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Speaker BWelcome to the Abundant Life Podcast, bringing you encouragement and challenging believers to spiritual change and growth by applying biblical principles to everyday life.
Speaker BAnd now your hosts, Sasso Mendez and Ben Arellano.
Speaker BWelcome, everybody, to the Abundant Live Podcast.
Speaker BThis is episode number 75.
Speaker BI am here with my good friend and faithful servant in the faith, Sasso Mendez.
Speaker AHey, Ben.
Speaker AWhat's going on?
Speaker AEpisode 75.
Speaker BWhat's up, brother?
Speaker BHow's it going?
Speaker ABeen a minute.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt has been a few minutes since our last episode of 74 with Aaron.
Speaker AIt's a different format because we don't have a guest today.
Speaker BWe don't.
Speaker BI've been trying to get a couple of guests on here, but it's just.
Speaker BI don't know, hasn't worked out, but hopefully they can still come on.
Speaker BI'd love to have them, but we'll see.
Speaker AI love to get Anthony on.
Speaker AI don't know if he's born again, though.
Speaker AI know he's in the process.
Speaker AHe's seeking, you know, but.
Speaker BWell, he's on three of the exchange.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo, I mean, he just finished.
Speaker AFinish three.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo tomorrow he would do four.
Speaker BIt's like, you know.
Speaker BWhat's his name?
Speaker AMusgrave.
Speaker BMusgrave.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHe's like, you know, if you make.
Speaker AThree, it's like you're an honorary Christian.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo he's.
Speaker BHe's right there.
Speaker AHe didn't get the degree, but.
Speaker AYeah, you're.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou got your GED for sure.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, I mean.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, he was asking a bunch of questions.
Speaker ALike, I think he's super close.
Speaker AIf he's not saved already.
Speaker BWell, it's interesting.
Speaker BI have him in group, and he's very knowledgeable, you know, but.
Speaker BBut anyway, man, so we've not had taco talk in a minute, so.
Speaker BNo, I know Today we enjoyed some.
Speaker BSome hamburgers together at.
Speaker BPretty good at Chili's, and it was a pretty good deal.
Speaker BI mean, they have that pick three deal.
Speaker ASinfully good.
Speaker BAnd what was really interesting to me, three for me.
Speaker BThe three.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThree for me and for 10.99.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd said 11.99.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker BWas it 11.99?
Speaker AThat's what it said, you know, But.
Speaker BI mean, with tip, it was 14 bucks.
Speaker BLike, you can't beat that.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI gave her, like, four bucks.
Speaker AShe's good.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNo, she did well.
Speaker BShe kept the, you know, everything filled up and stuff.
Speaker AShe kept Maybelline in business with all that makeup.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo time to leave Baker over There.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo anyway, I. I enjoyed it, but I thought it was interesting that the.
Speaker BThe chips that we had were only, like, halfway gone.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker AYeah, we didn't finish it.
Speaker BThat's probably because, you know, they brought our salad right in, you know, right away.
Speaker BAnd so we, you know, kind of munched on that.
Speaker BAnd then, yeah, they brought the burger,.
Speaker APartially because Tony wasn't there.
Speaker BTrue.
Speaker BBut usually we smash all the chips, bro.
Speaker BLike, chips.
Speaker AAnd he does smash all the chips.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BYeah, that's usually gone.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, yeah, like Rampage.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AVideo game.
Speaker AI don't know if you remember that.
Speaker BYeah, I remember.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause I went to arcade in Tennessee.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AThey were laughing at me because I was playing it and that you couldn't die.
Speaker AYou know, they just kept going.
Speaker ASo I was like, wow.
Speaker AI was like on level 35 or something.
Speaker BDang.
Speaker ABecause I'm not good at video games, but I am when there's multiple players.
Speaker AOptions.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSo, yeah, it was a cool, cool night of dinner yesterday.
Speaker BTook Chuck out.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe did what we call the taco tour.
Speaker BAnd it was kind of funny because, you know, we normally have our men's Bible study Tuesday night.
Speaker BAnd I told him, hey, they.
Speaker BThey're not having it this week because we're having Good Friday service.
Speaker BSo I told them, hey, let's go.
Speaker BLet's go grab some food.
Speaker BI told him, we can go tacos or burgers, because I know those are his two.
Speaker BYou know, that's his.
Speaker BThat's his thing, you know.
Speaker BAnd so I get to his house, and that's what he said.
Speaker BHe's like, hey, do you want me to.
Speaker BDo you want me to tell you where we're going, or do you want to be surprised?
Speaker BI'm like, no, I'll just be surprised.
Speaker BSo I got to his house.
Speaker BHe's like, dude, I'm so indecisive.
Speaker BHe's like, I got like three spots.
Speaker BI'm like, oh, that's an easy.
Speaker BThat's an easy answer.
Speaker BLet's just go to all three.
Speaker BWe'll just get, like, two tacos at each place, and we'll just, you know, we'll just try them out and whoever's best that.
Speaker AOr they sit down.
Speaker AOr were they more like go to the counter?
Speaker BThey were all sit down.
Speaker BWell, I mean, you.
Speaker BYou order at the counter, but yeah,.
Speaker AYou know, I mean, like, you didn't have a weight.
Speaker AYou didn't have to pay three tips, I guess, is my question.
Speaker BNo, but one of them, they Actually brought it out to you.
Speaker BNo, two, actually, all three of them, they brought it out to you.
Speaker BOn all three of them, they brought.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BYou ordered at the counter, but they brought it out to you.
Speaker BThey give you a number and they brought it out to you.
Speaker BBut first one we went to, I mean, it was.
Speaker BIt was kind of in the hood and it was.
Speaker BIt was pretty good, though.
Speaker BThey were little.
Speaker BThe little small street tacos, you know, short, small.
Speaker BTwo biters, you know, but two double tortilla, you know, it's pretty good.
Speaker BCorn tortilla.
Speaker BThe cool thing about that place, though, they had the al pastor on the trompo, which.
Speaker BThat's my favorite, and they even put a little piece of pineapple on top, bro.
Speaker BSo when you hit that pineapple, bro, that.
Speaker BThat flavor just in your mouth, you know, Delicious.
Speaker BSecond place was pretty bomb because they loaded the tacos and they had really great salsa.
Speaker BIt was kind of an upscale place, really nice place.
Speaker BYou could, you know, take a date there.
Speaker BThey had an outdoor patio, which we should have had.
Speaker BWe should have ate dinner out there.
Speaker BI mean, it was pretty nice last night, you know, and.
Speaker BBut yeah, the tacos were loaded.
Speaker BThey were really good.
Speaker BAnd the cool thing about this place is one.
Speaker BOne thing you don't find at most taquerias here is that they had carnitas.
Speaker BAnd the carnitas were pretty, pretty.
Speaker AThey don't have carnitas out here.
Speaker BI don't find a lot of taquerias, bro.
Speaker BWith carnitas, bro.
Speaker BI mean, a lot of them have al pastor, but the thing with their al pastor there is they're never on the trompo.
Speaker BAnd if.
Speaker BIf the al pastor is not on the throne, it's just.
Speaker BIt's just carneo de vada, bro.
Speaker BIt's just marinated pork.
Speaker BBut you got to have it on the thrombo.
Speaker BIt's spinning on that thing.
Speaker BIt's getting nice and charred, drizzled with that pineapple.
Speaker BIt's just phenomenal.
Speaker BBut that place had it on the thrombo too, and it was pretty good there.
Speaker BAnd then we went to Ebike, Chris's favorite place, which is Eat by Chris.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's a spot over here.
Speaker AWe won't even go to his accident injuries.
Speaker BNo, that's X rated, bro.
Speaker BWe can't do that.
Speaker BWe can talk about that.
Speaker AEaster eggs.
Speaker AYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLiterally.
Speaker BSo we.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BWe went to this, the spot that he likes and there's by his house or.
Speaker AWhy does he like, it.
Speaker AIs it?
Speaker BNo, not really.
Speaker BHe's 43rd in Thunderbird.
Speaker AWell, he's what, on 35th?
Speaker BYeah, 35th.
Speaker AGreenway.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHe's on Greenway.
Speaker BHe's closer to Bell, isn't he?
Speaker BHe's between Bell and Greenway.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker AHe's about a quarter of a mile from Green.
Speaker AFrom Greenway, yeah.
Speaker BSo it's a little bit of a hike.
Speaker BI mean, on an ebike.
Speaker ANot on the ebike.
Speaker AAnything is accessible, you know?
Speaker BBut I wouldn't drive an ebike on 35th or Thunderbird, bro.
Speaker BLike, you have to be insane.
Speaker AWell, that's how you got into an accident, bro.
Speaker AThis guy drive everywhere.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker A20 Miles to work on an e bike.
Speaker BIt's just.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BI'm not.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BI'm not going to do that.
Speaker BNo way.
Speaker BThat's crazy.
Speaker AWell, I mean, he's.
Speaker AHe's, you know, kind of crazy.
Speaker AA little bit.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker ALove you, Chris.
Speaker BSo anyway, yeah, we tried the tacos, and.
Speaker BAnd they were pretty phenomenal, bro.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker BWe liked them there at that.
Speaker BAt that place, too.
Speaker BThey had the birria tacos, and we had some roll tacos.
Speaker BTheir salsas were pretty good.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BThe steak tacos were good.
Speaker BBut the.
Speaker BThe best one was the second one, Taco Cinco.
Speaker BThat was a pretty good taco spot, bro.
Speaker AAnd that's where I get.
Speaker AIf I went to three places, I'd be like, man, I should have ate six tacos here instead of wasting my appetite on the.
Speaker BWell, that's kind of what the idea was, was to figure out, okay, where's the good one?
Speaker BAnd so now we know.
Speaker BSo next time, that's just first place we're going, like.
Speaker AWell, just go to the first and only.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BYeah, well, now that we know.
Speaker BBut I mean, we tried three just so we could see if they were any good.
Speaker AAnd, you know, like, you're dating.
Speaker AYou're like, okay, now I'm getting married, you know?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo this is my taco cinco right here.
Speaker BThat was it, bro.
Speaker AThat was Rebecca's nickname.
Speaker ATaco Cinco.
Speaker AThat was the.
Speaker BThat was the taco tour.
Speaker BDating.
Speaker BDating my tacos.
Speaker AShe's my first wife.
Speaker BBut, yeah, it was cool, man.
Speaker BIt was enjoyable.
Speaker BIt was fun.
Speaker AWell, Tennessee.
Speaker AI, I.
Speaker AWhen I go to Tennessee, I want to try the Tennessee barbecue.
Speaker AWe had it when we went.
Speaker AMe, when we took Nate, and.
Speaker ABut I feel like nobody wants.
Speaker AI mean, they got, like, puckets, but puckets is kind of like chain, you.
Speaker BKnow,.
Speaker AAnd I think it's okay.
Speaker AIt's decent.
Speaker ABut we went downtown.
Speaker ADowntown.
Speaker AAnd they had a pretty.
Speaker APretty decent barbecue.
Speaker AAnd we haven't gone back, so maybe for the wedding, we can go check and, like, Andrew's like, we'll go to this one over here.
Speaker AAnd that one's good, but it's not like, you know, barbecue.
Speaker ABarbecue, like Texas.
Speaker AThey open up the.
Speaker AThe smoker, and they're like, hey, pick your meat.
Speaker AYou know, and it's legit smoked meat.
Speaker ABut we did go to Monaus, which we're gonna have to go to.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AI think it's phenomenal, maybe because they have fried chicken, but you eat right away, you know, like, that's the beauty of a Mexican restaurant.
Speaker AAnd Chili's is you get chips and salsa pretty immediately.
Speaker AAnd this place right here, they would.
Speaker AEvery day they serve a different entree.
Speaker ABut this, they.
Speaker AI think it's three meats for lunch, four meats for dinner.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ABut fried chicken is a staple in every meal.
Speaker ASo they have breakfast at midnight, you know, for those clubbers out there.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AAnd they serve breakfast till 11.
Speaker AIt's the bacon, the eggs.
Speaker BThey do chicken and waffles.
