Hey, I'm Paige Killian, founder and CEO of everything

with style.

I've built a business helping busy moms of littles get

organized in three simple steps. Like many of my clients, I love

being a mom. And I also desire more. If you've ever felt that

stirring in your heart, that whisper or really loud voice

that keeps you up at night, then you are in the right place.

Because this is not a solo mission. Whether you're a little

curious or totally ready to be a mom, boss and use your God given

gifts to serve others step into your calling, turn your passions

into purpose, and still make it to the carpool line on time,

then girlfriend, it's time to pivot. I've got you now let's

get started.

Hey, there, thanks for joining me for another episode of the

time to pivot podcast. I am so excited to have a guest on

today, who is a lot of things to me. She is my dear friend, a

bestie. Honestly, it has been years that we've now known and

worked together. And she is also my business, go to coach, she is

the person that has been around with me for so long. In the

early days when I even was trying to figure out how do I go

from being teacher slash mom and turn that into an actual

business where I take my entrepreneurial skills and my

love of organization and turn that into a business. And she

also helped me create the three E's philosophy actually named

those three E's. And so I knew that when we started this new

podcast, we absolutely had to have her on to share her wisdom.

So without further ado, hello, Kelly Moga. Hey, Paige Killian,

I am so excited to be here today I am beyond thrilled that you

have launched this new podcast time to pivot. Amazing, amazing.

And it's really, as someone who's known you for so long and

have seen you transitioning through what it is you want to

create the impact you want to create. It's really been fun to

watch like the light bulbs come on that trusting what God has

planned for you to like, you know, illuminate. And this

podcast is. Boy, you're and I am so excited. So thank you for

having me. Congratulations on this pivot, if you will. Yes,

yeah. And I'm so happy to be here and be able to share some

things with with your listeners. Thank you. Thank you. I'm, I'm

honored. I appreciate you so much. So let me first start off

with saying that Kelly and I knew each other years ago from a

business that we were working on, and then we became fast

friends, it took us you know, it was like an instantaneous

connection. And a lot of that has to do with the fact that

we're both working moms, I would love for you to share a little

bit about two things. One, who you are, tell us a little bit

about your family, and also how you got into this coaching role

this career that you have. Oh, yeah, talk about a time to

pivot. Wow. Right. I'm happy. Yeah, I'm happy to. So I'll

start with the first part like who I am today. I am telling

Lobeck. I own a coaching and training company, Kelly JMO back

coaching, I was really focusing on leadership coaching, taking

the lead in your life. And the ways that I do that is either

through group coaching, that is primarily for women leaders. And

then number two, I also have one on one coaching. And I also have

customized leadership training. So those are really like the

three ways that I'm able to create that impact. Oh, I also

do workshops and challenges because I can't help myself,

right. And all of them. I love them so much. They are really so

encouraging. I feel like anytime I'm about to make another pivot

or transition in my life, yeah, it somehow always coincides with

when you are doing a free training a workshop a challenge.

And I am just like, well, thank you, Lord for dropping goodness

right at the right moment. You know how he does it. So yeah, so

those are absolutely fantastic. And I will make sure that in the

show notes as we talk a little bit more today about taking the

lead in your life, that if you guys are interested in working

with Kelly and you absolutely should. Then you can check out

where she is online and figure out if some of her services are

right for you. So that's what you're doing.

your career and your work life. Tell us a little bit about you

as a mom. So I am what you would call an empty nester. So I have

gone through many of the stages of motherhood, but not all of

them. Right. And so I have, I have three boys. I have a

stepson who is a grown adult that has children have children

of his home, my granddaughters, I have two granddaughters. And

then I have my son, Brad, who is 25. And he's in his third year

of dental school. He is currently my dentist. So talk

about, like, it's so interesting, the role shift

there. Right. So that's really fun. And then my youngest son,

Chris is just about to graduate from undergrad in New York. And

so and then he'll be traveling back to California don't even

think I don't have the most giant hugs and like mama bear.

