The Olympic Games, as we know them today, have their
Scott:origins in ancient Greece.
Scott:The inaugural games are traditionally dated to 776 BC, although some
Scott:historians believe they may have started even earlier.
Scott:These games were held in Olympia, a sanctuary site for the Greek gods
Scott:located in the western Peloponnese peninsula, a region of southern Greece.
Scott:Olympia was not just the birthplace of the Games, but also the central
Scott:hub where athletes and spectators from all over the Greek world would gather.
Scott:The early Olympic Games were a far cry from the international
Scott:spectacle we witness today.
Scott:The first recorded event was the Stadion Race, a simple foot race covering
Scott:a distance of roughly 192 meters.
Scott:The Stadion was named after the building in which it took place.
Scott:This word later became Stadium in Latin, which became the English word of Stadium.
Scott:Over time, the games expanded to include a variety of events such
Scott:as wrestling, boxing, long jump, javelin throw, and discus throw.
Scott:One of the most grueling and celebrated events was the pentathlon, which combined
Scott:five different disciplines, running, jumping, discus, javelin, and wrestling.
Scott:The athletes competed in the nude, a practice that was said to celebrate
Scott:the human body and its capabilities.
Scott:Victors of these games were celebrated as heroes, often receiving lavish
Scott:gifts, free meals, and front row seats at the theater for life.
Scott:However, the glory days of the Ancient Olympic Games were not to last.
Scott:Political turmoil on the rise of the Roman Empire began to
Scott:cast a shadow over the Games.
Scott:The final blow came in 393 AD when the Roman Emperor Theodosius I, a
Scott:Christian who saw the Games, died.
Scott:As a pagan festival issued a decree banning all pagan
Scott:festivals, including the Olympics.
Scott:This marked the end of the ancient games, and they would remain dormant
Scott:for over a millennium until their revival in the late 19th century.
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Scott:And so because right now we are in the middle of the Olympics and we're in
Scott:full Olympic fever here in the The Walk With History Productions Household.
Scott:We're going to talk about the history of the Olympics Jen, you were in Paris just
Scott:before all the game stuff kicked off.
Scott:And so I think, we thought we would talk about the Olympics, talk about Olympic
Scott:history, some interesting things that.
Scott:You might not know, and a lot of stuff I'm interested in hearing because you
Scott:had prepped ahead of time so tell us a little bit about some Olympic history
Scott:that the average person, or maybe the large, larger public won't know.
Jenn:So like you said, I was in Paris about a month before the Olympics
Jenn:started because I was in Normandy.
Jenn:And flying in and out of Normandy is difficult.
Jenn:So Paris is really the easiest place to get in and out.
Jenn:It's about an hour and a half away from Normandy.
Jenn:So I spent the last kind of four days in Paris before I left and Paris
Jenn:was getting ready for the Olympics.
Jenn:If you saw the opening ceremony, they basically used the city as the opening
Jenn:ceremony, which I think was smart because Paris is known for its landmarks.
Jenn:And so they really played up the landmarks of the city, including the Eiffel Tower
Jenn:and the Louvre and the Seine River.
Jenn:So it was just very, need to see all of that since I was just there.
Jenn:And so let's start with the Olympic rings.
Jenn:So they put these five Olympic rings on the Eiffel Tower and
Jenn:people are always like, five Olympic rings, there's seven continents.
Jenn:I don't understand why are there five?
Jenn:And the rings are supposed to represent five continents because they
Jenn:combine America into one continent.
Jenn:North and South America become one ring.
Jenn:And then you got Europe, you got Asia, you got Africa, and then Australia.
Jenn:And they call it like the ocean continent, Australia, because
Jenn:Antarctica is not a country.
Jenn:They're not sovereign, they don't have a flag,
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:There's, there's nobody marching in, holding, holding
Scott:their flag for Antarctica.
Jenn:and nobody has ever competed from Antarctica.
Jenn:So because of that, it's not.
Jenn:on the Olympic rings.
Jenn:So the people have a disconnect.
Jenn:The seven continents is five rings.
Jenn:Why is this?
Jenn:This doesn't compute.
Jenn:And you're right, it doesn't compute.
Jenn:But that's the reason why.
