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Yes.

is a very.

Exciting day, cuz we're gonna announce the winner of our Lillian pops artwork contest, but

So in the meantime, keep all that excitement boiling bubbling up in

How are you doing girl?

I am good.

You know, we're like in, I just feel like the year starts, the summer ends.

We're like in the race of it.

All right.

It just happens so quickly.

Wedding season, I think is officially done.

I think I attended my last wedding

Mmm.

of the season.

Which is, you know, both sad and a little bit of a relief.

yes,

right.

Gotta say it both could exist at the same time.

I love my friends, but I've been pretty good.

Although, you know, Trey and I, we took a couple weeks off cuz I was

And so I gotta say it.

I do miss you when we Donn, don't get to record as frequently as usual.

I know it is interesting.

Like when we began this journey, I didn't really think about much of the like weekly impact.

When you go into business with someone, it really is a true relationship.

So when we aren't in constant contact, it does feel like, oh, what's happening in the world.

I know it's a strange feeling, so I'm glad that we're.

said that people come into our lives.

Do you know where

for a reason.

My, did I not go to TIS school?

The arts it's wicked for good.

In fact, I went to the Hollywood bowl one time.

To see Kristen Chenoweth.

And she does this whole stick where she pulls someone from the audience

And so allegedly, she randomly pulls this girl from the audience who just happened

And she was great and I was there and then it went viral

I was gonna say, I've seen that.

Oh, you

Yeah, I was there.

I was like, actually there.

I thought she looked familiar.

Wow.

Chelsey, you really did a good job singing with her.

Oh, thank you.

Oh my goodness.

You recognized me.

Oh yes.

I can't!' imagine, but it wasn't me.

It was this other chick who congratulations to

Congratulations to her.

but because it's been so long, try since we've spoken and I Donn Donn.

Don't know if I'm like cutting you off because I didn't really get to hear your catch up, but I've

All right.

Well, why Donn?

Yeah, let's do it.

Why Donn?

Don't you start Chelsey.

Do you wanna go ahead and

Lodge Complaint.

I do I have a Complaint to Lodge?

Yes, I do.

So I wanna talk about shady auto subscriptions.

And what I mean is I've gone on your website to purchase an item for the first time.

Never bought it before, and somehow I become.

Auto subscribed to like a monthly ordering of this item.

I Donn I'm like deciding whether or not I wanna put this company on blast or not.

They're like a vitamin company.

no idea.

Okay.

So I ordered these vitamins for like focus and energy and something, right.

Like, like I said, getting back into the rat race, so I need a little

So I got these vitamins and I definitely didn't go through.

The month supply in the first month, cuz I wasn't taking it every day and then

Like you've been charged for like your monthly subscription.

Yeah.

And I was just so annoyed cuz it's one thing if like.

You sometimes like on shoey for example, they'll say like, you can save, you know,

Right.

But then like, but then you're like pressing a button for this.

There was no pressing of a button.

I never signed up for anything.

All I did is put it in my cart and order it.

And then now it was on auto ship.

That's obnoxious.

Yeah.

I, I wonder if it was like a random, tiny PRT option.

I'm sure it was a tiny print thing, but if it's like a tiny print and it's

That's shady.

Obviously you are doing this because you're trying to get people to just get stuck in

And then their entire house is like covered in vitamin bottles and

And they're like credit cards are maxed out.

I mean, it's just no good.

I, I feel like I was aware, but I, it happened to me with landscaped where they

And it's like, I don't really like, I'm sure that I probably knew what I was signing up for.

Cuz it was cheaper, but I Donn don't recall it.

And like I eventually had to like cancel it cause I'm like, I don't need this.

I don't need blades

need this many.

I know.

Yeah, well, there nothing feels good about feeling P duped or not fully disclosed.

You

Yeah.

And it's just like, I think the question is at the end of the day, like, is it worth your reputation?

for the amount of money that you make by duping people.