Come on back. Right. So and he's got some plans, he's got some

really cool plans, and I'm excited for him in his next

level. So that's, that's currently where I am, you know,

in, in, in motherhood, and it's interesting, it really is

interesting, because we're still moms, right. And we still have

all the mom things that go on, but the relationship is

different, right? You know, just like it is through all the

different stages. So it's really, it's really, really

sweet to be able to be their mom, and also like a confidant

as they're making decisions. And, you know, now they kind of

were like, Hey, Mom, would you put that coach hat on for a few

minutes for me? Whereas when they were younger, they're like,

I don't think so. So, yeah, it's really interesting. Did that

answer your question? Absolutely. And the reason I

wanted you to share that is because there have been a lot of

times for me, as a business owner, that my mom life has

played a big part in why I'm choosing to pursue certain

things. But why I feel like my purpose has to do with working

with women with working with moms, because I get what they're

going through. And a lot of our relationship is not only us

talking about business stuff, and what those next pivots look

like for me, but also I come to you quite a bit for mom advice,

and what should I do with my kids at this stage? And how did

this work for you? And so I wanted you to share that as

well. Because I feel like if you're listening today, and you

are a parent, and you are trying to decide, am I going to do this

business thing am I going to take these gifts that I've been

given, even if I'm nervous, even if there's mom guilt, about

pursuing those, because I've talked about those kill on

episodes before now. And I just want you to know that it is

possible to do both be both show up really strongly as both. And

it's something that Kelly taught me years ago, and I actually

when I was the the speaker, coordinator at mops, she I had

her come in, and she taught to the moms about that struggle

with the work life balance. And she taught me something years

ago, which is that, you know, balance is really something that

doesn't totally exist. And so when you're a parent, when

you're a business owner, sometimes it gets really messy

if we're trying to show up and be our best selves in both

categories. I mean, not even to mention, like social life, and,

you know, maybe your relationship with your spouse

and your marriage or whatever. It's hard to show up as a fully

balanced person at all times. And so Kelly has always taught

me instead of shooting for balance, can that because that

could definitely be unattainable, sometimes shoot

for harmony. And so that's something I've always loved. I'm

going to actually pop one of her episodes, she's been on the moms

organization motivation podcast twice, and I'm gonna pop those

episode, links in show notes. If you guys are interested, if you

feel like you're struggling with balance in your life, that one

was really a game changer for me. So I'm gonna put that one

in. And I also just want to make sure that today we talk about if

we are deciding

go and lean into that calling what God has called us to do and

really just taking comfort in knowing that if he is calling us

to do something we are capable of doing that. Then I want you

to speak today a lot Kelly about taking the lead in our life.

What does it look like to be a leader in our lives? And talk to

us about like, what if you are an introvert What if you're not

an extrovert? What if you feel like yeah, maybe God is calling

me to do some things but I don't know if I can be on a podcast. I

don't know if I can be

On stage, I don't know if I can write a book and share these

thoughts with people why? I don't know if I can do those

things. Tell us what it looks like at any level, wherever we

are like to take the lead in our lives. So, so great. And I would

say that whether you're an introvert or an extrovert,

honestly, those don't get to be a part of it. Right? So like,

perhaps maybe remove it. Most people think I'm an extrovert.

I'm actually an introvert, who has learned to be outgoing. And

you know, I vacillate in between the two. And what I want you to

know is you can do what you can, you can, I've said this to page

millions of times, you can have it all, you just can't have it

all. At the same time. However, don't let that stop you from

when you have that calling, and it is on your heart. And y'all

know what that feels like. You can't ignore it, it's going to

wake you up at night. You know, and thinking about what Paige

has shared with you all that you are capable, it would not be on

your heart, if you were not capable, right, the pages talked

about. And so what that just means is that okay, here we go.

It is my time to take the lead in my life. And what I mean by

that is this, you can live your life by circumstance, right? And

circumstance can often be, well, I'd love to start this business.

