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Trey Gerrald:Hey Chelsea, happy mother's day.
Trey Gerrald:Happy Cinco de Mayo.
Trey Gerrald:It's another double hitter week.
Chelsey Donn:I know all the holidays happening at once.
Chelsey Donn:I will take your happy mother's day because I'm a dog mom, as you know,
Chelsey Donn:I'm working on training Goldie, Stella to not bark.
Chelsey Donn:So if you hear a bark, occasionally, you know that we're working on it.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Chelsey Donn:And it's hard being a mom.
Trey Gerrald:It's a work in progress.
Trey Gerrald:You're a mom with many plates in the air.
Trey Gerrald:Uh, we are going to focus today's episode and the celebratory energy towards mother's day.
Trey Gerrald:So I wanted to get us kicked off with my absolute favorite Jewish mother joke, which
Trey Gerrald:So Chelsey, this is my absolute favorite.
Trey Gerrald:Here we go.
Trey Gerrald:A Jewish grandmother is giving directions to her grown grandson who
Trey Gerrald:You come in the front door of the apartments.
Trey Gerrald:I am apartment 3 0 1.
Trey Gerrald:There is a big panel at the front door with your elbow push button 3 0 1.
Trey Gerrald:I will buzz you in common side and the elevator is on the right.
Trey Gerrald:Get in.
Trey Gerrald:And with your elbow push third floor.
Trey Gerrald:When you get out, I am on the left with your elbow.
Trey Gerrald:Hit my door.
Trey Gerrald:Grandma.
Trey Gerrald:That sounds easy, but why am I hitting all these buttons with my elbow.
Trey Gerrald:What you coming?
Trey Gerrald:Empty handed.
Chelsey Donn:Ah, that's funny.
Chelsey Donn:Oh my God.
Chelsey Donn:In the time of COVID I was like, that's so considered the grandma, it'd be
Trey Gerrald:Good point.
Trey Gerrald:It actually hits a little different now with
Chelsey Donn:Right, but that's funny.
Chelsey Donn:I agree.
Chelsey Donn:You should never show up empty handed.
Chelsey Donn:That's a Shonda.
Trey Gerrald:Shonda.
Chelsey Donn:What a Shanda.
Trey Gerrald:Well Chelsey, now that we've gotten some giggles out, is there anything that.
Trey Gerrald:you want to complain about?
Trey Gerrald:That's sort of moms centric.
Chelsey Donn:We did talk about this a little bit off the air about maybe bringing on
Chelsey Donn:So, you know, I wasn't sure what I was going to do.
Chelsey Donn:And then I had a conversation with my mom and I found one.
Chelsey Donn:So,
Trey Gerrald:all right.
Trey Gerrald:Well, let's hear it.
Trey Gerrald:So does your mom have anything that she would like to.
VOICEOVER:Lodge A Complaint.
Trey Gerrald:About VAU.
Chelsey Donn:She does we do.
Chelsey Donn:I agree with this complaint actually.
Chelsey Donn:So my mom would like to complain about the gosh darn prices of groceries.
Chelsey Donn:These.
Chelsey Donn:Which I will concur.
Chelsey Donn:Listen, when I was like a kid and my grandfather would be like, when I was
Chelsey Donn:His voice did not sound like that.
Chelsey Donn:But like when he was exactly, when he would say that, I was like, okay, whatever.
Chelsey Donn:But now I'm just like, listen, the prices are going up.
Chelsey Donn:The wages are not going up.
Chelsey Donn:My mom was like, she said, she went to the grocery store to get dinner for two nights.
Chelsey Donn:Over a hundred dollars.
Chelsey Donn:That's a lot of money.
Chelsey Donn:Like when you're buying groceries, you're supposed to save money.
Chelsey Donn:That's the whole idea.
Chelsey Donn:If I'm going to go to the grocery store and spend a hundred dollars.
Chelsey Donn:Well, then I don't know.
Chelsey Donn:I feel like I should be getting another check from the government or something
Chelsey Donn:I don't know.
Chelsey Donn:Something is very wrong in the city.
Chelsey Donn:There's a kink in the.
Trey Gerrald:It's re that is funny because I do feel like that's such a, um, I feel like
Trey Gerrald:And it's funny, cause my sister actually visited with her husband and two children
Trey Gerrald:The house.
Trey Gerrald:And so I bought a bunch of groceries for the kids ahead of time, in case, you know,
Trey Gerrald:And my sister was like oh, do you think you'll mention me on the podcast?
Trey Gerrald:And I was like, well, I'm sure.
Trey Gerrald:Cause it's the mother's day episode, but here we go, you just helped me segue to say hi to
Trey Gerrald:It's like, how is this so expensive?
Chelsey Donn:The inflation rate has gone up so much.
Chelsey Donn:And I don't know that if it's like, we were agregious Slee underpaying employees
Chelsey Donn:Like I'm not really sure where the problem originated.
Chelsey Donn:So I want to leave space for like, maybe we're playing catch up, but I don't love that.
Chelsey Donn:That's like falling on the consumer
Trey Gerrald:Well, I also have a gas here because I remember like canned
Trey Gerrald:Like our parents' generation.
Trey Gerrald:It was like a new invention after the depression, it was like a way to stock up.
Trey Gerrald:And I think that ended up being cheaper than today where it's like, that's not on trend.
Trey Gerrald:Everything is fresh.
Trey Gerrald:There's only so much farm land.
Trey Gerrald:There's only so much lots of land where you can grow the fresh corn,
Trey Gerrald:Exponentially get more expensive on top of the fact of inflation, et cetera, et cetera.
Trey Gerrald:I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:I'm speaking out of my butt here, but yes, I do even recognize that as a 30 something where it's
Trey Gerrald:This is crazy.
Trey Gerrald:You know, like I remember when water bottles started and that was like,
Trey Gerrald:You go to get a water bottle at a Broadway show.