Speaker AI don't think they do waffles.
Speaker BThey do fried chicken.
Speaker AThey do pancakes.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI've never been there for breakfast.
Speaker AWe always been there for lunch.
Speaker ABut it's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker ASo you sit down and they have the cucumbers and vinaigrette salad and coleslaw.
Speaker AAnd then they bring out the banana pudding with the dessert.
Speaker AThey bring it all at once.
Speaker AAnd right when you first get there.
Speaker BRebecca loves dessert at the beginning.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AThey had those little Nilo wafers cookies in that banana.
Speaker BThat's the best.
Speaker AThat's pretty good.
Speaker ASo you got to bypass that.
Speaker AYou can't get full.
Speaker AYou got to just let it tempting you, bro.
Speaker AI don't do it and don't do it.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker AAnd Rebecca loves a coleslaw.
Speaker AAnd the first time I went with Laney, we had the pot roast, fried chicken, spinach, stuffed shells, which I didn't even.
Speaker AI didn't even put on my plate.
Speaker AI put some collard greens, whatever.
Speaker AJust because I felt like it was a vegetable.
Speaker ABut it wasn't that great, you know, it was not my favorite.
Speaker AIt tastes pretty nasty, but I ate it.
Speaker AAnd so they brought that green beans, pot roast, fried chicken.
Speaker BFried chicken was pretty bomb, though.
Speaker BSo did you.
Speaker BDid you have.
Speaker BBecause I know Nashville's known for hot chicken.
Speaker BDid you try any?
Speaker ADude, we went on Sunday after church.
Speaker AIt's like a half a block away.
Speaker AAnd then Andrew recognized the guy that was.
Speaker AMaybe owns a restaurant, was his coach when he was playing AAU or whatever that.
Speaker AI don't know what it's called.
Speaker AAnd the son is playing too.
Speaker AAnd so Rebecca got the hot chicken, and the.
Speaker AThe black lady was like, I don't know.
Speaker AThis white girl knows this is hot chicken, you know?
Speaker AAnd Isaiah got it right.
Speaker AHe likes hot stuff.
Speaker AAnd I don't think it's flavorful to me.
Speaker AAnd Rebecca had three pieces of chicken.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ASo I'm like, yeah.
Speaker AShe was struggling, so I'm like, yeah, let's trade one out.
Speaker AAnd I. Sweating.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABut it wasn't good.
Speaker ANo, no, it just.
Speaker AIt was kind of like a paste or a coating on it, and it was hot, but it wasn't, like, flavorful like a chile with jalapeno or like, it has a great flavor, but it's just hot.
Speaker AThis.
Speaker ATo me, it was just hot to be hot.
Speaker ABut no flavor.
Speaker ANo, but little Ethan.
Speaker AWell, he went little, but he finished her one.
Speaker AHe finished half of mine.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker AAnd I'm like.
Speaker ABecause I'm like, why am I gonna eat this?
Speaker AIt's like, it's not enjoyable.
Speaker AIt's not good, and I'm not gonna eat it.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut the plain chicken was really good.
Speaker ASo, like, we've been a Hattie B's over there.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker AI mean, the Nashville hot chicken's not my cup of tea.
Speaker ASo the.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker BThe Nashville barbecue.
Speaker BIs that what's different about that than Texas and then Kansas City?
Speaker AI think it's comparable.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI've never had Kansas City.
Speaker AI think it's comparable to.
Speaker ATo Texas.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut I mean, I like Terry Blacks from Texas.
Speaker AThat's pretty bomb.
Speaker AYou know, I've had about maybe two or three different ones.
Speaker ASome people tell me, like, a chain.
Speaker BI'm like, yeah, the chains.
Speaker BI wouldn't.
Speaker BYeah, mom pop is where it's at.
Speaker AI mean, it's pretty good.
Speaker ALike his little Miss good, if not a little bit better.
Speaker BWell, I don't know if you remember, but when we were.
Speaker BWhen we were in Dallas and we went down to deep Alum, and there was some dude that just cruised up and he was pulling his smoker, and he just flipped him open.
Speaker BHe just started slanging right there on the street.
Speaker BDo you remember that?
Speaker ANo, I don't.
Speaker AYeah, he was, like, pulling his bike with the smoker.
Speaker BNo, it was.
Speaker BHe had a truck, but he Was pulling, like, on a trailer, like, you know, so he just.
Speaker AOh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BHe just pulled up.
Speaker APull it in behind himself.
Speaker BYeah, he just opened up the smoke.
Speaker BHe had, like, brisket.
Speaker BHe had all kind of stuff.
Speaker APeople getting down with it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLike, people just started buying it right off the street like that.
Speaker BLike, he just wrote.
Speaker BHe just pulled up at the barbecue.
Speaker AMaybe he has a reputation.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BHe might.
Speaker BHe might.
Speaker BMaybe that's where he just pulls out.
Speaker BLike he didn't have a food truck.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker BIt was just literally pulling the barbecuer.
Speaker AOne Deep Alum.
Speaker AThey do not have Terry Blacks.
Speaker AIs there.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AMe and Nate went to Terry Blacks and Deep Alum.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut it's pretty phenomenal.
Speaker AI mean, Little Miss is really good.
Speaker BI like Little Miss.
Speaker AI haven't been there in a minute.
Speaker BThey're Peacon Pie, bro.
Speaker BSmoked is so good.
Speaker AThe little one.
Speaker AThe little personal.
Speaker AOne personal pan.
Speaker BIt's a.
Speaker BIt's a little round little pie of sin.
Speaker ALike, it's.
Speaker AIt's so good.
Speaker ASenpai tastes phenomenal.
Speaker BYeah, it's super good.
Speaker ASo we'll have to go to Monal's.
Speaker AI mean, that's downtown, but yeah, it's.
Speaker AI think it's fantastic.
Speaker BI'm down to try it.
Speaker BI mean, I like.
Speaker BI love, you know, comfort food.
Speaker BFried chicken.
Speaker ADave said, I don't like comfort.
Speaker AI don't like Southern food.
Speaker BI'm like, what, you live in Nashville, Tennessee?
Speaker ANashville, Tennessee, bro.
Speaker AAnd it's like a house.
Speaker ASo you're like, in a house, and there's a dining room and different rooms.
Speaker ASo it's like.
Speaker AIt kind of gives you, like.
Speaker AYou're at your.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ALike your abuelita's house or something.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BSit around the dinner.
Speaker AWhite, you know, black or whatever.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AShe said, and it's a legit.
Speaker AIt's like a dinner table with dinner chairs.
Speaker AIt's not like a.
Speaker ALike a restaurant.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker ASo let's.
Speaker AI think we had 10 people on Friday, so we all sat together.
Speaker ABut let's say there's six of you.
Speaker AThey put you with another family.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd you guys just fill the table and you share.
Speaker AAnd we met somebody from Colorado.
Speaker BKind of like the cruise.
Speaker AYeah, it can be.
Speaker BThey just mix you on the table.
Speaker ASo they fill the table with whoever.
Speaker AWhoever's there.
Speaker AAnd then you guys just share the food.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd then if you run out of chicken, you can say, I want more chicken, and they bring you more chicken.
Speaker BBottomless chicken.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AWell, bottomless anything, really.
Speaker AYou Want more banana pudding, too?
Speaker ABanana pudding.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker AAll right, you ready to get down?
Speaker BYeah, let's get in this, man.
Speaker AAll right, let's do it.
Speaker BSo, yeah, we are doing episode 75 here.
Speaker BJust real quick.
Speaker BYou can visit us at Abundant Life fm.
Speaker BWe have all of our show notes.
Speaker BWe have a lot of stuff on there, actually.
Speaker BWe have recommendations for food.
Speaker BI actually have to add a couple more.
Speaker AI was just looking at that last the other day.
Speaker BI'm gonna have to add a taco spot there, actually.
Speaker BThat was pretty good, man.
Speaker BBut, yeah, you can also get our show notes there.
Speaker BYou can also get sermons there.
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Speaker BEpisode is a blessing to you.
Speaker BAnd so today we are going to.
Speaker BWe're going to go ahead and just do an Easter episode.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe.
Speaker BWe didn't get a guest lined up for this particular episode, unfortunately.
Speaker BBut I thought, you know, what a cool week, because this is.
Speaker BThis is a great week.
Speaker BI mean, I think Easter comparative to Christmas is just far superior.
Speaker BLike, I mean, this is resurrection week, bro.
Speaker AThis is for the Christian.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BHoly week.
Speaker AThis is the gospel, right?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd that's kind of what we're going to get into today day.
Speaker BSo I'm kind of excited for this episode.
Speaker BDid you want to hit the key verse?
Speaker BI don't know if you have it pulled up there.
Speaker ALet's do it.
Speaker BIt's Romans 10:9, but Romans 10:9.
Speaker ABecause if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Speaker BSo, and I just want to go through some of these.
Speaker BThese points here, kind of outlining the gospel, but really kind of centered on Easter, the resurrection, because.
Speaker BBecause that the resurrection is what's like, everything hinges for the Christian.
Speaker BEverything hinges on the resurrection.
Speaker BIf there's no resurrection, there's no point for any of us to do anything that we're doing now.
Speaker BLike, there's no point in going to church, reading the Bible.
Speaker BThere's no point in getting saved or baptized or any of this if that resurrection doesn't happen.
Speaker BAnd so that's kind of what I want to talk about today.
Speaker BJust kind of go through some of these points, but it's mostly centered around the.
Speaker AWell, the founders of any religion, right, are.
Speaker AAre dead 100.
Speaker AThey didn't resurrect 100.
Speaker BYou got Buddha, you got Muhammad, you got Joseph Smith, you've got all of these religious, whatever you would call them, leaders, I guess.
Speaker BI mean, they weren't deities.
Speaker AOur founders.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AOf the religion.
Speaker BSure.
Speaker AJoseph Smith was the founder of Mormonism.
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker AMuhammad and.
Speaker BCorrect.
Speaker BBut they're dead.
Speaker BYeah, literally, you know, and, and that's the thing with Jesus.
Speaker BHe resurrected, which is really cool.
Speaker BSo couple, couple of verses here.
Speaker BFirst Corinthians 15, 14 through 17.
Speaker BAnd I love, I love actually this chapter and a lot of the verses here at the beginning, they're very gospel centric.
Speaker BThis is a really gospel rich text here.
Speaker BBut 1st Corinthians 15, 14, 17.
Speaker BAnd if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is in vain and your faith is in vain.
Speaker BThat's the whole point.
Speaker BEverything hinges on this.
Speaker BWe are even found to be misrepresenting God because we testified about God, that he raised Christ, whom he did not raise.
Speaker BIf, if it is true that the dead are not raised.
Speaker BFor if the dead are not raised, not even Christ has been raised.
Speaker BAnd if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile and you are still in your sins.
Speaker BSo it's basically just telling you, hey, like, if this resurrection didn't happen, like, let's just go eat, drink and be married.
Speaker BLike, let's just go live it up because who cares?
Speaker AThere's all we got.
Speaker AI heard an interesting quote about somebody that said the, the gospel doesn't spread because it's popular.
Speaker AIt spreads because it's true.
Speaker AAnd that's really the key to the, to the gospel is if you look at all.
Speaker AI mean, and this, Mel Gibson said this on Joe Rogan, that he said, if you look at the people, the disciples that followed Christ, they didn't die for a lie or they didn't die to keep something up.
Speaker AI mean, you press somebody hard enough, right?
Speaker AAnd you watch first 48 hours, these guys give up people like nobody's business.
Speaker AOh yeah, they're quick to lie.
Speaker ABut somebody's willing to die for something.
Speaker AYeah, that has some merit, right?
Speaker ASome truth.
Speaker AAnd that they saw him, you know, resurrect.
Speaker AAnd that's, that's what we, that's the foundation of our, our.
Speaker AOf what we believe.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker BWell, and there's, you know, some religions that will acknowledge Jesus, but they don't consider him deity.
Speaker BBut the thing about the resurrection is that validates who he was.
