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>> Paula Sima: But raising me. Me and him were invited

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to another podcast together as a father daughter duo

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to talk about relationship and depression and

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even the fact that my dad also came out to me. I was like,

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I also deal with depression. And I go, so

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it was like, uh. And these are conversations you need to know. Like,

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our parents also have mental health struggles, but we

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we need to also be there for them in their mental

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struggles, just as they need to be there for us. Have

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those conversations with your people. You never know who's

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>> Anthony Weaver: Welcome back, everybody, to another exciting show of the

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about that Water podcast. I'm your host, Anthony

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Weaver, where we help the sandwich generation

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build strong financial habits. One of the people that I

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have on is somebody that's so energetic,

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has always a great smile, and

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has actually welcomed me into the podcast community.

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And I want to thank her so much, um, by

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bringing her on, um, and actually share her energy with

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you all. And her name is Paula Sema. How you doing today,

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Paula?

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>> Paula Sima: Good. Thank you so much for having

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me. You can't believe

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it. When you asked me to. To.

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of my January. So technically, you're the first

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person I'm guesting in on

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2025, and I plan to be very picky on the

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podcast. I got to this year because I'm taking back

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seat on podcasting, so this is exciting

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for me, fresh out

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of recovery.

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>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. Because we were supposed to record before, but, you know, you're under

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the weather. Actually, it's coming from. Was,

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uh, what? Podfast, I believe.

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>> Paula Sima: Ah. Um, kids, uh,

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grown ups, kids. Whoever is listening to this,

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uh, sometimes listen to your body. You're not as. As

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young as you used to think, so doing things you

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used to do four years ago in a conference might not

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That's what happens when you overdo it and you come back

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home and you get sick. And very sick.

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I have been in bed for

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>> Anthony Weaver: Jeez. And do you ever figure out, like, what.

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>> Paula Sima: Well, um, first

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thing, which, uh, is funny, you will find funny

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what happened when I was with you in podcast movement.

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I don't know. This thing about me falling, um,

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should be examined.

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>> Anthony Weaver: Yes.

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>> Paula Sima: So, of course, I did fall twice at

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Potfest, and I was with the same

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teams. Why I say these every

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time I'm with them. Shout out to the

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mopad boys. I love y' all. But,

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um, so I fell down twice, but

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I'm a Person who never feels pain in the moment. Like, you

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remember when I fell at focus movement, the first thing I was like, can

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I get a beer? Like, I was just like, let's get back

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to the. To the mood. Like, no hospitals, no

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nothing. I hate hospitals. I hate unless I really

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feel it. And I normally don't feel it until

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go. You come back home and you're

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these bruises, and my toes were literally,

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like, popped up. Because apparently I

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pinch my. Like,

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looking at my body. Like, I swear if somebody had seen me,

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abused. You know, something like, you know, and

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filled with marks, which I was like, what the hell

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also drinking beer from morning to

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without holding a beer. And again, I blame the

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moped boys for constantly having beers for me.

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hey, look what we have. And they're like, where did you get this? I'm like, don't

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worry where I got it. Eat right.

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hydration. It was the sinus infection again.

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emotion. My body was really tired.

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how I am at a conference. So the body

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was really exhausted until right now. My body

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but the fluid is gone. The cough is going. You can tell

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more than. So I'm healing, but my

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was all those things. That's why I say

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since then. I'm like, bruh, we can't keep doing this.

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hey, uh, I got promoted from mayor to governor

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of podfest. I guess I was doing something right

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there's like, from Tanzania. And I was like, okay, well,

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maybe I'll see her in passing. Okay, so go to

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fincon. And I was like, okay, I've seen her

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like how we have these conversations, but we also support each other

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>> Paula Sima: Which I like that. But, uh, a lot of people come

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me and the energy. And I can be like

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really? Oh, you'll be like, oh my God, she m my kind of person. Because she

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literally ask or anything that shows me, you know, my

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person and that makes me not waste my time with you

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because I don't like people get offended easily

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because I offend. And my friends used to tell me, paula, just

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in person events because online you can't really reach

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Junaid. I don't know if you know him. Junaid.

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home studio videos. Yeah. He helps

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perspective, right? In a different, um,

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attitude. I might write it in a funny way, but somebody

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things or even when somebody goes and say that that

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short girl just came and said like, oh, that's just

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Paula. She didn't mean it that way. Trust me, if she

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in a bad way, you would know. And I like that

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because people get to sense who you really are,

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that nothing gets taken, um, out of

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context. And I am that person. Like, I am very

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sarcastic and I say shit and I'm

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very perverted. Like, four years going on podfest where

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my badges always have perverted the end. So people

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can be aware. Like, you know, I'm, um, the person

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who. But I, I, I, I do,

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um, what's

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the thing called when people have sexual

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harassment and they say, uh,

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consent. I don't before I

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sometimes get into people's personal spaces and,

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um, you know, so. Because I don't want

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to be Didi me, me too. Whatever all that

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crap going on. But I am all those things.

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Uh, and that's why I think I love podfest because

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it's a place where as really

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embraced and welcome me. Like, all of me.

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My loud house. I don't know any

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conference that allows me to drink from morning to

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evening to and to still and they

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still trust me to emcee and,

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and host first timers and Second

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timers, um, more part

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to allow me to be

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their ambassador and spokesman for

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them with how they know, but because deep down they

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know who I really am and I get

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the job done regardless. Like, I am a person who

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loves people, who loves connecting, who loves

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networking. Like, I love bringing people together.

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So it always comes in a good place. How

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it ends up, that's all other different things. So. And

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that's why I tell people, if you deal with drunk polar, go deal

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with drunk polar. Don't bring drunk polar in to. So

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cuz I don't know.

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>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, that is true. I can attest

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it out. He was like, oh, uh, I don't know what

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you're talking about. That was yesterday, cuz when you fell, you

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was like, I totally, I totally forgot about like the next day. I was like, do

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you. She was like, no, I don't know what to talk about.

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But we got footage. So.

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>> Paula Sima: I came back for two weeks.

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He was constantly texting me, yo, are you

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good? Concussion, Are you good? I'm like,

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bro. Ah. And

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that's the thing. They. They love me so much that sometimes

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I feel like smitten by them. But

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it comes from a good place. But I'm, um,

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not personal. Like, and that's why I don't even,

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um, hold grudges or anything.

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Like, once I let it out,

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that's it. You can be mad at me, but I'm not mad.

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Like, you're wasting your anger. I'm still moving,

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baby. As long as that's why I like, take

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putting it out there. And that's why sometimes when I have

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to say for people with me, Facebook, you have seen.

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I've had moments where I literally go off on.

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And once I've already done that, like now, now

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it's out there. I'm good. What's next?

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>> Anthony Weaver: Right, Exactly.

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So, um, because mental health has been one of

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your main things, why mental health

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over any other topic that you love to talk about.

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>> Paula Sima: About. Well, because one, I'm a

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depressed speech, and um,

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two, I am Tanzanian, and in

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Tanzania, we really don't

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talk about mental health. And, um, not

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only Tanzania, I was also around people who,

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when I was

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feeling certain way and I would say and I'd get

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the same, which was, this will

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pass. Oh, at least you have a roof over your

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head. Oh, you're gonna be fine. Uh,

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I get it. I am blessed and I'm happy that I have

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this because there are people out there worse. But

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my feelings still do matter. And I feel like

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some people don't Speak up because

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of that, because of people. Keep on

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having this, or you should be grateful you have this,

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or you should. You know, tomorrow is gonna be

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a better day. Oh, blah, blah, blah. No,

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right now, this is what I'm dealing with. I want to know. So I

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wanted people out there to know they're not alone.

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And also, again, it was

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the misconstructions on mental. On

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depression. Like, when I came out with depression, a lot

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of people came to me saying they would never thought I

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had depression because of how I handled myself or

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I looked. And that's when I felt like it was important.

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Because people assume that you

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have to be in a dark room and sad

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or dressed up in crunchy clothes to be

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depressed. Like, there's no look on depressed. People can be

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walking sanely and happy and

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still depressed. I mean, look at Avicii. Ah, who

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killed himself. It was rich, Emani, that,

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um, Katie whoever. Like all these billionaire

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rich people, actors, they have everything as well,

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but they still ended up killing themselves because of their

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battles with mental health. So you can have everything

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and still be sad because it's a mental thing. It's

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not what you have or what you don't have. It's

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the feelings in your mind that you're battling with.

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And that's where it was. And people needed to understand

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that. Um,

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I lost my thought, but there was something I was going to share.

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Yeah. Um, there's this saying

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where. And I used to be those people

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who used to think surrounding yourself with people would

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make you happy. Right? And then until you

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realize you're in a room full of people, whether you love or

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hate them, but room full of people, and you're

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still lonely as m.

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That shit is real. And that's why when people used to tell

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me when I started being my own best friend and learning to. Because

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I used to be a, uh, people pleaser. I wanted people constantly around

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me, so I would do whatever it takes to. To have

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people around me. And I was wasting my

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energy, my time, my money, because

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they really didn't want to be around me. I was just buying

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their presence, you know? And I

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realized it wasn't filling me. And I had to learn

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how to be happy by myself. I had to learn how

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to be doing things by myself, to be

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okay. To be alone, which most

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people fear. And my brother came to me and told me,

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paula, uh, these days, you're so alone, make sure you're not lonely.

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I'm like, you know, you can be alone and not lonely, and you can be with

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People and lonely. And those are things people need

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to understand. So

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if that answers the question on why mental health,

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that. That was why. Plus, I,

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at the time when my podcast started, I was

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battling my own mental. My

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own very fucked up depression, which got.

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I don't know if without, uh,

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podcasting, I would have been able to get myself out of

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it, because it was Covid going on.

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And back in my country, um,

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our president wasn't taking Covid serious. My dad

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had health issues. And to top

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off worrying about COVID and is older,

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you know, so that was depressing

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me. And then here, ah, there was Black Lives Matter, which

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was crazy. Then there was Asian

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Lives Matter. I lived in Asia for five years.

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I have friends I consider family who are Asian.

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So that was also. And then I was dealing

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with my own breakup, which I kind of didn't want to deal

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with. But when the world shut down, I

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had nothing but time to deal with. I'm overthink. I

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live in my head. So it was a lot of things

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going on, and I was drinking way too much.

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Now I'm a drinker and I enjoy drinking, but there's a

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difference. When you're drinking to have fun and drinking to numb

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the pain. When you're numbing the pain, you're just

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constantly drinking with no stopping because you don't want to

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stop. So that became

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worse. So,

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um, I finally dealt

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with my breakup, and I went on Twitter,

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and Twitter was Twitter. And I started talking shit.

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And somebody was like, you should start a podcast. And I

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sat down and I asked myself,

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if I did start a podcast, what would I want it

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to be? And I was like, what am I going through right now?

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I need to have this conversation. So my

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first episode was me opening up with all the

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shit that I was dealing with. And trust me,

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recording it was easy. But releasing it to the world,

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that was a whole other thing. Uh, I was

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fearing of judgment again. I'm, um, African. I come

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from Tanzania. There's all these things of, oh, you're

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putting too much of the business out there. People don't need to

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know this. You know, all that.

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Nobody talks about money, because God forbid you're

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35 and broken, living paycheck to paycheck,

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baby, it's a crime.

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So all those things, and I was letting all of them

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out, like, you know, opening a Pandora box and

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just letting it fly. But then the most

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surprising thing happened is people started reaching out

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and telling me how they are dealing with the same,

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how they're grateful I spoken up

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because they they are going through it. And we

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started having those conversations and, and

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that's when I knew, you know, what I needed to create

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this safe space for people to feel safe, to. To

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have these conversations because we are

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shown about their taboo. You can't talk about

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financials, you can't talk about your mental health, you can't

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talk about sex. You can't, uh. Who

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said you can't?

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How do we get better if we can't have these conversations?

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How do we hear?

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>> Anthony Weaver: And it goes back to like, how is

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society is able to move forward if you're afraid to even talk about

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it? Because with the movement now is like

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certain histories you don't talk about now. So like, how do you

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deal with. Well, you're only going to tell one side of it.

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Well, what about what was going on around that sub,

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around that topic?

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>> Paula Sima: You know, if you're not

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digging through. And that's why I tell people it's the same

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as. And this is why people are scared about

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therapy or working, working on

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themselves because,

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um, growth or,

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uh, working on yourself, which is something I'm

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still battling with and I've been doing.

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It's a, it's a process because you have to dig.

