54,140 --> 00:01:58,100 do. And that is by having you share what a candle 38 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:01,010 would look like that really resonates with you. 39 00:02:01,130 --> 00:02:03,620 And what I mean by that is if you were to 40 00:02:03,620 --> 00:02:06,800 pick a special color that would be on your candle and 41 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,210 then a saying, 42 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,990 or a motto or something that always drives you forward, 43 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,990 what would this candle look like by color? 44 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:18,380 And word Candle would be yellow, 45 00:02:18,860 --> 00:02:23,120 like Texas yellow star and Lord cups, 46 00:02:23,420 --> 00:02:24,770 and four nerves. 47 00:02:25,550 --> 00:02:29,390 The flowers are planted by the hundreds in the Hill country 48 00:02:29,390 --> 00:02:29,990 of Texas. 49 00:02:30,380 --> 00:02:34,010 And then there was local yellow flowers that are planted along 50 00:02:34,010 --> 00:02:36,230 the highways across the country. 51 00:02:36,530 --> 00:02:39,320 When we did a beautiful America program. 52 00:02:40,130 --> 00:02:42,950 I love that because my favorite color is yellow too. 53 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:47,750 What would be the quote or a motto or something that 54 00:02:47,750 --> 00:02:50,390 you've used in your life that you would put on that 55 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:51,260 yellow candle? 56 00:02:52,130 --> 00:02:56,750 I think it would be sometimes the greatest courage in the 57 00:02:56,750 --> 00:03:01,090 room is to get up and get dressed and go to 58 00:03:01,090 --> 00:03:07,930 work. Why do you say Because we women have jobs that 59 00:03:07,930 --> 00:03:14,260 a day of the moment of taking care and sometimes many 60 00:03:14,260 --> 00:03:20,710 times you have to put aside any tiredness and sadness and 61 00:03:20,710 --> 00:03:22,270 you have to just get up, 62 00:03:22,540 --> 00:03:24,820 get dressed and go to work. 63 00:03:24,850 --> 00:03:26,380 That's how we take care of. 64 00:03:26,970 --> 00:03:28,230 So don't even second. 65 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:28,650 Guess it, 66 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,440 just get moving and do your intention, 67 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:32,640 what you're supposed to be doing. 68 00:03:33,090 --> 00:03:34,920 Exactly. You know, 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,590 I wouldn't have thought of that from a woman from your 70 00:03:37,590 --> 00:03:41,190 day, but I think that whole statement resonates for us today 71 00:03:41,190 --> 00:03:41,760 as well. 72 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:43,380 Well, you see, 73 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:45,390 when I started out, 74 00:03:45,630 --> 00:03:48,750 I needed to develop my own purpose. 75 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:49,980 I had no purpose, 76 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,290 but we'll talk more about that. 77 00:03:52,290 --> 00:03:53,220 I'm sure. 78 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,380 Yes, we will for sure. 79 00:03:55,410 --> 00:03:58,050 But first I want to take it from the beginning and 80 00:03:58,050 --> 00:03:59,430 I'm really curious. 81 00:03:59,610 --> 00:04:01,800 How did you get the name Ladybird? 82 00:04:02,340 --> 00:04:07,320 Well, I was born December 22nd, 83 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,110 1912 in the only brick house for miles around. 84 00:04:13,110 --> 00:04:15,450 And when I was born, 85 00:04:15,630 --> 00:04:16,590 my mammy, 86 00:04:16,590 --> 00:04:19,080 Alice turtle was the first to wash me. 87 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,860 She looked into my dark eyes and she says, 88 00:04:22,860 --> 00:04:24,690 why she's is pretty decent lady bird. 89 00:04:25,110 --> 00:04:27,930 And that name stuck with me ever since. 90 00:04:28,530 --> 00:04:30,390 Aw, but wait a minute. 91 00:04:30,420 --> 00:04:31,950 I have to ask you a question. 92 00:04:32,130 --> 00:04:35,910 Did I just hear you say mammy kind of like in 93 00:04:35,910 --> 00:04:36,780 gone with the wind? 94 00:04:37,470 --> 00:04:38,250 Oh yes. 95 00:04:38,280 --> 00:04:42,420 The world was there and much like post civil war days 96 00:04:42,780 --> 00:04:45,960 in its gentility in its hi, 97 00:04:46,620 --> 00:04:52,170 my father Thomas Jefferson Taylor had swept my mother meaningly Taylor, 98 00:04:52,170 --> 00:04:55,710 white of a fine family and Billingsley Alabama, 99 00:04:55,710 --> 00:05:02,550 instead of her in Karnack Texas only brick house moms around, 100 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,600 he had a store that said dealer and everything. 101 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:10,860 And he was in that part of the world in built 102 00:05:10,860 --> 00:05:11,670 and everything, 103 00:05:11,670 --> 00:05:12,960 including politics. 104 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:16,560 So let's get to the role that you played because this 105 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:17,610 is so interesting. 106 00:05:17,610 --> 00:05:19,350 And I'm sure we're going to have a lot of depth 107 00:05:19,350 --> 00:05:20,250 to this here. 108 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:23,700 Did you have any role models to prepare you for being 109 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:25,380 the vice president's wife? 110 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:26,850 And then the first lady? 111 00:05:27,930 --> 00:05:28,860 Not at all. 112 00:05:29,310 --> 00:05:34,260 My mother was a tall lady of refinement. 113 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:35,640 She walked quite a lot, 114 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,820 launch Panama hats with brands. 115 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:43,740 She went to Chicago each year to hear the opera. 116 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:46,290 She sometimes went to bed or Creek, 117 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,270 Michigan for cure. 118 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:51,570 And then when I was six years old, 119 00:05:52,260 --> 00:05:54,030 she tripped over a small father, 120 00:05:54,030 --> 00:05:55,320 dog and failed battle, 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,270 long flight of stairs. 122 00:05:57,740 --> 00:06:02,630 She was pregnant and miscarried food poisoning in and before I 123 00:06:02,630 --> 00:06:03,080 knew it, 124 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,100 she was gone, 125 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:05,570 Oh my, 126 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:07,540 so it's six years old. 127 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:09,080 Then I was gone. 128 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,120 My older brothers, 129 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:14,210 they are living in the eight years older than I, 130 00:06:14,230 --> 00:06:15,860 and they were away at school. 131 00:06:16,250 --> 00:06:18,950 So my father sent me to my mother's family, 132 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,070 to my aunt and people to that. 133 00:06:22,130 --> 00:06:24,710 And if it was the most over worldly woman that I 134 00:06:24,710 --> 00:06:25,700 had ever known, 135 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:27,200 she painted, 136 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:28,970 she played the piano. 137 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,990 She taught me all about the wild flowers and we would 138 00:06:32,990 --> 00:06:37,700 go and have imaginary visits among the Ferris who lived out 139 00:06:37,790 --> 00:06:42,440 there. But she could not teach me practical things when I 140 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:43,310 was in school. 141 00:06:43,310 --> 00:06:45,920 Like what way or how to make friends. 142 00:06:46,070 --> 00:06:48,470 And that certainly never happened. 143 00:06:49,010 --> 00:06:53,270 I don't think I ever met a woman who actually lived 144 00:06:53,300 --> 00:06:58,790 in the 20th century until I went to college in Austin, 145 00:06:58,790 --> 00:07:01,880 Texas. And I met my first real friend. 146 00:07:01,910 --> 00:07:05,680 You junior Berenger new Jean. 147 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,400 Yeah. She was like, 148 00:07:07,490 --> 00:07:09,200 Carrie's in my life. 149 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,120 She taught me to look and see what my talents were. 150 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,750 She encouraged me perhaps to become a journalist. 151 00:07:18,050 --> 00:07:20,960 I almost say I liked that because I learned to use 152 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,360 a camera and I could go all the places you, 153 00:07:23,780 --> 00:07:24,110 you went, 154 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:26,870 but I could stay behind my camera. 