WEBVTT

00:00:01.820 --> 00:00:13.990

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Tired of feeling tired and low, level pain that plagues your knees and hips. Listen close, as our guest today will share with us her 3 secrets to pain-free living.

00:00:14.230 --> 00:00:38.940

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Hi, and welcome to the you. World order, showcase podcast where we feature life, health and transformational coaches as well as spiritual entrepreneurs stepping up to be the change they seek in the world. I'm your host, Jill Hart, the coaches alchemist on a mission to help coaches and entrepreneurs amplify their voice, monetize their mission and get visible leveraging podcasts and the huge audience we have over on the Gnostic TV network.

00:00:38.940 --> 00:01:04.199

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Today we are chatting with Ellen Livingston. Ellen is a natural health, wellness mentor, and she helps people become pain-free while rediscovering their natural, high energy, healthy body, and peaceful heart, and she is also the author of the ultimate raw food diet and detox wellness program, as well as the book following nature home. Welcome to the show, Ellen. I am looking forward to this conversation

00:01:04.730 --> 00:01:06.369

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Thanks, Jill, me, too.

00:01:07.100 --> 00:01:10.450

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Okay, so are you ready for the big question? Just, okay.

00:01:10.750 --> 00:01:19.389

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: okay, what's the most significant thing in your opinion, as individuals, we can do to make an impact on how the world is going

00:01:20.690 --> 00:01:30.470

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So you just mentioned this a minute ago. So I this is my just sort of off the cuff response. That our that outer piece

00:01:31.100 --> 00:01:32.609

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: starts with inner peace.

00:01:32.740 --> 00:01:42.939

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So the most important thing we can do to make an impact in the outer world around us is to take responsibility for the vibration, the vibrational quality that we're putting out

00:01:43.260 --> 00:01:48.589

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: right. And so it's really doing the work, the inner work for ourselves.

00:01:49.100 --> 00:01:52.180

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: It will have magnanimous effects outward

00:01:52.650 --> 00:01:55.529

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And so do you think that diet plays a big part in this

00:01:56.310 --> 00:02:03.420

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: It certainly can. It has for me and for many people I've worked with, because if you think about it.

00:02:03.760 --> 00:02:07.130

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: there's a vibrational quality to the food that we eat.

00:02:07.370 --> 00:02:16.900

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and it's either a very low vibration food, like, you know, a Mcdonald's Hamburger, or a very high vibration food like a fresh mango off the tree.

00:02:17.460 --> 00:02:21.030

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and that matters in our bodies. So yes.

00:02:21.030 --> 00:02:28.550

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It does matter, and you can take all the supplements you want. But really the best way to get nutrition is

00:02:29.300 --> 00:02:32.590

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: by eating. Yes, they're designed that way.

00:02:32.590 --> 00:02:35.470

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You can't really make up for it with just supplements

00:02:35.810 --> 00:02:50.179

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You can't. And you can actually end up poisoning yourself, because sometimes you're taking supplements that really need other things in order to make those supplements effective, and not poisoning yourself like

00:02:52.100 --> 00:03:19.639

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Well, I kind of this way like if we, if we trust Mother Nature and I really focus on that with my clients getting them deeper into nature. When we begin to really trust Mother Nature, it makes sense that the food that she's provided for us is already in a kind of perfect synergistic relationship with the nutrients, with each other. And when we separate out those nutrients in pharmaceutical supplements.

00:03:19.860 --> 00:03:24.719

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: we don't really know what we're doing. It's kind of a a game that we're playing.

00:03:25.320 --> 00:03:31.010

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: because they were meant to work synergistically in the package that nature provided them in right

00:03:31.740 --> 00:03:45.350

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And then we start adding other interventions into our systems. And then everything starts getting out of whack, and your body is a self regulating organism, and it it tries to make up for

00:03:46.100 --> 00:03:54.710

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you could add too much zinc to your diet. We need zinc zinc is really helpful if you're sick, but taking zinc every day, is going to have

00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:02.149

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: other other ramifications, especially if you're getting it in your diet. It's kind of well

00:04:02.150 --> 00:04:17.660

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Well, I'm glad you pointed that out, because I you know the crux of the work I do for myself and and the people I work with is to get out of our own way and to reconnect with the natural way that's always trying to work us toward perfect health. I mean. We're