It's like the gym membership thing where it's like, they make it

And you're like, okay, well like good for you.

You like ed people out of all this money, but are you sleeping well at the end of

And if you are, then I don't really wanna support your company.

I've also noticed, cuz there's a couple of apps that like, I really enjoy.

They're like subscription based apps.

And so it's like, if you want to experience this for a month at this rate, click here

And then it's like a year subscription at like the actual rate.

right.

Which is like double the price.

I know.

So obnoxious, truly

Well, I hear you.

That is very frustrating.

We need full transparency when it comes to subscriptions.

Ugh.

Come on.

Don't like it.

All right.

Trey.

How about you?

What's going on in your week?

Have you like been collecting complaints in our hiatus?

Yeah.

You know, I do feel like as long as people are breathing, there is

to complain about.

Yeah.

But actually I'm gonna, um, step aside today, because we have.

Listener voice.

Oh my God.

Yay.

is from super listener, Stacey B, who we have mentioned

And I want to specifically, before we even listen to the voicemail, I want to go ahead

I incorrectly said the handle.

The last time we talked about Stacy, and then if you wanna go to their website to purchase

But let's go ahead and listen to what Stacy has to complain about.

Okay.

I can't wait.

Hello, this is Stacy from South Carolina, and I would like to Lodge a Complaint.

Um, in recent months I have had quite a number of doctor's appointments for me and my children in.

Almost every single one.

I get a message, a text message or an email a day or so before that says, please arrive

Now this really pisses me off because we scheduled this appointment months to a year ago.

And you told me to be there at 8:00 AM.

Now you're telling me 24 hours in advance or so to come in 30 minutes before my scheduled time.

Why, if you want me there at seven 30 instead of eight, then tell me to be there at seven 30.

And what really irritates me is that I get there at seven 30 and then I'm sitting

So I'm sitting there for 30 minutes wasting my morning.

At the doctor's office.

And that's what I'm doing currently right now is I'm waiting in my car.

As my daughter goes into her appointment and she arrives 30 minutes early and she's sitting

So I would just like to say, if doctor's offices want you there at

I don't want you to tell me a day or two in advance to come earlier to your appointment.

That's really annoying and it's really inconsiderate and I'm sure they have all

I really don't care.

So anyway, that's my Complaint.

And I have been holding onto this Complaint for quite a while, and I just needed

So, anyway, thank y'all so much.

Bye.

Bye.

Ugh, Stacy, I love you so much.

First of all, this is giving me very, very like Jenny

Yes.

I thought of that too.

vibes.

We had another listener Complaint from Jenny who talked about the patient portal.

Mm-hmm

I will say like really good point, Stacy, because they should have told

And they did say to me on the time, like, we're gonna need you there half an hour early.

So I was like, great.

So I'm gonna write down that I have a seven 30 appointment then cuz you

And she was like, yeah.

I do wish that they would just say it like your appointment.

Like we need you at the office at seven 30.

You'll see the doctor at eight from seven 30 to eight.

We just need to make sure you're here and like, get you all checked in.

And then, you know what I mean?

Like, just call it what it is.

Well, I, I love that Stacy is calling in the present

I it's funny cuz Stacy addresses it in the Complaint, but I, my first thought was

But if they've already sent it, then I do feel like this half hour is just to

But now I'm hearing in both you and Stacy Chelsey.

these early morning appointments.

I wonder if they tell these early morning people to come early so that it doesn't throw

Prep maybe.

people are always late.

People are always

think that, I mean, my dad's a dentist and so like, it really

Is late and then he's like sitting there waiting and then it just

God forbid the doctor has to.

That just made me so mad.

why did I, dad just got so mad about that.

they do have a full day.

Oh my God.

That made me so mad Chelsey.

Why did I get so

I don't know,

I mean, I understand.

I

that.

Um, there are humans as well as doctors anyway.

their job.

Keep going.

Yeah.

But they shouldn't have to wait.

I Donn.

