1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,040 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,040 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,040 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,200 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,720 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,840 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,840 In this podcast, you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,420 Their stories, in many cases of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:33,420 --> 00:00:34,700 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:34,860 --> 00:00:38,140 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:38,620 --> 00:00:41,660 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:43,180 Hello, good people. 16 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:47,900 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:51,940 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:51,940 --> 00:00:57,980 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:00:57,980 --> 00:01:00,220 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:00,220 --> 00:01:04,900 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:05,460 --> 00:01:13,940 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern time at YouTube.com heavenerthchurch. 22 00:01:14,980 --> 00:01:19,860 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 23 00:01:19,860 --> 00:01:24,580 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 24 00:01:25,230 --> 00:01:31,950 and on the website, which is heavenearthchurch.org now here is 25 00:01:31,950 --> 00:01:37,630 Heaven Earth Church pastor Ross Stackhouse with part four of 26 00:01:37,630 --> 00:01:43,550 his message series, Eliminating Hurry, a movement of 27 00:01:43,550 --> 00:01:44,190 apprentices. 28 00:01:46,430 --> 00:01:48,670 Lord, help us to hear your voice. 29 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,440 We could work hard and strive so hard and yet we would not receive 30 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:06,400 the things that you have to give us if we just sit with you and 31 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,400 receive what you have to reveal to us. 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:10,560 So help us to do that. 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,400 Help us to not just be a scattered bunch of individuals in 34 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:15,840 a room. 35 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:16,790 Help us to be a community. 36 00:02:16,940 --> 00:02:20,780 Community of people giving special attention to you. 37 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:26,140 I ask specifically that you would give us rest. 38 00:02:29,340 --> 00:02:34,460 Rest in Jesus name, Amen. 39 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:42,700 Have you ever lived with someone, had a roommate partner, 40 00:02:43,380 --> 00:02:48,740 and as you were living with them, their way of life, their rhythms 41 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:51,300 of life and your way of life collided? 42 00:02:53,220 --> 00:02:56,740 You had a roommate that was maybe difficult. 43 00:02:58,660 --> 00:03:00,900 Don't look to the person next to you. 44 00:03:02,100 --> 00:03:04,620 Some of you are like, I've been married for 30 years, we're 45 00:03:04,620 --> 00:03:05,620 still colliding. 46 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:10,410 So I live with a great group of guys. 47 00:03:10,410 --> 00:03:13,330 When I was a sophomore at Purdue, we played in a band together. 48 00:03:13,330 --> 00:03:15,570 Yeah, we did that thing well. 49 00:03:16,130 --> 00:03:20,330 Great buddies though we were, none of us were very clean in our 50 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:21,010 way of life. 51 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:26,730 My stepmom Patty, saying, amen if you went to our house sophomore 52 00:03:26,730 --> 00:03:28,170 year, we called it the Animal House. 53 00:03:28,170 --> 00:03:29,090 It was not good. 54 00:03:31,490 --> 00:03:32,890 But we had one roommate. 55 00:03:32,890 --> 00:03:35,180 God love him, he. 56 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:38,940 He didn't want to contribute so much to tasks around the house. 57 00:03:38,940 --> 00:03:42,980 And one day I was like, hey man, could you maybe help like take 58 00:03:42,980 --> 00:03:43,620 out the trash? 59 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:45,500 And he said, I just don't do that, man. 60 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:53,700 So his way of life, his, his, his way of living was colliding with 61 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:55,900 mine and it was encroaching upon my peace. 62 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:59,300 And so I said, you know, I think I want to show him what it's 63 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:01,340 like to have your peace bothered. 64 00:04:01,980 --> 00:04:05,060 And so I took, there was a, there was, there were dishes that 65 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:09,100 had stacked up in the sink and it had spilled out onto the counter. 66 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:13,300 So I took all those dishes and while he was at class, I placed each 67 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:15,260 one of them in his bed. 68 00:04:18,060 --> 00:04:22,380 Now some of you are going, ross, how is that a Jesus like thing 69 00:04:22,380 --> 00:04:22,860 to do? 70 00:04:23,260 --> 00:04:25,100 I didn't say it was okay. 71 00:04:25,100 --> 00:04:26,300 I was 20 years old. 72 00:04:28,190 --> 00:04:30,510 But we laughed about it later on. 73 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:32,990 I don't think, I think he won actually. 74 00:04:33,150 --> 00:04:34,950 I don't think he ever took out the trash. 75 00:04:34,950 --> 00:04:36,510 I don't think he ever did the dishes. 76 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:38,750 So checkmate. 77 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:39,550 He got me. 78 00:04:44,110 --> 00:04:53,090 But I want to share with you today how Jesus is not just when 79 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:53,610 he came. 80 00:04:53,610 --> 00:04:57,850 His goal was not just to create a mass of believers. 81 00:04:59,450 --> 00:05:00,810 That was not his goal. 82 00:05:02,890 --> 00:05:06,410 Yes, belief is a part of it, so hang with me. 83 00:05:08,490 --> 00:05:12,170 But his main goal was to create a movement of apprentices 84 00:05:13,450 --> 00:05:23,940 who learn his way of life, who fully take in his way of life, who 85 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:28,580 learn his life saving, soul restoring way of life. 86 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:35,540 And they practice it now for this life and for the life to come. 87 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:40,460 I want to talk with you about that today. 88 00:05:40,460 --> 00:05:40,820 How. 89 00:05:42,580 --> 00:05:43,980 And I'm going to show you through. 90 00:05:43,980 --> 00:05:45,460 I'm not just making this up. 91 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,960 It's in all of the gospels how Jesus. 92 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,760 I will show you how Jesus made it very clear what he came to do. 93 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:56,800 And the reason I bring that up is because I don't know if you're 94 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,720 like me, but in the Christianities that I grew up with, 95 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,360 I was a bit of a church theological mutt. 96 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:13,850 Spent some time in a Methodist church, went to Baptist Bible studies, 97 00:06:14,810 --> 00:06:19,610 then later on, oh, Church of Christ Church Camp Presbyterian for 98 00:06:19,610 --> 00:06:20,330 a little while. 