00:04:17.870 --> 00:04:33.789

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: we're born and designed to grow and thrive and to be like you said self healing and self regulating, and our body likes to be in a kind of homeostasis, and we just get in its way. We're constantly challenging it. And with food. If we're not eating

00:04:33.890 --> 00:05:00.760

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: the food that we're designed to eat biologically. Then we're challenging it multiple times a day. And it's all it can do is just try to keep up with cleaning house after each one of those difficult to digest and process and utilize meals I used to liken it to when I 1st became a single mom many years ago, and I had 3 little kids, and it was like it was all I could do just to keep up with all the daily stuff of taking care of the kids never does a mother

00:05:00.950 --> 00:05:19.269

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: or a single mother of little kids have a chance to like deep, clean a closet. Right? You're just keeping up with the moment by moment, and that's what we do to our body. It doesn't get to cleanse at the level it's fully capable of when we're constantly bombarding it with another difficult, inappropriate substance or thought, for that matter.

00:05:20.500 --> 00:05:25.440

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And they all work together, your thoughts and your your

00:05:25.570 --> 00:05:31.149

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: what you take in, what you're listening to, and what you're

00:05:31.510 --> 00:05:41.469

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: even what you're putting on your body in in terms of clothing. It really does make a difference, because even your the fibers of your clothing have a vibration

00:05:41.950 --> 00:05:47.160

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: that affects your vibration. If you're wearing things that make you feel bad.

00:05:47.790 --> 00:05:51.114

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: take them off preferably in your own room.

00:05:51.530 --> 00:05:56.950

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: The good news that I discovered along the way is that we have an essence

00:05:57.150 --> 00:06:17.970

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that's unchanging, and that no matter what we've done to ourselves along the way, in the messy path of life that still remains for us to get back in touch with. It hasn't gone anywhere. It's still there waiting for us to, you know. Just remove the shackles and all the obstacles, and clean up our diet and clean up our thoughts, and one of the most powerful

00:06:18.640 --> 00:06:44.239

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: fast track paths to that ability, and that awareness is to get out in nature, to go barefoot, to get natural sunshine on our bodies, to get into peaceful nature. Big nature, I call it, you know, to I. You know I try to do that every day. I'm very fortunate where I live right now in southern Florida to have a little dirt road that I live on, and I walk one block, and I'm in a park with miles of trails along the bay.

00:06:44.400 --> 00:07:05.019

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and so I walk through there barefoot every day, and it's just, you know, and then, if I have some frustration, come up during the day, and I'm feeling myself getting disconnected. I hop on my bike and go down and watch the sunset in the evening on the water, and it doesn't have to be that. But whatever's near you, whatever nature you can begin to have as your go to kind of reconnection space because it

00:07:05.130 --> 00:07:23.650

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I don't know. There's something about the big sky, the stars at night, the forest. We all know this instinctually that we're in that spot, you know. Some of our cares drop away, or we get a fresh sense of a bigger perspective on our life. And if we do that enough.

00:07:23.810 --> 00:07:27.230

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I can't stress this enough.

00:07:27.460 --> 00:07:32.380

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: If we do that on a regular basis, we start to catch these glimpses

00:07:32.490 --> 00:07:35.339

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: of this more connected way of being.

00:07:35.460 --> 00:07:39.530

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: That's not about all the things on our to do list

00:07:39.910 --> 00:07:55.329

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that it literally sort of awakens our senses to something more real. You know our world is so full of unreality right now, it seems, you know, it's so topsy, turvy, and unpredictable, and sort of seemingly insane at times.

00:07:55.680 --> 00:07:57.030

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and so

00:07:57.200 --> 00:08:17.959

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: nature continues to be sane and real in a place that we can return to in a way to connect with that possibly hidden self that is really once we connect with that essence, then we sort of know, we just sort of have this primal knowing about what food is real and what food isn't real.

00:08:18.140 --> 00:08:24.629

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And we start to tap into that feeling of a greater, more grounded, peaceful heart.

