Most coaches wait way too long before they hire their first team member and they get to see burnout and they get to see stress and they end up with a lot of symptoms that they could avoided if they just understood that hiring your first team member early is going to help you gain momentum way faster.
Speaker BSo today's episode, we are moving into your first hire, who to hire, what is the right time to hire and how do you hire that first person to take over so you can get out of the overwhelm, the burnout and get more time, more energy to do the things that really move the needle inside the coaching business.
Speaker AYeah, we talked about this before we started recording and you said some really, really great things.
Speaker ACan you please repeat what you said to me before about where is the problem for coaches when not hiring soon enough?
Speaker BBut when you start up in your business and as a solopreneur, but it kind of is in it, you are solo on the job.
Speaker BAnd the job, since it's a business, it have a lot of different parts to do.
Speaker BYou need to know to do marketing, you need to do the sales, you need to do the bookkeeping, you need to do the admin, you need to do the delivery, you need to make the trainings right.
Speaker BYou need to do all of those small things in between.
Speaker BAnd on top of that, a lot of coaches also have a lot of perfectionism in them, which means that all of the things they're doing touching needs to be great.
Speaker BLike, there's no way you can do all of that without getting to a place of burnout and overwhelm.
Speaker BAnd I believe at this stage, a lot of coaches are just thinking, you know what, it was so, so much easier to just get a job.
Speaker BIt's not even worth it for me to work this hard.
Speaker AAnd I love that.
Speaker AAnd it's because of the personality traits.
Speaker AI would say that we end up in that place like this isn't for me.
Speaker AAnd we end up in a place that feel that this isn't for me because of the different personality traits and the values that we in some way connect to.
Speaker AOh, it needs to be perfect.
Speaker AThis is how I work.
Speaker AThis is the way I am functioning.
Speaker ANo matter if it's perfectionism or, or if it's procrastination or if it's a pleasing mentality that everyone needs to love what I do.
Speaker AWhatever it is, we end up in a place believing that, oh, this isn't for me.
Speaker AIt would be much easier getting a job.
Speaker AI like that.
Speaker AAnd one thing that stood out or That I thought of now when you were saying that the thing that people are actually quite good at outsourcing fast is the financials.
Speaker ABecause that's what you should do according to professionals.
Speaker AAnd you should do that.
Speaker BBut I think that's interesting though, because if you understand that bookkeeping you should give out.
Speaker BI also believe that you are a decision making like what can I do myself and what can I do myself?
Speaker BRather than what should I do and what shouldn't I do do myself.
Speaker BWe absolutely do understand.
Speaker BWell, if I can't do bookkeeping, it's not a good idea for me to do bookkeeping.
Speaker BBut then I also get stuck with all the things I can do myself.
Speaker BI should do myself.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker AAnd I think that's a really great point because here's the real problem.
Speaker APeople believe they can't do bookkeeping.
Speaker AThey can.
Speaker AIt's pretty easy.
Speaker AYou can Google your way to figure that out pretty fast.
Speaker ABut I also think that there is a societal structure that helps you to understand that you should outsource it because it's going to be sent to the government.
Speaker AIt needs to be in the right way, it needs to look a certain way.
Speaker AAnd that is the reason why a lot of people outsource bookkeeping.
Speaker ABut it's not that it's hard.
Speaker AYou could do it yourself, but you're doing the absolute right thing to send it out.
Speaker ABut it's the same thing with all the monkey style tasks that you're going to do in your business, especially when you're up to speed.
Speaker AAnd you know that this is the, the way I'm going to execute in my business.
Speaker ASo I'm going to run this funnel.
Speaker ASo this is how I'm doing in my marketing, this is how I transition marketing into sales and this is how I make paying clients out of my sales calls.
Speaker AWhen we know that we can figure out a thousand different things that literally a five year old could do, those things are definitely not something that you should do.
Speaker AAnd if we could add the mentality of I'm not doing my bookkeeping myself, then I think we would do a lot better, feel a lot better, and also get a lot further in our business if we apply that kind of bookkeeping mentality.
