Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show
that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with
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the magic of movies.
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Today, we're discussing The Wood, a
nostalgic comedy with a classic hip hop
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laced soundtrack.
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We're three old heads who put their old
heads together to vibe on these films for
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you.
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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,
longtime hip hop fan, and I'm glad to say
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I saw OutKast at least once in 2002 on the
Smokin' Grooves Tour.
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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, long
time hip hop fan, and I'm a big fan of
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baseball references in hip hop songs, like
when the Beastie Boys mention Rod Carew or
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Sadaharu Oh or Q -Tip mentions Lou Brock
and the Braves and the Yankees.
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This is my Venn diagram.
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I'm BooGie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan,
and I have a series of old school hip hop
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mixes that are titled The Throwback
Series.
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Check them out sometime.
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In this episode we'll answer the question,
is The Wood worth watching?
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We'll give you five key takeaways to make
you a smarter hip -hop movie fan.
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The Wood is a coming of age romantic
comedy which tells the tale of Roland
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getting cold feet on his wedding day.
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And we are invited to a front row seat to
Ro, Slim and Mike's often awkward high
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school years as they bond in Inglewood,
California.
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Here are five things you need to know
about The Wood.
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This is low on the end of the range of
what we would define as hip -hop movies,
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but the soundtrack is full of 80s and 90s
jams.
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Number two, for a man of a certain age,
it's a familiar ride through the
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awkwardness of junior high and high
school.
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Number three, strong chemistry among the
lead actors who give it a warmth to their
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origin story.
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The flashbacks make the movie, sorry.
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Number four, the flashbacks make the movie
and most of the runtime.
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And number five, as with many films made
before the smartphone era, some things
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will be different about the story today.
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Right on.
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All right, let's get right into it.
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First takeaway was, it's on the low end
range of what would be defined by us as
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hip hop movies, but the soundtrack is full
of 80s and 90s jams.
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So let's dig right into the soundtrack,
because I loved it as I do with other
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films by Rick Famuyiwa So who wants to
kick us off about the soundtrack and what
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are the jams you liked and how did they
play out within the story?
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Yeah, I got a list of them.
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I can run through half of them.
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I can run through them.
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But I would start off with the opening
credits.
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Back in the day, classic.
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Yeah, very appropriate for the type of
movie that we're about to see because as
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we're talking about Ro getting cold feet,
a lot of the movie, as mentioned, does
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take place in flashback scenes as the
three gentlemen are growing up in.
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starts off in middle school into high
school.
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So that was a very good one.
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We got Eric B is President by Eric B and
Rakim.
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And that is playing as Mike is basically
telling a story about how his family moved
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from North Carolina to Inglewood and he's
kind of transitioning and showing the
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layout for Inglewood and what we're about
to come across as you know, we get
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familiar with the neighborhood that
they're in.
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Yeah, You'll Be Illin by Run DMC.
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And that's playing while Ro and Slim dare
Mike to grab Alicia's butt on the first
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day of school.
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Not the second, but the first day of
school.
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Yes.
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Yeah, that was some hazing like, hey, you
gonna hang with us, a new kid from North
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Carolina?
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This is something I dare you to do for
like a dollar.
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They set him up.
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We have Make the Music with Your Mouth Biz
by the late legendary Biz Markie as Mike
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is trying to practice his dancing moves
before the first school dance.
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And he realized that before that, that he
didn't know how to dance.
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Then we have The Freaks Come Out at Night
by Whodini as the trio of them are walking
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up to the school for the dance.
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Yeah, if there's other ones I can keep
going or I can pass it off.
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Yeah, you want to chime in with something
DynoWright?
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I know you would identify a few as well.
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no, BooGie covered it.
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I just want to mention that it might be
debatable whether we think this is a hip
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-hop movie or not.
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It does provide some of the soundtrack to
the happenings.
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But I think that's about the extent of the
hip -hop movie -ness of it.
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Yeah, for us, this is kind of like Golden
Age.
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It's kind of like from the infancy up into
the Golden Age, like late 80s, early 90s.
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Like some of those jams you mentioned are
like all timers.
