Welcome to We Are Technologies
User Friendly.
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2.0 with host.
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Bill Sikkens, technology architect.
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And this is User Friendly 2.0.
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As always I'm your host Bill Sikkens
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And why do you me as always,
my co-host Bill and Gretchen,
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welcome to the last show of 2025.
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Happy holidays.
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If you believe it's already
the end of the year.
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I mean, our eighth season
starts in two weeks.
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It just is amazing to me.
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And it's because of all of our wonderful
listeners out there.
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I mean, it's just incredible
that we've been able
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to get this far on this journey
with everybody and,
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I love it, I love it.
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Next week,
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we're going to be doing a repeat,
over Christmas and you'll and all of that.
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And then the first show of 2026,
we're going to be looking at technology
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backward and forward.
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And then our next,
which will be our next new one, I guess.
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So, you know, there you are.
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So we're only really taking one week
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downtime, but,
hey, I think I think we've earned it
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probably.
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So this week we're going to be hitting
on a couple of different things.
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We're going to be talking about
Gretchen's book, which is now available.
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You can buy it on one blog.
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We'll be talking about that
in a few minutes here. And,
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hey, you know what? You've earned
that, too.
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So, it's been quite, quite the journey.
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And like I say, what? Read into that
just after the news.
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And then the second segment of the show
to end the year
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on a very positive note, we're going to be
talking about some new scams.
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And the reason
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why this is important to do right now is
there are some things that are popping up
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that are really getting people,
and it's kind of nasty what's going on.
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So, you know, positive note or not,
the positive note is
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maybe if you hear about this,
this won't happen to you.
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So we're going to be going into that
some detail in the second segment. So
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that never stops.
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But on that track let's
go ahead and jump into the news.
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What do we have this week.
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All right.
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Arcade one up to be acquired by basic one.
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All right.
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So for anybody
that's not familiar with all of this
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let me kind of go over what
all of that even is.
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And then we will talk about
what's going on.
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So arcade one up is a company
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that has been around for a while
that builds three quarter size
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arcade cabinets.
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So like the games when you went into
the arcade, Pac-Man and so on.
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They make a lot of licensed
reproductions of these things
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that are a touch smaller
than the original.
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They're meant for home use,
so no closing doors
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and the cabinets are not built
at the same quality
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that you would need for an arcade,
but they work fine for home.
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I have one of them Golden ax game here
that has that and some other things on it.
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So, you know,
it is for the market that it's meant for.
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They're actually pretty good.
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And there's different schools
of thoughts on all of this,
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but they've been doing
some interesting stuff.
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And there's been rumors,
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floating around last week
that they are shutting down operations.
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And we want to do some research on it,
because there was no official statement
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made until very recently. This week. And
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what's happening
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is the company is not being acquired.
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Exactly.
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But a lot of their assets are by a company
called Basic Fun.
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So question comes to mind.
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What is basic fun? Well,
I had to look into that a little bit too.
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But they actually have a lot of brands
and it looks like they've put together
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an acquired that you will have heard of.
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If you haven't
heard the name of the company and
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I'll give you a few of these here bears.
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Oh, Tonka trucks.
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Oh, yeah.
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White bright.
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Lincoln Logs,
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Okay.
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And the list goes on, including arcade,
classic and old games.
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So it does seem like kind of a fit.
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So the question that comes out about this,
and it's actually one in a broader sense
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that is worth considering is a lot of
the arcade one up cabinets are online.
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So the golden that's
what I have is a self-contained unit.
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You plug it in, you turn it
on, you play it kind of thing.
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Okay, so that's fine.
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It's one of the older ones,
but I know another one.
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I have, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
actually has an app, and you go online and
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and do all the stuff through it
and some of their other devices,
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like the Infinity Game table
that they make, which is kind of cool,
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requires
being online to work and all of that.
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So one of the biggest concerns with this,
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in addition to it, would be to be able
to see all this stuff go away
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is if they shut down
and shut down their servers,
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a lot of this equipment
will will stop working, at least in part.
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you know, it's something to consider
because really, anything
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that's online and having it as an app
potentially could have that happen.
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And it does all the time.
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So what's being said here is basic
fun is going to be keeping
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to some extent the functionality
of these things, hopefully fully.
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But that has not been clarified yet.
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The different places
that I've been reading about,
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I tried to reach out to them to ask
and wasn't able to get
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any direct information on it,
but they are saying to some extent.
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So hopefully these things
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And as far as what's going
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to actually happen with the product line,
the arcade cabinets
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and all the rest of the stuff
that is currently made by arcade.
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One up
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is also something that we'll have to see
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because they haven't
been too direct on it,
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but they are acquiring the assets,
not the company, but some of the assets.
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So it stand to reason that they're going
to still keep
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making some of these products
or some version thereof.
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NASA has a
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space telescope that is 42ft long.
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Yeah,
it's called the Roman Space Telescope
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or the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope.
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And that, name
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has been changed to me, obviously,
the name for this person from the wild or.
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Excuse me, wide field infrared
study telescope.
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I can see it's the last show of our year.
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I can talk really?
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This telescope
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is designed to explore everything
from our outer solar system
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to the edge of the observable universe,
including planets throughout our galaxy.
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And our energy
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comes in at over 42ft long, 12.7m,
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about the length of a semi-truck trailer
with more than 14ft wide.
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When fully deployed,
the primary mirror is 2.4m or 7.5m
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diameter, which is about the same size
as Hubble space Telescopes.
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Primary mirror. So
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biggest difference between that
and Hubble?
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The resolution
this stuff is pretty similar.
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It has 100 times
larger view and it weighs 80% less.
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Oh yeah. Some technology, you know.
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Let's go.
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And so this is going to be interesting.
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There's a lot of different instruments
and stuff on this that we can dig into.
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That would take longer than doing
right now, but this might be a good topic.
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I know there's a lot of interest
in space stuff.
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The other thing I want to say here
is, you know, when you hear this airing,
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if you're hearing a smaller area,
it's the last week of December 2025.
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We record on Wednesdays and Saturdays.
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That day we are
the 19th is the day the aliens are going
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to come from three outlets.
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So if we're still on the air,
I want to welcome a new audience.
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This telescope would have been nice
if it had been available to see.
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But hey,
we're going to see them in person.
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And if not,
well, then. Oh, well, I'm here.
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Disney.
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Disney to invest
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1 billion in open AI in major deal
that boosts
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Sora in Hollywood.
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Yeah, so that's a mouthful. Is that.
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And on the press release
there, it's a picture of Darth Vader.
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So I'm thinking, okay, what?
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You know, what are we doing here?
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So I had to do a little bit of,
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investigation into,
first of all, the term Sora.
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It is a, product that I makes that,
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pushes out clips, video clips.
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So, users of the
AI video creation platform,
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according to the press release,
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will now be able to create
clips of 200 characters
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from Marvel, Pixar,
and Star Wars franchises.
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That's what Sora's for.
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Oh, so I don't know exactly what
we're going to see them doing with this,
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because when they try to do
AI with, Darth
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Vader's voice, that didn't go too well,
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I don't know if you remember the story
from that earlier in the year.
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They used it in a game or something,
and, players could get, drones,
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you know, or drones to say things
with his very iconic voice
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and naughty things, because, of course,
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that was the first thing
everybody tried to do, and it worked. So,
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okay, that's bad.
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So though I haven't seen some interesting,
I don't
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I've been seeing some interesting
things on YouTube and I'm wondering
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if that is related to that.
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A whole bunch of
what if stories were Star Wars.
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So I'm wondering, and it may very well be,
I think that if I were to put a
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kind of looking at retro tech a little bit
and describing this in early days,
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there was something called Napster.
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You probably remember
downloading illegal music.
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And, from that everybody was going
to, oh, we're going to stop it.
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We're going to stop all of this.
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Well, I don't know about you,
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but I have an MP3 player
and have for the last 20 years,
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and I think this is a similar direction
that what they're wanting to do
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is allow fans to create stuff
using Disney's intellectual property,
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but still have control over
what's being done.
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So it's like the if you can't beat them,
join them kind of philosophy here,
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which actually makes some sense
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because this would be something that done
right, would allow for audience
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interaction, fan interaction, again,
without feeling like they're being,
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smothered down.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And where some of the changes
as of recording right now,
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we don't know for sure, but,
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the CEO of Lucasfilm is supposed
to be changing at the end of this year.
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If that happens,
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maybe we're looking at some things
that will bring
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the fans back into Star Wars
and some of these other franchises,
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which in my opinion
would be a very good thing,
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because that's always what it was about
when George Lucas ran it.