Speaker BLike, that just totally validates.
Speaker BHe was the chosen one, he was the Messiah.
Speaker BHe was the truth of life.
Speaker BEverything that we read about, not just in the New Testament, but in the Old Testament, like, he's throughout the Old Testament too.
Speaker BAnd I know that.
Speaker BThe Jews don't believe currently that the Messiah has come, but he's completely spoken about throughout the Old Testament.
Speaker AWell, you foretold of it, right?
Speaker AAnd, and here it is fulfilled.
Speaker AYeah, but yet there's still some unbelief which I, I mean, I, I, I, I don't clearly understand.
Speaker ABut I mean, any going to Israel, right?
Speaker AYou see the, I mean, it's evidence.
Speaker BOf how can you not believe.
Speaker AMaybe they just not believe.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, they don't believe Jesus was the Messiah, but clearly, I mean, and Apostle Paul even mentioned like this thing was not done in a corner, right?
Speaker APeople saw it, people, it happened whether or not you want to believe it or not.
Speaker AAnd, and really in our society, right, we can understand that concept of not believing something people saw because we believe things that are absolutely not true.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd then we're like, oh no, that's, that's, that's a, that's a dude.
Speaker AAnd like, clearly that's not a dude or hey, that's a woman.
Speaker ALike, yeah, it's not a woman, that's a dude.
Speaker BOr, or even, not even just that taking it to the extreme, but we, we believe in things that we don't see yet.
Speaker BPeople will say, well, I don't see Jesus or I don't see God, I don't believe.
Speaker BBut yeah, I don't, I don't see air, but it's there.
Speaker BI mean, I'm breathing, bro.
Speaker BLike it's proof.
Speaker ABut yeah, well, history too, right?
Speaker AI mean, yeah, we don't have Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker BYeah, right, exactly.
Speaker AVideos of him.
Speaker ABut yeah, we believe he existed because people saw.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AIt was foretold.
Speaker AAnd even more so this is, yeah, this is even more concrete evidence.
Speaker BSo, so basically, I mean, the point here is, is with, without the resurrection, there's, there's no gospel.
Speaker BAnd then I love how there's, there's one more verse I want to hit here real quick.
Speaker BIt's Acts 2:24.
Speaker BIt says God raised him up, losing the pangs of death because it was not possible for him to be held by it.
Speaker BIt was an impossible ability for him to be consumed by death.
Speaker BHe defeated death, he conquered death.
Speaker BHe, like, I don't know how he did, but it, well, it was through God's power.
Speaker BI mean, God resurrected him.
Speaker BBut that was, like I said, the evidence of Jesus was deity.
Speaker BHe rose from the dead, he conquered death and he Defeated it for good.
Speaker AWell, I think of all the symbolism, right, like when he hung on the cross and, you know, the ninth hour and the world turned dark, right?
Speaker AJust.
Speaker AIt's like the earth was grieving for the Creator that was being crucified.
Speaker AAnd then also how the veil, the temple, right, Just ripped into, showing us that we have direct access to the Father, that we no longer had to go to the Holies of Holies and the priest didn't have to.
Speaker AThe ultimate sacrifice was done.
Speaker AAnd symbolically, boom, he ripped the veil.
Speaker AAnd let's say, hey, now you have what I have with the Father, right?
Speaker AAnd the reason why he resurrected, because he's the Son of God.
Speaker AAnd I think that differentiates from other religions, too, that don't believe.
Speaker AMaybe he's a.
Speaker AHe was a prophet or he was a good man.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut the resurrection clearly signifies that he is the Son of God.
Speaker BWell, and that kind of goes into our next point here.
Speaker BAnd, you know, Jesus, he is deity.
Speaker BHe is God.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BWell, I can't sit here and explain or fully wrap my head around the Trinity because it's a hard concept, but it's Father, Son, Holy Spirit, one essence, one God.
Speaker BBut it's hard to.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BI can't wrap my head around that.
Speaker BIt's hard.
Speaker BBut I believe it like it's.
Speaker BIt's true, you know, And Jesus was.
Speaker BJesus is God.
Speaker BHe was God.
Speaker BHe is God.
Speaker BJohn 1.
Speaker B1.
Speaker BAnd then verse 14 says, in the beginning was the word, capital W, and the word capital W was with God, and the Word was God.
Speaker BSo it's not just saying that He.
Speaker BHe was some man.
Speaker BHe was God.
Speaker BAnd the Word became flesh.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker BSo he was God.
Speaker BAnd then he came down to earth as a.
Speaker BAs a.
Speaker BAs a man and dwelt among us.
Speaker BAnd we have seen his glory.
Speaker BGlory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Speaker BSo, I mean, this speaks to his.
Speaker BHis deity.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BHe's not just a man.
Speaker BAnd I know there's some religions.
Speaker BHe'll say that while he was a man first and then became God.
Speaker AYeah, that's absolutely not true.
Speaker ASo, yeah, I mean, if you look at the Trinity, right, It's.
Speaker AGod is not Jesus.
Speaker AJesus is not God.
Speaker AThe Holy Spirit is not Jesus.
Speaker AHoly Spirit's not Right.
Speaker BWell, not the Father, right.
Speaker ABut the Holy Spirit is God.
Speaker AJesus is God, and God.
Speaker AGod is God.
Speaker ARight, but they all have three distinct roles that they play, which, I mean, we don't understand.
Speaker BPerson's one essence I don't know, it's.
Speaker BIt's hard.
Speaker BIt's hard to wrap your head around it.
Speaker AWell, because God was displeased with the son because of the sin of us.
Speaker BTurned his face, turn.
Speaker ATurned his back on him.
Speaker AAnd yeah, I don't, don't know how.
Speaker BThe dynamics work with that, but God.
Speaker APlanned, that was God's plan since he created man, was to provide a savior.
Speaker BBut thank God the Father also said that God this to Jesus, this is my beloved son.
Speaker BAnd so, I mean, it's.
Speaker BYeah, it's an interesting dynamic how all of that works.
Speaker BAnd I mean, the, the thing that's interesting about it all too is, I mean, you know, Jesus, God came in the flesh, but he came willingly.
Speaker BHe came by choice.
Speaker BAnd then you think about, well, why, like, there's nothing good in and of me that's worth saving.
Speaker BBut he did it because he loves us.
Speaker BI mean, love is the motive, his love, not the love that we think about because we're conditional and he's unconditional, but he just has this amazing love for us.
Speaker BAnd he sent his son to die for us, which is, I don't think,.
Speaker AI mean, mind blowing.
Speaker AThere's not the greatest guy, right?
Speaker ARavi kind of went off the deep.
Speaker BIn there, but he, but he had some really good.
Speaker AHe had some good truth.
Speaker AAnd that's what he would say that, you know, the Muslims would say that Abraham sacrificed Ishmael, and Christians, Jews believe it's Isaac.
Speaker AAnd instead of getting caught up, which the truth is, it's Isaac because that's what the Bible tells us.
Speaker ABut instead of getting caught up as to who it was, for the Muslim faith, the.
Speaker AThe bigger picture is the reason why.
Speaker AWhy was there a need for a sacrifice?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd that's the concept that we almost come to.
Speaker ALike, why did God have to die and why did he die?
Speaker ABecause he loved us and we needed a savior.
Speaker AAnd that's, you know, episode number three.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AFor the exchange.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AGod is love.
Speaker AProfessor George Shout out right there.
Speaker AAnd that, I mean, that's, that's just so important in our Christian faith that Jesus died on the cross.
Speaker AAnd that's why really, we wouldn't have crosses with crucifix because we feel like he's a risen savior.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo he's not on the cross.
Speaker AHe's not on the cross.
Speaker AI don't think the Catholics may believe that he rose again as well.
Speaker AI don't really, really know.
Speaker AI'm not too familiar.
Speaker BThey do.
Speaker BThey do, yeah.
Speaker BColossians 2, 9 it says, for in him, the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily.
Speaker BWhich is interesting, because when he was.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BI know, I know the math doesn't add up, but when he was here, present on this earth, he was 100 man.
Speaker BBut yet, according to this verse, he was 100 deity.
Speaker BHe was 100 God.
Speaker BAnd I know no one person is 200 of anything, but he was then.
Speaker BI can't explain that either, but it was.
Speaker AWell, no man outside of God.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ADoesn't sin.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd to live a life here on this earth and not.
Speaker BI mean, I don't know how he.
Speaker BThat.
Speaker BThat's just.
Speaker BThat's another.
Speaker AYou know, like you're waiting for your taco.
Speaker ALike,.
Speaker BWhat are you, just a little kid?
Speaker BYou know, you just happen to flippantly say something or do something, disobey your.
Speaker AParent, like pull your sister's hair.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, That's.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut, yeah, completely sinless.
Speaker BLike, it's.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's amazing.
Speaker BWe got Hebrews 1:3 says, he is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature.
Speaker BThat's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker BAnd he upheld, upholds the universe by the word of his power.
Speaker BSo he's God.
Speaker BI mean, he has the power.
Speaker BAfter making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, of the majesty on high.
Speaker BSo the fullness of God dwells in him.
Speaker BHe's not lesser than God.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd Jesus is not created.
Speaker BHe's not a created being.
Speaker BHe's not a created.
Speaker BHe just has always been.
Speaker BIt's like, it's back in what Exodus when, you know, Moses was like, well, who do I tell him?
Speaker BWho you are.
Speaker BI am that I am.
Speaker BLike, he's just always been, yeah, yeah, mic drop.
Speaker AAnd people just backed up with the words that he said, right.
Speaker AWhen he said, I am.
Speaker BAnd in the same thing, when they asked Jesus, I.
Speaker BHe said the same thing.
Speaker BI am.
Speaker BAnd I think that's when all the Pharisees and everybody went nuts.
Speaker ABut, yeah, they wanted to stone him.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause he claimed to be the son of God, which he was.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd they thought that was blasphemy.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker AYeah, and that's.
Speaker AI mean, this.
Speaker AThe fullness of God dwells in him.
Speaker AThere's no room for anything else.
Speaker APerfect life.
Speaker AAnd I think of it just as, you know, Pastor would say.
Speaker APastor Shaw would say, like, he doesn't operate within time.
Speaker ASo we look at the beginning, and there to him, there was no beginning, there's no end.
Speaker AIt's just.
Speaker BIt's transcendent.
Speaker AYeah, it's weird where we operate in 2026.
Speaker AHe goes wherever he wants.
Speaker ALike, there's no.
Speaker AHe can go to the beginning of time, you can go to the end of time.
Speaker AJust like, I think, you know, he's seen my funeral.
Speaker AHe's been there already.
Speaker AIt's already happened.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIt's done.
Speaker AThat's just mind blowing to think that it's already there.
Speaker AYeah, he was.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AHe's the God of that day.
Speaker AHe's a God of the future.
Speaker AHe's a God of, you know, Armageddon.
Speaker AAnd we didn't get to go to Israel.
Speaker AAnd this year they got canceled for obvious reasons.
Speaker ABut it's just cool to see the things he talks about in the Bible and the things that are going to happen and the things that have already happened.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd just like we went to Gethsemane before he went to the cross, and the human aspect of him said, hey, if there's any way that you can let this cup pass, please.
Speaker AAnd God said, nope.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHe didn't allow it.
Speaker AAnd being God as well, he obeyed.
Speaker ASaid, okay, I accept whatever the will of my Father is, I'll do it.
Speaker AAnd like the disciples, I fell asleep too, praying in the Garden of Gethsemane, so.
Speaker BWell, and it's interesting because he was submitted to the Father's will while he was here on this earth.
Speaker BI mean, he.
Speaker BAnd obviously was an example to us for us, but it was just.
Speaker BHe was submissive to the Father, you know, I know.
Speaker BI know you're not a huge the Chosen fan anymore, but we.
Speaker BWe kind of.
Speaker BWe've been watching a few episodes, and it's one thing that's kind of interesting to me is how selective Jesus was when he healed somebody.
Speaker BBut he was always looking to the Father's will, like, so it was like the Father's will that someone got saved or someone that.
Speaker BOr not saved, but healed.
