Do you ever feel like in order for your content to convert, that you need to be talking to everyone who might possibly buy from you?
Speaker ABut it seems like the moment that you try to talk to everyone, no one is actually getting it.
Speaker ANo one's resonating.
Speaker ANo one actually feels like you're talking to them.
Speaker AThat is because when you are not speaking to one specific person, the people who are actually ready to pay your prices, to purchase your offer, they end up scrolling right past because they don't actually see themselves in your message.
Speaker ANow, I have heard a lot of pushback, a lot of resistance, a lot of objections about getting super specific when it comes to your content.
Speaker AThis is something that I have always, I think, instinctually done.
Speaker AThey're instinctively instinctually, I'm pretty sure is not a word.
Speaker ABut this is pretty commonplace across marketing.
Speaker AYou know, you'll hear like, a client avatar, and you want to, you know, build out your avatar and know, like, all their things, which I do really think is beneficial.
Speaker ABut I also think there's a deeper level to it, because when you are getting so specific and when you are telling very specific stories to one specific person or to, you know, two specific people, if you want to build out, to quote, unquote, avatars, I just say my dream client.
Speaker ABut when you are getting so specific and talking to them, you're going to be telling stories that other people can insert themselves into.
Speaker ASo I rarely get the feedback directly from people, but I was actually at an event in September, and I had the opportunity to sit beside a storytelling expert.
Speaker AHow often do you get to sit beside a storytelling expert and tell stories to her and her give you feedback?
Speaker AIt was incredible.
Speaker AIt was total.
Speaker AIt was honestly worth the $75,000 that I paid to be in the room.
Speaker AAnd I wasn't even there to learn about stories.
Speaker AI was there to learn about sales.
Speaker ABut it was worth it to be in the room, to sit beside her for three days and have the opportunity to tell her some stories that I was using in my content and my landing page and my podcast and get feedback from her.
Speaker AAnd she really gave me some confidence.
Speaker AI'll be super honest, because she was like, you are such a captivating storyteller.
Speaker AAnd before you go off and you're like, okay, this episode isn't for me.
Speaker AI'm not good at telling stories, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker AI want to gift you the confidence to know that you are really good at telling stories.
Speaker AYou might just need to learn how to get a little bit more specific.
Speaker ANow, I will say my Imagination has always been wild and crazy.
Speaker AEver since I was little, I could picture the craziest things and I could turn them into words.
Speaker AI've always been excellent at writing, but the reason for that is because I talk in detail.
Speaker ANow, that's not always great if you are my poor husband, because he has to hear every single detail of every single part of my day when he gets home.
Speaker ABut it's really helped me with the podcast with my organic short form content.
Speaker AWhen I am working on writing the book and I am, like, getting so detailed and so specific, and this is a skill that you can actually practice as well.
Speaker ASo one of the specific stories that I was telling to this storytelling expert, we had to do a little sales role play where I was helping her dream big and envision a big life.
Speaker AAnd I told a story about.
Speaker ASo the what I was trying to sell on the other side of this was content creation is wildly important for your business in your life.
Speaker AAnd so I was talking about.
Speaker AI was talking to a real estate agent, and she was getting in the car.
Speaker AShe could hear her kids laughing in the background, and they had their boogie boards strapped to the top of the car, and her and her husband were holding hands.
Speaker AThey were backing out of the driveway, sipping on their lavender lattes, which was their road trip drink of choice.
Speaker AAnd in that moment, she was so proud of the investment that she had made in, you know, allowing someone to come in and help her with content creation.
Speaker ABecause of that, her business was really out of the feast or famine season that she used to be in in her business, where vacation felt so heavy.
Speaker AAnd now, because she had invested in a content strategist, she had invested in someone who could come in and really help her build her brand voice and see the what was possible with her content, she was able to finally enjoy a vacation with her family and be super present.
Speaker AAnd honestly, that's what you want, isn't it?
Speaker AAnd so I'm telling her this story, you know, I'm doing the whole verbatim because there's like little ninja skills all in that story.
Speaker AAnd when I finished, she was like, wow, that was incredible.
