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Speaker:right, today we're talking about a big hot
Speaker:topic right now. AI.
Speaker:Artificial intelligence. No, not the
Speaker:Jude Law and Haley Joel Osmond movie from like,
Speaker:2030 years ago. Although that movie is slept
Speaker:on. I love that movie. That movie was cool.
Speaker:That was heartbreaking at the end. No spoilers. I mean, it's
Speaker:20 odd years. It's not a spoiler. No, we're
Speaker:talking about AI, and particularly AI
Speaker:in the context of you and your membership business.
Speaker:Everyone is talking about AI. There's been such
Speaker:huge developments over recent years, particularly within the last
Speaker:twelve months. Some of those developments are extremely exciting,
Speaker:some are pretty problematic, some are the stuff of
Speaker:apocalyptic nightmares. But however you feel about
Speaker:AI, there's definitely no sign of it slowing down. But what does that mean
Speaker:for you as a membership site owner in real terms?
Speaker:So in this episode, I don't want to do what everyone else who's
Speaker:out there talking about AI is doing and
Speaker:run down all the reasons why. It's amazing. It's a game
Speaker:changer or ten ways to use AI. Ten
Speaker:ideas for this. Instead, I want to get a little bit more
Speaker:real with you and talk about, okay, how should you be
Speaker:feeling? How should you be reacting? Should you be panicking?
Speaker:Should you be changing your business model? Does AI mean the
Speaker:end of online education or
Speaker:memberships or courses? Should you be betting the house
Speaker:on AI or should you be burying your head in the sand and hoping that
Speaker:it passes by? Is it just another fad? Well,
Speaker:the reason why a lot of these questions are coming up
Speaker:and we literally get questions from people like, should I be panicking? Is my
Speaker:membership dead? Is there any point starting a membership if everything is going to be
Speaker:AI driven? And you are probably seeing
Speaker:constant emails and social media posts telling you about
Speaker:how AI should be your absolute number one focus and how it's
Speaker:going to completely change absolutely everything about everything that you're
Speaker:doing. So many news headlines about jobs being
Speaker:instantly replaced by AI. And so,
Speaker:understandably, people aren't sure what they should be doing. Like
Speaker:regular everyday people aren't sure how they should be thinking or reacting.
Speaker:So to all of that, for all the noise, all the hullabaloo, all of the
Speaker:panic inducing clickbait, first thing I would say is
Speaker:don't panic and don't get too sucked into the
Speaker:hype. This happens every time marketers
Speaker:find the next big thing. Nine times out of ten, the
Speaker:next big thing is a big old nothing burger. AI
Speaker:isn't that. AI actually is a big thing,
Speaker:but that's just making marketers even worse. I mean,
Speaker:you saw it, right, when everyone was on Twitter and in your
Speaker:inbox telling you that you and your business had to adapt
Speaker:to cryptocurrency or you were dead in the water.
Speaker:Do you remember that? Do you also remember when everyone was telling you that
Speaker:if your business didn't pivot to start offering
Speaker:NFTs, it was going to be left behind? Do you remember
Speaker:that? Are you thinking, hang on. Oh, yeah,
Speaker:NFTs. I remember that few months where they were actually a
Speaker:thing. Remember when everyone was telling you that your
Speaker:membership needs to move to the metaverse?
Speaker:Even Mark Zuckerberg doesn't care about the metaverse. Now, you
Speaker:should remember all this because it was only a year or two ago. This happens
Speaker:all the time. Marketers keep doing this. Now, the
Speaker:AI boom isn't going to go the way of NFTs. It's not
Speaker:going to go the way of crypto. It's not going to go the way of
Speaker:the metaverse. It's real. It's bigger than that. It's
Speaker:definitely different from those other things. But its impact on your member business
Speaker:is being similarly overblown by
Speaker:run of the mill marketers who are already
Speaker:positioning themselves as AI experts or
Speaker:experts on AI for business. The amount
Speaker:of people who were up on the keynote stage
Speaker:a year or two ago at social media conferences and marketing
Speaker:conferences, talking about NFTs, talking about the
Speaker:metaverse, who this year are up there
Speaker:talking about AI.