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And as soon as you think you're better, uh, you dig into

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something which opens all these other wounds and you have to

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go deeper into them and figure them out. And

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people don't like knowing that, baby, sometimes you are

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the problem. You know, people want to point

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fingers. People want to say, it's because of

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him I am broke. It's because of him. I didn't get

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this. No, look into yourself.

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Why are all these people doing that to you?

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What is your problem? And I had to sit and

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constantly look. And I realized there's one time I came

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out and said, I realize I am,

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um. I used to pride myself in thinking

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I am a great, A good friend, like a great

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friend. And I realized I'm not a great friend.

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I'm a good person, but a great friend.

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No, I was lying to myself. And people kept asking me

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about. I'm like, yes, I was doing things, but I was

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doing things hoping that my friends do them to me as well.

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That's not being a good friend. You're supposed to just

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do things. So there were certain things I was finding out. And

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that's why maybe I was getting mad at certain friendships or

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certain friendships ended. Because

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even though there was no that, that condition in me,

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I was putting those conditions without knowing. And.

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And it takes digging deeper into why

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the am I like this to realize certain

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things. So, yeah, yeah.

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>> Anthony Weaver: So what helped you find yourself?

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Like, were there books? Did you journal?

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Did you go to therapy?

497
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>> Paula Sima: Um, so I, believe it or not, I

498
00:24:02,700 --> 00:24:05,440
hate, I hate cell phone books.

499
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,240
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.

500
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:12,280
>> Paula Sima: I hate self help books. I. And

501
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,640
I read, but I read a lot of crime,

502
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:16,380
um, and, um,

503
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,160
autobiography books. I learn a lot from

504
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,120
autobiographies because I like learning people's

505
00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,440
journeys. And that's why, even when I

506
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,720
pivoted my podcast from mental health to creative

507
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,640
journeys and mental struggles, because I want to share

508
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,480
people's creative journeys. Because we always assume,

509
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,450
oh, somebody just got there, like, I want to be there.

510
00:24:37,450 --> 00:24:40,250
But you don't know what they went through to get there.

511
00:24:40,730 --> 00:24:43,570
So don't excuse your journey. Don't just think people

512
00:24:43,570 --> 00:24:46,090
just went to sleep and woke up and here they were.

513
00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:49,450
And you want to be there, but you're not doing the work

514
00:24:49,690 --> 00:24:52,570
they did or more than they did to get

515
00:24:52,570 --> 00:24:55,530
where you're going. And that's why I love autobiographies.

516
00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:58,770
And I've always had this idea of my own autobiography in the

517
00:24:58,770 --> 00:25:01,700
future. So it's kind of also like research. But, um,

518
00:25:02,050 --> 00:25:04,880
so it's just, um, learning from people's, um,

519
00:25:05,170 --> 00:25:08,170
journeys. I read a lot of autobiographies, but there's

520
00:25:08,170 --> 00:25:11,010
also this book, um, I forgot, hold

521
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:13,750
on. Pope Francis. Um,

522
00:25:13,810 --> 00:25:16,810
it's funny. Uh, I hate Catholic. My

523
00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:19,490
parents are Catholic. Thank God I, I didn't grow up,

524
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,330
uh, Catholic. But

525
00:25:22,450 --> 00:25:25,410
there's this very little book by

526
00:25:25,970 --> 00:25:28,780
Pope, uh, Pope. Pope

527
00:25:28,780 --> 00:25:31,660
Francis. Um, I'll

528
00:25:31,660 --> 00:25:32,860
get the name of it.

529
00:25:34,780 --> 00:25:37,180
I, um, don't know why I can't find it right now.

530
00:25:37,580 --> 00:25:38,940
He has several books,

531
00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:43,379
but there's this specific one and

532
00:25:43,379 --> 00:25:46,060
I literally just found it the other day because I was,

533
00:25:46,220 --> 00:25:48,940
I was getting interviewed and that was part of

534
00:25:48,940 --> 00:25:51,820
the, the question. And I, and I had

535
00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:54,390
it in there. But, um,

536
00:25:55,210 --> 00:25:58,130
so that book really opened

537
00:25:58,130 --> 00:26:01,010
my eyes in a different way because he

538
00:26:01,010 --> 00:26:03,850
spoke in a very human

539
00:26:04,090 --> 00:26:05,930
way than like

540
00:26:06,650 --> 00:26:09,610
leading Christianity or Catholicism or

541
00:26:09,610 --> 00:26:12,050
anything. So that, um,

542
00:26:12,290 --> 00:26:15,210
helped. But also therapy. I'm, um, a firm

543
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:17,610
believer in therapy. It took me,

544
00:26:18,980 --> 00:26:21,220
I went on and off to therapy.

545
00:26:21,620 --> 00:26:24,460
And, um, I'm actually thinking

546
00:26:24,460 --> 00:26:27,420
right now about going back to therapy. But again, therapy is

547
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:30,020
also exhausting because

548
00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:33,860
finding the right fit, it's just like relationship, right?

549
00:26:33,860 --> 00:26:36,700
You have to find the right person who gets with

550
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,540
you. But also, um, I journal

551
00:26:39,620 --> 00:26:42,540
a lot. I do journal a lot. And I'm working on

552
00:26:42,540 --> 00:26:45,270
a new book journal coming out.

553
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:48,710
But, um, and

554
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:52,870
one of the biggest thing was

555
00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:58,670
accepting that something was wrong with me.

556
00:26:58,670 --> 00:27:01,670
And I needed help. And I think once you

557
00:27:01,670 --> 00:27:04,270
get there, even if you don't have access to

558
00:27:04,270 --> 00:27:07,230
therapy or to books, you will

559
00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:09,750
start digging into yourself. I'm, um, a person who

560
00:27:09,750 --> 00:27:12,660
literally digs into myself. And

561
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:15,210
um, I don't know if it's healthy or not,

562
00:27:15,370 --> 00:27:18,130
but that's why sometimes I don't

563
00:27:18,130 --> 00:27:21,130
sleep. I will sit, I will lay at night and I'll

564
00:27:21,130 --> 00:27:23,930
be like, why didn't this work out? And then

565
00:27:23,930 --> 00:27:26,929
I'll go deep in, okay, I

566
00:27:26,929 --> 00:27:29,210
did this, this, this, they did this, this, this.

567
00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:32,690
What could have been done better? And

568
00:27:32,690 --> 00:27:35,610
then once, uh, I figure that out, I pray, I

569
00:27:35,610 --> 00:27:38,550
pray a lot. Um, I have

570
00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:41,460
a very on and off relationship with God. Uh,

571
00:27:41,670 --> 00:27:44,390
because growing up I was forced into

572
00:27:45,670 --> 00:27:48,470
religion, Christianity. You know, you're woken

573
00:27:48,470 --> 00:27:51,310
up every Sunday to go to church and you had to go to Sunday

574
00:27:51,310 --> 00:27:54,150
school and you had to get communion and you had to

575
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:57,270
all that shit. And then I moved from home

576
00:27:57,270 --> 00:28:00,230
and went to college and nobody's there to wake you up on

577
00:28:00,230 --> 00:28:03,110
Sundays to force you to church. So I took a backseat.

578
00:28:03,110 --> 00:28:05,670
Like God, who on Saturday we are turning up,

579
00:28:05,910 --> 00:28:08,750
we are too late. I am waking up on Sunday to go to

580
00:28:08,750 --> 00:28:11,190
church. And then when I started

581
00:28:11,430 --> 00:28:13,540
battling my depression, I remember, um,

582
00:28:14,790 --> 00:28:17,710
me and my mom are not close. I'm more close

583
00:28:17,710 --> 00:28:20,630
to my dad. But something told me to call my

584
00:28:20,630 --> 00:28:23,270
mom. And I called my mom

585
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:26,470
and I started crying telling her something is

586
00:28:26,470 --> 00:28:29,350
wrong with me. And one thing my mom

587
00:28:29,350 --> 00:28:32,350
said, she didn't dismiss it, uh, she

588
00:28:32,350 --> 00:28:35,030
didn't try to understand it, which I'm grateful.

589
00:28:35,270 --> 00:28:37,350
Or she told me was like, Paula, prayer.

590
00:28:38,780 --> 00:28:41,540
Pray and pray and pray and God will give you the

591
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:44,420
answers. And funny

592
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:47,100
enough, I started

593
00:28:47,180 --> 00:28:50,140
praying and my heart felt less heavier

594
00:28:50,140 --> 00:28:52,940
the more I kept on praying, like something

595
00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:55,740
is being lifted. So I have that Bible

596
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:58,460
app on my, on uh, my phone.

597
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,380
I read, uh, I look for plans

598
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:04,300
that help me with what I'm going through. And they have

599
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,140
mental health plans, they have

600
00:29:07,020 --> 00:29:09,880
self esteem plans. They have, they have, have all the

601
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,600
plans you need and you can read them with a friend.

602
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,680
Like send links and share and you and your friends read

603
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,200
together and discuss so you can do it by yourself.

604
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,320
So that was one of the biggest tool I started with

605
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,000
that before even therapy.

606
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,560
>> Anthony Weaver: Nice. Okay, so try to do it to

607
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,520
kind of really know yourself before you actually go in and not

608
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,920
waste your money for therapy.

609
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,200
>> Paula Sima: What are you going to tell them if you haven't really look like

610
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,510
anchors? Whether you say or not

611
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:42,390
that one hour is, they're gonna still charge you.

612
00:29:42,950 --> 00:29:45,870
So, uh, it's at least. And I

613
00:29:45,870 --> 00:29:48,830
tell people, don't waste the money unless you're

614
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:51,670
really sure you wanna work on yourself.

615
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:55,430
And that's why certain people come and say, oh, therapy

616
00:29:55,430 --> 00:29:58,350
doesn't work. No, baby, it's not that therapy doesn't

617
00:29:58,350 --> 00:30:01,030
work. Did you actually do the work? Because it

618
00:30:01,030 --> 00:30:03,830
requires you doing the work. It requires you

619
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:06,730
having those conversations, it requires you looking deep,

620
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,440
deep in and doing those exercises and following

621
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,520
through. And that's why I had to commit to myself

622
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120
first to do it by myself. And,

623
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040
and all those who say, oh, I have my

624
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,880
girlfriends, I don't need therapy, trust me, I know too. But your

625
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,840
girlfriends ain't gonna tell you unless your girlfriend is

626
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,840
Paula. Because I will tell you the truth. And some of my friends

627
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,360
hate me that much because I, I give it to them,

628
00:30:29,740 --> 00:30:32,730
uh, as it is, with as

629
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:35,370
much love as I can. But also

630
00:30:35,610 --> 00:30:38,610
your friends isn't the same. And that's why you,

631
00:30:38,610 --> 00:30:41,250
you need to speak to a stranger because they don't have

632
00:30:41,250 --> 00:30:44,170
loyalty to you. They don't care about

633
00:30:44,250 --> 00:30:47,250
your past, they don't care about hurting your feelings, they

634
00:30:47,250 --> 00:30:48,970
don't care about sugar coating.

635
00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:52,970
You need somebody who's gonna give it to you as it

636
00:30:52,970 --> 00:30:55,970
is. And that's why start with yourself looking

637
00:30:55,970 --> 00:30:58,890
yourself in the mirror. And, and it's funny, I

638
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:01,850
haven't told anybody yet. You get to, to speak.

639
00:31:01,850 --> 00:31:04,550
You get to see this first. I' project.

640
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:09,470
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay. Uh, what's

641
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:12,150
that? It's because you got your background.

642
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:13,350
There you go.

643
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,090
>> Paula Sima: Uh, so, um,

644
00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:19,430
it's a new project called sh.

645
00:31:19,990 --> 00:31:22,870
Come on. Shattered

646
00:31:22,870 --> 00:31:25,870
Mirrors. I'm looking at myself and cracks of

647
00:31:25,870 --> 00:31:27,830
mirrors breaking up. And

648
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:31,820
last um, year. October, November, I was having a very

649
00:31:31,820 --> 00:31:34,620
hard time and I spoke to

650
00:31:35,180 --> 00:31:38,060
Shout out to the High Hope Breakfast Club,

651
00:31:38,140 --> 00:31:40,460
Walter Dominic and, and

652
00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:43,420
Streamyard Chris recording Streamyard Chris.

653
00:31:43,980 --> 00:31:46,860
And um, they were helping me figure out

654
00:31:46,860 --> 00:31:49,700
what was going on with me. And um,

655
00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:53,420
they said something which stuck with me. So,

656
00:31:53,420 --> 00:31:56,420
um, I started working on a project where I

657
00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:59,320
was literally picking everything

658
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,040
that I was dealing with. Like, okay, today I'm

659
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,720
feeling this. Then I would record a 20

660
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,920
minute episode. Why am I feeling that?

