Well, hello, I'm Matt Edmundson and you are listening to
the E commerce podcast. You know what? Since 2002, really long
time, I've been building, selling and yes, occasionally failing
at online business. I love creating unique equity partnerships
with e commerce brands and helping them grow from where they
are to where they want to be. That's what I do now on a day to
day basis. So I want to learn about e commerce as much as you and
to do that every week I get to chat with great guests just like
Omer. I'm a to have you on the show, man. Tell us a little bit about
yourself, where you're from, what you do and all that good stuff.
Thank you for having me. My name is Omer, originally from Israel,
and for the past decade I'm in Asia. I cannot believe I'm saying
a decade. I sound so old.
You sound old. I've been doing e Commerce since 2002. That makes
me feel really old.
Yeah, it's older, I have to say.
Brilliant. So yeah, for the past decade you've been living in
Asia.
So it started by traveling and long story short, I help brands to
source profitable products from Asia, China, Vietnam, India,
Japan and many other countries. We help in all the process
of supplier finding, sourcing, quality control. Yeah.
Wow, that sounds like fun. I mean, how, if I can ask, how old
were you when you started traveling to Asia? Did you sort of
have the travel bug, sort of fresh out of uni and then you just
kind of got caught in it?
So I've never been in university beside learning Chinese
in the university in China, but I was, I think I was 23 years
old, I'm not sure. And I've been backpacking in Asia and actually
when I came back to Israel to prepare for university, I decided
I want to go to China to learn Chinese. And after a year in China,
before I, before I was supposed to come back to Israel to
university, I've. I've been thinking, wait, if I'm already in
China and I know to speak Chinese, do I really need to go back
to university? Or maybe I can just start, you know, grinding and.
Yeah.
Wow, fantastic. I don't come across many people who deliberately
and intentionally learn to speak Chinese. That's quite a unique
form of grit. I have a very good friend of mine, she's like my
adopted sister. She's lovely, she's British, but she's also Chinese
and she tries to teach me Chinese and I fail miserably. So
the fact that you have done that, I think is remarkable. Good
on you for doing that.
Yeah, well, the reason I studied Chinese, so I was thinking,
should I go to learn Chinese or Japanese? And Japan sounds very
expensive. So eventually I decided to go with China. Yeah. And
by the way, I was one of the worst student in the class back then.
Right.
But I think I'm the only one in from my class back then that's
still actually doing business in China. I guess it's all about
practicing.
Yeah, I guess it is. I guess it is, because I. And this is where
I think, you know, when it comes to sourcing products from China
Freecom businesses, I know a few people that seem to have cracked
it in whatever business they're in. But I know that it still
scares a whole bunch of people because it's not just the language,
it's the culture barrier that exist between obviously the west
and the east, between Asia and between, you know, the sort of America's,
Britain's, Australia's type. I mean, Australia and New Zealand are
a little bit unique, aren't they? Because I suppose they're quite
close to Asia. So I think they've understood the culture of
dealing with Asia a lot more. What are some of the things that
you find are quite consistently bad from Western companies
when it comes to understanding Asian culture and get in our heads
around a few key principles before we start trying to source
products from there.
So I guess the worst thing that Western people do is thinking
like Western, you know, so they approach to a Chinese person
or Japanese or whatever. And, and they think that whatever they
will say, the Chinese person will understand it as they would
understand it not not only in like the language, I mean, the meaning,
the subtext. And so this is, I guess the biggest mistake. And, and
because I don't think I can teach someone in one hour or even
one year how to think like a Chinese or Japanese or whatever.
Probably the biggest tip I can give is assume they don't understand
you and you don't understand them. And if this will be your assumption,
you will probably avoid most of the misunderstanding.
