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Speaker BYou are listening to the Horse Radio Network, part of the Equine Network family.
Speaker AThis is episode 153 of Wisdom by Wesa on the Horse Radio Network.
Speaker AThis is Jennifer Heber.
Speaker CI'm Morgan Nicole.
Speaker DAnd this is Sofia Yagela.
Speaker DWelcome to Wisdom by Wasa Sophia.
Speaker CWe are now just one month away from opening day.
Speaker CIs there anything buyers can still sign up for at this point?
Speaker DYes.
Speaker DSo first of all, they can still sign up for buyer badges if you still haven't.
Speaker DAnd along with the pre registration, if you're quick, you'll also get some food vouchers along as long as our supplies last.
Speaker DSo that's always helpful during the busy trade show days.
Speaker DAnd then the second thing that people can still sign up for is the benefit golf tournament which really is just a fun get together at TOPGOLF in Dallas with a buffet and drinks and actually also Montana silversmith buckles for our winning TOPGOLF teams.
Speaker DAnd I think the best part about all of this is that the proceeds go to National Little Bridges Rodeo association and specifically to their scholarship funding.
Speaker DSo this really is a great event to sign up for.
Speaker CHow fun.
Speaker CThat's definitely something we don't want to miss.
Speaker CWhere can they find the golf and the Westa registration?
Speaker DSo the buyer Registration is via westsidetradeshow.com and the player registration for the benefit golf tournament is also on our website.
Speaker DYou can just hover over August and then find the events tab and just sign up there.
Speaker CPhenomenal.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker AAnd it's now time to get to our guest.
Speaker AAnd our guest today is Yuki Kona and she is the visionary founder and designer behind Cultured Rider, a luxury western show apparel brand that combines bold craft, heavy design and urban elegance.
Speaker AAs a WESA exhibitor, she's built a networked business by embracing areas beyond her comfort zone to elevate the show apparel into a cultural statement.
Speaker AWelcome to the show, Yuki.
Speaker BHi.
Speaker BNice to meet you.
Speaker AI'm a fashion train wreck.
Speaker AI'm raising my hand right now, so I'm so excited to chat with you.
Speaker AI drove around your website this morning for a little bit to look at the fashions and I found at least three different things I need to buy just to go to.
Speaker AJust to go to Westa later on next month.
Speaker BSo excited that you're saying that.
Speaker BYeah, it's.
Speaker BIt's definitely been something out of my comfort zone.
Speaker BBelieve it or not, if you actually met me in real life, I am in sweatpants and T shirt and I don't always wear what I design.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I. I design it for other people.
Speaker BLet's just put it that way.
Speaker AWell, what I found so interesting, because I am not.
Speaker AI don't have good fashion confidence or fashion sense.
Speaker AWhat I saw on your website, number one, you use models who are real human beings.
Speaker BYay.
Speaker BThank you.
Speaker AAnd they're beautiful.
Speaker AThey're.
Speaker AThey're beautiful.
Speaker ABut you don't look at them and say, oh, that's out of Vogue magazine.
Speaker AThat's a real person that I can relate to.
Speaker AI'm guessing they're also equestrians.
Speaker BAbsolutely.
Speaker BActually, so one of my models is Kaylen Quinones.
Speaker BI know I butchered her name, but she was Miss Rodeo USA 2024.
Speaker BI actually met her at WESA.
Speaker BI saw her walking around with a crown on, and I was like, yeah, you need to come talk to me.
Speaker BSo we became friends, and now she, you know, models for me, and she's awesome.
Speaker BAnd Carly, who's the other model, is Ms. Salasar USA 2020.
Speaker BI'm going to say two.
Speaker BDon't quote me, but I mean, they're both brilliant equestrians, brilliant women.
Speaker BAnd I'm just so lucky I found them.
Speaker BAnd it's really part.
Speaker BI mean, I'm not gonna say partially, I'm gonna say a hundred percent, because I was at weta, so it's been.
Speaker BIt's been such a blessing.
Speaker ASo your.
Speaker AThe fashions on your website, they.
Speaker AThey range from casual barbecue, picnic, right up to where a tuxedo wedding.
Speaker AAnd yet every single item is so approachable.
Speaker AYou look at that, and you look at those visuals on there, and you say to yourself, I could wear that.
Speaker AI could wear that on my vacation.
Speaker AI could wear that when I go to the beach.
Speaker AI could wear that when I go to dinner with my friends.