00:08:24.830 --> 00:08:30.509

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Slowly but surely we start to get more glimpses of that. And when we begin to glimpse it, we want it

00:08:30.610 --> 00:08:38.739

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: right. It's like when you start a yoga practice, and in the beginning it's hard to show up on the map, but once you've done it a few times you start to want to be there

00:08:39.820 --> 00:08:43.480

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: because it starts to feel so sort of

00:08:43.770 --> 00:08:52.570

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: yummy to be connecting with that best friend, inner guidance self

00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:58.320

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that that we have. We're we're connecting with, you know, the greater wisdom. And

00:08:58.670 --> 00:09:21.199

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that's how we get resilient. That's how we get grounded. That's how we start to glimpse little bits of clear messages about what we need. We tend to go seek external advice. All the time we go to a doctor we go to a healer. We go to an herbalist. We go to a dietician, and that's good, because maybe we need some guidance there. But at some point.

00:09:22.280 --> 00:09:25.589

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: inevitably we have to tap into our own inner

00:09:26.010 --> 00:09:31.010

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: guidance system. That will tell us what it is that we need to do. I mean, I had the

00:09:31.110 --> 00:09:41.600

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: unfortunate but blessed experience, in a way, because it made me who I am today, of having a bunch of health problems show up when I was younger that nobody could figure out.

00:09:42.650 --> 00:09:44.870

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and so I couldn't get answers out there.

00:09:45.190 --> 00:09:52.380

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And so and finally I went to a doctor for a digestive ailment, and he said, It has nothing to do with what you're eating.

00:09:52.740 --> 00:09:57.540

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and that just didn't make sense at all. And so in that moment I said.

00:09:57.840 --> 00:10:00.319

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I'm going to go do my own research.

00:10:00.670 --> 00:10:10.689

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And so I began through the books and the and the workshops and things, and ultimately it led me to just listening to myself, and in order to do that we have to get quieter.

00:10:10.990 --> 00:10:14.760

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and until we get quieter there's so much noise out there.

00:10:14.910 --> 00:10:28.349

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: We're like ping pong balls, you know, looking for the next advice from somebody outside of ourselves. And it's frustrating, because you know, how many times have you gotten advice from somebody that you really felt was spot on. Usually it's not quite right.

00:10:28.880 --> 00:10:37.589

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and we get frustrated or irritated with all the advice, because we know it's not spot on. Well, how do we find the spot on advice we have to go within.

00:10:37.820 --> 00:10:53.019

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So my journey has been about deeper and deeper, you know, going within and beginning to trust my own resourcefulness inside of me, and my own ability to tap into the wisdom that I need.

00:10:53.210 --> 00:10:58.039

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You know to. It's not about figuring out what I gotta do so much as just listening for it.

00:10:58.590 --> 00:11:10.760

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: like we know that we haven't rested enough, and that we ought to just get more rest, or we know that we ought to get more movement or eat better foods. We know these things. We don't really need to go to a doctor to hear that.

00:11:11.280 --> 00:11:15.519

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And and you know, I mean, usually that alone is the.

00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:26.359

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: It's like a 1st things. 1st approach. Most of us don't go there until later. We try to find a medicine or a supplement, or this or that.

00:11:26.950 --> 00:11:33.699

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and it's only much later, if ever, that we actually go to the source of where the healing really comes from

00:11:33.700 --> 00:11:39.300

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Comes down to taking personal responsibility for yourself, and you know.

00:11:39.920 --> 00:11:49.929

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: and for your healing. And yeah, go to the doctor. If you're got something critically wrong with you. But if it's just something that's chronically wrong with you.

00:11:50.070 --> 00:12:09.979

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: you probably need to look at your lifestyle and and start to ask yourself. Where can I make changes? And they don't have to be like? You don't have to change your whole life overnight. It never happens that way. It's slow incremental things that you can do. You talked about showing up on the yoga mat. Yeah, you can show up on the yoga mat

00:12:10.140 --> 00:12:18.220

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: every day, even if it's for 3 min you can meditate, even if it's for just a minute in the beginning, because it's hard

00:12:18.420 --> 00:12:19.220

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to

00:12:19.430 --> 00:12:30.039

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: to learn how to meditate effectively. But when you do it eventually an hour will go by and you're going to feel like it was, you know, 3 min.

00:12:31.040 --> 00:12:35.839

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: It just happens that way. You learn how to get into those states

00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:50.050

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I do my best to help people get really inspired about that approach, because we tend to think it sounds hard like you said, and it sounds like responsibility, and it sounds like I don't know how to do it, but in my own gentle, compassionate way I help people

00:12:50.190 --> 00:13:06.279

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: find a real inspiration in taking care of ourselves that way, because it starts to feel really beautiful, and some of the stress of the health seeking search kind of starts to fall away. And it's like, let me just surrender into what's more.