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And Peter Piper was played and They Call
Me D-Nice And like, those are just beats
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that are constantly played or sampled in
the clubs.
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And,
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you just nod your head as you go along.
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So it's a fun time.
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And just like I said, just like he does
with all the other movies, and especially
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we just recently watched Dope, which
covered a lot of 90s hip hop.
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This is a little bit earlier and it's
awesome.
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Soundtrack's amazing.
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give me a soundtrack with Eric B and
Rakim, Run-DMC you know, KRS- 1, classic D
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-Nice.
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Like, talk about D -Nice, like, we
remember D -Nice as being able to rap.
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This generation knows him as a DJ.
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I mean, he DJ'd back then, but he DJ'd and
rapped.
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Like now, he's sort of, you know,
primarily known as DJ.
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But yes, D -Nice actually had skills on
the mic.
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Yeah, that's all right.
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He's big time DJ.
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So the next takeaway, takeaway two was for
men of a certain age, it's a familiar ride
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through the awkwardness of junior high and
high school.
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So I'll talk a little bit about it and
kind of hand it off.
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Yeah, I mean, you do see the awkwardness
around girls that these guys had, you
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know, the crushes and.
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yeah.
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You know, getting aroused at an
inappropriate time and, you know, hiding,
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you know, in the classroom, things like
that, you know, betting who can, who can,
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you know, lose their virginity and stuff
like that.
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Very reminiscent of a lot of awkwardness
that teenage boys talk about or used to
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back then.
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Dyno Wright.
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You want to expand upon some of, some of
the.
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those types of antics.
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yeah, antics is the right word for it.
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Antics and, you know, I think I think all
of us can relate to a lot of that
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awkwardness and trying to present yourself
basically fronting that you know what
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you're doing.
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No one really does.
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And in some cases, treating women badly,
unfortunate, but it did happen and it
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still happens.
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And.
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you know, things like touching her butt or
like, you know, setting out on a mission
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to get as many numbers as you can.
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Like, it's, you know, it's treated
accurately, I think, in the movie.
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So it's really relatable in that way.
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Like we see in a lot of these movies, it's
juvenile stuff and it's inappropriate
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behavior.
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And we'd like to think that we've evolved
as a society, but it did happen, it still
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does happen.
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And that was part of their coming of age
for these guys.
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The other things they would do for sex.
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You could relate to it.
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Yeah, I think from like from the moment
Mike saw Alicia, he was almost obsessed
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with her.
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It was so funny in the beginning, you
know, that the awkward moment, you know,
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teachers trying to get him to introduce
himself to the class and he's...
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But they made some, I mean, I like how
they made light of the awkwardness.
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Like in that moment, how they played that
scene, that whole scene, how they
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didn't...
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just make it like so, you know, he got
picked on, he got through the moment, but
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it was kind of humorous.
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You know, even the whole scene with Ro and
Slim daring you know, Mike to touch
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Alicia's butt, you know, they made it,
they put a little humor to it.
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They had that, I call it the Spanish
matador music, which actually was in the
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soundtrack in a song called the Bullfight
Dramatico.
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I'm like, I didn't realize that.
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the name of the song.
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I hear it all the time, but now I know the
name of it.
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You know, they played the song as he's
rounding, you know, he's running around
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trying to get the right angle to get in
there.
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But it was funny.
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But, you know, the contest, you know, even
that part, they were joking around trying
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to see who can get the most numbers and
throughout the party.
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And there were different scenes, you know,
different scenes going on.
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They were dancing and
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Mike got to show off his Dance Fever
moves.
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I like how they put the little humor to
it.
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Even the bet, they made it a little
humorous to it in that aspect where it's
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like, yeah, it was a serious topic, but it
was, hey, that's what, it's one of those
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quote unquote, boys will be boys type.
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And then even when it gets towards the end
and they're like, you know, they're
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actually at the dance as high schoolers
and they're hanging outside and they're
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like, yo, you know, I think we should do
this forever.
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Like what?
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You know, macking and hanging.
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It's like, you know, getting, not being
tied down by one woman, but just
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continuously, you know, running through
the ranks and just, you know, but it's
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like, yeah.