Speaker AWhat are some of the things that inspire the fashions that you design at Cultured Rider?
Speaker BSo interesting that you said that.
Speaker BAnd I'm actually really honored that you said that, that it was accessible, because that's literally what I was trying to do.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo let me kind of back up a little bit.
Speaker BI started designing this collection in May of 2024.
Speaker BSo we're a very, very brand new company.
Speaker BI have absolutely no designing skills.
Speaker BI have absolutely no business doing what I'm doing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause this is not my profession.
Speaker BBut I wanted to do something that was creative because I've always been creative.
Speaker BJust didn't know what to do with it.
Speaker BSo I said, let me start designing clothes.
Speaker BLike, why not?
Speaker BMy.
Speaker BMy father is my manufacturer, so I have an advantage there.
Speaker BAnd I started with the equestrian collection first and I wanted to do something that, you know, wasn't out there.
Speaker BSomething that was not simpler, but something that was easy to wear for anyone, right?
Speaker BYou didn't feel like you had to be a certain way or, you know, just to bring that prettiness back or that, that femininity back into the writing.
Speaker BYou know, the writing discipline is, it's kind of how cultured writer was created.
Speaker BAnd, and then, you know, it really evolved into, okay, let's add something for the Ferrell racers, let's add something for the Rainers, let's add something for trail.
Speaker BAnd it kind of developed, but believe it or not, that collection was put together in two weeks.
Speaker BI know I'm crazy, but I have the advantage of, you know, my dad being my manufacturer and he's like, okay, we can do this, we can do this.
Speaker BAnd that's kind of where I initially, in August, had shown August of 2024, I showed cultured Writer.
Speaker BAnd while I was there, I was kind of contemplating whether I did the right thing or not.
Speaker BI felt like I needed something more accessible.
Speaker BAnd that's where I added Lavender Sky.
Speaker BSo flew back out to India for literally two weeks, created lavender sky, and I showed lavender sky in January.
Speaker BSo those two collections are very different, but it's for a, a girl who rides, right?
Speaker BLike, let's say you're out in, you know, in your barn and you're cleaning up after your horses, you're wearing a shirt, you can actually wear that shirt right out to town.
Speaker BOr you can, you know, like the date night, you can wear lavender sky and feel pretty.
Speaker BSo I, you know, I just wanted to kind of put something that was accessible to, to everyone.
Speaker ASo that was something I noticed too, that I think is unique to Cultured Rider.
Speaker AI've never seen this in any other fashion oriented brand that you, you have curated lines that you can drop.
Speaker AUse the drop down menu.
Speaker AYou can if you're a hunter rider, if you're a Rainer, if you're a barrel racer, you can click on that and you have suggestions, curated suggestions.
Speaker AAgain, great.
Speaker AFor those of us who are not really confident in our fashion choices, what are some of the design cues that allow you to do those different curated lists?
Speaker AIs it color, is it cut, is it fabric?
Speaker BA little of each.
Speaker BSo it really depends.
Speaker BLike when you're a barrel racer, you want something that's easily movable and right, you're moving, you're racing your horse, so you want something that's Tight, but not too tight.
Speaker BStretchy, but not too stretchy.
Speaker BYou want something that's breathable because you're.
Speaker BYou're hot.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo I. I choose fabric based on that.
Speaker BBut barrel racers love to have color, and.
Speaker BAnd they're.
Speaker BThey're not afraid to go, you know, out of the box.
Speaker BSo you'll see some really cool fabrics out there.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BBut then you have disciplines that don't allow bling or they don't allow fringe.
Speaker BSo we just have to be very careful with how we, you know, how we put the collection together.
Speaker BBut, you know, coming into the.
Speaker BTo this industry, I had a lot of learning to do, and both Carly and Kaylin have been great resources for me to kind of guide me and say, hey, have you thought of doing this or have you, you know, thought of doing that?
Speaker BAnd, you know, they've helped me build my collection together.
Speaker BAnd just talking to customers, especially at Westa, right, Talking to people who are rider themselves, but they own a boutique, and they want to see different.
Speaker BDifferent options.
Speaker BAnd for example, I had a customer in January who loved one of my Carly shirts, but she didn't want the satin.
Speaker BShe wanted made in cotton.
Speaker BWell, guess what?
Speaker BThat's what.
Speaker BThat's what we do.
Speaker BWe can take the same pattern and just change the fabric so it's more friendly.
Speaker AOh, my gosh.
Speaker AI was thinking exactly the same thing.