99 00:06:21,050 --> 00:06:23,970 And there was this kind of idea that Jesus goal was to make 100 00:06:23,970 --> 00:06:25,130 you and me believers. 101 00:06:27,130 --> 00:06:31,450 That his goal was that you would believe something so he would 102 00:06:31,450 --> 00:06:37,090 give you this deliverance for when you die, for after you die. 103 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:38,850 And some of you are going, ross, you're always talking about 104 00:06:38,850 --> 00:06:39,050 this. 105 00:06:39,050 --> 00:06:40,730 Well, we got to keep talking about it. 106 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:47,610 That his goal was to make you believe something, invite you, call 107 00:06:47,610 --> 00:06:48,570 you to believe something. 108 00:06:48,730 --> 00:06:54,730 So after we're done here, you have salvation. 109 00:06:56,970 --> 00:07:02,890 And while belief is a huge part of it and the afterlife. 110 00:07:03,370 --> 00:07:04,650 Hey, there's good news. 111 00:07:04,730 --> 00:07:07,770 There is more to our existence than what's happening right here, 112 00:07:07,770 --> 00:07:08,250 right now. 113 00:07:09,350 --> 00:07:09,830 Amen. 114 00:07:10,390 --> 00:07:15,030 That's good news if all that we got is this earth. 115 00:07:17,990 --> 00:07:19,990 But it's not quite like we've heard. 116 00:07:20,150 --> 00:07:25,190 And I want to show you that today because we've been in a series 117 00:07:25,270 --> 00:07:31,350 called, based on this book, the Ruthless Elimination of Hurry 118 00:07:31,350 --> 00:07:33,030 by John Mark Comer. 119 00:07:33,510 --> 00:07:35,470 We've been talking about eliminating hurry. 120 00:07:35,470 --> 00:07:37,910 We've been talking about how we have a hurry sickness. 121 00:07:39,540 --> 00:07:42,460 Not just that we're fitting too much into too little of a space 122 00:07:42,460 --> 00:07:43,220 with our lives. 123 00:07:43,940 --> 00:07:45,060 It's more than that. 124 00:07:45,780 --> 00:07:50,740 It's that distraction is becoming the norm of our existence. 125 00:07:51,140 --> 00:07:53,780 And distraction itself is a form of hurry. 126 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:59,700 We're distracting and escaping to run away from our pain, to not 127 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:03,140 deal with our trauma, to not deal with our ailments. 128 00:08:04,510 --> 00:08:07,590 Even when we try to pursue change in our lives, we're doing 129 00:08:07,590 --> 00:08:08,750 it in a hurried way. 130 00:08:10,430 --> 00:08:13,390 Our first week of this, we had a couple of therapists chime in about 131 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:17,070 that, how sometimes their clients, like they're three meetings 132 00:08:17,070 --> 00:08:19,470 in, and it's like, why aren't I better yet? 133 00:08:21,710 --> 00:08:25,230 When we want change, we want the fast track, we want the gimmick, 134 00:08:28,030 --> 00:08:29,230 but all change. 135 00:08:29,390 --> 00:08:34,120 Science points to all of my experience of change with people, 136 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,680 says that the most lasting change is of the slow and steady 137 00:08:37,680 --> 00:08:38,800 and persistent kind. 138 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:41,480 We have a hurry sickness. 139 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:43,000 We've been talking about the solution. 140 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,720 Last week we talked about how acceptance is the beginning of the 141 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,160 solution. 142 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,440 Accepting that we have a problem, we have hurry sickness, 143 00:08:49,680 --> 00:08:51,920 and our willpower ain't gonna be enough to fix it. 144 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:53,840 Isn't that exciting? 145 00:08:57,770 --> 00:09:00,330 But actually that's the beginning, is that we need a power 146 00:09:00,330 --> 00:09:01,210 greater than ourselves. 147 00:09:01,210 --> 00:09:03,370 So the solution is a spiritual one. 148 00:09:04,570 --> 00:09:07,610 We need this Jesus to restore us from the inside out. 149 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:09,970 But the solution is also a practical one. 150 00:09:09,970 --> 00:09:12,410 We talked about accepting our limits last week. 151 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:16,650 How actually, despite what you've been told, you can't do everything 152 00:09:16,650 --> 00:09:17,930 you put your mind to. 153 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:23,730 I'll say it again, you can't and you shouldn't do everything you 154 00:09:23,730 --> 00:09:24,890 can put your mind to. 155 00:09:29,670 --> 00:09:31,230 Some of you are like, oh, I don't like that. 156 00:09:31,230 --> 00:09:32,550 That hurts my feelings. 157 00:09:35,670 --> 00:09:39,790 Actually, we Talked about how 99% of Jesus life was spent in like 158 00:09:39,790 --> 00:09:40,870 a 5 mile radius. 159 00:09:41,590 --> 00:09:44,550 90% of his life was not an active ministry. 160 00:09:44,790 --> 00:09:48,630 Almost all of his life was spent with a small group of people. 161 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Jesus was limited. 162 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,480 But if you're paying attention, I'm telling you today 163 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,680 that the solution to this problem, oh my gosh, I'm Going to 164 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:01,960 watch. 165 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,080 I'm going to see if some of you roll your eyes is to be a Christian. 166 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,920 Darn it, Ross, you're playing into the same thing. 167 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,040 The church always spiritualizes everything. 168 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:20,720 I'm hungry. 169 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,000 I'm going to pray for you. 170 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,320 I lost somebody. 171 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,840 Just trust God. 172 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,000 I'm not doing that to you today because what I'm saying is 173 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,880 that I'm not talking about that kind of Christianity where you 174 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:38,680 just believe something. 175 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:42,000 I'm talking about how Jesus gives us a way of life. 176 00:10:44,250 --> 00:10:49,130 Yes, it's spiritual, but it's also highly, highly practical. 177 00:10:52,330 --> 00:10:57,730 I believe if atheists looked at Jesus way of doing life and they 178 00:10:57,730 --> 00:11:00,650 just practiced it, they would go, wow, I feel more peace. 179 00:11:02,330 --> 00:11:04,410 I have more serenity, I have more love. 180 00:11:04,410 --> 00:11:05,610 No, wait, let me back up. 181 00:11:05,610 --> 00:11:09,450 I believe if Christians actually practice Jesus way of life, 182 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,400 we would have more love and peace. 183 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,600 Somehow we became Christians without following Jesus. 184 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,400 We became Christians and studied all the letters of Paul, 185 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,040 became experts in all the doctrines. 186 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,680 I want to show you his way of life. 187 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:40,830 How it's the cure if I didn't offend you too much. 188 00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:41,910 And you're still with me. 189 00:11:44,070 --> 00:11:51,030 So first I want to ask you when you think of Jesus way of life, 190 00:11:51,270 --> 00:11:58,190 like how he lives day to day, what do you think of what does he 191 00:11:58,190 --> 00:11:58,470 do? 192 00:11:59,990 --> 00:12:02,870 What does Jesus day to day life look like? 193 00:12:02,870 --> 00:12:05,110 What's his way of living look like? 194 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:05,870 Crystal. 