Okay, yeah, it sounds remarkably straightforward, Omer,
but I get why you would say that, because I think certainly in
Britain, you know, if we, a general response is if you don't
understand, we'll say the same thing slower and louder because surely
then you'll understand. If I say the same thing slower and louder,
you will understand, which is obviously not the true. And I think
there's, there's a lot to be said for this cross cultural understanding,
which I think you, you miss a lot of the subtleties of how is,
how is it at the moment in terms of trading with Asia? I'm kind
of curious about this because at the time of recording we've had,
you know, the announcement from the Trump administration about
tariffs and we can, you know, political politics aside, I, you
know, there's obviously some issue with international trading
in the States. What's the sort of thinking there, you know, in Asia
with the, with the tariffs And I guess more importantly, if I can
ask you, what are the opportunities there for us as e commerce
entrepreneurs to be thinking about?
Right. So like you said, politics aside, it's going to affect
a lot of businesses and you say Asia but like to be honest, it's
mostly going to impact people that source from China. Not in Asia,
not from Asia in general. And I've been lucky because during COVID
few years back when China, you know, like in one day everything
got locked, locked down like the factories and everything. And
back then I, I remember I got a little bit scared because my old
business was based on China. And back then I decided I'm going
to start learning how to do sourcing from outside of China. Though
it's little bit complex because before this I was living
in China for a few years. I was speaking Chinese and new countries
is totally new things. But back then I decided I'm going to
do this. And now when this whole tariff thing came up for me,
it's actually a big opportunity because I'm, for the
past few years I'm traveling around Japan, Vietnam and other countries
and I know how to source from all of these kind of countries. So
for me it's a big opportunity because all of the customers that
source from China and suddenly got scared and they're looking for
suppliers outside. I can provide it. So for me it's a good
opportunity and I guess that anyone that, that is ready to explore
new country might find some good opportunities in there. But
it's also important not to, you know how to say it, not to do
your next step out of panic because during COVID many, many companies
try to find quickly suppliers outside of China. And then when Vietnam
got locked down China, the Chinese factories were opening. So
we also need to remember that in many cases China are still going
to be the best option. Okay. So like don't force yourself to find
suppliers outside of China, but you do need to explore maybe
the product I'm making in China, I can make it outside of China
better or cheaper or more unique. And if so, you definitely
have to go and look for this opportunity because you can Save
money and you can be the competition. It's really interesting
just to understand like if now menu making the same product in China
and selling it in the USA and I was quick enough to find a supplier
in India that can make the same product in a, in a cheaper price
and we both sent to the USA and I don't have the tariff, I'm
going to earn and make more money than you on the same product.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, it's interesting you say that because
years ago, I'm going back 2000, 2006, we had a business that
sold from a place called Jersey. Now, Jersey to the Brits
is a small island off the north coast of France. Okay. It's
kind of, it's independently British is the best way. Now, how
to describe Jersey? So Jersey wasn't necessarily subject to the
tax rules that the UK was. And at the time, it's different now,
but at the time there was a VATS advantage. So VAT is sales tax.
So when you shipped products from Jersey with a value, I think
it was less than £20 from memory. If you shipped goods less
than £20 from Jersey to the UK, you didn't have to charge the
customer VAT. Okay. Now, bearing in mind our sales tax is
20%. So still more than the tariffs. Well, maybe about the same
as the tariffs Trump will put on Chinese products. But we had this
tax that we didn't have to pay shipping from Jersey that somebody
from the UK did have, if that makes sense. So we could be 20% cheaper
than our competitors and still make the same profit. And so for,
I think it was probably for about three or four years, maybe
not that long. Maybe, maybe about three or four years, we took
a, we were able to take advantage of this tax differential
and it helped us become much more profitable than our competitors
because we either sold at the same price, made more profit, or
we sold at a cheaper price, still probably made more profit,
but was still cheaper than our competitors. I mean, ethics aside
about, you know, is that a good thing or a bad thing? It's just
a thing in the free market economy. And I kind of feel now with
the tariff situation that Trump is introducing, there is what
I would call a Jersey moment, whereby if, like you say, if you
can source products, the same product, the same quality, etcetera,
but somehow ship that in effect tariff free, you can take
advantage of that. And we created a business of rapid growth
during those years that I don't think we would have been able
to do had we have not had that advantage.
