You've hired an SEO expert, you've paid them good money, and
Speaker:then you spend all your time either breathing down their neck like a
Speaker:paranoid boss or telling them to stay in their lane.
Speaker:Either way, you're sabotaging your own results. Let's do
Speaker:this.
Speaker:This is SEO fucking one. I'm Nicky. I've been in SEO
Speaker:for over 30 years before it was even called SEO.
Speaker:I help people like you make money from your website
Speaker:by actually getting found in search. And today, we're
Speaker:tackling something that's been coming up more and more. The two
Speaker:ways businesses completely fuck up working with SEO
Speaker:freelancers and consultants.
Speaker:You either micromanagers, like we're your newest graduate hire
Speaker:who can't be trusted to make a cup of tea, or you go the opposite
Speaker:direction and refuse to let us anywhere near the information we
Speaker:need to do the job properly. Both approaches are costing you
Speaker:money. And honestly, both are driving good SEO people
Speaker:away from working with you. Let me tell you about
Speaker:a client I parted ways with recently.
Speaker:Every time I asked for conversion data, you know, the stuff that
Speaker:tells me whether the traffic I'm bringing in is actually doing anything good,
Speaker:I got told to stay in my lane. Every time I suggested moving
Speaker:a call to action button because it was buried at the bottom of the page
Speaker:like a shameful secret, I got the same response.
Speaker:That's not SEO. Stick to what you know. We've got it under
Speaker:control. Thanks. We'll let you know if our internal experts need your help.
Speaker:I get it. You've got departments, you've got territories.
Speaker:Everyone's got their little kingdom that they're protecting. But this
Speaker:is what people don't seem to understand. SEO doesn't
Speaker:exist in a vacuum. It never has. And it
Speaker:really, really definitely doesn't these days.
Speaker:Hiring an SEO expert but not letting them look at the bigger picture
Speaker:is like hiring a plumber to fix your leaky tap. But telling
Speaker:them they're not allowed to check your water pressure. They might get the tap working,
Speaker:but you're still going to have problems. And we all know who you're going to
Speaker:blame when your ceiling falls down. So let's talk about the
Speaker:two main ways that businesses fuck this up.
Speaker:First of all, the micromanagement problem.
Speaker:Treating freelancers like employees, and not even good
Speaker:employees, more like employees you don't trust to wipe their own
Speaker:asses. I've had clients who wanted daily check
Speaker:ins daily for SEO work. What am I going to
Speaker:tell you every single day? Yep, we're still waiting for
Speaker:Google to index that page. Same as yesterday and
Speaker:the day before. See you tomorrow for the exact same
Speaker:update. And then there's the obsession with making freelancers use
Speaker:your internal systems. And look, I've been doing this for three decades.
Speaker:I've got processes that work across multiple clients. I've
Speaker:refined these systems over years of trial and error. But sure,
Speaker:let me abandon all of that to learn your bespoke project management
Speaker:tool that someone's nephew built in 2019 and hasn't
Speaker:been updated since. And don't get me started on the meetings.
Speaker:Oh, God, the meetings. Can you join our weekly team?
Speaker:Catch up? No, No, I cannot, because I
Speaker:have other clients and I'm not sitting through 45 minutes of Barry
Speaker:from accounts talking about the new coffee machine when I could be actually
Speaker:doing the work you're paying me for. Because what businesses don't seem to
Speaker:grasp is that when you hire a freelancer, you're not hiring
Speaker:a remote employee. You're engaging an independent
Speaker:business. Someone who brings expertise from working with
Speaker:multiple clients across different industries. Someone who's
Speaker:seen what works and what doesn't across dozens of different
Speaker:situations. You chose a freelancer
Speaker:specifically to avoid the management hassle. You
Speaker:wanted results without the overheads of employment. So why are you
Speaker:now trying to manage me like I'm fresh out of university and need
Speaker:handholding through every decision? You're paying for my expertise.
Speaker:Let me fucking use it. And then there's the
Speaker:stay in your lane problem. That's the opposite end of the spectrum.
Speaker:The clients who don't micromanage your process as such,
Speaker:but do restrict your access to everything you need to deliver results.
Speaker:When I ask for mobile versus desktop conversion data,
Speaker:it's not because I'm bored and fancy a bit of one on one spreadsheet action
Speaker:is because I can see your mobile traffic is bouncing and I suspect
Speaker:your conversion rates are shite too. That information directly
Speaker:affects my SEO recommendations. When I suggest changing
Speaker:your call to action button test from Submit Inquiry,
Speaker:which sounds like you're filing a complaint with the Council, to some things
Speaker:that might actually encourage people to click it, that's not
Speaker:me overstepping, that's me trying to make sure the traffic I bring you does
Speaker:something useful. And when I ask for heatmap data to see
Speaker:where people are giving up and leaving your pages, I'm not trying to steal
Speaker:your UX team's job. I'm trying to understand user
Speaker:behavior so I can optimize for it. Google's been clear about this
Speaker:for years. User experience signals matter. If people
Speaker:land on your site from A search result immediately think sod this
Speaker:and go back to Google. That tells Google your page wasn't a good answer
Speaker:to their query. Your rankings will suffer. So when you tell me to
Speaker:stay in my lane and tell me to only worry about keywords and
Speaker:rankings, you're asking me to do half a job.
Speaker:And then you wonder why you're not getting the results you expected.
Speaker:And there's a real cost of getting this wrong, because let's say your
Speaker:SEO work successfully doubles your organic traffic
Speaker:over six months. Brilliant. Except if your conversion rate
Speaker:is rubbish, because nobody's looking at the user experience.