661
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,640
What is going on? And then I, and then I write

662
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,480
it in a book and then I turned it into a journal and then I

663
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,440
did an exercise. So that helped.

664
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,280
And that's why I said after going through this, I'm like, now I'm

665
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,080
ready to go back to therapy because I know exactly

666
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,640
where my pinpoints are and where the help

667
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,080
needs. So don't just jump into therapy

668
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,360
first. Look within yourself and

669
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,360
pray. I think when you pray, it does bring that

670
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:38,120
out of you. You start seeing what

671
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,480
needs to be fixed.

672
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,000
>> Anthony Weaver: And I think the m. Because you pray,

673
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,880
it's like you're doing it in

674
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360
threes. So you're already thinking about it

675
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
now that you're actually saying it it. And then you're actually

676
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,200
listening into it because you're actually bringing it to

677
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,240
light of what is actually

678
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,200
either a bothering you or you're thinking

679
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,120
about and how you actually going to navigate or the

680
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,880
logistics of this new feeling or this

681
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,680
remapping of your brain for something that

682
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,600
isn't, that wasn't there or used to be there, that isn't

683
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,120
there anymore. And I think that is really good,

684
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:17,240
um, way to kind of deal with that mental

685
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,740
health, ah, process.

686
00:33:19,650 --> 00:33:22,460
Um, so I actually have a question of

687
00:33:22,460 --> 00:33:25,340
about like, because we are working with the sandwich

688
00:33:25,340 --> 00:33:28,220
generation and you

689
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:30,540
know, dealing with your parents, um,

690
00:33:31,300 --> 00:33:34,100
having this discussion and letting them know

691
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,740
where you are as a person, as an adult,

692
00:33:37,140 --> 00:33:40,060
as a young. Well, to them they are, uh, in their eyes, I'm sure

693
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:42,740
they still look at you as a little baby girl. But

694
00:33:43,060 --> 00:33:46,030
like, like, how was that conversation with

695
00:33:46,030 --> 00:33:49,030
them to kind of say, like, you know what, hey, this is

696
00:33:49,030 --> 00:33:51,790
how I feel and I would appreciate you if you treat me this

697
00:33:51,790 --> 00:33:53,470
way to set those barriers.

698
00:33:55,790 --> 00:33:58,750
>> Paula Sima: So, um, I am blessed with

699
00:33:59,070 --> 00:34:01,850
incredible parents. Um,

700
00:34:02,110 --> 00:34:04,590
my mom is still a typical African mom.

701
00:34:04,780 --> 00:34:07,470
Um, but thank God we haven't

702
00:34:07,470 --> 00:34:09,960
lived together in 10 plus,

703
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,960
not 20 plus years.

704
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,520
I haven't been in my mom's prison, so

705
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,720
she can tell me. I mean, even if she wanted to

706
00:34:19,720 --> 00:34:21,720
whoop me, she couldn't, right?

707
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,809
But, um, so the first time when I, uh,

708
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,840
when I came out with depression, right, I started,

709
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,040
I wanted to start this thing called life with Paula.

710
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,969
And um, I remember when I had

711
00:34:35,969 --> 00:34:38,209
the conversation with my mom about depression,

712
00:34:38,919 --> 00:34:41,889
um, me and my mom really didn't dig

713
00:34:41,969 --> 00:34:44,889
deep into it. As I said, she, she didn't try to

714
00:34:44,889 --> 00:34:47,649
understand it. She didn't. She just told me to pray.

715
00:34:47,969 --> 00:34:50,769
And we have never really sat down and had

716
00:34:50,929 --> 00:34:53,929
a conversation again. My

717
00:34:53,929 --> 00:34:56,809
mom chooses what she wants to, to be a

718
00:34:56,809 --> 00:34:59,769
part of and, and you know, and me and I

719
00:34:59,769 --> 00:35:02,750
are not close. So God forbid, if this was my

720
00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:05,590
brother, it would have been a whole other thing. She would have probably

721
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:08,070
traveled to the moons to find cure for him.

722
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:11,510
But that's a whole other conversation. But as far as my

723
00:35:11,510 --> 00:35:14,350
dad, um, which was a little bit more hard, um,

724
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:16,390
because I'm a government kid, right?

725
00:35:17,270 --> 00:35:20,230
Government kid means my family is in the government.

726
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:23,270
So, um, you have to be

727
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:26,070
Kinda very,

728
00:35:28,750 --> 00:35:29,680
um,

729
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,960
very aware with what you put out there because

730
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,920
they take everything and I. And attack you, especially

731
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,560
when it's time of political stuff back home.

732
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,160
But then again, I haven't been home a long time. And

733
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,960
that's why most people wondering why at one point my

734
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,960
Facebook name was different, my Instagram. It

735
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
was because I don't want my,

736
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,000
my, uh, shit to interfere with m. The

737
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,800
political stuff. Because one thing is

738
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,440
for sure, my family knew from a young

739
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,400
age that they can never. Since Apollo,

740
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,600
I was that rebellious kid with a loud mouth.

741
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,440
I am gonna say what I'm gonna say. I grew up a

742
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,440
tomboy. So I was not the normal typical guy you put in

743
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440
the kitchen and train her to be a wife

744
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,920
or whatever. I was none of that. I was

745
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,560
loud. I, I

746
00:36:21,930 --> 00:36:24,650
like they knew they, they just had to let me

747
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:26,730
be. But I also

748
00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:30,450
am aware that the things I do put

749
00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:33,130
out might affect my family

750
00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:36,170
since they are in the government. So I tried

751
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:39,170
to be sensitive towards that. So when,

752
00:36:39,170 --> 00:36:42,090
when I wanted to start life with Paula, when I

753
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:45,090
first realized about my depression, I did have to have

754
00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:48,070
a conversation with my dad because our life

755
00:36:48,070 --> 00:36:50,910
with Paula was starting on Instagram.

756
00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:54,430
And then we ended up creating a support group

757
00:36:54,430 --> 00:36:57,430
on WhatsApp. So I did have a conversation with my dad and

758
00:36:57,430 --> 00:37:00,270
I was like, dad, listen, I'm, um, dealing with depression

759
00:37:01,230 --> 00:37:04,150
and I feel like the only way for me to heal is to

760
00:37:04,150 --> 00:37:07,030
start having these conversations, which means

761
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:09,790
that I will be putting my business out there,

762
00:37:09,950 --> 00:37:12,750
which means that it might be used

763
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:17,150
on you guys. And I don't want

764
00:37:17,150 --> 00:37:20,070
that, but I also want to do what's

765
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:22,550
best for me. And my dad was

766
00:37:22,870 --> 00:37:25,790
do what you gotta do. So I'm grateful for

767
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:28,670
that. He was really very supportive. And the first live

768
00:37:28,670 --> 00:37:31,270
I did, he was even on the comments

769
00:37:31,430 --> 00:37:33,030
telling me, language, please.

770
00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:37,750
Mind you, I learned to be

771
00:37:37,750 --> 00:37:40,070
this language from my father.

772
00:37:40,950 --> 00:37:43,790
And then now, you know, he gets older, he starts cleaning his

773
00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:46,730
act and he's like, oh, you gotta clean your. I'm like, well, you

774
00:37:46,730 --> 00:37:48,850
are 20 years ahead of me, so give me time.

775
00:37:50,450 --> 00:37:50,940
But, um,

776
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:56,050
it turned out to be very good because then

777
00:37:56,530 --> 00:37:58,850
when I did that first live and

778
00:37:59,330 --> 00:38:02,090
people started pouring in, the WhatsApp group

779
00:38:02,090 --> 00:38:04,450
had like 30 people.

780
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:07,770
And some of them were my friends. One of

781
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:10,690
them was my cousin who was my close friend who I

782
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:13,490
found out almost tried to kill herself. But

783
00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:16,380
again, because these are things we don't talk about,

784
00:38:16,380 --> 00:38:19,340
the family was hiding it. And hiding it

785
00:38:19,340 --> 00:38:22,340
doesn't help because you're not getting her help. You're making her

786
00:38:22,340 --> 00:38:25,260
Feel ashamed about something that she

787
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:27,980
didn't have control over instead of actually

788
00:38:28,060 --> 00:38:30,700
allowing her to speak on it so she can get

789
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:33,340
better, help and be around people

790
00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:36,540
who know how to be with her.

791
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,460
So in that group, all these things were coming out

792
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:44,220
and seeing some of my friends dealing with

793
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:47,180
things, and I, I missed it. Like,

794
00:38:47,260 --> 00:38:50,100
I, I didn't know that was

795
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,860
one of the painfulest things. And

796
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:55,660
I went and I told my dad and my dad was like,

797
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,620
well, then keep doing it. You can't stop now.

798
00:38:59,740 --> 00:39:01,820
And that support group was

799
00:39:03,740 --> 00:39:06,660
like, when I look at all of those people right now, where they

800
00:39:06,660 --> 00:39:09,500
are and what they're doing. And one time some of them came to me and they're like,

801
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,300
paula, because you started this, you gave us the stre

802
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,760
to go on. And it wasn't that

803
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960
we did anything for each other. It was just that we had a

804
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,680
safe space for people to, to talk

805
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,320
without being told, oh, uh, it's gonna be

806
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,920
okay. Oh, at least you have this. Like, people really

807
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,320
just listened and checked in. And sometimes people,

808
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,320
all people want is just to be listen. I don't

809
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,320
want an advice. I don't want. I, uh, just want you to hear

810
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:36,680
me.

811
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,800
>> Anthony Weaver: Just hear you. Yeah.

812
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,000
>> Paula Sima: Yeah. So, um, I'm grateful that

813
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,670
I, I, My dad

814
00:39:43,670 --> 00:39:46,550
gave me, um, a go ahead and was like, do what you gotta do.

815
00:39:46,950 --> 00:39:49,670
And I'm grateful that my mom really doesn't give a,

816
00:39:49,830 --> 00:39:52,710
like that to, to, to tell me no. But

817
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:55,350
trust me, if she does hear things, she doesn't,

818
00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:58,270
she's not on my socials, unlike my dad. My dad

819
00:39:58,270 --> 00:40:01,110
follows me everywhere sometimes. It's so annoying.

820
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:04,430
But my mom is not on socials and I doubt she

821
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:07,350
listens to my podcast, so. But I feel like if she

822
00:40:07,350 --> 00:40:09,670
did hear some of the things, she would

823
00:40:10,650 --> 00:40:13,570
be like a proper African man. But

824
00:40:13,570 --> 00:40:16,370
my dad is cool. He has even been on my podcast to

825
00:40:16,370 --> 00:40:19,050
share about raising me.

826
00:40:19,210 --> 00:40:22,210
Me and him were invited to another podcast together as a

827
00:40:22,210 --> 00:40:25,130
father, daughter, uh, duo to talk about relationship and

828
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:27,930
depression. And even the fact that my dad also came

829
00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:30,930
out to me. I was like, I also deal with depression.

830
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:33,850
And I go, so it was like. And these are

831
00:40:33,850 --> 00:40:36,530
conversations you need to know. Like, our

832
00:40:36,530 --> 00:40:39,490
parents also have mental health struggles, but we look at

833
00:40:39,490 --> 00:40:42,010
our parents like healers. They can't do anything, but

834
00:40:42,250 --> 00:40:45,170
we need to also be there for them in their mental

835
00:40:45,170 --> 00:40:48,010
struggles, just as they need to be there for us. So have

836
00:40:48,010 --> 00:40:50,850
those conversations with your people. You never

837
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:52,010
know who's struggling.

838
00:40:52,730 --> 00:40:55,370
>> Anthony Weaver: That is true. Um, because like,

839
00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:58,410
a lot of things, like, I don't really share, obviously, On a

840
00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:01,390
show because I'm like, I don't need that kind of scrutiny

841
00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:04,860
or like just people just kind of keep asking me questions about things

842
00:41:04,860 --> 00:41:07,860
and I'm like, let me just be me for a moment.

843
00:41:07,940 --> 00:41:10,860
I'm gonna be my hermit. I'll throw out an episode

844
00:41:10,860 --> 00:41:13,460
that I pre recorded from a live show, throw it up on

845
00:41:13,460 --> 00:41:16,100
RSS feed. I got things to do.

846
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,580
Um, but so having those moments,

847
00:41:19,580 --> 00:41:22,540
I understand. Because, you know, podcasting is a

848
00:41:22,540 --> 00:41:25,060
lot and you produce yours weekly.