00:13:06.390 --> 00:13:17.590

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: what feels better, what's more natural? What does my body really want? Because we can go and take drugs, and sometimes they might be helpful. But more often than not, you know, they have. They all have side effects, and they're not really

00:13:18.330 --> 00:13:21.919

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: taking us to a sustainable.

00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:29.759

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: real cure. Right? And that's what we ultimately really want is a sustainable path that's healthy every day

00:13:30.020 --> 00:13:33.646

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and easy. And it becomes, you learn

00:13:34.280 --> 00:13:38.859

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love that your diet is mainly raw, which is

00:13:39.240 --> 00:13:51.279

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: easy, because you don't have to cook by definition and a lot of fruit, and we've heard so much about. You know the getting away from Carbs thing.

00:13:52.200 --> 00:14:03.160

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And I know so many vegetarians that are so unhealthy because they think that, you know, cookies and potato chips, while they may be vegetarian, are not healthy options.

00:14:03.280 --> 00:14:10.210

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: but the idea of, you know, embracing eating fruit, fruit, tastes, good

00:14:10.620 --> 00:14:18.870

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: fruit is very natural. A lot of times you can find fruit from your neighbor's yard, or even your own yard. If you have fruit trees.

00:14:19.070 --> 00:14:19.770

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: My average

00:14:19.770 --> 00:14:25.819

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: In fact, can you think, can you? Can you think of any other food on the entire planet

00:14:26.630 --> 00:14:31.599

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that comes in a package naturally that already

00:14:32.620 --> 00:14:45.979

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: looks beautiful, smells yummy tastes delicious, is very satisfying and satiating, because it has the natural sugars that we need, because our trillions of cells actually want glucose, and it's a simple carb.

00:14:46.280 --> 00:14:52.980

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So it gives us the carbohydrates in the form that we're meant to take them in versus the complex carbohydrates, like

00:14:53.120 --> 00:14:55.459

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: starches like the grains and

00:14:56.080 --> 00:15:00.149

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: The root veggies and stuff. So the fruit is really the superfood.

00:15:00.350 --> 00:15:19.709

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And so I do base my dietary, intake around fruit as the center of it in terms of so if the sun is out, I'm eating fruit right during the day. So I'm eating fruit when I get hungry in the morning fruit again in the middle of the day, fruit again later in the day, and then I'll usually make a some kind of salad meal that might have some

00:15:19.750 --> 00:15:32.429

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: some kind of greens like Romaine lettuce and some cucumbers, and you know I might put some fruit on there like some blackberries I have tonight I might make a I'll often make a dressing

00:15:32.600 --> 00:15:37.100

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: which might be also fruit based, or it might not. It might be like tahini and lemon juice.

100

00:15:37.420 --> 00:15:45.039

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: As a dressing. I might have a little bit of other nuts or seeds, but it's a very high carbohydrate, but

101

00:15:45.170 --> 00:15:52.670

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that kind of carbohydrate and a low or appropriate amount of fat, which is really much lower than most people

102

00:15:52.810 --> 00:16:04.409

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: believe, because the fats are much harder to digest, and they will slow us down. And so when you gradually move yourself toward a more fruit centric, lower fat.

103

00:16:04.880 --> 00:16:18.110

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: kind of a diet, it releases tremendous amounts of energy for other things, because think about it. I mean conducting emotions and digesting food are 2 of the biggest energy suckers that we have in our life.

104

00:16:18.220 --> 00:16:20.729

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So if we can learn to.

105

00:16:21.456 --> 00:16:28.419

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know, deal with our emotions appropriately, and, you know, get the drama out and get more grounded

106

00:16:28.720 --> 00:16:33.500

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and eat food that doesn't tax our system so much.

107

00:16:34.220 --> 00:16:38.859

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Can you imagine how much nervous system energy is now available for

108

00:16:39.570 --> 00:16:56.689

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: dreaming, being creating, moving, doing things, living? You know, we don't feel so bogged down anymore. So that's part of the pain-free secret is to 1st of all get an understanding of where pain originates from.