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And it still should be what it's about.
It's the fans.
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It really is that make these things
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successful or not, and really give
the energy that Star Wars has
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a place that already has enough of these
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3D printing spider
bot can build a house in one day.
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I mean, Australia lost.
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Oh yeah, you can build. Go ahead and wait.
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Before we started recording,
you gave an explanation.
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I hear there's spiders in Australia.
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Like real ones.
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Yes. Terrifying things.
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So I don't know.
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I guess if you have them,
you know, build on them.
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This thing actually does
kind of look like a spider.
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It, is designed
as the headline says, the full size
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homes up to 22,150ft² in just 24 hours.
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Talk about production of houses.
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And it says it,
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operates with the speed and efficiency
of over 100 bricklayers with built
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without waste or fatigue,
which actually is kind of a big deal,
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because if you've ever seen a construction
site,
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there's a lot of waste that goes along.
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Almost as much material
that goes the end of the property
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seems to go into the dome.
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And, it would be nice to see something
that would make that
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a little more sustainable.
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Uses sustainable cement remix.
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Made from sand, crushed
brick and recycled glass,
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producing walls that are fireproof,
resistant and highly durable.
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It's six legged
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design, are you the spider allows it
to move and build across uneven terrain,
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ideal for construction or remoter disaster
hit areas where human labor is limited.
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And I could see something like there.
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I know here
we have a huge housing shortage.
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You know,
if we get more homes that were affordable
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and that kind of a thing,
it would make a huge difference
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for the quality of life
for a lot of people.
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So looking at these kind of technologies,
there actually is a very valid
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good thing for, as long as it works.
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The biggest concern
I have about stuff like this is that
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going in, it has to work.
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If this comes out
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and there's a whole bunch of problems
with the houses that are built
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or quality of construction
or anything like that,
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that could really throw this off
the rails.
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On the flip side, if it's successful,
we could see something
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that really could help in a lot of parts
of the world where we need shelters.
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And from what I see of the pictures
of what this builds, it's nothing bad.
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It's actually a really nice looking house.
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Cool California
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judge rules
that Tesla engaged in deceptive
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marketing around autopilot
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right now.
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Anybody
that's been off world in addition to.
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Please let me join you.
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Tesla's had some controversy.
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Let's just put it in their,
recent past here.
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One of them is is their autopilot.
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And this whole thing blew up
and got into court
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and has been dragging
through the legal system for a while.
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And what it is
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is that the autopilot or full Self-Driving
is not actually an autopilot.
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It's not actually full Self-Driving.
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And the state of California is saying,
well, there's a problem.
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If you say that it does this and it's not,
you know, AI deceptive
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advertising, right?
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Yeah.
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So this is finally come out.
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And basically
what has been recommended here
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is that the company should face a 30 day
suspension of each of its licenses
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to sell and manufacture cars in the state
or any of the California DMV.
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First of all, in my opinion,
it's like, ouch, you know?
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But, what's happening right now
is they've been given a 60 day window
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to fix this problem,
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and then they're going to go from there
if they aren't resolved in 60 days
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and they move ahead with the suspension.
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So it's basically been stayed
until they fix this problem
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with what's going on with Tesla right now.
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They may or may not do.
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I mean, it's entirely possible.
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They're just going to say, well,
you know, I'm tough that you've said that.
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So I don't know.
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It's hard to say, what direction
this is actually going to go.
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But in all reality,
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even though this doesn't sound like a lot,
I do think a 30 day suspension
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of being able to sell your product
in a state like California
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probably would be noticed on a bottom line
somewhere.
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Yeah. So you know, who knows what this is?
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It forces them to fix the, practices
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of marketing this for something
that it's not and it's not its job.
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If they actually get the suspension,
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which most other companies,
I would say they accept the 5050 shot,
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but it'll be interesting
to see where that goes.
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So I do think it's kind of nice to see
that the state is actually said, hey,
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what you're doing is wrong
and you need to fix it,
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and we're actually going to do something
if you don't,
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because that doesn't happen so many times
when there's these kind of problems,
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they get married or whatever,
you know, happens, happens or does.
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And so this is one
where it's actually going to be,
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you know,
interesting to see where this goes.
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That was a, I'm sorry, beneficial to the,
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the general public, you know,
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so it seems that the market
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has a really taken
too much interest in this.
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Is the Tesla stock price
close at a record on Tuesday,
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largely due to increased enthusiasm
on Wall Street surrounding
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the company's plan for its robotaxis
and driverless technology.
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I wonder if the driverless technology
is going to be really driverless.
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We'll see.
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Maybe another 30 day fine.
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If it's not tomorrow.
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The Oscars will move to YouTube
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in 2029,
leaving their longtime home of ABC.
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So we've talked about a lot of the changes
that have happened very recently.
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Really.
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It's been gearing up
cable cutting and cutting,
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all that stuff, been around for a while,
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but the last 2 or 3 years,
it seems like it's really changing.
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Covid kind of initiated this,
but with the technology
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where it is now and stuff,
it does seem like the old method
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of television, linear television,
that kind of stuff is certainly retro.
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I don't know if I want to say obsolete.
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There still is a place for it,
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but we are seeing a lot of different
things happen like this, like the NFL too.
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If you watch it online and the Oscars
moving, is or the Academy Awards
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in this matter of moving, sorry, Academy
Awards and the Oscars are different.
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The Academy Awards
moving in 2029 is a big deal,
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because it is something
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that is a huge change from the way
that they've always done in the past.
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Will you get an Oscar
at the Academy Award?
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I understand that, but it's okay.
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Oscar, that's a yeah, I don't know.
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I guess I'm thinking there a little bit,
but it is.
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Yeah, it's the Oscars. People refer to it.
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It's really the Academy Awards.
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I don't know, maybe it's
just things like this that I care, but,
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Oh, right.
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Speaking of Oscars and Academy Awards,
let's talk about your new book.
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Yeah, right.
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I think the award that should be
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given here is that you've had the patience
and the ability.
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It is actually published. It's done.
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It actually happened.
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You know, we've actually got two different
things we're talking about here.
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And one book, The Night School Journal,
which talked about both of these
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in the past.
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We're going to get into a little bit
more detail on them here in just a minute.
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But The Night School Journal is a book
in that you start writing, backing
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up, what, 2012, I think, 2012 or 2013,
something like that.
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Yeah.
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So a while ago and then you and a pause it
well it was all right.
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Oh there's different philosophies
on how to write a book.
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And there are some people
who just sit down and,
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oh, I'm just going to write this story,
you know, and they don't outline anything.
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And I'm normally
an outline kind of person.
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But when I started that story,
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I just sat down and started writing it.
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And so I kind of went along
and all of a sudden
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it's like,
I don't know where I want to go now.
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I don't, you know, and so I had to, like,
set it aside and work on something else.
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And it took me like ten years
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to finally circle back to it
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and get myself to give it a, an ending.
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So. Yeah. And it's. Yeah.
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And the thing of it is, is I,
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I had read the first part that you had
written back ten years ago, 15 years
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and whatever it is now, and liked it
and was hoping for an ending.
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And the one that you wrote,
I think it really well,
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you've kind of modified it from
its original, set up.
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So it's actually part of cyber hockey now.
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You know, there are connections there.
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It's not part of the actual series,
but it is definitely the connection.
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And basically the synopsis of the book
is a young man who is a modern day night,
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basically are training to be
and things that revolve around that way.
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Can you give us a little bit better of a
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maybe a synopsis than what I just
oh, he's not a it's not a night.
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Yeah, he's a kid.
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This is the coming of age story nights.
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This is this is where a kid, he's
just a regular kid.
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He's not, like,
super fancy, like Harry Potter,
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who's a wizard or or,
you know, an orphan or anything.
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He's just a regular kid who has divorced
parents
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and, he finds himself,
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going to a private school
that he picked kind of by accident.
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And it turns out
it's a school for knights.
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And he makes wonderful, connections there
with lots of really neat kids
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who kind of change his life.
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So it's a coming in age story. It's it's.
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Ladies and gentlemen.
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That is why you let the author
describe their book instead of green.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Yeah.
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You know, seriousness,
this has been a journey, and I've been,
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you know,
working on some of the logistical stuff.
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But, Gretchen,
you've been really doing the thing,
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and we've we've had some times,
you know, this year
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we've had a lot of amazing authors
on talking about some of the different
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things that they've dealt with,
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both positive and negative
and some of the pitfalls.
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And I think we have a bit of more
of an understanding of all that now.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah.
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Writing the book is actually
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and coming up with
the ideas is the easy part.
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Yeah.