Speaker AYeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker BWell, like I said, I'm cheating a little bit, right?
Speaker BBecause I have my dad, who, you know, I can call him and be like, hey, dad, can we do this?
Speaker BAnd he's like, absolutely.
Speaker BOr he'll turn around, be like, yeah, we can't do this because this is, you know, really difficult, or, you know, the fabric's not available or whatever it is.
Speaker BSo it's was supposed to start out as a hobby.
Speaker BIt's become a business.
Speaker BAnd it's been pretty kind of wild to see people wearing my.
Speaker BMy stuff and loving it and tagging us on their Instagram.
Speaker BAnd I'm just in awe every day of like, did I.
Speaker BDid I really do that?
Speaker BDid I really put this together?
Speaker BI have no design background.
Speaker BI have no apparel background.
Speaker BI have nothing.
Speaker BI'm in supply chain by profession, so totally out of my comfort zone.
Speaker BBut, yeah, I'm enjoying every minute of it.
Speaker ABut obviously, you're adept, if not expert, at putting together a really good team.
Speaker AIt sounds like you have members of your cultured writer team that you have, that you have a really great relationship with, and that allows you to keep things moving.
Speaker ASmoothly, you don't have those interruptions because of breakdowns in communication, which are.
Speaker AThey can be the death of any business.
Speaker AAnd it sounds like.
Speaker ASounds like you've got that part really well ironed out.
Speaker BOh, my gosh.
Speaker BI can't tell you how lucky I have been.
Speaker BWhen I first started this, I realized I needed somebody to do my social media.
Speaker BI was.
Speaker BI was actually at work one day, and I was like, let.
Speaker BLet me Google and find someone to help me.
Speaker BAnd I ended up meeting Romina, who is my social media manager, and my gosh, am I lucky to have her.
Speaker BAnd, you know, she really helped me understand Instagram, which is, oh, my gosh, more involved than I realize.
Speaker BYou know, my children are more aware of, you know, how to do certain things.
Speaker BAnd so she's been a blessing.
Speaker BBut, you know, like I said at Westa, when I saw Kailyn walk by with her crown, I was like, who are you?
Speaker BWhy are you wearing a crown?
Speaker BPlease come talk to me.
Speaker BAnd funny story.
Speaker BSo the most expensive piece I have on my website is called the K. Lynn.
Speaker BAnd this is because when I met her at Westa, she.
Speaker BShe tried on that outfit, she tried on the jacket.
Speaker BAnd I turned around, looked at her dead in the face, and I said, this is yours.
Speaker BAnd she's like, what?
Speaker BI'm like, this is yours.
Speaker BThis was meant to be yours.
Speaker BIt fits you like a glove.
Speaker BAnd I turn around, look at my husband, and he's looking at me like, sure.
Speaker BOh, stretchy.
Speaker BYeah, I understand.
Speaker BBut that's your most expensive piece.
Speaker BI was like, I understand.
Speaker BBut to me, relationships are so much part of what we do, right?
Speaker BAnd that's really why we come to west side is to build.
Speaker BBuilt these relationships and have these relationships.
Speaker BAnd I was like, who better to.
Speaker BTo tie up with than somebody who is the, you know, poster child, or however you want to call it.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BI can't come up with the word.
Speaker BBut she embodies everything I believe in, right?
Speaker BWomen being, you know, strong women helping each other, being beautiful, being strong.
Speaker BAnd I mean, she.
Speaker BShe has an mba, she's educated, she's gorgeous, but she's just like the package.
Speaker BAnd I was like, this jacket has to be yours.
Speaker BAnd that's how I named the.
Speaker BThe jacket.
Speaker BThe K. Lynn.
Speaker AOh, my gosh, that's so interesting.
Speaker AAnd another thing that, again, I think this is unusual, if not unique for the industry.
Speaker AAt Cultured Rider, you have a custom ordering process.
Speaker AWalk.
Speaker AWhat is that?
Speaker AAnd walk us through it.
Speaker AWhy did you start it?
Speaker BAs far as the Horse apparel industry is concerned.
Speaker BIt's not really a unique offering.
Speaker BA lot of the higher end designers do cut them, but I, you know, I mean, honestly, I have the ability to do it because of the, you know, access that I have with the, the, the factory.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI'm able to say, okay, I like this design, but the customer doesn't want yellow bling.
Speaker BThey want purple bling.
Speaker BLike, it's something that's so easy for me to do.