Right. So it's definitely an opportunity. But like I said before
and they want to say again, I don't tell people don't buy from
China now because of the tariff. There are many products.
I think most of the products China probably is still going to
be the most attractive in term of variety and pricing and how quickly
they can make the product. So just to understand, right now I'm
making products in Japan. I'm in Japan at the moment. The lead
time to make product is six months. In China, it would be probably
45 days. So it's not like go away from China. No, it's nothing
like this. And I think if, if you still need to look at the numbers.
Okay. And again, in many cases you will find out China is more attractive
even with the tariff. Even if the, if Trump will increase the tariff
again, China will still be attractive. But I do think it's a
good opportunity for brands to explore countries beside China. Again,
not just because of the tariffs. The tariff should be the
opportunity. There are different qualities, more unique
products, maybe customization you can do. So I do think everyone
should explore it, assuming you see yourself in the game for
long term, you know, just for a few months. Because it's a process
that take time.
Yeah, that's true. That's. It's very sage advice, isn't it?
Because, and I love what you said here about learning from COVID
You know, everybody panicked during COVID and you know, so they
went to Vietnam. Vietnam then shut down. And I can see a similar
sort of thing going on here whereby everyone leaves China to
go to Vietnam and then Trump interposes par tariffs on from Vietnam.
You know, he'll just sort of goes from one place. You just don't
know what's going to happen, do you? And so I like that. I mean,
we, the fact that we have that whole thing in quite recent living
memory with COVID means that we should definitely, you know, remember
that and learn from that. Which, which, which makes a lot of
sense. Makes a lot of sense. Omerr. Before we carry on, let me
just take a brief second, everybody listening to the show to
talk to you about something that is happening in both Australia
and New Zealand right now. We have, we have something called Cohort.
You may have heard me talk about this on the show before. Cohort
used to be a paid membership program. It's now, we don't charge
for it. It's just a, it's not even a membership. It's just like
a community, a group. And we are launching Cohort in Australia.
So if you're in the Australia, New Zealand part of the world and
would like to come and meet fellow e commerce entrepreneurs.
We just connect once a month online via Zoom and just chat. How
is it going? How's E commerce, what we all learned and share some
insights and stories. We would love to welcome you to that. Just
reach out to me@ecommercepodcast.net or just reach
out to me on LinkedIn. Go find me on LinkedIn @edmondson and I will
share with you the details. We would love to see you in that. So
yeah, do come and join us in that. Do you get to Australia much
Omerr? New Zealand or is it just you stay Japan, China, that
sort of belt.
So yeah, I've been in the past because I have some customers in
there. Actually I'm going to the UK once in a while. I have customers
in there also but for the past I think it's almost 15 months, 16
months, I'm not sure. I've been only in Asia, like I didn't
have time to go anywhere else.
Oh wow. Wow. Beautiful, beautiful people, beautiful food
in a beautiful part of the world.
Beautiful food, yeah, good food. This is the important part.
This is why I do this business, you know. Well, one long
time ago I had a friend that told me the reason you do business
in China is to finance your trips to Japan. And it's true. So
now, now I, I've been upgraded and now I also do business in Japan.
So I can food in Japan.
Fantastic. On that topic, you know, of the multiple different countries
in Asia and Japan is still on my bucket list. I'm not going to
lie. I've not managed to make it yet. But I, I've been to Malaysia,
I've been to Singapore, I've done a whole bunch of them. I've
not actually made it as far as Japan, but I will be there at some
point. The default thinking is still, I think for a lot of e commerce
entrepreneurs I need a product, I need it cheaper. So therefore
I need to source it from China. And like you said, most of
the time that makes a lot of sense. What are some of the countries
that people aren't thinking about that maybe we should, you know,
should we be thinking about say Thailand or Vietnam? If it's
clothing, should. Where are some of the other sort of the good
places to go to in Asia that we're perhaps not thinking about?