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It's, it's, getting it, edited
and published to the point where,
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other people like it
and we'll put it out there,
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and then the marketing is going to be
another beast to wrestle and wrangle.
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I'm not a marketing person,
so this should be interesting.
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Back to that in a in a minute.
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Yeah, but just talk about the journey
a little bit.
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And, this is where, you know, you really
do have to check everything out.
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And sometimes when you do,
you still can have problems.
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The book is being conventionally
published.
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In our market, it's going to be print
on demand and some others.
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And it's the way the distributors
hang on the line.
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But what happened is
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we had a large company, large publisher,
well known, and well respected.
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It was going to take care of this and,
send us off to a department
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that, unknown to us, was owned
by a international situation,
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and we had gotten two thirds of the way
through the, editing process
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and finalization.
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And all of a sudden,
I had sent them an email on something
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and about the website,
the staff email, just all at once.
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About two weeks later,
I got an email from a Gmail account
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saying, oh, yeah, the website's been down
for maintenance, and,
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we're still here, so just contact us
over email as I'm going. No.
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Yeah, that
doesn't instill a whole lot of confidence.
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And I have a friend
who's in the entertainment
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industry who's kind of acting
like my guardian angel,
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and he's like,
you need to get the heck out of Dodge.
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Oh, okay. Okay.
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Yeah, it was exactly what happened.
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But it wasted,
like three months of effort.
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And it did, you know,
and then they kept coming back with stuff
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where they were editing your words
and changing things around.
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And, you know, it's like, no,
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you don't change the author's words.
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I mean, you do if you're asked to.
But that wasn't the case here.
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It was more go through it, make sure all
the words spelled correctly and format it.
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That's somehow I, you know, if,
if if you want a coffee,
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the barista just needs to say, here's
your coffee, sir.
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We don't need drama, but we got it really?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Tom is laughing somewhere.
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Yes, I'm sure insights, boy.
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Go to the website.
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The details are there,
but you have to dig for them a little.
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But anyway, on that note, we were able
to, fortunately get out of that.
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I had to stop a payment on a credit card,
you know, as a chargeback and everything.
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So we didn't lose money,
but fortunately, we were able to do that.
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Now everybody is so and so.
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Should we mention where you can find it?
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Yeah. Well, of course we're going
to mention where you can find it.
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And it's on Amazon.
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And you there's two ways to get to it.
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You can either do it directly at Amazon
or if you go to user
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friendly Dot show and go to our shop
and click through it.
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From there, we got a little bit of a,
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reference for that, plus anything else
you might buy on Amazon at the time.
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So I don't mind
taking a little bit of Jeff Bezos money.
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He doesn't mind giving it to us.
So that's help.
473
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:04,323
The show doesn't cost any more to do that.
474
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,658
But the thing of it is,
is yeah, it's available on Amazon.
475
00:22:06,658 --> 00:22:10,295
But there's a direct link on our website,
cyber Hockey, Roscosmos,
476
00:22:10,295 --> 00:22:13,365
the main website for the book, of course,
can get to it from there as well.
477
00:22:13,965 --> 00:22:16,802
And right now
we're going through an introduction issue.
478
00:22:16,802 --> 00:22:18,770
Starting to say earlier
dealing with the marketing,
479
00:22:18,770 --> 00:22:22,874
which is updating the websites
and doing all the other stuff, and the,
480
00:22:22,874 --> 00:22:26,878
distributor sent over a marketing plan
outline, which we're going through now.
481
00:22:26,878 --> 00:22:29,881
We're going to do
this is our soft launch, as they call it,
482
00:22:29,981 --> 00:22:32,651
and then the hard launch will be in
about 30 days where there's going to be,
483
00:22:32,651 --> 00:22:34,853
you know, regular promotion
and all that kind of stuff.
484
00:22:34,853 --> 00:22:37,823
But yeah, definitely something
that's worth checking out in my opinion.
485
00:22:37,823 --> 00:22:40,292
Now it's on Kindle if you prefer, right.
486
00:22:40,292 --> 00:22:41,460
You can get around the Kindle
487
00:22:42,394 --> 00:22:44,529
and then you could get a hard.
488
00:22:44,529 --> 00:22:45,997
Yeah, yeah.
489
00:22:45,997 --> 00:22:49,401
So it's depending on what is preferred
or you know what,
490
00:22:49,835 --> 00:22:51,536
I think you should check them out.
491
00:22:51,536 --> 00:22:52,471
Yeah. Both.
492
00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:54,573
Go ahead and buy
both and see what you prefer you know.
493
00:22:54,573 --> 00:22:57,576
Yeah.
494
00:22:58,543 --> 00:23:00,412
Oh. What the theme of videos is.
495
00:23:00,412 --> 00:23:01,546
It's been quite the journey.
496
00:23:01,546 --> 00:23:03,815
And then the next one
that's just about out
497
00:23:03,815 --> 00:23:06,818
is the first one in the Cyber
Hawk series called Rise of Heroes.
498
00:23:07,452 --> 00:23:10,822
And we're through the final,
editing process on that right now
499
00:23:10,922 --> 00:23:11,823
as we speak here.
500
00:23:11,823 --> 00:23:13,325
So probably by the time this airs,
501
00:23:13,325 --> 00:23:16,962
hopefully it will be available
to purchase all sorts cyber hackers.com.
502
00:23:17,863 --> 00:23:19,698
And, I don't know if.
503
00:23:19,698 --> 00:23:21,099
Gretchen,
is there anything else you want to tell us
504
00:23:21,099 --> 00:23:23,101
in our last 30s of the segment?
505
00:23:23,101 --> 00:23:25,904
I don't know, I can hardly believe
that it's actually happening.
506
00:23:25,904 --> 00:23:27,339
So I'm excited,
507
00:23:28,707 --> 00:23:29,608
I think, from everybody.
508
00:23:29,608 --> 00:23:30,509
Congratulations.
509
00:23:30,509 --> 00:23:33,512
I mean, you've worked for this, and it's,
510
00:23:33,779 --> 00:23:37,682
it's kind of nice to really just see
it actually actually be there.
511
00:23:38,183 --> 00:23:38,617
All right.
512
00:23:38,617 --> 00:23:40,051
This is user friendly 2.0.
513
00:23:40,051 --> 00:23:43,054
We'll be back after the break.
514
00:23:43,321 --> 00:23:46,324
The snow's coming down.
515
00:23:46,892 --> 00:23:49,895
I'm watching, you.
516
00:23:50,762 --> 00:23:56,034
I love people around and maybe any time,
517
00:23:58,270 --> 00:24:01,039
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529
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All right,
so let's close for the year or something.
530
00:24:31,369 --> 00:24:35,273
Very very happy
sarcasm sign is actually a topic
531
00:24:35,273 --> 00:24:37,509
that's come up and was something
that we were asked to talk about.
532
00:24:37,509 --> 00:24:40,512
And when I started looking into this, it's
kind of like, yeah,
533
00:24:40,712 --> 00:24:43,682
we all need to be aware this time of year,
we tend to all get very busy.
534
00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:46,051
You're dealing with stuff,
especially right now.
535
00:24:46,051 --> 00:24:49,054
Christmas is what when this airs,
when five days away or something.
536
00:24:49,054 --> 00:24:52,524
I mean we're it's that time of year,
last minute stuff.
537
00:24:52,524 --> 00:24:55,260
And you know, you're dealing with things,
trying to think about it.
538
00:24:55,260 --> 00:25:00,966
And even people that are very, very up on
scams are going to have some problems.
539
00:25:00,966 --> 00:25:04,102
And what I wanted to do
was talk about a few of these.
540
00:25:04,569 --> 00:25:06,304
Now, these aren't necessarily like new.
541
00:25:06,304 --> 00:25:08,273
This is just come out
and somebody dreamed it up.
542
00:25:08,273 --> 00:25:09,407
But there's
543
00:25:09,407 --> 00:25:10,675
either stuff that's happened in the past
544
00:25:10,675 --> 00:25:13,378
that's really coming back
or kind of a reboot, if you will, or,
545
00:25:13,378 --> 00:25:15,480
you know, update to something
that was going on before.
546
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,783
But the first one here is one that,
547
00:25:19,317 --> 00:25:21,987
a lot of people have had this happen
and it's very easy to do.
548
00:25:21,987 --> 00:25:24,189
This started about two years ago
and it's been ramping up.
549
00:25:24,189 --> 00:25:27,192
And it has to do with the tap cart,
you know, like have to pay.
550
00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:31,062
So most of our credit cards,
you can put them into the reader,
551
00:25:31,062 --> 00:25:32,831
as always with the chip
or you can tap them.