But I'm really busy being a mom, I would love to start this

podcast, however, what you know, like maybe I don't have a

platform, yet a platform could be a circumstance being a mom, I

don't love to hold that in the category of circumstance. But

moms come on, we all know that sometimes that gets held there,

right? It's a role that we play in our life. All right, it's a

really, I'll tell you, when I have not always been a coach my

entire career, I was in mortgage banking. And I was there for a

long time. Well, let's leave it there a long time. And I

literally thought like, that was the trajectory. That's where I

was going. And I was, you know, moving up that corporate ladder,

if you will, doing really well. And my children were little like

my children were born into banking, I like to say that my

kiddos were little, and I was so unfulfilled. I was not

unfulfilled by my kiddos. But like, personally, me as a human.

As a leader in my life, I was like something's missing. And I

don't know what it is. But I know that I'm not supposed to be

here. I'm supposed to be somewhere else. And I don't

know, I had no idea what that was. And I literally had a tap

on my shoulder that asked me and they, you know, I was

volunteering. And I was contributing to people in a

personal growth seminar. And somebody asked me, have you ever

thought about being a coach? And I was like, what is that? No

idea. Right? What? And so I didn't even really, this is odd

for me, because I usually will look in and I will go in

thoughtfully and purposefully, however, there was like, I

couldn't sleep at night thinking about, you mean, there's

something more out there, there's something more that I

could contribute to, okay. And I went, I went back to school, I

certified as a coach and I live I went back and I certified as a

facilitator and a lot of a lot of things in this area of

working with human beings. Now, I wish I could tell you that

that was easy, I did not have. Now I want to say this before I

say this, my husband really does support me in everything I do.

And he believes in me and the work that I do. Back then he was

like, what? You're gonna what? You're gonna go back to school,

we have little children, two year old and a five year old,

who just started kindergarten and you're, you're gonna go to

school now, can you please wait until they're like maybe in

middle school, or high school or out of school? Now? I have a

firm belief that leaders don't wait. They absolutely create.

And so it is completely against my values on waiting on

anything. So there was some work to do in creating agreements

with him. I didn't just go Yeah, I hear what you're saying. But

I'm going to do it anyway. But I knew it was where I was supposed

to go. And boy, am I glad I didn't wait. I am so glad I

didn't wait because you hear I still have one that's in

undergrad right now. I would just be getting started. Instead

of all this work that I've been able to do that. Absolutely.

There's not one day that I wake up and go. Yeah, I really wish I

didn't do this. I really wish I didn't get to work with people.

Oh, gosh, you know, I gotta go work. No, everyday. I'm like,

oh, what's happening today with the People's, you know what I

mean? And like, there's not a night that I don't go to bed and

say this was good.

work. Thank you, God, this was Good work today. This was Good

work today. And more gets revealed all along the way, all

along the way. So when I talk about taking the lead in your

life, what I mean by that is, we all have circumstances, I just

shared one with you. My husband was like, I don't think so. Can

you wait. And I just got to go back and really work with him in

conversation and create agreements on how this was going

to happen financially with my kiddos, you know, I wasn't

planning on like dropping any balls or anything like that. But

what I was planning on doing was creating some harmony in our

life that was going to look a little bit different. There was

no balance, believe me, but definitely some harmony and

switching things up. And we were just talking the other day, he's

like, I'm so glad you do what you do.

Yeah, wonderful. That's so encouraging to hear yes. Say

that. Yes, exactly, exactly. And I've been doing this for 20

years now. So I've heard that along the way. So taking the

lead means, you know, being able to listen to what God has in

store, trusting that you're capable, like Paige always says,

and then taking the action to move forward. Even if you're not

100% sure what that's going to look like. Because it's never

going to look exactly the way you think it's going to more

always gets revealed along the way. But really trusting

yourself and trusting what God has in store. And trusting the

impact that you are here to create, you get to be fulfilled

is what I want to say you get you in like, have. I'm moving

into 21 years of that, let's go. So great. I'm certainly fired

up. I'm also to really wanting to be right there with your

husband, Ken. I'm a big fan of Ken, I love him. I want to say

I'm so grateful that you did it. Because you've changed my life.

