Speaker A

Hi, guys.

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It's me, Lisa.

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And I'm Emily.

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And we are, as always, the Conscious Collaboration Podcast.

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Among other things.

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Yes, many things.

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Among many other things.

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So many hats.

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Wasn't it a Gemini full moon?

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Like, yeah, the last big one.

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Super moon.

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Super Gemini.

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So bright.

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It was.

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It was bright and huge.

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She was interrogating me while I was sleeping.

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Our Gemini brains.

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Yes.

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Lots happening.

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Oh, man.

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Yeah, a lot is happening.

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And I think, you know, without trying to get too fancy with it, I think at the timing for where this podcast is going to fall, it's a great time to just check in and find out about any sort of insights, any last insights to take with us as we exit 2025 and enter 2026.

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Insights to take away from the year we are leaving behind and things to guide us forward in the right direction for 2026.

Speaker B

Yeah, when you were talking about that, I was thinking about, like, wringing out a towel.

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You know, like the last drips out of a towel.

Speaker A

Yeah, yeah.

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Yes.

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Okay, so looking.

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Just real quick, quickie here.

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We've got our cards.

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Okay.

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The energy around us right now and then moving forward.

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That's too many.

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Hold your horses.

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Fire horses.

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Okay.

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Wow.

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All right.

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I like this new effect that Zoom has where it, like, zooms in on you when you're being dramatic.

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Mine's not doing it.

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It takes a while.

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Everyone else had it before me, and then it rolled out and I got it.

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So the energy around us right now is great vigor.

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We love that card.

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We're fired up.

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Great bigger.

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34.

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Thunder above, sky below.

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And let's see.

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Great Bigger.

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It says, congratulations.

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Thank you.

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You know what I.

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That just made me think of was like, the Publisher's Clearinghouse envelopes that you would get back in the day, and they were like these fat tree oyster envelopes.

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And it'd be like, oh, my God, you won a million dollars.

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And I'd be like, seven years old.

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Like, ah.

Speaker A

I know.

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Those commercials were so fun.

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And I like, that never happened in real life that I know of.

Speaker A

Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, congratulations.

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There is strength and vigor in a situation like that of a ram that knocks down a fence to free himself from captivity.

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We've been talking about this.

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This points to a time when a strong force comes into its own and asserts its power.

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A leader into a position of power.

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Finding yourself in an influential position.

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Yeah.

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Acting responsibly and reacting with care.

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Keeping arrogance in check.

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So we're shifting into cutting through, which is energy.

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21.

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Hexagram 21.

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And it tells A story of fire above and thunder below.

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Lots of fire.

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Fire.

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There is a divine message here, or, you know, collective consciousness that advises the use of excessive force generates strong opposition, leading to deadlocks that makes it impossible to advance or retreat.

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So if you have pushed things too far, your only option may be to recognize the obstacles created by an overly aggressive attitude and then make proper adjustments.

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It's hard when you're like, you've got all this energy up and you just want to like, push, push, push through.

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So kind of have to keep ourselves in check a little bit.

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I Ching.

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And then also it says a little bit more about this story of a ram crashing through a hedge, gets his horns tangled up.

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So he may be the strongest animal in the flock, but a proud, haughty ram brings misfortune upon himself.

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Avoid empty displays of power force.

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A wise leader measures success in terms of finely tuned performance, not raw power.

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Power is the fuel, but careful precision is the regulator.

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So being more precise and pushy.

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And then lastly, the gates of good fortune are swinging open.

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The time has come to plunge ahead in times of great opportunity.

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Beware of premature celebrating.

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Keep your balance.

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Well, we just, it just told us congratulations.

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And we like, this is like the Publisher's Clearinghouse, but premature celebration.

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We had to be cautious of that and that cutting through energy.

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I think a lot of people have been wanting to cut through stagnation and feeling stuck and not clear about things.

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In 2025, it's been a huge theme.

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So it calls for confronting a thorny situation and cutting through it.

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Leaning into uncomfortable things is the way to get through this stagnation.

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Somehow the way to harmony and unity is blocked or frustrated perhaps by a tangle of deceit or corruption or just confusion.

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Those who bring discipline to be to to bear must above all be honest and honor honest with themselves.

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I mean, this has been a big theme throughout that super Moon that we just had.

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I know this is coming out a few in a few weeks, but Gemini, super moon.

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But the theme of.

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So it's.

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It's talking about don't hesitate to go public with the truth, bringing up serious issues of imbalances or injustice.

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So it's really in all the energy readings I've been doing and all the conversations of what people are experiencing, the disillusions that are falling away.

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It's really hard, especially for air signs and earth signs.

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I mean, it's hard for everybody, but it's hard to identify where there is an injustice, imbalance and have that conversation.

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But it needs to happen in Order to cut through it.

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So that could be on a big level, a world level, a social level, that could be an interpersonal level, professional level.

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But in order for us to grow and to expand, that we've been talking about in the past couple jam sessions we've been doing, we have to lean into the.