109

00:16:57.350 --> 00:16:59.789

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: because most of it's coming from the mind.

110

00:16:59.930 --> 00:17:10.279

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Even the physical body pains that we have are originating. The mind is telling us to feel pain there and then we focus on it, and then we get more tightened up and painful right?

111

00:17:10.530 --> 00:17:35.560

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And then we worry about it, and then we're afraid about it. And the whole thing cascades into like a snowball. And so to understand our role in creating the pain, and where that pain comes from, and then to reconnect with nature that pillar of nature that helps us understand how we're meant to live, and helps us ground ourselves there and then to deal with the

112

00:17:35.790 --> 00:17:45.060

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: the mind, you know, to to deal with the quality of our thoughts and beliefs, and make sure that we are clear on what our true values are.

113

00:17:45.280 --> 00:17:50.110

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and to be really, radically honest with ourselves, because

114

00:17:50.500 --> 00:17:58.027

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I mean, I I have claimed this for myself. I've been such a people pleaser all my life. It's been a really

115

00:17:58.840 --> 00:18:01.769

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: a big, transformative thing to realize that

116

00:18:01.940 --> 00:18:15.149

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: because I will, I would twist myself in knots trying to be a good person and do the right thing for somebody else, and not really be honest with what I really wanted, how I really felt

117

00:18:15.330 --> 00:18:22.890

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: a lot of chronic pain which I've dealt with can come from suppressing what we're really feeling.

118

00:18:23.300 --> 00:18:27.629

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: not being in touch with what we're really actually feeling.

119

00:18:27.820 --> 00:18:35.330

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So I was. I was taught by a mentor to ask myself, when I have pain in my body. What am I not letting myself feel

120

00:18:35.510 --> 00:18:36.390

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: right now?

121

00:18:36.840 --> 00:18:42.239

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You know. In what way am I? Just, you know, soldiering on

122

00:18:42.690 --> 00:18:54.299

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: without paying, without tuning in. So we get really out of alignment, out of attunement. And it's way more powerful than any drug or therapy or medicinal anything to just.

123

00:18:54.510 --> 00:19:09.880

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know, work our way back into a better attunement and a better alignment with ourself and with how we're designed to live. And I know we have to live in the modern world. I don't like to call it the real world, because to me it doesn't actually feel like the real world. But

124

00:19:10.050 --> 00:19:10.710

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The world.

125

00:19:10.710 --> 00:19:27.810

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: The modern world is very demanding, and it is hard to be a human under these circumstances, and so we can just acknowledge that, and then do the best we can to find ways in our life, and, like you said, you don't necessarily have to leave your job or your marriage, or where you live, or any of that, you can find it right where you are.

126

00:19:28.090 --> 00:19:31.359

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You just start somewhere and start reconnecting

127

00:19:31.610 --> 00:19:37.250

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: with these natural sort of essential and eternal truths

128

00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:41.730

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: about who we are and how we're designed to live

129

00:19:43.050 --> 00:19:45.350

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Have a practice that

130

00:19:45.900 --> 00:19:58.410

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: it's coming up soon. In the summer I have raspberries, and I have a lot of raspberries which is in my backyard, and my dog, who is a forager. He and I will go out

131

00:19:58.540 --> 00:20:02.750

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: in the afternoon every day in our bare feet.

132

00:20:03.380 --> 00:20:11.037

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: He's always got bare feet. We will pick raspberries off the bush, and there will be more tomorrow

133

00:20:11.800 --> 00:20:15.610

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You know what you bring up. Every animal.

134

00:20:16.320 --> 00:20:34.230

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: every species besides us is barefoot all the time, and they're in contact with a natural surface at all times, you know whether it's their feet on a tree branch or on the ground, or in the water, right? They're always connected to the sort of magnetic forces of the earth and the sky and the sun, and

135

00:20:34.360 --> 00:20:42.839

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: one of the I read a book once that said, I think it was the book called Earthing. It said the single worst thing we ever did for our health was to invent rubber bottom shoes

136

00:20:43.190 --> 00:20:46.670

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that disconnected us, and then we've been taught to be afraid of the sun.