Speaker BSo it was part of, you know, it was part of the original plan of having that, that customization.
Speaker BI, I've never been introduced to the rodeo queen industry, which is where Kaelyn comes from.
Speaker BAnd that's kind of where we're, we're targeting going forward is, you know, making very unique pieces for girls who are trying out for either Ms. Rodeo USA or Ms. Rodeo America or their local pageant.
Speaker BSo having that, having that ability, I think really puts, you know, cultured writer at an advantage.
Speaker BAnd the other thing is because I, because of the accessibility to fabric and design and, you know, bling and things like that.
Speaker BAnd I don't think bling is the official term, but rhinestone.
Speaker BYeah, but everybody calls it.
Speaker BI think you're right.
Speaker AEverybody.
Speaker BI know, but I can build something that's within everyone's budget, right?
Speaker BOr I can, I can have a customer say, hey, I'm willing to spend a thousand.
Speaker BAnd I, I can have a girl who says, listen, my budget's 200, so I can really play around with, with that and offer them something so unique that they don't have to break their bank.
Speaker BAnd part of the reason that actually happened was I was at a horse retailer, clothing retailer, and one of the clerks I was talking to, she was talking to me about her favorite outfit that she arrived in, and she had spent $800 on that shirt.
Speaker BAnd I said, wow, that's amazing.
Speaker BShe goes, yeah, that was the money that my grandpa left me.
Speaker BAnd I was like, I'm sorry.
Speaker BYou used all the money that you had from your grandpa to buy a shirt?
Speaker BAnd she's like, yeah, because they're so expensive.
Speaker BAnd that's what it hit me.
Speaker BLike, I don't.
Speaker BI want these girls to look beautiful and not have to spend something that their, their grandparent left for them.
Speaker BYou know, like, it kind of hit me and I'm like, that's why I want to make some of the stuff that, you know, I put out there accessible to everybody.
Speaker BAnd I'm willing to work with, with customers.
Speaker BAnd, you know, my first question is, what is Your budget, What do you want to do?
Speaker AYeah, exactly.
Speaker AAnd that's a key aspect of all of this, is being able to be accessible both in the fashions and the styles, but also in the price point.
Speaker BYeah, I think that's really, really important.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo you have wholesale program and private label options.
Speaker AIs that another thing that you had in mind from the get go or is that something that has evolved a little bit since you're business began?
Speaker BIt definitely involved.
Speaker BInvolved.
Speaker BI'm sorry.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause like I said, this was initially created as a hobby and it, it's, it's blown up into something that I didn't expect.
Speaker BAnd you know, one of the things that I always tell myself is just keep an open mind.
Speaker BBring, you know, whatever, whatever comes your way, you know, accept it and take it.
Speaker BAnd that's the wholesale part really happens because, you know, it was something that I could do and I have access to and private labeling is something that my, the factory in India already does.
Speaker BI mean, they've been in business for over 40 years.
Speaker BThey manufacture for manufactured garments for customers all over the world, so why not?
Speaker BSo I've actually had really cool opportunities that have come out of Westa that have, has nothing to do with horse related, but we are doing shirts for a customer, you know, and it's, it's, it's been kind of really cool that that's what it translated to because, you know, when, when my customer approached me and said, hey, can you do men's shirts?
Speaker BAnd I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker BIt's, you know, we have the ability or capability of doing that.
Speaker BSo that's, that's, that's pretty cool.
Speaker AThat's interesting that.
Speaker AAnd I can see a few years down the line that the cultured rider expanding into more of the menswear perhaps.
Speaker BWell, we did, we did do a soft launch in January actually.
Speaker BWe did a men's line, but we had a lot of feedback of what men actually like.
Speaker BThey, they're a little bit different than, than women.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhen it comes to their shirts.
Speaker BThey want certain buttons, they want certain fit, they want certain fabrics.
Speaker BSo we're kind of going back to the drawing board and I'm hoping to have something out for next January.
Speaker AThere we go.
Speaker AI'm going to put out a personal request to cultured rider in the menswear line.
Speaker AWhen it, when it, when it debuts in 2026, I'm putting words in your mouth.
Speaker APlease create shirts for men who are not extra large size and over six feet tall.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AIt's Crazy.
Speaker AIt's crazy how you cannot find tall men's clothing unless the tall man is built like a linebacker.
Speaker BI don't know.
Speaker AWe need to chat.
Speaker AI'll be.
Speaker AI'll be.