552
00:25:32,831 --> 00:25:36,935
Well that's fine and usually very secure
except at an ATM machine.
553
00:25:36,935 --> 00:25:38,003
Now here's what's going on.
554
00:25:38,003 --> 00:25:41,172
Involves glue and somebody that appears
to be very friendly
555
00:25:41,439 --> 00:25:43,141
and usually to somebody,
but you don't see the other
556
00:25:43,141 --> 00:25:46,211
when you walk up to the ATM
machine, right, to put your card in.
557
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:49,214
And the reader won't accept your card.
558
00:25:49,247 --> 00:25:50,582
Yeah. Put it in at someone. Oh, yeah.
559
00:25:50,582 --> 00:25:51,917
You know,
we were having problems with that either.
560
00:25:51,917 --> 00:25:53,818
Just use your tap, the reader won't you?
561
00:25:53,818 --> 00:25:56,488
Will they put glue in the readers?
What's happened?
562
00:25:56,488 --> 00:25:57,422
Oh, so
563
00:25:58,456 --> 00:26:00,592
people started having problems
where money was missing
564
00:26:00,592 --> 00:26:03,595
from their accounts after using the ATM
machines in this process.
565
00:26:03,595 --> 00:26:05,697
Oh, well, here's why.
566
00:26:05,697 --> 00:26:08,433
When you use a standard ATM card,
567
00:26:08,433 --> 00:26:11,436
your session is open
while the card's in the machine.
568
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:14,105
When you take back your card
or session, well, you can't do that
569
00:26:14,105 --> 00:26:17,409
with a Tap card,
so it opens and then closes later.
570
00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:20,845
So what happens is you do need to reenter
your Pin code on every transaction.
571
00:26:20,845 --> 00:26:22,314
So that's where the other person
572
00:26:22,314 --> 00:26:24,816
somewhere standing there
watching you put in your pin.
573
00:26:24,816 --> 00:26:28,620
So when you leave the machine, unless
you manually log out, it's still open.
574
00:26:29,521 --> 00:26:32,657
So the bad guy just comes up afterwards
and starts doing other transactions
575
00:26:33,325 --> 00:26:36,061
on your session, on your account.
576
00:26:36,061 --> 00:26:36,361
Okay.
577
00:26:36,361 --> 00:26:40,599
So then the lesson here is
if you try and use your card
578
00:26:41,032 --> 00:26:44,569
and you can't stick it into the reader
like you normally do,
579
00:26:44,569 --> 00:26:46,471
and somebody comes up to you
580
00:26:46,471 --> 00:26:50,275
and suggests this, you need to go,
oh, I'll do this later
581
00:26:50,342 --> 00:26:55,981
and walk yourself into the side
inside the bank where the ATM is located
582
00:26:56,314 --> 00:26:59,684
and go, hey,
and tell them what's going on.
583
00:27:00,151 --> 00:27:02,921
Yeah, it's
actually you're very much spot on.
584
00:27:02,921 --> 00:27:05,557
Report it because people aren't
going to know about this.
585
00:27:05,557 --> 00:27:06,324
And yes,
586
00:27:06,324 --> 00:27:06,825
there's a way
587
00:27:06,825 --> 00:27:10,128
that you can make sure you log out of
your account when you close the session.
588
00:27:10,562 --> 00:27:14,099
Now, I personally don't use debit or ATM
cards anymore just because
589
00:27:14,099 --> 00:27:17,736
with all the scamming that's going on
and you lose a credit card number,
590
00:27:17,736 --> 00:27:20,071
somebody can rub your card,
you lose your ATM debit
591
00:27:20,071 --> 00:27:21,873
card number,
someone actually can clean out
592
00:27:21,873 --> 00:27:23,942
your physical money
from your bank account.
593
00:27:23,942 --> 00:27:27,812
And, so, you know, you definitely want to
be careful with this type of thing.
594
00:27:27,812 --> 00:27:29,914
And the tap to pay is usually secure.
595
00:27:29,914 --> 00:27:31,683
It's encrypted and all of that.
596
00:27:31,683 --> 00:27:35,120
But this is one situation where there's
a little bit of a glitch in the system,
597
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,223
because the ATM doesn't know
when to shut down your session.
598
00:27:38,223 --> 00:27:39,958
There's no way it would.
599
00:27:39,958 --> 00:27:42,727
So they just got it where it keeps it
open.
600
00:27:42,727 --> 00:27:44,829
Yeah. You have to reenter your Pin code.
601
00:27:44,829 --> 00:27:47,599
Well, you know somebody's watching
if you're not thinking about it.
602
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,601
And this other person's,
you know, trying to be nice.
603
00:27:49,601 --> 00:27:49,934
So yeah.
604
00:27:49,934 --> 00:27:51,803
Just have to pay the other person
standing there,
605
00:27:51,803 --> 00:27:54,205
I can assure
you, is looking at that keypad.
606
00:27:54,205 --> 00:27:57,208
And that's how
they get at the information. So
607
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:58,810
there is a way to log out.
608
00:27:58,810 --> 00:28:01,346
Unfortunately, it's
not the same for every bank.
609
00:28:01,346 --> 00:28:04,349
So you have to figure out based on the ATM
you're using how to do it.
610
00:28:05,050 --> 00:28:07,419
But something doesn't seem quite right,
611
00:28:07,419 --> 00:28:10,422
like the reader doesn't work,
which would be really weird.
612
00:28:10,989 --> 00:28:11,923
Gretchen, you're spot on.
613
00:28:11,923 --> 00:28:15,694
I would say, you know,
just listen to yourself and, you know,
614
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:19,130
go into the branch or not at the bank,
figure something else out.
615
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:21,766
But just don't let yourself get scammed.
616
00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,635
Because this would
be very, very easy to do.
617
00:28:24,669 --> 00:28:27,038
And you don't need that heartache.
618
00:28:27,038 --> 00:28:28,006
No you don't.
619
00:28:28,006 --> 00:28:29,207
And it is something
620
00:28:29,207 --> 00:28:32,610
that especially around this time of year,
even the other thing of it is,
621
00:28:32,610 --> 00:28:36,448
is there's all kinds of differences
in the time you have to get
622
00:28:36,448 --> 00:28:39,451
your money back and make claims and,
you know, the banks,
623
00:28:39,951 --> 00:28:41,753
it's different from a credit card.
624
00:28:41,753 --> 00:28:43,621
But even if you do get on it,
you're going to be
625
00:28:43,621 --> 00:28:45,457
without your money
for some period of time.
626
00:28:45,457 --> 00:28:48,460
And if it's right before Christmas
and you're trying to do your shopping
627
00:28:48,693 --> 00:28:50,762
and now all of a sudden
you don't have your resources to do that,
628
00:28:50,762 --> 00:28:53,732
even if you get it back in a few days,
it could still really screw things up.
629
00:28:54,999 --> 00:28:57,435
Yeah, yeah. So what's next?
630
00:28:57,435 --> 00:28:59,337
What do we have to worry about?
631
00:28:59,337 --> 00:29:03,374
The next one is a new version of a scam
that has been around for a while.
632
00:29:03,374 --> 00:29:05,410
Gretchen, your mom had this happen to her.
633
00:29:05,410 --> 00:29:08,113
I know it's called the panic call.
634
00:29:08,113 --> 00:29:09,280
Oh, yeah.
635
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,883
So before I get into
how they've changed this,
636
00:29:12,984 --> 00:29:15,453
tell us what happened to your mom
real quick.
637
00:29:15,453 --> 00:29:17,555
Okay. She kept.
638
00:29:17,555 --> 00:29:22,894
She was getting a call from a female
that sounded completely upset,
639
00:29:23,461 --> 00:29:26,297
and she was calling her grandma,
640
00:29:26,297 --> 00:29:28,800
and, Oh,
641
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,803
that's, you know, oh,
my mom has grandchildren,
642
00:29:32,270 --> 00:29:36,107
so, And she was trying
643
00:29:36,107 --> 00:29:39,110
to get my mom to send money
644
00:29:39,477 --> 00:29:42,947
because she was in jail
and she was in trouble.
645
00:29:42,947 --> 00:29:46,317
And all of this drama, it was bad.
646
00:29:46,851 --> 00:29:49,087
My mom didn't call for it.
647
00:29:49,087 --> 00:29:50,121
My mom's pretty smart.
648
00:29:50,121 --> 00:29:55,593
She's also had others call,
a young man who calls his grandma.
649
00:29:55,593 --> 00:29:57,729
I need blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
650
00:29:57,729 --> 00:30:01,132
And of course, my mom not having any grand
651
00:30:01,533 --> 00:30:05,637
male grandchildren says to him,
you need to get a better job.