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Of course we know that it didn't really
happen because.
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The whole premise of the story is get Ro
to the altar.
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But I like how they added a little bit of
humor to trying to get through those
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awkward topics.
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Yeah, I think it was done well in that way
because, you know, it's not awkward and
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sad.
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Like, we went through this as in our own
growing up.
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Like, none of that stuff was like somber.
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It was just sort of kind of funny, like,
ha ha ha.
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So I think the accuracy of it is
endearing.
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And there were repercussions for Mike's
indiscretion, you know, touch a butt, you
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know, she called her brother and said,
listen my brother's gonna come and he did
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beat him up.
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And so like that harkens back to like the
school yard brawls and stuff and people
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watching around and rallying around and
his newly found friends, you know,
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somewhat supported them.
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They had his back a little bit and they
started getting, catching some strays.
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They started catching some strays like,
all right, you got this, you know, but.
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You know, Alicia comes in and is like,
alright stop.
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But an interesting dynamic later on with
her brother, Stacey, you know, with him
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sticking up the store and the relationship
between all of those guys.
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Not to give it away, but yeah, I think it
was well done.
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Yeah, that's the whole scene where he was,
you know, when he's in class and he knows
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what's gonna happen after school.
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So Alicia said her brother was coming,
he's watching the clock like, God, God,
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God.
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It reminiscence like that, you know, three
o 'clock high or that, you know, after
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school beat down or, you know, he's like
watching the clock like, man, man.
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But yeah, as you hinted JB, he definitely,
you know, there was a...
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a shift in a relationship between him and
the older brother, Stacey.
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He actually ended up getting kind of
Stacey's respect in some aspects.
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Another takeaway was the strong chemistry
among the male lead actors and that gives
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a warmth to the origin story.
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So there's a lot of this male bonding that
you can really relate to.
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Dyno Wright, you want to take us through a
little bit of that?
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Sure.
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So even the movies, we'll talk about the
flashbacks, but the movie sort of takes
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place in two timeframes.
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It's the junior high and high school time,
and then it's the modern time.
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And so even the adult versions of them,
the Omar Epps, Richard T.
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Jones and Taye Diggs, they have a very
good chemistry together.
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You can feel the warmth that was built
through the experiences that they had at
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junior and.
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in high school played by played by played
by Trent Cameron, Sean Nelson and Duane
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Finley.
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So in that play, in that sense, it moves
back and forth between the flashbacks and
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the modern times.
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And I had some problems with that, but
they really did a good job of casting
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these young versions of them.
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And you could really you can really feel
the warmth that they had for each other.
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And that continued.
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into their adulthood.
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Yeah, it was very believable.
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They played really well off each other as
youngsters and even in modern day versions
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as well.
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And I'll say, you know, Roger Ebert brings
this up, but a lot of films in that time
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period don't really portray young Black
men in this kind of way.
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They're stereotypically like gang bangers
or some other, you know, they're doing
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something else than just being like high
school kids.
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Even Slim, they allude to him being an
athlete, but they don't really, you don't
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really see that in the movie.
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They...
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gesture at it.
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But similar to Dope, we reviewed last
week, he shines a light on a marginalized
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group of a marginalized group.
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And so the normal, I guess, kind of Black
kids that aren't like drug dealers or
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something like that, they get caught up a
little bit in the lifestyle when they get
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stuck in the convenience store when it's
getting held up.
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But other than that, it wasn't like the
defining
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thing in their lives.
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So that was kind of nice to see a
different kind of, similar we saw in Dope,
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you know, a different kind of people
within its population.
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So, and they did a really good job of just
having that kind of portrayal.
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So, yeah, good male bonding stuff.
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think of it from that perspective.
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Think of all the movies we've covered up
at this time that featured younger Black
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men and the great majority of them
involves drugs or violence or a life of
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crime.
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It is refreshing to see just buddy film,
like comedy.
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buddy, you know, there's a lot of
different kinds of film in this one film.
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Yeah.
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me a normal coming of age story of some
kids growing up.