You've certainly changed my business. I didn't have a

business before I met you. We met that day in maybe was it

2015 I think we went to we had like breakfast and mimosas at

marmalade cafe. And I basically just shared. I feel like I love

being a mom. And I also feel so called to do something else. But

I don't know what that looks like hell, I really, I don't

know what to do. I want to contribute financially to take a

little pressure off my husband for doing every time. So right

now I'm staying at home, I don't feel like even though I loved

teaching, I don't feel like I'm supposed to go back to be an

elementary school teacher right now, I didn't know why I didn't

know what that meant. And that's why it was so important for me

to have you as a mentor and how it's our relationship has

evolved just in so many ways. And you are a best friend,

because it's such a vulnerable place when you go to somebody to

ask them for help, because you have to get really honest about

the place that you're in. And I've shared with you a lot of

struggles, a lot of concerns. I would love for you. Could you

talk a little bit more if, if our listeners are hearing that

part about they might have a generally supportive person,

whether it's a friend, a family member, a spouse, they might

have somebody in their life who is generally supportive and

loving, but maybe they just don't get it. So if we're being

called. And we feel okay, if we're being called to this and

we know that we're capable, and we're trusting God that you have

a plan. But how do we deal with the person if we're going to

take the lead in our lives? How do we deal with the person who

just doesn't quite see it yet? Tell me a little bit more about

creating agreements. What does that look like? What advice do

you have around that? Because that can be really delicate.

It's it's true. So even even when I'm working with someone

that's like, I really want to work with you, but I gotta check

in, you know, with my husband or partner and get their

permission. Hmm, that word right there is where I go, let's let

you know what Hold on just a sec, we're not done. Let's let's

flip that. Because you know what, here's the thing we think

we need to right and I get it like I went from making x amount

of dollars in banking, and it was, you know, I never say any

paychecks really guaranteed to be quite frank, but like it was

consistent, right too high. I'm gonna go ahead and start over.

Okay, so here's the thing. What you want to remember is that

it's not permission that you're going after you're going after

agreements and what agreements are it just means this is what

I'm absolutely going to contribute to our household to

the relationship to our children, whatever that is,

right that you have. And you might have some agreements from

the other person that you require. Right and what

What I mean by that is like, will you trust me? Will you

trust me, will you? I'll think of some more as we move on with

this. But I want you to get in that mindset frame that it's

permission and agreement are different permission means Can

I, please? Okay, great. And then you go on your way versus

agreement is, I always look at it like this, what is in it for

so I'll take the example of my husband, what's in it for him?

What's going to be in it for you? If I take this on, and it

was pretty clear. You can see right here in banking, I am

miserable. I am miserable. I have a two hour commute each

way. This was back then each way. So I leave when my kids are

asleep, and I come home just in time to give them baths.

What Bradley was working on homework in kindergarten, which,

you know, still blows my mind that day anyway, doesn't matter.

I digress. And like, let it sit down and have some dinner and

say our prayers and go to bed like I mean by the hair on my

chinny chin chin. And I didn't feel great about that. I just

don't feel great about that. And then I was tired. So I'm like, I

gotta go to bed because I have to get up at four in the morning

to get out of the house.

Man, that's crazy. Yeah, it was it was it was a lot. And so I

also know that I mean, this sounds cliche, we hear this all

the time. But I knew I was here for more I was I was made for

more, right? Like, I knew there was something more, that was

going to be much more in alignment with what God's plan

is for me. And so that meant that, like, here's what you can

count on me, for me can I'm going to work hard, I am still

going to show up as mom, I am going to have more time as mom.

Okay. I'm going to be the one when I start my own business

that is actually here, can pick up the kiddos from school, drop

them off. By the way, we don't have to think about who do we

call in to take them to sports because my boys loved baseball,

soccer, volleyball, you name it. That's where they want to be. I

got this. I got this. Right. And here's another possibility. What

will that open up for you in your career? I love Hey, so are

you what I'm trying to say? Here's I'm giving you my

example. But what you got to look at is like what is going to

be in it for them so that you can create an agreement? Sure. I

like you did like, I like to look at it this way. What am I

bringing to the table that I will agree and I think I hold

agreements as promises I do. And this is what you can count on

for me. And here's some here's, here's what I require, or I

request from you, and then you start working it out. But once

my husband was able to see a bigger picture that had some

bottom line to it, meaning, you know, I had to get really real

about what bottom line was and what starting over looked like

and what my goals would be financially contribution, all of

that once he could wrap his brain around it. Here's what I

want you to know, at the end of the day, your partner's your

husband, they want you to be happy. Yeah, they do. They

really do. And so that's that's how you create that. But if we

go for permission, then it's kind of like it's a different

thing. It's a different thing. And it's really hard to wrap

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I think that came if I could just drop this in page really