So I'll give a quick brief for some of the main countries. Okay,
so I will start with Japan and Japan is not going to be cheap at
any Rate. But in Japan, you might be able to make unique products
that no other country can make. And to me, with my experience,
I think that making a unique and good product can be sometimes
much more valuable than making cheaper product. So this is for Japan.
Korea is a cosmetics empire. So if you want to make a good cosmetic
brand, it's the right place. Yeah. Vietnam textile, plastic, some
metals and wood and bamboo. But Vietnam is a place for mass production.
So many products in China you need MOQ of 1,000 pieces minimum.
Other quantity in Vietnam, you're gonna need 5,000 pieces.
Okay.
Thailand, I have to say, and I've been in many factories in Thailand,
they can do some textile and stuff. But I still couldn't find
any, like, actual advantage in making products in Thailand because
every time when I compared it in China, China was better.
Right.
And India, it's definitely something people should look at a
wood product, electronics and other products. But again, each country
like this come with a whole lot of business culture and things
that are different from China. So just for example, production time
in India, it's kind of like they are giving you the time and
you hope it's going to be anywhere around this time. This is
just for example. So each country have some advantages and
opportunities and unique products. But I know I'm repeating
because I think it's the most important part. Eventually people
need to look for the best supplier that can provide the best
product in the best price. I don't think you should be looking
into a country, you should be looking into a supplier. And if you
find a supplier in China or Vietnam or India, go for it.
Yeah, yeah. No, again, sage advice. It's. It makes a lot of sense,
doesn't it? But. And I can see why businesses like yours, I might
do well, because I would look at that and I would go, I have no
idea. I have no idea about the culture. I have no idea about the
language. I don't know if I'm going to get ripped off. Like, am
I just pouring money into a black hole? Will the quality of the
product be good? I suppose one thing that I would, a big question
I would have in my head about dealing with China and we do deal
with Asia. I have to be honest with you. One of the big questions
always in the back of my head is to do rightly or wrongly is the
connection with child slave labor. Like, is there openness? Is
there transparent? How do I know what's going on in that factory?
How do I know they're not going to take my idea and copy it?
So there's a lot of, there's a lot of hurdles I have to overcome
before I think about getting manufacturing in China. Am I weird
or is that true for a lot of people? Are they sort of similar
barriers?
I think everybody think about these things now. I guess for child
abuse and slavery and stuff, it's very easy to check this stuff.
Like you can do factory audit and very quickly you can know who
is working in the factory, how many hours. And so there is a very
quick and easy solution for this, for copying your ideas. I have
to tell you that I think I stopped thinking about this long
ago because I do sourcing. But many times I also develop the products
and then suggest to my customers, which are companies and
brands. And I have to tell you that this is something I learned
actually from some big companies in the uk, very big ones,
I cannot say their name, but they don't spend a moment about thinking
if the Chinese supplier will copy them. They just keep innovating
and thinking about the next product. And yes, sometimes the Chinese
copy them. Yeah, it's happened. But you know, also your
competitor can copy you. Right. So I don't think it's the
right thing to spend time on will he copy me? And if it's really
important for you, do the patent or trademark or whatever.
But I believe that it's much better to, if you have an idea, find
the best supplier, push the product to the market as fast as
possible and hope that you will do good enough job, that even
if somebody will copy you, everyone will feel he is the copy
and you are the original.
Yeah, well, again, wise advice. I think that's true for I
think whether you order from China or whether you don't. Right.
Your competitors in fact are going to be copying you and you've
always got to think, push and innovate and so on and so forth.
It makes a lot of sense to do that. And if you're not doing that,
I think you've got some fundamental problems. Anyway, what
products do you see working well at the moment? What products
are coming out of Asia that actually starting to sell well online?
Because I know fidget spinners don't have the kudos that they, they
once had, for example. But what are some of the things that
are working.