652
00:30:06,204 --> 00:30:07,338
You're ruining your life.
653
00:30:09,974 --> 00:30:12,076
Because the guy was a scammer.
654
00:30:12,076 --> 00:30:14,312
Housing was, you know, and it's just so
655
00:30:14,312 --> 00:30:15,780
the thing of it is, is
what's happening now.
656
00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:18,249
This is a this is something
that's been around for a while.
657
00:30:18,249 --> 00:30:19,951
I think that happened to her
a couple of years ago.
658
00:30:19,951 --> 00:30:22,120
And I remember quite a few years ago.
659
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,888
So that part's not new,
660
00:30:23,888 --> 00:30:27,525
but what they're doing now,
the new twist on it, if you will,
661
00:30:28,059 --> 00:30:32,297
is the scammers go online on your Facebook
or whatever and get voice
662
00:30:32,297 --> 00:30:34,299
clips or record a phone call or something,
663
00:30:34,299 --> 00:30:37,101
but they figure out a way
to get the actual person's voice.
664
00:30:37,101 --> 00:30:41,372
And then using AI, they now make the call
in the correct voice of the person.
665
00:30:41,372 --> 00:30:44,275
That would be the daughter or whatever
that's in jail.
666
00:30:44,275 --> 00:30:46,077
You know, a victim gets a call,
I've been arrested.
667
00:30:46,077 --> 00:30:48,847
Send money now,
kind of like what you were talking about,
668
00:30:48,847 --> 00:30:52,483
but it is a lot more dangerous
because it's you're going
669
00:30:52,483 --> 00:30:55,486
to recognize the voice is what it's.
670
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:57,722
So, the way they work.
671
00:30:57,722 --> 00:31:00,525
This is emotional pressure.
The idea is to get you all worked up.
672
00:31:00,525 --> 00:31:03,528
Oh, there's a, you know, kind of thing
to not think about things completely.
673
00:31:03,761 --> 00:31:06,898
They still use caller ID spoofing
even though that's supposed to be fixed.
674
00:31:06,898 --> 00:31:08,633
It isn't completely.
675
00:31:08,633 --> 00:31:11,102
And the sound, the voice sounds right.
676
00:31:11,102 --> 00:31:12,003
That's the same.
677
00:31:12,003 --> 00:31:14,639
Your voice is now a password
and it's public.
678
00:31:14,639 --> 00:31:16,608
That's the way to think about it on that.
679
00:31:16,608 --> 00:31:18,142
So how do you defend yourself
against this?
680
00:31:18,142 --> 00:31:19,477
Well, one of the things you're suggesting,
681
00:31:19,477 --> 00:31:22,847
and this goes back to when these things
started, is having what they call a family
682
00:31:22,847 --> 00:31:25,850
safe word in other words,
it's like a password.
683
00:31:26,084 --> 00:31:28,052
Everybody that supposed to know
it knows it.
684
00:31:28,052 --> 00:31:29,087
And when you call,
685
00:31:29,087 --> 00:31:32,690
you can ask the individual, you know,
what is the password or what, how are you.
686
00:31:32,724 --> 00:31:33,758
And do that.
687
00:31:33,758 --> 00:31:36,494
And if they're not able
to come up with it, then there's a problem
688
00:31:36,494 --> 00:31:39,230
you're probably going to get hung up on
at that point.
689
00:31:39,230 --> 00:31:42,166
The next thing to do is to hang up
and call the relative
690
00:31:42,166 --> 00:31:45,536
or whoever back directly,
not at the number on the caller ID either.
691
00:31:45,536 --> 00:31:46,638
You would want to call them back
692
00:31:46,638 --> 00:31:50,375
at a known good phone number to,
you know, find out what they're doing.
693
00:31:50,375 --> 00:31:54,345
And really, when it comes down to this,
never act on panic calls.
694
00:31:54,712 --> 00:31:57,548
The whole idea is you've got a loved one
that's in trouble.
695
00:31:57,548 --> 00:32:00,151
Yeah, you're going
to want to help them. But,
696
00:32:01,619 --> 00:32:04,222
you know, and it's hard to say this
because it's not like
697
00:32:04,222 --> 00:32:06,457
you don't want to help your family,
but take the steps
698
00:32:06,457 --> 00:32:10,061
to make sure you're doing the right thing,
because 99% of the time, it won't be.
699
00:32:10,828 --> 00:32:12,330
And it's something.
700
00:32:12,330 --> 00:32:16,034
And these kind of things will eventually
get you to send money with gift cards or,
701
00:32:16,467 --> 00:32:19,837
you know, these transfer things that you
can't get it back and that type of thing.
702
00:32:19,837 --> 00:32:23,241
And it becomes incredibly difficult,
if even possible, to recover
703
00:32:23,241 --> 00:32:24,375
something like that.
704
00:32:24,375 --> 00:32:27,545
And people have lost thousands,
tens of thousands of dollars.
705
00:32:27,545 --> 00:32:31,849
There's really some stories out there
that are very, very scary.
706
00:32:32,383 --> 00:32:35,386
So somebody is going to get a lot of coal
this year.
707
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,889
Yeah. What you're saying,
708
00:32:37,889 --> 00:32:40,725
speaking of which
is something called dark pattern scams.
709
00:32:42,794 --> 00:32:44,228
Dark pattern scams.
710
00:32:44,228 --> 00:32:45,163
Yeah. All right.
711
00:32:45,163 --> 00:32:48,032
So this is another one.
712
00:32:48,032 --> 00:32:50,401
It's been described to me
that this isn't even illegal.
713
00:32:50,401 --> 00:32:53,371
It's just deceptive. Okay.
714
00:32:53,371 --> 00:32:57,675
I'm going to use an example of where this
really hit the news about two years ago.
715
00:32:57,675 --> 00:32:59,410
But we're starting to see it in
a lot of other places.
716
00:32:59,410 --> 00:33:02,413
It is the product of people, money.
717
00:33:03,014 --> 00:33:06,150
Now, PayPal, for anybody that might not
know, is a service
718
00:33:06,150 --> 00:33:09,420
that used to be owned by eBay,
and you use it to pay things online.
719
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:13,391
They've gotten into cryptocurrency
and stuff lately and that type of a thing.
720
00:33:13,391 --> 00:33:15,159
There's different schools of
thought on it.
721
00:33:15,159 --> 00:33:17,528
It's safe or it's not,
or if people like it or they don't,
722
00:33:17,528 --> 00:33:20,531
but that's not particularly relevant
because what's happening here
723
00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:23,701
is another part of this,
where you get a pop up
724
00:33:23,701 --> 00:33:27,138
ad somewhere or email or whatever,
even from PayPal,
725
00:33:27,171 --> 00:33:30,074
because they own this company,
PayPal, honey.
726
00:33:30,074 --> 00:33:32,543
And it says, install this
browser extension.
727
00:33:32,543 --> 00:33:35,446
Anytime you go to a website,
we'll find the best deal.
728
00:33:35,446 --> 00:33:38,983
We'll get you coupon codes, we'll do
all of these different things, okay,
729
00:33:39,884 --> 00:33:44,389
so what's actually happening here
and the reason why this is a problem
730
00:33:45,023 --> 00:33:47,759
and PayPal funny is by the way, it's
not the only one that's doing this.
731
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:50,762
It's just one of the better
known ones is two things.
732
00:33:50,762 --> 00:33:54,232
Most of the time,
especially content creators
733
00:33:54,232 --> 00:33:57,235
on YouTube
shows like us, a lot of different places.
734
00:33:57,735 --> 00:33:58,970
We'll have links that,
735
00:33:58,970 --> 00:34:01,873
get your organization,
your show, a little bit of a kickback.
736
00:34:01,873 --> 00:34:04,242
If you make a purchase through, it's like,
737
00:34:04,242 --> 00:34:05,676
you know,
we were talking about your book, right?
738
00:34:05,676 --> 00:34:06,878
And if you go to User Friendly's
739
00:34:06,878 --> 00:34:08,513
website and click on your book,
740
00:34:08,513 --> 00:34:11,315
you still pay the same price
for that doesn't change anything.
741
00:34:11,315 --> 00:34:14,252
But because we've referred you to Amazon,
there's
742
00:34:14,252 --> 00:34:18,656
a main promotion thing in there
where we get a little bit back
743
00:34:18,656 --> 00:34:20,191
and then once you're on Amazon, of course,
744
00:34:20,191 --> 00:34:22,560
if you buy anything else,
it works for that too.
745
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,663
So it's just a really nice way to help
creators and other small businesses.
