Our babysitter came by with her
Speaker:friend's puppy. It was like a 10 week old
Speaker:pug puppy. And it was perhaps the
Speaker:cutest thing I have ever seen in my life. And I didn't
Speaker:care. I think we probably don't talk enough about how you
Speaker:don't have to be in full crisis to ask for help, and you don't have
Speaker:to be in full crisis to need help. The world does not have to be
Speaker:on fire for you to need support. You can need support
Speaker:just by nature of needing support. All right, here we go.
Speaker:I'm going to pretend I'm pushing Record, because that feels right. Okay, I'm pressing Record.
Speaker:Boop. Hi, everybody. I'm Lauren Howard. I
Speaker:go by L2. Yes, you can call me L2. Everybody does.
Speaker:It's a long story. It's actually not that long a story, but we'll save it
Speaker:for another time. Welcome to Different, Not Broken, which
Speaker:is our podcast on exactly that. That there are a lot of people in
Speaker:this world walking around feeling broken. And the reality is you're different,
Speaker:and that's fine.
Speaker:I take one pill a day. I take one
Speaker:pill every single day. I call it my allergy
Speaker:medicine. It treats my allergy to
Speaker:other people and occasionally my husband.
Speaker:And it turns the light on when
Speaker:the world starts to turn gray, which is
Speaker:something that I have found in meeting some
Speaker:of my extended family and obviously my immediate family is like a thing
Speaker:that happens to us. It's like in all of us,
Speaker:one day we all wake up, we don't realize it, and
Speaker:the world has no color in it and the sun doesn't shine very
Speaker:bright and everything seems kind of miserable.
Speaker:But we don't realize because it's different than
Speaker:what you think of when you think of, I
Speaker:think, quote unquote, mental illness or
Speaker:depression. So if I say depression, you think
Speaker:crying all the time, unable to get out of bed, no motivation to do anything,
Speaker:missing work, giving up on things, feeling hopeless.
Speaker:And that's not ever what it was.
Speaker:There have been a few acute times in response to
Speaker:very specific situations where I have felt worse than that.
Speaker:I never miss work. I never
Speaker:called out. I didn't cry,
Speaker:I didn't feel sad. I just,
Speaker:like, would respond really harshly when people would talk to
Speaker:me and just feel really, like low key angry all the
Speaker:time. Like, I felt like I was getting, like I was just mad all the
Speaker:time. I would catch myself sometimes and go, like, why did that
Speaker:make me so mad? That was so benign. But I'm
Speaker:so mad. I think it was probably like,
Speaker:a solid 10 years of not realizing that that was not
Speaker:normal. It was just like there was nothing exciting. There was nothing to
Speaker:get excited about. I didn't look forward to anything. Everything
Speaker:felt like it was going to be a disappointment, and
Speaker:I did not go seek
Speaker:assistance for it because I realized the world
Speaker:was gray. I did it because we
Speaker:were about probably six months or a year into the pandemic,
Speaker:and I was having nightmares. Like, to me, very scary nightmares
Speaker:every night that I basically forgot my mask and
Speaker:infected everybody around me. And it was like every single
Speaker:night I would have the same nightmare that I forgot my mask. And, like, we
Speaker:were pretty well quarantined at that point. And we quarantined for a long time.
Speaker:And so it wasn't like I woke up and it was in any way
Speaker:resembling the life we were living. Just the stress of the pandemic and
Speaker:not knowing what was gonna happen and the way that I was working and being
Speaker:in a job that was not great for my soul at the time, and et
Speaker:cetera. I finally was like, these nightmares really are
Speaker:bad. And so I went and talked to a psychiatrist
Speaker:who asked me really rude questions, like,
Speaker:how many hours do you work a week? And
Speaker:do you think about work when you're not working? And I was like,
Speaker:I don't understand how either of those things are your business.