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And then we see them in their older selves
and we see that they actually made it
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through successfully and are living a
normal life.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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because you think of like the Brat Pack or
the Frat Pack and all those guys.
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It's like these white guys, a lot of these
films are buddy -buddy films and the big
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box office smashes, but you don't really
see that much with, it was primarily a
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Black cast.
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Like I didn't really see too many white
folks.
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And that was interesting because it was
unique, especially for that timeframe.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I mean, and I mean, it definitely allude
to the lifestyle.
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You know, the first thing they asked, one
of the first things they asked Mike was he
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Cuzz or Bloods.
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So you know there's Bloods and Crips in
the neighborhood.
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And then we see this, you know, with
Stacey and his crew, you know, we find out
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that they are Bloods.
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So we know that there's the element in the
neighborhood, you know, stores are getting
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stuck up.
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You know, there's still the element of,
you know, police seeing young Black men in
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the car and pulling them over.
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wanting to harass them for whatever
reason.
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I mean, yeah, you say the tail lights out,
but there's no reason for them to be
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pulled out of the car.
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If they're on a search, they're on a
search.
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If they're tail light out, give them a
ticket and send them home.
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You know, stuff like that.
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are there.
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It's not like dominating the story that,
you know, they live in, you know,
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Inglewood and all that entails.
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I guess I'll address, I don't know what to
call it, elephant in the room, but I was
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thinking that would have been like white
cops, it may have a different story
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because of all the history, you know?
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And I'm like, man, you know?
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That was intentional probably, the way
they scripted it and everything, yeah.
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Yeah, definitely intentional.
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Well, I mean, even like, even NWA, but NWA
would even allude to it in some of their
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lyrics.
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They say, yeah, you know, we had white
cops in the neighborhoods, but some of the
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ones that treated us the worst were the
Black ones.
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Yeah.
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So, I mean, it could have gone either way.
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Yeah, for sure.
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Yeah, so chemistry was there.
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We mentioned that.
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And then the takeaway number four was the
flashbacks.
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They really make the movie and the most of
the runtime.
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Like I was shocked at like how much time
was spent back in the day, like the song
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says, but like the kids growing up.
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Yeah.
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So, BooGie, you wanna take us through some
of the happenings as the...
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They were in middle school and high
school.
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high school.
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Yeah, I can take it.
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So we had, you know, Sean Nelson, Trent
Cameron and Duane Finley, as we mentioned,
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playing the younger versions of Mike, Ro,
and Slim, in Inglewood.
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And I mean, it starts off in 1986, when
Mike's, his younger brother and his mother
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moved to Inglewood from North Carolina.
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And upon going to school, Mike encounters
Ro and Slim, and they're like, yo, are
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you...
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Like I mentioned earlier, are you Cuz or
Blood and he's like, what?
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I don't even know what you're talking
about.
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They're like, yo, maybe you need to hang
out with us so we can keep you from
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getting shot.
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They turn around and, you know, get him to
grab Alicia's butt, which prompts Alicia
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to contact her brother, Stacey, who comes
up and we already went through that.
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But again, a few months later, everything
seems to calm down and then, you know,
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they have this school dance.
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Which was kind of funny because throughout
the whole dance you hear nothing but the
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old school classics and it was great to
hear those songs.
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Then, you know, as they're, they, they,
actually before they get to the dance,
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they're like, you know, when they, they
want to go get some mints and then they
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witnessed the, you know, burglary taking
place at the convenience store.
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And then they ended up getting tagged
along into the, into that, because of, you
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know, Stacey and his crew were the
perpetrators and they, they were scared at
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the same time, but you know, they kind of
went along because what were they going to
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do?
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but like I said, you know, Mike, you know,
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you know, gets Stacey's respect and, you
know, Stacey kind of helps him out with,
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you know, trying to talk to his sister.
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You don't get too much into it there.
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But then it goes to talk about high school
and, you know, they're a little older, you
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know, Mike and Alicia no longer together
or whatever.
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So there's the bet on who can lose their
virginity first.
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And it shows like a montage of.