quick. Yes, please. Drop all the things and I'm here for

everything you're saying. I'm mentally taking all of these

notes. When I listen back to the episode take up the physical

notes, right? Sharing anything that's on your heart right now.

It's always simple. Thank you. I learned that from my mom. I did

because she this is something that I just remember sitting in.

I'm not going to tell you how. Okay, I will tell you I'm

feeling like six years old 56. So I grew up in a time where it

was a little bit different with moms and dads and my mom had

gone to school to become a registered nurse and she really

like she just wanted to do that so bad. And when I say this, I

want you all to know that my dad was a good man. He was a

wonderful man. He loves him very much. So this is gonna sound a

little harsh in today's world. But back then this was so

normal. He was like no, I mean she could go to school and learn

the learnings and all of that. But when it

came time to go do the thing and work at a hospital? He told her

no, and she didn't do it.

Very normal at that time, I want you all to know that I want you

to know that. But what what came from that, as my mom would

always say to me, don't ever let anybody tell you? No. And please

don't let a man tell you no, right? Like she just was. Yeah,

she was really like she was really meaning, you know, and

there was so much more to that story. And it all worked out

beautifully. But that's I think, where that became ingrained. And

it wasn't that I was going to be not honoring of my husband or

anything. I don't mean that at all. But like, let's look at a

bigger picture. Let's, let's, let's create some agreements.

And that's really where that came from. I love that so much.

Because you do put that ball in someone else's court as well,

you're not just saying, well, first of all, you're not giving

someone else the authority over your life, and you're not

allowing someone else. Whatever their response to what you want

to do is, you're not allowing someone else to dim your light.

Because if we are called to do something, like you said, and

I've said it so many times on these episodes is that we just

have this stirring, it is hard to ignore it is waking us up in

the night, while we're whatever running our kids to and from

school or going back and forth to our corporate office or, and

by the way, there's a place for corporate work. So there's there

is some. We're not saying don't ever do that. And don't ever do

banking, and don't ever do nursing, there are absolutely

places where you can use your gifts to serve in that capacity.

But if you're at that place where you feel like I am doing

this, or what I'm doing right now, isn't working. I really

love how you've talked about creating those agreements,

because that way you're almost moving forward. And it's not a

solo mission. It is if you've got a partner that you're doing

this with, and even I highly recommend chatting with your

children about it no matter what their ages are certainly older,

right? They can understand more. But you know, I have really

taken my children along this ride with me as well. And I can

remember Gosh, Cal I don't know if you I think I probably you're

probably one of the first people I sent this to when we had I'm

going to spell it instead of say in case you guys have one of

these in your room and a l e x a if you have one of your home.

And we had we had that was like the new cool thing. So we would

in our living yes, you could run it oh had one in our bedroom

because this particular day it was upstairs. I had to just

launch the moms organization motivation.

I didn't have a clue what was gonna happen. We were in the

beginning stages of lockdown as were you when you start by the

way everybody needs to listen to let's be honest, before we start

pretending that's Kelly's podcast. And she was like, what

a month behind me. We won't launch together. Yes, yes. Yeah,

yes, we sure did. And so, you know, just so funny because I

thought, oh, gosh, I'm going to do this. I don't know what I'm

doing. But I shared it with my husband and I shared it with my

kids and just said, Well, I was gonna start a podcast. Yeah,

I've done some research. This is where we're at. I'm excited. I

don't know what's gonna happen. But yeah, he is with me. And

they were very sweet and supportive, even though none of

us knew what was gonna happen. And we know we had no clue.