Speaker:Rude. She didn't like my answers to either
Speaker:of those questions, by the way. She's not pleased. But she did say,
Speaker:yeah, this sounds like you have an anxiety disorder. She said, that is pretty disruptive.
Speaker:You know, I basically said, my entire family is on Prozac, so can I
Speaker:just take Prozac? And she was like, sure. And that
Speaker:is true. We all, like. Even the dogs are on Prozac. That's not a
Speaker:joke. Well, actually, the dog that was on Prozac has since died. But, like,
Speaker:we had a very anxious dog, and the vet was like, prozac. And I was
Speaker:like, that's the family medication, so that's fine. That'll work. And it. It did help
Speaker:his anxiety, too. That dog would get anxious and literally
Speaker:unlock doors. Like, we
Speaker:found him running the neighborhood because he figured out how to work the
Speaker:deadbolt on the front door of the house.
Speaker:That's how anxious he was. Also, I get similarly
Speaker:anxious, so I get it. I could figure out how to work a deadbolt
Speaker:if I thought it would free me from my anxiety. A complicated deadbolt.
Speaker:As a human, at baseline, I can usually operate a deadbolt.
Speaker:Usually I'm kind of smart enough for that. But like, you could
Speaker:put like a complicated puzzle in front of me and be like, solve this and
Speaker:your anxiety will go away. And I'd be like, here you go. Thank you.
Speaker:So I get it. I do understand the dog. But also it got better with
Speaker:Prozac, which I also understand. The
Speaker:reason I talk about that specifically is because
Speaker:first off, she prescribed medication. I started taking it
Speaker:despite the fact that I'm a person who says all the time to
Speaker:people, if a doctor prescribes medication for you
Speaker:and you're supposed to be taking it, please take it. I'm not great at taking
Speaker:my own medication. And that has been an issue recently. And
Speaker:we're working on a system for that. That isn't my husband coming into my office
Speaker:every day going, did you take it? Because, yeah,
Speaker:that's been a thing. But I thought it was just taking it for anxiety
Speaker:really, because I was anxious and I was having these
Speaker:nightmares and I didn't want the nightmares to keep happening. But then I looked around
Speaker:and I realized, like, there's like this big
Speaker:star thing in the sky, like during the day and
Speaker:like, it makes the world like colorful.
Speaker:There's nothing beside the nighttime
Speaker:nightmares. That was the other catalyst to
Speaker:going, there's something wrong. Our babysitter
Speaker:came by with her friend's puppy.
Speaker:It was like a 10 week old pug puppy
Speaker:and it was perhaps the cutest thing I have ever
Speaker:seen in my life. And I didn't care.
Speaker:Like, I will run into the road in full on
Speaker:coming traffic to save a dog on the regular.
Speaker:And there was an exceptionally cute animal that
Speaker:I should have wanted to eat in front of me. And I was
Speaker:like, okay. And she was like,
Speaker:you don't want to play with the puppy. Because I like, I am a very
Speaker:reasonable person who has excellent
Speaker:impulse control and I would have 45 dogs if my husband
Speaker:let me. Like every time I walked past a puppy, I would be like, yes,
Speaker:bring it home. Yes. The fact that we only have two,
Speaker:and I say two, two individually
Speaker:160 pound dogs is like having 45 dogs. But
Speaker:also the fact that we only
Speaker:have two of them is a victory every day. Or a
Speaker:failure, depending on your take on the matter. I vacillate.
Speaker:But this puppy should have been like, I should have been like laying on the
Speaker:floor and just letting this dog climb all over me and chew on my face,
Speaker:giggling uncontrollably. Because that is the type of thing that I do when I am
Speaker:presented with a puppy. And I was just like,
Speaker:eh. That's when I realized I Was like,
Speaker:something's wrong. This is not normal. It was like everything
Speaker:inside was dull. It was like I knew that I should feel
Speaker:excitement. I just wasn't capable of it. So I started taking
Speaker:the medicine. And I did it because I thought I just had anxiety,
Speaker:which is fine. And there's been no question that I have anxiety.