849
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,500
Um, I do mine weekly, but I do several episodes a week

850
00:41:29,310 --> 00:41:30,270
and it's.

851
00:41:30,350 --> 00:41:31,870
>> Paula Sima: It'S a wait when you see.

852
00:41:32,030 --> 00:41:34,830
When you say several, several episodes a

853
00:41:34,830 --> 00:41:36,110
week, what do you mean?

854
00:41:36,270 --> 00:41:39,230
>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, um, so I do a pre recorded show like this

855
00:41:39,230 --> 00:41:42,070
one and then obviously I do the chop up with

856
00:41:42,070 --> 00:41:44,709
edits and everything like that. So I throw those out for the

857
00:41:44,709 --> 00:41:47,630
socials. Then I have an AI episode

858
00:41:47,710 --> 00:41:50,630
that comes out after that does like. So

859
00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:53,510
it's like an AI summary episode like 20 minutes or so that

860
00:41:53,510 --> 00:41:56,120
comes out uh, before I release the next

861
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,960
episode on the next Tuesday. But then I do also

862
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,480
a live show every Thursday at 8pm Eastern.

863
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,040
So because of that live show.

864
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Yeah, that's what a lot of people say. They was like,

865
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
you really don't have kids, do you? I was like, no.

866
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,360
But I, because of the feedback

867
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,120
and people who actually listen to the

868
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,100
show that find value. You and either

869
00:42:21,180 --> 00:42:23,900
the topics that I'm talking about, how can I help them?

870
00:42:24,620 --> 00:42:27,460
This is a reason why I do it. Um, in my live

871
00:42:27,460 --> 00:42:30,060
shows is where I'm actually testing out features,

872
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,300
testing out things and streamlining my processes and

873
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:33,540
seeing.

874
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:36,380
>> Paula Sima: How I like those live

875
00:42:36,380 --> 00:42:39,020
shows. I try to catch them as much as I can.

876
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:42,340
>> Anthony Weaver: I, um, appreciate it, you know, because it's one of the

877
00:42:42,340 --> 00:42:44,780
things that just like, you know, it's Thursday

878
00:42:45,260 --> 00:42:47,980
night, Friday Eve, whatever you want to call it,

879
00:42:48,140 --> 00:42:50,900
you know, let's end the week out strong, have a good

880
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,660
Friday, um, and just kind of get people in

881
00:42:53,660 --> 00:42:56,500
positive mood before the, the weekend starts. And that's really

882
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:57,180
my goal.

883
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,740
>> Paula Sima: Yeah, you should start bringing back the, the round

884
00:43:00,740 --> 00:43:03,100
tables again. I enjoy the round

885
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,940
tables when you had different people

886
00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:08,940
on the uh, on ah, a conversation. You know,

887
00:43:09,020 --> 00:43:09,740
I feel like,

888
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,110
uh, because I'm thinking about putting talk show with Pete to bed

889
00:43:16,710 --> 00:43:19,470
and trust me, I've gotten a lot of hate from

890
00:43:19,470 --> 00:43:21,830
that and PodFest everybody. Because

891
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:26,350
one thing, um, PodFest was

892
00:43:26,350 --> 00:43:28,790
my last picking gig. I don't want to speak again.

893
00:43:29,670 --> 00:43:30,550
Not this year.

894
00:43:33,670 --> 00:43:36,630
And then, uh, I was talking about putting Talk show

895
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:39,550
with P2B and not coming to Podfest next

896
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:42,510
year. And people are like, paula, we are tired of this. What is going

897
00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:45,090
on with this Last. Last final. Final. Like

898
00:43:45,170 --> 00:43:47,490
this. We're not doing this.

899
00:43:48,610 --> 00:43:51,450
But I feel like if

900
00:43:51,450 --> 00:43:53,730
I ever bring it back or something,

901
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,850
uh, it will be like round tables. I like having

902
00:43:57,330 --> 00:44:00,050
different perspective in one table and

903
00:44:00,050 --> 00:44:02,890
different objections and learning from people at the same

904
00:44:02,890 --> 00:44:05,490
time. But it also, it.

905
00:44:06,050 --> 00:44:08,970
What sucks about it is people

906
00:44:08,970 --> 00:44:10,930
don't get as much time because if you have.

907
00:44:13,260 --> 00:44:16,260
You're trying to put it under and now or something, but you also want

908
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:19,060
everybody to have a pointer. Uh, it should be like

909
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:22,020
either one question or two question. But. But however much you

910
00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:24,780
prepare, people don't understand about conversations.

911
00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:28,140
I. I normally have questions. Right.

912
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:30,900
Just so that I can remember in case we.

913
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,740
We sidetracked. Because you get sidetracked. And I

914
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:36,660
have those must ask questions and those questions just

915
00:44:36,660 --> 00:44:39,400
in case there's still time. And

916
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,280
then sometimes you just go

917
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,160
into different segments and you're like, you know what? This is

918
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,120
much more better than the questions I had. And

919
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,920
then the next thing you know, time is gone and you really

920
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,760
haven't hit in other spots. So imagine when you have

921
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:56,560
the round table and everybody's kind of like,

922
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,440
that's the only bad part I hate about roundtables, but

923
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,360
I really love them.

924
00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:05,150
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. And I guess you could say, because it's

925
00:45:05,150 --> 00:45:07,430
a difference between being a guest and being a host.

926
00:45:07,830 --> 00:45:10,590
Because hosting them, um, I'm like, yo, I got like eight

927
00:45:10,590 --> 00:45:13,190
questions and I, um, maybe get through five.

928
00:45:13,590 --> 00:45:16,470
That's it. Because, uh, everything goes off the rails. And this.

929
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:19,550
Which is good. But also it depends on how big the round table

930
00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:22,550
is. And sometimes an hour is not long

931
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:25,030
enough. Yeah.

932
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:27,510
So if you're gonna bring one, let me.

933
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:33,680
>> Paula Sima: One guest. And the conversation is so good. One hour can feel

934
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,600
like 30 minutes. And then you have that. Guess where

935
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,480
you have to pull everything where 30 minutes feel like

936
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:40,000
an hour.

937
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,120
I'm kind of putting my podcast, uh, uh, like

938
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,320
I am gonna finish season nine. I'm not gonna promote it

939
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,120
as much. I'm gonna dump all the lives

940
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,280
episodes. I've already picked out yesterday.

941
00:45:56,410 --> 00:45:59,370
The lives that I did. I want to bring them to ISS feed.

942
00:45:59,370 --> 00:46:01,530
I want to end Talk show with you with 10 season.

943
00:46:01,930 --> 00:46:04,090
The plan was to record, uh, the.

944
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:07,690
The season 10 a podfest, but boy, did I not

945
00:46:07,690 --> 00:46:10,410
even have time to record. I always tell myself I record

946
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:13,730
live when I'm, um, conferences. But I'm always doing

947
00:46:13,730 --> 00:46:16,650
too much. Ah. I do way too

948
00:46:16,810 --> 00:46:19,610
much m. That I do not have a time

949
00:46:19,610 --> 00:46:22,490
to do anything. So I Wasn't able to. To do that.

950
00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:26,470
But, uh, maybe I might do the season 10

951
00:46:26,470 --> 00:46:29,470
in. In round tables, but like,

952
00:46:29,550 --> 00:46:32,510
instead of four or five people, like two, three.

953
00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:35,470
That way it goes. But also, I've realized I enjoy

954
00:46:35,470 --> 00:46:37,470
being a guest more than being a host.

955
00:46:39,390 --> 00:46:42,310
>> Anthony Weaver: Yes, it's a lot. I, uh, trust me, I

956
00:46:42,310 --> 00:46:44,350
understand. I, uh, I get it.

957
00:46:44,350 --> 00:46:47,310
>> Paula Sima: Because unless I have a

958
00:46:47,310 --> 00:46:50,240
team, if I just show up and be a host and record

959
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,400
and then the team does everything, I can be a

960
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,320
host, but the host also does everything

961
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,200
that

962
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,760
I get how exhausting podcasting

963
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:05,720
is. People think only it's so much fun, all

964
00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:08,280
these things. But the back end, the editing, the

965
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,040
marketing, the promoting, the. The

966
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,080
getting it out there on time,

967
00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:17,560
um, the design, the consistency,

968
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,560
like, it is a lot. And, and that's just a person

969
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,000
who's just doing one show a week. You.

970
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,200
You have all this other as well.

971
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,600
Like.

972
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,000
>> Anthony Weaver: I mean, I. What else I do. I mean,

973
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,360
yeah, so I do help people on the side, um, who are

974
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,280
beginner podcasters. Um, I help people with

975
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,280
their finances. Uh, so, yeah, I

976
00:47:40,770 --> 00:47:43,770
build out the cycles and schedule everything. I mean, that's the only thing.

977
00:47:43,770 --> 00:47:46,770
If I didn't have a scheduler, a lot of this stuff wouldn't happen.

978
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,530
Um, because I tried before.

979
00:47:48,930 --> 00:47:50,530
>> Paula Sima: How do you use, like, what

980
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,490
m. I use calendly.

981
00:47:55,330 --> 00:47:58,050
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, they don't have a referral code,

982
00:47:58,050 --> 00:48:00,820
so I'm like, hey, whatever, just get it. Um,

983
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:02,930
and I highly recommend them.

984
00:48:03,330 --> 00:48:06,290
>> Paula Sima: Emailing them. You never know. You know, sometimes I tell people

985
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,440
all it takes is a, uh, conversation. Just because

986
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:13,200
you. You don't see doesn't mean they don't have it. Or if

987
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,200
you might be the one who makes them bring it. Cause a

988
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
conversation. I always tell people, shoot your

989
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,800
shirt. Like knocking there. Just send an email. Hey, I'm

990
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,760
using this a lot. By any chance do you guys have. You never

991
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,520
know. Even if they say no, you're already on a nose, so

992
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,560
what's there to lose?

993
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,320
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, that is true.

994
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,730
Um, because I didn't realize, like, you know, have you ever

995
00:48:34,730 --> 00:48:37,610
got people that say, like, yeah, I'm so afraid to ask you. I've been afraid to

996
00:48:37,610 --> 00:48:40,530
ask you to be on your show or something like that because,

997
00:48:40,770 --> 00:48:43,570
like, how as much as that you

998
00:48:43,570 --> 00:48:46,130
do. And it was like, oh, I didn't even know. Or

999
00:48:46,450 --> 00:48:47,570
have you ever had it happen?

1000
00:48:48,130 --> 00:48:51,090
>> Paula Sima: Oh, no. I get too many people wanting to come talk with me.

1001
00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:53,930
I think my, uh, the thing with me

1002
00:48:53,930 --> 00:48:55,650
is because my podcast is called Talk

1003
00:48:56,770 --> 00:48:59,650
with Peace. So, uh, everybody, when they hear the name,

1004
00:48:59,650 --> 00:49:01,610
the first thing is I want to talk shit.

1005
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Okay. But it's not really a, ah, kind of like just come in

1006
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,000
and talk kind of po. Uh, so I get

1007
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,200
that. And, and that's one thing

1008
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,000
I used to fear when I started podcasting. I was like, where will

1009
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,719
I get the guest from? And now I have too many

1010
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,440
guests, too many people. They're like,

1011
00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,560
ah, people constantly want to be on my show.

1012
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,120
Because the structure of my show used to be,

1013
00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:29,110
um, I would take a break like, like December, uh,

1014
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,640
to January I'll be on a break, right? Because

1015
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,480
Christmas I put up the last episode,

1016
00:49:35,140 --> 00:49:38,080
um, December, closer to Christmas. And then I'll take that, the

1017
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,880
remainder like that time off in January because I

1018
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,360
always know there's spot first. I'm never

1019
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,640
coming back in January. So that episode started in February,

1020
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,280
but I start recording in January.

1021
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,160
So what, what I normally do in my break,

1022
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,310
I always take two months break. The one month

1023
00:49:55,310 --> 00:49:57,950
is for me to just really relax and worry about

1024
00:49:57,950 --> 00:50:00,830
podcasting and just do other things that I need

1025
00:50:00,830 --> 00:50:03,790
to get together for my podcast. And then the second

1026
00:50:03,790 --> 00:50:06,510
month I do, I uh, I do my

1027
00:50:06,590 --> 00:50:09,350
recordings because in that one month of relaxing, I

1028
00:50:09,350 --> 00:50:12,190
researched what theme I want for this season,

1029
00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:15,830
what type of guest I want. I've already reached out to the

1030
00:50:15,830 --> 00:50:18,830
guests and they have scheduled and all that.

1031
00:50:19,070 --> 00:50:21,900
So then second month, because I, I, I record.