155 00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:28,760 Then I didn't really have to come out. 156 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:29,540 And people, 157 00:07:30,030 --> 00:07:30,560 you know, 158 00:07:30,590 --> 00:07:34,070 it's because of Jean that I actually met. 159 00:07:34,310 --> 00:07:35,570 Lyndon Johnson. 160 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:37,270 Want to hear that story? 161 00:07:37,270 --> 00:07:39,430 But I do have a question for you first. 162 00:07:39,730 --> 00:07:44,710 It seems so courageous to even go off to college in 163 00:07:44,710 --> 00:07:48,370 Texas. How did you decide that that was going to happen? 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,090 Most women at that time didn't really go to college yet? 165 00:07:52,660 --> 00:07:55,150 No, it was decided for me. 166 00:07:55,480 --> 00:08:01,120 I remember the school in feelings really when I was 13, 167 00:08:01,150 --> 00:08:04,630 but I was too young to really go for college. 168 00:08:04,630 --> 00:08:09,820 So I was put in a school and the people, 169 00:08:09,820 --> 00:08:13,780 they were really kind to me and they understood that I 170 00:08:13,780 --> 00:08:18,880 had never really had a mother and they with my father 171 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:24,190 decided that I would go to college in Austin. 172 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:28,630 My father sent me off with a shiny black Buick. 173 00:08:28,630 --> 00:08:33,790 I was 17 years old and a charge account that Neiman 174 00:08:33,790 --> 00:08:36,700 Marcus. And while I may have looked rather sophisticated, 175 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,550 I knew nothing of the world. 176 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:41,770 I'd still say that word. 177 00:08:41,770 --> 00:08:42,880 It's pretty courageous. 178 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,770 Even though you knew that that was what you were going 179 00:08:44,770 --> 00:08:48,490 to have to do to go ahead and go and then 180 00:08:48,610 --> 00:08:51,490 make your way in the world is amazing. 181 00:08:51,730 --> 00:08:56,580 So you met Eugena and then you Lyndon tell us that 182 00:08:56,580 --> 00:08:59,000 story. After college, 183 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,110 I had all manner of dreams of what I might do 184 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:04,300 as a journalism. 185 00:09:04,670 --> 00:09:08,960 Jean had encouraged me to take shorthand and typing. 186 00:09:09,380 --> 00:09:15,290 She got a job in a Congressman Greenberg's office in Austin, 187 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:18,590 but I was still too frightened of the world. 188 00:09:18,770 --> 00:09:20,090 I went back home, 189 00:09:20,310 --> 00:09:25,190 nobody had paid any line to my father's house since my 190 00:09:25,190 --> 00:09:26,060 mother's death. 191 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,520 And I decided that I would remodel it, 192 00:09:28,940 --> 00:09:33,140 which also gave me the opportunity to go to Austin often. 193 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:36,140 And I was in Jean's office. 194 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:38,870 When this man came in, 195 00:09:38,870 --> 00:09:40,580 he was tall and dark. 196 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:44,240 Hadn't had more energy than any man that had ever seen 197 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:45,440 except my father. 198 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,070 And he had come there because he had a date with 199 00:09:49,070 --> 00:09:51,110 one of the girls in the office. 200 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:54,350 He looked at me in a certain way and he looked 201 00:09:54,350 --> 00:09:56,240 at his date and they lifted. 202 00:09:56,260 --> 00:09:59,960 Jean invited us all to come out with him. 203 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,880 And then he took me home life. 204 00:10:03,950 --> 00:10:05,270 Well, not really. 205 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,030 He dropped me off at the hotel and he is, 206 00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:11,390 but the scan of the words and the perhaps made me 207 00:10:11,390 --> 00:10:17,090 meet him for breakfast in the hotel the next day. 208 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:18,560 And I did, 209 00:10:19,580 --> 00:10:23,600 I had an appointment with an architect first and he waited 210 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,280 for him and during the appointment, 211 00:10:25,580 --> 00:10:28,220 and then he took me for a ride and he told 212 00:10:28,220 --> 00:10:31,880 me the most amazing thing all about his family. 213 00:10:32,270 --> 00:10:35,720 And he used the ambition and his age education, 214 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,320 and we spent four or five days talking. 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,390 I decided he should meet daddy. 216 00:10:41,750 --> 00:10:43,640 And I brought him back to Khan, 217 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,760 AQ, and I could see that it was quite impressed by 218 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:47,480 this fella. 219 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:52,070 And then Lyndon had to go back with Congressman Kleberg to 220 00:10:52,070 --> 00:10:54,740 Washington. He was also in that school there, 221 00:10:54,740 --> 00:10:57,680 but he wrote to me and he telephoned me and I 222 00:10:57,680 --> 00:10:59,870 got letters and calls every day. 223 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,600 And he kept asking me to marry him. 224 00:11:03,020 --> 00:11:05,390 And I talked to my friends and they said, 225 00:11:05,390 --> 00:11:05,930 well, wait, 226 00:11:06,140 --> 00:11:08,120 you hardly know the man. 227 00:11:08,510 --> 00:11:11,930 And I went to talk to Jeannie and all that again. 228 00:11:12,230 --> 00:11:13,490 And while I was there, 229 00:11:13,790 --> 00:11:17,870 when then came forth to the hotel early in the morning, 230 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:18,410 I'm not, 231 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,840 I am not there early in the morning. 232 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,330 And he had gotten his friend, 233 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,230 Dan Quayle, 234 00:11:24,230 --> 00:11:28,340 who was a postmaster to arrange a marriage license and a 235 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:30,890 rector edit and a piece of paly and church. 236 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:33,800 And for that afternoon he said, 237 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:34,610 take her away. 238 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,300 But So he really took control. 239 00:11:38,300 --> 00:11:39,860 How did you feel about that? 240 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,770 I suppose I was used to man taken control and I 241 00:11:45,770 --> 00:11:49,610 was smitten with this towel bundle of energy. 242 00:11:49,610 --> 00:11:53,180 I, Paul Jean and a few other friends. 243 00:11:53,710 --> 00:11:58,450 They met us at the church and I had a reading 244 00:11:58,450 --> 00:12:01,300 from the Sears and Roebuck across the street. 245 00:12:01,690 --> 00:12:05,020 I've never been good to see the marriage license for me 246 00:12:05,020 --> 00:12:08,140 is I was afraid we were not legally married. 247 00:12:08,140 --> 00:12:11,110 I think it wasn't until our 20th anniversary, 248 00:12:11,470 --> 00:12:13,750 then you're spraying produce it for me. 249 00:12:14,170 --> 00:12:18,970 There I was a wife who had never cooked a meal 250 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,900 with her life or higher two rings a finger for anybody 251 00:12:21,910 --> 00:12:22,840 mother sale. 252 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:27,210 Well, it was clearly the right decision because you stayed married 253 00:12:27,210 --> 00:12:28,350 for quite a while, 254 00:12:28,590 --> 00:12:32,070 but how did you stay married to that bundle of energy? 255 00:12:32,070 --> 00:12:32,880 That was Linden? 256 00:12:33,660 --> 00:12:38,010 Well, Linden decided that he would run for Congress. 257 00:12:38,430 --> 00:12:41,340 I borrowed against my inheritance to help him. 258 00:12:41,340 --> 00:12:45,570 And some other people pitched in and now I was given 259 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,000 things to do on the campaign trail. 260 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,250 And I was given a purpose. 261 00:12:50,490 --> 00:12:56,940 My purpose was to keep my husband's shirts pressed and to 262 00:12:56,940 --> 00:13:00,690 talk to people and stand up and address crowd. 263 00:13:01,260 --> 00:13:03,030 I was good at the first. 264 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:04,800 I learned how to do that, 265 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:08,100 but I was not so good at the second, 266 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:09,960 but I had a purpose. 