Trey Gerrald:It's like six bucks.
Trey Gerrald:So Yeah.
Trey Gerrald:Anyway.
Chelsey Donn:Anyway.
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:I know a lot, a lot of, a lot of things are changing.
Chelsey Donn:What can we say, prices being one of them.
Chelsey Donn:So what's your mom's complaint,
Trey Gerrald:So wait, what is your mom's name?
Trey Gerrald:So that was Randy's complaint.
Trey Gerrald:So I'm going to give you Peggy's complaint.
Trey Gerrald:So I have a weekly phone date with my mom and, uh, you know, we don't always meet exactly that
Trey Gerrald:feels like pulling teeth to get her to call.
Trey Gerrald:Eh, regardless, you know, she is the parent, so she wants the child to call, but I can't
Trey Gerrald:You should call, give me a call.
Trey Gerrald:Why don't you call me, call me.
Trey Gerrald:Can you call me?
Trey Gerrald:And I'm like, you can call me too.
Trey Gerrald:She'll be like, haven't heard from you.
Trey Gerrald:So I figured you were busy and I'm like, well, you could call me and find out, or you can text me.
Trey Gerrald:It's really cute.
Trey Gerrald:When my mom does text.
Trey Gerrald:'cause it'll just be like something about days, of our lives or it'll be like her dog.
Trey Gerrald:But anyway, my complaint is a very standard mother's complaints.
Trey Gerrald:I haven't heard from you.
Trey Gerrald:Why haven't you called me?
Trey Gerrald:Which I understand the power dynamic.
Trey Gerrald:I think if I had a child, I would expect the child to call me as well, but it's just funny
Trey Gerrald:And so like if one end doesn't call him the other could call.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:I just want to call out like your non-Jewish privilege for a second and
Chelsey Donn:And if I don't, it's like sound the alarm call the police.
Chelsey Donn:Something is very, very wrong.
Chelsey Donn:It's not just like you didn't call yesterday.
Chelsey Donn:It's like you put that on me.
Chelsey Donn:I thought you were in a ditch because it was 24 hours, you
Trey Gerrald:Well, there's also that other joke that I almost told today where the
Trey Gerrald:She goes, I'm been sitting in the dark for 48 hours.
Trey Gerrald:Why what's wrong with the electricity?
Trey Gerrald:Nothing you just didn't call.
Trey Gerrald:I didn't want to get up and turn the light on for failure.
Trey Gerrald:I'd miss the qual.
Chelsey Donn:Oh God.
Trey Gerrald:Anyway.
Trey Gerrald:That's Peggy's complaint.
Trey Gerrald:I wonder if any other mothers feel that complaint?
Trey Gerrald:Um, well, that's fine.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:Well, something different from mother's day.
Trey Gerrald:Exactly.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:Well, should we like move forward and do a special edition versus episode Chelsey?
Trey Gerrald:Would you like to go head to head?
Chelsey Donn:Without hesitation.
Chelsey Donn:I do.
Chelsey Donn:I would like to go ahead, Trey.
Trey Gerrald:All right, let's do it.
Trey Gerrald:Mythos.
VOICEOVER:Assess That Kvetch.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:So as I was saying today as a vs episode, meaning we are going to cover both a one
Chelsey Donn:That's right for this versus episode, Trey is reading the
Chelsey Donn:So to determine who reads first, we got to flip back quote.
Trey Gerrald:I'm going to say tails.
Trey Gerrald:Oh, it's heads.
Chelsey Donn:Uh, right.
Chelsey Donn:That means we're going to hear the five star review burst.
Chelsey Donn:So just to get us started, here's a little bit of background on UCLA health birth place.
Chelsey Donn:Westwood.
Chelsey Donn:It is one of Southern California's most comprehensive maternity centers.
Chelsey Donn:The birth place provides family centered care and offers private rooms along with
Chelsey Donn:There are elegant labor delivery.
Chelsey Donn:Recovery rooms are designed to recreate the feel of a home or a hotel room.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Chelsey Donn:So there are 18 reviews for UCLA health birth place.
Chelsey Donn:Westwood.
Chelsey Donn:It is mouthful on Yelp with an average score of 3.5, kind of right.
Chelsey Donn:A little bit above average.
Chelsey Donn:So with that being said, let's get started with this birth is.
VOICEOVER:Review That Review.
Chelsey Donn:All right.
Chelsey Donn:So as we mentioned, I am reading the five star.
Chelsey Donn:My five serve you is written by Alexandra.
Chelsey Donn:Oh, and this is Alexandra owes five-star experience.
Chelsey Donn:Here we go.
Chelsey Donn:Like many first time moms, I felt an enormous amount of anxiety over
Chelsey Donn:For months, I went back and forth on whether I wanted to give birth at home or in a hospital.
Chelsey Donn:I interviewed doctors, midwives, doulas, et cetera, and spent a good amount
Chelsey Donn:But every time I felt the most supported by Dr.
Chelsey Donn:Aparna should jar at UCLA.
Chelsey Donn:Every question I had, she took her time and answering, even when I asked it three times and
Chelsey Donn:To me, they seem to follow an evidence-based approach that balanced the health and safety
Chelsey Donn:Even still, I wasn't sure how things would pan out when I actually checked into the hospital.
Chelsey Donn:It's now been two weeks since the birth of my daughter.
Chelsey Donn:And every day I felt grateful for the experience I had at UCLA Westwood from the care provided
Chelsey Donn:To the importance placed on my birth intentions plan to the incredible care provided by Dr.
Chelsey Donn:Sridhar and finally, the resources and support provided by the nurses postpartum in
Chelsey Donn:As a whole, there is nothing we would change about our daughter's entry into this.
Trey Gerrald:Wow.
Trey Gerrald:Alexandra.
Trey Gerrald:Oh.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:So I tried to lean into that one spelling error as the top.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:There's nothing they will.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:They just spelled what wrong.