1032
00:50:22,060 --> 00:50:25,020
I know every season I have 15 guests

1033
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,940
I record. So when I come back, the episodes are already

1034
00:50:27,940 --> 00:50:30,860
ready. I do not have no recordings. All

1035
00:50:30,860 --> 00:50:33,860
I have to do is every Wednesday make sure. Uh, but also

1036
00:50:33,860 --> 00:50:35,980
I hate editing. So sometimes I know

1037
00:50:36,459 --> 00:50:39,220
episode is supposed to come out on Wednesday morning. I'm

1038
00:50:39,220 --> 00:50:41,500
um, editing like on Thursday late night,

1039
00:50:41,980 --> 00:50:44,780
sitting up at 2 3am to make sure,

1040
00:50:44,940 --> 00:50:47,940
sit at my 5am because I suck. So

1041
00:50:47,940 --> 00:50:50,860
kudos to people who record and edit right after

1042
00:50:50,860 --> 00:50:53,820
recording. I want to be like you guys when I grow up.

1043
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:56,660
But I me, as soon as I finish recording, I'm like, peace

1044
00:50:56,660 --> 00:50:59,540
out until next time. Like, I forget about it.

1045
00:50:59,940 --> 00:51:02,580
So, um, so when the seasons, when the

1046
00:51:02,580 --> 00:51:05,500
episodes are going and then people are coming to me, I want to be on your

1047
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:08,340
podcast. I'm like, you gotta wait until the next season. But then

1048
00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:11,300
the next season, if I have a theme that you don't

1049
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:14,280
fit in, I'm not gonna have you. So

1050
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,320
I, I had a problem of too many people wanting

1051
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,320
to come talk. And even now, like when

1052
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,600
I've said it's ending, a lot of people like,

1053
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:26,200
oh, no, I haven't talked with you yet. You can't end

1054
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,120
it. You can't end It. I'm like, well, on

1055
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,920
season 10, guys, I'm sorry. And I do have a lot of

1056
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,840
people who I want to bring home, but I'm like, I also don't want to kind

1057
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:37,480
of prolong. I want to end Talk shit with pin season

1058
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:37,850
10.

1059
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,040
And then maybe I have a plan

1060
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,680
to rebrand it. Like how decision

1061
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,480
decisions did from horrible decision to decision

1062
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,440
decision. But I'm gonna

1063
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,160
rebrand it very different. But that's uh, a whole other

1064
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,640
maybe in 27. We're in

1065
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,640
2025 next year. 2027,

1066
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,160
like, because next year I do not want to do

1067
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:03,040
podcasting at all for a while.

1068
00:52:03,540 --> 00:52:06,240
>> Anthony Weaver: M. Yeah, I mean, it's one of the things

1069
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,710
about podcasting is like

1070
00:52:09,030 --> 00:52:12,030
this. It's almost like I, I want

1071
00:52:12,030 --> 00:52:14,550
to stop, but I don't want to stop. Mostly because

1072
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:17,710
it's like I enjoy meeting new people and

1073
00:52:17,710 --> 00:52:20,590
some people haven't had a chance to really sit down. And

1074
00:52:20,590 --> 00:52:23,470
this is really the longest setup we ever got

1075
00:52:23,470 --> 00:52:25,990
to sit down because when we in, in real life

1076
00:52:26,230 --> 00:52:28,230
events, there's so many people

1077
00:52:28,790 --> 00:52:31,670
asking for either your attention or ask for my attention.

1078
00:52:31,910 --> 00:52:34,670
And then we get turned away and it was like, like, all right, cool, I'll see you

1079
00:52:34,670 --> 00:52:37,350
tomorrow. Like, that's how bad it is in these

1080
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:40,870
events. So, um, having those moments,

1081
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:43,710
I think it's, it's really good. And I appreciate you coming

1082
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:46,530
through today, uh, to kind of share that, um,

1083
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:49,270
because we have a lot of things to.

1084
00:52:49,830 --> 00:52:50,790
That we've went over.

1085
00:52:51,310 --> 00:52:54,150
Um, but one of the things I do, there's still two

1086
00:52:54,150 --> 00:52:57,070
more segments of the show. So this third segment is talking

1087
00:52:57,070 --> 00:52:59,030
about your features. So like,

1088
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,800
what skills or habits that you feel is going to take you to the next

1089
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,120
level?

1090
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,680
>> Paula Sima: Well, believe, um, it or not,

1091
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,600
my loud ass talking mouth.

1092
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,720
Because one, um, thing,

1093
00:53:12,990 --> 00:53:15,920
uh, a lot of people keep telling me how

1094
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,760
funny I am, right? And I was like, you know, there's a difference

1095
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,280
between being funny with your friends

1096
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,640
because you're just talking and they just find it

1097
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,610
funny and than going on the stage and,

1098
00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:30,480
ah, making people actually laugh. But for

1099
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,320
some reason, even though I tell them don't show up

1100
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,280
to mine, they always show up to my talk and literally

1101
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,280
they will enter. So even

1102
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,879
this, when I was doing my last talk at

1103
00:53:41,879 --> 00:53:43,190
Podfest, right, um,

1104
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,040
the mike literally texted me

1105
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,360
9:20, right? And it was richly 9:15 at

1106
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,040
that time. And I was getting ready to get on the stage, I was like,

1107
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,730
yes, but no, like Iraq.

1108
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,160
And as I was getting on the stage, I

1109
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:02,640
see them walking with their humble,

1110
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,520
their breakfast because it was 9 o' clock in the

1111
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,400
morning and sit at the back. And I'm like, oh, God, why are

1112
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,400
you here? And then Joe was like, you

1113
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,400
know we don't go to talks, right? But for you, we have to come. I'm like, why are

1114
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,280
you wasting your five precious minutes? You know, you

1115
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,200
don't need to. They're like, no, Paula, I don't know why you're scared

1116
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,000
to speak, but you. You were actually good. I was like,

1117
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:25,990
like, cool. So then the. The comedy was on

1118
00:54:25,990 --> 00:54:28,870
Saturday and like, we're coming to the comedy. I was like, please don't

1119
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:31,710
come. Please don't come. They're like, paula, this is your

1120
00:54:31,710 --> 00:54:34,430
first time doing a comedy show. We are coming.

1121
00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:37,150
Enjoy looking at me like, paula,

1122
00:54:37,150 --> 00:54:39,389
I'mma laugh so loud because you're my girl

1123
00:54:40,430 --> 00:54:43,350
whether you're funny or not. But if you're funny, as soon

1124
00:54:43,350 --> 00:54:46,190
as you get off the stage, I'mma tell you, don't quit your

1125
00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:49,150
job. Okay? Don't. Don't ever do

1126
00:54:49,150 --> 00:54:51,310
this and don't ever put us to this again.

1127
00:54:51,870 --> 00:54:54,680
I'm like, cool, just as long as you laugh while

1128
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,400
I'm on stage. So I. I

1129
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,360
was nervous as. Because where, uh, I

1130
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,240
did not practice at all. I wrote it up,

1131
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:05,880
but I did not practice. And I started

1132
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,760
practicing an hour before. And I was. Me and

1133
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,600
this girl, we were practicing together. And as I

1134
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,440
was timing myself because you have three minutes, I

1135
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,200
kept on ending at one minute because I was talking too

1136
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:19,910
fast. Like, I still had one minute. And I was like, like,

1137
00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:22,670
damn, how is this gonna

1138
00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:25,670
work? So I started getting like, man, it.

1139
00:55:25,670 --> 00:55:28,510
I'm a cancer. I'm not gonna show up by m. My head. Um, I'm like, Joe and

1140
00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:29,750
Mike are gonna kill me.

1141
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:34,670
And everybody was coming there. Oh, Paula is

1142
00:55:34,670 --> 00:55:37,470
doing comedy. We are coming to see Paula. So

1143
00:55:37,470 --> 00:55:40,310
people literally come. I'm like, I can't do

1144
00:55:40,310 --> 00:55:43,270
this. And last year, because I was supposed to

1145
00:55:43,270 --> 00:55:45,960
do it last year, but, um, I was

1146
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,200
late to pick a number because I was getting

1147
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,080
awarded and Mike hated me because we stayed

1148
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,960
through the end of it because Mike thought I was still doing

1149
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,920
it and was like, I was here for. I was waiting for you to go

1150
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,720
on stage. I'm like, oh, my bad. So I was like, I'm not going to do that

1151
00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:02,560
again to them. So I got on the

1152
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,800
stage and

1153
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,880
I ended up pivoting because the person who got

1154
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,440
off the stage was Kim and was talking about

1155
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,880
Gangnam Styles. So I was like, oh, this is a nice

1156
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,840
entryway with me being Tanzania.

1157
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,640
I'm like, yeah, people Ask me, are you from Africa? No. Africa

1158
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,560
is a continent, not a country, people. And I do not know

1159
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,520
that friend of yours from West Africa, because I'm from East

1160
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,280
Africa. We don't all know each other just because we're

1161
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,120
African. So I started with that. So in my head, um, I'm

1162
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,040
thinking, oh, now that. Because you remember. Because I couldn't

1163
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,880
do it, for one, I was still left to. I mean, I'm like, since I

1164
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,680
added this, which wasn't part of it, I will. But,

1165
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,630
boy, wasn't I able to finish my set, because the three minutes

1166
00:56:43,630 --> 00:56:46,410
you like, they rolled up first, but I was still able to.

1167
00:56:46,810 --> 00:56:49,730
I watched and I closed it out, but I missed

1168
00:56:49,730 --> 00:56:52,730
a few things. But when I got out, um, because we

1169
00:56:52,730 --> 00:56:55,650
had comedians also who came. Because the night before there

1170
00:56:55,650 --> 00:56:58,610
was an actual comedy show. So the

1171
00:56:58,610 --> 00:57:01,530
comedians were there. Jacob was there, who even used

1172
00:57:01,530 --> 00:57:04,410
me as part of his closing line. I was

1173
00:57:04,410 --> 00:57:07,040
like, okay, so, um,

1174
00:57:07,290 --> 00:57:09,320
everybody was like, yo, Paula, that was

1175
00:57:10,110 --> 00:57:12,750
amazing. You were

1176
00:57:12,830 --> 00:57:15,790
funny. Like, we really, like, enjoyed even just

1177
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:16,750
like, yeah,

1178
00:57:18,830 --> 00:57:21,150
let's get you into comedy now. So,

1179
00:57:21,470 --> 00:57:24,230
okay, um. Shout out to Steve.

1180
00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:27,030
Shout out to Jeff Drosky was helping me.

1181
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:29,950
Even Steve was like, paula, now I can take you as a client.

1182
00:57:29,950 --> 00:57:31,790
I'm like, now I can even pay you.

1183
00:57:32,830 --> 00:57:35,750
I wanted to make sure first I know if I'm, um, I

1184
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:38,710
can actually do this before starting paying people. People too.

1185
00:57:38,870 --> 00:57:41,630
But now, even if y' all are telling me I am good,

1186
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:44,470
even Jacob was like, you just gotta learn

1187
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:47,350
how to speak slower because you have an accent

1188
00:57:47,350 --> 00:57:50,230
and people need, in order to understand, you kind

1189
00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:53,070
of need to slow down. You speak very fast. I was

1190
00:57:53,070 --> 00:57:55,790
like, ah, I get that. Maybe that's why the three.

1191
00:57:55,790 --> 00:57:58,750
The three minutes when I was timing myself was going

1192
00:57:58,750 --> 00:58:01,630
fast. So I guess my future is

1193
00:58:01,630 --> 00:58:04,150
in comedy. And that's why I'm kind of really

1194
00:58:04,390 --> 00:58:07,240
ready to. To. To. To let go of podcasting.

1195
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,880
Even though, as you say, you know, podcasting was.

1196
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,560
I, I, I love the people you meet and the

1197
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,240
conversations you have. You don't have these normal

1198
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,000
conversations you have on podcast, on, On.

1199
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,080
In real life, on street. Like, sometimes you get

1200
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:22,520
lucky.