Speaker BAnd maybe someone did not get healed.
Speaker BI mean, there was one of his disciples that, you know, had an issue and he didn't heal him, but he, you know, healed a blind person or rose somebody from the dead, you know, and it wasn't everybody that he did that with, so it's just interesting.
Speaker BBut he was always submissive to the.
Speaker AFather's, I think, because he was God.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI think he could discern the heart as to the motive, as to why somebody wanted to get healed, because I think there's people that were there for the spectacle of it, but were not.
Speaker ADidn't have the faith to believe that he could do it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AIt was like, prove it to me.
Speaker AAnd there's other people that.
Speaker AAnd he said, your faith have made you whole.
Speaker ALike, he.
Speaker AHe just.
Speaker BWell, we saw the one episode where he.
Speaker BHe heals the.
Speaker BThe Roman soldier's son and he's like having not found of such great creative faith in all of Israel.
Speaker BAnd that.
Speaker BThat was an amazing episode because the Roman guard kneeled to Jesus in that episode.
Speaker BIt was pretty phenomenal.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker BIt was one of my favorite episodes.
Speaker BIt was really neat.
Speaker ADo they do.
Speaker ASo do the theater ones or.
Speaker ANo, like, they show it to the.
Speaker ALike for each.
Speaker BI don't know if they do or not, but we've been getting back into it and.
Speaker BYeah, it's just been.
Speaker BIt's been good.
Speaker AIt's funny because Marty loves those too.
Speaker BDoes he really?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe asked me, are you.
Speaker AWhat season are you on?
Speaker AI'm like, ah, probably ended at 2.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AYeah, but.
Speaker ABut yeah, I mean that's.
Speaker AI. I believe because he was God, he can discern the heart.
Speaker AAnd there's people that.
Speaker AAnd I think there's other things too.
Speaker ALike people will pray in church to get healed.
Speaker AAnd that's not always God's will for your life.
Speaker AAnd I think a lot of us just want an easy life and there's no such thing.
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker AAnd the Apostle Paul, right.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AI mean that's probably the.
Speaker AOne of the greatest Christians in the New Testament asked and he said three times.
Speaker AAnd he said, no, my grace is sufficient for you.
Speaker ALike, I'm enough just.
Speaker AAnd basically to tell us, like, hey, there's going to be things you go through that you're going to want relief.
Speaker AAnd I'm not going to give it to you because I'm gonna.
Speaker AI'm your.
Speaker AI'm gonna be there and show you that all you need is me.
Speaker BDependence.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd wow, it's really interesting.
Speaker BThat verse stuck out to me the other day, the one that you were talking about with the Apostle Paul.
Speaker BBecause it says when Paul was complaining to Jesus, he said, you know, I have a thorn in my side.
Speaker BAnd it was.
Speaker BIt's a messenger of Satan to buffet me.
Speaker BAnd messenger is angel.
Speaker BSatan, obviously.
Speaker BSo demon.
Speaker BSo demon was messing with him.
Speaker BI know a lot of people say, well, I think maybe he had something physically wrong or something wrong with his eye or like a big nose.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, I don't know what it was, honestly.
Speaker ASleep apnea.
Speaker BBut we don't know, whatever it was, it was a d. He was being demonized.
Speaker BLike, that's what he said.
Speaker BIt was a messenger of Satan to buffet me.
Speaker BAnd I thought that was kind of interesting too, because that just tells me that that's Satan's game plan.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BI mean, he wants to attack you.
Speaker BHe wants to attack me in whatever way, however he can compromise us.
Speaker BBut what we have to do is just how.
Speaker BYou know.
Speaker BYou know how the apostle Paul responded by, well, I've just gotta.
Speaker BI've gotta trust God.
Speaker BHis grace is sufficient.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BAnd that should be our response, too.
Speaker AWhat's funny to me is when I think of that Satan, like, coming after you, I always think of the wizard of Oz when those little monkeys and the witch and they took out the straw from this.
Speaker AFrom the straw man, the guy rusted it.
Speaker AThey.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd they scared the lion.
Speaker AAnd just.
Speaker AThat's what he does.
Speaker AHe comes in.
Speaker ASabotage.
Speaker AHe just takes the straw out of your body.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd then physically, sometimes, sometimes mentally, sometimes with sin, and sometimes we're working with him as well on that.
Speaker AOn that side.
Speaker B100.
Speaker AI just.
Speaker AThat's hot.
Speaker AVisually, I see him attack, you know, just.
Speaker AHe's just flying over you just like, oh, yeah.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AThat's when we ask God, hey, help us.
Speaker BYou know, that's sweet.
Speaker AThat's what we need because we can't grow without it.
Speaker AI don't.
Speaker AI wish I could say, man, I could be spiritual or I could grow in Christ without trials, but that's what.
Speaker ASadly, I don't.
Speaker BIt's like going to the gym, right?
Speaker BYou can't.
Speaker BYou can't get gains without pain.
Speaker BLike, you're.
Speaker BYou're not.
Speaker BI gave that example on Friday night.
Speaker BLike, you know, Tony goes to the gym four, five, six times a week.
Speaker BIf you get somebody that only goes once a week like you, you're going to get no gains.
Speaker BBut, you know, Tony's over here.
Speaker BHe's a big dude, but he goes five, six times a week.
Speaker BLike, he's.
Speaker BHe's lifting a lot, you know, so the same with us.
Speaker BIf we're not, you know, exercising our faith, exercising our.
Speaker BOur spiritual walk with the Lord, reading his word, praying, doing those things, we're not going to have those spiritual gains.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AJust like stress of the physical muscle leads to, you know, strength.
Speaker ASame stress of the spiritual muscle leads to dependence on God, which leads to growth.
Speaker ABecause your body has no choice to get stronger because you're tearing it down and God breaking You down.
Speaker AYou have no choice but to say God.
Speaker AYeah, that's it, right?
Speaker AI need help.
Speaker AI mean, I'm in a bad spot.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker B100.
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Speaker BSo one point I want to make here.
Speaker BYou know Jesus through the sufficiency of the cross.
Speaker BJesus did not make salvation just possible.
Speaker BHe accomplished it.
Speaker BLike he, he did it when he was on the cross.
Speaker BHe said it is finished.
Speaker BLike it was done, it was paid for.
Speaker BLike there's no other work that needs to be done.
Speaker BAnd that's, that's one thing that, you know, a lot of.
Speaker BI would say all, actually, I would say all world religions other than true Christianity and biblical Christianity, those all world religions are workspace.
Speaker BLike you have to please your God somehow.
Speaker BYou have to work for your way to heaven, for your ticket to heaven.
Speaker BYou know, some religions say you're going to get 72 virgins when you get there, you know, and you got a. Kamikaze yourself into a building or whatever, you know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd, and that's just not the case.
Speaker BI mean that's not how God, God, God sent Jesus and Jesus paid it all.
Speaker BAnd all we have to do, which I know it sounds easy, but it wasn't easy for him.
Speaker BBut the easy part is for us to just receive the gift.
Speaker BLike just receive it.
Speaker BIt's, it's.
Speaker BI guess I shouldn't say it's easy, it's simple.
Speaker BIt's the simplicity of it.
Speaker BIt's, it's nothing that I have to earn because I can't earn it.
Speaker AWell, I think it's so, and that's why he said, you know, you come into me as a little child, right?
Speaker ABecause as the child has that childlike faith to just accept what he's told.
Speaker AAnd when you get to be an adult, you kind of have your own versions of how you get come to Christ.
Speaker AAnd like there's really two religions, right?
Speaker AWe have works based and we have salvation based, right?
Speaker AOne believes that the work is finished and one believes that it's a work in progress.
Speaker AAnd I have to do the work because I know.
Speaker AI think Mormonism is the same way, right?
Speaker ALike, they believe that Jesus died, but they believe they have to do all I can.
Speaker AI mean, they don't believe in hell either, but I have to do all I can and then God will do the rest.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AThere's nothing we can do.
Speaker BWell, then the question becomes how much?
Speaker BLike, how.
Speaker BHow much is that?
Speaker BThen?
Speaker BLike, what does that look like for you?
Speaker BWhat does that look like for me?
Speaker BOr is it different?
Speaker ALike, like retirement?
Speaker BHow do you know you get, did.
Speaker AI save enough money?
Speaker BOr I got $50,000.
Speaker AYeah, 50,000 nest egg.
Speaker AOr am I going to be working at Walmart, you know, as a greeter just to make things like, how do you know?
Speaker BHow do you know what's enough?
Speaker BLike, how do you know you've reached that?
Speaker AAnd really, he said it, right?
Speaker AIt is finished.
Speaker AHe cried that out.
Speaker AI just finished.
Speaker AIt's done.
Speaker AIt's complete, 100%, the work is completed.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AI think that's the beauty of, of, you know, what we believe and the resurrection.
Speaker AAnd I was talking to Anthony a couple weeks ago, and that's what he was saying.
Speaker ALike, he was talking about God and he just said, I was looking at this YouTube video and this Chinese doctor was talking about he was studying the eye in medical school.
Speaker AAnd from studying the eye, he came to know crisis.
Speaker AHe's like, there's no.
Speaker AOf all the things, he like kind of mapped it out.
Speaker ALike if it was a computer program and all the things that had to line up for you to be able to see, there has to be a God, right?
Speaker AThere has to be a creator, There has to be a master designer.
Speaker AAnd to think of God.
Speaker AFrom the time that Adam sinned, he already had a plan, right?
Speaker AHe didn't, like, wait for Adam.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker AHe knew that this would happen.
Speaker AHe had this plan in place that he would send his son and he would foretell us, he would tell us in the Old Testament, this is what's going to happen.
Speaker AAnd even through David, right, He.
Speaker AHe told your.
Speaker AYou will always be on the throne.
Speaker ALike, well, how is that possible?
Speaker AAnd then he showed him, like, well, he is the king, right?
Speaker AWe have these no king protests whatever.
Speaker AKind of silly, but we do, as Christians have an ultimate king in.
Speaker AIn Jesus Christ.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI've got a shirt that says, the king is still the king.
Speaker BHe's always going to be the king.
Speaker BYeah, so.
Speaker BSo I got a couple verses here.
Speaker BHebrews 10, 10, 14 says, and by that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ.
Speaker BAnd this is the key right here.
Speaker BIt says once for all.
Speaker BAnd every priest stand, stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices which can never take away sins.
Speaker BBut when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, waiting from that time until his enemies should be made a footstool for his feet.
Speaker BFor by a single offering, he has perfected for all time those who are being sacrificed.
Speaker BSo it's like all of these sacrifices, these, that they did in the Old Testament, they were all just pointing to him because ultimately they couldn't, they couldn't take sins away.
Speaker BLike they killing a lamb or killing a bull or whatever.
Speaker BThey would kill a dove or whatever.
Speaker BThey wouldn't.
Speaker BIt, it didn't matter like it did.
Speaker BThat doesn't take away sin.
Speaker BBut it's what it represented.
Speaker BIt represented Jesus in the future.
Speaker BAnd that's what takes away this.
Speaker AAnd when you said once and for all, right, that wasn't a once and for all thing.
Speaker AThat was a process, right?
Speaker AThe Passover, they would take the sacrifice up to.
Speaker ABut that was like a annual thing every year.
Speaker AIt wasn't finished where this is, this was complete because he is ultimately the perfect.
Speaker AAnd it was really like a lamb without blemish or a lamb without spot or whatever.
Speaker AThey had to sacrifice the wave offering.
Speaker AThey had, you know, different type of sacrifices, but it wasn't perfect because there's no perfect animal.
Speaker ABut as far as they could tell, right, this was a perfect sacrifice.
Speaker AAnd what was funny, well, not funny, but what's interesting, we went to Israel.
Speaker AThey took us to where they thought Jesus was imprisoned before he was crucified.
Speaker AAnd it was the house of Caiaphas.
Speaker AAnd Caiaphas was responsible for the sacrifice.
Speaker BIt was a high priest.
Speaker AHe was the high priest, right?
Speaker ASo he's responsible for the little lamb or whatever, the sacrifice.