Trey Gerrald:How'd they spell it.
Chelsey Donn:W O L D.
Trey Gerrald:I love that Alexandra wrote this two weeks later, like that was still so present.
Chelsey Donn:she's literally postpartum, probably like breastfeeding her baby.
Chelsey Donn:No judgment if she's not, but you know, that's how I'm picturing it in my head.
Chelsey Donn:Not to be gross, but she's probably,
Trey Gerrald:the other
Chelsey Donn:yeah, exactly.
Chelsey Donn:Like writing this while taking care of a newborn
Trey Gerrald:I also appreciate the use of the phrase birth intention plan.
Chelsey Donn:Ms.
Chelsey Donn:Hill.
Trey Gerrald:I mean, like I know nothing about childbirth.
Trey Gerrald:I know nothing about babies.
Trey Gerrald:Like it's never been anything of interest in my life.
Trey Gerrald:Obviously I've gone through the experience with my sister and I think what is so high pressure.
Trey Gerrald:From observing as that, you do have an intention that you want to have met.
Trey Gerrald:And so I feel the depth of that desire with Alexandra saying birth intention
Trey Gerrald:And that it was like the top of the priority chain, which I think is beautiful because then
Trey Gerrald:Like, you know, I mean, it really feels like Alexandra was really taking.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah, especially because this is, you know, this is Los Angeles.
Chelsey Donn:And even though some people might kind of roll their eyes at the whole, like I was
Chelsey Donn:So I liked that they discuss, listen.
Chelsey Donn:I also was thinking about doing a non-traditional birth.
Chelsey Donn:I would imagine that other mothers who are reading these reviews might say, oh,
Chelsey Donn:And I've really wanted to go in this direction, but maybe I should
Chelsey Donn:Maybe I would be surprised like Alexandra was
Trey Gerrald:Yeah, I think that right off.
Trey Gerrald:Cause I had took a note about that too.
Trey Gerrald:I think right at the top, they did research for months like preparing which
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:Which make sense for a first time, mom?
Trey Gerrald:Exactly.
Trey Gerrald:And I think that instantly creates a trustworthiness for me.
Trey Gerrald:Even if it isn't ultimately the choice I would make, but the fact
Trey Gerrald:And like you just said the first time mom, I think that was present in
Trey Gerrald:There's so much pressure when you're a first-time mom that you're going to not get it right.
Chelsey Donn:A hundred percent.
Chelsey Donn:And also just like the added stress of that experience.
Chelsey Donn:I remember I also was there for all of my sister's births.
Chelsey Donn:She was very stressed at first time when she had to divert from the plan that she had.
Chelsey Donn:It was extremely stressful.
Chelsey Donn:So I think that it was smart of Alexandra.
Chelsey Donn:Oh.
Chelsey Donn:To go in and like, I don't know that the doctor prepared her for that.
Trey Gerrald:Absolutely.
Trey Gerrald:I also really think I'm adding value and unique information points here for Alexandra.
Trey Gerrald:Oh.
Trey Gerrald:Because they shout out to specific individuals, April and Jocelyn.
Trey Gerrald:I love when that happens and these sorts of reviews, because it's sort
Chelsey Donn:Even if nothing else, it could be like, oh, I read about you Jocelyn.
Chelsey Donn:I'm so glad I get to meet you in person.
Chelsey Donn:I actually decided to go here because it seems like you were a really great person.
Chelsey Donn:So giving a shout out to the individual, especially in this day, in this
Chelsey Donn:I imagine if I was Jocelyn, it would make my day to see, oh, I actually was
Chelsey Donn:What I was struggling to decide as I was reading through this Review!
Chelsey Donn:myself being that I know the one star review is coming because this is a birthing center.
Chelsey Donn:And because we're talking specifically about this one doctor, do we think
Chelsey Donn:Do we think that if I'm going to this birthing center and I read this Review!.
Chelsey Donn:The based off of what Alexandra is saying, I can assume that that's going to be my experience.
Chelsey Donn:I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:It's a really great question, honestly, at face value.
Trey Gerrald:I think I read Alexandra owes Review!
Trey Gerrald:and I think I'm sold.
Trey Gerrald:I mean, it's better than a commercial on television, you know, so.
Chelsey Donn:the variables are there.
Chelsey Donn:And I think that they're, we can't ignore them.
Chelsey Donn:Like
Trey Gerrald:And I think that Alexander, oh, points out the variables.
Trey Gerrald:They explicitly dictate the delivery doctor, the two nurses or whoever, April and Jocelyn.
Trey Gerrald:Also the fact that it's two weeks later and Alexandra says every single day, they've
Trey Gerrald:I mean, I don't even know that I would consider if it would be a fluke because I'm so sold.
Trey Gerrald:By how five starry this experience was for Alex.
Trey Gerrald:I don't know Alex, why don't I just
Chelsey Donn:It's a guy, Alex, we can call it.
Chelsey Donn:We can Al pal, if I was about to give birth and I was deciding where I was going to do it.
Chelsey Donn:And they saw that this place had an overall 3.5.
Chelsey Donn:What I skip and move on?
Trey Gerrald:I mean,
Chelsey Donn:I might.
Trey Gerrald:a good question.
Trey Gerrald:I know it is, it is alarming to me that it is right in the.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Trey Gerrald:But I also think anytime you're getting opinions or reviews, it's
Trey Gerrald:So landing in the middle is maybe sort of like, doesn't push it either way.
Trey Gerrald:I don't
Chelsey Donn:I guess just to like sway things for me, because I feel like
Chelsey Donn:other than the world that are so great is I think if I was going to read this Review!
Chelsey Donn:based on the fact that the overall was 3.5, I would be searching for consistencies amongst
Chelsey Donn:Is it just that Alexandra super lucked out with her experience and everything went off
Chelsey Donn:And I think I'm, I'm leaning into, I don't know what's going to happen when I hear Trey's Review!