137

00:20:47.010 --> 00:21:04.210

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know, and then we, I'm afraid of the elements. And so we're in these boxes that are perfectly climatized with air conditioning and heat and whatever. And we hesitate to go outside. And we just get really like we're electrical beings, and we get electrically disconnected. It's very profound

138

00:21:04.210 --> 00:21:11.199

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Programmed in some ways, because we have electrical wiring all around us. And we have Emf running through.

139

00:21:11.770 --> 00:21:12.340

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

140

00:21:12.340 --> 00:21:18.059

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: yeah, it just really disrupts us. We need to close our phones when I walk in the morning, and I have

141

00:21:18.340 --> 00:21:23.359

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: firm boundaries around an hour every morning I walk with my husband and my dog.

142

00:21:23.580 --> 00:21:25.190

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: We leave our phones at home

143

00:21:25.600 --> 00:21:26.060

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Good.

144

00:21:26.060 --> 00:21:29.860

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: The world can get rid of. They don't need to get a hold of us

145

00:21:29.860 --> 00:21:47.139

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: That long ago that we didn't have phones on our bodies. I mean, I, you and I grew up in a time, and we still had the phone stuck to the wall. And you when you went out there was no phone with you ever, and people could wait. But and the other thing that all the other species do is they eat one food at a time.

146

00:21:47.610 --> 00:21:48.180

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

147

00:21:48.180 --> 00:21:51.250

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: They only eat of their biological design unless they're

148

00:21:51.570 --> 00:21:55.930

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: grounding in our dumpsters, or something right if they've been displaced. But in the wild

149

00:21:56.120 --> 00:22:03.239

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: they only eat what they're biologically designed to eat, and they're blueprinted to know that just like we are. If we get back in touch, we know that fruit

150

00:22:03.770 --> 00:22:15.709

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: sounds great, and they don't make recipes like we do. You know, that's just a creative, emotional need. We don't actually, biologically need to make recipes with our food. We don't need 10 different things on our plate.

151

00:22:16.130 --> 00:22:18.570

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: We can. We can make our meals very, very

152

00:22:18.570 --> 00:22:20.269

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Assigned to sell stuff

153

00:22:20.530 --> 00:22:32.090

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: We get the variety over time rather than right on one plate, and so I do really well on the Mono meals. So I do make a salad often, which has 3 or 4 ingredients, but

154

00:22:32.300 --> 00:22:34.759

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: my morning meal is just one type of fruit.

155

00:22:35.140 --> 00:22:44.069

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know. My middle of the day meal is one type of fruit. Unless I put 2 fruits in a smoothie that's about as exotic as it gets, because the simpler.

156

00:22:44.580 --> 00:23:09.019

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: the less ingredients, the simpler it is to digest the more energy available for other things. And the 1st thing you're very intelligent, infinitely wise body will do is use that freed up energy to heal itself. That's the 1st thing it'll do. And so you may feel tired at first, st because the body has a lot of healing to do. It's trying to detox. Get rid of a lot of toxins that have built up.

157

00:23:09.250 --> 00:23:17.830

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: It might be eating up a tumor somewhere. You don't know what it's doing, but it's very wise, and it's always working in your best interest always.

158

00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:41.240

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: even if it's throwing out symptoms like you get a rash on your skin or something, instead of covering that up with a drug. If we will just trust that our body's working in our favor and cleaning house, then we can relax and let the symptoms come, and just, you know, rest and support it, and then it'll be out, and we'll be that much better versus suppressing it with a medication or a lotion.

159

00:23:41.420 --> 00:23:49.870

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: because then it's like you're going against what the body was trying to do, and it will find another avenue which might be more uncomfortable. So

160

00:23:50.070 --> 00:23:50.910

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know, part of

161

00:23:50.910 --> 00:23:51.440

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That's

162

00:23:51.440 --> 00:24:13.109

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Living with less pain. And I have to qualify the pain-free idea, because what I really mean is that we learn to live in a peaceful relationship with the inevitable pains of life. You know nobody has a completely pain-free existence. There is physical pain, there is emotional pain, but we learn to

163

00:24:15.250 --> 00:24:29.589

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: We learn to live with it in a peaceful way, right? And when we do that, and we also learn to live more naturally, it most of it goes away. So that's the beautiful result. And when it is there we don't get upset about it. We just

164

00:24:29.820 --> 00:24:40.860

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: work with it, you know. So what do I need now? You know, what is this pain in my body telling me what message is trying to get through to me? Can I be still and listen

165

00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:49.100

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and work with it. And then it's not a war zone going on. We're not angry with the body for expressing a symptom.