Right? We had no idea. We really just thought maybe only my mom

Teresa is going to be listening. But it turns out for both of us

kill it paid off really well to start your podcast and locked

down. Yes. So I remember the day that do with my little Duke. He

was probably like, oh, gosh, was like four or five at the time.

So what because he's eight now. And he said that name. But I

just said, Turn on mom's organization motivation podcast.

As a joke. He said it as a joke. You guys, this little five year

old says it as a joke. And boom, on. Yeah. And it connects to

Spotify. And you start hearing my intro music play and you

start hearing me go. Hi, I'm Paige Killian. I'm passionate

about helping a little. Yep. And he and I looked at each other.

And it was first of all, like the Twilight Zone. We were like,

yeah. And then second of all, we were like, Oh my gosh, yeah. Mom

said she was gonna do this thing. She did it scared. She

did. She was allergic to tech. And she had to hire Miss Lindsay

and Gould and podcast boutique. Come on and help her out. Thank

you. Thank you, thank you. She didn't know what she was doing.

But she felt this calling to start this podcast and do this

thing. Because she believed I'm saying she I mean me guys. I

mean,

I believed that there was something else I was meant to

do. I didn't know how Kelly taught me how to get out of how

I get stuck in the house. You better believe she starts with

the why she's like well, we're gonna focus on your wife.

We're gonna start talking about that first. Absolutely. Oh, you

know, I just I had that moment that realization when my child

who was five years old, was there to support mom in this big

scary thing that she was doing because she believes she was

called to do it. She didn't know how it was going to turn out.

Yep. And I love this idea that you're saying if we are choosing

to take the lead in our life, that doesn't mean we're asking

someone else who's wonderful and supportive of us. Yeah. And

maybe you're in a place where you don't have wonderful

support. Then listen, let me tell you right now, you need to

be a part of my community and Kelly's community because we

want to serve we want to absolutely, yeah, it'll give you

some love. Okay. But, you know, it's not about asking

permission, when you're being called to do something, you have

to be brave, and step into that and take the lead, even if

you're doing it scared. It's 100%. True. It's 100%. True. And

I love what you shared about Duke because that, that here's

the thing, the littles are watching, whether they're

little, they're tweens, their teens, their adult children,

they're watching. And some of the most proudest moments that

I've ever had in my life is when I got feedback from one of my

boys that said, You know what I saw you do that, like you're

saying, Paige, I saw you do that scared. I saw you like, say, I'm

gonna go, I'll never forget to same thing. When I started my

podcast, my younger son, Chris was like, Mom, you're literally

creating I don't even remember what he said. Because I was

like, not into the lingo, but it was some sort of footprint,

right? That was important. Okay, um, you know, and like, I'm so

proud of you, and I can't wait to see what shifts and what

happens in your business. Right? So I was like, okay, oh, you

know, and so they're watching, they're watching the in the, the

messages that you're sending out when you do what you're called

to do this fight how you feel about it. By the way, speaking

of feeling, I want you all to know, going for agreement,

creating that support doesn't mean that everybody likes it

just yet. And that's a good point. Anyway, do it anyway, do

it anyway. Even if they're not all totally on board. 100%

Please do it anyway. Because down the road, all of a sudden,

they're like, Wow, this is so awesome. When I first became a

coach, people thought I was insane. Why would you leave

something that stable?

Right, like and create, like a whole different business. Then

now they come back and go, Okay, we see it, we get it, right. So

don't worry about if people like it, you know, approve of it,

whatever it is, trust, trust, and be fit. And, like I lean

into faith all the time on these things all the time, and it will

be so worth it. It'll be so worth it. Whatever you're doing,

whether it's in your career, like Paige said, we're not

saying don't be incorporate because for some people, they're

like, that's my thing. Yeah, more thing. Absolutely. The

promotion, go for the things right. But do it, despite how

you think people feel about it. I love that you shared that

about your son too, because then you know what, I have forgotten

about this. And now I'm remembering that that was the

moment with my little Duke. That was a moment with your son.