746
00:34:26,097 --> 00:34:28,800
Well, when you install this thing,
when you go to the website
747
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,969
that it's referring you to,
it changes the referral code, unknown
748
00:34:31,969 --> 00:34:35,239
to you, to send the money
to PayPal or PayPal, honey.
749
00:34:35,973 --> 00:34:40,078
So now the person referring
or the company referral
750
00:34:40,111 --> 00:34:43,081
never sees what they should see
from doing the promotion.
751
00:34:43,414 --> 00:34:45,817
And the other thing
that's coming down with this, at least
752
00:34:45,817 --> 00:34:49,020
the allegation is, is that it doesn't
always give you the cheapest price either.
753
00:34:49,554 --> 00:34:52,557
So if you're the person buying it,
it might make some suggestions.
754
00:34:52,857 --> 00:34:56,761
But if for some reason
they have, a contract with somebody
755
00:34:56,761 --> 00:34:58,996
or something else
or want to promote one brand over another,
756
00:34:58,996 --> 00:35:01,099
it will never tell
you about the lowest price.
757
00:35:02,233 --> 00:35:04,068
So you really have to think for yourself.
758
00:35:04,068 --> 00:35:05,803
Yeah, yeah.
759
00:35:05,803 --> 00:35:08,072
And,
760
00:35:08,072 --> 00:35:09,373
I think think of it this way.
761
00:35:09,373 --> 00:35:11,309
If the product is free, it's really not.
762
00:35:11,309 --> 00:35:14,312
You're the product
when you think about it, right.
763
00:35:14,312 --> 00:35:15,046
There is a cost.
764
00:35:15,046 --> 00:35:17,281
It just might not be money
out of your pocket.
765
00:35:17,281 --> 00:35:20,251
And this is true
especially in shopping. So
766
00:35:20,618 --> 00:35:23,621
best thing to do is review your browser
extensions.
767
00:35:23,654 --> 00:35:25,656
The different browsers
have different ways of doing this,
768
00:35:25,656 --> 00:35:28,292
but there's usually pretty straightforward
to get in.
769
00:35:28,292 --> 00:35:30,995
Look up instructions on how to do that
if you need to just,
770
00:35:30,995 --> 00:35:33,531
you know, search for it and
771
00:35:33,531 --> 00:35:36,901
remove anything that you don't actually
use or at least deactivated.
772
00:35:36,901 --> 00:35:39,871
So if you're going in there and going,
what is this?
773
00:35:40,471 --> 00:35:42,273
You probably aren't going to use it.
774
00:35:42,273 --> 00:35:44,375
And if you do need to use it,
you'll figure out very quickly
775
00:35:44,375 --> 00:35:46,711
that whatever it is went away
and it was legitimate.
776
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:49,380
Then you just reactivated or reinstall it.
777
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:52,783
But again, this is something
that actually affects the seller
778
00:35:52,783 --> 00:35:57,054
and the buyer in a negative way
and makes money for the third party.
779
00:35:57,054 --> 00:35:58,189
Now there's some of these that seem
780
00:35:58,189 --> 00:36:01,192
to be very legitimate on Capital
one credit card has one, and
781
00:36:01,259 --> 00:36:02,760
I've never heard of a problem with that.
782
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,796
And I know that I've used that for some
referrals and things, just to be sure.
783
00:36:05,796 --> 00:36:08,432
I started testing all this
when I found out about this,
784
00:36:08,432 --> 00:36:11,102
and that one we did get the credit for,
at least when I used it.
785
00:36:11,102 --> 00:36:15,006
So it's not that they're all bad,
and it's not that all these services are
786
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:18,009
somehow should be avoided,
but it is very important to make sure
787
00:36:18,442 --> 00:36:20,578
that you're doing business.
788
00:36:20,578 --> 00:36:24,182
I would say with somebody that's legitimate, PayPal is a legitimate company.
789
00:36:25,116 --> 00:36:25,783
So it's
790
00:36:25,783 --> 00:36:28,953
not like, you know,
this is some third party weirdo thing.
791
00:36:28,953 --> 00:36:32,256
It is something that is, is out there.
792
00:36:32,256 --> 00:36:35,026
So anyway, I again,
793
00:36:35,026 --> 00:36:39,063
that just sounds like they deserve
to have Kohl's stuffed in their stocking.
794
00:36:39,063 --> 00:36:43,134
Yeah, it just seems like a
they're going to be in court.
795
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:45,836
There's a class action that was filed,
you know all that kind of stuff.
796
00:36:45,836 --> 00:36:49,874
So everybody in the class action
you know, get a preorder of hash browns
797
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:50,908
at a local restaurant.
798
00:36:50,908 --> 00:36:53,911
It settles,
but the attorneys will get paid.
799
00:36:56,614 --> 00:36:57,582
Oh my goodness.
800
00:36:57,582 --> 00:36:58,316
All right.
801
00:36:58,316 --> 00:37:01,719
Let's see, next one that I have
on my list here is remote chip scam.
802
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,188
So back to the chip parts.
803
00:37:04,188 --> 00:37:04,655
All right.
804
00:37:04,655 --> 00:37:09,460
So this is another interesting one
and one to think about again
805
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:15,299
with the contactless have to pay lanes
modern version of ATM skimming.
806
00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:16,033
If you haven't heard of C,
807
00:37:16,033 --> 00:37:18,836
I mean that's where the bad guy puts
something over the reader
808
00:37:18,836 --> 00:37:20,671
so it can read your card
as you're putting it down.
809
00:37:20,671 --> 00:37:21,505
Usually has a camera.
810
00:37:21,505 --> 00:37:25,643
So I can see the, keypad and chip cards.
811
00:37:25,643 --> 00:37:28,512
And these type of things
were designed to help with this.
812
00:37:28,512 --> 00:37:32,316
Well, the bad guys have figured out
a bit of a way around that, and one
813
00:37:32,316 --> 00:37:35,853
that you might not even know
that you've had this happen
814
00:37:36,354 --> 00:37:39,357
until days later
when you see your credit card statement.
815
00:37:39,590 --> 00:37:43,728
Way this works is the thieves have two NFC
near field communication devices.
816
00:37:44,228 --> 00:37:46,831
This is the kind of thing
that's built into the reader credit
817
00:37:46,831 --> 00:37:50,401
card machine, ATM,
whatever to read the card when you tap it.
818
00:37:51,369 --> 00:37:51,736
So you
819
00:37:51,736 --> 00:37:54,739
have a receiver on one end
and somebody standing at the other.
820
00:37:54,772 --> 00:37:57,008
Let's say it's a payment terminal
at a store or something.
821
00:37:57,008 --> 00:38:00,011
You're standing at the self-checkout
payment terminal,
822
00:38:00,077 --> 00:38:02,513
and the other guy has a reader,
and they walk by your wallet
823
00:38:02,513 --> 00:38:04,882
and it transmits
the code from the card in your wallet.
824
00:38:04,882 --> 00:38:08,052
The receiver and the receiver unlocks
the payment terminal.
825
00:38:08,052 --> 00:38:10,388
And you're paying with now
the bad guys paying with your credit card.
826
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:13,591
You don't even know that the South
Terminal believes that your card
827
00:38:13,591 --> 00:38:16,560
is physically present.
828
00:38:16,661 --> 00:38:18,462
You know, and that kind of a thing.
829
00:38:18,462 --> 00:38:20,364
So this is becoming a thing.
830
00:38:20,364 --> 00:38:23,768
And the equipment to do
this is not that hard or expensive to buy.
831
00:38:24,502 --> 00:38:27,772
You can find NFC and, NFC transceivers
832
00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:31,375
for legitimate purposes on Amazon
and a lot of other places.
833
00:38:31,942 --> 00:38:34,545
And there are good reasons
to have that kind of technology.
834
00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:36,414
This is a bad way to use it.
835
00:38:36,414 --> 00:38:39,950
So you're dealing with something here
where there's no physical card theft.
836
00:38:40,584 --> 00:38:42,920
It works through pockets, jackets
or purses.
837
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:47,191
And the victims many times
don't realize until quite a bit later
838
00:38:47,858 --> 00:38:49,794
what about those weird sleeves?
839
00:38:51,162 --> 00:38:53,597
Yeah, that's exactly what you do about it.
840
00:38:53,597 --> 00:38:55,533
Oh, okay.
841
00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:58,336
Now RFID blocking wallets, sleeves.
842
00:38:58,336 --> 00:39:01,238
There's different things like that
that you can buy is fairly inexpensive.
843
00:39:01,238 --> 00:39:03,007
Again, you can get these anywhere online.