Chelsey Donn:but you know, if I was just isolating this particular Review!
Chelsey Donn:I think I would feel safe, but is that a false safety?
Chelsey Donn:I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:I mean, I think we're getting to the point here of like, if you want to zero in
Trey Gerrald:To compare against, because I think it's such a strong, Review!
Trey Gerrald:the only thing missing here is humor.
Trey Gerrald:I don't know, like if it's appropriate in the context, but I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:I think I could crowd Alexandra.
Trey Gerrald:Oh, how are you feeling?
Chelsey Donn:I feel I can crown Alexandra.
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:I think that you're right.
Chelsey Donn:I really like that point that you just made before we sign off, but I liked the point that
Chelsey Donn:So good point try.
Chelsey Donn:All right.
Chelsey Donn:Let's crown Alexandra.
VOICEOVER:The Queens are Tabulating.
Chelsey Donn:All right.
Chelsey Donn:The Queens or unanimous four and a half crowns, four and a half crowns.
Chelsey Donn:All right, try you go first.
Chelsey Donn:Why four and a half for Alex?
Trey Gerrald:I almost want to say five, but we're missing a little humor.
Trey Gerrald:I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:I think the wood misspelling is so minimal.
Trey Gerrald:It doesn't matter, but it is curious.
Trey Gerrald:It wasn't caught, but I don't know.
Trey Gerrald:I'm very taken by the fact that it's been two weeks later, you've just given birth.
Trey Gerrald:You're like, so in awe.
Trey Gerrald:Remarkable your experience was, I don't think that can go unnoticed and it really does make me
Trey Gerrald:I mean, that's the whole point of these reviews, you know, I just took the half
Trey Gerrald:You have to have April and Jocelyn on shift at the same time as Dr.
Trey Gerrald:and let you know.
Trey Gerrald:But to me it would be my common denominator, my, um, ground.
Trey Gerrald:What did you say?
Trey Gerrald:You said that.
Trey Gerrald:My Baseline.
Trey Gerrald:for comparing.
Trey Gerrald:And so I said four and a half A'.
Trey Gerrald:Yeah.
Trey Gerrald:Okay.
Trey Gerrald:What about you?
Trey Gerrald:Why four and a half for you?
Chelsey Donn:I feel like, you know, it just takes a little extra sauce
Chelsey Donn:But I will say like, if this were American idol, I would be giving Alexandra that
Chelsey Donn:Like she's caring for a first time.
Chelsey Donn:Mom, who might be reading this Review!
Chelsey Donn:so great job, Alexandra.
Chelsey Donn:You're nearly a Review Queen.
Chelsey Donn:And thanks for your contribution, UCLA should be very proud.
Trey Gerrald:Exactly.
Trey Gerrald:Yeah, I would, I would frame this on the
Chelsey Donn:I would too.
Trey Gerrald:All right, well, let's take a quick break.
Trey Gerrald:And when we come back, we will hear an entirely different side of the story.
Chelsey Donn:God.
Chelsey Donn:And this is the part I always get so nervous about, but I can't wait.
Chelsey Donn:All right, let's do it.
Trey Gerrald:be right back.
VOICEOVER:We'll be right back.
Trey Gerrald:It's game time, right?
Trey Gerrald:Chelsey.
Trey Gerrald:Let's take our quick spin on the Meryl-Go-Round.
Trey Gerrald:' VOICEOVER: I don't feel like an icon.
Trey Gerrald:Most of the days, I feel like
Chelsey Donn:Here's the deal.
Chelsey Donn:Trey and I have each picked a rotten scathing, pithy One-Star-Zinger and with 30 seconds on
Trey Gerrald:Just like queen Meryl Streep, who does it all.
Chelsey Donn:before the clock runs out.
Chelsey Donn:All right, try.
Chelsey Donn:Whereas Huizenga from Two,.
Trey Gerrald:Today I have a one-star zinging.
Trey Gerrald:Review!
Trey Gerrald:from Zoc doc.com for an OB GYN in New Jersey.
Trey Gerrald:And this was written by our woah A'.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Trey Gerrald:and Arwa writes never again.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:I am going for a goal here.
Trey Gerrald:It's a two word.
Trey Gerrald:Review!
Trey Gerrald:I'm going to slay.
Trey Gerrald:My points are going to crown.
Trey Gerrald:I'm crowning.
Chelsey Donn:Let's do this together.
Chelsey Donn:Try it.
Chelsey Donn:I'm going to be as quick as possible with my flips.
Chelsey Donn:And I think we should try to break a record.
Chelsey Donn:Let's burn a new record here today on
Trey Gerrald:I'm in the stirrups and I'm ready to go.
Chelsey Donn:do it.
VOICEOVER:Three, Two, One, GO!.
Chelsey Donn:Feldman who are
Trey Gerrald:Never again,
Chelsey Donn:teen drama?
Trey Gerrald:again,
Chelsey Donn:Game show
Trey Gerrald:never again, never again,
Chelsey Donn:drama, superhero,
Trey Gerrald:a GERD.
Chelsey Donn:lifetime musical theater.
Trey Gerrald:Never again.
Chelsey Donn:Well, I'll try.
Chelsey Donn:That was really good.
Chelsey Donn:We were both on it.
Chelsey Donn:I was on it with a flips.
Chelsey Donn:You were on it with the changes.
Chelsey Donn:Let's see what you did.
Chelsey Donn:I really think that that's a show first.
Chelsey Donn:Oh my God.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:I think we've burned the winner and I'm the co and I'm the competition.
Chelsey Donn:So that's saying something.
Trey Gerrald:I really, yeah, I think That probably is a show.
Trey Gerrald:First
Chelsey Donn:is a show.
Chelsey Donn:First try
Trey Gerrald:Cool.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Chelsey Donn:killer.
Trey Gerrald:Let's make it really a show first and you're going to beat me.