Well? To me, I feel that because there are much more competition
now compared to before. Like every year you have more and more
E commerce sellers. Right. It doesn't matter on Amazon, Shopify,
whatever platform it is, I feel you have to be. It's not about
like what specific Products, you just have to be much more unique
these days to succeed. Like unless you have a lot of money, you
know, and you can really spend a lot on ads and then you don't have
to be unique because you have eyeballs on your product, but you
have, but if not, you need much better quality products or much
cheaper or much cheaper price on the product. And both things are
hard to get. Like if you, if every, if everybody got this, a certain
price and you want to be able to sell it in much cheaper price
and still to make money, it's going to be really hard to find the
right supplier. And if you want to be able to make much more
unique or special quality compared to other, it's also going
to be very hard. So I feel the time you need to spend today on finding
the right supplier and making the product in the right way, because
it's not only finding the supplier. Like you can find many
good supplier and they're going to make shitty quality. You
need to know how to do the quality control and stuff. I think
this is the way, I know it's not exactly what you asked, but this
is the way to be different and succeed. Because I don't think I
can point on a specific product and tell you, oh, now there
is this kind of textile or this kind of watch that. Because
every product that come out now with tick tock and everything,
after three months you're gonna see it everywhere.
Yep. Yeah, yeah. I love, I love this comment about, you know,
make it unique. That really resonates in the sense that I, for
a while, I don't see as much now, but for a while you came across
people who would try and sell the same product everybody else was
trying to sell out of China. Usually you go to some site like
Temu or Aliexpress or something like that and you would
buy a product, pick any random product, I don't know the plastic
widgets, and you would go, well, they cost 10 cents to make
and I can sell them for three bucks. Well, why would I not try
and sell those? But there was nothing unique about the, either
the product or the way that they were trying to sell it. And
everything was bland. It was like they just gone and got the same
template from Shopify and copied it like 10,000 other people
did and just use the same text that 10,000 other people did. And
there was nothing about them, there was nothing about their brand,
their voice, you know, their uniqueness, like that type of thing.
And it's interesting you say that because I think and it's not
just with products from, from Asia. I think it's just with e commerce
sites, full stop. There has to be something really unique about
that that differentiates you from Amazon, that differentiates
you from all the other commodities out there in, in the
world. And that enables you to really stand out in the consumer's
mind. And so it's interesting that you've, you've noticed that
as well, you know, with products coming over from China.
So it's not a definitive. Well, the fidget spinner has now
been replaced by the spinning fidget. I don't know. But it's, it's
more a case of actually whatever you do do something unique
and I, I really like that. How can you make and I'm assuming on,
on that then Omer that actually the factories in China,
in Vietnam or wherever, they are quite keen to work with you to
help you put your unique flavor and taste on it.
So it depends because the Chinese, the Chinese, they just want
to sell, they just want the cash and many times they will just
put you oh, these products sell very good buy this. They just
want the cash. Many times they don't think long term. This is specifically
for the Chinese. So I think it's actually, I really think you
need to understand it's your responsibility as a buyer to try
to come up with the unique thing. Don't ask the supplier how
can I make this more unique? And there are many people who ask
this. I will even say more. If you go to one of the trade shows
in China for example, and you will go to, you will ask the Chinese
supplier, why should I buy from you? Most of them will give
you the same answer because of our quality and price. Now most of
them going to say the same thing. So you just understand all
the pricing are the same, all the quality are the same. There is
nothing unique about this. Like for me, for the brands I'm working
with, our way to make it unique is really to take a product
and existing product and develop a much better, better product.