166

00:24:49.350 --> 00:24:51.120

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: We're thankful that it's

167

00:24:51.780 --> 00:24:57.979

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: waking us up to give us a message that we need to hear. That's a very different relationship with the body, right?

168

00:24:59.470 --> 00:25:02.610

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: It's more harmonious. It's like it's our best friend

169

00:25:02.930 --> 00:25:05.700

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Do you have a a book or a

170

00:25:06.360 --> 00:25:10.420

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: guide? The 3 secrets to pain free living? We'll talk a little bit about that.

171

00:25:10.420 --> 00:25:20.786

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Yeah, that that is actually just a free guide that you can pick up by going to my website and signing up for my newsletter. The other way. You can.

172

00:25:22.010 --> 00:25:30.369

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know, get connected with me is through my blog on substack I've I started it in order to help me write this book.

173

00:25:30.580 --> 00:25:37.390

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: So the very 1st few blogs are actually chapters in this book ultimately, which is called Following Nature home.

174

00:25:37.620 --> 00:25:54.169

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And and then that got me back into a practice of publishing something weekly. And so I just kept going. And now, 2 and a half years later, I've been posting every week, so that whole all of that writing is archived there, and you can just enjoy picking through it for free

175

00:25:54.679 --> 00:25:59.920

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: you know I have a free or paid subscribership, so you can connect with me there

176

00:26:00.530 --> 00:26:02.202

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I love substack

177

00:26:02.760 --> 00:26:20.329

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Yeah, it's been really fun. It's a beautiful way, because it doesn't have the sort of hyper viral kind of pressure of like the other social media like Facebook and Instagram. It's just a place for really high quality creativity to be happening and sharing with other creatives

178

00:26:21.020 --> 00:26:35.090

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And and it allows you as a creator to share your content with people that are interested in it. So it goes right to their email box. If somebody subscribes to your content. When you create new content, it shows up and they know it's

179

00:26:35.360 --> 00:26:36.430

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: from you. And

180

00:26:36.430 --> 00:26:42.362

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Mine comes out every Sunday morning at 9, and there are people who, you know, who look for it Sunday mornings at 9

181

00:26:43.558 --> 00:26:55.680

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: and there it is in their inbox. They don't have to go looking for it. And so that's been a nice way to build a relationship through substack. It's also not. It's very. It encourages longer form, content.

182

00:26:57.130 --> 00:26:57.870

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Like a robot.

183

00:26:58.330 --> 00:27:00.840

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Meaningful article rather than a little sound bite

184

00:27:01.300 --> 00:27:01.900

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yeah.

185

00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:02.520

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Yeah.

186

00:27:03.155 --> 00:27:06.890

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: So how can people find you and

187

00:27:06.890 --> 00:27:07.390

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: The second.

188

00:27:07.390 --> 00:27:08.130

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: And on, your

189

00:27:08.130 --> 00:27:33.950

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Substack is Ellen. I think it's just Ellen livingston.substack.com, or you can go to my website, Ellen livingston.com. And there's also a blog tab there that you can go to substack. And my, the 2 books I've written, and a few other Cds and things I've made. Dvds are at my website. And these are the 2 books. My 1st book I wrote maybe 15 years ago, was really a more like a handbook

190

00:27:34.260 --> 00:27:46.570

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: for my students at the time to understand, you know, kind of like what this dietary path is about, and why you would want to do it, and everything you'd need to know in less than a hundred pages

191

00:27:46.740 --> 00:27:51.749

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that's important to know, to be able to just sort of get started and think about it. And then

192

00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:52.930

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Raw food, diet.