Speaker:I've always had anxiety. Typically, my anxiety is what makes me good at
Speaker:things. Cause I can always, like, see down the road and see around the corner
Speaker:and predict things and make good decisions because of it. And
Speaker:occasionally it gets overwhelming. But for the
Speaker:most part, like, being an anxious person serves me very well, but
Speaker:this was not serving me well. But as a byproduct
Speaker:of that situation of trying to handle my
Speaker:anxiety, the world had color again. And
Speaker:I started laughing at things and I started
Speaker:making jokes that were funny and not just funny because
Speaker:they were uncomfortable. And I started looking forward
Speaker:to doing things with my kids again. And it has
Speaker:not made me eager to leave the house. Don't think, like, it's an
Speaker:antidepressant. It's not a miracle worker. Like, I still don't leave the house.
Speaker:But that's just like, my baseline personality. I knew it was working
Speaker:really well because we had planned our
Speaker:first vacation in a very long time. We were gonna drive up.
Speaker:This was like mid pandemic, so we didn't wanna get on a plane. And we
Speaker:were gonna drive up from Florida to Vermont, where we
Speaker:had rented a house, and we were gonna go play in the snow for two
Speaker:weeks. We were super excited about it. And my
Speaker:husband being my husband, we had planned to leave at X time.
Speaker:X time came and went. Then it was an hour later. Then it was another
Speaker:hour later. Then he's still putting things together. Then he decides at
Speaker:the last minute that he needs to wash the car. Because apparently you can't drive
Speaker:a dirty car. That's news to me. I did not know this.
Speaker:And then he had to check the windshield washer fluid, which
Speaker:made sense. But, like, don't you do that, like, in the days before
Speaker:you leave? Not. Anyway, so it was like a whole
Speaker:thing. And he was doing all
Speaker:of the things that he kind of very normally does, like that I can anticipate
Speaker:he's going to do that. Drive me fucking batshit. And I was
Speaker:just like, okay. And normally I would be, like, really
Speaker:annoyed and kicking and screaming and yelling at him
Speaker:to hurry up and talking about how we're three hours late
Speaker:and feeling so anxious about being late, because being late makes me so
Speaker:anxious. And I will say that the punctual
Speaker:spouse, who is married to the time blind spouse understands how
Speaker:people end up on Dateline. No question about that. But
Speaker:anyway, he was doing his thing, and I was just like,
Speaker:okay. And I didn't get angry, and I just kind
Speaker:of waded through it, and I was like, this is not the end of the
Speaker:world. This does not feel like this
Speaker:guy is falling down on me. And so I've had a couple of
Speaker:adjustments over the years, but it's still basically one pill a day. I didn't know
Speaker:there was anything wrong. It wasn't interfering with
Speaker:my life so much that anybody else would notice
Speaker:there was something wrong. But the world also had no color in it.
Speaker:And I didn't realize that. And I didn't look forward
Speaker:to anything. And everything was a chore,
Speaker:and everything felt like it could lead to the end of the
Speaker:world. That's being dramatic about being dramatic. But, like, that was
Speaker:the, you know, everything could merit that response.
Speaker:And I think we
Speaker:probably don't talk enough about how you don't have to be in full
Speaker:crisis to ask for help, and you don't have to be in full crisis
Speaker:to need help. I think we all
Speaker:spend a lot of time in crisis and dealing with
Speaker:dumpster fires and putting out one
Speaker:catastrophic thing after another that it feels
Speaker:like if things are just, like, not okay.
Speaker:That's not enough of a reason to ask for help. It's enough
Speaker:of a reason. It's more than enough of a reason.