267 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:11,970 So how do you, 268 00:13:11,970 --> 00:13:16,170 when you have a purpose fulfill what you're supposed to do 269 00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:22,290 now, Landon had always said that it really was not important 270 00:13:22,290 --> 00:13:26,580 for you to know exactly how you were going to accomplish 271 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:27,900 what you set out to do. 272 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:33,210 You simply have to look inside yourself and see what your 273 00:13:33,210 --> 00:13:37,740 talents are and then use them to the best of your 274 00:13:37,740 --> 00:13:39,870 ability to get, 275 00:13:39,870 --> 00:13:43,850 to fulfill the purpose you had set out to come to 276 00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:44,970 you. Wow. 277 00:13:45,030 --> 00:13:50,220 That is a really interesting point because just as women of 278 00:13:50,220 --> 00:13:52,800 today, you're really not successful. 279 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,080 Unless you drive to a certain goal, 280 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:56,820 you have some type of vision. 281 00:13:57,060 --> 00:13:59,490 And I think what I'm hearing you say, 282 00:13:59,490 --> 00:14:03,240 lady bird is you weren't necessarily sure how you were going 283 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:03,990 to get there, 284 00:14:04,020 --> 00:14:06,240 but you knew what the purpose was. 285 00:14:06,750 --> 00:14:09,960 Yes. So that was the whole thing to know what the 286 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,890 purpose is. 287 00:14:10,890 --> 00:14:13,680 So if the purpose was to get boots, 288 00:14:14,010 --> 00:14:16,530 I decided I could take my car, 289 00:14:16,530 --> 00:14:20,820 my little black Buick and drive a town ahead or two 290 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,420 where Lyndon was going to come through and I would stop. 291 00:14:24,450 --> 00:14:27,360 And I would get one gallon of gas. 292 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:28,560 Now, in those days, 293 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:29,820 when you got gas, 294 00:14:30,150 --> 00:14:32,280 they wash your windshield, 295 00:14:32,460 --> 00:14:34,440 checked the pressure in your tires, 296 00:14:34,470 --> 00:14:37,710 they check your oil while they were doing that. 297 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,420 I would speak to the man, 298 00:14:39,570 --> 00:14:41,250 cause they're always man, 299 00:14:41,250 --> 00:14:43,290 sit from the gas station, 300 00:14:43,530 --> 00:14:44,790 tell him who I was, 301 00:14:45,060 --> 00:14:48,090 who Landon was hand for literature, 302 00:14:48,750 --> 00:14:53,270 give them all a big Tam devote fully and then, 303 00:14:53,450 --> 00:14:56,270 and drive out to the next gas station. 304 00:14:56,660 --> 00:14:59,720 I'm always better at that time talking to one or two 305 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,890 people, then the dozens or hundreds I was asked to. 306 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:08,150 And that's how I fulfilled my purpose and have landed. 307 00:15:08,150 --> 00:15:10,250 And I got to Washington. 308 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:13,990 So did you already have this strategy when you set off 309 00:15:14,020 --> 00:15:17,620 or did it evolve as you stopped for gas and you 310 00:15:17,620 --> 00:15:18,970 saw an opportunity and said, 311 00:15:18,970 --> 00:15:20,800 Hey, I'm going to spread the word. 312 00:15:21,070 --> 00:15:22,630 And then it became a plan. 313 00:15:22,690 --> 00:15:23,950 Then that was your strategy, 314 00:15:23,950 --> 00:15:24,850 your campaign plan, 315 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:26,560 Where it started, 316 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,310 because I could not fulfill the purpose of speaking to the 317 00:15:30,310 --> 00:15:32,080 group, too many people. 318 00:15:32,380 --> 00:15:35,350 So it was a different way to get the same results. 319 00:15:35,950 --> 00:15:40,750 Exactly. There are often many ways and I have learned that 320 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:41,950 over my lifetime. 321 00:15:42,130 --> 00:15:44,500 Sometimes the world tells you Madam, 322 00:15:44,710 --> 00:15:47,680 that tactic is not going to work. 323 00:15:48,010 --> 00:15:49,930 So you look to your talents. 324 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:53,680 Well, what are my talents and how can I use them 325 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:54,820 to do this differently? 326 00:15:55,090 --> 00:15:56,680 When we got to Washington, 327 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,520 for instance, 328 00:15:57,850 --> 00:16:01,720 a congressman's wife was posed to have a lot of teams 329 00:16:01,930 --> 00:16:04,000 with all the congressmen wives, 330 00:16:04,060 --> 00:16:06,070 with the senators wives, 331 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:09,430 with the wives of the diplomatic Corps, 332 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,520 it was driving me mad. 333 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:14,830 I am change. 334 00:16:15,130 --> 00:16:17,830 But then I saw that in politics, 335 00:16:18,310 --> 00:16:19,990 constituents come, 336 00:16:19,990 --> 00:16:25,330 first constituents is spelled all in capital letters. 337 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:29,020 So what did constituents need? 338 00:16:29,020 --> 00:16:30,970 When they came to Washington, 339 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,460 they needed a host to take them to learn and order 340 00:16:35,460 --> 00:16:37,150 the Lincoln Memorial, 341 00:16:37,450 --> 00:16:42,280 all the cherry trees and lots of things that I love 342 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,880 and that I had a tailor to learn about. 343 00:16:46,330 --> 00:16:51,670 And so in that wing map purpose in being a representative, 344 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:57,130 why was to help his career and keep his constituents, 345 00:16:57,550 --> 00:16:59,230 appreciating him. 346 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,190 And if I could show our appreciation for them, 347 00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:04,720 by taking them around, 348 00:17:05,050 --> 00:17:07,300 I met so many wonderful people. 349 00:17:07,540 --> 00:17:10,210 I learned so many wonderful things. 350 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:15,400 It was my way of getting to the purpose by using 351 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,870 my talents. 352 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:20,980 We're so smart because you used what naturally you felt comfortable 353 00:17:20,980 --> 00:17:25,330 with and your skills and not everyone has that skill of 354 00:17:25,330 --> 00:17:29,800 being a hostess and the social one-on-one and touring and all 355 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:30,220 of that. 356 00:17:30,250 --> 00:17:31,960 So that was brilliant lady bird, 357 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:34,410 But I didn't know it was brilliant. 358 00:17:34,420 --> 00:17:36,820 I didn't know that anybody else could use it. 359 00:17:36,850 --> 00:17:42,700 Quill really had to take a deep breath was after Pearl 360 00:17:42,700 --> 00:17:48,340 Harbor, Landon like many other congressmen and enlisted. 361 00:17:48,490 --> 00:17:56,840 Right. And I knew that I was chosen to be continuity 362 00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:58,130 in his office. 363 00:17:58,520 --> 00:17:59,630 I did have some money. 364 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,090 Hey, and I could write a good letter. 365 00:18:02,510 --> 00:18:06,980 I don't think anybody expected much more me than that. 366 00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:09,020 That's what women do. 367 00:18:09,020 --> 00:18:12,950 Just wouldn't gene had done back in Austin, 368 00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:18,200 but I assume so that there were things that were not 369 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,020 being done constituents. 370 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,360 We're going to suffer for it. 371 00:18:23,810 --> 00:18:27,260 People would write and the mother would want to know what 372 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:28,640 her stainless son was. 373 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:30,590 And a farmer was upset. 374 00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:31,130 Cause he was, 375 00:18:31,130 --> 00:18:35,450 I'm afraid that the rural electrification project wouldn't be go ahead 376 00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:37,100 because of the war, 377 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:39,080 people needed rooms. 378 00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:43,760 And they needed to know things about where taxes were going 379 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:49,040 to help their particular part of our congressional district. 380 00:18:49,820 --> 00:18:55,160 And so I had to move into a whole new set 381 00:18:55,160 --> 00:19:00,530 of skills because my purpose was to be continuity. 