And when this is what you do and it takes a lot of time, it takes
a lot of time. It takes time to find the right supplier. You need
to make sample and again and again. But when you do it, you are
really unique. And by the way, you don't need to be worried about
somebody copy you because when you actually develop a product it's
really hard to copy you. And even if somebody succeed to copy
you, it's gonna take him about six months or one year just to get
to the same quality or the same design. So for me, I think trying
to invest more in product development is the right way to be
unique these days. Of course there are more ways. Sometimes you
can be unique just by giving a great customer service. But I think
I assume that most of the listener here are not huge companies,
huge corporation that have the money to invest in great customer
service or a lot of paid ads and stuff. So sometime if you're
going to take the extra two or three months to develop the product,
little bit more to make it to be more unique, once you launch it,
you're going to have much more heaven time. I think there is a phrase
like this in Amazon that they promote you. So it's the same like
you're going to develop a product and you're going to have
longer time that nobody can compete with you and you're probably
going to be able to sell your price in your product in higher price
because it's the only product in the market. Is it have this specific
design or feature or whatever?
Yeah, no, I love it. Love that. I love that phrase, heaven
time. I think that's a great phrase. So it's your responsibility
then as the founder, the owner of the business to make sure that
the product development is done right and done well. A quick
shout out to the episode I did with Norm Farrar. He talks about
how he does this for his process, how he improves a product,
actually he takes a standard product and how he makes it better.
If you want to go check that out, just go onto the website ecommercepodcast.net
search for the episode with Norm, who is a great guy. And you'll
enjoy that episode. I have no doubt whatsoever. I'm curious, right?
There's people going to be listening to the show that is getting
started in E. Com. There are people like me that have been around
a little while. You know, you've got a wide range of listeners.
One of the questions I can hear, you know, the people asking,
I try and think about the questions that maybe listeners would
ask if they were sat here. What are the advantages maybe of
giving you a call and using you to help me with this problem
versus trying to do it myself versus the costs. I mean, everyone's
always, you know, concerned about money and costs and things
like that. So there's going to be a. What we like to call in economic
terms, a cost benefit analysis is the official term. I think so
I'm curious, how would you answer that question?
Right. So I would say that my average customer makes at least 1
million annually and at least this is really the minimum. And I
say this because maybe in some cases it's not the best decision
to work with somebody like this. Like if you're a beginner and
you know you have a very small budget, do it yourself. I try to
post some content on YouTube and Instagram and LinkedIn. You can
watch, you can learn. Do it yourself. I think you should work
with company like me and with a person like me when, number one,
you have time constraint, like you're a big company and time is
more important than money and I can save you a lot of time. Or
when you're trying to make something unique that you probably
don't have the skill to make by yourself, I think you should work
with me if you need the results. And it's not just about
the budget. I do think, and I really say this, that if you're in
the phase where, in the phase in your business, that budget is
the most important thing. There are many things you can do
by yourself. You don't have to pay for everything. Right. Most of
the business owners in the, in the beginning, they probably going
to do the marketing by themselves. It's all good. Later
when they will grow, they will probably pay to a company to do it.
So I think it's kind of the same here.
Yeah, yeah, very, very, very sensible, sensible approach. So really
the cutoff then is about a million turnover. So if you're doing
a million a year as a bare minimum, then you can think like
you say, if time is important to you, then, you know, give Omerr
a ring. I think it's a big. You say you've put out content to
help someone who's just starting out to do it themselves
on your YouTube channel and so on and so forth. We will of course
have the links to that, hopefully. Omerr in the show notes,
if we've done our job correctly and you can obviously go
and watch those to your heart's content, which, which would
be great. So let me sort of bring this, bring this background
a little bit. We're talking to you. We've got a unique product.
We're sourcing it from somewhere in Asia to sell in our
country, obviously keeping an eye on things like tariffs and so
on stuff. I mean, to be fair, you know, the tariffs effect that
the U.S. they don't. We. It doesn't really affect me in the uk,
you know, we, we have our trade agreements with China. I don't
see Keir Starman changing those at any point in the near future.
So it's. I think I, I appreciate that. It's more a US issue.
Where do you think it's all going Omerr, over the next five years,
what's your sort of prediction for the west dealing with the east
in terms of supply of these types of products? Are we still going
to be doing it because it's cheaper or better or higher quality?
Do you, do you see the roadmap of development in Asia and think
actually it's still a pretty safe bet? I'm kind of curious where
you see it all going.