Speaker ABecause I do believe if you're doing your own bookkeepings in your business right now, outsource it because you didn't become a coach to to handle your own books, does that mean you shouldn't know what's going on in your books?
Speaker AOf course you should.
Speaker AYou should have your bookkeeper tell you what's going on in your financials so that you could read your business, but you shouldn't execute on the details.
Speaker AThe same thing is for your first hire.
Speaker ASo if we open up the conversation slightly, what do you believe is the number one position that you should look for when you're making your first hire?
Speaker BBefore I get to that, can I just take one step back?
Speaker BBecause I believe that it's easy to say you should do your first hire.
Speaker BYou should do this.
Speaker BI believe the people who are actually listening to this right now, who's in the position where they know that burned out and overwhelmed, are also struck by a lot of fear and anxiety about that.
Speaker BFear of shit, I don't know how to pay that person.
Speaker BI'm not making enough money to pay that person.
Speaker BWhere should that money come from?
Speaker BI can't put myself in a position where I need to pay another person.
Speaker BI'm not even getting the salary I want right now.
Speaker BThe second thing I think that is happening to a person who is listening to this in this stage is also, I don't have time to hire another one.
Speaker BI mean, I already work 10 hours a day.
Speaker BIt is so much faster to.
Speaker BTo me to just do the damn job myself instead of needing to find someone else, train them, help them, teach them.
Speaker BI don't have time for that.
Speaker AFor a long time I had a hard time outsourcing and delegating, but I wasn't in this case, when I hired my first virtual assistant, it was the best decision that I ever made.
Speaker AI hired this person to make myself responsible, to make sure that there is work for this person to do when they show up.
Speaker AThey worked 10 hours a week, which was a lot.
Speaker AI suggest when we are talking to our clients, we have a very specific kind of task list and SOPs to give to their VA.
Speaker ABut when I suggest this to my clients today, it's about six hours a week to start out with.
Speaker BI think that's a good thing to understand from the beginning.
Speaker BYou don't need to have one full time.
Speaker BYou don't need to hire anyone to be an employee in the business.
Speaker BThey can come in as freelancers and just a few hours a week.
Speaker AI love that.
Speaker AThat, yeah, because we're hiring a virtual assistant.
Speaker ASo someone that can assist with a few different things and if they're doing a good job and if more opportunities open up for more work that you shouldn't do yourself, then you could have that person get more hours.
Speaker ASo I love that because I didn't even Think that that was a problem.
Speaker AI hired my first VA 10 hours a week before I got my first real client, and it ended up being 40 days before I really kicked off and started doing big events and stuff.
Speaker AAnd to be honest, it helped me so much structurally because I had someone to take care of, I had someone to pay salary to, and it helped me to step up and prioritize my business on a different level.
Speaker AAlso, it saved up a lot of time so that I could focus on all the different stuff that I had to do on my own the moment I hired her, that my business actually started.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I want to say that I wouldn't have gotten as far as I did as fast as I did if I didn't make that decision.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI think it's coming from a business of maturity you have, because you've been running businesses for a long time and you used to having employees.
Speaker BBut for the person who's just starting up, I think it's harder to make that decision and get into that because it's like an identity.
Speaker BBelieve that I will save time, I will save money, I'll put myself in a better position when I hire.
Speaker BI think that it takes a lot of maturity to actually take that decision.
Speaker AI love that you say that.
Speaker AAnd it's not because you're feeding my ego, even if you do.
Speaker ABut, like, here's the thing.
Speaker AI didn't recognize that business maturity.
Speaker AAnd like I also mentioned very, very fast.
Speaker AI've always had a hard time delegating stuff.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI've always been the one working at the worst time.
Speaker AFor months, I averaged 20 hours a day, seven days a week, and I literally.
Speaker AI slept at the office.
Speaker AAnd when we delivered our first program in my previous business, I was so behind and I had a lot of team members to delegate to, but I didn't have time to give away the work so that I get it done.
Speaker AI believe that.
Speaker ASure.
Speaker AI learned something from going through that period.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker AAnd that's why when I started this business, why I hired this person this fast.