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the guys just trying to convince random
girls or the girlfriends, you know, how
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they move on to the next step.
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And the girls are basically like, no,
they're not buying it.
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They're not buying it.
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Which is kind of funny because they're
trying to have a little bet jar going on
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for every time they get rejected.
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At the end of the week, they have to add
money to it.
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So you just see them keep adding money to
the jar, which is showing up.
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You don't think y 'all macking, but y 'all
not.
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But yeah, it was cool, like I said, you
know, just seeing.
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some of the funny antics that these guys
try to go through, just trying to make it
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in that neighborhood.
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But yeah, it was entertaining, funny.
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And he covered it, a lot of antics and
hijinks, as we said.
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Yeah.
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Dyno Wright you wanted to talk maybe about
some of the fashion from the 90s that was
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on display?
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You
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yes, it was great to see that again.
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Even though you might think it's
questionable now, but some of those lapels
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you could really like land a pontoon boat
on.
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Yeah
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Really wonderful.
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It's great.
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the loud colors they're wearing and which
was it was it Ro's younger version with
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the the jheri curls like like the
ridiculous like jerry jheri curls back
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then yeah reminiscent of Soul Glo so yeah
Soul Glo yeah yeah it didn't
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they rubbed with the grab.
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Like wiping it off on him, man.
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I mean when was the last time you saw a
Guess?
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jacket?
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Yeah, the Guess?
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jacket.
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I remember I wanted that jacket so bad.
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-hmm.
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Yeah.
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the Guess?
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shirt underneath it, you know.
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and the very boxy shoulder pad jazz suit,
New Jack suit.
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Wonderful.
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Mike had a Member's Only jacket on the
first day of school.
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Yeah, he's definitely from a little
country.
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I have a Member's Only a jacket right now
the same color.
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I saw it and said, my God, throwback.
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so fun.
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everything retro comes back at some point
so hold on to that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, it's cool to see those throwback
fashions.
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Yeah, and takeaway five is, as with many
films made before the smartphone era, some
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things will be different about the story
today.
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What do you think would be a bit different
there, Dyno Wright?
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In that regard.
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that the three of them disappear for like
two or three hours on the wedding day.
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And like, that wouldn't happen now.
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There'd be like mad texts flowing and
stuff.
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So, or find my iPhone and they would just
like track them down.
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So, you know, that, that contrivance
doesn't, doesn't happen now.
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So it's like, okay.
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They just allowed to disappear.
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Yeah, even the bridesmaids would probably
be like...
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on a rampage trying to get him to the
wedding.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They would have got him.
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And the plot is, I'm not even sure what
the point of the movie was.
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I think the point of the movie was the
power of friendship and the power of male
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bonding, but...
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The rest of it was like, why should I be
convinced that Rolando actually likes
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Lisa?
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That was sort of tacked on at the end.
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Why are we trying to drag him to the
church or to the wedding?
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No, other than he's got cold feet.
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So why?
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Yeah.
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ex Tanya, you know, for guidance or for
safety, you know, like when he got into a
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jam.
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Yeah.
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he even alluded that you guys need to get
out of here because it's looking kind of
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good.
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I might get a last minute one in.
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you know the point of the the the driving
force of this movie was to get him to the
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wedding but they didn't really talk about
the marriage like Is this is a good idea
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They kind of glossed around it a little
bit.
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yeah, they sort of hint at it.
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So that part didn't really work for me in
this movie.
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And the flashbacks of the other, the young
versions of them were really good.
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But you think of a movie with these
actors, you don't get to see them that
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much.
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Taye Diggs and Omar Epps, and they sort of
get like second billing.
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What more can I say?
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Top billing.
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Yeah.
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sorry.
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So the one, I guess, surprise element or a
subplot was, you know, Mike being able to
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get back together with Alicia, you know,
at the end, because that was the big
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crush.
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And if you think about it or you listen
closely, they had the opportunity to kind
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of stay together because one of them went
to Columbia, one of them got into NYU or
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vice versa, but like one of them decided
not to go.
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Right.
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So.
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They had an opportunity and they didn't.
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And then it turns out that she comes back
for the wedding to see the old friends.