Well, I need to be honest because I'm not. I am like keeping
an eye on the future but I try not to make assumptions that based
on nothing basically because so I do try to look at processes
that already happening and I can only assume probably going to
keep happen. So for example, the distance between the end user
to the factory going to get shorter and this is a process that
already happening. Like in the past six years ago, a customer in
the USA end user in the USA would be buying from the shop, that
would be buy from the distributor, that will be buying
from the importer, buy from a trading company in China that would
buy from a factory and this distance already got shortened shorter.
Okay. So I guess this process is going to keep going and I see
more and more factories starting to sell to the end user,
which is a bad news for probably most of the businesses because
if you are an Amazon seller or an E Commerce seller and right now
you buy from a factory and you sell to the end user and the factory
going to start sell directly to the end user, you might have a
problem. So this is something that's already happening and I can
only assume it's going to keep happening. And so I think this is
one thing people really should focus on and just I'm getting back
to what I said before. Make a unique product, develop a product.
Because if you are, if you make your own product, it doesn't
matter if a factory going to sell directly to the end user, it's
your product. But if you just buy and sell, you know, like regular
stock, the normal items that everybody can buy, you're going to
have a problem. I think.
Yeah, that's fascinating and I get it and I why would factories
not sell direct to consumer? Right. We see it all the time over
here in this country, so why would they not? I think there's still
going to be an opportunity for people like me to bridge the culture
gap, if you see what I mean in the sense that going back to what
we said at the start of the show, I think a few Companies like
banggood and TEMU have managed to make it so that I actually feel
kind of confident buying a product off their website. But I
think there's always going to be that uncertainty where if I could
get the same product from a local website, would I be more likely
to buy. It's an interesting question, isn't it, about sort of
world economics and where it's all going. But I'm intrigued by that.
I'm a listen. This is the part of the show, good sir, where I ask
you for a question for me. So this is where I've been doing this
for a little while. If you're new to the show, welcome, by the
way, it's great to have you. But for a while I've been saying
to my guests, can you please give me a question which I will then
go and answer on LinkedIn? I will put the answer to this question
on LinkedIn. But Omer, what's your question for me?
So you've been probably dealing with suppliers in Asia and
China specifically for a while, because you do it for many
years. Tell me, what was your biggest disaster, if there was any.
Working with a Chinese supplier.
Biggest disaster working with a Chinese supplier. Very good, very
good. Well, I will answer that question on LinkedIn and if I remember,
I'll also tell you my biggest disaster working with an American
supplier. That was much more. That was much bigger, actually, which
is ironic. But yeah, I will. I will be posting the answer to that
question on LinkedIn, if you don't follow me already. Come follow
me. LinkedIn Madmanson. But I'm a listen. Really appreciate you
man. Appreciate you coming on and sharing the insights and thoughts
that you have and your expertise about the whole thing.
If people do want to reach out to you, if they've got maybe more
questions, looking for a little bit more advice. Maybe I've
not asked the question that they wanted answering, but they're
burning to ask it anyway. Or maybe they want to work with you.
What's the best way to reach out? What's the best way to connect?
Can DM me on Instagram or LinkedIn and we can schedule a quick
call.
Fantastic. And of course, we will put those links to your Instagram
and to your LinkedIn in the show notes, which you can get along
for free. Get along for free, along with the transcripts, the show
notes and all that sort of stuff for free on the website ecommercepodcast.net
of course, you can just scroll down in your podcast player and the
links will be in there. We'll put the links in the YouTube description
if you're watching this on YouTube as well. But do reach out
to Omerr. I'm sure sure he would love to hear from you. I'm
a listen man, really, like I say, really appreciate it. It genuinely
great. Loved every minute on it of it. Thank you for coming on
and share. I've learned a lot actually. I've got some notes here.
I've got some questions for our team as well, which is always
good. But thanks for coming on man. Genuinely really appreciate
it.
Thank you for having me. Thank you for your time.