Speaker ASo what are the things that I'm doing on a daily basis that consumes time?
Speaker ABut it's literally procedure.
Speaker AI'm doing the same thing every day, all the day, every time, week in, week out.
Speaker AAt the moment we have that list.
Speaker AThen we have the work schedule for VA that could do it for you.
Speaker AEven if we're working in Sweden.
Speaker AYou're Danish, I'm Swedish.
Speaker AAnd if you are a European coach that doesn't speak English, then you could still hire a VA that speaks English because a lot of the tasks doesn't need the preferences of language.
Speaker AYou don't need to know the language that you're speaking.
Speaker ASo if you're speaking Hungarian or Germany, whatever the tasks that we're talking about, English speaking, cheap VA could still do a lot of these things to save you time.
Speaker BThe reason why you start by saying that you should hire before you're ready is also that you're higher in a place where you are not in complete stress and overwhelm.
Speaker BBecause once you get to that point where you are so burned out from trying to do anything on your own, you're also making poor decisions because you are getting so stressed out with everything.
Speaker BSo it's better to do that higher before you get yourself to that place.
Speaker BAnd it will never feel ready.
Speaker BMost decisions you'll do in your business, I believe you're not going to feel ready for them when you need to do them, because once you feel ready, you're kind of late.
Speaker BBut first of all, if you take a look at this is exactly the reason why you won't and the reason why you will do the hire.
Speaker BThe reason you won't is because there's so many things to do.
Speaker BYou're spending 10 hours a day doing admin tasks that we're talking about right now, right?
Speaker BI don't know how much time you spent doing that, but I just want you to remember also those 10 hours a day or 10 hours a week you're spending doing these admin is also time taking away from spending sales during marketing, during delivery to your clients.
Speaker BLike literally things that you make money doing are postponed because you're doing admin stuff.
Speaker BAnd then as you said in the moment when you already overworked and everything is so busy, it feels like I can do it quicker myself.
Speaker BYeah, you can probably do it quicker yourself today.
Speaker BBut if you invest like 2 hours, 3 hours to onboard that person, that will mean that you will be able to save 10 hours a week.
Speaker BFrom week two, you already start seeing the results.
Speaker BSo you invest a little bit of time right now, extra time to get that one started, even though it feels like it's quicker for me to do it myself.
Speaker BBut if you do it yourself, you need to continue do it yourself.
Speaker AI really loved what you said invest three hours today to be able to get 10 hours a week back every week.
Speaker AYeah, I love that.
Speaker ABecause there is a statistic that isn't that funny or that encouraging.
Speaker ABut it's really important for all business owners to know 19 out of 20 problems that you have are going to solve themselves or disappear if you just leave them alone.
Speaker ABecause what's tied to every problem in your business is also when you solve them, there is an opportunity to gain from solving that problem.
Speaker AAnd because things are exchangeable and moving all the time, what it means is that if you don't solve a problem fast enough, the opportunity or the gain from solving that problem will disappear.
Speaker AAnd when the gain disappears, the problem also disappears.
Speaker ABecause then you don't need to solve it at all.
Speaker AIf you feel that you have a thousand things to solve, you literally only have 50 problems that you need to solve.
Speaker AAll of the other problems, it's you predicting that it will move your business forward.
Speaker AWhat it comes down to is that you can work with a 5% capacity and still keep your business as on the place where it's at.
Speaker AThen the next step is to figure out, okay, what moves the needle.
Speaker AIt's not the other 19 problems out of 20.
Speaker ASo the problems that are going to move your business forward is probably three problems that needs your focus right now.
Speaker AAnd you can pause that, invest three hours, like you said, one week to gain 10 hours back every week.
Speaker ASo yeah, how to navigate this and more importantly, execute.
Speaker AThis is like I said, write down a list of the stuff that you do on a day to day basis.
Speaker AAnd then when you have a week summarized, you can qualify the list by seeing if you are doing all of those things the next week or if there is any other thing that you would like to add to the list.