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The hard things, not pretend they're going to go away.

Speaker A

Yeah.

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Can't grow with dead weight.

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Yeah.

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So word with great vigor.

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Dead weight and baggage hanging around.

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Yeah.

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And it's.

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It's, you know, with the opposing.

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There's opposing forces.

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Right.

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So it's not just you that's involved in this process, that there's numerous other interactions that are also involved.

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So without being able to be a good communicator or to address things that need to be addressed, I mean, I think everyone's just so tired from 2025 that we just want to sweep things under the rug and just, you know, jump into fire horse season and have all this abundance and forward energy.

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But it doesn't work that way.

Speaker A

Nope.

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So that's always the life lesson.

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So you want to pull a couple cards around that and see if it puts a bow on it.

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I'll put one or however many, See how you feel.

Speaker A

This one flew on out the top, so we'll take it.

Speaker B

Yes.

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I think it will be appropriate for the message, at any rate.

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Death, rebirth on the bottom.

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So definitely going along with what we've been talking about there.

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I think I got a sneeze coming, so pardon me if that.

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Yeah, me too.

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Decides to make an appearance.

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All right.

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That was a pretty clear.

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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Oh, okay.

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So what landed on the bottom of the deck, which I. I don't know, Kind of an accessory.

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Energy.

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Yeah.

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So a new, you know, a new beginning in earthly matters of the material things.

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And then the second card that flew out of my shuffle is the four of pentacles.

Speaker B

Oh, lots of pentacles everywhere.

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Yeah.

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Along with the magician, which was the first.

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The first card that came out.

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So the magician, kind of the.

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The generic reading is like you have all the tools you need.

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You already have what you need to create the abundance that you're seeking.

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And it's a lot about alchemy, turning lead into gold, this.

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This type of thing.

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So let's.

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Let's read.

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Let's read the book saying on it.

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And the.

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The phrase for the magician is, I can manifest the life I desire through energy and action.

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Right.

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Kind of like touching on what you just.

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We're talking about.

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We don't just get to move into all this abundance.

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No, no.

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You take energy, energy and action.

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So the light side of this energy is skill, natural talents, powers of manifestation, creativity and resourcefulness.

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The shadow side of this energy talks more about unused potential, latent talents, questionable intentions, manipulation, selfishness, unfocused or blocked creative energy.

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And the explanation reads, the magician brings forth a powerful message of creation and potential.

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You are magic.

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You have everything you need to succeed.

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Badass.

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Manifesting energy from the cosmos, all the skills you require, they're at your fingertips, beautiful creator.

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Go.

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Create.

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Activate the magic in your veins by focusing your energy, willpower, desire and actions.

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When you consciously step into your personal power and decide to shape the material world in this way, every breath in and out is an opportunity to carve new meanings and new perspectives into reality.

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If you are unsure of your ability to create the life you desire, trust in the latent potential that resides within you.

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Feeling less than inspired at this time reminds you that it's time to find your muse, find your spark, find your why.

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With everything you need sitting in front of you like a giant universe cauldron, what is it that you desire to bring to life?

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And what can you do today that will bring you one step closer to reality?

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I would think of this, this first card that came out as just kind of an environmental or a base energy for this little mini reading.

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And I just, I like that explanation of this particular card.

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And it reminds me of a lot of, you know, what I try to get out of people in coaching a lot about finding your why?

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Because it's that, you know, people always look to the motivation when they're trying to do something hard.

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Because, let's be honest, like, hard things are way easier and fun when we have that motivation.

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But it is a, an emotion and it is temporary.

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It is fleeting, guaranteed.

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So we cannot rely on motivation in order to do your hard things.

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But if we have our why, if we have a solid why that we as address at, at our core, then you know when the motivation inevitably wanes.

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And you know it's not willpower that's going to get us through either, right?

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It's.

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It's that why.

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And that why gives you an unwavering drive to just do the hard things, regardless of when it's hard and how little you feel like it.

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And, and just also that idea of breaking things down into very small, manageable targets, that asking that question of what can I do today?

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That will bring me just one step closer to that reality.

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So keeping that in mind, and then four of pentacles I'm not a thousand percent familiar with this card.

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You know, my, my understanding of it is kind of being like, like you can see, see she's almost literally being tight with her purse strings in, in this car, kind of clutching her purse.

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I think it could lean, veer into like hoarding, you know, but also just on a more practical level, just being mindful of, you know, how you're expending your, your energy or your resources, your resources.

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But your resources could also be in this vein of like releasing, you know, what is weighing us down.

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You know, this could also be being just frugal with where you expend your energy, not literally just your resources or thinking of energy as a resource and not not giving to things that aren't giving back to you.

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That's not Super 4 pentacles, but that's kind of what I'm, I'm thinking of.

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So the phrase for this is I live an abundant life and I have more than I need.

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So speaking to not looking at things from a place of lack, the lights here, part of this energy talks of stability, saving success, generosity, accepting your worth, being in flow with the universe, feelings of gratitude and helping others in times of need versus the shadow side.