Speaker:You've just doubled the number of people who visit your site and fuck right
Speaker:off without buying anything or booking a call. Or maybe your
Speaker:conversion rate is fantastic, but your mobile experience is so poor
Speaker:that Google starts ranking you lower. And all that beautifully
Speaker:converting traffic disappears. And nobody can figure out why,
Speaker:because this is what happens when teams work in isolation
Speaker:or when freelancers aren't given access to the full picture.
Speaker:You optimize for one metric while accidentally sabotaging
Speaker:another. You fix one problem, but you create three
Speaker:more. And I've watched businesses spend thousands on
Speaker:SEO to drive more traffic, then watch their inquiry numbers
Speaker:stay flat because nobody thought to check if their contact forms worked on
Speaker:a mobile. I've seen companies with brilliant
Speaker:products lose rankings because their developers
Speaker:optimized the site in ways that confuse search engines.
Speaker:And nobody thought to involve the SEO person in that decision.
Speaker:It's maddening and it's completely avoidable.
Speaker:Okay, so here's the fix you've been waiting for.
Speaker:So here's the fix you've been waiting for. How do you actually
Speaker:work with an SEO expert, freelancer or otherwise, in
Speaker:a way that gets you results. So first of all,
Speaker:brief, properly up front. Spend time on
Speaker:detailed project briefs or onboarding calls. Explain your
Speaker:objectives, your expectations, your deadlines, and how you'll measure
Speaker:success. Share relevant background about your business, your customers,
Speaker:your competitors. Freelancers can't read your mind about your company
Speaker:history or your own state of preferences. Secondly,
Speaker:establish clear communication from the start. Agree on the
Speaker:methods and frequency upfront. Some freelancers prefer
Speaker:email, others use project tools. Some provide weekly
Speaker:updates, some monthly. Others provide milestone check ins.
Speaker:Figure out what works for both of you before the project
Speaker:starts, not halfway through, when everybody's already pissed off.
Speaker:Set response time expectations both ways. If you need
Speaker:24 hour responses, discuss that during the talks.
Speaker:And remember, it goes both ways. If you take two weeks to
Speaker:approve something, don't expect the freelancer to magically absorb that
Speaker:Delay. And for the love of all that is holy,
Speaker:clarify what urgent actually means. If everything's
Speaker:urgent, nothing is. Define what constitutes a real
Speaker:emergency versus a standard turnaround time.
Speaker:Thirdly, give your freelancer access to what they need. Your
Speaker:SEO expert needs to see conversion data, user
Speaker:behavior, insights, analytics. They need to understand what's
Speaker:happening after people land on your site. If you're hiding this
Speaker:information because it belongs to a different department, you're capping their
Speaker:ability to deliver results. Let them talk to your developers when
Speaker:technical changes are needed. Let them see your sales data so they
Speaker:understand what makes customers buy. Stop treating information
Speaker:like it's classified government secrets. You're not that important.
Speaker:And fourthly, respect their expertise. You hired
Speaker:your SEO because they know things you don't. So when they make
Speaker:recommendations, don't demand that they justify every single one
Speaker:with a detailed explanation of basic SEO principles
Speaker:backed up by exact percentages or data of how much
Speaker:traffic you'll get. If you want to understand their approach, ask
Speaker:questions, but let them apply their professional judgment. And
Speaker:if you disagree with a recommendation, have a conversation about it.
Speaker:Don't just override them and then blame them when results don't
Speaker:materialize. And fifthly, trust their
Speaker:processors. Most good freelancers have systems refined
Speaker:across multiple clients. These ensure consistent
Speaker:quality and timely delivery. If you need specific tools or
Speaker:methods, discuss that during hiring, not mid project, when
Speaker:they've already set everything up. Don't micromanage their schedule or
Speaker:ask for timesheets as long as deadlines are met. How they structure their
Speaker:work time shouldn't be your concern. They might do their best work at
Speaker:6 o' clock in the morning or still be squirreling away at midnight. It
Speaker:doesn't matter as long as the work gets done. Freelancing isn't 9
Speaker:to 5. Sixth and last plan for
Speaker:success Book your freelancers in advance. Good
Speaker:ones are scheduled weeks ahead. Plan for potential delays
Speaker:on your end and factor those into project timelines.
Speaker:Provide all the necessary resources up front. Passwords,
Speaker:assets, access to systems, whatever they need to get started.
Speaker:Nothing wastes time more than a freelancer sitting around
Speaker:waiting for you to send them the login details you promised three days
Speaker:ago. The choice here is pretty simple. You can respect your
Speaker:SEO expert as an independent professional and get excellent results.
Speaker:Or you can try to manage them like a junior employee while
Speaker:simultaneously refusing to give them the information they need and
Speaker:frustrate everyone involved. And good freelancers won't tolerate
Speaker:either extreme for long. They'll find clients who understand
Speaker:the value of expertise and independence, and you'll be back on
Speaker:the market looking for another SEO person wondering why you keep
Speaker:having the same problems. Your SEO expert isn't trying
Speaker:to take over your business when they ask for conversion data or suggest
Speaker:UX improvements. They're trying to make sure the traffic they bring
Speaker:you actually makes you money. That's the whole point.
Speaker:If this episode resonated with you, or if you want to share it with
Speaker:a client who needs to hear it, make sure you're following SEO.
Speaker:Fucking what? In whatever app you're using so you don't miss the next
Speaker:episode. And if you've got a horror story about micromanagement
Speaker:or being told to stay in your lane, drop me a message on
Speaker:LinkedIn or by email. I'd love to hear it. I might even
Speaker:put the best ones together for a future episode. Until next
Speaker:time. Get found, make money. Been on
Speaker:wanky.