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And Mike's kind of surprised to see her
and they get to talking and it looks like
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they.
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Reconcile or...
443
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Yeah.
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actually go to New York this time instead
of not going like last time.
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Yeah.
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That was one thing about that, like the
movie takes all this time to talk about
447
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their relationship, but that wasn't even
like the point of the plot.
448
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I thought, we're not here about Mike and
Alicia.
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We're here to talk about Rolando and Lisa.
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We don't even see Lisa for like an hour
and a half.
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We're watching.
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I'm like looking like when they keep
showing the getting ready the bridesmaids
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like I don't even where's the bride?
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Where's the bride?
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I see the parents.
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on Frasier.
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It's Maris - It's Maris Crane or whatever
they - from Frasier.
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Like you never see her.
459
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It's like Snuffleupagus.
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00:28:07,582 --> 00:28:11,722
I like the neighbor at home improvement,
Wilson over the fence.
461
00:28:11,722 --> 00:28:13,242
You never see the person.
462
00:28:15,482 --> 00:28:16,130
man.
463
00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:18,190
The Wood.
464
00:28:19,243 --> 00:28:19,670
man.
465
00:28:19,670 --> 00:28:21,650
weird elements like that.
466
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:25,000
I actually struggled to write some of the
notes.
467
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,090
I mean, yeah, we document what happens.
468
00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:27,890
It was fun.
469
00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:31,730
I was laughing at the camaraderie and the
stuff, but the whole kind of plot thing
470
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:33,880
was kind of like a little bit odd.
471
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,290
But the soundtrack was insane.
472
00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:39,590
So I loved it.
473
00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:42,870
Yeah, it's a fun time overall.
474
00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:46,155
Yeah, there's certainly some good like
laugh lines.
475
00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:47,107
Yeah.
476
00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:49,154
So.
477
00:28:49,154 --> 00:28:49,774
felt for him.
478
00:28:49,774 --> 00:28:52,254
I felt for Slim getting his Ferragamo's
puked on.
479
00:28:52,254 --> 00:28:53,614
I mean, those are...
480
00:28:53,614 --> 00:28:55,894
Those are thousand dollar shoes now.
481
00:28:55,894 --> 00:28:58,154
I mean, I felt that.
482
00:28:58,154 --> 00:29:01,934
Someone threw up on my Park Avenue Allen
Edmonds, I'd be upset.
483
00:29:02,571 --> 00:29:03,427
Yeah.
484
00:29:05,138 --> 00:29:05,827
It was fun.
485
00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:12,587
part in the movie that had me cracking up
a little bit.
486
00:29:13,087 --> 00:29:20,547
After they left the convenience store with
Stacey and his guy Boo, and they sit in
487
00:29:20,547 --> 00:29:27,007
the back seat, and there's this dialogue
going on between Stacey and Boo's
488
00:29:27,007 --> 00:29:28,107
character.
489
00:29:28,207 --> 00:29:32,054
Stacey's like, you know, I think I might
want to become a rapper.
490
00:29:32,054 --> 00:29:34,083
Yes, that was funny.
491
00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:37,483
I'm writing an album about smoking weed.
492
00:29:37,483 --> 00:29:41,463
And Boo looks at him and says, ain't
nobody about to buy no album about smoking
493
00:29:41,463 --> 00:29:42,503
weed.
494
00:29:43,303 --> 00:29:51,043
And I look at him like, hmm, we had an
album called The Chronic.
495
00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:52,382
Yeah, yeah.
496
00:29:52,382 --> 00:29:56,552
I mean, that was an intentional joke, like
an inside joke because of the chronic,
497
00:29:56,552 --> 00:29:58,422
because of Cypress Hill.
498
00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:03,522
Like, you know, because I got high, like
seriously, like how many people, how many
499
00:30:03,522 --> 00:30:08,442
rappers, Wiz Khalifa, Snoop Dogg, like
seriously, like how many songs and artists
500
00:30:08,442 --> 00:30:14,642
have made lucrative careers around rapping
about weed?
501
00:30:14,642 --> 00:30:15,742
Seriously.