I mean, I Donn don't think, I don't think showing up late to an appointment is like

Correct.

I really think that it's important for doctor's appointments to get on time.

I always get to my doctor's appointments early

Earlier than seven 30, or like, do you get there earlier than half an hour or earlier

I do, like when I have a doctor's appointment, if I have to be there at seven

Yeah.

I had a roommate who was like super irresponsible and was really hard for him to

And then like, be surprised when they were like, I'm sorry, we can't see you.

Like,

That's crazy.

did you think you were just gonna stroll on in there an hour late?

And they were gonna be like, right this way, sir?

Like what

I also, like, I don't think of going to the doctor in the morning.

I Donn don't like doing anything in the morning, especially waking up, but I,

Well, the thing about these doctor's appointments, which I think Stacy was bringing up,

Months.

So like I had, it didn't matter what time I wanted to go.

Like I was going whenever there was an appointment available.

Well, I was thinking that too specifically, it's like a double Complaint

So Stacy has to, and now we're in this, you know, disease time of her lives, where

So Stacy has to sit in the car.

So that's another half hour of sitting doing nothing on top of the appointment.

Like, I definitely hear that.

That's definitely frustrating.

I am someone who is always afraid of being late, so I'm always early.

So I don't know.

It doesn't really bother me that much.

The half hour.

I love having some quiet time to myself, but if it was at seven 30, I

think it's the, I also think it's the kids factor.

You know what I mean?

Like getting children out of the house.

That's tough.

Yeah.

To just have a 30 minute buffer is

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then like, you're schlepping them and you're, they're complaining and you're dealing with

You know what I mean?

Like, cuz kids are just, I'm sorry, I'm not projecting onto your children, Stacy.

I'm sure your kids are lovely, but kids do like to Kvetch, you know?

That is tough.

Yeah.

Their whole, yeah, that's tough.

I mean, I wonder how many people are late for the half hour buffer, cuz if it was a 15 minute

I feel like people would just disregard that to me.

The idea of coming half an hour early is like a big

there very well might be a psychological component, but I think that

But that they had this appointment, like months out.

And then the day before they were like, by the way, remember when you like planned

need you to

Actually we need you at seven 30, which like, that's just annoying when

So Stacy, I hear you.

I'm all fired up with you.

I Donn don't like last minute changes, period.

You

That's really frustrating.

know, great Complaint,

Stacy.

Yeah.

I mean, listeners be like Stacy, if you're in the car and like you're having a real time

1 8, 5, 0 review, zero.

Do whatever you want, complain about whatever you want.

Well, that's the biggest takeaway there.

I love that Stacy filled that half hour by calling the review Queens.

I think you all should do that the next time.

You're just waiting.

Call us.

Everybody likes to be able to Kvetch sometimes.

And this is a voicemail that you can literally just call it a Kvetch.

So please take advantage.

And speaking of kvetching,

Ooh, should we do it?

Should we jump into some online reviews?

think we should.

Let's go.

Review That Review.

As you know, we are your trustee review Queens.

We bring in reviews from the internet that we feel need to be inspected.

We read you a review, then we break it down and we rate the impact of the

This is a very Regal process that we call.

That's right.

So, Trey, what have you got for us today?

Hold on.

I really have, I have to pee really bad.

Hold on.

Okay.

Wait, is that okay?

Hold on.

Oh, yes.

Pee before.

Yeah.

I'm trying to think if I have a story for you guys.

Oh, my God, he's a witch.

What happened?

Oh my God.

It's wicked.

Was that why you were singing for good?

Oh my God.

Trey is stressed.

Like from wicked.

He has green hands.

Oh my God.

I'm a little, you know, that I'm afraid of like everything.

Woo

Wow.

ChelseyBD Chelsey today.

I have a One-Star-Zinger Yelp

okay.

for wicked the musical on Broadway.

my

Woo.

I didn't have to pee.

I was putting on this costume.

Wow.

Trey, you've out done yourself.

I love it.