Speaker AAnd ultimately he did give up the, the, the ultimate lamb, which was Jesus Christ.
Speaker AAnd that was a crazy correlation that we never put together.
Speaker AAnd that's what she said that he was.
Speaker AThat Caiaphas actually gave the world the, the, the perfect sacrifice, the perfect lamb.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AWe were kind of blown away.
Speaker AAnd that was like our last day there.
Speaker AThat through him it was finished and there was no, there's no longer a need for.
Speaker AAlthough they have the red heifer and all that's coming.
Speaker AProphecy.
Speaker BIt's interesting, bro.
Speaker AAnd I think really with the war that we're seeing.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWe're seeing a lot of things shift and change and yeah.
Speaker BOh yeah.
Speaker APeople are going to come against Israel and they're.
Speaker AThey're king.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ATheir Savior is going to come, but.
Speaker BNot the one they're expecting.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd it's funny because I was looking at something and people think that, you know, you're going to have a smiling Jesus when he comes back or smiling God and it's.
Speaker AIt that's not how he's going to come back.
Speaker AOh.
Speaker BThe way he's pictured in re Revelation coming on the white horse, sword coming out of the mouth.
Speaker ALike I'm like, yeah.
Speaker AIt's not like the nice, you know, Sunday school pictures you see.
Speaker BOh, it's not the flannel graph, bro.
Speaker ANot the final graph.
Speaker AYeah, for sure.
Speaker AI miss those final.
Speaker BSo yeah.
Speaker BI think point here is Jesus said it was finished, not no other work needs to be added.
Speaker BThere's no.
Speaker BNothing I can do.
Speaker BAdditionally because it's not necessary.
Speaker BThere's nothing I can do because it's already been done.
Speaker BIt's already been paid for.
Speaker BIt's like going to the restaurant, somebody pays your bill.
Speaker BThere's nothing else for me to pay.
Speaker BIt's been paid.
Speaker BYou just thank them, you know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AI think it's a hard concept for people to grasp and I think my grandfather was in that same boat is how can it not cost me something?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHow can it not like I have to do something for it.
Speaker BBut it cost Jesus everything or cause God his son.
Speaker AHis son.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe sacrificed his son for us.
Speaker AAnd then you have the types of Christ like Abraham and Isaac and God provided a ram right in the, in the thicket and the same thing.
Speaker AGod provided a perfect sacrifice for, for mankind.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI think that's what separates true Christianity of Christ following is that we don't.
Speaker AThere's nothing we can do.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AWe can't go to church, we can't give money, we can't go on a two year mission.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd there's just.
Speaker AWe can't work our way there because ultimately we are corrupt human beings.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThat don't.
Speaker AAnd just like you said, right is one is enough is enough.
Speaker AAnd really it's the moment we're born, we're born in sin.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd there's.
Speaker AIt's insurmountable of what.
Speaker AAnd really I think he Talks about in that parable, right?
Speaker AWhen he said that guy, the, you know, owed him money and he was forgiven of the great debt.
Speaker ALike I don't even know how much, like $80 million.
Speaker AAnd that's really our debt.
Speaker AAnd that wasn't even putting a real number on it.
Speaker ABut to say, like, and then you don't forgive others, like that's what, you know, blows.
Speaker ALike, I don't think it blows God's mind, but that's what he's like, what's wrong with you?
Speaker ALike, I forgave you of everything.
Speaker AAnd really you had an insurmountable debt that you could never pay, right?
Speaker AAnd that's what he's telling you.
Speaker ABut yet I paid it for you, right?
Speaker APaid in full.
Speaker AAnd I think that's the beauty of, of, of the gospel is that it's, it is paid in full and it's not something we can lose or something that we can give up or once we're saved, that's it, you know, that's.
Speaker BWhy they call it eternal life.
Speaker BI, I think part of the, part of our problem is pride, bro.
Speaker BLike, I think pride is what prevents most people from, from receiving the gift.
Speaker BBecause it's like you, you said your grandfather said he had to do something.
Speaker BYou know, we have that mentality here as Westerners or maybe even just around the world in general.
Speaker BBut just, you know, I've gotta, I've gotta achieve.
Speaker BWe're performance based, you know, I've got to achieve something.
Speaker BI gotta, I gotta score the buckets and make the stats and I've got to do, I've got, I've got to contribute something, you know?
Speaker BYou know, you gotta maybe one up your neighbor, whatever it is, and it's salvation by grace through faith.
Speaker BLike it's, it's not anything that we do.
Speaker BSalvation is, is, it's received.
Speaker BIt's a gift received.
Speaker BIt's not achieved, it's not well.
Speaker AAnd I think that's the mind blowing concept too, of God's love for us, right, Is that we're so performance based on love.
Speaker AAnd as much as Rebecca could say she loves me, I guarantee you I can do some things tonight that she may not love me so much tomorrow.
Speaker AAnd that love may wane.
Speaker AWhere God knew all these details, right?
Speaker AHe knew all the dirty.
Speaker AAnd he said, I still, and I still love you perfectly.
Speaker AI don't love you any less.
Speaker ALess or more.
Speaker AYou can't, you can't gain his love or a parent, right, can be proud of you or.
Speaker AHey, I, I man, I love my son or I love my daughter because of you.
Speaker AMaybe you're a good son or maybe you do things for them, or maybe you're just compliant as a kid.
Speaker AAnd that's because our mind is so trained, because we.
Speaker AOur love is reciprocated.
Speaker AIt's very rare when somebody loves you and spoke of you.
Speaker AAnd I mean, when you're.
Speaker AMaybe you're little, your parents are kind of forced to love you, right?
Speaker ABut as you get older and that relationship is no longer required, sometimes you have a waning, or parents are estranged from their kids.
Speaker ABut God is like, there's nothing you can do to me or for me.
Speaker AI need.
Speaker AHe's all sufficient right in himself.
Speaker AHe doesn't need us.
Speaker AHe doesn't need us to go to church.
Speaker AHe doesn't need us to tithe.
Speaker AHe doesn't need us to run freedom that lasts.
Speaker AHe doesn't need us to lead groups.
Speaker AHe allows us to be used by him to, to, you know, for the kingdom.
Speaker ABut he's all sufficient, right, because he's.
Speaker AHe's deity, He's God.
Speaker AAnd that's what's just amazing.
Speaker ABecause our mind can't comprehend unconditional love.
Speaker ATruly.
Speaker AYeah, I can't because I'm conditional.
Speaker ALike, if they quit paying me tomorrow, I'm not going to work.
Speaker ALike, that's it.
Speaker BAnd if we, I think if we truly grasp that, like, if we truly would just wrap our head around it as much as possible, I think that would.
Speaker BThat, that could be our driving force or primary motivation for how we live this Christian life.
Speaker BLike, you know, working out our salvation with trembling and fear.
Speaker BLike, I think that should be like our, Our.
Speaker BWhy, you know, so to speak.
Speaker BYou know, because he loves me unconditionally.
Speaker BLike, truly.
Speaker BLike a true, a pure, true love that I don't.
Speaker AYeah, I think I don't know how to give.
Speaker ALike, a lot of people just would think, like, I don't want to cheat on my wife because that might ruin my relationship.
Speaker ARelationship.
Speaker AI think, you know, maturity will get you to the point where I don't want to cheat on my wife because I love my wife.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd Right.
Speaker AI don't want to sin against my God because I love my God.
Speaker AAnd you look at Joseph, right?
Speaker AAnd that was his motivation.
Speaker AIt wasn't getting caught.
Speaker AIt was that, how can I do this against God?
Speaker ALike, because the relationship that we have, I can't do that.
Speaker AWhere a lot of us just operate on a fear system or, like, I don't want to lose.
Speaker BI don't want to get caught.
Speaker AYeah, I don't want to get caught.
Speaker ACaught.
Speaker ABut that's, that's an immature response.
Speaker AThe mature response is because he loves me and I love him.
Speaker BLove me first and I love him.
Speaker AAnd I don't want to ruin that relationship that we have.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BEphesians 2, 8 and 9.
Speaker BFor by grace you have been saved through faith.
Speaker BAnd it's right there.
Speaker BAnd this is not your own doing.
Speaker BIt is the gift of God, not of a result of works so that no one may boast.
Speaker BAnd I think that ver.
Speaker BThose verses right there, like it's quite clear there.
Speaker BLike, it's nothing that I can do, nothing I can earn.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's a gift given by grace.
Speaker BIt's his grace.
Speaker BAnd I think that's in the exchange.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BThat's one.
Speaker BGod is.
Speaker BGod is grace.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIs that one of the, the four pillars?
Speaker ANo, it's just the first one is God is holy.
Speaker AGod is just.
Speaker AGod is love.
Speaker AAnd then I always forget the last one.
Speaker BYeah, I thought grace was one or some one of those.
Speaker BBut, but it's, it's, it's his grace.
Speaker BAnd I think that's a concept of we don't understand either because, like, we're not very graceful people.
Speaker BLike we don't give grace or we don't give mercy like he does.
Speaker BLike we don't.
Speaker BAnd it obviously all originates from love, right?
Speaker BThat's the love that he has for us.
Speaker BRomans 3:28 says, For.
Speaker BFor we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.
Speaker BTitus 3:5.
Speaker BHe saves us not because of works done by us in righteousness, but according to his work own mercy by the washing of regeneration and renewal of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker BAnd so again, it's, it's his doing.
Speaker BHe saved us not because we're good, but because he's good, because he loves us.
Speaker BAnd it's a love that we just, we can't fathom.
Speaker BWe don't, we don't.
Speaker BWe don't understand his love.
Speaker BWe don't understand that true love.
Speaker AWell, I think even in the.
Speaker AAs you would say, the.
Speaker AI forget the.
Speaker AThere's a Christian word for the legalism of the church, right?
Speaker AIf we could work our way to heaven, or we could do certain things, or we could tithe our way to heaven, we certainly would boast about it and we certainly would say, well, I did this or I did that, and we do it anyway, right?
Speaker ABecause we, we're filled with pride and we think there's level of spirituality.
Speaker ALike, well, I'm, I'm not.
Speaker AI mean, I'm beyond that person.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd then we're just like, he hates pride.
Speaker AAnd we're like, ah, well, we can't, you know, we remember the story.
Speaker AYou know, like, I'm glad I'm not like that sinner, you know, and that's how we are.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause really, we are like, wow, he's praying like this.
Speaker ABut I mean, I, I could pray so much better.
Speaker AAnd that's partially why I did.
Speaker AI dislike public praying, but I, I know it's biblical, but because I don't trust my.
Speaker AI mean, I say things that I normally would not say in a private prayer.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AJust being honest because I just.
Speaker AIt's a temptation to impress the people I'm praying in front of.
Speaker AAnd that's, I guess, my own spiritual flaw or spiritual sin.
Speaker ABut it's, it's just hard for the reality to be.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIt's real.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhen I'm talking by myself, I don't, I don't care about anybody else.
Speaker AI'm not, I'm just praying.
Speaker BYou're not trying to impress yourself.
Speaker ACorrect?
Speaker AIt's hard to pray.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIt's hard to pray with a bunch of people and not like, if you're with, you know, pastor.
Speaker AAnd I mean, it's just, what is he thinking about me?
Speaker AWhat am I going to say?
Speaker AOr you have to do the Sunday morning prayer and I go up there and you're like, oh, hope.
Speaker AWhat I said is, I don't say a bad word or, you know, whatever.
Speaker AThere's all kind of things that go through your mind.
Speaker AYeah, I'm sorry, take that out.
Speaker ABut when you're just privately praying, it's just a, you know, a personal conversation between you and God.
Speaker ASo just, it's just different.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, 100%.
Speaker BI mean, if grace could be earned, it's.
Speaker BIt's no longer.
Speaker BIs longer grace, but.
Speaker AOh, go ahead, Go ahead.
Speaker BNo, go ahead.
Speaker AAnd I would say the, the, the real big thing too, for me, like body would say, is, you know, if we could lose our salvation, we certainly would.
Speaker BOh, 100.