195 00:12:10,750 --> 00:12:14,070 He is always going to a deserted place. 196 00:12:14,070 --> 00:12:15,310 The Greek word is our. 197 00:12:15,390 --> 00:12:17,230 We get our English word desert from it. 198 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:20,510 Desert doesn't mean hot sand, no water and you're going to die. 199 00:12:21,790 --> 00:12:23,710 It means that you're alone. 200 00:12:24,830 --> 00:12:26,830 He is always doing that. 201 00:12:26,830 --> 00:12:28,510 That's not a super spiritual thing. 202 00:12:28,510 --> 00:12:29,710 It is, but it isn't. 203 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,600 He has carved out space to be alone with God. 204 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:34,160 That's great. 205 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,600 What else? 206 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:37,880 When you think of Jesus way of life, what do you think of his rhythm 207 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,440 for living? 208 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,360 What's he do? 209 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:43,400 He teaches people. 210 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:44,760 Yeah. 211 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,720 Who does he teach the most? 212 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:51,480 Somebody if Kiersten. 213 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Who does Jesus spend the most time teaching? 214 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:55,480 What's that? 215 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Himself? 216 00:12:58,220 --> 00:12:58,540 Yep. 217 00:12:58,540 --> 00:13:01,540 He's spending alone time with God to receive things but also he's 218 00:13:01,540 --> 00:13:05,820 teaching a few people that he spends all of his time with Core 219 00:13:05,820 --> 00:13:06,780 relationships. 220 00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:11,900 Is Jesus trying to have like the most followers on Instagram? 221 00:13:13,980 --> 00:13:16,380 I genuinely think Jesus wouldn't have social media. 222 00:13:18,060 --> 00:13:18,780 Probably not. 223 00:13:21,660 --> 00:13:26,220 He was not famous, didn't try to be actually repelled it. 224 00:13:26,300 --> 00:13:26,820 What else? 225 00:13:26,820 --> 00:13:28,860 What of Jesus way of living do you think of? 226 00:13:28,860 --> 00:13:29,460 How did he live? 227 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:30,700 What did he do day to day? 228 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:32,940 What's that? 229 00:13:34,460 --> 00:13:34,980 I'm sorry? 230 00:13:34,980 --> 00:13:35,900 What'd you say Yuli. 231 00:13:36,300 --> 00:13:37,500 He runs his own business? 232 00:13:38,140 --> 00:13:41,820 Yes, he was a carpenter, an artisan. 233 00:13:42,460 --> 00:13:43,340 He worked. 234 00:13:46,140 --> 00:13:49,980 He worked for money at some point, but sometimes he didn't. 235 00:13:53,710 --> 00:13:54,190 Sometimes? 236 00:13:54,190 --> 00:13:54,590 Yeah. 237 00:13:54,910 --> 00:13:55,430 When he. 238 00:13:55,430 --> 00:13:58,110 When his movement got started, people just sold their stuff and 239 00:13:58,110 --> 00:13:59,150 gave it to the poor. 240 00:13:59,630 --> 00:14:00,830 Who wants to do that? 241 00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:18,680 Lucy, that's a very practical thing. 242 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,520 Jesus rarely gave people advice that they didn't ask for. 243 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,000 Alcoholics Anonymous says unsolicited advice is always received 244 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,920 as criticism. 245 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,520 How many of us are going around giving unsolicited advice? 246 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,840 Jesus listened. 247 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,600 He asked questions. 248 00:14:41,650 --> 00:14:42,970 He built trust with people. 249 00:14:42,970 --> 00:14:44,450 He met people where they are. 250 00:14:45,490 --> 00:14:50,530 Also, let me add this, that Jesus did not save everyone. 251 00:14:51,330 --> 00:14:53,410 Hold on, relax. 252 00:14:54,690 --> 00:14:55,330 He did. 253 00:14:57,490 --> 00:15:01,370 But what I mean is, when he was feeding 4,000, was everyone in 254 00:15:01,370 --> 00:15:02,850 the world being fed in that moment? 255 00:15:03,570 --> 00:15:05,970 Were there people going hungry in that very moment? 256 00:15:06,210 --> 00:15:06,690 Yes. 257 00:15:09,500 --> 00:15:12,500 While he was helping one sick person, was everybody else doing 258 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:12,860 great? 259 00:15:14,540 --> 00:15:14,940 No. 260 00:15:17,020 --> 00:15:19,460 Jesus himself lived by this thing we talk about. 261 00:15:19,460 --> 00:15:20,060 Not everyone. 262 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,220 Nobody can do something about everything. 263 00:15:22,380 --> 00:15:23,260 Nobody can. 264 00:15:23,740 --> 00:15:24,940 Not even Jesus did. 265 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:28,460 Except in his death and resurrection. 266 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:37,990 Charles, Love as I have loved you. 267 00:15:44,470 --> 00:16:02,960 Yep, yep, yep. 268 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,360 Charles, thinking about when Jesus said, love others as I have 269 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:06,880 loved you. 270 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,760 In that very moment, Jesus hadn't died yet. 271 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,840 So in that moment, maybe it does us well to think of, well, how 272 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,520 did Jesus do that up to that moment? 273 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:17,200 How did he live? 274 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:17,800 What did he. 275 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,040 How did he spend his time? 276 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,200 How did he do relationships, things like that? 277 00:16:23,850 --> 00:16:24,690 All right, hey, let me show you. 278 00:16:24,690 --> 00:16:26,330 Let me show you how I'm not just making this up. 279 00:16:26,410 --> 00:16:32,450 This concept of Jesus goal again, this is spiritual, folks. 280 00:16:32,450 --> 00:16:32,970 It is. 281 00:16:34,170 --> 00:16:37,090 I'm going to tell you, like, the solution to our problem is spiritual, 282 00:16:37,090 --> 00:16:38,650 but it's also highly practical. 283 00:16:38,970 --> 00:16:42,250 And Jesus wants us to learn with him, like apprentices. 284 00:16:42,330 --> 00:16:43,330 I've said this before. 285 00:16:43,330 --> 00:16:47,090 If I want to go, I always pick on you, Josh, but you actually work 286 00:16:47,090 --> 00:16:48,890 with wood, and it's kind of like Jesus. 287 00:16:48,890 --> 00:16:51,130 So Josh is like Jesus in many ways. 288 00:16:51,130 --> 00:16:52,410 In other ways, I'm sure he's not. 289 00:16:52,410 --> 00:16:59,670 Okay, listen, if I wanted to know how to build some cabinets, 290 00:17:02,070 --> 00:17:02,950 would I do. 291 00:17:03,670 --> 00:17:04,710 No, I shouldn't go. 292 00:17:04,710 --> 00:17:07,030 Just watch a YouTube video and jump in. 293 00:17:07,670 --> 00:17:09,030 Yes, you can do that. 294 00:17:09,110 --> 00:17:15,830 It'd be way better to spend time with somebody who builds cabinets, 295 00:17:17,030 --> 00:17:22,400 watch them, practice with them, fail with them. 296 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,480 That would be the best way to do it. 297 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,000 I could do it on YouTube and do it by myself. 