Speaker AShe said, because I was able to put myself in that scenario, even though the details wouldn't have resonated with me.
Speaker AAnd I was like, oh, I'm so interested in what you mean when you say that.
Speaker ALike, tell me more.
Speaker AShe was like, well, first off, we would never go to the beach.
Speaker AWe would go to the mountains.
Speaker ASo we would have skis on top of our car instead of boogie boards.
Speaker AShe said, and me and my husband would never drink a lavender latte, she said, but we would go get, like, a chamomile tea.
Speaker AShe said, but as you were telling that story, because you were so specific when you said road trip drink, I immediately pictured, like, the chamomile tea in our hands, and we're headed to the mountains, and we've got the skis on top and it's chilly, and we're all laughing, and maybe we're listening to, like, some Christmas music.
Speaker AShe said, in that moment, I could picture myself in there, and that was when it kind of clicked for me.
Speaker ALike, yes, I've been.
Speaker AI've been telling stories for a long, long time.
Speaker ALike I said, imagination girl over here.
Speaker ABut I realized in that moment that super specific stories, they allow your content to become more universal.
Speaker AIt's so crazy.
Speaker ALike, the more specific that you are, it doesn't actually alienate.
Speaker AIt invites people in, and it allows them to see themselves in your story.
Speaker AIt creates a little bit of intimacy.
Speaker AIt makes your content a little bit more personable.
Speaker AIt gives it a real voice instead of, you know, in that scenario, I could have easily said, yeah, we backed out of the driveway and we headed on down the road.
Speaker AIt's like, no.
Speaker ALike, get really nitty gritty with the details.
Speaker AAnd for me, I almost feel like sometimes I give too much detail.
Speaker ABut when I'm telling a story and I see people nodding, I love telling stories in person because I can actually see it play out in real life.
Speaker ABut the more detail that you add, the more you will see people, like, put their phone down.
Speaker AAll of a sudden they will, like, perk up a little bit, and they'll really start resonating, even if it's something that they could never see themselves in.
Speaker ASo I was giving a presentation to a leadership group not long ago, and it was going to be a lot of men.
Speaker AAnd so I was trying to pull all these sports analogies in there.
Speaker AAnd I get in the room.
Speaker ASo I didn't know any of the people that were going to be in there.
Speaker AAnd these men were not sports people.
Speaker AWe'll just put it like that.
Speaker AI'm like, oh, my goodness.
Speaker AAll my analogies, like, don't even make any sense.
Speaker ABut because I was so specific, I pulled specific basketball players.
Speaker AI talked about their specific team colors and specific moments of specific, like, specific games.
Speaker AI just, like, got so granular.
Speaker AEven though they weren't into sports, they were like.
Speaker AI could see them kind of perk up.
Speaker AThey were putting their phones down they were, like, pulling their notebooks out and taking notes, and I was like, oh, this is hitting for them.
Speaker AAnd it wasn't necessarily that they love sports.
Speaker AI think they probably love sports just about as much as I do, which is negative 20.
Speaker ABut they could see themselves in the story.
Speaker AThey could insert themselves into, okay, maybe it's not sports.
Speaker AMaybe it's, like, video games or maybe it's, you know, chess or, I don't know, whatever their, like, ideal situation would have been.
Speaker ABut because I was so specific, there was a depth and a resonance that was created.
Speaker AAnd I also want you to think about speaking so clearly to one person.
Speaker ASo from the beginning of this podcast, I have spoken to one person throughout the whole time.
Speaker ANow, her needs and wants have changed a little bit.
Speaker AShe has evolved over the last year, but I have spoken specifically to her for all 120 episodes every single time.
Speaker AAnd it, in my opinion, has really resonated.
Speaker ABecause let me tell you this.
Speaker AI am not a professional podcaster.
Speaker AI probably had no, no right to really start a podcast in the first place.
Speaker ABut I have always been so intentional about speaking specifically to one person.
Speaker AAnd I had someone who tunes into the podcast often.
Speaker AShe said this to me, and she didn't even realize it was such a huge compliment.