1201
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,120
Yes. But when you're

1202
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,320
interviewing somebody or getting interviewed,

1203
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,600
you have a different type of connection

1204
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,460
conversation that just goes deeper than

1205
00:58:33,460 --> 00:58:36,380
you. You expect. And I feel like comedy is kind of

1206
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:39,220
the same way because you get to connect with people

1207
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:42,500
even though you're talking. And literally, I was talking about dating

1208
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:45,060
apps and, like, I was talking about, you know,

1209
00:58:45,220 --> 00:58:48,100
but you still connect to people because there

1210
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:50,940
is somebody out there who really Feels what you're

1211
00:58:50,940 --> 00:58:53,540
going through, and. And it just connects. So

1212
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,580
anything that brings connection. I'm, um. I'm a sucker for

1213
00:58:56,580 --> 00:58:59,510
connection. And I feel like that's the

1214
00:58:59,510 --> 00:59:02,510
void I have. And that's why these days, the people

1215
00:59:02,510 --> 00:59:05,510
who are in my life have to mean something. Like, I don't care if

1216
00:59:05,510 --> 00:59:08,030
we've known each other for long if there's not that

1217
00:59:08,030 --> 00:59:10,830
connection, if we are not healing each

1218
00:59:10,830 --> 00:59:13,430
other's soul. You gotta go, baby. I'm

1219
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:16,350
sorry. So, um, anything.

1220
00:59:16,350 --> 00:59:18,910
My future is consisted of comedy and,

1221
00:59:19,290 --> 00:59:22,030
um, just connecting with

1222
00:59:22,030 --> 00:59:24,870
people. As I said, I'm planning on leaving America this

1223
00:59:24,870 --> 00:59:27,830
year, and, um, uh, I

1224
00:59:27,830 --> 00:59:30,830
feel like my life is just about to

1225
00:59:30,830 --> 00:59:33,710
start. Like, the future is unknown, and I kind

1226
00:59:33,710 --> 00:59:36,430
of like it like that, but I know comedy is part of my future.

1227
00:59:36,830 --> 00:59:39,390
>> Anthony Weaver: Nice. Well, I appreciate you

1228
00:59:39,550 --> 00:59:42,350
taking time out, you know, to come through the show, to really

1229
00:59:42,350 --> 00:59:45,150
share that, because sometimes we don't

1230
00:59:45,150 --> 00:59:48,150
know what we don't know until we try. And that's why

1231
00:59:48,150 --> 00:59:51,150
I always laugh when they say, oh, this person is the best in

1232
00:59:51,150 --> 00:59:53,590
the world. I was like, did everybody get a ticket chance?

1233
00:59:53,830 --> 00:59:56,150
Did everybody try? Like, no.

1234
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:57,350
>> Paula Sima: By what circumstances?

1235
00:59:59,430 --> 01:00:02,310
Questioning the norms when they say, oh, you can't do

1236
01:00:02,310 --> 01:00:05,230
this. Who said I can't do this? Why can't I do this?

1237
01:00:05,230 --> 01:00:07,990
Like, we need to question more, and if we

1238
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:10,870
stop worrying about what people say or anything,

1239
01:00:11,350 --> 01:00:14,070
do the damn thing. And I feel like, um,

1240
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:17,430
a lot of people, even the. This goes out to any

1241
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:20,230
podcast out there was being frustrated or things like.

1242
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:22,150
Podcasting is supposed to be the.

1243
01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:26,000
The get rich scam. You can get rich

1244
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,960
in, uh, with podcasting in different ways, which

1245
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,280
is connections, opportunities,

1246
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,000
the doors that it opens you into.

1247
01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,480
Like, the relationship I have with the Mopad boys,

1248
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,520
it. It wouldn't have happened without,

1249
01:00:40,790 --> 01:00:43,760
uh, podcasting. Like, those

1250
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,760
boys have become part of my family in ways that

1251
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,900
I can't even explain,

1252
01:00:49,380 --> 01:00:52,180
like, legit when I'm sick.

1253
01:00:52,180 --> 01:00:55,180
Like right now. They've constantly been bothering me,

1254
01:00:55,180 --> 01:00:58,180
all three of them, in different levels. One is

1255
01:00:58,180 --> 01:01:00,820
messaging on Instagram, one on Facebook, one on.

1256
01:01:01,060 --> 01:01:03,860
On group chat. It's like, okay, I get it.

1257
01:01:03,860 --> 01:01:06,700
Y' all love me, but leave me alone. But

1258
01:01:06,700 --> 01:01:09,580
it's the people come into your life and the opportunities

1259
01:01:09,580 --> 01:01:12,420
that bring. So podcasting itself might not bring

1260
01:01:12,420 --> 01:01:15,340
you money, but it might also open doors. Like,

1261
01:01:15,340 --> 01:01:18,220
people figure out the. They. They prefer being speakers, and

1262
01:01:18,220 --> 01:01:20,740
some get paid to speak. And it all started because of

1263
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:23,660
podcasting. People like me, I'm getting into

1264
01:01:23,660 --> 01:01:26,340
comedy. I wouldn't, uh, have if it wasn't for

1265
01:01:26,340 --> 01:01:29,300
Podcasting. So there's all these ways

1266
01:01:29,620 --> 01:01:32,619
than just one of being successful with your

1267
01:01:32,619 --> 01:01:35,380
podcast. Can I say my podcast is successful.

1268
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:38,660
It not because it has brought me money, not because

1269
01:01:38,660 --> 01:01:41,300
of the downloads I have, but all the

1270
01:01:41,540 --> 01:01:44,110
opportunities. Yeah, I won an award at

1271
01:01:44,110 --> 01:01:46,990
Potfest. I became a governor at

1272
01:01:46,990 --> 01:01:49,910
portfolio to the extent where Chris literally tells me,

1273
01:01:50,230 --> 01:01:53,110
paula, do whatever the you want as long as we don't get in trouble.

1274
01:01:53,190 --> 01:01:55,350
Like this is the guy who runs the.

1275
01:01:55,590 --> 01:01:56,470
>> Anthony Weaver: That's awesome.

1276
01:01:57,030 --> 01:01:59,590
>> Paula Sima: You know, to trust me like that,

1277
01:02:00,030 --> 01:02:01,430
uh, Mopad boy.

1278
01:02:03,430 --> 01:02:06,150
At one point, the amount of credit they gave

1279
01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:09,030
me for Mopada was

1280
01:02:09,030 --> 01:02:11,430
myself, like, like, are you kidding me?

1281
01:02:11,830 --> 01:02:13,990
Like this. So there's

1282
01:02:15,510 --> 01:02:18,470
yesterday. The other day I got a message from somebody who

1283
01:02:18,470 --> 01:02:21,430
I've known, a professor. And they're like, I'm extending my team. Would you,

1284
01:02:21,430 --> 01:02:24,390
uh, are you interested for a talk? And I'm like,

1285
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:27,190
sure, let's talk. I got a job

1286
01:02:27,190 --> 01:02:28,950
from a person who I met, a

1287
01:02:29,830 --> 01:02:32,670
portfolio. So there's all

1288
01:02:32,670 --> 01:02:34,710
these other, all these

1289
01:02:35,190 --> 01:02:38,180
amazing things that, that my podcast has brought to

1290
01:02:38,180 --> 01:02:40,540
me more than money could ever do. So.

1291
01:02:41,340 --> 01:02:42,860
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, that's amazing.

1292
01:02:43,260 --> 01:02:46,230
>> Paula Sima: Question. When you, you know that question of, uh,

1293
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:48,860
when you think about wealth, ask me that question.

1294
01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:50,860
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, well, that's actually the first question.

1295
01:02:50,860 --> 01:02:53,860
So. Ready? So you have

1296
01:02:53,860 --> 01:02:56,540
anything before we dive into the final four?

1297
01:02:56,540 --> 01:02:59,420
>> Paula Sima: Yeah, I, I felt like I was going in that direction.

1298
01:03:00,380 --> 01:03:01,180
>> Anthony Weaver: It's okay.

1299
01:03:01,580 --> 01:03:03,020
>> Paula Sima: I'm taking over the job.

1300
01:03:04,380 --> 01:03:07,300
>> Anthony Weaver: I know, right? Take over my whole show. Like, you don't even

1301
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:10,110
need to be. Just run the whole show, Paula. Just. You got

1302
01:03:10,110 --> 01:03:12,790
this. Okay. Apparently. Uh, so

1303
01:03:12,790 --> 01:03:15,670
anyway, you have anything before we dive into the final

1304
01:03:15,670 --> 01:03:17,430
four questions of the show?

1305
01:03:19,210 --> 01:03:22,150
>> Paula Sima: Um. Damn, that was

1306
01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:23,270
loud. Excuse me.

1307
01:03:23,830 --> 01:03:26,750
Um, go subscribe to talk show

1308
01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:29,630
with me. Because I'm the best. Because

1309
01:03:29,630 --> 01:03:31,110
I said I'm the best.

1310
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,420
Hey, no, I want to say, um,

1311
01:03:38,570 --> 01:03:41,440
um, you know, earlier you talked about how

1312
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,280
you kind of met me, so I wanna, I wanna give you your

1313
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,240
pros as well. Um, uh, I've seen you

1314
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,440
do your thing, you know, um,

1315
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,800
I've watched you at

1316
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,440
a podcast movement. I've watched you at,

1317
01:03:56,090 --> 01:03:58,770
um, Afros. I've watched you at, um,

1318
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:01,860
think on them. We were everywhere last year.

1319
01:04:02,180 --> 01:04:04,980
>> Anthony Weaver: Last year was a lot. It was a lot.

1320
01:04:05,460 --> 01:04:07,060
>> Paula Sima: I don't even know how we did that.

1321
01:04:09,290 --> 01:04:11,460
Um, what I can say is

1322
01:04:12,980 --> 01:04:15,780
don't let nobody dim your

1323
01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:18,740
light because in this industry, um,

1324
01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:22,020
the so called gurus have a way of

1325
01:04:22,020 --> 01:04:24,900
making people seem less

1326
01:04:25,220 --> 01:04:26,820
because of their so called

1327
01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:29,820
glowness. But, um,

1328
01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:33,180
you, me, by watching you, I

1329
01:04:33,180 --> 01:04:36,060
admire your work ethic. How you move, how you

1330
01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:39,060
run your podcast, and how you stand up

1331
01:04:39,060 --> 01:04:41,940
for your. So keep doing your. I am, um,

1332
01:04:42,100 --> 01:04:45,100
proud of you. And, um, I

1333
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:48,020
mean, I wouldn't be jumping into your

1334
01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:51,020
lives every now and then if I really didn't. Like, I'm

1335
01:04:51,020 --> 01:04:53,900
sorry, I don't, I don't listen even to podcasts. Let me tell

1336
01:04:53,900 --> 01:04:56,780
you something. Like, I don't. I, I, I,

1337
01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:59,370
I'm a, I am a podcaster who

1338
01:04:59,370 --> 01:05:02,090
hates listening to podcasts. Like,

1339
01:05:02,490 --> 01:05:05,490
and that's why once a month, I'll do a post on, on.

1340
01:05:05,490 --> 01:05:08,090
On Facebook and be like, drop your favorite

1341
01:05:08,090 --> 01:05:10,730
episode, let me go listen to it, and leave you a review.

1342
01:05:10,730 --> 01:05:12,970
Because otherwise, baby,

1343
01:05:13,370 --> 01:05:15,930
unless. Unless it is,

1344
01:05:16,170 --> 01:05:17,040
um,

1345
01:05:19,370 --> 01:05:22,130
the blessed word, shout out to Dominic and

1346
01:05:22,130 --> 01:05:24,970
Kendra, who do amazing job with that. Ah, that

1347
01:05:24,970 --> 01:05:27,610
became appeal because it was kind of like a

1348
01:05:27,610 --> 01:05:30,610
therapy podcast for me. And lately

1349
01:05:30,610 --> 01:05:33,330
also Jenna's, uh, episode,

1350
01:05:33,870 --> 01:05:36,690
uh, podcast, Big Lush Energy. I just love how

1351
01:05:36,690 --> 01:05:39,170
she talks and shares.

1352
01:05:39,210 --> 01:05:41,970
Ah, unraw truth. I still

1353
01:05:41,970 --> 01:05:43,930
miss certain episodes, but, um,

1354
01:05:44,530 --> 01:05:47,330
apart from really those, I, I don't be

1355
01:05:47,490 --> 01:05:50,450
even. No offense. Mopad will tell you I don't listen to

1356
01:05:50,450 --> 01:05:53,250
their Friday night karaoke, but when they are live on

1357
01:05:53,250 --> 01:05:56,170
Facebook, I will jump and watch and support and

1358
01:05:56,170 --> 01:05:59,070
I will share. And then my bo And I love

1359
01:05:59,070 --> 01:06:01,830
them. Sometimes they'll even be like, well, have you listened to this

1360
01:06:01,830 --> 01:06:04,750
episode? I'm like, no. Why go listen to it? I'm like, why

1361
01:06:05,950 --> 01:06:08,950
go listen? They'll have my glasses with my. I'm

1362
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:11,830
m. Like, oh, my God, thank you so much. I

1363
01:06:11,830 --> 01:06:14,590
should have listened to you before y' all tell me.