844
00:39:03,007 --> 00:39:06,310
And a lot of stores
and you basically slide your card.
845
00:39:06,310 --> 00:39:08,446
And these are good to use for passports
and other things
846
00:39:08,446 --> 00:39:09,847
that have these type of technologies
847
00:39:09,847 --> 00:39:12,750
which slide your card in the pocket
and lock it.
848
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:16,087
And the other thing of video
is if you don't see it
849
00:39:16,087 --> 00:39:17,355
or if you don't use it, have to pay.
850
00:39:17,355 --> 00:39:19,223
If that's not something you use,
you can turn it off.
851
00:39:19,223 --> 00:39:22,827
Usually a credit card,
you can go into your account, your online
852
00:39:22,827 --> 00:39:25,830
account, say, hey, I don't want to use
this, don't, you know, don't have it work.
853
00:39:26,097 --> 00:39:29,133
The other thing that is recommended
for this and a number of other
854
00:39:29,133 --> 00:39:32,703
things, is most credit cards offer a way
that you can go on into your settings
855
00:39:33,137 --> 00:39:35,740
and get alerts when the card is used.
856
00:39:35,740 --> 00:39:39,276
And a lot of people have these set up
defaults, different things like that.
857
00:39:39,276 --> 00:39:42,279
But you want to set something
called low transaction alerts.
858
00:39:42,613 --> 00:39:45,616
There's a lot of times people are doing
this aren't going to run up $10,000.
859
00:39:45,616 --> 00:39:49,286
That would set off a lot of bells,
but they might do 100 bucks kind of thing.
860
00:39:50,221 --> 00:39:53,424
And, from that standpoint,
861
00:39:54,425 --> 00:39:56,327
those are just,
you know, some of the different things.
862
00:39:56,327 --> 00:39:58,863
It's always a good idea
to keep track of your financial accounts
863
00:39:58,863 --> 00:40:01,866
and use the tools that are available
before it takes a little more time.
864
00:40:01,999 --> 00:40:04,635
But at the end of the day, it's going
to save you a lot of time and heartache.
865
00:40:04,635 --> 00:40:07,705
Did you get hit with
one of these of many scams?
866
00:40:07,705 --> 00:40:14,078
You know, so it's too bad really,
because the technology and the convenience
867
00:40:14,645 --> 00:40:18,282
of things like tap to pay are really good,
and they actually are designed well,
868
00:40:18,282 --> 00:40:19,884
they're encrypted,
all this different kind of stuff.
869
00:40:19,884 --> 00:40:23,387
But if you can actually read and do it
870
00:40:23,387 --> 00:40:26,390
in real time,
you do get around that protection.
871
00:40:26,724 --> 00:40:29,894
And it is definitely something that
I know.
872
00:40:29,894 --> 00:40:31,996
I put my cards in the blocker
873
00:40:31,996 --> 00:40:34,331
and it is a little bit of a pain
because every time you use it,
874
00:40:34,331 --> 00:40:35,833
you have to pull it out
and it's hard to put it back,
875
00:40:35,833 --> 00:40:37,301
and I've had that,
but you still should do it
876
00:40:37,301 --> 00:40:41,439
because it's that little bit of difficulty
is definitely worth doing
877
00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:44,442
so that you don't have
these kind of things happen.
878
00:40:44,675 --> 00:40:47,611
And if it's a credit card,
then you have, you know, I've my cards
879
00:40:47,611 --> 00:40:51,115
been run up and, you call the credit card
company and deal with it.
880
00:40:51,115 --> 00:40:52,216
But like we're saying earlier,
881
00:40:52,216 --> 00:40:55,219
if it's a debit card,
they actually get you your physical money
882
00:40:55,486 --> 00:40:59,890
and you want to make sure
that that just simply doesn't happen.
883
00:41:01,559 --> 00:41:03,027
All right.
884
00:41:03,027 --> 00:41:04,862
Do we want another one?
885
00:41:04,862 --> 00:41:06,330
Yeah. There's more.
886
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:09,333
Oh, this is so cheerful. Yes.
887
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:10,935
Happy holidays everybody.
888
00:41:10,935 --> 00:41:12,169
Let's tell you how
your money is going to get.
889
00:41:12,169 --> 00:41:14,939
So and actually what we want to do
is make sure that that doesn't happen.
890
00:41:14,939 --> 00:41:17,241
And that's really what this is about.
891
00:41:17,241 --> 00:41:17,575
Yeah.
892
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:21,946
So this one's not a new one but
it's still happening and happening a lot.
893
00:41:21,946 --> 00:41:25,216
And it has to do with the use of QR codes
on things like parking
894
00:41:25,216 --> 00:41:28,219
meters, restaurant menus,
that type of thing.
895
00:41:28,385 --> 00:41:31,388
So there's a lot of places
where you can go.
896
00:41:31,422 --> 00:41:34,124
We just we're a mansion,
which is a museum.
897
00:41:34,124 --> 00:41:37,228
You're in the Portland area,
that we like to go to every year,
898
00:41:37,228 --> 00:41:39,497
and you have to pay at the parking lot
to pay.
899
00:41:39,497 --> 00:41:40,831
Now, that might already be considered
900
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:42,733
a rip off,
but it's a legal one from the city.
901
00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:44,235
But this part isn't.
902
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:48,205
What the scammers will do is you scan
a QR code to pay for your parking.
903
00:41:48,372 --> 00:41:52,376
In this case, restaurant,
you might scan a QR code to see the menu.
904
00:41:52,376 --> 00:41:55,246
There's lots of different ways
that they make this work.
905
00:41:55,246 --> 00:41:57,982
Well, what the bad guy does is
they stick a fake QR code
906
00:41:57,982 --> 00:42:01,252
on top of the real one,
and if you do it right, you don't know it.
907
00:42:01,252 --> 00:42:02,953
It's almost like a skimmer in a way.
908
00:42:02,953 --> 00:42:05,556
So now you scan the code,
it goes online to a place
909
00:42:05,556 --> 00:42:06,457
where you can make your payment.
910
00:42:06,457 --> 00:42:07,758
So now you're putting in your credit card
911
00:42:07,758 --> 00:42:10,794
information and stuff to make payment
for parking and giving the bad guy
912
00:42:11,028 --> 00:42:12,496
all that information.
913
00:42:12,496 --> 00:42:13,797
On top of that, you didn't pay to park.
914
00:42:13,797 --> 00:42:15,933
So you're gonna probably have a
pretty good ticket when you come out too,
915
00:42:15,933 --> 00:42:17,334
because they're going
to say, well, you never paid.
916
00:42:19,503 --> 00:42:20,704
You know,
917
00:42:20,704 --> 00:42:23,173
same thing
918
00:42:23,173 --> 00:42:25,743
on the restaurant menus
and stuff like that, too.
919
00:42:25,743 --> 00:42:28,312
We ran into this when,
Jeremy was still with us.
920
00:42:28,312 --> 00:42:29,880
We were up at, I think.
921
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,184
Oh, like, oh, we're,
one of the areas around Lake Tahoe.
922
00:42:34,718 --> 00:42:37,021
Was it South shore? North shore?
It would have been.
923
00:42:37,021 --> 00:42:39,857
It would have been
by the California border on 86.
924
00:42:39,857 --> 00:42:41,759
What is that? Truckee.
925
00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:42,293
Okay.
926
00:42:42,293 --> 00:42:43,761
We went to a restaurant.
927
00:42:43,761 --> 00:42:45,262
This is right after Covid.
928
00:42:45,262 --> 00:42:48,198
Kind of was starting to back off,
but they had everything touchless.
929
00:42:48,198 --> 00:42:49,500
So to get the menu for the restaurant,
930
00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,102
you had to scan a QR code
that was on the table.
931
00:42:52,102 --> 00:42:55,539
And this wasn't something I was thrilled
about anyway, but it worked.
932
00:42:55,573 --> 00:42:57,408
I mean, you got the menu up,
we didn't have a problem,
933
00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:01,378
but that's another place
where the bad guys will put a sticker.
934
00:43:01,378 --> 00:43:04,982
So you might even get the menu from that
restaurant if they've done their work.
935
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:08,052
And then when you go to pay for the meal,
we'll have something like, okay,
936
00:43:08,052 --> 00:43:09,920
you know,
put your order in. Now, pay for it.
937
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,556
You do.
And your credit card number, the bad guy
938
00:43:13,557 --> 00:43:15,326
love life.
939
00:43:15,326 --> 00:43:17,928
So reason it works.
940
00:43:17,928 --> 00:43:20,230
Really what it comes down to
it is through our code.