I mean, I love that you brought it in, in the beginning and I had no

We had that Kristin Chenoweth chat moment.

Really impressive.

you can't even see the top of the hat.

Okay.

That's better.

Trey.

Like how are these like wicked gloves that are like so nice with the nails?

made the, this was our Halloween costume a couple of years ago.

Oh, That's right.

That's right.

Um, this is I'm wearing my earphone upside down.

these are nailed, uh, gloves that I

Oh my God.

I dyed them green to match the Mac Chrome, a cake makeup

Wow.

anyway, back to the point.

Okay.

So today I'm gonna share with you this, uh, review from Valerie w for the musical wicked.

Now Valerie wrote.

Over 10 years ago.

All right.

I, I probably, I saw it when it first came out, so I definitely look, I've seen that cast probably.

So if anyone doesn't know what wicked the musical is, It's been

Yes.

I think it opened in October of 2003 and it's basically a prequel to the wizard of Oz.

So it's imagining that the wicked witch of the west is the protagonist and actually isn't evil.

So it's their tagline, I think for many years was what happened before

Okay.

So here we go.

This is Valerie W's One-Star-Zinger Yelp review for the musical wicked, who knew that

Wow.

Yeah, I didn't, I think this is my first Yelp Broadway show review.

I can't wait.

Here we go.

I alright.

I would like to stress something.

This show did caps not receive good reviews when it first opened, it was

It also did not win the Tony award for best musical and for good reason, it's

But as a piece of musical theater, it's garbage,

What.

the music is in my opinion, pretty awful.

The songs, mostly the green witches are over belted to the point of being shrieky.

I felt like I was being yelled at the entire time.

It's a primarily pop score, but not nearly on the same level of

Or even some of Andrew Lloyd Weber's work the lyrics range from amusingly clever parentheses,

I'm not that girl dancing through life.

The humor consists of snappy one liners, some of which are cringeworthy parenthesis.

Wands, do they need a point Hardy har har you'll probably get some laughs.

However, I expect more from a drama than laughs.

That's not satisfying to me, especially when everything else is pretty bland.

The show takes itself so seriously while trying to be funny at the same time.

Pick a tone, please.

The story is poorly written.

Their friendship is not well developed.

They sing about how they're best friends and how they've supposedly been changed

See it.

They bond over two or three scenes and that's it.

The rest of the drama is based on a horrible love triangle.

If the friendship is supposed to be the heart of the show and it's not developed

Also.

I didn't find the quote unquote twists.

Particularly clever.

It felt like most of them were cop outs.

Parentheses.

That didn't happen.

This happened when they should have been more cleverly woven into the

In fact, some of them are total plot holes.

But I won't spoil anything.

Dot, dot, dot.do do, do dot what can I say?

You'll probably go see it because everyone's seeing it.

Sometimes.

It's good to experience certain shows once just to be in the loop, but Donn

Wow.

Trey way to hit the note.

Valerie.

Valerie did not like it.

I, I very much disagree.

I think I've seen wicked probably like 10 times.

mm-hmm really.

Yeah, because I, I started NYU in 2004 and it was, yes,

And so anytime anyone came to visit, they wanted to see wicked.

So I did the lottery all the time and I really like it.

I think it's a great show.

I Donn don't remember.

Maybe you now try.

So it is based on a book called wicked, right?

by Gregory and McGuire the life and times of the wicked witch of the west.

I think

So like a lot of, I mean, I didn't read the book, so I can't really speak

So it's like, it sounds like Valerie wants the story itself to be focused in

But the reality is at the end of the day, this is an adaptation of another work,

correct.

right?

So that's like one place where I feel.

I don't know, Valerie, I don't really know.

I, I just, I'm curious what Valerie's expectations were going in.

I also, maybe again, could be me, but I don't think of lay MIS as being a pop score, nor

Well, they were pop

back.

But this is like a more, much more modern pop.