502
00:30:15,742 --> 00:30:19,474
Like that was kind of a joke, yeah,
because he was ahead of his time.
503
00:30:19,474 --> 00:30:22,204
I mean, that was like it was so close.
504
00:30:22,204 --> 00:30:23,644
It was like 1992.
505
00:30:23,644 --> 00:30:25,483
You're going to hear about it.
506
00:30:25,483 --> 00:30:26,743
Right.
507
00:30:27,363 --> 00:30:32,203
Pick up the mic in about six years, you
might be onto something.
508
00:30:32,306 --> 00:30:33,718
Yeah, exactly.
509
00:30:33,718 --> 00:30:35,908
away, Dre is like about to drop this
album.
510
00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:36,618
It's a change.
511
00:30:36,618 --> 00:30:38,318
Blow your mind.
512
00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,883
Yeah.
513
00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:42,937
the lab.
514
00:30:45,266 --> 00:30:49,046
So this movie's from 99, I think, if I
recall, right?
515
00:30:49,146 --> 00:30:55,166
So I think Rick Famuyiwa and I apologize
if I'm mispronouncing his name, it's
516
00:30:55,166 --> 00:30:59,206
tricky, but I think he's evolved as a
director.
517
00:30:59,206 --> 00:31:00,966
I think the writing got better and better.
518
00:31:00,966 --> 00:31:05,566
Dope, the dialogue, I think, was much
better.
519
00:31:06,486 --> 00:31:10,538
That funny line about the weed and rapping
and then like...
520
00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:14,094
Other funny dialogue is like the one guy
was like a savant about breath mints and
521
00:31:14,094 --> 00:31:16,294
that was kind of funny here and there.
522
00:31:16,394 --> 00:31:23,194
Other were just like little jokes inside
jokes, but I he has evolved like, I think
523
00:31:23,694 --> 00:31:26,814
he matured with his directing.
524
00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:30,434
I don't know if he wrote, you know, the
writing in his movies got, I guess, better
525
00:31:30,434 --> 00:31:31,210
too.
526
00:31:32,886 --> 00:31:36,066
I think he did write this one.
527
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:37,746
He wrote the screenplay.
528
00:31:37,746 --> 00:31:39,166
So I mean, this is his story.
529
00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:46,136
So yeah, yeah, he definitely improved, you
know, The Wood walked so of Dope could
530
00:31:46,136 --> 00:31:46,994
fly, right?
531
00:31:46,994 --> 00:31:48,414
Yeah, exactly.
532
00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:54,654
And remember, he's the guy behind Brown
Sugar also, which is a really good film as
533
00:31:54,654 --> 00:31:54,830
well.
534
00:31:54,830 --> 00:32:00,330
three years, you know, I think some of the
things he learned from Making the Wood,
535
00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:04,878
who made its way into Brown Sugar, you
know, we would re -enjoy that movie too.
536
00:32:05,963 --> 00:32:12,373
I definitely mentioned this with DOPE, the
one thing that I still find humorous.
537
00:32:12,373 --> 00:32:19,263
It's just a small thing, but it's so funny
because we get to see young Stacey in the
538
00:32:19,263 --> 00:32:25,398
woods and we see older mature security
guards, Stacey and DOPE.
539
00:32:25,398 --> 00:32:26,758
Yes.
540
00:32:28,722 --> 00:32:29,610
Yeah.
541
00:32:32,779 --> 00:32:37,139
Well, but he a little soon said, hey, ask
your father about me.
542
00:32:37,142 --> 00:32:40,262
It's like a Famuyiwa cinematic universe.
543
00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:41,562
FCU.
544
00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:44,183
it's kind of cool when people use these
guys.
545
00:32:44,183 --> 00:32:47,903
and see if he's like the, gotta look at
Brown Sugar and see if he's just a
546
00:32:47,903 --> 00:32:49,403
security guard in the background.
547
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:55,130
He got to New York and Mike didn't.
548
00:32:55,202 --> 00:32:56,162
Yeah.
549
00:32:56,862 --> 00:32:57,932
Thanks.