382 00:19:00,830 --> 00:19:06,350 My purpose was to have things ruined as well in smoothly. 383 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,290 And for the benefit of our constituents, 384 00:19:09,530 --> 00:19:11,930 is it Landon was there himself. 385 00:19:12,830 --> 00:19:18,860 Women were strong and powerful as wives at this time and 386 00:19:18,860 --> 00:19:21,290 not particularly in their own. 387 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,730 And the amazing thing that happened is that I found that 388 00:19:25,730 --> 00:19:26,780 I could do this. 389 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:31,400 I saw it for the first time that I could actually, 390 00:19:31,610 --> 00:19:34,970 if a woman to earn my own living, 391 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:37,760 I could live my own life. 392 00:19:38,030 --> 00:19:39,320 I could leave, 393 00:19:39,650 --> 00:19:44,120 Oh, the people to do what they had to do. 394 00:19:44,540 --> 00:19:47,060 I certainly did so problems wrong way. 395 00:19:47,060 --> 00:19:49,100 I could never use Linden's method. 396 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:51,200 And if I was a squeaking wheel, 397 00:19:51,290 --> 00:19:54,650 I was a wheel that squeaked very politely. 398 00:19:55,100 --> 00:19:57,320 And that is a very good thing. 399 00:19:57,950 --> 00:19:59,660 And for your self esteem, 400 00:19:59,870 --> 00:20:03,590 when you understand that you might have a place in the 401 00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:06,220 world. Now I have to tell you at this time I 402 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:07,790 still didn't have any children. 403 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,260 I had four miscarriages and a tubular pregnancy, 404 00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:19,220 but I was having a tremendously exciting vital life. 405 00:20:19,580 --> 00:20:22,230 And that is good to know that you yourself, 406 00:20:22,250 --> 00:20:23,840 beside from a man, 407 00:20:24,260 --> 00:20:27,020 Hey capabilities. 408 00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:31,610 I found that out rather than to my amazement purpose, 409 00:20:31,610 --> 00:20:35,600 defined by being Lyndon Johnson's wife for a lot of beliefs. 410 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:37,160 So at that time, 411 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:41,660 not so unusual for other women at that time. 412 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,250 That's what I saw around me. 413 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,250 But I must tell you that it was about to change 414 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,340 for me and for other women. 415 00:20:48,670 --> 00:20:51,550 You see who hope I happened, 416 00:20:52,030 --> 00:20:57,670 world war CIMA started and Leander like many other congressmen. 417 00:20:57,670 --> 00:21:02,740 Like many of the American man just went and volunteered for 418 00:21:02,740 --> 00:21:04,990 the army and left their jobs. 419 00:21:05,740 --> 00:21:10,540 And Linden left me the job to be the continuity in 420 00:21:10,540 --> 00:21:11,500 his office. 421 00:21:11,860 --> 00:21:14,230 Now a handsome show of hand. 422 00:21:14,290 --> 00:21:17,770 And I had typing and I could write a good letter. 423 00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:21,310 That's what women did in man's offices. 424 00:21:21,340 --> 00:21:27,010 But I soon found that things were not being done to 425 00:21:27,010 --> 00:21:30,640 help our constituents like, 426 00:21:30,820 --> 00:21:34,660 Oh, a woman would write to us and frantically asking where 427 00:21:34,660 --> 00:21:37,480 her stainless son was on a farm or would ask, 428 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:43,570 would he electrification of his farm be delayed because of the 429 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:47,800 war. People needed to know that there was still tax money 430 00:21:48,070 --> 00:21:51,580 coming their way for rooms and water, 431 00:21:52,030 --> 00:21:53,260 other projects. 432 00:21:53,590 --> 00:21:57,220 And I knew all of Brandon's brands, 433 00:21:57,340 --> 00:21:59,020 all his network. 434 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,520 And I knew how to pick up a telephone or vote 435 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,440 about offices and talk to them. 436 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:06,130 I mean, 437 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,120 a Habs, 438 00:22:07,180 --> 00:22:08,770 I was a squeak in whale, 439 00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:11,560 but I was a squeaky wheel my way. 440 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:15,280 I could never do it the way Liam did. 441 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:18,160 And so we got things done. 442 00:22:18,660 --> 00:22:18,990 You know, 443 00:22:18,990 --> 00:22:23,370 you don't come across to me as having that bravado. 444 00:22:23,610 --> 00:22:26,130 Did you just feel like you had no choice, 445 00:22:26,130 --> 00:22:26,940 but to step up? 446 00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:28,170 So you just did it. 447 00:22:28,770 --> 00:22:35,430 Yes. My purpose was to make the office continue the way 448 00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:39,720 it had when Landon was there and that meant doing things 449 00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:42,060 for our constituents. 450 00:22:42,420 --> 00:22:47,640 And I found as I did it that I really could 451 00:22:48,120 --> 00:22:48,750 do it. 452 00:22:49,110 --> 00:22:49,620 It was, 453 00:22:49,710 --> 00:22:50,880 as Lyndon said, 454 00:22:50,970 --> 00:22:54,810 I didn't know when I started out exactly how I was 455 00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:57,690 going to accomplish my purpose. 456 00:22:58,170 --> 00:23:02,310 And I started with the parents I had and I went 457 00:23:02,310 --> 00:23:05,490 on and I realized if it was ever necessary, 458 00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:07,230 I could make my own living. 459 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,750 And that's a good feeling to hire. 460 00:23:09,750 --> 00:23:12,780 That's very good for you and for your self esteem and 461 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:14,280 for your place in the world, 462 00:23:15,010 --> 00:23:17,220 You share a good message for all of us here. 463 00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:18,690 And that is in the beginning. 464 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,890 You might have questioned, 465 00:23:19,890 --> 00:23:21,660 but you did anyway. 466 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,680 And then the success of having done that led to more 467 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,000 confidence, which in turn led to a higher level of doing 468 00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:32,100 and it just kept progressing from there. 469 00:23:32,730 --> 00:23:33,570 Well, yes, 470 00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:36,870 and it was so important to me to see that things 471 00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:37,920 were being done. 472 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:41,400 Our newspaper in our districts said that instead of reelecting, 473 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,950 Landon to Congress in absentia, 474 00:23:44,130 --> 00:23:47,470 they should call a convention and nominate Mrs. 475 00:23:47,510 --> 00:23:50,720 Bending. Wow. 476 00:23:51,530 --> 00:23:55,250 It was wonderful because I didn't have any home-based like other 477 00:23:55,250 --> 00:23:56,000 women did. 478 00:23:56,270 --> 00:24:00,260 I had had four miscarriages at a tubular pregnancy during the 479 00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:01,730 years of our marriage, 480 00:24:01,820 --> 00:24:07,520 but I realized I by myself had tremendously excited by life 481 00:24:07,790 --> 00:24:10,880 and I didn't have to have any home base so to 482 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:15,440 speak. And it's good to know that you yourself was that 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:16,400 from a man. 484 00:24:17,060 --> 00:24:18,860 So capabilities. 485 00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,530 I found that to my amazement. 486 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,040 Right. And so how Did things carry on from there? 487 00:24:26,150 --> 00:24:31,760 Well, Linden came home and he thanked me profusely and profoundly 488 00:24:31,820 --> 00:24:35,000 and then told me I didn't have to go down to 489 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,660 the office, 490 00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:36,470 the NMO, 491 00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:38,900 but now you loved what you were doing. 492 00:24:39,410 --> 00:24:43,520 Yeah. And it was not available to me anymore. 493 00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:45,920 I had lost my purpose. 494 00:24:46,310 --> 00:24:50,870 And so I decided that I would use my experience in 495 00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:52,280 one, to be a journalist. 