Speaker:It's just something that we have to deal with. Now, that doesn't mean you shouldn't
Speaker:take AI seriously. You should. It doesn't
Speaker:make it a fad. It's not. But
Speaker:you must have seen all these posts. They
Speaker:must be using chat GPT to write these posts where it's like
Speaker:99% of people are using chat GPT. Wrong. Here's how you can
Speaker:be part of the 1%. Yeah, and
Speaker:you've got thousands and thousands of people writing the exact same
Speaker:promotional content anyway, so
Speaker:calm down. If you're panicking about AI, if you're
Speaker:wondering whether it means you've got to totally change your vision for your
Speaker:membership, you're wondering whether your great idea for your membership
Speaker:is even worth bothering with. What's the point of starting a business in
Speaker:anything that isn't AI? Don't get carried
Speaker:away. Don't let marketers in particular,
Speaker:and blogs and newspapers and
Speaker:everyone who is really, really pushing this.
Speaker:Don't let them shake you. Don't panic.
Speaker:Don't throw out something perfectly solid with your
Speaker:membership to go in some unknown direction
Speaker:that is AI centric. So let's talk about what people are
Speaker:actually using AI for in business right now.
Speaker:Right now, the most common practical applications of AI as it
Speaker:relates to most online businesses are
Speaker:using it to come up with ideas for content or to actually create
Speaker:that content. Now, that's not all AI can do, not by any
Speaker:stretch of the imagination. And chat GPT, which is
Speaker:the one you've probably heard of, the one everyone talks about, that's not the only
Speaker:AI tool that there is. It's just one.
Speaker:Now, a lot of people are just using it for content or for research
Speaker:or for ideas. And when you
Speaker:do see the marketers, send you emails and send social media
Speaker:posts telling you how they're going to show you.
Speaker:Join my webinar and learn how AI is going to revolutionize
Speaker:your business. Basically,
Speaker:it just boils down to getting you to use AI to write your blog posts
Speaker:or your email subject lines. So the way most
Speaker:people that you're probably seen out there raving about AI, the way they're using it
Speaker:or teaching it, is still pretty narrow in terms of what
Speaker:it can do and not helping
Speaker:it is the fact that pretty much every other piece of software or tool
Speaker:that's out there is rushing to add in an AI
Speaker:component. But when you actually look at what those features are,
Speaker:again, it ends up just being use our shiny new built in AI
Speaker:tool to come up with ideas for blogs. The rush to
Speaker:capitalize on AI is leading to a lot of pointless and
Speaker:generic stuff, and it's leading to a lot of
Speaker:pointless and generic content. So while the
Speaker:idea of having AI write your content for you might be
Speaker:appealing, it is already resulting in a lot of very samey
Speaker:mediocre content being published because everyone has the same
Speaker:idea. And also the content that's created
Speaker:is actually quite inaccurate a lot of the time and requires a lot of
Speaker:checking and correction. Now, as membership owners, most of us are trading
Speaker:on our specialist expertise. So having AI write content
Speaker:around specialized subjects can result in very,
Speaker:very mixed outcomes. The important
Speaker:thing with this, even if you follow the crowd and you just start using
Speaker:chat GBT to write your blog posts, you just have to
Speaker:remember these are just tools. It's just a tool.
Speaker:But because it's this exciting, brand new thing,
Speaker:people are turning that solution into a problem.
Speaker:They're giving themselves that problem to solve, where they're like, okay,
Speaker:where can we use AI in our business? And then they go and
Speaker:try and answer that question, rather than using AI being the
Speaker:answer to the question. So they're saying, how do we use AI in our
Speaker:business? As opposed to looking at the
Speaker:existing challenges and problems they have and asking,
Speaker:could AI be the solution to this problem? We have
Speaker:identified for a lot of people, AI is a solution
Speaker:looking for a problem. Or in other words, it's not something they
Speaker:actually need. It's something you've lived without.
Speaker:It's something you could continue to live without.
Speaker:You've got to remember, it's just a tool. You use it to fix something.