Jenn:So they had the five rings on the Eiffel Tower when I was there,
Jenn:which was really cool to see.
Jenn:And that's just a symbol most Olympians I notice if they compete,
Jenn:sometimes get a tattooed on
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:You see it on the swimmers and the gymnasts and the track and field athletes.
Jenn:it's just a very distinct symbol of the five Olympic rings.
Jenn:And it's basically supposed to illustrate this.
Jenn:Coming together of the world to compete against each other and it's supposed
Jenn:to be, unity and it like you had said in your intro, the legend, I don't
Jenn:know if this is actually true, goes that the Greeks would suspend fighting.
Jenn:for the Olympics.
Jenn:So the Greeks are always fighting amongst themselves for different territorial
Jenn:areas, but they would suspend fighting for the Olympics and every Greek
Jenn:speaker from every different area could come and compete in these Olympics.
Jenn:And so this symbol of peace.
Scott:that kind of some of the other kind of the, the Greek symbology
Scott:around the Olympics is, tends to be with like the olive branch, right?
Scott:So that, those kinds of peace symbols.
Jenn:symbols.
Jenn:Even today, a little bragging rights of your area for winning and things along
Scott:And even in the Greek times, the people who would win
Scott:these events were Seen as heroes.
Scott:Now, what a lot of our listeners may not know about you and I is one of the
Scott:reasons that, that you and I enjoy the Olympics so much is because we both
Scott:participated in sports that are front and center in the Olympics every single
Jenn:in the summer
Scott:in the summer Olympics.
Jenn:you and I are both we have athletic backgrounds, you were a gymnast,
Jenn:you were collegiate level gymnast.
Jenn:And I was a swimmer never to the collegiate level.
Jenn:But I swam for most of my a young life.
Jenn:And so we like to watch the level of that athleticism in those sports,
Jenn:and we can just appreciate what it takes to reach those levels.
Scott:and for me, even growing up where, where I lived, we didn't get
Scott:free network television and my parents couldn't really afford it to have cable
Scott:year round, but they would turn the cable on every four years, just so we
Scott:could watch and record the Olympics for, for young, for young Scott.
Scott:And so I would get to watch that, that was that 90s era,
Scott:when I was in, in my, my youthful gymnastics days, we would do that.
Scott:And I have very clear memories of the 1996 Olympics and the 2000 Olympics.
Scott:And so that was, it's always for you and I, it was part of what we
Scott:thought about when we were young.
Jenn:Yeah, we, I think the Olympics for any child is like their first
Jenn:taste of different culture and country, depending on where the Olympics is at.
Jenn:And you get to that's what I appreciate about opening ceremonies,
Jenn:because opening ceremonies really.
Jenn:encompass the story of your country.
Jenn:And that's what I appreciate about Paris is everybody came down the
Jenn:Seine River, which I had just done on Walk with History, and they had
Jenn:done that for the opening ceremony.
Jenn:And that's that river is such a big part of Paris's history, so much
Jenn:so they couldn't even get it clean.
Scott:Yeah.
Scott:So it was interesting that you mentioned the kind of opening
Scott:ceremonies in the Seine River because at the front and center of modern
Scott:day Olympic Games is the torch carry.
Scott:Now you were saying that the the carrying of the Olympic
Scott:torch hasn't always been around.
Jenn:No, it was first used in the 1928 Summer Olympics in Amsterdam, and the
Jenn:main purpose was, it was to indicate where the Olympic games were being held
Jenn:around Amsterdam, so you could know where the Olympic events were happening,
Jenn:if you could follow the big torches.
Jenn:in Amsterdam.
Jenn:And people just love that idea so much.
Jenn:The idea of fire and this ancient Greek ceremony of sacred fire, because
Jenn:during the Olympic games in Greece, the altar, of the ancient Greece
Jenn:mythology was kept lit during the games.
Jenn:And you know how fire was stolen from the gods by Prometheus.
Jenn:And this presented like a Greek story.
Jenn:And so Amsterdam had done it first and people thought,
Jenn:Oh, that's such a great idea.
Jenn:It really holds true to this Greek mythology.
Jenn:Let's keep this as part of a symbol of the Olympic Games.