Speaker AI'll be there in August.
Speaker AWe'll chat.
Speaker BWe'll.
Speaker AWe'll talk about.
Speaker ASo one more thing.
Speaker ADo you have a favorite piece in your lineup?
Speaker AA personal favorite, and why?
Speaker BWell, it's kind of my namesake, the Yuki.
Speaker BIt was.
Speaker BIt was a jacket that I literally had the design in my head, so it wasn't really put on paper or anything.
Speaker BAnd I sat with my tailor and drove him crazy.
Speaker BDon't.
Speaker BDon't get me wrong.
Speaker BBut I was like, okay, put this here.
Speaker BPut this here.
Speaker BI want you to do this.
Speaker BAnd it just kind of evolved into this beautiful jacket.
Speaker BIt's one of my favorite pieces.
Speaker BAnd I.
Speaker BThat's kind of.
Speaker BThat's really the first design that I. I put together, and I. I love that piece.
Speaker BIt really does kind of, you know, allow me to.
Speaker BTo keep going in a sense, when I look at that piece.
Speaker BSo, yeah, I guess that the Yuki is the one that.
Speaker BThat I love the most.
Speaker AI love the cut on that.
Speaker AI'm a very, very conservative dresser.
Speaker AProbably related to my lack of confidence when it comes to fashion, but I just am in love with the cut on that jacket.
Speaker AIf we could make that in, like, some lovely earth tones, I'd be your best friend.
Speaker BWell, let's, you know, reach out to me, and we'll make a custom piece for you.
Speaker ABut I can see why you're.
Speaker AWhy you love that.
Speaker ANow, am I getting it right that there are little zippers on the cuffs?
Speaker BThere are zippers on the cuff, yeah.
Speaker AOh, how cool.
Speaker ANow, was the zipper on the cuff purely a design choice, or was that something also related to the equestrianism and the usefulness of the garment?
Speaker BI honestly put the zipper on there just in case, you know, like, when you have something that's, like, too tight and you don't want it to be too tight, you just want it to, like, be.
Speaker BSo I just wanted to give it that little, like, flexibility.
Speaker BBut also, when you're done, you can unzip and just.
Speaker BI mean, you can't roll this one, but you can unzip the zipper and just kind of cool down a little bit.
Speaker BAnd that's the interesting that, you know, I don't ride horses.
Speaker BI have no experience in riding horses, but I.
Speaker BThat's kind of where my advantage is as I come in looking at it from a very different perspective.
Speaker BRight for example, the barrel racers love the zipper because after they race they want to be able to take off their shirt because they're hot.
Speaker BWell, guess what?
Speaker BThe zipper in the front and the zipper on the side allows you, or even the Velcro allows you to take it off immediately.
Speaker BPretty, you know, it's, it's a pretty quick, you know, quick, you know, you can take it off.
Speaker BSorry.
Speaker BYeah, but these are different things that the industry hasn't seen.
Speaker BBut I have, I have some ideas, right.
Speaker BAnd I just, I just have to kind of implement it and see and some, and a lot of the, a lot of the, the disciplines are different.
Speaker BLike for example, I have a team up in Canada that bought some of my shirts but they needed buttons on top of the placket because it has to be a button up but they want a zipper feature underneath.
Speaker BSo that's the cool thing about working with us is however you want to design your, your shirt, we can, we can accommodate that.
Speaker APerfect.
Speaker ANow one final question, I promise, then we'll let you get on with your day.
Speaker AFor someone who's doing the custom order, which I think is something that is just going to shine for you guys, what kind of, and it's tough because it could change from, from season to season.
Speaker AWhat kind of a turnaround time would one might expect?
Speaker BSo if it's something as simple as a shirt and you just want the measurements that could be maybe a two week turnaround.
Speaker BIt really isn't, you know, a really long.
Speaker BAnd the only thing is fabric availability is super important and just you know, being able to turn that around.
Speaker BBut for example, if you wanted like either the K. Lynn or the Yuki, like the more elaborate jacket.
Speaker BOh, let me put it in perspective.
Speaker BThe Kalin took 400 man hours to put together.
Speaker BSo yeah, by like a month and a half or something because it's all hand done so it could take a little bit but you know, it, it really just depends on what you're, what you're looking for.
Speaker AThere we go.
Speaker AThank you very much for spending some time with us today, Yuki.
Speaker AThis has been fascinating.
Speaker BI really appreciate this.
Speaker BThis has been awesome.
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