Trey Gerrald:All right, Chelsea, what is
Chelsey Donn:I got a long one, I think.
Chelsey Donn:All right.
Chelsey Donn:So my one star review is for a cloth three usable diaper.
Chelsey Donn:Yikes.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Chelsey Donn:It is from honest company.
Trey Gerrald:Uh, Jessica Alba.
Chelsey Donn:Hi, it is a one-star view.
Chelsey Donn:It does.
Chelsey Donn:It's just by verified purchaser, which I know is not as fun.
Chelsey Donn:The subject is no thank you.
Chelsey Donn:And the Review!
Chelsey Donn:is low quality, constantly leaking stiff, irritated skin overpriced.
Trey Gerrald:oh, that's not good.
Trey Gerrald:That is not
Chelsey Donn:it's not good though.
Chelsey Donn:That's a bad reusable.
Chelsey Donn:Yikes.
Chelsey Donn:All right, here we go.
Trey Gerrald:Are you ready to crown?
Chelsey Donn:I'm crowning.
Chelsey Donn:Let's do it.
Trey Gerrald:GO!.
VOICEOVER:Two,.
Trey Gerrald:Sports announcer
Chelsey Donn:Low quality,
Trey Gerrald:Yankee
Chelsey Donn:quality, constantly irritated skin, all the price.
Trey Gerrald:adult film,
Chelsey Donn:Oh, probably constantly leaking stiff, irritated skin overpriced it's okay.
Chelsey Donn:I did
Trey Gerrald:Five.
Trey Gerrald:That was
Chelsey Donn:I'm proud of that.
Chelsey Donn:But tray with nine queen, you are the big winner.
Chelsey Donn:It's like your birth twins.
Chelsey Donn:You did
Trey Gerrald:God.
Trey Gerrald:I, I beat Okta mom.
Chelsey Donn:Ah, you did nine G is low.
Chelsey Donn:We is
Trey Gerrald:Where's my TLC reality show.
Trey Gerrald:Give it to me.
VOICEOVER:Review That Review.
Chelsey Donn:All right.
Chelsey Donn:We are back from that record breaking game break.
Chelsey Donn:When it go, try still, can't get over that.
Chelsey Donn:When you have the one-star, let's hear the opposite side of this.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:So this is an interesting circumstance I do want to, before I begin, I
Trey Gerrald:was written three years ago, but they have updated the Review!
Trey Gerrald:two years ago.
Trey Gerrald:And for the sake of brevity, I'm not going to get into it, but the update
Trey Gerrald:Who has condensed the experience and just tells their point of view again, why it's a one-star
Chelsey Donn:So we're going to hear the.
Trey Gerrald:original.
Trey Gerrald:Yeah.
Trey Gerrald:So this is, um, under the account named Keegan.
Trey Gerrald:See it.
Trey Gerrald:as a one-star review for UCLA health birthplace Westwood.
Chelsey Donn:I mean,
Trey Gerrald:Here we go.
Trey Gerrald:It cannot be understated.
Trey Gerrald:How nightmarish my experience giving birth here was I came in to be induced after
Trey Gerrald:She clearly didn't bother doing that since the day I came in, they were over capacity.
Trey Gerrald:The doctor came in and asked me if I wanted to come back at different.
Trey Gerrald:I said my OB had scheduled me for 12, 12 and asked if they were quote too
Trey Gerrald:She assured me that no, at quote, how busy we are, won't affect the care you receive
Trey Gerrald:So they put me in a dingy little waiting room.
Trey Gerrald:This place advertises itself as having beautiful birthing rooms with soft lighting tubs.
Trey Gerrald:I never saw a room like that in my entire time here, I ended up being shunted
Trey Gerrald:I almost gave birth in a dirty little waiting room.
Trey Gerrald:See my story.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Trey Gerrald:After arriving for my scheduled induction at noon on 1212, I was finally given
Trey Gerrald:I was dilated to two centimeters already beforehand and 60% of faced five hours later.
Trey Gerrald:I was three centimeters and 80% of faced.
Trey Gerrald:So I had responded to the pill quite well.
Trey Gerrald:They inserted a second.
Trey Gerrald:My around 8:00 PM.
Trey Gerrald:By 11:00 PM.
Trey Gerrald:I was having quite painful contractions and asked about my epidural.
Trey Gerrald:They assured me I would be able to get one.
Trey Gerrald:One of the nurses suggested to the other, that I should be moved to the actual
Trey Gerrald:The other nurse Caroline said they were quote Two,.
Trey Gerrald:So they left me there for another hour while I had painful contractions.
Trey Gerrald:They could not give me an epidural until I was actually moved to labor and delivery.
Trey Gerrald:Finally around midnight, they came back and moved me to another waiting room.
Trey Gerrald:But at least this time, this one was in the labor and delivery area.
Trey Gerrald:So they would at least be able to start the epidural.
Trey Gerrald:By this point, my contractions were already two to three minutes apart and lasting for 60 seconds.
Trey Gerrald:They had not checked my cervix at all since they gave me that second misoprostol at 8:00 PM.
Trey Gerrald:So they had no idea how I was progressing and just guessed that it would still be awhile
Trey Gerrald:I sat through contractions every two minutes while they threaded the catheter for the
Trey Gerrald:This was excruciating by this time it was one.
Trey Gerrald:The walking epidural, I received simply did nothing.
Trey Gerrald:Meanwhile, my contractions were getting stronger and stronger.
Trey Gerrald:I was feeling pressure.
Trey Gerrald:And my rectum, I had the distinct feeling.
Trey Gerrald:The baby was coming.
Trey Gerrald:They had me hooked up to the T O C O contraction monitor.
Trey Gerrald:And even though I was yelling out loudly and pain every two minutes, because
Trey Gerrald:This is the truly unforgivable part.
Trey Gerrald:I told them the baby was coming.
Trey Gerrald:And so did my birth partner, parentheses my stepmother, a N I C U nurse.