Jenn:So thank you, Amsterdam for bringing that in.
Jenn:1928.
Scott:didn't realize that it hadn't been around since the beginning.
Scott:So it's, it's interesting to see how the Olympics kind of evolve.
Jenn:Now, the, the torch relay, which we do now, they, they run this flame,
Jenn:this eternal flame to light the torch that started in 1936 in Berlin, but it
Jenn:was and the first torch lighting ceremony was held in Olympia, Greece in 1936.
Jenn:So it's been, it's a neat thing that we do now, but it does encompass this idea.
Jenn:I think it's unique what each country does this year, Paris,
Jenn:it put it on a hot air balloon
Scott:Yeah, that was neat.
Jenn:and put it and got it to raise up into the air and you can see it again.
Jenn:Landmarks are such a big part of Paris, that garden that they're using, it was
Jenn:built by Napoleon for Josephine, it's very much a part of the French culture there.
Jenn:So I really just enjoyed how much France pulled in their
Jenn:story to the opening ceremonies.
Scott:Now, one of the other things that, at least this is the way it's here,
Scott:here in the United States, everybody's always counting how many medals.
Scott:What's the medal count for this country?
Scott:Who's got the most golds?
Scott:Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Scott:Who, what country got their very first gold in this event,
Scott:that, that event, and the other.
Scott:But Olympic medals, , gold, silver, and bronze haven't always been around as well.
Jenn:In the very beginning with the Greeks, you got all the branches,
Jenn:like you said, but when the, Olympics were reinvigorated in 1896.
Jenn:It started with only the first place winner got a silver medal and you
Jenn:won first, you got the silver medal.
Jenn:Sometimes second place winners would get a bronze.
Jenn:Sometimes it depended on what event.
Jenn:Gold medals and all three medals.
Jenn:Again, America sets the stage here.
Jenn:They weren't introduced until 1904 at December Olympics in St.
Jenn:Louis, Missouri.
Jenn:And that's when the IOC had decided to do a gold medal for first, a silver
Jenn:medal for second, and a bronze medal for third, and then they went back
Jenn:and retroactively assigned those.
Jenn:to the 1900 games and the 1896
Scott:Oh, okay.
Jenn:So when you see, if you go back to those first two games where they didn't
Jenn:do that, they basically took the people's places and gave them those medals.
Jenn:So those countries, if you say this country has so many golds, they're,
Jenn:they're adding those from 1896 and 1900, even though they weren't
Jenn:officially handed out until 1904.
Jenn:But I want everyone to know that the first eight people in any sport
Jenn:will get a scroll with your name on
Scott:even today.
Jenn:even today.
Jenn:So if you're in top eight, the first three get medals, the top
Jenn:eight get a scroll with your name on
Scott:Oh, that's
Jenn:And then every person who competes in that event gets a participation medal.
Jenn:So you're a Olympian.
Scott:you go.
Scott:I mean, I think just the fact that you get to go and be there, that
Scott:you can call yourself, an Olympic athlete should be a reward enough,
Jenn:At first the, pictures on the medals showed the Colosseum.
Jenn:And so they were the medals were redone because the Colosseum is Roman and it
Jenn:doesn't fit into the Greek culture.
Jenn:So they re they redid the pictures.
Jenn:And then for the winter Olympics, they always depict something kind of winter.
Jenn:Now, I have a question for you.
Jenn:When did the winter Olympics start?
Scott:I believe it started in 1924 in Chamonix, France.
Jenn:and then when did they start to offset them?
Scott:So when they started doing like the even
Jenn:Mm-Hmm.
Scott:that I don't, I'm going to guess it's actually pretty modern.
Scott:I want to say like 2008 timeframe.
Jenn:2006.
Jenn:Two six.
Scott:Okay.
Scott:Because I remember in my youth, they were, they were the same year.
Scott:And I remember when they either skipped a year or, or shortened it to
Scott:only two years in between the Winter Olympics or something like that.
Scott:And then it was every two years, you're getting some sort of Olympic something.
Jenn:I like that better because once every four years was a lot, summer games
Jenn:and winter games because it's a lot.
Jenn:It's two, it's two, three weeks per games.