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Yeah, hoarding, coveting lack mentality, placing too much value on money and a need to be more charitable.

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So you're building your life coin by coin and you've reached a moment of stability.

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Getting here signifies an interval when you can rest, reevaluate and take stock.

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Likely you are being reminded to double check those foundations and to save some money for a rainy day.

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How do you feel about your finances?

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Continue towards your goal without over focusing on your possessions and let go of any jealousy derived from another person's position in life.

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Negative feelings around abundance will breed energy blockages big enough to hold back even the most magical of trajectories.

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The tighter you try to hold on to the things, the more you block yourself from stepping into the flow of wealth and happiness.

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If a scarcity mindset is haunting your actions, ask yourself if you are looking down on others based on how much money they have or don't have.

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Actively save and give in the world and focus on feeling excited and expensive.

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I mean, I think it's just a good reminder that in preparation for this impending abundance, like both things are true, we need to be mindful of not just, you know, recklessly letting go of, of our resources, but at the same time not operating from a lack mentality.

Speaker A

Yeah, operating from a place of there is place plenty I have more than I need.

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And creating that energy in your life by being that energy.

Speaker B

Yeah, that's kind of what I was seeing too.

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Like, the way that she was clutching her handbag or her coins is like, you know.

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Yeah.

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You don't want to, like, dump out all your coins, like, all at one time, but also, like, trust that you can trust that it's flowing.

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker B

Like, you know, it doesn't need to be so closed up at the same time.

Speaker B

And yeah, like, this time of year, it's a good time for evaluation and like, tweaking things and, and seeing how your resources energetically, or like you said, like, physically or in terms of money or anything else, how it's being used.

Speaker A

So eliminating any waste, but also, you know, not holding yourself back.

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Holding back due to fear.

Speaker B

Yeah.

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Due to fear.

Speaker B

Yeah.

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It's so much easier to create from a place of, like, security and trust and.

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And that's been a big topic I've seen everywhere, you know, social media and among groups and so on and so forth.

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Yeah, I like it.

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I know.

Speaker B

We've, you know, maybe we'll put out our second version of our alignment guide, like another iteration of whether or not it's an alignment or check in.

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So, you know, I think this, you know, we're talking to people right now, probably Christmas Eve, so.

Speaker A

Oh, it is on a Wednesday, isn't it?

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

So it's like, what's the next version there?

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I think everyone who listens with us really values and understands, like, these are uncharted times in terms of what we can expect and how we can prepare and take care of ourselves at the same time and grow in the direction that we desire.

Speaker B

So to put some thought around that, maybe ask some questions inside of the group, like, what does that mean?

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Like, how can we help keep each other accountable to continue forward?

Speaker B

Yeah.

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And like, what were the biggest lessons that we learned in terms of, like, when were those days where we felt super aligned and what happened?

Speaker B

I didn't do a great job of journaling, but I think, like, there it is.

Speaker B

Our podcast check ins have been kind of like our form of journaling.

Speaker A

Yeah, very much so.

Speaker A

Podcast check ins and Instagram stories.

Speaker A

That's kind of.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

So maybe we take a scroll back through our Instagram shares.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

Snoop Dogg has come up quite a bit.

Speaker A

I am not mad about that at all.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

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My kids were talking about them this morning.

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There's a.

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There's a Snoop Christmas elf that they were hoping would visit.

Speaker B

Yeah, yeah.

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So they were like, oh, we really like this new Christmas elf.

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And, you know, we would love to have another elf because, you know, I. I bought into the whole elf thing.

Speaker B

Do you do that?

Speaker A

No.

Speaker B

Oh, gosh.

Speaker B

It's really hard.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

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Gotta remember to that the elf needs to move every night to get a.

Speaker A

Better little disco ball tree and some nice Santas, and.

Speaker B

I like it.

Speaker B

Well, let's get back to work.

Speaker B

And that embodiment that we're talking about and leaning into the difficult and challenging things and getting ahead and the gates are open.

Speaker B

I guess this is the second time in this fall winter season that that message has come out.

Speaker B

I don't know if it was in the forward position or the.

Speaker B

If it was in the same position or not, but.

Speaker A

Yeah, listen.

Speaker B

Listen to it.

Speaker B

There's a tip.

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Get ahead of it.

Speaker B

All right, girl.

Speaker B

Well, thanks, everybody, for listening to us.

Speaker B

We appreciate you just saying, like, what.

Speaker B

What episode number are we like?

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

That's exciting.

Speaker B

Looking forward to having Michelle come back and join us soon.

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

People reconnecting and everything, so that's exciting.

Speaker B

Can look forward to that in the coming weeks.

Speaker B

And I think.

Speaker B

And a guest coming up, so.

Speaker A

Love it.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker B

We'll be talking to you soon.

Speaker A

All right, talk to you in five.

Speaker A

Bye, guys.

Speaker B

Bye, guys.