Speaker AAnd I know we deal with somebody at freedom the last that, you know, really struggles with the idea of losing salvation.
Speaker AAnd that's, that's.
Speaker AI mean, he doesn't give us a gift to take it away because now we're basing it on our works.
Speaker AThat's not salvation.
Speaker AAnd really, I don't know if you can be saved and, and think that way.
Speaker AOr maybe you're just not convinced that what he's done is finished.
Speaker ABecause when you truly believe it's finished, like, I don't ask.
Speaker ARebecca, hey, are we still married today?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AI.
Speaker AWe got in a fight and I blew up at you.
Speaker AAre we still married?
Speaker ALike, well, yeah, you know, we just messed up, like, move on.
Speaker AAnd even more so too.
Speaker APerfect God.
Speaker AYeah, like you're in the family of God.
Speaker AAs much as my parents may want to disown me, you know, in earlier days, right.
Speaker AThey can't because they had.
Speaker AI mean, I'm in the 23 chromosomes or that's it.
Speaker AThat's locked in.
Speaker AIt's baked into the pie.
Speaker ASorry.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BIt was funny because we were having that discussion in one of the.
Speaker BIn group for FTL and talking about how, you know, salvation is.
Speaker BIt's a permanent.
Speaker BYou know, it's.
Speaker BYou don't, you don't lose it.
Speaker BAnd you know, one of the guys was, you know, struggling with the, you know, that you could lose it.
Speaker BAnd I won't say who, but it's, it was funny because one of the, one of the guys said, yeah, but God, you know, God doesn't take it away because he's not an Indian giver.
Speaker BI thought that was funny.
Speaker BBut it's true though.
Speaker BI mean, I mean, if, if he saved you, why would he unsave you?
Speaker BOr like, if he, if he's, if he saves you, how could I lose what he gave me?
Speaker BLike, how could I lose that salvation?
Speaker BWhich, and why would they call it eternal life?
Speaker BLike, why would he say, I give you eternal life?
Speaker BLike, if it's not eternal, like, if you can lose it, it's not eternal.
Speaker BLike, you just lost it.
Speaker BAnd if you can lose it, like you said, then you must be able to earn it back.
Speaker BWhich means that's not, that's not true salvation.
Speaker BBecause true salvation does not come through any type of merit that I can do.
Speaker ANo works, right?
Speaker AWe believe in a no works religion, right?
Speaker AIf I never went to church again, I never read my Bible, which obviously.
Speaker BThose things would be evidence that you are saved.
Speaker BBut it's not, it's not the prerequisite for salvation.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BThere's no, the prerequisite for salvation is this faith and repentance.
Speaker BLike, it's just believing.
Speaker BLike, call on the name of Jesus and like, believe in the resurrection, just like it said in Romans 10, 9, and you'll be saved.
Speaker BThere's nothing I can do to.
Speaker BHe's already done the work.
Speaker BHe finished it's done.
Speaker AI think that's what Paul says too, right?
Speaker AHe talks about your works.
Speaker ALike your works doesn't make you a Christian, but by your works, you, you are known that you are a Christian because you are compelled to do things for the person that you love that saved you.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AIt's, it's, you know, even animals, you save a little animal, they appreciate it.
Speaker AI mean, that's why I think Rebecca, you know, little Fernie hated me and loved Rebecca because he had a thorn and she took it out and that dog would do anything for her.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd sadly, we're not the same when, when we think of what cross Christ did for us on the cross.
Speaker AYeah, sadly.
Speaker ASo one of the, one of the.
Speaker BThings that a lot of people like to talk about is that, you know, they try to talk, talk away or explain away that Jesus had a physical death and was buried in that he physically rose, bodily rose.
Speaker BA lot of people kind of will say, well, he maybe he swooned, he didn't quite die, or, you know, or they, you know, he didn't, he didn't really die some.
Speaker BHe just kind of faked his death or something, you know, something crazy like that.
Speaker BBut that's not true.
Speaker BWe have the Scriptures and we have First Corinthians 15, 3, 4, says, for I delivered to you as a first importance what I also received, that Christ died first.
Speaker BAnd so he died for our sins in accordance with the Scriptures.
Speaker BAnd that's just talking about, hey, this was prophesied that he was buried.
Speaker BOkay, so that's a physical burying.
Speaker BThat he was raised on the third day in accordance with the scriptures.
Speaker BSo it was physical.
Speaker BIt was a physical death, physical burial and the physical resurrection.
Speaker BHe, he, he wrote.
Speaker BI mean, he was seen by people.
Speaker BHe even told.
Speaker BWas it Thomas?
Speaker BHey, put your, put your hand here.
Speaker BPut your hand in the hole in my hand, you know, and, and Thomas said, oh, my Lord and my God.
Speaker BLike I believe, you know, he walked with the guys to mae us, you know, physically talking to them.
Speaker BI mean, it was physical.
Speaker AWell, what's interesting to me is that you're saying that the Romans would allow themselves to not finish the job in crucifixion, right?
Speaker ATrue.
Speaker BThey were experts, bro, in killing.
Speaker AAnd they would not just, okay, we're going to let this one slide.
Speaker AWe won't kill him.
Speaker AWe'll just beat him up pretty bad.
Speaker AWe'll put him in this tomb.
Speaker ABut he's still kind of alive.
Speaker ALike, there's no way that would have happened.
Speaker ALike they wouldn't allow it.
Speaker AThey, and they even said, like, we're going to, we're going to tell this story that.
Speaker ASo we better put a guard there because if he gets out, it's going to be worse than what we did to him.
Speaker ASo we could make sure we're going to roll a big stone and we're going to guard our reputation.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd they would not allow their reputation just looking at it from that moment in time, the Romans would not allow the reputation to be at stake to say, well, let's just hurt them.
Speaker AAnd you know, like the casino movie where they.
Speaker AHe pretend he's beating him up and he's really not.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd that, I mean, I guarantee you they made sure, like they were gonna.
Speaker AAnd they're like, no, he's dead.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AHe's.
Speaker AHe gave up the ghost.
Speaker AAnd he talks about that too, right?
Speaker AHe cries out it is finished.
Speaker AAnd he gives up the ghost, saying it like.
Speaker AAnd that literally means he's.
Speaker AHe's gone, he's dead.
Speaker AAnd they mourned for him, right?
Speaker AThey didn't falsely mourn for that.
Speaker AHe wasn't dead.
Speaker AI mean, they, they gave him the embalment and they did all that for him, Prepared his body, wrapped him up and he just.
Speaker BWell, and if you really think about the crucifixion, I know, like the first.
Speaker BWas it the first movie that Mel Gibson did?
Speaker BThe Passion.
Speaker APassion.
Speaker BI watched it.
Speaker BIt's pretty, it's pretty hard to watch.
Speaker BBut you really think about it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, Jesus experienced tremendous physical torment.
Speaker BI mean, just in the flogging and the beating and the cat of night tales or whatever they call it.
Speaker BI mean, even just after that, before the crucifixion, fiction.
Speaker BI mean, he was dying.
Speaker BLike, he was.
Speaker BHe had probably extreme blood loss at that point.
Speaker BI mean.
Speaker BAnd then, you know, they hammer nails into your hands and feet, you know, stick the corn, the crown of thorns and.
Speaker BAnd I mean, he couldn't hardly breathe up there.
Speaker BLike, that was an excruciating death.
Speaker BI mean, I can't even imagine what, what that was like.
Speaker BI mean, I probably would have died just because I'm.
Speaker BI'm a wimp, you know, I'm soft, bro, compared to that generation.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker BThat generation, I mean, they.
Speaker BI mean, they walked from Egypt to this to.
Speaker BTo the promised land.
Speaker BAnd I'm just like, I, I walk around the block and I'm like, bro, I'm good.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI walk into church and like, yeah, it's hot today.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBut Yeah, I mean that just, just the, the torment alone that he had, the physical torment that he had.
Speaker BI mean he almost probably died just from that prior to the crucifixion.
Speaker BI just don't understand how you can think that he did not die.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker AYeah, I don't think anybody would you swoon that in history, right?
Speaker AThat the Romans, crucified, lived.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThey're probably undefeated in killing people.
Speaker BWell, and Pontius Pilate, I mean he was a political leader.
Speaker BLike he was not about to mess up.
Speaker BI'm sure he, that was an elected position or whatever.
Speaker BI mean however he got to that position, I mean he's not going to want to give that up.
Speaker BAnd as soon as he washed his hands, I almost feel bad for him.
Speaker BLike dude, why did you do that?
Speaker BYou almost let him go.
Speaker BLike you almost like saved, you know.
Speaker BBut know it was written and it was, it was prophesied.
Speaker AAnd that's what's crazy, right?
Speaker ALike God knew that he would do that and he allowed it.
Speaker ALike he, he knew that he would to his will, as he said would, he would go along with it.
Speaker BWell, it's almost like even you know, cuz.
Speaker BCuz the Lord, I mean he's working in everybody's life and it's, it's interesting because his wife had the dreams, right?
Speaker BHe's like, I dreamed about this man today, like have nothing to do with him.
Speaker BLike his wife's like dude, like no, like leave him alone.
Speaker BAnd he almost let him go and then he ended up, okay, we'll give Brabus up, go for it.
Speaker AAnd that's what's crazy, right?
Speaker AHe gave up somebody that was a criminal for the Son of God.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd then I think I just love that position too.
Speaker AOn the cross when you had the two thieves and they both had the same chance, right.
Speaker AAnd one chose to put his faith in Jesus Christ and the other said, well if he was God.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd I think that's the healing part too.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIs that people aren't healed because they truly don't believe.
Speaker AAnd he didn't understand everything but he realized like man, this is the Son of God and he's.
Speaker ABecause of that faith, he said, today I will see you in paradise.
Speaker AAnd what a, what a position to be on.
Speaker AAnd you're an absolute torment getting crucified and then the next moment you leave this world and you're, you're with you with the Savior.
Speaker BThat'd be amazing.
Speaker AYeah, that's like you didn't live a life.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AA reputable life.
Speaker AOf any kind.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI really should diffuse the whole works salvation right there.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BHe had no chance to come off that cross and what could he do for God?
Speaker BHe couldn't get baptized.
Speaker BHe couldn't.
Speaker BHe couldn't do any works.
Speaker ALike it wasn't going to no mission.
Speaker AHe was no missionary.
Speaker AHe didn't tithe.
Speaker BNope.
Speaker BDidn't go to church.
Speaker AHe didn't need to.
Speaker ANope.
Speaker AHe was boom, in paradise.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AIf that doesn't tell you, right.
Speaker AThat it's.
Speaker AThere's nothing you can do.
Speaker AI don't know what tells you.
Speaker BPretty clear.
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Speaker BHe was seen by 500, right.
Speaker B1 Corinthians 15:6.
Speaker BThen he appeared to more than 500 brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive.
Speaker BWell at that time, through though some have fallen asleep.
Speaker BI mean they had.
Speaker BHe had witnesses.
Speaker BHe had people that witnessed him.
Speaker BI mean he had the, the road to Emmaus.
Speaker BHe, you know, he was talking to the two disciples and then they didn't even recognize him, which is kind of odd.
Speaker BMary saw him, right.
Speaker BAnd then he was in, he appeared in the room with the disciples and that's where Thomas was going to put his.
Speaker BHis finger in his hand.
Speaker BAnd then he appeared to the 500.
Speaker BSo he appeared to.
Speaker BHe.
Speaker BThere was a.
Speaker BPeople saw him like afterwards.
Speaker BLike it's not, it's not just making it this up.
Speaker BLike it's people's other words, witnesses.
Speaker AI think that's what Paul said, right?
Speaker ALike this wasn't done in the corner.
Speaker ALike we all know this happened.
Speaker ALike I'm not, I shouldn't have to persuade you that like we went to Chili's today.
Speaker ALike we were both there, bro.
Speaker ALike, yeah, maybe you don't want to admit you, you know, you had a burger, but hey, we both did, you know, we both had burger fries.
Speaker AI don't know why that takes convincing, but yeah, apparently.
Speaker AAnd then even Matthew 28:5,6.