Trey Gerrald:My step-mom went out and told them, Hey, her contractions are less than one
Trey Gerrald:I think the baby is coming and.
Trey Gerrald:The nurses at the nursing station, parentheses who had still not bothered to actually check
Trey Gerrald:I was screaming in pain for exactly a minute, every other minute, parentheses like, Yeah.
Trey Gerrald:A'.
Trey Gerrald:holes.
Trey Gerrald:I'm faking it through a question marks and the waiting room with my step-mom without nurses
Trey Gerrald:Finally my water broke.
Trey Gerrald:I thought I'd pissed myself.
Trey Gerrald:So I said, quote, I pissed myself.
Trey Gerrald:Finally, the nurse came in to change the pad underneath me.
Trey Gerrald:She lifted my gown and was like, Oh,
Trey Gerrald:that's the baby's head.
Trey Gerrald:It's like, yeah, bitch, I've been giving birth in here alone this whole time
Trey Gerrald:Believe me at that point, they finally moved me to what seem like basically an operating
Trey Gerrald:On 1213.
Trey Gerrald:I get that my labor was unusually fast, but these horrible nurses just didn't believe.
Trey Gerrald:That I was having contractions and worst still didn't bother to check.
Trey Gerrald:I was still never checked between the time I'd been three centimeters.
Trey Gerrald:And when I actually gave birth, I've moved all my care to a different hospital.
Trey Gerrald:Stay away from this place.
Trey Gerrald:It treats patients as cash cows and the nurses couldn't give a F K less about you.
Trey Gerrald:I will not be delivering my future babies.
Trey Gerrald:This place is a factory of nightmares.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:Keegan.
Trey Gerrald:it's a lengthy review, but I felt like it's very worth it
Trey Gerrald:And how excruciating this experience was for Keegan.
Chelsey Donn:I mean, listen, I sometimes feel a certain kind of way about a Review!
Chelsey Donn:that has a pro-life.
Chelsey Donn:Which this clearly did,
Trey Gerrald:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:but it really set the tone for what we were about to receive, because
Chelsey Donn:And then as we were going through the experience, I was like, this is a nightmare.
Chelsey Donn:That is a nightmare.
Chelsey Donn:Like this entire experience.
Chelsey Donn:It was a nightmare.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:I just want to make sure that I'm understanding this correctly.
Chelsey Donn:We know that we have to be induced.
Chelsey Donn:So we make this appointment.
Chelsey Donn:We specifically request like a queen that were there during a time where it's less busy.
Chelsey Donn:We get there and it is busy, but we're kind of told it's, it's going to be fine.
Chelsey Donn:You're going to receive the same level of care.
Chelsey Donn:And then we start getting treatment in the waiting room.
Trey Gerrald:Yeah, I understand that there's variables here because it is sort of like,
Trey Gerrald:And so you have the wherewithal to say, is it a little too busy because it was scheduled.
Trey Gerrald:So if it's overwhelming, let's pick another time and you're confirmed.
Trey Gerrald:That you will not be impacted by the level of mania going on.
Trey Gerrald:You can't say like, oh, you might have a better experience if you come back.
Trey Gerrald:later.
Trey Gerrald:But it's also like, this is literally life and death.
Trey Gerrald:So don't give me a nicety, be honest, like
Chelsey Donn:right.
Chelsey Donn:I mean, yeah.
Chelsey Donn:I mean, that is something that I want, like, why is the OB not on the phone?
Chelsey Donn:Maybe the OB is like delivering another baby or something.
Chelsey Donn:This is the point where I feel like the OB needs to be intervening, where I feel like Dr.
Chelsey Donn:Aparna really seemed like she was a huge part of this process.
Chelsey Donn:Where is this OB?
Chelsey Donn:This sort of reminds me of my own birth story in a way, which I'll tell on Patrion.
Chelsey Donn:I mean, of me being born, but okay.
Chelsey Donn:We're, we're being medicated in the waiting.
Chelsey Donn:That just seems dangerous.
Trey Gerrald:correct.
Chelsey Donn:like doing a campfire outside and being like, you know what?
Chelsey Donn:This is going to start the fire inside.
Chelsey Donn:Why not?
Chelsey Donn:I'll get the
Trey Gerrald:carry the fire out,
Chelsey Donn:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:I'll carry the fire out to the, to the flame with me.
Chelsey Donn:Like that is crazy,
Trey Gerrald:well, I do think that part of it is like bodies react differently.
Trey Gerrald:So they I'm imagining that we're like this could take three hours.
Chelsey Donn:even so does not feel like playing with.
Trey Gerrald:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:Also she's there with a NICU nurse.
Chelsey Donn:How did he
Trey Gerrald:does that mean,
Chelsey Donn:neonatal intensive care unit?
Chelsey Donn:That's for my, I only know this because like one of my best friends, staff is a neonatologist,
Chelsey Donn:But anyway, so this person is around difficult and time sensitive birds all the time.
Chelsey Donn:So I I'm like wondering how we even got to this point.
Trey Gerrald:I think that's a really great point.
Trey Gerrald:because I didn't know what an ICU stood for.
Trey Gerrald:I think that you just literally ended this whole episode for me because it's
Trey Gerrald:And I think it's incredibly trustworthy.
Trey Gerrald:I believe it, but I think the fact that like your, with your step-mom, who is the HBI, see,
Chelsey Donn:Right.
Chelsey Donn:She's not the HPAC, she's a nurse, but still like you're with someone that has.
Trey Gerrald:is high stress birthing
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:And the nurses in these environments are like very critical.
Chelsey Donn:Like, yeah.
Chelsey Donn:Sometimes there's only one neonatologist on staff, so we really need all NICU nurses on board.
Trey Gerrald:Well, but that's my point is like so much in life.
Trey Gerrald:It's about who, you know, so you bring this person with you instead of your life partner.