Jenn:Now each one has four years in between this four years between
Jenn:every summer Olympics and this four years between every winter Olympics.
Jenn:But there are two years in between and they offset them.
Jenn:So that way.
Jenn:This kind of a break for us viewers who like to watch from our couch
Jenn:and criticize these athletes who've prepared their whole lives for this.
Jenn:Being in Paris, watching them prepare for this and watching them
Jenn:make the Olympic village and put up the stands and knowing that.
Jenn:All these athletes from all over the world are going to descend onto Paris.
Jenn:And like you said, the tie in to the original Olympics games with the Parisian
Jenn:that really orchestrated all of it.
Jenn:It was really great to see that before it actually started.
Jenn:And I hope everyone's enjoying the Olympics right now.
Jenn:I really think the Olympics for me, As a historian is a time when the world can
Jenn:come together and we really get to see the best of our best athletically compete
Jenn:for something that's just so wholesome and something we can all be proud of.
Scott:Absolutely.
Scott:We love the Olympics here.
Scott:And I'm sure if you're listening to this, it's because you've been watching the
Scott:Olympics on TV and maybe you're listening to some Olympic history on your way into
Scott:work on a Monday or a Tuesday morning.
Scott:So hang out with us for a little bit longer.
Scott:And I'm going to tell you a little bit about how many significant ties
Scott:that France, the country itself has to the Olympics throughout the
Scott:Olympic history starting in 1896.
Scott:The revival of the Olympic Games in the 19th century is largely credited to a
Scott:Frenchman named Pierre de Coubertin.
Scott:Inspired by the ancient games and motivated by a desire to promote physical
Scott:education and international peace, Coubertin founded the International
Scott:Olympic Committee, IOC, in 1894.
Scott:His vision was to create a global sporting event that would bring together athletes
Scott:from around the world to compete in the spirit of friendship and fair play.
Scott:Two years later, in 1896, the first modern Olympic Games were held in Athens, Greece,
Scott:a fitting nod to their ancient origins.
Scott:The event featured 241 athletes from 14 countries competing in 43 events.
Scott:While modest by today's standards, the 1896 Games were a monumental
Scott:success and laid the foundation for the Olympic movement.
Scott:The early 20th century saw the Olympics grow in size and scope.
Scott:Interestingly enough, many jumps forward in the Olympic Games happened in France.
Scott:The 1900 Paris Games introduced female athletes for the first time and expanded
Scott:the number of sports and events.
Scott:Of a total of 997 athletes that year, Twenty two women competed
Scott:in five sportstennis, sailing, croquet, equestrianism, and golf.
Scott:By the 1924 Paris Games, the Olympics had become a truly international
Scott:affair, with 44 nations and over 3, 000 athletes participating.
Scott:The Olympic Games continued to evolve, introducing the first
Scott:Winter Olympics in 1924 in Chamonix, France, to celebrate winter sports.
Scott:Despite interruptions due to World War II, the games resumed and continued to
Scott:grow in popularity and participation.
Scott:One of the most significant developments in modern Olympic era was the introduction
Scott:of the Paralympic Games in 1960 in Rome.
Scott:These games provided a platform for athletes with disabilities
Scott:to compete at the highest level.
Scott:embodying the Olympic spirit of inclusion and diversity.
Scott:The Olympic Games have also been a stage for political and social statements.
Scott:From the Black Power salute by Tommy Smith and John Carlos in 1968 to the
Scott:boycott of the 1980 Moscow Games, the Olympics have often reflected
Scott:the broader socio political climate.
Scott:Today, the Olympic Games are one of the largest and most watched
Scott:Sporting events in the world.
Scott:The games have expanded to include a wide array of sports from traditional
Scott:events like athletics, which is what they call track and field during
Scott:the Olympic games and gymnastics.
Scott:To newer additions like skateboarding and surfing.
Scott:The IOC continues to adapt and innovate, ensuring that the Olympics
Scott:remain relevant and exciting for new generations of athletes and fans.
Scott:As we look forward to future games, the Olympic spirit of excellence,
Scott:friendship, and respect continues to inspire millions around the globe.
Scott:Their Olympics are more than just a sporting event, they are a celebration
Scott:of human potential and a beacon of hope for a more united world.