1364
01:06:14,910 --> 01:06:17,470
But, um, I suck at that. But I find

1365
01:06:17,470 --> 01:06:20,430
ways to still support in the ways I know,

1366
01:06:20,430 --> 01:06:23,430
and that's why I tell people. Even, Even if you

1367
01:06:23,430 --> 01:06:26,280
don't listen to podcasts, there's different ways you can support your, Your,

1368
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,520
your podcasters. You can share it. Just because you

1369
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,200
don't listen to it doesn't mean the people in your circle

1370
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,160
won't listen to it. You can like it.

1371
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,080
You can go review it, at least. I try to listen at

1372
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:41,080
least one episode of somebody and go live a review. That's all it

1373
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,080
takes. Like, you know, so it's not always

1374
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,960
about money or constantly listening. It's all

1375
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,840
these other ways. So I just want to tell you, keep doing

1376
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,770
your thing. I'm proud of you. And, you know, you.

1377
01:06:53,010 --> 01:06:55,250
You're the. Damn, you're the best.

1378
01:06:59,010 --> 01:07:01,650
>> Anthony Weaver: Appreciate you, papa. I, um, mean,

1379
01:07:01,650 --> 01:07:04,050
you've. Yes, you have really

1380
01:07:04,770 --> 01:07:07,570
lit a fire up under me on, like, you know, just kind of be

1381
01:07:07,570 --> 01:07:10,050
excited about what you do

1382
01:07:10,610 --> 01:07:13,450
versus, like, yes, I get to do this, but

1383
01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:16,050
you actually help me understand

1384
01:07:16,370 --> 01:07:19,170
on why I do this and to

1385
01:07:19,170 --> 01:07:22,030
actually get excited about it again. Um, because,

1386
01:07:22,030 --> 01:07:24,870
you know, this does drain on you a bit. You know,

1387
01:07:24,870 --> 01:07:27,750
sometimes you're like, man, if you start looking at the analytics, it will kill

1388
01:07:27,750 --> 01:07:30,590
your joy. Um, but I'm

1389
01:07:30,590 --> 01:07:33,550
excited about every episode that I put out. So it's like, this

1390
01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:33,990
is it.

1391
01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:37,790
>> Paula Sima: Um, comparison is a thief. Like, when

1392
01:07:37,790 --> 01:07:40,750
you comp. Sometimes I, I used to do it and I

1393
01:07:40,750 --> 01:07:43,350
stopped. I'd look like, oh, you've only been

1394
01:07:43,350 --> 01:07:46,350
podcasting for a year and you have 10k. And I've been podcasting

1395
01:07:46,350 --> 01:07:49,310
for four years and I'm only on this. So when you

1396
01:07:49,310 --> 01:07:51,910
think about that, it does, does kill you

1397
01:07:52,790 --> 01:07:54,070
and might make you

1398
01:07:55,830 --> 01:07:58,550
question, um, yourself. But then one thing I

1399
01:07:58,550 --> 01:08:00,150
learned also is to be like,

1400
01:08:01,510 --> 01:08:03,830
even if you have 50

1401
01:08:04,150 --> 01:08:06,630
downloads on an episode, that's 50,

1402
01:08:06,950 --> 01:08:09,790
people are listening. Even if you have one, that's one person

1403
01:08:09,790 --> 01:08:12,230
who took time out to listen.

1404
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:15,390
And, um, and that's why it's always good to

1405
01:08:15,390 --> 01:08:18,279
remember your why. Like, when you know why

1406
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:21,039
you're doing it. The numbers shouldn't matter. None of

1407
01:08:21,039 --> 01:08:23,959
that should matter. Keep following your why

1408
01:08:23,959 --> 01:08:26,919
and eventually it will come. I am a firm

1409
01:08:26,919 --> 01:08:29,639
believer in as long as you keep

1410
01:08:29,639 --> 01:08:32,439
making yourself great, like you can compare

1411
01:08:32,519 --> 01:08:35,399
to others. If you just want to be great like people

1412
01:08:35,559 --> 01:08:38,399
who you admire and you're like, I want to be as good

1413
01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,679
as them and just to learn

1414
01:08:41,159 --> 01:08:43,999
to get yourself better, that's fine. But if you're comparing

1415
01:08:43,999 --> 01:08:46,759
why they're doing it and this, no, because

1416
01:08:46,759 --> 01:08:49,500
you end up losing yourself because you're constantly be

1417
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:52,020
copying them instead of learning from them.

1418
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:55,180
There's a difference between copying somebody and

1419
01:08:55,180 --> 01:08:57,940
then failing or learning from them. Just,

1420
01:08:58,049 --> 01:09:00,900
uh, uh, uh. Because just because that worked for them

1421
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:03,780
doesn't mean it's going to work for your podcast. But you can

1422
01:09:03,780 --> 01:09:06,420
learn to implement how it can work for your

1423
01:09:06,420 --> 01:09:09,140
podcast and that's where we need to be. And I always

1424
01:09:09,140 --> 01:09:12,020
remember my why. So most of the

1425
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:14,940
time when I really want to give up. And I've had so many times where

1426
01:09:14,940 --> 01:09:17,620
I've wanted to give up on, um, podcasting and everything.

1427
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,840
And then I'll drive get that one review

1428
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:23,800
or one inbox. Thank you for, for this. You

1429
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,760
really helped me this thank you for. And I remember this

1430
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,600
is the reason I'm doing it. But also my

1431
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,280
podcast has been also therapeutic for me. The

1432
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,239
conversations I've had have helped me heal,

1433
01:09:35,480 --> 01:09:38,440
have helped me learn to be a better me or

1434
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,320
realize My growth.

1435
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,320
Because sometimes I'll be listening to somebody. I'm like, damn,

1436
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:46,320
I would have hanged up on you right now. But because

1437
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,129
I'm a better me right now, I'm a listen, and

1438
01:09:49,129 --> 01:09:51,929
I just agree to disagree. Because it's okay to

1439
01:09:51,929 --> 01:09:54,689
agree to disagree. You don't all have to be on the same page

1440
01:09:54,849 --> 01:09:57,849
because just because it worked for them and you don't believe it

1441
01:09:57,849 --> 01:09:59,729
doesn't mean it doesn't work.

1442
01:10:00,129 --> 01:10:00,569
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah.

1443
01:10:00,569 --> 01:10:03,409
>> Paula Sima: So I think sometimes we get into that

1444
01:10:03,489 --> 01:10:06,400
mindset, and it's all about changing your mindset, which I'm,

1445
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,049
um, constantly learning. It's not an easy

1446
01:10:09,049 --> 01:10:10,609
thing, because

1447
01:10:11,809 --> 01:10:14,729
once you're like that, trust me, sometimes I really want to go off.

1448
01:10:14,729 --> 01:10:17,590
And I'm like, paula, uh, if you go off,

1449
01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:20,550
you're going five times behind of the growth

1450
01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:23,390
of you've been

1451
01:10:23,390 --> 01:10:26,230
doing. Is it better? And sometimes when I

1452
01:10:26,230 --> 01:10:29,070
go off, that means I'm disrupting my peace. I'm

1453
01:10:29,070 --> 01:10:31,990
very much these days into being at peace

1454
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:34,950
and creating a peaceful space for me. So I

1455
01:10:35,030 --> 01:10:37,990
just be blind to that. And. And that's okay.

1456
01:10:38,390 --> 01:10:38,870
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah.

1457
01:10:39,750 --> 01:10:41,320
All right, so ready for the final four?

1458
01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:43,390
>> Paula Sima: Yeah, baby.

1459
01:10:50,510 --> 01:10:53,230
>> Anthony Weaver: All righty. All righty. Number one,

1460
01:10:53,470 --> 01:10:55,630
what does wealth mean to you?

1461
01:10:57,150 --> 01:11:00,030
>> Paula Sima: Ah. So to me, wealth means peace.

1462
01:11:00,910 --> 01:11:01,950
Believe it or not, um,

1463
01:11:05,550 --> 01:11:08,410
I. I don't want to be rich, but I do

1464
01:11:08,410 --> 01:11:10,250
want to be, uh, financial.

1465
01:11:11,610 --> 01:11:12,970
What's the word? Financial.

1466
01:11:13,610 --> 01:11:14,410
>> Anthony Weaver: Independent.

1467
01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:17,130
>> Paula Sima: Yeah. I want to be able to

1468
01:11:17,530 --> 01:11:20,370
live a simple life. I'm not a

1469
01:11:20,370 --> 01:11:23,289
person who likes designer or anything, but I love traveling

1470
01:11:23,289 --> 01:11:26,090
and experiencing new things and enjoying the world

1471
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and eating good food and drinking good

1472
01:11:29,170 --> 01:11:32,010
alcohol and being in good restaurants. That's my thing.

1473
01:11:32,010 --> 01:11:34,970
Like, uh, you give me 10,000 to go buy,

1474
01:11:34,980 --> 01:11:37,150
uh, a Louis Vuitton bag, I'm, um, gonna go

1475
01:11:37,860 --> 01:11:40,100
spend it in different restaurants and eat good food.

1476
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:45,060
Like my. My m. Uber bills. My uber bill

1477
01:11:45,060 --> 01:11:47,740
knows every time I get a paycheck, I have to order

1478
01:11:47,740 --> 01:11:50,540
myself a good ass meal from that Uber, and then the

1479
01:11:50,540 --> 01:11:52,830
rest goes everywhere else. So, um,

1480
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:56,300
for me, wealth is peace. I feel like when you have peace,

1481
01:11:56,300 --> 01:11:58,940
you have wealth because people

1482
01:11:58,940 --> 01:12:01,540
assume that you can be re.

1483
01:12:02,100 --> 01:12:05,080
Wealth is being so rich. But then if you don't

1484
01:12:05,230 --> 01:12:06,350
have peace, what's the point?

1485
01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:08,350
>> Anthony Weaver: I like that.

1486
01:12:09,230 --> 01:12:12,150
All right, number two, what was your worst money

1487
01:12:12,150 --> 01:12:12,750
mistake?

1488
01:12:13,630 --> 01:12:16,550
>> Paula Sima: Oh, baby, how many times? There's

1489
01:12:16,550 --> 01:12:19,430
no one. We write a whole book

1490
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:20,510
of follows money.

1491
01:12:22,350 --> 01:12:25,150
But I feel like the biggest one should be, um,

1492
01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:28,310
when I first came to America and I didn't know, uh, about

1493
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:31,230
credit score and all these credit cards decided

1494
01:12:31,230 --> 01:12:34,200
to give me credit Cards. And, uh,

1495
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:37,150
I had like four or five with different. And

1496
01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:39,990
in the beginning, I was doing good. You know, I was new, I was

1497
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:42,830
decorating, I was traveling. And then eventually

1498
01:12:43,230 --> 01:12:46,190
I got lazy into paying back that, you know,

1499
01:12:46,190 --> 01:12:49,070
and then they just piled up. And then now you

1500
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learn all your credit score goes down or now you can't get anything

1501
01:12:52,070 --> 01:12:54,670
on credit. And so I think that was.

1502
01:12:55,310 --> 01:12:58,310
And ever since then, I have not had a credit

1503
01:12:58,310 --> 01:13:01,070
card. And I've lived in this. This space where

1504
01:13:01,470 --> 01:13:04,390
if I can't afford it by cash with my

1505
01:13:04,390 --> 01:13:07,310
debit, I can't afford it. We will

1506
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:10,110
work hard and find it. Like, I literally

1507
01:13:10,270 --> 01:13:12,990
got a credit card last

1508
01:13:12,990 --> 01:13:15,390
week. I don't know why they sent it to me.

1509
01:13:17,470 --> 01:13:19,310
>> Anthony Weaver: Did you apply for it? I mean.

1510
01:13:21,150 --> 01:13:24,030
>> Paula Sima: I don't know. Fidelity. Fidelity,

1511
01:13:24,030 --> 01:13:25,070
please answer me. Why

1512
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,120
investment? Why did y' all send. And especially

1513
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,400
since I, uh, I cashed out my

1514
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,400
401k and then they sent me a credit card. So I don't know

1515
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,240
what was going on. Which I

1516
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,640
also not sure if I did the right thing cashing out my

1517
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:43,320
401k. But I also don't really give a.

1518
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:46,320
Right now with my financial situation. Everything

1519
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,000
is just like. But, um, that was

1520
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,760
probably the biggest mistake. And I thought.