298 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,080 But when I try to do this YouTube video, I would have no mentor 299 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,000 saying, oh, no, no, no, no, not that way. 300 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,680 Or to just watch it. 301 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,040 Go watch. 302 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,520 He's gonna do it that way and fail. 303 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,680 I'm gonna let him fail, and then we're gonna talk about it. 304 00:17:45,370 --> 00:17:47,770 This is what Jesus is inviting us to watch. 305 00:17:48,090 --> 00:17:48,810 I'll show you. 306 00:17:50,010 --> 00:17:50,570 Right here. 307 00:17:52,170 --> 00:17:52,930 Beginning to end. 308 00:17:52,930 --> 00:17:59,490 In the Gospels, he says, in Matthew 4, 19, come and read the 309 00:17:59,490 --> 00:18:00,650 next two words for me. 310 00:18:03,770 --> 00:18:07,290 Does he say, come and believe in me now? 311 00:18:07,290 --> 00:18:08,170 It's a part of it. 312 00:18:08,170 --> 00:18:08,730 Hold on. 313 00:18:08,890 --> 00:18:11,580 Don't go nuts and I'll show you. 314 00:18:12,220 --> 00:18:13,580 I'm going to show you something. 315 00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:17,380 And then back here. 316 00:18:17,380 --> 00:18:19,020 We're going to make our way back to this one. 317 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:19,980 So just hang tight. 318 00:18:21,260 --> 00:18:23,100 We're going to make our way back to this one. 319 00:18:25,740 --> 00:18:28,380 Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give 320 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:28,780 you rest. 321 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:30,380 Take my yoke upon you. 322 00:18:30,460 --> 00:18:33,100 And you read the next three words and. 323 00:18:34,620 --> 00:18:35,260 Okay. 324 00:18:36,790 --> 00:18:38,070 Does he say, and believe in me? 325 00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:39,950 No. 326 00:18:39,950 --> 00:18:41,350 Learn something from me. 327 00:18:41,910 --> 00:18:43,070 The word that we. 328 00:18:43,070 --> 00:18:44,990 That is the Greek word for learn. 329 00:18:44,990 --> 00:18:47,750 There is the same root word of disciple. 330 00:18:50,710 --> 00:18:52,070 It's like apprentice. 331 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:56,630 The better word for it might be apprentice, like, come and be 332 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:57,590 my apprentice. 333 00:18:58,150 --> 00:18:58,790 Take my. 334 00:18:59,030 --> 00:19:00,030 I'm jumping the gun. 335 00:19:00,030 --> 00:19:00,870 We'll come back to this. 336 00:19:00,870 --> 00:19:01,430 Just wait. 337 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:03,760 And then we got this one. 338 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,080 This is the end of the Gospel, Matthew. 339 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,000 Therefore, go and make believers of all nations. 340 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:13,160 Right? 341 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Nope. 342 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,000 Go and make what? 343 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,480 Baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. 344 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,120 Absolutely. 345 00:19:24,120 --> 00:19:24,920 You gotta believe. 346 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:25,840 Absolutely. 347 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,000 You gotta be born again and immersed in a completely new reality 348 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,800 and way of life. 349 00:19:30,610 --> 00:19:31,570 Yes, you do. 350 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:32,530 But watch. 351 00:19:32,530 --> 00:19:33,570 What else you got to do. 352 00:19:33,970 --> 00:19:39,410 Oh, teach. 353 00:19:40,210 --> 00:19:41,490 Go do like I do. 354 00:19:43,170 --> 00:19:44,530 Learn my way of life. 355 00:19:47,970 --> 00:19:54,170 This is something like, we're learning a way of life with Jesus. 356 00:19:54,170 --> 00:19:58,380 We're not just, like, believing in something. 357 00:19:58,620 --> 00:20:00,700 So let me back up and tell you. 358 00:20:00,700 --> 00:20:02,940 Yes, I want to tell you that there is. 359 00:20:02,940 --> 00:20:03,980 Hey, look, it is a. 360 00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:04,540 Is a. 361 00:20:05,180 --> 00:20:06,420 This is a spiritual thing. 362 00:20:06,420 --> 00:20:07,340 We keep saying this. 363 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:08,940 The solution is spiritual and practical. 364 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:09,900 Are you still with me? 365 00:20:12,140 --> 00:20:15,660 The starting place for every person who wants to follow Jesus 366 00:20:15,660 --> 00:20:21,660 is we have to receive from him this spiritual liberation that he 367 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:22,300 gives us. 368 00:20:26,770 --> 00:20:29,330 We on Jesus side of the ledger, we are freed. 369 00:20:29,330 --> 00:20:30,410 It doesn't mean we're freed. 370 00:20:30,410 --> 00:20:31,490 We have to accept it. 371 00:20:31,650 --> 00:20:32,610 Here's what I mean. 372 00:20:35,170 --> 00:20:37,650 Do you know there's this thing in Indiana called my case? 373 00:20:37,730 --> 00:20:38,610 You ever heard of it? 374 00:20:41,170 --> 00:20:44,690 If you want to know, like, right now, if you want to know my 375 00:20:44,690 --> 00:20:48,850 dad's speeding tickets, go to my case in Indiana. 376 00:20:49,530 --> 00:20:51,130 Search Ronald Stackhouse. 377 00:20:51,210 --> 00:20:53,690 You'll see every traffic violation he's ever had. 378 00:20:54,570 --> 00:20:56,970 For the love of God, people don't do that right now. 379 00:21:01,370 --> 00:21:04,410 If you want to see people's rap sheet. 380 00:21:05,049 --> 00:21:06,570 It's on there in Indiana. 381 00:21:07,530 --> 00:21:10,970 Every misdemeanor, every felony, everything. 382 00:21:12,890 --> 00:21:20,500 But in Jesus's economy, if you put in Ronald Jean Stackhouse into 383 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:29,820 his database, or Jeremy, or Beth, Josh, Adam, everybody in here, 384 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:31,420 it's really frustrating. 385 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:34,700 There's just one entry, that one. 386 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:37,740 That's it. 387 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:45,950 Even the person you're like, I can't wait to see their rap sheet. 388 00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:47,030 I'm going to expose them. 389 00:21:48,150 --> 00:21:49,030 I'm going to share this. 390 00:21:49,030 --> 00:21:51,150 I'm going to screenshot this, put it on the socials. 391 00:21:51,150 --> 00:21:53,910 Everybody's going to know every person. 392 00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:54,950 You look them up. 393 00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:55,590 Boom. 394 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:58,630 He has released us. 395 00:22:00,790 --> 00:22:04,870 He came to deal with the forces of darkness, of sin and death 396 00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:07,910 and darkness so that we would be freed once and for all. 397 00:22:08,770 --> 00:22:11,570 When he went to the cross, he went to fight a battle we could never 398 00:22:11,570 --> 00:22:12,450 fight on our own. 399 00:22:15,170 --> 00:22:17,530 Some traditions believe that he went down. 400 00:22:17,530 --> 00:22:22,690 He literally went down to hell to fight for us. 401 00:22:23,570 --> 00:22:26,850 So the things that are destroying us, we are now freed from. 402 00:22:27,570 --> 00:22:31,250 However, we have to take the keys from his hand. 403 00:22:32,370 --> 00:22:34,050 We're sitting in a jail cell. 404 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:39,740 My spiritual director will do this to me sometimes when I'm rehearsing 405 00:22:39,740 --> 00:22:41,820 some story about how somebody hurt me. 406 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:44,900 He'll say, it sounds like you're choosing on that one to still 407 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:45,860 sit in the jail cell. 408 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:46,300 On it. 409 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:48,860 I'm like, excuse me? 410 00:22:48,860 --> 00:22:49,180 What? 411 00:22:49,740 --> 00:22:50,699 How dare you? 412 00:22:51,740 --> 00:22:52,940 He says it right here. 413 00:22:55,340 --> 00:23:02,630 He says, look, I have the keys. 414 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:05,590 They're in my hands. 