Wouldn't you say, especially in terms of like the belting and all of that that's going on,

That was like the whole Shick

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, I, I think one could make a point that we couldn't have gotten too wicked

A hundred percent agree.

I mean, that's the, I think, yes, we couldn't have had any modern musical

However, we're not comparing apples to apples here when we're bringing.

When we're bringing up angel Lloyd Weber, like, I don't know.

It just really makes me wonder what Valerie was expecting.

And also just like, if I didn't know what the, so it's 10 years ago and I decided to

Is there a lot of value here?

It does feel very complainy, you know,

Well, it's interesting to me because I think Valerie opening

mm-hmm,

with this anger that it did not win best musical and that it

I think that Valerie already has an opinion, um, about the cultural phenomenon versus what

What they're saying?

Masterful musical theater.

Art

Do you recall that being the case

Yes.

you do that it didn't get great reviews in the.

Oh yeah.

I mean, it was like very famously, not a hit, but then it became a hit.

Well, it was like a hit, but yeah, it was very much panned by many critics over.

Cause I loved it.

And I think again, where Valerie lost me is there are so many things about

Like for example, areas where they did win the Tony, I believe costumes stunning.

Mm-hmm

The talent was like really great.

The singing I'm sure.

Even 10 years ago, like anytime I've ever seen the show, the singing has always been amazing.

I just tend to believe you less when you're just on a Complaint, train for something

Like obviously people.

All agree with you.

Otherwise the show wouldn't still be, you know, showing on Broadway.

Like it doesn't make any sense that you're going so hard on wicked when it's

So leave a little bit of space for that.

You know, like,

Well, it's funny to me because here, so wicked actually

It got 10 Tony nominations.

It only won for best actress in a musical best

Kristen or, or Adena.

ad Manzel, but they were both nominated and, and leading actress.

Yeah.

Eugene Lee won for best scenic design and then Susan

Right.

There are just things to compliment also.

Is it a drama?

I, I don't know if you could say it's a drama.

Songs like popular.

So, you know, like there are a lot of songs that are much more musical theater

I mean, I'm just, I'm a little confused with the expectation here.

I think you're right.

And that Valerie went in a little bit sour because it's not, not bad.

So I'm very intrigued by this review because I remember when wicked came out

I did see wicked, like in the week that Broadway returned post COVID and.

It is interesting to see cuz I do think, I, I remember there is, uh, there was a storyline

And there was a big conversation about that because this was like a new score.

It was like sorta, I mean, it's like a new story.

It's not based on a movie per se, but it is kind of based on a.

Film, but it's its own original concept.

It's not like Footloose the musical.

So there was a lot of back and forth about what will Broadway become now that

So then I think people had some opinions and anytime an art form is going through an evolution.

I think it happened.

Rent which Edina Menzel was also in, it also happened recently with Hamilton where people are

I think people that are purists are gonna be upset.

And I think that the point about a pop score belated, I think people are gonna hate on

So,

That perhaps it is over belted.

Why, why is everything?

So belty why I don't know it's thrilling.

So I love it.

I've watched, I've sat in the seats three times, but I have watched wicked on

Myself in a mirror, like I have consumed wicked so much.

Do I think it's a masterpiece in theater?

No.

Do I think it's offensive?

No, I did think it was offensive in 2003, cuz I

you did.

purist, but also it's sort of like who cares?

write this?

I'm Valerie

Are you Valerie?

I'm Valerie, as I'm dressed up as.

There is a conceit.

And I think that Valerie probably has the opinion that if this is not a masterpiece

And I would imagine if you're looking up reviews on Yelp, you might not be

And so like, it is interesting that she's come here to say, people think

Right.

but it.

Is it the right forum?

And that she's so resigned at the end that it's like,

I know, you know what I was just thinking, as you were talking about sort of

Era, you know what I mean?

And there was something very exciting about being able to see someone live,

See these like incredible vocal talents, just slaying eight shows a week, which is hat

And I do think that.

Was a big part of the spectacle.