1521
01:13:52,470 --> 01:13:55,310
And which started pissing me off with

1522
01:13:55,310 --> 01:13:57,430
my friends because they would make plans on

1523
01:13:58,950 --> 01:14:01,350
expensive places or anything, like, you know,

1524
01:14:02,070 --> 01:14:05,030
and I would say, I'm not going. They'll be like, why put it in your credit

1525
01:14:05,030 --> 01:14:07,949
card? I'm like, that's the point. I don't have a credit card. And I. Even

1526
01:14:07,949 --> 01:14:10,750
if I did, I'm not putting on something on my credit card for your

1527
01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:13,750
amusement. So. No. And. And

1528
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:16,590
I've stood by that. Even with this credit card,

1529
01:14:16,590 --> 01:14:18,510
I'm very strategic with, um,

1530
01:14:19,470 --> 01:14:22,310
has come in time where, as I said, I'm getting ready to

1531
01:14:22,310 --> 01:14:25,250
leave and stuff up with, uh, moving

1532
01:14:25,570 --> 01:14:28,450
or whatever. But I. Yeah,

1533
01:14:28,610 --> 01:14:29,410
credit cards.

1534
01:14:30,370 --> 01:14:32,770
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, number three,

1535
01:14:33,410 --> 01:14:36,370
is there a book that inspired your journey or

1536
01:14:36,370 --> 01:14:37,730
changed your perspective?

1537
01:14:39,010 --> 01:14:41,970
>> Paula Sima: Oh, my God, yes. And I can't find that book.

1538
01:14:42,290 --> 01:14:44,770
Pope Francis, what's the name of that book?

1539
01:14:45,250 --> 01:14:47,690
Maybe I should go find the email that I

1540
01:14:47,690 --> 01:14:50,540
responded to. Okay, let's go to the

1541
01:14:50,540 --> 01:14:52,220
last one and then I'll come back to this.

1542
01:14:52,220 --> 01:14:55,100
>> Anthony Weaver: All right, let me talk about

1543
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:55,820
some edits

1544
01:14:58,620 --> 01:14:59,580
I got you, though.

1545
01:15:00,700 --> 01:15:01,580
>> Paula Sima: You got this?

1546
01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:04,780
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. Yeah. All right, are you ready for number

1547
01:15:04,780 --> 01:15:05,340
four then?

1548
01:15:05,980 --> 01:15:06,460
>> Paula Sima: Yes.

1549
01:15:06,700 --> 01:15:08,780
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, number four,

1550
01:15:09,820 --> 01:15:12,060
what is your favorite dish to make.

1551
01:15:14,380 --> 01:15:15,850
>> Paula Sima: Any type of. Type of pasta.

1552
01:15:17,690 --> 01:15:19,380
Like, I am a pasta. Ah,

1553
01:15:20,410 --> 01:15:22,410
freak. Like, I love pasta.

1554
01:15:22,970 --> 01:15:25,290
Pasta and potatoes are my go to food.

1555
01:15:25,770 --> 01:15:27,830
My Soul food. But um,

1556
01:15:28,570 --> 01:15:31,410
I like playing because pasta you can play

1557
01:15:31,410 --> 01:15:33,530
around with different like you know,

1558
01:15:33,690 --> 01:15:35,050
Alfredo or

1559
01:15:36,180 --> 01:15:39,170
uh, just add up and make

1560
01:15:39,170 --> 01:15:40,810
it something, you know, like

1561
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:44,640
whichever spaghetti. And it doesn't just necessarily have to be

1562
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,600
pasta. Like it can be those elbows, whatever,

1563
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,360
like the spaghetti corner, the entire

1564
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,960
it. I just love playing around with it and

1565
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,600
especially with seafood. So I create

1566
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,600
my own recipes. Sometimes I look online and

1567
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:02,600
see, oh, this. But I'm a tiny this way.

1568
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:04,280
So anything pasta.

1569
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:07,320
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay, sounds good.

1570
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,440
Alrighty. Well, you know, as we come

1571
01:16:10,440 --> 01:16:13,240
through the very last question of the show,

1572
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,960
which is where could people find out more about

1573
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:16,360
you?

1574
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,600
>> Paula Sima: All right, so you can find me

1575
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,320
anywhere and everywhere at Talk Shit

1576
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:27,240
with P. Um, I'm very active

1577
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:28,520
on Instagram.

1578
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,800
I, um, will respond to Instagram DM than an email.

1579
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,430
But also in the few months,

1580
01:16:38,390 --> 01:16:41,230
uh, I, uh, I really do want to disappear out of

1581
01:16:41,230 --> 01:16:43,270
social media. So,

1582
01:16:43,670 --> 01:16:46,150
uh, I might be a little bit quiet

1583
01:16:46,790 --> 01:16:49,710
in the coming few months on social media, but you can

1584
01:16:49,710 --> 01:16:52,070
find me anywhere at Talk Shippy.

1585
01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:52,950
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.

1586
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:59,190
I still tell you looking for the book.

1587
01:17:00,150 --> 01:17:01,720
>> Paula Sima: Oh, give me one second.

1588
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,800
>> Anthony Weaver: No, no, no, you can.

1589
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:07,280
>> Paula Sima: You know that we are done. Oh my God.

1590
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,560
>> Anthony Weaver: Well, I mean once you get that, I just gotta do my closeout stuff

1591
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:13,120
and then if you want I can just do a close out right now.

1592
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:15,520
And then when you find.

1593
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:16,720
>> Paula Sima: Because you can just edit this.

1594
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,600
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1595
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,280
>> Paula Sima: I'm gonna mute myself.

1596
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:19,840
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay.

1597
01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:20,640
>> Paula Sima: That way I find.

1598
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:24,320
>> Anthony Weaver: All right, well,

1599
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:27,560
hopefully you got something out of this particular episode. We had an

1600
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:29,780
awesome opportunity to talk. Talk with Paula,

1601
01:17:30,110 --> 01:17:32,980
um, talk shit with P. Definitely check

1602
01:17:32,980 --> 01:17:35,820
out her podcast. And she has so many great

1603
01:17:35,820 --> 01:17:38,740
value out of it. Now if you're one of the people

1604
01:17:38,740 --> 01:17:41,390
who are actually dealing with ah,

1605
01:17:41,390 --> 01:17:44,380
depression and you feel as though, uh, this is

1606
01:17:44,380 --> 01:17:47,260
something that you might just need some help, uh, some

1607
01:17:47,260 --> 01:17:50,049
immediate help, you can just dial 988-

1608
01:17:50,260 --> 01:17:53,220
um- so that you can go ahead on and get that help today.

1609
01:17:53,540 --> 01:17:55,970
But one of the things I just want to let you know, like, hey,

1610
01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:59,240
if you ever need somebody to talk to or if

1611
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:02,120
you, if there's a topic that you want me to kind of go through,

1612
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,080
just go ahead on and shoot me a DM at

1613
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:06,920
about that wallet on

1614
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:10,890
Instagram. That's where I'm most active. Uh,

1615
01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:13,720
or even just respond to one of the episodes on,

1616
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,360
or actually respond to this episode in the show notes, let me

1617
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,360
know because one of the things that I am curious about is like,

1618
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,200
how can we help you build, build a better relationship with

1619
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,720
yourself and also with your money.

1620
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:28,920
So with that everybody, I wish Y' all the best. We out.

1621
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:29,720
Peace.

1622
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:35,240
>> Paula Sima: All right. Ask me that question about the book again. I found it.

1623
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,520
>> Anthony Weaver: Okay. Ah, well, make sure I got

1624
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:41,520
my. Because, you know, I got my little. My

1625
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:42,120
little notes.

1626
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,370
Okay. Number, um,

1627
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,590
three. Is there a book that inspired

1628
01:18:48,670 --> 01:18:50,990
your journey or change your perspective?

1629
01:18:52,430 --> 01:18:55,350
>> Paula Sima: Yes, that will be, um, the Name of

1630
01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:58,310
God is Mercy by Pope Francis. That

1631
01:18:58,310 --> 01:19:01,150
was a very good read. It stays with me

1632
01:19:01,870 --> 01:19:04,630
until today. And I might just order another. The.

1633
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:07,590
The. The book. The copy right now on Amazon because I

1634
01:19:07,590 --> 01:19:08,910
might need to read it again.

1635
01:19:09,790 --> 01:19:12,270
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, it'll be probably good for your journey, I guess.

1636
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:14,760
>> Paula Sima: It is indeed.

1637
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,160
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah. All right.

1638
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:20,760
For my edits. But

1639
01:19:22,440 --> 01:19:23,800
I know what to edit.

1640
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:25,080
>> Paula Sima: All right.

1641
01:19:25,670 --> 01:19:26,920
>> Anthony Weaver: Um, cool.

1642
01:19:27,000 --> 01:19:29,399
>> Paula Sima: Oh, wow. We spoke for one and a half hour.

1643
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,560
>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, dude. I know it's been recording that long,

1644
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,520
but, um, I'm sure we only. Yeah, it's been about that

1645
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:36,200
long. All right,

1646
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:38,960
it's back.

1647
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,360
>> Paula Sima: It's been recording that wrong, but that's how long we've

1648
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:43,040
been talking.

1649
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,200
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, I mean, I'mma keep it. I'mma try to keep it

1650
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:49,040
as raw as possible, obviously at the end, move

1651
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:51,720
some things around. But, um, my

1652
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,600
audience do enjoy the long episodes because they do have

1653
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:57,600
long drives where they listen to the show when they going on

1654
01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:00,520
flights and stuff like that. So. But like I said, I

1655
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,520
do have an AI episode that would do a summary of all of

1656
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:04,730
this for like 10 minutes.

1657
01:20:05,440 --> 01:20:08,440
>> Paula Sima: So the air comes out and this

1658
01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:11,040
one comes out. And I will make sure to

1659
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:14,480
shade promote it. Is there anything you need from my end?

1660
01:20:15,370 --> 01:20:18,360
>> Anthony Weaver: Um, no. If you haven't already subscribed to the

1661
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,040
show on, uh, Spotify, like, do you listen to

1662
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,400
Spotify? Uh, Apple.

1663
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,480
>> Paula Sima: What if I up. Even though I have.

1664
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,400
I mean, I just enjoying Spotify, but I normally

1665
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:31,110
go live reviews on Apple, but. Yeah, okay.

1666
01:20:31,110 --> 01:20:33,910
>> Anthony Weaver: Yeah, if you can just leave a review that'll be helpful for me.

1667
01:20:34,230 --> 01:20:36,910
>> Paula Sima: I. Every time I. I always

1668
01:20:36,910 --> 01:20:39,870
wait until the episode comes out and then I listen to

1669
01:20:39,870 --> 01:20:41,830
it and then I write a review.

1670
01:20:42,630 --> 01:20:45,190
Because whenever I guess I write a review as

1671
01:20:45,670 --> 01:20:48,550
being a guest, but also as you

1672
01:20:48,550 --> 01:20:49,350
being the host.

1673
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:52,910
>> Anthony Weaver: Ah, I like that. Okay, I need to go back to some of mine that

1674
01:20:52,910 --> 01:20:55,790
I've been. I

1675
01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:58,660
like that. Um, so yeah, if you ever need

1676
01:20:58,660 --> 01:21:01,540
me to. Well, that's right. You're already locked in and you're probably

1677
01:21:01,540 --> 01:21:04,540
not doing any more anytime soon. You're more than welcome to

1678
01:21:04,540 --> 01:21:05,580
come on a live panel.

1679
01:21:06,140 --> 01:21:09,060
>> Paula Sima: Yeah, when I figure out what I'm

1680
01:21:09,060 --> 01:21:11,660
doing. Season 10. Because these episodes,

1681
01:21:12,050 --> 01:21:14,860
um, I'm putting them up from. They're gonna start

1682
01:21:14,860 --> 01:21:17,860
going out from next week, and by March they'll

1683
01:21:17,860 --> 01:21:20,740
be done. So I feel like season 10,

1684
01:21:20,740 --> 01:21:23,720
because I want to end it this year. So I feel like I

1685
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,320
will work on

1686
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,320
that and

1687
01:21:30,480 --> 01:21:32,000
start it maybe around,

1688
01:21:34,070 --> 01:21:36,720
uh. Because the project I'm working on right now.

1689
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,360
Let me see. Let me.

1690
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:40,160
>> Anthony Weaver: You gotta remove the filter. That's all.

1691
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:42,520
>> Paula Sima: Yeah. Let me remove my background.

1692
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,200
>> Anthony Weaver: Oh, let me stop the recording. Hold on.

1693
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,280
That recording.