496 00:24:52,670 --> 00:24:55,820 And I would find a newspaper in Austin, 497 00:24:55,820 --> 00:25:00,050 Texas. And instead I found a radio station and I went 498 00:25:00,050 --> 00:25:05,150 down to Austin and this radio station had own corrected bills 499 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:08,600 and advertisers who never paid. 500 00:25:09,380 --> 00:25:12,860 And I used from knowledge. 501 00:25:13,130 --> 00:25:14,690 Then my uncle Claude, 502 00:25:14,690 --> 00:25:20,810 the cello had given me about finance and how you had 503 00:25:20,810 --> 00:25:22,610 to collect your receivables, 504 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:23,120 you know, 505 00:25:23,120 --> 00:25:24,950 to pay for your bills. 506 00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:30,800 I put that radio station into a position where I was 507 00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:32,570 actually making money, 508 00:25:33,020 --> 00:25:35,000 but Linden for me to come home. 509 00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:38,210 Now I had a choice to make, 510 00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:43,010 did I stay in Austin or did I go home to 511 00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:43,820 this man? 512 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:47,930 And I decided I really loved me. 513 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,210 And he told me more dreams that he would have about 514 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,310 becoming a Senator. 515 00:25:56,030 --> 00:26:00,380 And I had to find a new purpose as it happened. 516 00:26:00,830 --> 00:26:01,820 I got pregnant, 517 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:03,920 I got pregnant twice. 518 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:08,510 I had my beautiful daughters and I found that while I 519 00:26:08,510 --> 00:26:09,230 was home, 520 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:15,500 I could still build more radio stations and television was permanent. 521 00:26:15,790 --> 00:26:21,290 And I could manage my stations and my television stations and 522 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:23,390 my family at the same time. 523 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:25,220 And it was wonderful. 524 00:26:25,550 --> 00:26:28,040 So that became my purpose. 525 00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:31,130 And I used all my talent to do that. 526 00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,510 But now you did become one of the great women in 527 00:26:34,510 --> 00:26:36,910 politics. Well, 528 00:26:37,270 --> 00:26:39,760 in 1955, 529 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,380 Landon had a big purpose. 530 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,630 He saw that the South could not continue segregated. 531 00:26:49,020 --> 00:26:55,440 He saw that Bob being segregated businesses would not come to 532 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,130 the South. 533 00:26:56,550 --> 00:27:02,040 That population was leaving and go and know that the South 534 00:27:02,100 --> 00:27:04,870 was becoming the same kind of program. 535 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:07,980 It had been before the civil war. 536 00:27:08,460 --> 00:27:10,620 And he started to change that. 537 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:11,190 Of course, 538 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:13,530 he had tremendous resistance, 539 00:27:13,530 --> 00:27:18,120 so much resistance that he had a heart attack and the 540 00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:22,200 called me and I rushed to the hospital and you know, 541 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,460 to see someone not in their own, 542 00:27:26,790 --> 00:27:29,910 right. And I thought I might lose him. 543 00:27:30,510 --> 00:27:35,340 And I decided at that time they needed my care. 544 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,170 He needed my attention and that I was willing to make 545 00:27:40,170 --> 00:27:44,130 my purpose to achieve and Hughes purpose. 546 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:46,770 You know that in 1957, 547 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:53,370 Linden spent 32 things on a court in the Congress trying 548 00:27:53,370 --> 00:27:57,000 to get the equal education has. 549 00:27:57,450 --> 00:28:02,430 And I brought him meals and I brought him clean clothes. 550 00:28:03,030 --> 00:28:04,230 And then of course, 551 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:05,820 shortly after that, 552 00:28:06,210 --> 00:28:13,020 he was chosen randomly for John Fitzgerald Kennedy. 553 00:28:13,830 --> 00:28:16,530 And I met those Kennedy women. 554 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:19,640 I was in some tall call. 555 00:28:19,650 --> 00:28:23,250 And for the first time I did what I had never 556 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:25,740 done. I joined the Capitol speakers club. 557 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,660 I was in my late forties. 558 00:28:27,780 --> 00:28:30,630 And I took lessons in how to give us things, 559 00:28:31,530 --> 00:28:33,120 how to Olga, 560 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:37,950 how to pace your delivery, 561 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:42,120 how to wait for applause and laughter. 562 00:28:42,930 --> 00:28:44,850 And we hit the campaign trail. 563 00:28:45,150 --> 00:28:47,370 We certainly did that. 564 00:28:47,370 --> 00:28:49,800 We won that election. 565 00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:53,450 And what a proud time that was I'm sure. 566 00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:56,360 Yes, of course it's certainly worth, 567 00:28:56,450 --> 00:29:00,080 I was so proud of playing them and where we had 568 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,070 come. And I will tell you that we went all around 569 00:29:04,070 --> 00:29:07,070 the world and we would be signing guests books. 570 00:29:07,550 --> 00:29:10,460 And in front of me would be people from other countries. 571 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:13,670 A woman would be signing lady this and lady that, 572 00:29:14,210 --> 00:29:15,170 and I must tell you, 573 00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:16,340 I felt at all, 574 00:29:16,340 --> 00:29:16,820 it's fine. 575 00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:17,900 And lady bird, 576 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:21,320 But that's what you were known as. 577 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:22,460 That's right. 578 00:29:22,490 --> 00:29:25,640 That's what I was known as I could never lose lady. 579 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:25,850 But yeah. 580 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:31,040 And I love the progression of your life story because you 581 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,730 continued to look for more surmountable things, 582 00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:36,230 more things that challenged you, 583 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:37,700 that you could overcome. 584 00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:39,470 It started from the beginning, 585 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:43,000 just having a purpose in the place and then building your 586 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,140 confidence as you took over and then going through the election 587 00:29:47,410 --> 00:29:50,680 and then the radio stations and all of that. 588 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,830 And your whole life was just building on top of itself 589 00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:55,780 and giving you more and more confidence. 590 00:29:55,780 --> 00:29:58,750 And I'm quite sure more and more pride, 591 00:29:58,930 --> 00:30:00,160 which then allowed you, 592 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,250 when you decided you wanted to switch your purpose to support 593 00:30:03,250 --> 00:30:05,200 your husband and the campaign. 594 00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:08,020 You were even a stronger woman at that point. 595 00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:10,020 Well thank you for saying that, 596 00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:11,160 Susan, but it is, 597 00:30:11,460 --> 00:30:13,920 you can't stay at home in bed. 598 00:30:13,950 --> 00:30:17,130 You got to get dressed and go to work. 599 00:30:17,970 --> 00:30:19,020 This sounds great, 600 00:30:19,020 --> 00:30:22,170 but I don't think we can overlook the assassination. 601 00:30:22,860 --> 00:30:24,780 Yeah. The day had started her up. 602 00:30:24,810 --> 00:30:29,850 So there was sunshine and the streets were lined with people, 603 00:30:29,850 --> 00:30:31,050 families, children, 604 00:30:31,050 --> 00:30:32,610 with flags and FICA. 605 00:30:32,710 --> 00:30:37,050 And then suddenly they went and Linden secret service man came 606 00:30:37,050 --> 00:30:38,430 over the back of the car. 607 00:30:38,460 --> 00:30:41,730 He shoved me to the floor and put his body across 608 00:30:41,730 --> 00:30:43,800 the landing and I could barely breathe. 