This show is a Broadway spectacle through and through from the sets to the costumes,

Yeah.

And it's interesting on this American idol conversation, because when we just saw it,

Yeah.

we saw the main actress for act one.

And then during intermission, she could not continue with the show.

So then we saw another person playing alphabet in act two, which in itself is thrilling, but

Yeah.

yeah, I think your point here is sort of like what's wrong about bringing people

I mean, I'd much rather see wicked than.

Minions the musical or something, you know?

And then this whole thing about like the friendship.

I remember when the revival of miss Saigon happened, like, I was like, wait, like they

Like.

That's so unbelievable, but it's also like they have to become friends in order to get the

of disbelief.

The story has to continue.

Like we can't spend three hours on them becoming friends.

You have to just like buy into it.

Yeah, and I, yeah, I agree.

And I, I don't really agree with all the, the holes.

I, I think we can't be there all day.

You know what I mean?

We see, we see that like Glenda anda meet each other and they're like immediately, like they hate

You know, so I Donn know, I, I think I'm just really struggling here because I've seen this

I just Donn don't.

I think that it's very off putting, so I'm trying to.

See if I'm being too biased.

And if there's anything I can put aside here to Assess some sort of value in this review.

Well, speaking of value, I I'm curious if Valerie doesn't like the show and

So Valerie, instead of saying, in my opinion, it's garbage.

I just want you to know that the consensus, when this first came out

So it's not just my opinion.

People also thought that it did not win best musical avenue Q won at win it.

So like, this is bad,

But I'm very allergic to that kind of

Well, we all know that awards, even the Oscars, it's all political.

None of it's real.

None of it makes sense.

Like they, it doesn't

yeah, I do think it's a little bit of like, okay, cool.

So like, you wanna be like my opinion matters and it matters because it's in line with the Tony's.

Right.

I Donn don't know.

I feel like if I saw that, I, I, I do think that Valerie's coming armed with information.

I mean, like if you were gonna go and you wanted to know what won the Olivia.

Yeah,

Then, like, maybe it is interesting to know this was not accepted or this was

And I'm a tourist, but it feels to me.

Phantom or cats, like back in the day, it's like the lion king, like when you

You just see

time that represent Broadway.

And I think that wicked still is that I think wicked is the new

It's like, you know, you want to go see That's because it's.

Become transcendent of the genre.

So this is an interesting point of view.

I think there's value to hearing that someone really thinks it's garbage.

You know, I don't know.

Every review is an opinion.

So like

it's true.

as far as spelling and grammar, it's pretty great.

There's not really any dings there.

The truthful shady, I mean, it's hard

Yeah.

cuz I think there's aspects of both.

I

I think that they're obviously telling their truth.

Their truth just is shady,

Well, they're gathering truth from the past and sprinkling it, it in with,

Just don't expect a masterpiece.

Like you could read that as being shady, or you could read that as sort of being kind to

Yeah.

That's a, yeah, that's a good.

But the overall feeling of this review from Valerie does feel a little shady.

Like if you don't like it that much.

Great.

You know,

Right.

Yeah.

It feels a little heavy handed.

it's also interesting to me, there is no suggestion for what to see in

right.

And that's where, that's what I meant when I was saying, like, in terms of the

I don't know if I will feel the same way, but I know that Valerie felt this way.

So do you think that there's humor here?

Like, was it entertaining?

I had a couple of chuckles.

Um, I chuckled, but I didn't, I think it was more because I was looking at

I really, I think that Valerie was like angry and, and took to Yelp.

All right.

So should we talk about impact in our crown.

Yeah.

I think I'm ready to crown Valerie.

Oh, I think I am too.

All right.

So Chelsey and I each have our own set of zero to five Chrome cards.

in an effort to be fair, not influenced by one another.

We will sign simultaneously reveal our raving.

We're off to see the wizard.

The.

Are Tabulating to school.

hold on.

It's hard with my nails.

Okay.

Trey is holding up three and a half crowns.

