So Starbucks new CEO Brian Nickel wants to make Starbucks a coffee shop again, but also a faster one, according to Restaurant Business Online.
Speaker ANickel, in his first earnings call at the helm of the Seattle based chain last Wednesday, described a strategy that effectively makes the company a coffee shop again, with comfortable seating and ceramic mugs for those who want to spend some time inside, much like they had for most of the chain's history.
Speaker ABut the company will also be quicker for those customers who have no intent on sitting anywhere but their office chair or their automobile.
Speaker ANikol wants every customer to get their drink within four minutes of ordering, a goal the company currently meets only half the time.
Speaker AIt's wild he's intent on achieving that goal.
Speaker ANicole mentioned four minutes 13 times on the earnings call, even going so far as saying, quote, I'm putting a full court press on solving four minutes, end quote.
Speaker AStarbucks also announced on the earnings call that it plans to stop charging customers who order non dairy beverage modifiers for their drinks, such as oat milk or almond milk, and that it plans to bring back the condiment bars were that were a casualty of the pandemic, which will help speed service because baristas will be able to simply hand customers their coffees right at the point of sale.
Speaker AWhile removing those charges for the non dairy milk will cost the company some revenue.
Speaker ANickel believes that allowing customers to add their own almond milk will improve through throughput and help traffic in the long run.
Speaker AAnd customers will probably like what amounts to be a 10% discount on their drink now.
Speaker AChris.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AWhere do we start?
Speaker BAD oh my God.
Speaker AThis is also the A and M put you on the spot question.
Speaker AOh, geez, I forgot about that.
Speaker BWe don't have that yet.
Speaker BOh, God.
Speaker AOkay, okay.
Speaker BLot of rose.
Speaker ALots of questions here.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker BOh my God.
Speaker AAll right, all right.
Speaker ASo A and M wants to know.
Speaker AThis is their question for you.
Speaker AWe discussed the CEO transition and what Starbucks should do next with you guys on the Fast five.
Speaker AWhen it was announced and we hosted a few months ago on that podcast, we said that Starbucks needed to get back to improving the poor speed of service and long waits, reset the right price value on products, and focus on fundamental Starbucks experience for those who sit in stores.
Speaker ASo the question A and M has is, was Brian listening to all of us all along and did he steal our suggested playbook?
Speaker AChris, the floor is yours.
Speaker BOh, my God.
Speaker BWhat do we like to think so af.
Speaker BWhat do we like to think so.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BI mean, chances are no.
Speaker BBut maybe, you know, maybe.
Speaker BMaybe somebody was inspired inside his organization to help him put this plan together.
Speaker BBut I mean, Anne, I don't know about you, I don't know if you're buying this or not, because I'm curious because you, you kind of, I think in that same discussion went the complete different direction.
Speaker BSo I'm curious to see what you think.
Speaker BBut, but I'm not buying a first class ticket on this new turnaround train plan.
Speaker BBut I'm definitely, I'm definitely happy to sit and coach along this journey right now.
Speaker BI'm definitely happy.
Speaker BI mean, I love the creamers in the condiment bar move.
Speaker BThat is a win win for me, both for the customers and for staff operations.
Speaker BI think it does everything they say it's going to do.
Speaker BI love the focus on four minutes because that is personally my biggest, biggest gripe, particularly when I go into the store to order and it has taken me sometimes 20 minutes to get my drink and that is just too freaking long.
Speaker BNow how you do that algorithmically is a big question.
Speaker BI don't even know if it's possible given how many mobile orders you got going through the system.
Speaker BThe part that I'm most like kind of leery about though, is the ceramic mug thing because that actually requires a pretty sizable operational change.
Speaker BYou have to collect them, you have to get them washed, you have to keep them in stock.
Speaker ABut you can do that now at Starbucks if you want.
Speaker AYou can get a ceramic mug from Starbucks?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd how many people really were like.
Speaker BOh, I didn't know you can do that.
Speaker AOh, I think that's just like a.
Speaker AI think that's like a PR sizzle thing.
Speaker AI don't think.
Speaker BYes, 100%.
Speaker BAnd that's why I was going to say I'm leery of it.
Speaker BBut when I think about it, it's a marketing investment that could potentially be offset by reducing the marketing budget in other places.
Speaker BSo by that I mean instead of advertising Starbucks as the third place, just make it the third place and the story sells itself.
Speaker BSo that's why I think it's kind of genius, especially if you can.
Speaker BI didn't even know you could already do that.
Speaker BSo then the operational dynamics probably are a lot less than I was expecting.
Speaker BAlthough I imagine there is some increased cost or operational effect to this.