609 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,630 And then we would go on fast. 610 00:30:45,660 --> 00:30:46,320 So very, 611 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:47,370 very fast. 612 00:30:47,670 --> 00:30:50,940 And then we stopped suddenly in the hustle Vivian side. 613 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,360 And I knew that we were in a hospital and Lyndon 614 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,510 said, go find Jackie and Millie Connolly. 615 00:30:57,780 --> 00:30:59,730 The husbands have been shot. 616 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,680 So I want to be long what corridors until I found 617 00:31:05,070 --> 00:31:08,220 Jackie outside operating room, 618 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,140 she was quite alone. 619 00:31:10,590 --> 00:31:12,060 She looked like a right, 620 00:31:12,270 --> 00:31:15,420 as you might expect that I hold her. 621 00:31:15,690 --> 00:31:17,070 And then when I stepped back, 622 00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:21,510 I saw that her pink suit was to prove it in 623 00:31:21,510 --> 00:31:25,530 her husband's blood had gloves and one leg. 624 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:26,280 And she said, 625 00:31:26,910 --> 00:31:30,390 I want them to see what they have done. 626 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,750 You've seen pictures of me on the airplane standing next to 627 00:31:36,750 --> 00:31:39,720 Linden when he has taken the oath of all. 628 00:31:40,830 --> 00:31:42,030 But I am not there. 629 00:31:42,540 --> 00:31:47,160 I have retreated to someplace where none of this is happening. 630 00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,830 It is quiet. 631 00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:55,650 And I am by myself instead of surrounded by people in 632 00:31:55,650 --> 00:31:59,490 morning, it was a place I went to after my mom 633 00:31:59,490 --> 00:32:00,150 or dad, 634 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,160 but I couldn't stay there there, 635 00:32:02,250 --> 00:32:06,840 no, because there were changes that had to be made and 636 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,940 they would changes of a domestic. 637 00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:11,790 So housing children, 638 00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:16,110 decorations for Christmas had to come down and morning had to 639 00:32:16,110 --> 00:32:20,340 go up and we had to move and the Kennedy's and 640 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:25,680 Mrs. Kennedy and her children that was all needed for retention. 641 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,410 You could not stay in bed. 642 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:30,390 You had to get up, 643 00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:32,790 get dressed and go to work. 644 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,310 And then in a very short time, 645 00:32:35,550 --> 00:32:41,330 Linda had to decide if was going to ruin for president 646 00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:47,000 again. And he asked me after this mass sale to help 647 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,430 him room for president. 648 00:32:49,940 --> 00:32:50,930 And I wrote him, 649 00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:51,470 I said, 650 00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:56,120 beloved, you are as brave a man as Harry Truman or 651 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,440 FPR Lincoln, 652 00:32:57,860 --> 00:33:02,660 you can go on to finish some peace and some achievement 653 00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:04,760 amidst all the pain. 654 00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:11,690 You are strong patient determined beyond words of mind to experience 655 00:33:12,290 --> 00:33:17,330 and a awning for just spit out now would be wrong 656 00:33:17,330 --> 00:33:18,260 for your country. 657 00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:24,980 And so I joined him in that struggle and I found 658 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,050 in that purpose, 659 00:33:27,650 --> 00:33:29,600 something I had never, 660 00:33:30,110 --> 00:33:31,910 ever found before. 661 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:33,740 And what was that? 662 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,210 I decided I would have a whistle stop campaign. 663 00:33:38,510 --> 00:33:41,000 Harry Truman had done it in the forties. 664 00:33:41,180 --> 00:33:43,760 The train would leave Washington DC, 665 00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:46,460 go through the South and come back. 666 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,660 And we would stop at small towns and bring our message 667 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:55,700 of change in the country of bringing peace of integrating everybody. 668 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,800 But the men would not really get a port. 669 00:34:01,070 --> 00:34:05,720 The lady bird special sensitive was suddenly too busy. 670 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:13,430 Congressman couldn't see me now the most wonderful press secretary name 671 00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:15,410 is Results carpenter. 672 00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:18,710 And Liz was just a bundle of energy. 673 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,300 And she said, 674 00:34:20,450 --> 00:34:21,590 no lady, 675 00:34:21,590 --> 00:34:24,590 but if the man won't help us, 676 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,690 the women would do it. 677 00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:29,870 And for the first time I had a team, 678 00:34:30,290 --> 00:34:31,940 I had a team with live. 679 00:34:32,380 --> 00:34:34,980 I had a team with Kennedy. 680 00:34:36,190 --> 00:34:40,720 I had a team working with me and Kayla breezy, 681 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,220 Marjorie, Megan, 682 00:34:42,220 --> 00:34:42,610 the mayor, 683 00:34:42,730 --> 00:34:44,050 Senator Byrd, 684 00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:45,700 wouldn't come on a train, 685 00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:47,530 but don't order it. 686 00:34:47,950 --> 00:34:49,000 And I found that, 687 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,530 wow, the mayor of a small town or the sheriff or 688 00:34:53,530 --> 00:34:54,880 commissioner of a County, 689 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:59,530 wasn't so willing to come forward with their wives were they 690 00:34:59,530 --> 00:35:02,500 came from God and clubs and church groups. 691 00:35:02,830 --> 00:35:04,150 And so in circle, 692 00:35:04,630 --> 00:35:07,510 we started out on the Ladybird special. 693 00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:10,750 I remember we got to one pound at six in the 694 00:35:10,750 --> 00:35:14,620 morning and a woman came up on the back car where 695 00:35:14,620 --> 00:35:16,540 I was standing and shook my hand. 696 00:35:16,540 --> 00:35:16,900 She said, 697 00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:17,290 you know, 698 00:35:17,290 --> 00:35:20,060 I go there at two o'clock in the morning to milk 699 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,360 all my cows and do my chores. 700 00:35:22,510 --> 00:35:24,550 So I could come here with her. 701 00:35:24,850 --> 00:35:27,910 And I knew that I was the closest she would ever 702 00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:30,340 come to her government, 703 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,570 but she considered herself an American, 704 00:35:35,380 --> 00:35:36,400 a citizen. 705 00:35:36,730 --> 00:35:41,880 She proud to be the heart of this whole democracy. 706 00:35:42,270 --> 00:35:46,800 And that women had to realize that and join in that. 707 00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,360 And they were ready, 708 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,000 women and able to do that. 709 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:57,330 Everything, those four days are most proud of the most fulfilling, 710 00:35:57,810 --> 00:36:03,200 the most wonderful days of my who Just as you were 711 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,910 talking about the change in you, 712 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:06,350 when you found your purpose, 713 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,020 that's exactly what you were doing for all of those women 714 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:10,730 too. Yeah. 715 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:12,050 I tried. 716 00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:14,540 I had to find something to do now, 717 00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:15,920 Jackie Kennedy, 718 00:36:16,250 --> 00:36:17,930 if say that they're hot. 719 00:36:18,020 --> 00:36:22,970 Oh, with being the woman to redo the white house, 720 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,140 the people's house, 721 00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:27,230 but they're what were my family. 