I am holding up two crowns.

I Donn Donn two crowns, cuz mostly because I vastly disagree with Valerie.

And I don't know that she's doing, you know, justice to the consumer of the review, which

I think we were a little bit.

Blinded by our own style, our own taste, which is valid, you know, which is,

The reason why I went with the two crowns or awarded the two crowns,

But it was a point you kind of made towards the end.

So, you know, when, like there's a movie.

It's out or something like that, or a show for that matter.

And everyone's like, oh my God, you have to see this.

You have to see this.

You have to see this.

Sometimes it's good to have somebody that's like, eh, it wasn't that good.

Cuz it kind of like takes it down a peg so that when you see it, you

I feel like.

Maybe Valerie w is like a little bit of like an Alchemist, um, in terms of

So maybe if I was reading through reviews that were raving, raving, raving, and then I read

Expectation head space when I was going to see the show.

So I think maybe that's worth two crowns and, and that was where they came from for me.

Why three and a half from you?

So I went with three and a half because

I, I, I'm not sure what the intention was for Valerie.

or the audience Valerie's intending to reach because it's like so random for me to imagine

Like when I found this, like, I don't even remember how I found it.

It's so random.

were there other reviews?

Yes actually.

And a couple of other ones I considered reading, but I thought that this was

And part of the three and a half here for me is that Valerie came with a cultural understanding

It's not just like, this is stupid.

You know, there was like a little bit of intentionality around being articulate

But on a personal level, I feel like maybe the test of time.

Has proven that like perhaps the Tony award doesn't really matter, but also I think

Emmy television specials and people feel this way about Grammy award artists.

It's like people get very passionate about art forms that they consume.

And I think ultimately at the end of the day, I think American idol has really had an impact on

But at least this is a book musical that characters go through journeys and.

It's thrilling.

I mean, at the end of the day, you're gonna see a very talented person doing

And the story is fascinating.

And I think it's fun to see a spectacle.

Of course, we wanna see a spectacle, like spend money and see C That's on Broadway rather than

You know?

So I say three and a half, because I think it's interesting to see.

This could be someone's first step into Broadway musical theater.

And then you can have a little context, like, oh, I really liked this cuz

Maybe there's other, yeah.

that I can explore as I get older and I want to develop this passion in life, or

Like I think there's something beautiful to being a gateway musical.

So I said three and a half because I think it's just showing everyone has a subjective opinion.

Objective subjective, everyone.

It doesn't matter.

It's a musical go support.

Musical theater, go support artists.

And Valerie w you're funny.

you funny, Valerie,

funny girl, you were so upset about

you are so upset.

That's a girl in green face paint girl.

It ain't that deep.

You so mad.

You went home and you started writing on

oh my goodness.

and that person just she's washing green out of her hair.

Use silly goose.

She's got green in her

The dedication to the green paint.

That's a lot.

It's a lot.

We should really thank all the S out there.

if you've played, thank you.

If you've auditioned many times fora, thank you to you too.

I hope your voice is okay.

And we're all very excited for the wicked movie out in the

yes, indeed.

first time I feel my kid.

That was a very wicked turn here on this show.

Why Donn don't we take some of this Valerie w evil energy and flip it around because we've

Chelsey.

Who are you inducting today for?

My Royal line.

It's sort of funny to me cuz Trey and I, we really don't talk about

So I had no idea that Trey was gonna bring in wicked today

Are you doing Mullan Rouge?

Because

No, I am not, it's not VLANs chill.

So I lived in New York for a while.

I went to NYU, as we know, and it stayed a few years after.

So I was there seven years and admittedly, there's not like too much

But the things that I miss are Broadway.

Mm-hmm

bagels and pizza.

And I have a really hard time finding like good New York style pizza in LA.

In fact, when I went back east, I was like, I gotta get great pizza and I didn't even make

Okay.

But then I was at my friend Steph's house and we ordered in pizza from this place called Mona Lisa.