Speaker:You use it to address a problem. You don't make it
Speaker:the problem, you don't make your top priority. Let's try and find
Speaker:a way to use this cool new AI thing. So
Speaker:this episode is basically just should just be like titled just
Speaker:calm down about AI a little bit,
Speaker:understandable people, get excited, get a bit carried away, because it is cool. It
Speaker:is like magic. I won't lie. Like every time
Speaker:I've used an AI driven tool as a big old
Speaker:nerdy tech person, my jaw hits the floor every time. It's like actual
Speaker:magic. Now, in terms of how AI is
Speaker:used, as I've said, the way most people are talking about it,
Speaker:they are conflating AI with chat GBT
Speaker:and most typically chat GBT for writing
Speaker:stuff. That's just such a tiny little fragment
Speaker:of what AI can be used for, like content creation and
Speaker:ideation is what's getting the most focus, because
Speaker:it does feel like magic. Having something created from nothing to literally just
Speaker:type in, write a 1000 word
Speaker:blog article about how mushrooms are
Speaker:amazing, and it just writes
Speaker:it. It just creates it. The
Speaker:very first thing I had Chad GPT do was write a
Speaker:poem about the famous wrestler Stone Cold. Steve
Speaker:Austin going to buy a bagel
Speaker:just because I wanted to throw something completely random and
Speaker:it was magic, it made sense, it
Speaker:rhymed, it was clever, it was pithy, it was good.
Speaker:So no wonder it's getting the most focus. Same
Speaker:with image generation. Although people aren't finding
Speaker:most people are just like, isn't that really cool? Show me a picture,
Speaker:know Santa Claus skateboarding on the moon. They're just using
Speaker:it because they can, because it's fun, right? And it feels like magic having that
Speaker:stuff created. But actually the more exciting applications of AI from
Speaker:a business point of view, from a membership point of view, are in other things
Speaker:like using AI to create transcripts or automatically generate podcast,
Speaker:show notes and video summaries. Being able to use AI to
Speaker:replicate your voice and actually create audio from
Speaker:text that sounds exactly like you.
Speaker:We occasionally use a tool called Descript
Speaker:for edits on some audio, we have an editor who
Speaker:actually edits the podcast in general. But for other stuff, like
Speaker:if we're taking little audio snippets that we're going to turn into animated
Speaker:videos for TikTok, I'll just do myself
Speaker:in Descript. Now, I've taught Descript what my voice sounds
Speaker:like. It basically had me read a chapter from Alice in Wonderland
Speaker:and their AI can be used so that
Speaker:if I just feed it some text, it will speak out,
Speaker:that text in my voice. Now,
Speaker:you'll probably notice a little bit of the difference. It'll be flat in some areas,
Speaker:there won't be the inflection in others and stuff like that. But man,
Speaker:it is scary and it is magical and it is
Speaker:impressive and it's exciting. So much more exciting than just,
Speaker:hey, can you write me some social media posts about how great email
Speaker:marketing is? There's a lot of exciting applications of AI
Speaker:out there that are still relatively young,
Speaker:that are still early stage, but that are
Speaker:going to enable amazing things. Like there could come a
Speaker:day where this podcast
Speaker:could be entirely written. I could pay someone to write for
Speaker:me. I could then take that and feed that into an AI
Speaker:tool which speaks it in my voice and 99% of
Speaker:you won't be any of the wiser. Now, I did consider whether I do the
Speaker:really smug smiley thing and do that for
Speaker:this podcast episode, but man,
Speaker:the thing that's missing is the human element. I like being on
Speaker:this podcast. I like sitting with a mic and just shooting
Speaker:off and having some little notes and just going for it.
Speaker:AI can't do that. AI doesn't have that human
Speaker:element, that ability to improvise that
Speaker:feeling of enjoyment when they're talking, when they get into a flow.