550
00:33:00,523 --> 00:33:03,986
Speaking of Brown Sugar we got another
Sanaa Lathan sighting
551
00:33:03,986 --> 00:33:05,546
Yes!
552
00:33:06,963 --> 00:33:07,898
You
553
00:33:07,898 --> 00:33:12,078
really is a Sanaa Lathan stan podcast
anymore.
554
00:33:14,098 --> 00:33:15,408
It's fine with me.
555
00:33:15,573 --> 00:33:17,766
How many mentions?
556
00:33:17,766 --> 00:33:20,786
the analysis, her name gets mentioned the
most.
557
00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:21,738
Yeah.
558
00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:28,323
I mean, although, you know, we got Lisa
Ray in here now, so that's a, she got some
559
00:33:28,323 --> 00:33:29,163
comp.
560
00:33:29,718 --> 00:33:31,878
Well...
561
00:33:34,699 --> 00:33:35,634
Yeah.
562
00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:36,126
Sanaa Lathan.
563
00:33:36,126 --> 00:33:38,494
We gotta get her on the podcast.
564
00:33:39,883 --> 00:33:42,578
Somebody knows our get her on the podcast
565
00:33:42,578 --> 00:33:44,938
If anybody knows her, reach out to us.
566
00:33:44,938 --> 00:33:48,074
hiphopmovieclub .gmail .com Hook us up.
567
00:33:48,126 --> 00:33:49,326
right.
568
00:33:49,906 --> 00:33:51,425
We got a lot of love for her.
569
00:33:58,194 --> 00:34:03,146
Alright fellas, let's go around the room
and give our ratings for The Wood.
570
00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:07,150
BooGie, for this movie The Wood.
571
00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:10,246
Bring that funky flick back or leave it in
the vault?
572
00:34:11,787 --> 00:34:15,487
Yeah, I've seen this quite a few times
already, so I'm gonna bring a funky flick
573
00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:16,487
back.
574
00:34:16,767 --> 00:34:18,567
It makes me laugh.
575
00:34:18,738 --> 00:34:20,418
Yeah.
576
00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:21,538
Dyno Wright?
577
00:34:21,538 --> 00:34:22,318
What is your rating?
578
00:34:22,318 --> 00:34:25,150
Bring that funky flick back or leave it in
the vault.
579
00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:29,664
Despite the gripes I have, bring this
funky flick back.
580
00:34:32,146 --> 00:34:34,946
Yes, and that makes three of us.
581
00:34:35,046 --> 00:34:39,886
The soundtrack, the camaraderie, it is a
fun, fun movie.
582
00:34:40,246 --> 00:34:42,878
And so bring that funky flick back for me
as well.
583
00:34:45,334 --> 00:34:46,416
Okay.
584
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:58,052
Come for the music, stay for the
gratuitous male nudity in the movie.
585
00:34:58,322 --> 00:35:00,842
I forgot about that part.
586
00:35:01,010 --> 00:35:03,270
you know, you don't really see that in
movies these days.
587
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:04,190
Whoa.
588
00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:05,210
OK.
589
00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:07,570
All right, then.
590
00:35:07,735 --> 00:35:15,294
if any of our listeners are into those
guys, you know, make them a surprise.
591
00:35:17,918 --> 00:35:23,378
The moon is out over Inglewood.
592
00:35:23,378 --> 00:35:24,638
The moons.
593
00:35:24,898 --> 00:35:27,558
You can see the moon during the day.
594
00:35:30,538 --> 00:35:37,498
Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your
HHMC's JB, BooGie and Dyno Wright.
595
00:35:37,498 --> 00:35:39,318
Theme music by BooGie.
596
00:35:39,318 --> 00:35:43,278
Whether you're listening to the podcast or
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597
00:35:43,278 --> 00:35:44,238
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598
00:35:44,338 --> 00:35:45,738
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599
00:35:45,738 --> 00:35:47,510
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600
00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:48,910
Thanks for tuning in.
601
00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:53,900
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602
00:35:57,426 --> 00:35:58,946
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603
00:36:00,918 --> 00:36:04,385
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