Kitchen and it's in Los Angeles.

And Steph had told me like, this is good New York style pizza.

And I was like, I'll believe it when I try it.

And I tried it and it was delicious.

It was so good.

Mona Lisa kitchen, finally, a place in LA where I can get New York style pizza.

Ugh.

I've been here for a decade and I've yet to find a place until very recently.

And so I, along with the Deum, my friend Steph and her husband, Chris, wanna nominate

And I just wanted to take a quick second to read actually a short review that Steph wrote on Yelp

So.

Yeah, right.

So Stephanie D said stopped by here Sunday for some pizza while I was walking down Melrose, I

I'm an east coaster and I've struggled to find New York style pizza in LA.

This place did not disappoint will absolutely be back again.

And again, and she just posted this already.

Two usefuls and one.

Cool.

So

Wow.

other people are out here in LA craving this New York style pizza.

And finally, thanks to Mona Lisa.

Kitchen who has nearly all five stars.

We finally have it.

So thank you, Mona Lisa kitchen.

I'm I'm already deciding when I'm gonna go back and get more, cuz I, I just, I love it.

And you're great.

And I'm inducting Mona Lisa kitchen, along with step and Chris as my Royal Highness this week.

Yes.

that must be like the highest compliment, especially if

Can you imagine the impact of that?

I hope so.

I hope that they appreciate.

what do you think distinguishes like New York pizza over anything else?

Like what is the quality.

Okay.

Oh God.

So many things.

So the first of all, it's the crust and like the bread.

It can't be, we don't a thin like brick oven.

That's more of a California pizza, which I like a thin brick oven moment.

I'm not like saying I Donn don't, but it's not new New York pizza.

New York pizza.

The crust is still thin.

It can't be too thick.

Gotta have that.

Perfect fold.

Gotta fold

yeah.

In half.

Yeah.

Right.

So it can't be too thick.

Cuz then you're getting too big of a bite and it has to have the right ratio of sauce to cheese.

Mm,

Right.

Gotta have that right.

Not too much sauce.

Not too little.

Generally speaking, I'd say you can't have too much cheese, but this the ratio of sauce to

Ugh.

Just perfect run.

Don't walk to Mona Lisa kitchen guys.

sounds the same to me as bagels too.

Cause I know it's like the

Yeah.

with which the.

Bagel, uh, like bread is made is like what makes the difference between

Oh my God.

I got a bad bagel in LA.

The other day.

You guys are not gonna put anyone a blast, but O.

Well, I think that it's time now that we're speaking of Royal highnesses ChelseyBD

I would be honored.

Would you happily do the drum roll please?

The winner is.

James Donn again, better known as at James Donna Graham, which is a pretty clever Instagram name.

He did an excellent job.

Check out our Instagram.

We will repost James' entry and James, we got some merch.

We got some special gifts.

We got lots of stuff coming towards you.

Thank.

Everyone who submitted an, an entry.

We, we had some tough contenders there, but at the end of the day, James D you pulled

So thank you for indulging us in this fun

Yes, and I cannot wait actually for the Birch cause it's so funny.

Oh my

I'm so excited.

Congratulations.

And thank you for

Yes.

Congratulations, James.

We really do appreciate it.

Yes.

right, Queen.

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So on today's after show podcast, keeping with the theme of Mona Lisa kitchen, I thought

So we are gonna be reading a one.review from TripAdvisor of the Lou museum

I was literally wait.

I was literally like, Why, and then I remembered Muta Lisa lives.

Didn't get

So the connection.

it's live in Oz.

I Donn know anything about America.

That's

my God.

oh, Trey,

ah,

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Maybe Mona Lisa was watching wicked.

She's sort of like, Hmm, this wasn't that good.

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Oh my Valerie, please come and see it.

Maybe one more time.

I don't know.

Did you do you now recognize that I have green lights in the back?

I did.

I recognized that earlier, you really did.

All of a sudden, the whole scene was set.

When you entered in costume,

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