Speaker ABut in the angel said to the woman, do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified.
Speaker AHe is not here.
Speaker AFree is risen, as he said.
Speaker ACome see the place where he lay and further evidence.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd the earthquake to move the stone himself, right?
Speaker AGod.
Speaker AAnd to bring him to life, someone.
Speaker BHad to be heavy.
Speaker BThey had to lock him in there.
Speaker BLike you said, the Romans, they were professionals.
Speaker BThey knew what they were doing.
Speaker AThey weren't going to let him go.
Speaker ANo, no.
Speaker AAnd that guy, I don't know whatever happened to him, you know, the guy that was guard, they might have killed him, you know what I mean?
Speaker ACuz that was such a right powerful thing.
Speaker ALike, well, you let Jesus out and it opened up.
Speaker AI really think they believe that he would be resurrected.
Speaker ALike they knew that it was a possibility because if it wasn't, they wouldn't have guarded the, the tomb.
Speaker AI mean, I think they guarded it from people stealing him.
Speaker AStealing the body, but.
Speaker BOr stealing it and claiming that he was alive or he.
Speaker AYeah, you know, but yeah, that's what's crazy too is like just like the folding of the napkin, right?
Speaker ALike when they're eating and just like the way his, his body lay and the clothes that they had covering him like signified that he's coming back.
Speaker AJust like as they would in the Jewish tradition of a meal, you know, just the way you put your napkin means like I want to still smash or I'm done eating.
Speaker AAnd he left it in a way that says, I'm coming back.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd what a powerful.
Speaker AAnd that's what's crazy about the Bible, right?
Speaker AThere's so much symbolism in there, I think especially when you go to Israel because you see it from a Jewish perspective and it makes sense where we look at everything through American eyes and it doesn't always tell the full Western cult context of the picture that he is portraying.
Speaker BSo yeah, I love that he's coming back, man.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BWho knows, we might be pretty close, right?
Speaker AI think so.
Speaker AI think we won't get the formaldehyde.
Speaker AI think we'll, we'll surpass that.
Speaker BYou know, there was, there was an episode of, I think it was the Oprah Winfrey show and she, she was, I don't know, in the middle of an interview or something, but some woman stood up I think and said, well, well, Jesus is the only way to get to heaven.
Speaker BAnd then I think Oprah got like super offended and said, no, what are you talking about?
Speaker BAbout there, there's this, this way and this way and this way, and that's that meme, you know, taco for you, taco for you.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker BAnd so I'm just here to debunk that and just say Jesus is the only way.
Speaker BI mean, it's quite clear in scripture.
Speaker BI mean, nobody else died for me but Jesus.
Speaker BJesus died for me.
Speaker BNobody offers me salvation.
Speaker BThat's the other thing, too, is like you look at other religions.
Speaker BOther religions don't offer salvation in that.
Speaker BIn that fashion.
Speaker BBut John 14, 14, six.
Speaker BI mean, this sums it up right here.
Speaker BIt says, jesus, say unto him, I.
Speaker BThis is Jesus speaking.
Speaker BI am the way, the truth, and the life, and nobody comes to the Father except through me.
Speaker BAnd that's.
Speaker BThat's the truth.
Speaker BWhen you said that the veil was torn, that was torn because Jesus said it was finished.
Speaker BBut we have to go through Jesus.
Speaker BJesus is the one that died.
Speaker BJesus is the one that was buried and resurrected.
Speaker BSo he's the way.
Speaker BYou know, I know, and I know the disciples were like, where are you going?
Speaker BI don't know where you.
Speaker BHow do I know where you're going?
Speaker BGoing.
Speaker BWell, he's like, I am the way.
Speaker BLike, you just have to know me, know who I am, trust in me, believe in me.
Speaker BSo he is the only way.
Speaker BThere is no other way.
Speaker BThere's no other.
Speaker BThere's no other deity on this planet that can save us.
Speaker BNone.
Speaker BThis is kind of like, you know, everybody says, well, don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Speaker BOr, you know, you need to diversify your portfolio for retirement.
Speaker BBut this is one instance where it's like, no, Jesus is the way.
Speaker BAnd like, that's.
Speaker BI'm putting all my eggs in that basket because I know when I die, that's where I'm going.
Speaker BI'm going to go be with him.
Speaker ANo, I'm.
Speaker AWell, I think you think of it too, as when he says, I am the way.
Speaker AAnd we.
Speaker AI think it makes us feel good to say, well, there's other.
Speaker AThere's multiple ways to get to heaven.
Speaker ABut I really think when the.
Speaker AWhen Jesus was crucified and he was risen again, that the light bulb turned on for the disciples, right?
Speaker AThey saw the full picture of what he was talking about.
Speaker AThey didn't understand it because they were like, why?
Speaker AWhy is he saying that?
Speaker ALike.
Speaker ALike, what do you mean, I am the way?
Speaker AOr what do you mean he's going to tear down this temple and build it up again?
Speaker AThree days?
Speaker ALike, they thought of literal temple and he was referring to himself.
Speaker AAnd so I imagine a lot of light bulbs went on for them once he was.
Speaker AAnd all the things that he had said and taught them like, oh wow, okay, that, now that makes, it makes sense to me where I didn't really understand like what he was talking about.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AJust like you, you know, we as an adult.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI can look back at my parents and okay, I understand why you didn't buy me Jordans.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike you were trying to pay, put food on the table.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd you give it context and it makes sense to you.
Speaker AI think partially for them too.
Speaker AA lot of light bulbs turned on when like, oh, wow, he is the way.
Speaker ALike that is the Messiah.
Speaker AThat is.
Speaker AWow, that is the son of God.
Speaker AAnd even this, the, you know, the Roman soldier that was there at his crucifixion said, truly this man is a son, the son of God.
Speaker ALike he was like, wow.
Speaker AAnd I don't know if he believed it's on it like he did, but that what the actions that he, he died and how he died, he was like, wow, he, he is who he says he is.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI would almost say he probably did get saved.
Speaker BI mean that's belief, right?
Speaker AYeah, he believes he's the son of God.
Speaker ALike, like, wow, that's, that's powerful.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BFirst or I'm sorry, first Timothy 2.
Speaker B5 Says, for there is one God and there is one mediator between God, God and men.
Speaker BThe man Christ Jesus.
Speaker BAnd again, that's the mediator.
Speaker BThe vial is torn.
Speaker BWe have Jesus as the mediator between us and God.
Speaker BThat's why we can come boldly to the throne of God because of what Jesus did.
Speaker AAmen.
Speaker BActs 4:12 says, and there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men, by which we must be saved.
Speaker BAnd so there it is.
Speaker BI mean it's quite clear in scripture that Jesus is, is the way.
Speaker BHe's the only way.
Speaker BAnd yeah, it might sound, you know, I'm kind of, what do they call it, like close minded or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker BThat's fine, I don't really care.
Speaker BBut that, because Jesus is the only way.
Speaker BIt's not a, it's not up for debate.
Speaker BHe's the only way.
Speaker A100 I think.
Speaker AAnd there's, you know, I tell my kids, like, don't speak in absolutes.
Speaker ALike everybody does this, everybody does that.
Speaker ABut when it comes to Christianity, there are absolutely absolute truth and there's absolutely closed mindedness.
Speaker ABecause when you have the Truth.
Speaker AThere's no open mindedness.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABecause it can't be.
Speaker ABecause the truth is the truth, no matter what.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd that's.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker AHe referred to himself as the truth because he is.
Speaker AAnd that people will even say now, is that the gospel truth?
Speaker AThat's what how people used to talk.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALike, oh, is that true?
Speaker ALike, that's the gospel truth, meaning that the gospel is real and it's truth.
Speaker AAnd people normally believe that.
Speaker AAnd we live in a society that your own truth is your truth, when we know that it's still the gospel truth is the way we would say it.
Speaker BWell, and that's.
Speaker BThat's our culture too, right?
Speaker BOur culture right now is, you know, you have to be inclusive.
Speaker BAnd it's like, no, bro.
Speaker BLike, it's exclusive.
Speaker BJesus is.
Speaker BHe's the way.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BThere's no debate on that one.
Speaker BMaybe I got to be inclusive on, you know, trying to.
Speaker BThree different taco spots.
Speaker BYeah, but that's different.
Speaker BLike, it's.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AWe're talking.
Speaker BWe're talking about eternity here.
Speaker BAnd I'm gonna put.
Speaker BI'm gonna put all my eggs in that basket because I.
Speaker BMy soul's at stake here.
Speaker BLike, that's my soul, bro.
Speaker BWhere am I going?
Speaker BThere was a dude yesterday at the taco store and he had a shirt on, a T shirt.
Speaker BAnd he said, hell.
Speaker BHell is like a dance floor.
Speaker BAnd he had some dude dancing.
Speaker BAnd I'm just thinking, bro, like, you just deceived.
Speaker BLike, I feel sorry for you, bro.
Speaker ALike, yeah, that's not gonna be some dance floor.
Speaker BIt's not gonna be.
Speaker BThat's gonna be a dance floor.
Speaker BYou want to be, bro.
Speaker AYeah, that's.
Speaker AThat's not good.
Speaker AAnd just you have first Peter 1:3 here.
Speaker ABlessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker AAccording to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from.
Speaker AFrom the dead.
Speaker AI mean, as you know, as we go.
Speaker AI mean, I don't know if you want to do anything about the mediator here.
Speaker AYeah, well, I just.
Speaker AI mean, that's.
Speaker AAnd like you said, that's the veil too, right?
Speaker AThat's that we can have the same access to the Father as Jesus did.
Speaker AAnd that's what he said in John.
Speaker AHe said that we might.
Speaker AI want my.
Speaker AMy prayer requests.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AWhat did Jesus pray for?
Speaker AIs that my people that you've given me here on Earth, that they would have what you and I have, they would enjoy this relationship, right?
Speaker ALike.
Speaker ALike we would go to Monal's and experience the fried chicken together.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AEven greater than that.
Speaker ALike, this relationship that I can have with my father, I want them to have as well.
Speaker AI'm like, wow, what a powerful picture.
Speaker BIt really is.
Speaker BBecause, I mean, you.
Speaker BYou really think about, like, back in the Old Testament, you had the high priest and they had to go and do that sacrifice once a year in the holy of Holies, and they had to go do it, like, a certain way.
Speaker BI mean, they had their, you know, format, and they had to follow it to a T. Had to.
Speaker BYou know, it was probably very stressful, I would think.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker BAnd to think that now that veil's torn because of what Jesus did.
Speaker BI can go directly to the Father.
Speaker BI don't need some.
Speaker BI don't need some priest, some man to hear my sins or try to forgive me of my sins, because, I mean, Jesus already paid for it.
Speaker BI go to him.
Speaker BI go directly to the Father.
Speaker BLike, I go to the source.
Speaker BI don't have to mess around here with, you know, trying to get forgiven here.
Speaker BLike, that's not necessary.
Speaker BIt's not.
Speaker BIt's not even, like, true.
Speaker BIt doesn't.
Speaker BIt's not how it works.
Speaker BI can go directly to God.
Speaker BI can go boldly to the throne.
Speaker AOf grace, or even they would put the Pope.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAs a deity on earth.
Speaker ALike, he is God here.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's the mouthpiece of Jesus or whatever they say.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANo, blasphemous.
Speaker BIt is really.
Speaker BIt really.
Speaker AI mean, they're passing out little.
Speaker AJesus is at freedom, alas.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, I don't want that.
Speaker ALike, I just think it's taking him lightly, and they can laugh about it, but.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI just would not.
Speaker AYou know, that's my conviction.
Speaker ALike, there's one in my car because I think Tony left it in there or something.
Speaker AI'm like, bro, Tony, the shoes.
Speaker AGiving them house.
Speaker AAnd I was like, oh.
Speaker AOh, man.
Speaker BSo.
Speaker BYep.
Speaker BSo Romans 10 just kind of.
Speaker BI guess we can kind of wrap it up here.
Speaker BWe've kind of covered a lot of stuff.
Speaker BJesus is eternal Jesus.