722 00:36:28,130 --> 00:36:32,120 My parents were no one about why I flopped and Effie 723 00:36:34,370 --> 00:36:35,720 came forward and me. 724 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:43,190 And so we started the beautified America project and then Brendan 725 00:36:43,730 --> 00:36:46,190 has the war on poverty. 726 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:52,880 And that started headstock and March tomorrow, 727 00:36:52,910 --> 00:36:57,740 consternation that the rural schools where the children were going, 728 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,520 will be in straightened by men with guns and bombs. 729 00:37:01,940 --> 00:37:05,270 And so I went there when to say, 730 00:37:05,660 --> 00:37:07,340 Hey, these are all, 731 00:37:07,790 --> 00:37:09,590 Oh, I have children. 732 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,350 And we have to think them. 733 00:37:12,650 --> 00:37:15,470 And we have to educate them, 734 00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:17,150 come on women. 735 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,540 The men can't come forward with their guns. 736 00:37:20,570 --> 00:37:21,770 And they'll bomb. 737 00:37:22,070 --> 00:37:26,510 You tell them who is in charge of these children. 738 00:37:26,930 --> 00:37:29,210 Women came out and they did that. 739 00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:34,130 And they would form a ring circle around school where I 740 00:37:34,130 --> 00:37:34,970 was visiting. 741 00:37:35,690 --> 00:37:36,800 And I must tell you, 742 00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:41,090 there were many times when a faith for the womb meant 743 00:37:41,090 --> 00:37:44,780 the face of a man and he took two steps back. 744 00:37:45,410 --> 00:37:47,840 Wow. That was courageous. 745 00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:50,120 The hardest part of that though, 746 00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:56,300 thanks to faith and meeting civility came during the Vietnam war. 747 00:37:56,930 --> 00:37:59,600 It was eaten Landon alive. 748 00:38:00,140 --> 00:38:04,730 If we win even outside the planet have, 749 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,470 Hey, Hey, 750 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,810 it'll be J harmony. 751 00:38:09,260 --> 00:38:10,010 It was off. 752 00:38:10,490 --> 00:38:11,600 It was terrible. 753 00:38:12,170 --> 00:38:15,320 And I saw that he was shrink. 754 00:38:15,980 --> 00:38:19,220 He was dying bad bit. 755 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,500 And so in March, 756 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,860 not teen six to eight, 757 00:38:25,460 --> 00:38:28,370 I wrote into a speech that he was about to give, 758 00:38:29,590 --> 00:38:31,280 will not see no, 759 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:37,390 will I expect the nomination of my party or president of 760 00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:38,620 the United States. 761 00:38:39,340 --> 00:38:40,840 I didn't know what he was on. 762 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,860 The speech began on television. 763 00:38:45,610 --> 00:38:46,060 And sure. 764 00:38:46,060 --> 00:38:48,490 I know that's what he's saying. 765 00:38:49,150 --> 00:38:54,100 And I just praying that we could make it through almost 766 00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,590 a moving here because you see, 767 00:38:56,650 --> 00:39:02,050 I found the wheelchair that Woodrow Wilson had used after he'd 768 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:04,000 had a stroke in office. 769 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,780 I knew that Linden could never do that and I couldn't 770 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:08,350 do it either. 771 00:39:08,770 --> 00:39:12,280 And we can't have the day and we could read the 772 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,970 why it happened and go back to the Hill country of 773 00:39:15,970 --> 00:39:17,830 Texas. That's what we did. 774 00:39:18,330 --> 00:39:21,090 And as you reflect back on that time, 775 00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:24,210 what would you say about all of that? 776 00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:28,650 The courage and the challenge and the horrors that you saw, 777 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:32,550 but also the significant changes you made in the impact on 778 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:33,300 the world. 779 00:39:33,690 --> 00:39:36,450 What would you say with all your wisdom to women of 780 00:39:36,450 --> 00:39:41,010 today? Women have more power today. 781 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,800 Women have more team, 782 00:39:44,250 --> 00:39:46,560 more other women to spring. 783 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,910 And with more men who are willing to accept a woman, 784 00:39:51,030 --> 00:39:53,220 not just a member of a team, 785 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:54,300 but a woman, 786 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,250 a leader of the team. 787 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,670 And so you must get up, 788 00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:04,260 get dressed and get to work to a purpose in what 789 00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:08,760 you need to do and your talents and your team. 790 00:40:09,270 --> 00:40:09,660 You know, 791 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:14,640 moving. When I started out that real Linden, 792 00:40:14,660 --> 00:40:18,000 we would achieve the civil rights act of 64, 793 00:40:18,420 --> 00:40:20,760 the voting rights act of 65, 794 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:23,700 the open house in the acts of 68, 795 00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:25,650 60 separate bills, 796 00:40:25,650 --> 00:40:28,980 making the federal government active partner in education, 797 00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:32,790 the war on poverty with four separate programs, 798 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:33,770 including headstart, 799 00:40:33,810 --> 00:40:36,000 Medicare, and the job Corps, 800 00:40:36,270 --> 00:40:38,880 the national endowment for the arts, 801 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,280 the national endowment for the humanities, 802 00:40:41,610 --> 00:40:44,040 you clean air and water standards, 803 00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:47,040 increase Parkland speed thing per se, 804 00:40:47,220 --> 00:40:54,330 and got a nuclear nonproliferation treaty signed and salt talks scheduled. 805 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:58,710 And just do that because that's your purpose. 806 00:40:59,340 --> 00:41:03,630 It's humbling to hear you list all of the accomplishments and 807 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,960 who talk about having to your purpose through life. 808 00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:08,520 And it isn't easy, 809 00:41:08,610 --> 00:41:09,390 but look at, 810 00:41:09,510 --> 00:41:10,950 by standing up, 811 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,480 getting out of bed every day, 812 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,080 like you're saying all that was able to be accomplished. 813 00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:17,730 Thank you. 814 00:41:17,730 --> 00:41:24,150 So, so things that you allowed me this opportunity to tell 815 00:41:24,150 --> 00:41:27,330 this story and to tell women of America, 816 00:41:27,330 --> 00:41:29,130 ham, or China, 817 00:41:29,820 --> 00:41:34,640 and how I pray that they create that purpose for them 818 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,430 sale and fulfill it as Wyatt. 819 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:41,110 Thank you so very much for spending your time with us 820 00:41:41,110 --> 00:41:42,160 lady, bird Johnson. 821 00:41:42,370 --> 00:41:43,600 I so appreciate it. 822 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:44,710 Thank you. 823 00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:48,580 So you have just heard about the life of lady bird 824 00:41:48,580 --> 00:41:51,820 Johnson enacted by Rebecca Bloomfield. 825 00:41:52,180 --> 00:41:55,810 Rebecca has a passion for portraying the lives of famous women 826 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,340 in American history. 827 00:41:57,850 --> 00:41:58,720 In fact, 828 00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:01,600 Rebecca, I believe you've actually met Ladybird Johnson. 829 00:42:02,170 --> 00:42:02,800 Yes I did. 830 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:08,680 So I was portraying Abigail Adams and was asked to do 831 00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:11,950 that at the Lyndon Johnson library. 