415 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:07,830 I give them to you. 416 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:10,230 Be freed. 417 00:23:13,670 --> 00:23:16,630 When I said, like, first, this is a spiritual problem we got. 418 00:23:16,630 --> 00:23:18,470 Every problem we face is a spiritual one. 419 00:23:18,470 --> 00:23:19,830 So it needs a spiritual solution. 420 00:23:20,790 --> 00:23:21,510 He's it. 421 00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:23,990 Believe in him. 422 00:23:23,990 --> 00:23:24,750 Trust in him. 423 00:23:24,750 --> 00:23:25,110 Yes. 424 00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:26,310 Belief is a part of it. 425 00:23:26,990 --> 00:23:28,830 We need a spiritual regeneration. 426 00:23:29,310 --> 00:23:30,670 We need some remodeling. 427 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:33,630 No, we need demolition and then some rebuilding. 428 00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:37,950 And. 429 00:23:38,990 --> 00:23:45,470 Yes, and we have to learn his way of life. 430 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:48,430 No, we have the chance to learn his way of life. 431 00:23:51,550 --> 00:23:52,670 Okay, that was spiritual. 432 00:23:52,670 --> 00:23:53,310 You with me? 433 00:23:54,580 --> 00:23:56,100 But here's practical stuff. 434 00:23:57,860 --> 00:24:01,260 Yes, we need to be believers, but we also want to be disciples, 435 00:24:01,260 --> 00:24:06,020 apprentices who learn his life saving trade, his soul restoring 436 00:24:06,020 --> 00:24:06,420 trade. 437 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,180 I want to read this because I think that maybe. 438 00:24:10,660 --> 00:24:12,260 Maybe you might be in this boat. 439 00:24:20,990 --> 00:24:23,990 It's often quoted that the definition of insanity is doing the 440 00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:26,670 same thing over and again and expecting different results. 441 00:24:28,030 --> 00:24:29,310 I mean, we all know that. 442 00:24:30,510 --> 00:24:30,990 Boring. 443 00:24:33,630 --> 00:24:35,309 But that's exactly what we do. 444 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:41,750 We get a vision of the kind of life that is possible in Jesus. 445 00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:44,430 We go to church or read a book or listen to a podcast. 446 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,120 We catch a glimpse of the kind of life. 447 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,920 We ache for one of emotional health and spiritual life. 448 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,920 Our gut immediately says, yes, God, I want that life. 449 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,160 We head home from church with all the willpower we can muster and 450 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,880 set out to change. 451 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:06,040 But then we go right back to living the exact same lifestyle and 452 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,080 nothing changes. 453 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,480 It's the same cycle on repeat. 454 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,140 Stress, tiredness, distraction. 455 00:25:14,140 --> 00:25:15,420 We feel stuck yet again. 456 00:25:15,420 --> 00:25:18,140 And then we wonder, what am I missing? 457 00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:20,860 Anyone? 458 00:25:21,820 --> 00:25:22,540 Are you there? 459 00:25:31,580 --> 00:25:33,180 So spoiler alert. 460 00:25:33,580 --> 00:25:36,060 If you go home today, you're like, all right, I'm ready. 461 00:25:36,860 --> 00:25:37,500 I'm ready. 462 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:38,460 I got it from church. 463 00:25:38,460 --> 00:25:40,380 I'm ready to go live this thing now. 464 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:41,520 No. 465 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,240 That's why we keep meeting together. 466 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,720 That's why we keep walking together. 467 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:58,480 And we walk slow and steady and persistent and we believe. 468 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,800 And then we struggle with unbelief. 469 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:01,960 And then we fall. 470 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000 And then someone in church picks you back up. 471 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,330 And then we keep practicing a way of life. 472 00:26:07,730 --> 00:26:09,890 Not just a way of believing, but a way of life. 473 00:26:10,530 --> 00:26:14,770 We watch Jesus together over and over and over and again because 474 00:26:14,770 --> 00:26:17,410 the things that we give attention to are the people we become. 475 00:26:18,850 --> 00:26:22,210 And we start championing each other's like hopes and dreams. 476 00:26:22,530 --> 00:26:27,210 And we learn to spend our time as Jesus spends his time. 477 00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:29,730 This is the practical stuff I'm going to outline for you. 478 00:26:31,170 --> 00:26:35,410 Are we spending time regarding time the way Jesus regards time? 479 00:26:39,270 --> 00:26:40,550 Maybe we know what Jesus taught. 480 00:26:40,550 --> 00:26:41,430 We know what he did. 481 00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:43,030 How did he regard time? 482 00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:45,910 How did he spend time? 483 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:48,630 To what did he give time? 484 00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:51,510 How did Jesus schedule his days? 485 00:26:55,030 --> 00:26:58,910 One thing Crystal mentioned didn't matter what was going on. 486 00:26:58,910 --> 00:27:00,110 Jesus was like, hey, I'll see you later. 487 00:27:00,110 --> 00:27:01,830 I need to go over here and be alone for a while. 488 00:27:05,510 --> 00:27:07,990 One thing Jesus did was practice Sabbath. 489 00:27:08,150 --> 00:27:09,830 You're going to talk about that again, Ross? 490 00:27:09,990 --> 00:27:10,630 Yep. 491 00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:16,950 Eugene Peterson, he wrote the message translation paraphrase. 492 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:20,310 Emily referenced it today in her version of Matthew 11, 28:30. 493 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:23,910 Eugene Peterson, he and his wife every Sabbath day would go on 494 00:27:23,910 --> 00:27:28,320 a like 2 to 4 hour hike to be away. 495 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,280 He said, it's the most radical thing I ever did. 496 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,880 How many of you are thinking right now, there's no way that I'm 497 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,360 going to practice a 24 hour period of time. 498 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:49,760 There's no way, Ross, where my goal is rest with a few people, where 499 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,840 I'm just, I'm present and paying attention to those people 500 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,680 and to God. 501 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,560 I keep being surprised by it. 502 00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:01,640 We, my family went on a hike in Fort Harrison park yesterday. 