Speaker ABecause if you're very, very specific, if you are earning less than €20,000amonth, you need to be present on your social channels, you need to have an organic reach to the people that you want to influence, the people you can help and coach.
Speaker AIn order to do that, we need to take care of that social media channel and like posting content and warming up your algorithms and warming up your social media channel, making sure that you're using it the way it's meant to be used and fulfilling the purpose of the tool.
Speaker AAt that place alone, you could find six hours a week to just outsource to someone else, start conversations with people who interact with your content, warm up your socials, post your content and all of those things is something else that stands out to you.
Speaker BI would clarify first of all, what are the tasks I'm doing during a week?
Speaker BI write down every task I do during the week and then I look at it.
Speaker BIs this a task I need to do?
Speaker BBe the one who's doing or could someone else doing that and all the things you could have someone else doing if you just taught them how to do it.
Speaker BPut that on the list now then we can talk about.
Speaker BSo who is the first hire?
Speaker BWell, I would say the first hire is the va.
Speaker BAnd a va, it's a virtual assistant, meaning that virtual assistant can do a lot of the tasks that you have.
Speaker BBecause the task you want to give away first are tasks that will not be directly correlated with you closing deals because you, you should not give them away in the beginning.
Speaker BSo it's low hanging fruits, it's really admin stuff and it's things like commenting on other people's content, posting your content and stuff like that.
Speaker BNow when you start chat sequences, well it just for not making you confused here.
Speaker BA lot of you also understand the one who's normally chatting or doing chatting on your your behalf is what we call a setter appointment.
Speaker BSet setting appointments.
Speaker BBut at this early stage in the business you don't need to have a full appointment set up, but you can have a va.
Speaker BNot maybe during the complete chat sequences, but at least start them.
Speaker BBecause all chat starts the same way.
Speaker BAnd that means when everything is done the same way, we can give it away because you don't need to think a lot, you just need to do the same thing.
Speaker BA lot of copy paste work without copy pasting that is.
Speaker BSo now you have a list of all the things you don't need to do.
Speaker BYou can have someone else to do and you spent a few hours training that person.
Speaker BSo how do you train that person?
Speaker BFor me, like it's slow if I need to write everything down.
Speaker BAnd today with AI it's literally so easy.
Speaker BSo you can do two different things.
Speaker BStep number one, you could take and video record and speak into a microphone.
Speaker BEvery time you do those tasks, just like go around, do your thing on social media, have a loom or zoom or something else recording your screen and you just tell what you do and then you give the video to that VA and you tell that va.
Speaker BSo this is how I do it.
Speaker BCan you make this into a guideline or into a sop like standard operation procedure on how we do this thing.
Speaker BSo this becomes the training or you literally just take this video and you upload that to ChatGPT and you, you tell them that you are the operational manager for your business and right now you are going to upload a video on how to do a performance specific task.
Speaker BThis task is to be outsourced to a va.
Speaker BPlease write out a complete detailed SOP on how to do this task and ChatGPT would write out an SOP for you to use and you give that to the VA together with the video and just have them follow the SOP from the ChatGPT and match it up with the video.
Speaker BAm I doing it the right way?
Speaker BThis is the fastest way because you're still doing the same thing but while you're doing the same task as you would have done either way, you just also training that person.
Speaker BSo it's not even an extra work.
Speaker BThat is what Tony Robbins called net time.
Speaker BNo extra time spent.
Speaker AI love it.
Speaker ALet's wrap it up.
Speaker ASo last things.
Speaker AOne of the things that I believe coaches would benefit the most from is treating their business like a real business, taking care of it and seeing it as something that that is meant to grow.
Speaker AAnd if it's meant to grow, you shouldn't be alone doing that.
Speaker ASo if you identify with being a solopreneur, then be a solopreneur but do it with a perspective that allows you to hire someone that can help you.
Speaker ABecause we all need help and we can't it on our own.
Speaker AIt's just too important that we don't do that because we're never going to grow without help.
Speaker ASo if you've loved this episode, if you have any thoughts, leave them below us a comment and we'll make sure to that you get your answers.
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