Speaker BHe was not a created being.
Speaker BHe was always.
Speaker BAlways been.
Speaker BHe's.
Speaker BHe was there in creation, which is kind of an amazing thing out.
Speaker BI think that that's covered in.
Speaker BIn.
Speaker BIn the first chapter of John as well.
Speaker BHe made everything.
Speaker BHe made everything that we see visibly or invisibly that we don't see.
Speaker BI mean, the heavens, the.
Speaker BI mean, it's.
Speaker BI think today they had the.
Speaker BThe Space launch thing for the moon thing, right?
Speaker AOh, Elon from NASA.
Speaker AOh, really?
Speaker AI didn't know about that.
Speaker AYeah, the moon looks beautiful out there, by the way.
Speaker BAnd we were kind of watching the video and they were nice.
Speaker BIt was kind of funny.
Speaker BWell, I don't know if I'll go and you tell that because I'll tell you after because I don't know if it's proper for, for the podcast, but they were going, and it's just darkness, bro.
Speaker BLike, it's, we're like, you can't even tell they're moving.
Speaker BBut I'm just like, yeah, that's space.
Speaker BLike, it's just vast.
Speaker BIt's huge.
Speaker BBut can you, I couldn't even imagine being out there.
Speaker AWell, the universe, right?
Speaker BYeah, this is just.
Speaker BBut, but that, Jesus made that, bro.
Speaker BAnd so, and the work was finished, right?
Speaker BJesus completed it.
Speaker BHe said it is finished.
Speaker BAnd when he said it's finished, it means it's finished.
Speaker BIt doesn't mean it's almost finished.
Speaker BI mean, he said it's finished.
Speaker BTake him at his word.
Speaker BAnd we have, you know, grace versus, you know, works based righteousness.
Speaker BAnd it's, it's, it's through his grace.
Speaker BWe can't work for it.
Speaker BWe can't work for that grace.
Speaker BGrace is grace.
Speaker BAnd then we have the, you know, the physical resurrection, physical death.
Speaker BEverything was physical.
Speaker BHe was physically here as a human being.
Speaker BAnd that's, that's what's really interesting to me too because it does describe Scripture, does say that he was tempted in every way that we are tempted.
Speaker BI mean, he experienced everything from, you know, loss, sadness.
Speaker BI mean, when his friend Lazarus died, he wept.
Speaker BYou know, he had all of these different experiences that we have yet with no sin, which is truly amazing.
Speaker BAnd then like, we just, we just covered.
Speaker BHe's, he's our mediator.
Speaker BHe's our, he's our meter between, between us and God.
Speaker BI mean, without him, we cannot go to God boldly through the throne of grace.
Speaker BBut because of what he did, we, we can do that.
Speaker AI mean, I would say like as we close, right?
Speaker AI, I, I would.
Speaker AToday I got an email from, you know, big boss and just saying, you know, enjoy your holiday this, this weekend.
Speaker AAnd had a bunch of rabbits and eggs and I think that's PC, right, for the work culture.
Speaker AAnd I, I just remember Rebecca used to live with his family and the mom would put out clothes and the, the Easter Bunny supposedly would put these out.
Speaker AAnd I think of Satan, right, Using Santa Claus to deviate from you know, Jesus Christ, his birth.
Speaker AAnd I think of what he uses today with the Easter bunny and the eggs and for those that are searching, right?
Speaker AAnd, you know, just talking about Anthony, and you could tell he was searching for something more, something deeper, that you would just look past those Easter eggs, right?
Speaker AAnd you would say, really, why do we celebrate Easter?
Speaker AWhat is the reason why people go to church, whether they go to a false church or they go to a church that truly believes in God.
Speaker ABut why do we celebrate Easter?
Speaker ALike, what happened?
Speaker AAnd as Christians, right, this is a special week for us, right?
Speaker AFriday we will celebrate his crucifixion, and on Sunday, we will.
Speaker AWe will celebrate the risen Savior.
Speaker AAnd I would just hate for people to be amiss, to miss what we're saying on this podcast to say, okay, I'm not a believer.
Speaker AI haven't put my faith in Jesus Christ.
Speaker AI haven't accepted that free gift.
Speaker ABut this Easter, I'm going to really look and search my own heart and say, it's not about Easter eggs.
Speaker AIt's not about Easter bunnies.
Speaker ABut why do people around the world celebrate Easter?
Speaker AA Good Friday and Easter, right?
Speaker AWhat is the purpose?
Speaker AAnd we would call it, right, a resurrection Sunday, because I think that's a much more proper term for it rather than Easter.
Speaker ABut we could all agree that Easter has a deeper meaning.
Speaker BYeah, it's well known around the world.
Speaker AAs Easter, but correct, like, we're not hiding eggs.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker AIt's deeper.
Speaker AAnd that really deviates from what Jesus Christ did.
Speaker AAnd the importance of.
Speaker AOf this day as we celebrate this.
Speaker BWeek doesn't even compare, bro.
Speaker BYeah, I. I would just wrap up here with a couple verses.
Speaker BI want to go to John 11:25.
Speaker BIt says, Jesus said to her, I am the resurrection and the life.
Speaker BWhoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live.
Speaker BAnd then wrap up with this verse here.
Speaker BFirst Peter 1:3.
Speaker B1.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker B1:3.
Speaker BSays, Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker BAccording to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope.
Speaker BThat's a living hope, not a dead hope.
Speaker BIt's living.
Speaker AAmen.
Speaker BThrough the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead.
Speaker BAnd it's that resurrection, bro.
Speaker BThere's a movie, it's the Case for Christ, really good movie, where it's Lee Strobel, who.
Speaker BHe was.
Speaker BUsed to be a. I think it was a New York Times or Chicago Times.
Speaker AChicago, yeah.
Speaker AJournalist.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd it's funny because he did not believe he was a Complete atheist, which.
Speaker BThat's a whole nother story.
Speaker BI don't believe that there's true atheists out there.
Speaker BAnyway, he was talking to some dude at his.
Speaker BIn his office who was like, yeah, resurrection's like, where it's at.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker BYou figure out the resurrection, if you can.
Speaker BIf you can debunk the resurrection.
Speaker BIt's a house of cars.
Speaker BYou just.
Speaker BIt, It.
Speaker BIt's gone.
Speaker BIt's Christianity's done.
Speaker BSo he's like, okay.
Speaker BHe just takes a challenge.
Speaker BI'm like, bro, like, you think you're gonna do it?
Speaker BLike, this has been around for millennia.
Speaker BLike, you're.
Speaker BAnyway, yeah, he tries to do it.
Speaker BIn the process, yeah, he.
Speaker BHe becomes born again.
Speaker BLike, he becomes a believer.
Speaker BAnd so it's a really good movie.
Speaker BI would recommend it.
Speaker BIt's pretty good.
Speaker BAnd it's funny because he.
Speaker BWhen he was doing his research, I think a lot of it was, you know, he was finding out and learning about Jesus.
Speaker BHe was learning about the documents that we have, our Bible, but they were.
Speaker BThey're physical documents that we have.
Speaker BI mean, there's, I don't know, 20 some thousand pieces of.
Speaker BOf scripture.
Speaker BI mean, whether they're that literal.
Speaker BYeah, I mean, but I mean, I've been to the Bible.
Speaker BI've seen some of them.
Speaker BIt's amazing.
Speaker BJust be right there.
Speaker BThat's the word of God right there.
Speaker BBut through all of that, and.
Speaker BBut then he comes to the conclusion, and the conclusion was this.
Speaker BWhen he went, he finally said, okay, yeah, I think I, I'm.
Speaker BI think he was kind of like, I'm believing.
Speaker BAnd then it really hit him when he said, well, but why did he die for us?
Speaker BAnd then it dawned on him, because then they told him, well, because he loves you.
Speaker BAnd he was just blown away.
Speaker BAnd then I think that was kind of his.
Speaker BI think that might have been his moment of, like, I got just clicked for him.
Speaker BBut it's that love that we were talking about.
Speaker BJust when you understand God's love for you, he truly loves you.
Speaker BI know, you know, we got Jeff, Jesus loves you and I.
Speaker BBut I don't think he's saying it flippantly.
Speaker BHe's saying it.
Speaker BHe's saying it sincerely.
Speaker BReally, he means it because it's true.
Speaker BBecause that is the truth.
Speaker BJesus does love you.
Speaker BAnd if we would just take that to heart and really grasp it, even as a Christian, if we would just grasp that, I think we'd be better Christians because we'd be motivated by that love to want to do better.
Speaker BWe'd work out our salvation with trembling and fear not work for it, but work it out.
Speaker BBut anyway, that's the truth of it.
Speaker BThe resurrection is where it's at.
Speaker BThe resurrection is where all of Christianity hinges on.
Speaker BAnd that resurrection is true, bro.
Speaker BAnd the cool thing is he's not only resurrected, but he's coming back.
Speaker AAnd what was crazy about that movie, I think of a line that he had said, because back in those days, journalism had integrity, right?
Speaker AYou couldn't publish a story that wasn't true.
Speaker AYou get fired.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd he.
Speaker AIn that movie, there's a scene where there's a.
Speaker AA sign on their.
Speaker AThey have a break room.
Speaker AAnd it said, if your mom told you, make sure you verify.
Speaker ASo the person you trust the most, make sure that you verify that story.
Speaker ATo make sure.
Speaker AIf your mom tells you she loves you, verify.
Speaker ABecause it was so important.
Speaker AI think that's what he was trying to do.
Speaker AHe was trying to unverify and he looked at the Roman crucifixion medically, and he's like, blown away as to like, wow, this all lines up to what he said.
Speaker ASo I hope, I mean, really, for those of you maybe that are searching, I really hope this is a.
Speaker AA week where you examine your own heart and you say, am I going to heaven or am I not?
Speaker AAnd if I'm not, you know, I would like to know how I can get to heaven.
Speaker AAnd I think we've laid out some verses here in the gospel, and it's a really simple process.
Speaker ALike the thief on the cross, right?
Speaker AYeah, I believe.
Speaker BYou know, I was telling you this a little bit earlier, but this episode, the Lord kind of laid it impressed upon my heart because we have all these world religions and these world religions, it's really hard to speak to some.
Speaker BSome of these people in these world religions because they're very hardcore into them or however.
Speaker BI mean, I think they were just raised into it, you know, and maybe since they were small and they've just.
Speaker BThey've just been ingrained with it.
Speaker BBut what I would say and challenge you, if you are not of the Christian faith and you're just a part of another world religion, I would challenge you.
Speaker BLike to just consider.
Speaker BJust consider it.
Speaker BConsider what we've said in this episode.
Speaker BConsider the Bible truths.
Speaker BWe are.
Speaker BIt's not my opinion.
Speaker BThese are.
Speaker BThese things aren't my opinion.
Speaker BThese things aren't Sasso's opinions.
Speaker BThese are truths that we're grabbing from the Bible because we see the Bible as an absolute truth.
Speaker BThere's it's completely inerrant.
Speaker BIt was the word of God, the truth of God.
Speaker BIt's like, you know, when you open the Bible, they say it's like God's lips opening up because it's, it's really literally his word coming out of there.
Speaker BSo I would challenge you to just consider if you're, if you're maybe just juggling with the thought of maybe this is true.
Speaker BI would even say, hey, reach out.
Speaker BWe got a contact form on Abundant Life fm.
Speaker BReach out.
Speaker BWe could do a Bible study or if anything, just ask, ask questions.
Speaker BIt's okay to, it's okay to ask questions.
Speaker BAnd, and, and maybe I won't even have all of the answers, but I can get you some answers.
Speaker BBut I would just say continue.
Speaker BConsider, because this, this is truth and you are putting your eternity at stake.
Speaker BYour eternity is at stake.
Speaker BYour soul is at stake.
Speaker BYour soul is going to live somewhere forever.
Speaker BThat's why they call it eternal life or they call it eternal death.
Speaker BWhich one would you, which one would you rather have?
Speaker BAnd so just, I strongly encourage you, ask questions and consider.
Speaker AAmen.
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Speaker ASa.