503 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,000 I carried the little nugget on the back. 504 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,800 It's my nickname for no, just present. 505 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:27,570 When Jesus says hey, he says this right here, all you who are 506 00:28:27,650 --> 00:28:32,930 loaded down heavy, take my way upon you. 507 00:28:32,930 --> 00:28:36,890 A yoke was a way of talking about a rabbi set of teachings and 508 00:28:36,890 --> 00:28:37,490 practices. 509 00:28:40,850 --> 00:28:43,610 I was like, oh, yeah, this is what it's about while I was in the 510 00:28:43,610 --> 00:28:44,050 woods. 511 00:28:45,020 --> 00:28:46,500 This is part of Jesus yoke. 512 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,500 He blesses this. 513 00:28:48,060 --> 00:28:50,860 Did you know that Jesus has not asked you to fix the world? 514 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:57,820 Did you know that Jesus hasn't asked you to save everybody? 515 00:28:59,020 --> 00:29:04,740 He did so. 516 00:29:04,740 --> 00:29:07,180 We learn to spend our time as he spends his time. 517 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:12,380 We learn to see our gifts as Jesus sees our gifts. 518 00:29:14,530 --> 00:29:17,410 We learn to steward life as Jesus stewards life. 519 00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:22,050 We learn to delight in people the way Jesus delights in people. 520 00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:27,410 We learn to delight in our enemies. 521 00:29:27,490 --> 00:29:27,890 What? 522 00:29:31,650 --> 00:29:33,890 We learn to delight in our enemies. 523 00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:37,090 Do we have to like what they do? 524 00:29:37,650 --> 00:29:37,970 No. 525 00:29:37,970 --> 00:29:39,690 Do we rejoice in their injustice? 526 00:29:39,690 --> 00:29:40,050 No. 527 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,760 Do we learn to try to love them in whatever way Jesus is asking 528 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:48,240 us to? 529 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,720 We learn to welcome the stranger as he welcomes the stranger. 530 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:01,040 I'm going to a protest tomorrow to protest these immigration 531 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:01,760 centers. 532 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,600 I'm going up to one in Kokomo to protest tomorrow with some other 533 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,400 clergy people. 534 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,960 I'm not doing it for political reasons. 535 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:17,840 I'll just tell you my hand. 536 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,040 We're going to talk politics in church for about 15 seconds. 537 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,680 Politics suck. 538 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,720 Most of our leaders are ego driven. 539 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:31,760 Almost all of them. 540 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,960 I'm not going there for some political agenda. 541 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,260 I'm going there because simply Jesus told me to, to welcome the 542 00:30:37,260 --> 00:30:37,860 stranger. 543 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,420 My citizenship is not primarily in America. 544 00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:42,820 It's in the kingdom of the heavens. 545 00:30:43,380 --> 00:30:46,020 So that's a way of life that I'm going to adopt. 546 00:30:47,540 --> 00:30:49,780 It's at 2 o' clock in Kokomo if you want to come. 547 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:50,940 Ross, I have a job. 548 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:51,620 That's fine. 549 00:30:57,220 --> 00:31:03,800 The way that we're rounding up people, like animals, abhorrent. 550 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,680 It is an abomination from the pits of hell. 551 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,000 And because I belong to Jesus and I am his apprentice, I'm going 552 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:14,680 tomorrow. 553 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,760 So if we're going to. 554 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:23,640 Hey. 555 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,680 I need to believe in Jesus again every day. 556 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,120 I need his spirit to enter my spirit. 557 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,280 I need his help to not be so darn afraid all the time in my life. 558 00:31:33,190 --> 00:31:36,150 But then I also got to just do things that he asked me to do before 559 00:31:36,150 --> 00:31:37,030 they make sense. 560 00:31:37,670 --> 00:31:38,710 Just like if I were. 561 00:31:38,870 --> 00:31:39,590 Sorry, Josh. 562 00:31:39,670 --> 00:31:42,030 If Josh said, ross, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 563 00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:43,110 Don't put that leg there. 564 00:31:43,110 --> 00:31:43,910 But that screw. 565 00:31:43,910 --> 00:31:45,510 No, we got to do this method first. 566 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:46,750 It would make no sense to me. 567 00:31:46,750 --> 00:31:48,830 But I'm gonna listen to him because he's Built a thousand tables. 568 00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:50,150 I've built like, zip. 569 00:31:51,670 --> 00:31:55,230 Jesus is saying, I need to teach you an eternal kind of way 570 00:31:55,230 --> 00:31:55,550 of life. 571 00:31:55,550 --> 00:31:56,790 I need to teach you that. 572 00:31:57,190 --> 00:32:00,000 So you're gonna need to do some things that I'm asking you to 573 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,320 do before it makes sense. 574 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,160 Welcome the stranger. 575 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,400 But, Ross. 576 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. 577 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,120 Just watch how quick our butts come up. 578 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,680 I once had a good friend preach on how big our butts are. 579 00:32:25,330 --> 00:32:28,210 Watch how many times when Jesus asked to do something, our 580 00:32:28,210 --> 00:32:29,890 big butts come into the picture. 581 00:32:35,410 --> 00:32:36,730 All these things, guys. 582 00:32:36,730 --> 00:32:38,250 It's not just about believing. 583 00:32:38,250 --> 00:32:40,250 He didn't come to just make us believers. 584 00:32:40,250 --> 00:32:41,810 He came to make us apprentices. 585 00:32:43,090 --> 00:32:51,620 And oddly, if we practice his way of life, we'll be shocked if 586 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:55,380 we reduce our life to giving the most of our time to a core relationship. 587 00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:56,540 Core relationships. 588 00:32:57,580 --> 00:32:58,460 It'll be weird. 589 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,540 I don't feel so stressed. 590 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,860 If we believe that we are loved like Jesus did and we trust 591 00:33:05,860 --> 00:33:09,260 in our identity in God, and we're not people pleasers, God help 592 00:33:09,260 --> 00:33:09,580 me. 593 00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:14,460 We practice something called self differentiation. 