Trey Gerrald:So you would anticipate that that would be communicated and you would most likely
Trey Gerrald:So they know when you're coming.
Trey Gerrald:You know?
Trey Gerrald:So like the fact that this experience occurred and you were accompanied by a nickname.
Trey Gerrald:As I say that, right.
Chelsey Donn:NICU,
Trey Gerrald:like outrageous, horrifying.
Trey Gerrald:The fact that the head was crowning.
Chelsey Donn:God.
Trey Gerrald:Also, I think it's a complete deal breaker for me.
Trey Gerrald:The fact that they never checked.
Trey Gerrald:Are you out of your fucking mind?
Trey Gerrald:Like you could not only kill the baby.
Trey Gerrald:You could kill the mother, like argue out and I recognize maybe they're over capacity.
Trey Gerrald:They're under, it's like too many plates
Chelsey Donn:too bad.
Trey Gerrald:Right.
Trey Gerrald:too bad.
Trey Gerrald:That's the job.
Trey Gerrald:This must happen all the time.
Trey Gerrald:Like, I don't think this is a F I don't think this is going to be fluke.
Trey Gerrald:You can't predict when a baby is going to decide to go into labor.
Trey Gerrald:If it is scheduled and you can't accommodate it, there has to be a contingency plan.
Trey Gerrald:It is completely unacceptable.
Chelsey Donn:Oh, yes, because if I read this Review!, this would be very near a
Trey Gerrald:I'm wondering if Keegan got inseminated on Valentine's day
Trey Gerrald:And maybe Alexander, oh, God inseminated.
Trey Gerrald:Not on a sexy holiday.
Trey Gerrald:You know, there are seasons.
Chelsey Donn:couldn't do the math in my head, but I was like,
Trey Gerrald:know what that is,
Chelsey Donn:is is December 10th, 11th, whatever.
Chelsey Donn:This was a
Trey Gerrald:But I just also, conversely, want to say here, like as much as possibly Alexander.
Trey Gerrald:Oh, got lucky.
Trey Gerrald:I'm wondering if also Keegan got unlucky.
Trey Gerrald:because it is sort of.
Trey Gerrald:I don't think that this is necessarily a fluke.
Trey Gerrald:I think it is a variable you're going to be dealing with constantly, but like,
Trey Gerrald:I'm think I'm, at the, let's go through the points.
Trey Gerrald:Spelling and grammar is pretty great.
Trey Gerrald:It did say Shunti.
Trey Gerrald:I was shunted around.
Trey Gerrald:I don't know what that means.
Chelsey Donn:That's a word shunt.
Chelsey Donn:It is like, I think it's like ignored.
Trey Gerrald:Okay.
Trey Gerrald:So then, okay, so then vocabulary words for me.
Trey Gerrald:I believe them.
Trey Gerrald:I don't think they're being shady, no humor, but I was thoroughly entertained
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:I was completely swayed by this review in all the ways outside.
Trey Gerrald:before we crown, I want to say like I do wish that they had mentioned to the OB was by
Chelsey Donn:I do tail.
Trey Gerrald:I also would love to know the nurses names.
Chelsey Donn:There is blame to be placed,
Trey Gerrald:I bet they chose not to mention that.
Trey Gerrald:So, you know, maybe that was a conscious choice because of their morals and ethics.
Trey Gerrald:So I don't know how we'll see how that plays into the crowding, but I think I can do it.
Trey Gerrald:You.
Chelsey Donn:I can do it.
Chelsey Donn:Let's do it.
VOICEOVER:The Queens are Tabulating.
Chelsey Donn:Oh, wow.
Chelsey Donn:Interesting.
Chelsey Donn:Wow.
Chelsey Donn:Okay.
Chelsey Donn:So I'm holding a four and a half crowns again, trays holding up five crowns.
Chelsey Donn:So I did it four and a half crowns, cause I thought I was equally
Chelsey Donn:And then if I was going to give Alexandra oh four and a half, I had to do the same for
Chelsey Donn:Bye.
Chelsey Donn:Alexandra's Review!
Chelsey Donn:I felt horrified by Keegan's Review!
Chelsey Donn:and I will say the thing that I'm giving Keegan the most credit for that, like
Chelsey Donn:They said, I don't want to be there at a time when it's crowded.
Chelsey Donn:When they got there, they said, I will come back another time to be induced.
Chelsey Donn:If it's crowded, they really like saw the writing on the wall before they even went down this road.
Chelsey Donn:Maybe they, you know, read the Alexandra owes and we're like, all right, I just need
Chelsey Donn:And even with all that due diligence, it still was a complete and utter nightmare.
Chelsey Donn:I didn't give the five because I was scared.
Chelsey Donn:I was not laughing at all.
Chelsey Donn:It was not a humorous and.
Chelsey Donn:I dunno, that's why I didn't go for the full five, but you went for a Review Queen for Keegan.
Chelsey Donn:So let us know why you thought that Keegan was a review queen.
Trey Gerrald:I gave Keegan a Review Queen because I think the impact here, the, the
Trey Gerrald:Like that's insane.
Trey Gerrald:And the fact that the.
Trey Gerrald:Birthing partner who happened to be An,
Trey Gerrald:expert in the field, had to run and chase people down and say like the
Trey Gerrald:And like, instead of looking at the mind, it's just too much.
Trey Gerrald:And I appreciate the length.
Trey Gerrald:I hate long reviews.
Trey Gerrald:I think it's incredibly worth it for this experience.
Trey Gerrald:The preface.
Trey Gerrald:I agree.
Trey Gerrald:Maybe it could have been a paragraph shorter, but it drew me in.
Trey Gerrald:And then also that a year later, The partner that, who we know.
Trey Gerrald:now as a NICU nurse wrote a summary, they're really trying to protect
Trey Gerrald:Queenie that like I gave Keegan the five crowns because I just think it's a horrible experience.