193

00:27:53.180 --> 00:28:07.370

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: The raw, raw vegan high fruit, and when I say fruitarian I'll just qualify. I don't mean only fruit. That's a i use that term fairly loosely. Some people are more strict about it, but it's a fruit centric diet, so it's my calories are mostly coming from fruit, but I do eat

194

00:28:07.660 --> 00:28:23.659

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: like I said, greens and some vegetables, nuts, and seeds. So that's this book. The second one I wrote when I had turned, was turning 60, and I was sort of crossing the 20. I had crossed the 20 year mark on this path, and I had this thought that that was like a big

195

00:28:24.260 --> 00:28:29.500

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Aha! Moment like these big passages were happening in my life. And so I decided to

196

00:28:29.630 --> 00:28:47.540

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: write about it. So it's a collection of essays that goes more deeply into my emotional and spiritual journey on this path for other people to just sort of get an insight into where it took me, and what a beautiful path. It continues to be so. I will not turn back. There's no

197

00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:55.169

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: no reason to. Not once you've seen you can't unsee. Once you felt you can't unknow that so

198

00:28:55.620 --> 00:29:00.279

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: I feel like it's a a box. We're all we all come in this box. We're

199

00:29:00.430 --> 00:29:08.964

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: balls of light, and once that light, that box opens up, the light escapes, and you can never put light back in the box

200

00:29:09.560 --> 00:29:15.680

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You shared with me before we came. Live that your middle name is Ellen, and that Ellen means bright light

201

00:29:15.680 --> 00:29:16.250

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: Yep.

202

00:29:16.250 --> 00:29:33.380

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I've known that it meant light and but we are all bright light beings, and we forget that. You know we get obscured in the darkness. But when we get back in touch with that light, it just, you know, even if you just start to understand that you're headed in a good direction.

203

00:29:33.610 --> 00:29:49.859

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: You start to feel lighter and happier. You know it's an illusion that we're all confused. I think we use that as an excuse that we're so confused we can't move forward, but there's no need to be so confused. You can take back the power to find your clarity and start moving

204

00:29:50.120 --> 00:29:53.109

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: in that direction, and you'll feel better. Just

205

00:29:53.230 --> 00:29:55.970

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: that. You know that you're on the right track.

206

00:29:56.410 --> 00:29:58.449

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You don't have have to control everything.

207

00:29:58.770 --> 00:30:05.279

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: No, and you don't have to get particular timing. You just start moving in a better direction, making healthier choices, getting

208

00:30:05.860 --> 00:30:35.449

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: That kind of support on your path and going into some more stillness. And I I do support people through one-on-one mentoring, and this is the kind of work we do. I'm really just there as a mentor to help people gain the confidence, to revisit and reconnect with their own inner guidance system and spend more time there, and people are scared of going there alone. So I just kind of hold their hand a little bit and walk them into their own knowing, and then they start to blossom

209

00:30:35.450 --> 00:30:37.330

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: You have a community, too, don't you?

210

00:30:38.546 --> 00:30:57.580

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I've had many communities over my life. So I'm part of a raw food community. In fact, if you want some raw food community up in Michigan this summer I will be teaching at a raw retreat festival kind of thing in Gaylord, Michigan, August 10th to the 14, th and there's still a little bit of camping space left. I'll be camping.

211

00:30:57.600 --> 00:31:13.979

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And so those events are fantastic because we have a large raw food community that comes a large fruit based raw food community that comes together to celebrate with each other. And there's teachings and movement classes. And it's all raw fruit based food being served.

212

00:31:14.080 --> 00:31:25.729

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: And so it's a lot of fun, and I'll be there with a lot of other leaders in this movement this summer. So that would be one way to, you know, connect with real live in person community soon.

213

00:31:26.472 --> 00:31:33.450

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: I've also offered, you know, fruit lux. We call them raw food potlucks at my houses over the years for decades.

214

00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:41.579

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: That sounds like fun, too. Yeah, thank you so much for joining us today. This has been a great conversation

215

00:31:41.580 --> 00:31:43.870

Ellen Livingston’s iPhone: Thank you very much. It's been an honor

216

00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:56.359

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: To learn more about Ellen, and to get access to her free. 3 secrets to pain-free living. Visit Ellen livingston.com, and we'll be sure to put the links for all of her

217

00:31:56.360 --> 00:32:19.389

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: offerings in the show notes. Thank you for tuning in with us today. If you have a podcast or you're interested in starting one to get your message in front of our huge and active audience. Be sure to reach out to us at jill@gnostictv.com. We love to help spiritual entrepreneurs and coaches amplify their voice and monetize their mission and offer a variety of ways to do this on the Gnostic TV network platform

218

00:32:19.390 --> 00:32:29.840

Jill Hart-The Coach's Alchemist: join us for our next episode as we share what others are doing to raise the global frequency. And remember, change begins with you. You have all the power to change the world. Start today