594 00:33:14,460 --> 00:33:14,900 Look it up. 595 00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:18,890 It's worth learning about some of us out of our trauma, we're either 596 00:33:18,890 --> 00:33:20,130 emotionally fused with people. 597 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:21,050 We're like, are you okay? 598 00:33:21,050 --> 00:33:22,250 If you're okay, I'm okay. 599 00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:24,570 If you need help, I'm going to get my worth out of helping you. 600 00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:25,930 But other of us run the other way. 601 00:33:25,930 --> 00:33:30,370 We're emotionally cut off from people we're in. 602 00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:34,530 I'm not going to ask for a poll in the room. 603 00:33:34,530 --> 00:33:35,330 Which one you are. 604 00:33:39,890 --> 00:33:41,010 It all starts here. 605 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:46,540 He has given us the keys. 606 00:33:50,460 --> 00:33:51,580 Romans 8 says it. 607 00:33:51,580 --> 00:33:54,380 Nothing can separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus. 608 00:33:54,780 --> 00:33:56,060 That's the beginning place. 609 00:33:58,060 --> 00:34:04,300 The rest of it is learning a way of life with this master artisan 610 00:34:04,860 --> 00:34:09,190 who builds like eternity in us. 611 00:34:12,150 --> 00:34:16,710 Okay, so the solution is to become a Christian. 612 00:34:20,390 --> 00:34:21,750 What do you think about all that? 613 00:34:21,750 --> 00:34:22,230 Do you agree? 614 00:34:22,230 --> 00:34:22,750 You disagree? 615 00:34:22,750 --> 00:34:23,830 What's this making you think? 616 00:34:27,350 --> 00:34:29,550 Let the record show that it's 10:27. 617 00:34:29,550 --> 00:34:31,910 Okay, Lucy, go ahead. 618 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:32,880 Help. 619 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,450 Yes, that's everything. 620 00:35:04,170 --> 00:35:07,970 Lucy was just saying, like, when we become apprentices, we. 621 00:35:07,970 --> 00:35:12,170 It just so happens that we also bring about the kingdom of heaven 622 00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:12,810 on earth. 623 00:35:12,970 --> 00:35:13,770 Exactly. 624 00:35:14,890 --> 00:35:17,370 And then we help other people to become apprentices. 625 00:35:19,130 --> 00:35:19,770 Why would. 626 00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:21,930 No, I won't say it. 627 00:35:21,930 --> 00:35:22,610 I want to keep. 628 00:35:22,610 --> 00:35:23,370 Keep it time. 629 00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:27,780 Yes, Evan. 630 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:42,140 Yes, Evan was at a conference once. 631 00:35:42,140 --> 00:35:42,820 There was a slide. 632 00:35:42,820 --> 00:35:47,660 Like, people have been so obsessed with proving that Christianity 633 00:35:47,660 --> 00:35:51,600 is true without demonstrating how Christianity is good. 634 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:57,760 The way you do that is to practice Jesus's life restoring way, 635 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,280 soul restoring. 636 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:08,040 I didn't even Know how wearied my soul was and still is until this 637 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,720 extended stillness and silence I've been practicing day in and day 638 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:12,000 out. 639 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,520 We're so wrecked. 640 00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:16,970 What else? 641 00:36:16,970 --> 00:36:18,370 What's astern in you, Lucy? 642 00:36:18,370 --> 00:36:19,210 For round two? 643 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:45,220 Yeah. 644 00:36:50,340 --> 00:36:50,980 Jesus. 645 00:36:50,980 --> 00:36:52,180 John Ortberg has. 646 00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:53,500 There's a title of one of his books. 647 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:55,780 I think it's called Eternity is In Session Now. 648 00:36:56,580 --> 00:37:00,060 I think, like I said, this is a Ross. 649 00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:00,620 But it is. 650 00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:02,020 Is it about what's going on here? 651 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:02,380 Is it? 652 00:37:02,380 --> 00:37:04,660 Or about what happens beyond here? 653 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:05,140 Yes. 654 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:08,270 Yes. 655 00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:12,430 And when we practice apprenticeship, we're starting to 656 00:37:12,430 --> 00:37:12,830 get that. 657 00:37:14,670 --> 00:37:15,230 Who else? 658 00:37:15,230 --> 00:37:15,630 What else? 659 00:37:15,630 --> 00:37:17,870 What you got, Joanna? 660 00:37:23,390 --> 00:37:26,670 And this is why I'm always reluctant to say these things, because 661 00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:29,710 I am biased, but I also. 662 00:37:30,670 --> 00:37:33,320 I can also be biased in the way that I. I actually grew up in 663 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,880 knowing his heart and knowing it now. 664 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,960 And so like Jesus was this great teacher. 665 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920 I mean, to me, this conversation was just so good, the 666 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,680 way that you studied that and put it to us. 667 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,920 I'm just thankful to have you as a good teacher and a trustworthy 668 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:49,440 teacher. 669 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,520 Well, I love you too. 670 00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:01,550 The whole point of Ross, we didn't come to church. 671 00:38:01,550 --> 00:38:02,750 You could read from a book. 672 00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:03,390 This is important. 673 00:38:04,670 --> 00:38:05,470 This is important. 674 00:38:07,790 --> 00:38:11,190 The whole point of apprenticeship is to model all of 675 00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:12,990 your life after Jesus. 676 00:38:14,830 --> 00:38:16,070 All of your life. 677 00:38:16,070 --> 00:38:19,630 Your time, relationships, money, everything. 678 00:38:21,470 --> 00:38:27,110 And in doing so, to recover your soul, to have the warp part 679 00:38:27,110 --> 00:38:28,550 of you back into shape. 680 00:38:28,550 --> 00:38:32,350 To experience healing in the deepest parts of your being. 681 00:38:32,590 --> 00:38:36,070 To experience what Jesus called life to the full from John 682 00:38:36,070 --> 00:38:36,350 10. 683 00:38:36,350 --> 00:38:37,710 We looked at it early in the series. 684 00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:38,830 Listen to this. 685 00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:42,590 What the New Testament writers call salvation. 686 00:38:42,590 --> 00:38:47,310 Keep in mind the Greek word that we translate, salvation is soteria, 687 00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:50,510 the same word we translate, healing. 688 00:38:53,450 --> 00:38:55,890 When you're reading the New Testament, you read that somebody 689 00:38:55,890 --> 00:38:56,930 was healed by Jesus. 690 00:38:56,930 --> 00:38:59,290 Then you read somebody else was saved by Jesus. 691 00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:01,850 You're reading the same Greek word. 692 00:39:01,850 --> 00:39:03,450 Salvation is healing. 693 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:08,050 Even the etymology of our English word salvation comes from 694 00:39:08,050 --> 00:39:13,770 the Latin salve, as in an ointment you put on a burn or a wound. 695 00:39:14,570 --> 00:39:16,330 This is what Jesus was all about. 696 00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:22,190 Healing people, saving them at a soul deep level. 