Yeah. And then there was this time when Isabel, her teachers

had found out that I was doing podcasting. And actually the

school where my kids go, I was a teacher there. I was a second

grade teacher at that school. And so her teachers and these

were newer teachers, these were not teachers who were there when

I was a teacher there. So they knew me a little bit just as the

mom Isabel's mom. Sure. Yeah. And they found out that the moms

organization motivation, podcasts was the thing that that

had happened. And this was after we had come back that we were

back in the schools post pandemic, and the kids in fifth

grade they found out they were like let's have page because

they were going to start a podcast. Now obviously this was

not going to be broadcast to the world right little private

school here CRN, we're gonna do that safely. But, but the school

is all about making sure it's teaching the children different

opportunities, give them different opportunities to grow

and do things for them that I love that so they can use their

gifts as they grow, to serve and if that is an outlet, like a

podcast or and we're saying this because this is very familiar to

Kelly and to me right now, but apply that to whatever you're

working on. Absolutely. But they ended up asking me to come in

and talk about because they knew I did things in three simple

steps. How to start a podcast in three simple steps. I actually

went to her school and you guys my kid wasn't embarrassed of me.

She was beaming. She I walked in and then her girlfriends and

some of the guy friends too. They came into

talk to me afterwards. And I was able to be a mom was able to be

a person in business, specifically, in that case, a

podcaster. And I was able to do both as me as a mom and

business. Yes. And there just are these full circle moments,

she still tells me she's like, Oh, my gosh, Mom, my friends now

listen to your podcast. Amazing. Yeah, crazy. And then they will

tell their moms and their moms are like, Oh, my gosh, Alyssa,

you're organizing podcasts. And now I need you to come organize

my house. You know what I mean? So yeah, if we, if I went to my

husband before I started that, and I said, start a podcast is

that okay? If I do that, that is very different than the way I

approached it. And I went to my husband, and I said, Hey, God is

putting this thing on my heart. And you know, me, I am allergic

to tech. I don't know how to do this. I don't know what

microphone I need. I don't know, anything that has to do with

tech. Donnie is always the one that gets me all the things. So

I'm up to date, like I wouldn't have, I would still have my

Blackberry right now. Or a flip phone if it weren't.

Okay, in 2023. Well, I love that phone, you know, right and have

photos, if only you could take somebody which was not, that

wasn't even a real thing. So, you know, I just went to him.

And I said, I don't really know what I'm doing. I can't shake

this feeling that this is what I'm supposed to be doing. So.

And I think, you know, just, it was an unconscious thing that I

was doing, I didn't realize what I was doing. But I did do what

you're saying I created this agreement with him. And I said,

Look, I'm going to try this, if I'm going to try it for a year,

if it is just the worst, if it just really just crashes and

burns, I don't have to keep doing it. I want to give it a

year, I'm going to hire somebody, I am making enough

money in organizing that I can cover the cost of this. I want

to just try this. And I would love your support in that. I'm

still gonna be there to pick the kids up from carpool, I'm still

gonna be there to support you in the things you're doing. I'm

still you know, we'll still have some dinner doesn't mean I'm

cooking it but we're still

will be president we will Yes, you know, and he was like, okay,

yes. Let's see how it goes. You know, exactly. And it worked.