Trey Gerrald:I believe them.
Trey Gerrald:This is just horrible.
Chelsey Donn:I Google what a nightmare nightmarish
Trey Gerrald:It's it's so odd to give someone a Review Queen status and feel so upset.
Trey Gerrald:You know, it's usually a very funny light, but I think the impact here is so strong.
Chelsey Donn:I'm extremely upset about this experience for Keegan.
Trey Gerrald:So there we
Trey Gerrald:are.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you for sharing.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you both for sharing, you know, as per usual, with these one in five
Chelsey Donn:I don't know.
Chelsey Donn:All I can say is that people have different experiences and 3.5 feels like an adequate
Chelsey Donn:Reviews that are as equally good as nightmarish.
Trey Gerrald:I know.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:Well,
Chelsey Donn:just decided to call
Trey Gerrald:was that literally her
Chelsey Donn:That was literally my mother.
Chelsey Donn:So there you go.
Chelsey Donn:Happy mother's day.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:queen, we have reached the most Regal portion of our show.
Trey Gerrald:Chelsey, who are you and ducting today for?
Chelsey Donn:So I don't think it's going to take a rocket scientist to
Chelsey Donn:It is mother's day.
Chelsey Donn:So let's go ahead and just do it.
Chelsey Donn:I'm going to induct all the moms, all the mothers, and I'm going to include
Chelsey Donn:If you're a dog, mom, you get included today.
Chelsey Donn:So.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you moms.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you, dog moms.
Chelsey Donn:I feel like, you know, listen, it's hard for me to be a dog mom.
Chelsey Donn:I can only imagine what it's like to be a real life mom and be responsible for, uh, child and
Trey Gerrald:Totally.
Chelsey Donn:I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank all the mothers out there.
Chelsey Donn:Thank my mother.
Chelsey Donn:Who's called me twice during this recording.
Chelsey Donn:Trey, his mom for birding, such a beautiful baby boy, uh, Mandy for her beautiful children, my
Chelsey Donn:Thank you.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you for all that you contribute and all of the under valued contributions that you make.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you.
Chelsey Donn:You are My Royal.
Trey Gerrald:Absolutely so much of life unfolds when you become a mother about the things that
Trey Gerrald:So,
Chelsey Donn:That's true.
Chelsey Donn:We usually just think about all the ways that we've been.
Trey Gerrald:right.
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:Exactly.
Trey Gerrald:All right, Chelsey, do we have time for a Royal Review!
Trey Gerrald:today?
Chelsey Donn:Of course.
Trey Gerrald:Uh, because the, any review for our show is a Royal Review!.
Trey Gerrald:But today we have one from raising hell you're on apple podcast.
Trey Gerrald:Raising Hellyer rights.
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Trey Gerrald:Review!
Trey Gerrald:perusal SIRS as one half of another review based podcast.
Trey Gerrald:I love hearing another duo that not only knows how to do it right, but
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Trey Gerrald:party.com running bits like San Tino's cherries really make you feel
Trey Gerrald:And they're supercalifragilistic term for Amazon's SEO.
Trey Gerrald:Hypercharged 50 word, product names is so smart.
Trey Gerrald:I wish I'd thought of it.
Trey Gerrald:Keep it up Queens.
Trey Gerrald:Ah, that's so nice.
Chelsey Donn:hell you're.
Chelsey Donn:That means so much to me that you pick up on this anti you know of it all.
Chelsey Donn:N just knowing that somebody else's tickled Noven intended by the Sandino's cherries of
Chelsey Donn:And as I will say, fellow Review!
Chelsey Donn:Queens over
Trey Gerrald:literally.
Chelsey Donn:humbled, humbled by your praise of our show.
Chelsey Donn:And so appreciate it.
Trey Gerrald:Yeah.
Chelsey Donn:Thank
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Trey Gerrald:party.com has been in the game a lot longer than us.
Trey Gerrald:And so I really appreciate the fact that they have welcomed us and are
Trey Gerrald:some things brewing in the future with Review!
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Trey Gerrald:In the meantime,
Chelsey Donn:Yes.
Chelsey Donn:As you guys know reviews, help new listeners find us.
Chelsey Donn:And so we are so appreciative.
Chelsey Donn:Anytime anyone who's listening to the show leaves us a review, especially a five-star Royal reveal.
Chelsey Donn:If you want a chance to be featured and have your review read on the show, you can make
Trey Gerrald:That's right.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you Queens.
Chelsey Donn:And thank you raising Hellyer.
Chelsey Donn:We appreciate that.
Trey Gerrald:All right.
Trey Gerrald:We did it.
Trey Gerrald:Quain that.
Trey Gerrald:is another round on the R U a R Q baby-making Ferris wheel.
Chelsey Donn:Thank you for joining us today.
Chelsey Donn:It was like, I was going to say it was nine months, nine months worth of drama.
Chelsey Donn:Um, so thank you for joining us for that wild ride.
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Chelsey Donn:feel like I needed an epidural after that episode because
Trey Gerrald:Where's my.
Chelsey Donn:Oblong, Ghada, no doula.
Trey Gerrald:Doula.
Trey Gerrald:What's an ADU UB doula.
Trey Gerrald:OBGYN gala.
Trey Gerrald:What is that?
Trey Gerrald:Why do I know.
Trey Gerrald:What is,
Chelsey Donn:it in water.
Chelsey Donn:Boy, I think medulla, oblongata.
Chelsey Donn:I think it's a
Trey Gerrald:Is that a lyric?
Chelsey Donn:think it's the part of your brain.
Trey Gerrald:the Macarena
Chelsey Donn:It's the lowest part of the brain and the lowest portion of the brain stem.
Trey Gerrald:Marema abogada what is that?
Trey Gerrald:don't get on it jumbo or it got to a Mr.
Trey Gerrald:Robot.
Chelsey Donn:Oh, that's another song.
Chelsey Donn:I don't know.