Speaker AShe said, I feel like every time I listen to your podcast that.
Speaker AShe said, always listen in the car, and I'm always, like, kind of dropping the kids off or maybe picking the kids up.
Speaker AIt's usually in between, like, a sports practice or, you know, I'm kind of, like, still drinking my, you know, coffee first thing in the morning.
Speaker AI just dropped the kids off.
Speaker AI'm kind of still half asleep.
Speaker AI gotta go back home, and I gotta change and kind of clean the house and get, you know, get our.
Speaker AGet our life started.
Speaker AShe said, I feel like you are right there with me.
Speaker AShe said, I feel like you're in your pajamas, too.
Speaker AHair's tied up in a bun, and we're just having a conversation.
Speaker AI was like, I love that you say that, because that is seriously my mission with this podcast.
Speaker AIt's for this to be something that, yeah, if you want to take notes, go right ahead.
Speaker ABut I really want it to be just a podcast.
Speaker AYou can kind of have playing in the background.
Speaker AThose are my favorite podcasts.
Speaker AI love a podcast that gives me so much information that I have to, like, pause it and find a piece of paper and write something down.
Speaker ABut I also love my podcasts that just kind of let me tune in and tune out and Tune back in.
Speaker AAnd so that is my hope that this podcast always does that.
Speaker ABut I do always want to give a little tangible takeaway before I leave you for the day.
Speaker ASo if you've been listening to this episode and you're like, okay, I don't think I'm doing this.
Speaker AI don't think I'm getting specific enough.
Speaker AI don't think I'm telling the right stories.
Speaker AHow am I supposed to know who I'm talking to, what they want to hear?
Speaker AHow does that work?
Speaker AChatGPT is your friend.
Speaker AI'm telling you, the prompts that you put in are going to give you the output.
Speaker ASo I hear a lot of people like, oh, chatgpt doesn't work for me.
Speaker AAI is so fake.
Speaker AAnd blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker AIt is a user problem.
Speaker ABecause if you put really good prompts into ChatGPT, I promise it's going to help you.
Speaker AOkay, so I want you to go and chatgpt, and I want you to describe your business, and if your business isn't where you want it to be yet, describe your dream business.
Speaker ALike, if you.
Speaker AIf everything was perfect and, like, finances were not an issue, time's not an issue with what would your dream business be?
Speaker AAnd then ask it to build out, like, a full client avatar.
Speaker AAsk it to say, help me build up my dream client for you.
Speaker AAnd then when you go to create a piece of content, it's going to be awkward at first because you're like, well, I'm literally supposed to just talk to this one person.
Speaker AYes, I promise you.
Speaker AYour favorite content creators, your favorite podcasters, your favorite, like, substack or email newsletter, they are doing this.
Speaker AThey are speaking to one person.
Speaker AAnd if you do that in your content, it is going.
Speaker AYour content is going to light up.
Speaker ALike I said, I am speaking specifically to one person.
Speaker AEven right now, I'm thinking about her.
Speaker AI'm thinking about her job.
Speaker AI'm thinking about when she's listening to this podcast and what she needs to hear from me.
Speaker AAnd that's exactly what I say.
Speaker AAnd there's going to be people that listen to this podcast that are like, this doesn't resonate with me at all.
Speaker AGood.
Speaker AThe point is that I want to repel the people who my content doesn't work for, and I want to attract the people that it does because I want everyone that listens to love this podcast.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIf they don't love it, there's a million other podcasts out there.
Speaker AI love you.
Speaker AOn the way out of the door, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThat is all I've got for you.
Speaker AToday was a short and sweet episode, but this has been on my mind and on my heart because I hear so many people that are nervous to get super specific.
Speaker AAnd so I wanted to provide that little nugget for you, per usual.
Speaker AIf you got some value out of this episode, please leave me a big fat five star review.
Speaker AIf you only halfway liked it, you can leave me a four or three.
Speaker ABut I would love a five, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd send this to a friend.
Speaker AI appreciate it more than you know.
Speaker AOkay, I will see you in the next episode.