Yeah. Well, but seeing you were really specific. Okay, you were

really you were really, really specific in what was still going

to happen, what might not still happen, what you were creating,

where this was coming from that you see the difference? I love

the example page, because then he's like, okay, great, then

let's see where this goes. Right? Yeah. And it wasn't about

does he like it? It wasn't about but he supported you, right? You

know, a lot of times we wait for someone to come and support us

versus taking the lead and creating the opportunity for

people to step in and support. And that's exactly what you did

with him? Absolutely. Well, I think it's, I think it's

because, you know, you and I have just been doing this

together for so long, all of your good teachings have just

rubbed off on me. So naturally, I'm just doing these things that

you showed me how to do and taught me how to do over the

years. So, you know, I want to end on this, I would love

because I know all those things that you've shared with us,

moving through your life as a mom and as a business owner, I

would love for you to just share quickly. How you feel you have

really pivoted in your life. What is some advice when you've

hit these moments of transition? whether certain or uncertain of

what's going to come of it? What do you think is your advice or

if someone is at a place of transition, and they really know

they need to make this pivot and they're nervous or they're

scared or they're doubting themselves? Or you know,

whatever they feel like I'm an introvert and can I really take

the lead in my life? What's a piece of advice you might give

them for leaning into that and making that pivot in their life

with confidence? Absolutely. First and foremost, don't go it

alone. It's really like do not go in alone. Because here's the

thing again, whether we're introverts, extroverts, you

know, high achievers, medium and cheap, whatever. Like those are

all tendencies. Honestly, those are those are tendencies that we

have, it's not who we are. So don't go it alone. Don't keep it

to yourself. Don't keep it to yourself. Because here's what

happens when you keep it to yourself. You're gonna move

right to how, how am I going to do this? You heard Paige say

that earlier? And you will it'll stop you in your tracks. It'll

stop you in your tracks. So the thing is, is knowing here's

where my strengths are, here's things that I know. I'm and just

acknowledge and let me take just out, acknowledge it. Like I'm

really good at that. Or, like Paige says, I also say allergic

to tech. Great. I'm gonna get some help with that. Okay. Don't

go it alone. Talk to someone who you know

Oh, can help you, right? Sometimes that might look like

having like talking to someone who believes in you a little

more than you believe in yourself in the moment. So that

you then go okay, okay, good. I'm not insane. Like this was

really actually a good idea. And then what do I require to move

forward? Right? Where am I great. And I can move forward

there. Where do I require some help? My biggest advice is do

not go it alone, on all the different levels on all the

different levels, leaders know that they absolutely never

create a vision by themselves. It does not happen. It does not

happen without support a team of people and doesn't have to be a

large team, you know, but it means that I know that I have

this vision, I have this thing that I want to go create, and

leaders know they never do it by themselves. So don't go it

alone. That's my number one. Best advice. And I mean, come

on. That's like mic drop moment. Advice. I think you're

absolutely right. I love that. And I'm so grateful to you, I

have not gone this alone. I have come to you. Yeah, more times

than I can count. Well, and not just me page, you're really

here's the thing, like, Be resourceful paid, you're super

resourceful. So you, and you also are persistent. And those

are great qualities to have. Because you won't stop, you'll

keep going. And then you'll keep creating the thing, right? So I

want to acknowledge you in that because you know, why you want

to do it. And you know that it's going to create an impact. And

now let me be resourceful. Let me ask for help. Let me stay

persistent. Let me get the answers. Let me go. Let's go.

Well, thank you for that. Do you guys see why she's not only my

coach, but she's also my friend because the support is a 10 out

of 10 for sure you're off the charts, honestly. Wow. I love

and adore you. I love and adore you here for it. And you every

day. Yay. Thank you so much. You guys. I hope that this has been

helpful and encouraging for you, too. Don't let the fear or the

guilt or the permission slip from someone else get in the

way. It is time for you to take the lead in your life. If you

are called to do this, you are absolutely capable to do it and

get help for it. Yeah, don't go it alone. Hello, Kelly mobix

advice. Don't go it alone. I love that. Thank you so much,

Kelly. I'm sure I am positive that I will be asking you to

come back on and talk about more topics as they are so helpful

for me. I know they will be helpful for the listeners. So

thank you so much. You are an incredible mom boss Kelly

mailbag. I love you. And I think we're probably going to be due

pretty soon for a dinner hang out. Should we make those plans

after this? 100%. Let's do it. Let's do it. And thank you.

Thank you again for letting me come on and be with you be with

your listeners, I would jump back on your podcast any day to

so thank you for that. And I'm so excited for all of you as

more of pages episodes come out they are fire and they're going

to create so much value. So Paige, again, congratulations on

this pivot. It's fantastic. And thanks for having me. Of course.

Thanks so much, Kelly. And thank you all so much for listening.

And I hope that you will join us next week for more about how we

can pivot and lean into all of those feelings and we can do it

together because this is for sure not a solo mission. Thank

you all so much, and I will talk to you next week. Bye bye.

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