Speaker:And I think that shows. I think there's a little uncanny
Speaker:valley element creeping through into
Speaker:AI generated content. Videos, images, text, audio,
Speaker:whatever. But yeah, stuff like that. And
Speaker:also things like chatbots, AI driven chatbots. AI is making
Speaker:chatbots a lot smarter. AI powered
Speaker:search, obviously the main search engines like
Speaker:Google, Microsoft, whatever, they're using AI now to inform
Speaker:or they're going to be more focused on using AI to inform search
Speaker:results. Now that could be impacting traffic to your
Speaker:website because it's another way that they're going
Speaker:to keep people on the search engine, keep people in Google
Speaker:rather than them clicking off to somewhere else because hey, why
Speaker:click through this website with a full article when our AI can just give you
Speaker:that answer? So that's a challenge we're all going to have to face and that's
Speaker:why you're going to want to look into other content outlets that don't
Speaker:rely on Google podcasting, video, social,
Speaker:that sort of stuff. But there's also
Speaker:tools that can use AI to empower the search side
Speaker:of things on your membership. There's
Speaker:AI functionality where someone on your
Speaker:membership can search for a question and the
Speaker:AI will look at the content you've created
Speaker:in your membership and use that to provide
Speaker:basically the answer that you would give them based on
Speaker:the knowledge, based on the stuff that's inside your membership. Still a little hit and
Speaker:miss some of these tools.
Speaker:It's coming out that actually the answers are partly
Speaker:based on your content, but it's also pulling stuff in from third parties, which kind
Speaker:of goes against the whole point of it, but they're getting there, right?
Speaker:These kind of things are far more exciting for membership owners than just having Chat
Speaker:JBT write you some generic email content that's probably
Speaker:only 50% accurate and doesn't fit your tone of your
Speaker:brand. But of course, just because these exciting and useful tools are out
Speaker:there doesn't mean you should bend over backwards to implement them just because you want
Speaker:to find some way to use AI in your membership. Again,
Speaker:these are just tools, they should be used as such, which is to
Speaker:say they should be used to solve actual problems, not just for
Speaker:the novelty factor. If you find yourself scratching your head trying to
Speaker:figure out where AIpowered tools fit in your membership,
Speaker:then the good news is that there's probably not a huge need for them right
Speaker:now. Now of course, this is an area that's moving quickly
Speaker:and that is very, very vast. So for today's episode, I really just
Speaker:wanted it to be a bit of a sanity check on how membership owners
Speaker:should be viewing things and approaching AI. Particularly because
Speaker:of how much marketers are banging everyone over the head with it and
Speaker:making people think that their business will die
Speaker:within months if everything isn't suddenly running on
Speaker:AI. And all your blogs aren't being written by a robot. However,
Speaker:if you want to dive deeper into specific practical uses
Speaker:of AI within the membership world, the broader range
Speaker:of how AI might impact it, how things might change, then we
Speaker:actually recently published a blog series on AI. For
Speaker:memberships over at the Membership Geeks website, where we look at the
Speaker:impact of AI on the membership site industry. Looking at trends,
Speaker:looking at predictions. We looked at ways to improve membership site
Speaker:management with time saving AI tools, how to use
Speaker:AIpowered chat bots to improve membership engagement, how to
Speaker:use AI for efficient member onboarding and enhanced retention.
Speaker:And, of course, how membership owners can streamline content
Speaker:creation with AI. So this is a
Speaker:real in depth series that gives you a lot more of the
Speaker:meat of how to use it. The tools that you could be
Speaker:utilizing, where things might be going long term. Today was
Speaker:just really a leveler. It was a sanity check.
Speaker:It was the typical thing we like to do, taking the
Speaker:shine off all the nonsense that the marketers are putting out there, all the hype
Speaker:and the spin, and giving you the real perspective on
Speaker:where you should stand, where your head should be, how you should be thinking, how
Speaker:you should be reacting. So hopefully it's been useful for that. And if you want
Speaker:to dive deeper into our series on AI for memberships, go to
Speaker:membershipgeeks.com AI.
Speaker:Membershipgeeks.com AI. All
Speaker:right, I can put that soapbox away. Hopefully, you
Speaker:found today's episode useful. Hopefully it's calmed you down a bit if you've been losing
Speaker:sleep about the rise of the robots, of course, this is a fast changing world,
Speaker:so no doubt I'll be back again in another two or three weeks in cancel
Speaker:everything I just said and bow down to our new mechanical
Speaker:overlords. But hopefully it won't come about that
Speaker:soon, because we've got a lot more tips and advice to give you from the
Speaker:wonderful world of memberships. And I'll be back again with another installment
Speaker:of the Membership Geeks podcast very soon to do just that. Hope you