Speaker:I could have lived probably a long time having nightmares
Speaker:and walking around in a world that was
Speaker:shades of gray, but not the good ones, because I didn't
Speaker:realize how. I didn't realize that wasn't normal
Speaker:because, like, I was still feeding my kids. I
Speaker:was still shown up to work every day,
Speaker:was still trusted with lots of important things, and I
Speaker:still needed somebody to intervene. And
Speaker:I think my brain's way of getting the help that it needed
Speaker:was to give me something I could not ignore, which was
Speaker:nightmares that were terrifying the shit out of me so that I finally went and
Speaker:did something about it. But the world does not have to be on
Speaker:fire for you to need support. You can need support just
Speaker:by nature of needing support. And if you are
Speaker:surrounded by people who make you feel like that's not
Speaker:a good enough reason, let's go find you some new people.
Speaker:You deserve support even when things are great. And I'm sure you give
Speaker:the support to other people, regardless how
Speaker:quote, unquote qualified it is. The world does not have to be on
Speaker:fire. For there to be a problem. And you don't have to be in
Speaker:full crisis to need things to be better.
Speaker:For this week's small talk again, remember, this is something we do every week. I
Speaker:don't know if I've been clear about this before, but fuck. J.K. rowling,
Speaker:I like to call her. Just Kidding Rowling. Because she's gotta be
Speaker:kidding fucking serious. It
Speaker:sucks because my kids love those books. Like, love them. And
Speaker:I loved them. I was only a little bit older than my oldest
Speaker:when they came out. So we have a rule that they can, like,
Speaker:consume the stories, but we don't pay for
Speaker:anything directly. So, like, they can have the stuff. As long
Speaker:as she gets none of our money. That's our rule.
Speaker:And my kids, we were at
Speaker:Universal not that long ago, and they obviously have tons of
Speaker:Harry Potter stuff everywhere. And my oldest comes
Speaker:up to me and goes, ma, if we were to buy this here,
Speaker:does that count as giving her money? And I said, yes. And she
Speaker:goes, ugh, I just really want a Gryffindor shirt.
Speaker:And I was like, we will buy a knockoff Gryffindor shirt on
Speaker:Etsy. Nobody's paying those licenses on Etsy. She was like,
Speaker:so I'm not allowed to have this wand? I'm like, nope, sorry.
Speaker:Like, she needs more stuff, right? Like, she doesn't have. She came up to me
Speaker:one day and was like, mom, there's a book I have not read, and I
Speaker:need a copy of it. I'm like, which one?
Speaker:She was like, it's Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone.
Speaker:And I was like, oh, sweetheart, no, that's the same book. I'm not buying you
Speaker:another one. She's nine. She's read
Speaker:six out of seven of the books in the last three weeks.
Speaker:I can't imagine what it's like to have a brain with this much space in
Speaker:it. She's so smart. But she comes up to me and she's like,
Speaker:mom, what color are Harry's eyes? And I'm like, sweetheart, I don't even know
Speaker:what color your dad's eyes are. Like, I have no idea. She
Speaker:was like, okay, you remember in book four when. And
Speaker:I'm like, I remember this big plot point over
Speaker:seven books. To be clear, I'm not talking about, like, I could tell you in
Speaker:what book this happened. I know that you meet Sirius in
Speaker:book three. I know that he dies in book five. But other than that, it's
Speaker:all like, so. She was like, okay, so in the middle of book
Speaker:four, when he walks into the blah, blah, blah, blah, and does the blah, blah,
Speaker:blah, blah. Do you remember if. And I'm like, no,
Speaker:no. I read them when I
Speaker:was a literal teenager. That was a long
Speaker:time ago. Now I have, like, it was enough
Speaker:time that I could create my own humans
Speaker:who can read the books that I read. Like, if you
Speaker:show me, like, a symbol from it, I can, like, usually clock
Speaker:it. I've never been here for details.
Speaker:Like, literally, like, I'm pretty sure my husband's eyes are brown. Thanks for being here,
Speaker:guys. Have a good day. Love you mean it.