832 00:42:11,950 --> 00:42:12,970 And Mrs. 833 00:42:12,970 --> 00:42:16,030 Johnson invited me to have dinner with her. 834 00:42:16,030 --> 00:42:18,520 I thought it was like a friends of the library and 835 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,110 there'd be hundreds of people there, 836 00:42:20,110 --> 00:42:22,750 but there were only 16 people there, 837 00:42:22,750 --> 00:42:27,010 lady bird Linda's speech writer who was now head of the 838 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,220 library lives carpenter for press secretary. 839 00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:34,780 Was there one of the Rob granddaughters and her fiance and 840 00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:39,460 two congressmen and their wives who had known lindens since 38. 841 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:44,620 And they told stories about her that even the granddaughter didn't 842 00:42:44,620 --> 00:42:50,110 know about her courage and how remarkable the woman she was. 843 00:42:50,110 --> 00:42:53,500 And then I got access to the library to create this 844 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:59,140 presentation. So you had done the presentation about Abigail and they 845 00:42:59,140 --> 00:43:01,480 saw it and then you got invited to dinner that had 846 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:02,740 to be incredible. 847 00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:06,640 Did she have any idea or did you know at the 848 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,070 time that you'd be doing the same thing for lady bird? 849 00:43:09,580 --> 00:43:13,180 No. I had to ask permission and I did, 850 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:15,280 and then I got access to it. 851 00:43:15,370 --> 00:43:16,240 Very interesting. 852 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,760 When I created Abigail, 853 00:43:18,970 --> 00:43:23,230 they were directly from her letters and her words and her 854 00:43:23,230 --> 00:43:24,580 thoughts and her feelings, 855 00:43:24,970 --> 00:43:29,830 but much of the news reporting and what was available superficially 856 00:43:29,830 --> 00:43:32,260 about lady bird was managed news. 857 00:43:32,740 --> 00:43:37,240 And often at one of these headstart openings, 858 00:43:37,330 --> 00:43:41,320 it would tell about the flowers they gave her or who 859 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:42,220 baked the cake, 860 00:43:42,940 --> 00:43:45,340 but not about what was going on outside. 861 00:43:45,940 --> 00:43:52,390 And fortunately the library had news reports and we're audio taping. 862 00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:56,050 People's recollections of lady bird and the Johnson. 863 00:43:56,260 --> 00:44:00,940 And I got to hear from them how they interacted with 864 00:44:00,940 --> 00:44:02,770 her and what she gave to them, 865 00:44:03,310 --> 00:44:06,100 What an enriching and rewarding thing to do. 866 00:44:06,310 --> 00:44:09,190 It had to be so interesting to uncover all of that 867 00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:11,050 and then to be able to relay it to all of 868 00:44:11,050 --> 00:44:13,690 us, because I'll tell you interviewing lady bird. 869 00:44:13,690 --> 00:44:13,930 I mean, 870 00:44:13,930 --> 00:44:17,920 I felt like I really was going back gift biz listeners. 871 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,190 This is the third time Rebecca has been on the gift 872 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:22,540 biz unwrapped podcast. 873 00:44:22,750 --> 00:44:27,460 She has done her portrayal of Abigail Adams that was back 874 00:44:27,460 --> 00:44:29,470 in episode 21. 875 00:44:29,470 --> 00:44:34,710 And we also did a wonderful woman named Elizabeth Meyer who 876 00:44:34,710 --> 00:44:37,380 came over to America from Switzerland. 877 00:44:37,380 --> 00:44:41,280 So we learned all about her journey and the life of 878 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,710 someone who decides that they're going to leave and go to 879 00:44:43,710 --> 00:44:46,410 an unknown land that we now inhabit. 880 00:44:46,410 --> 00:44:48,420 Both of those are going to be on the show notes 881 00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:49,770 page. Along with this Rebecca, 882 00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:54,390 we've made kind of a little triad of historical stories. 883 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:56,190 Now I thank you so much for that. 884 00:44:56,190 --> 00:44:57,210 It's wonderful. 885 00:44:57,630 --> 00:44:58,770 Thank you for the afternoon. 886 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,220 I'd love for you to share with us right now. 887 00:45:02,250 --> 00:45:03,930 What else you do with your life? 888 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,360 Talk a little bit about your professional career. 889 00:45:07,190 --> 00:45:09,800 Well, I get to work with a lot of women because 890 00:45:09,830 --> 00:45:10,490 of my husband, 891 00:45:10,490 --> 00:45:11,540 Jerry Perlstein. 892 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,430 I have a unique agency that offers health life long-term care, 893 00:45:16,730 --> 00:45:21,770 disability and retirement programs to people who are independent entrepreneurs, 894 00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:23,300 sole practitioners, 895 00:45:23,330 --> 00:45:28,790 artists, and I have a particular passion that every woman should 896 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,890 have her own long-term care insurance life and long-term care insurance. 897 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,190 And so I go out among women, 898 00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,360 seeing what they do, 899 00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:43,850 seeing how we can keep them safe and give them the 900 00:45:43,850 --> 00:45:46,310 cash they need for a long and wonderful life. 901 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:49,820 Someone wanted to know more about you from that angle, 902 00:45:49,820 --> 00:45:50,600 where should they go? 903 00:45:51,170 --> 00:45:53,150 They can go to our website, 904 00:45:53,180 --> 00:45:56,540 J Pearlstein ltd.com. 905 00:45:57,010 --> 00:46:02,060 They can email me our bloomfield@jpearlsteinltp.com. 906 00:46:02,450 --> 00:46:06,470 And I'd be happy to talk about how a woman gets 907 00:46:06,470 --> 00:46:08,660 her purpose and keeps it going. 908 00:46:09,410 --> 00:46:11,270 Go, thank you so much. 909 00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:15,770 I think this was so important because I love the part 910 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,000 of lady bird story, 911 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520 where she discovered that she needed a purpose in the first 912 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:23,090 place. And then she kept defining it and revising it as 913 00:46:23,090 --> 00:46:24,530 things happened in her life. 914 00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:28,340 But she always still seemed to have that beacon of purpose. 915 00:46:28,340 --> 00:46:30,200 And that's what drove her the whole way. 916 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,900 It's a great message for us gift biz listeners. 917 00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:36,350 I challenge you to think and to really be able to 918 00:46:36,350 --> 00:46:39,530 very concretely define what is your purpose, 919 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,470 because we can all accomplish great things here. 920 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:43,340 And Rebecca, 921 00:46:43,340 --> 00:46:45,980 you have accomplished great things in portraying these women. 922 00:46:46,220 --> 00:46:48,620 We know them in a whole different way now than we 923 00:46:48,620 --> 00:46:51,650 might have by reading a little story here or there. 924 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:54,110 You've really brought for sure lady bird, 925 00:46:54,110 --> 00:46:55,850 as well as the others to life for us. 926 00:46:56,720 --> 00:46:57,200 Thank you. 927 00:46:57,380 --> 00:46:58,550 That's my purpose. 928 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,660 There you go. 929 00:47:00,230 --> 00:47:01,220 Thank you once again, 930 00:47:01,220 --> 00:47:03,410 Rebecca Bye-bye thank you. 931 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,290 This episode is all wrapped up, 932 00:47:06,380 --> 00:47:07,520 but fortunately, 933 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,740 your gift biz journey continues. 934 00:47:09,860 --> 00:47:11,540 Are you eager to learn more? 935 00:47:11,690 --> 00:47:15,320 Our gift biz gal has a free download just for you. 936 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:19,070 Head over to gift biz on wrapped.com/twelve 937 00:47:19,070 --> 00:47:22,370 steps to get your copy of the 12 steps to starting 938 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:26,150 a profitable gift biz don't delay head over to gift biz 939 00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:28,250 on wrapped.com/twelve 940 00:47:28,250 --> 00:47:29,120 steps today. 941 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,330 And until next time happy business crafting.