697 00:39:22,590 --> 00:39:22,990 How? 698 00:39:23,550 --> 00:39:25,230 Through apprenticeship to him. 699 00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:27,630 Brad. 700 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:52,360 Yep, yep. 701 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,320 That's wonderful, Brad. 702 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,990 That's not a plant, Brad. 703 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:12,830 Just tied into our core value, one of our church. 704 00:40:13,150 --> 00:40:16,430 We want to meet people where they are and see them as God's masterpieces. 705 00:40:16,990 --> 00:40:20,550 When we're being apprentices to Jesus, we're literally becoming 706 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:22,270 a piece of the master. 707 00:40:23,790 --> 00:40:24,750 Darn, that's good. 708 00:40:28,670 --> 00:40:30,430 No, I just stole it, man. 709 00:40:31,870 --> 00:40:32,510 What else? 710 00:40:32,510 --> 00:40:33,470 What are you thinking? 711 00:40:33,550 --> 00:40:34,110 What's this? 712 00:40:34,110 --> 00:40:38,560 Making you feel one or two more. 713 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,040 Josh. 714 00:41:07,530 --> 00:41:07,850 Yeah. 715 00:41:09,450 --> 00:41:12,010 Josh is just thinking about someone they had in their life who 716 00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:16,330 ended up converting people to Christianity by their actions because 717 00:41:16,409 --> 00:41:20,530 they were embodying a way of life contrasted against somebody 718 00:41:20,530 --> 00:41:27,120 who's standing out at the racetrack with a sign, which honestly 719 00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,080 isn't even a good business practice. 720 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,240 It's not doing a good recruitment job anyways. 721 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,640 So it's not even working. 722 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,160 But that's the whole point. 723 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,120 People who are doing that aren't doing that for those people. 724 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,160 They're doing it for them. 725 00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,640 They're not doing it because they love the people to whom they're 726 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:44,320 showing the sign. 727 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:45,320 They're doing it for them. 728 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,840 They think it's a good heaven maintenance strategy. 729 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:52,200 What else? 730 00:41:52,200 --> 00:42:00,580 Maybe one or two more or none more. 731 00:42:00,660 --> 00:42:02,020 Oh, go ahead, Shelby. 732 00:42:20,350 --> 00:42:26,510 The message that here isn't necessarily God's actual. 733 00:42:33,070 --> 00:43:15,170 Yeah, yep. 734 00:43:27,010 --> 00:43:29,570 Yeah, yeah. 735 00:43:29,570 --> 00:43:34,970 That we definitely live in a. I don't think our. 736 00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:37,460 It would be easy to be prisoner of the moment and think 737 00:43:37,460 --> 00:43:39,180 there have been no other times like this. 738 00:43:40,060 --> 00:43:41,900 Like, go check out the Reformations. 739 00:43:45,820 --> 00:43:47,820 Some pretty rough disagreements back then. 740 00:43:47,820 --> 00:43:53,339 People going to battle with pitchforks and scythes because you 741 00:43:53,980 --> 00:43:56,700 didn't dunk someone in baptism, you sprinkled them. 742 00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:57,660 Weird. 743 00:43:57,740 --> 00:44:00,700 But to each their own anyways. 744 00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:02,380 But it is a. 745 00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:08,190 It is a hyper polarized time where there are many expressions 746 00:44:08,190 --> 00:44:13,190 of Christianity out there and many moments when people are saying 747 00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:16,030 they're doing something because of Christianity. 748 00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:18,830 That's why I didn't mean to do this. 749 00:44:18,830 --> 00:44:21,830 Today we have a core value that we want to fix our eyes on Jesus 750 00:44:21,830 --> 00:44:22,990 and live by his Spirit. 751 00:44:25,070 --> 00:44:27,470 We're just trying to ask, what did he say? 752 00:44:27,470 --> 00:44:28,590 What did he do? 753 00:44:28,590 --> 00:44:29,470 How did he live? 754 00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:32,510 And how do we seek the Spirit's help to do likewise? 755 00:44:33,110 --> 00:44:34,630 It's that simple and that hard. 756 00:44:37,350 --> 00:44:39,590 So that's what we're here for. 757 00:44:39,830 --> 00:44:44,870 All right, I think that's it. 758 00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:46,310 Let's pray. 759 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:07,520 Thank you for saving us, Lord. 760 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,880 Help us to receive the keys to freedom that you are so eager to 761 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,280 give us. 762 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,600 Because you delight in us. 763 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:23,200 Heal us so that we have a chance to delight in you again. 764 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,970 Our hearts are loaded down and heavy. 765 00:45:27,010 --> 00:45:27,970 We're beaten up. 766 00:45:30,290 --> 00:45:31,730 We can't see straight. 767 00:45:33,730 --> 00:45:35,570 Help us to delight in you again. 768 00:45:37,010 --> 00:45:38,930 Help us to see how you delight in us. 769 00:45:41,090 --> 00:45:45,650 Show us this eternal kind of life, this life and soul restoring 770 00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:50,220 life, way of life in Jesus name name. 771 00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:51,260 Amen. 772 00:45:52,860 --> 00:45:57,340 Thank you for participating in the conversation happening at Heaven 773 00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:58,380 Earth Church. 774 00:45:58,940 --> 00:46:04,300 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 775 00:46:05,260 --> 00:46:09,860 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 309 East Main in Whiteland, 776 00:46:09,860 --> 00:46:13,740 Indiana, or online at YouTube Live. 777 00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:15,260 That's at YouTube. 778 00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:26,130 The audio podcast is always available at Apple Podcast and on 779 00:46:26,290 --> 00:46:26,930 Spotify. 780 00:46:27,410 --> 00:46:31,730 You can help others find out about the Heaven Earth Church podcast 781 00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:36,850 by going to Apple Podcast and or Spotify and leaving a five star 782 00:46:36,850 --> 00:46:38,450 rating and your review. 783 00:46:39,250 --> 00:46:43,170 Instructions on how to do just that and links are in the show notes. 784 00:46:44,210 --> 00:46:49,730 You can always find out more by going to the church website, heavenearthchurch.org 785 00:46:50,850 --> 00:46:51,130 we. 786 00:46:51,130 --> 00:46:53,330 Want to thank you for spending time with us today. 787 00:46:53,490 --> 00:46:56,850 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church, 788 00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:00,570 and you may think out there that your story is over, but in fact, 789 00:47:00,570 --> 00:47:03,650 your faith story may just be beginning. 790 00:47:03,890 --> 00:47:06,730 If you want more information about our church or you're interested 791 00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:10,850 in the next step, you can go to heavenearthchurch.org Otherwise, 792 00:47:10,850 --> 00:47:14,010 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 793 00:47:14,010 --> 00:47:14,930 Church Podcast.