Speaker ABut yeah, if people do it, I mean, that's the thing too.
Speaker ALike, I think this is so overblown of like.
Speaker BWell, you can, you could, you could force the question though, at the cashier.
Speaker BWould you like that in a ceramic cup or would you like that in a takeaway?
Speaker BCup.
Speaker BAnd, and you know what?
Speaker BIf I'm sitting there, I'm getting a ceramic cup.
Speaker BYeah, for sure.
Speaker BI think I am.
Speaker AYou should, you should do that now.
Speaker BA hundred percent.
Speaker BA hundred.
Speaker BBecause my coffee tastes better in ceramics and everyone knows that.
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker BAll right, but what do you think?
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker BAre you going to throw shade on Mr.
Speaker BNichol or are you going to jump on board this gravy train?
Speaker BWhat do you think?
Speaker AListen, Brian Nichols for president, like that really has somehow found out.
Speaker AWell, I mean, look at what he's done.
Speaker AHe's taken, you and I, we are on opposing sides of this argument and he's giving everybody a little bit of what they want, from the baristas to the customers.
Speaker ALike somehow you get your coffee house experience when you want it.
Speaker ALike everybody's going to be, everybody's lives are going to be better because those, the Starbucks are going to be hopefully nicer.
Speaker AAnd if they're really investing in this like coffee house experience, I get my drink made in less than four minutes, which is all that I want.
Speaker AI want faster operations.
Speaker AI want to get that drink as quickly as possible with as few hands touching it as possible.
Speaker AI just want the same consistent coffee all the time.
Speaker AAnd now dairy free customers get the 10% price reduction in their coffee.
Speaker ALike, this is amazing.
Speaker AHe's doing everything for everyone.
Speaker AAnd I do think, like you were talking about earlier, like, does he have the chops or is it possible to really start to get that, get to that under four minute process?
Speaker AAnd the guys from Chipotle, like, he knows how to automate things and cut out things that are not working or that are holding up the system.
Speaker ASo I, I think that we'll, we'll see a lot of great things come if, if they can be successful in, in really giving every single person what they want in this situation.
Speaker AI don't care if you want, you can hang out at the Starbucks all you want.
Speaker AI just want my coffee fast.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd he, yeah, and he's already doing the four minute thing because making the customers pour in their own, you know, you know, dairy or dairy substitutes at the condiment bar, that definitely is going to speed up the process too as well.
Speaker BAlso there's a couple other points that I love.
Speaker BThe four minutes thing, just as a leadership thing, it's easy to rally around.
Speaker BIt's, it's an easy metric to get everyone behind and it makes sense.
Speaker BSo that from a leadership standpoint is really cool.
Speaker BAnd the other point too, he's also, we, we didn't talk about this in the headline, but he, he's, he simplified the product line.
Speaker BHe got rid of the rumored to be dysentery driving oleato line.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo, like, yeah, that, that's now gone.
Speaker BAnd, and I don't miss that.
Speaker BI don't know about you, but I don't miss it.
Speaker BAnd so, especially given those rumors.
Speaker BSo, like, you know, I think that makes sense.
Speaker BAnd then I wonder what further, you know, menu reductions are going to come out of this too, down the, down the road.
Speaker BSo, so you're in, you're, you're liking this?
Speaker AYeah, no, I think he did it.
Speaker AI think he's doing a great job.
Speaker AI think, I think he's coming in and doing exactly what he should be doing and what they brought him into to do.
Speaker AReally.
Speaker ALike, they, they, there's a reason they took him.
Speaker AAnd they're taking more people from Chipotle too, to kind of take the turnaround that that team was able to do for Chipotle and start doing it for Starbucks because they need it.
Speaker AEspecially when you start talking about markets outside the U.S.
Speaker Alike China, where they're just getting killed by Luckin Coffee and some of these other players that are coming in now to the US too.
Speaker ASo they gotta get, they gotta get their, their poop in a group, you.
Speaker BKnow, and, and the Olly Auto thing is a signal too, from a leadership standpoint, because that was Howard Schultz's baby.
Speaker BAnd he's basically like, nope, we're done.
Speaker BWe're not doing that anymore.
Speaker BI don't care.
Speaker BAnd so that's, that's cool.
Speaker BI like it.
Speaker BI like it.
Speaker BAll right, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker BCould be a big fanboy coming up here, Anne.
Speaker AHe could be CEO of the year.
Speaker ADoug McMillan.
Speaker AYou may.
Speaker BNo, never, Never, never, never.
Speaker BThat's never happening.
Speaker BAnd that's never going to happen.
Speaker BNever going to happen in my book, Anne.
Speaker AOkay, all right.