941
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:21,932
So you'll officially see them
all over the place.
942
00:43:21,932 --> 00:43:24,602
And generally they are press badges
QR codes on them.
943
00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:27,972
I mean, you know, it's used very much
in a lot of different ways.
944
00:43:28,839 --> 00:43:32,176
You don't see the URLs before click
and you scan the code and it opens
945
00:43:32,176 --> 00:43:34,144
to whatever website that URL goes to.
946
00:43:34,144 --> 00:43:36,246
You don't actually see what it is.
947
00:43:36,246 --> 00:43:36,747
You can look,
948
00:43:36,747 --> 00:43:39,750
it'll be in the bar, but most people don't
because you don't think to do it.
949
00:43:39,783 --> 00:43:41,752
And you do see this a lot in tourist
areas.
950
00:43:41,752 --> 00:43:44,622
You're on holiday
and thinking about other things,
951
00:43:44,622 --> 00:43:47,891
and the bad guys know that they know
exactly what they're doing.
952
00:43:48,459 --> 00:43:51,462
One of the things
that's been told me to me too, is I or,
953
00:43:51,462 --> 00:43:53,764
you know, cybersecurity
and work with people on that,
954
00:43:53,764 --> 00:43:56,500
and we have 80 hours
a day to defend against that.
955
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,503
These guys have 24 hours a day
to come up with these schemes.
956
00:43:59,903 --> 00:44:03,841
So that gives them a little bit of an
edge, you know, and unfortunately it does.
957
00:44:05,109 --> 00:44:09,079
So one of the things to look for is
if you do scan on to one of these things
958
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:12,249
that the payment site feels a little off,
or it asks you for
959
00:44:12,249 --> 00:44:15,252
unusual extra personal info.
960
00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:18,589
Or there's things like typos or odd URLs
that kind of stuff.
961
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:21,859
You know, the restaurant menu
962
00:44:21,859 --> 00:44:25,562
goes to my restaurant for you,
which that extension is Russia.
963
00:44:26,130 --> 00:44:28,666
That probably would be a good idea
to think that there's
964
00:44:28,666 --> 00:44:31,869
something really wrong here,
you know, if it feels off,
965
00:44:32,369 --> 00:44:35,939
unfortunately, with the use of AI
and stuff now, they're able to make it
966
00:44:35,939 --> 00:44:37,007
look a little more real.
967
00:44:37,007 --> 00:44:39,910
It isn't as like it was.
968
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:42,913
I think that
969
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,283
the best way to defend against this,
and there's not a 100%,
970
00:44:46,283 --> 00:44:49,520
is when you scan the QR code
that you want to use,
971
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,024
it does actually allow you to see the URL
that it's going to just most of us
972
00:44:54,024 --> 00:44:54,825
don't look at it.
973
00:44:54,825 --> 00:44:57,027
And depending on
how your device is configured,
974
00:44:57,027 --> 00:44:59,797
it may or may not automatically
be on the top of the browser,
975
00:45:00,764 --> 00:45:02,166
but there is a way to turn it on
976
00:45:02,166 --> 00:45:04,001
and a way to check for it
and just get in the habit
977
00:45:04,001 --> 00:45:06,103
of taking a second or two to,
you know, look at it.
978
00:45:06,103 --> 00:45:09,239
If it's, in the case of the parking lot,
it's supposed to go to
979
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:12,776
a thing called parking Kitty,
and it says so right on the sign.
980
00:45:12,976 --> 00:45:13,911
And it did.
981
00:45:13,911 --> 00:45:16,914
But if it's going to something
completely different or some weird thing,
982
00:45:17,147 --> 00:45:19,950
then it's a way to.
983
00:45:19,950 --> 00:45:22,953
No, that's
probably not something you want to get,
984
00:45:22,953 --> 00:45:25,923
you know, get involved
when you're with. So
985
00:45:25,989 --> 00:45:28,826
anyway, just some stuff and some heads up.
986
00:45:28,826 --> 00:45:31,829
This time of year, we're supposed
to be spending time with our families and
987
00:45:32,563 --> 00:45:35,699
being able to enjoy ourselves, participate
in our various religions,
988
00:45:35,699 --> 00:45:37,768
and do what's important to us.
989
00:45:37,768 --> 00:45:40,003
Not a time
that you want your money stolen.
990
00:45:40,003 --> 00:45:43,006
So just thinking about this
a little bit more
991
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,743
might save you a huge amount of hassle.
992
00:45:45,743 --> 00:45:47,711
All right,
now that we're done with all of that,
993
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,481
Christmas is coming up.
994
00:45:50,481 --> 00:45:53,250
It's your New Year's
is right around the corner.
995
00:45:53,250 --> 00:45:54,952
I can't believe it's already
that time of year.
996
00:45:54,952 --> 00:45:59,590
And I cannot believe we are starting
the eighth season of User Friendly 2.0.
997
00:45:59,590 --> 00:46:02,960
I know we talked it up in the top as well,
but I don't know.
998
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,295
It's just so, so much has happened.
999
00:46:05,295 --> 00:46:07,531
We have another guest post
that's going to be joining us,
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this coming year in 2026,
which we'll go into when we get there.
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But we were talking
about some of these different things.
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And, you know, user
friendly was first on the air in 2013.
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It was like version 1.0.
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We're just user friendly.
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We started
we've talked about this a little bit.
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We we started in a mall at a, in Reno,
you know, and it was crazy.
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It was crazy.
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But we got our feet wet, you know,
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and during that time, we've had some years
where we've produced
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every week on 1.0, it's
some years that we just did a podcast.
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Now, the 2.0 version, since we moved over
to, Salem Media
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has been pretty much weekly.
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It's been an amazing thing.
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It's been a lot of fun.
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00:46:47,104 --> 00:46:49,773
There's been a lot of things
to the journey.
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I would tell you, you know,
we started that before Covid.
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So we were in studio
at the time we started, you know,
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doing this in that revision.
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And then Covid happened.
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So all that close down.
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00:47:00,384 --> 00:47:04,254
So we all got our home
studios and Covid ended and we all decided
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00:47:04,254 --> 00:47:07,991
what's what's you're not going to drive
45 minutes each way, you know, to record.
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Not necessary.
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And you like your ability to participate
is because of the way
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00:47:12,663 --> 00:47:14,765
the technology has changed
because you're not
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00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:18,202
local, you know, and it's wonderful
that that's something that you can do.
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00:47:19,369 --> 00:47:19,770
Yeah.
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It is.
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00:47:20,871 --> 00:47:23,540
Oh, the other thing
that's been really cool about the change
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in technology too, is the fact
that we used to be limited on.
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00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:28,712
Yes, we've got some amazing guests,
you know, that
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00:47:28,712 --> 00:47:31,815
come on the show, but we were limited
to who could come into the studio,
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which meant or like, you know,
there's a a lot of people available here.
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But then they too came in
with some of the new technology.
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00:47:38,488 --> 00:47:41,592
We're able to talk to people
all over the world and do.
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And it's just just amazing. So, you know,
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so as far as all of that goes,
it's been an amazing year.
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We're looking forward to another one.
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00:47:52,469 --> 00:47:55,272
And for the last time,
I'm going to be able to do this.
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I invite everybody
to participate in the Season of Giving.
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This year, we've been proud
to support the William Temple House
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or a user friendly show,
or William temple.org.
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See what they're doing.
They are raising money.
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00:48:05,949 --> 00:48:07,751
They help provide
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00:48:07,751 --> 00:48:11,555
free or low cost mental health services
to people that you did in Portland,
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and also operate, which this year has
become extremely important, a food bank.
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00:48:16,793 --> 00:48:18,328
They also have a really cool thrift store.
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00:48:18,328 --> 00:48:20,931
I found out too, that,
or some of the other things
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00:48:20,931 --> 00:48:22,399
I do with retro electronics.
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00:48:22,399 --> 00:48:24,101
Oh boy, is that worth visiting.
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00:48:24,101 --> 00:48:25,936
Not that they have no retro electronics.
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00:48:25,936 --> 00:48:28,572
If you're into that, go somewhere else,
but everything else is great to go there.
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00:48:31,174 --> 00:48:31,808
It's too late.
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00:48:31,808 --> 00:48:32,910
They already got it.
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00:48:32,910 --> 00:48:33,577
All right. Yes.
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00:48:33,577 --> 00:48:35,178
The cat's out of the bag on that one.
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00:48:35,178 --> 00:48:40,117
So anyway, to everybody, merry,
you'll merry Christmas.
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Happy new year, happy Hanukkah and happy
whatever it is you do this time of year,
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we will see you in 2026.
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