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Welcome to Hip Hop Movie Club, the show

that harmonizes the rhythm of hip hop with

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the magic of movies.

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Today, we're discussing The Wood, a

nostalgic comedy with a classic hip hop

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laced soundtrack.

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We're three old heads who put their old

heads together to vibe on these films for

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you.

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I'm Dyno Wright, podcaster, filmmaker,

longtime hip hop fan, and I'm glad to say

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I saw OutKast at least once in 2002 on the

Smokin' Grooves Tour.

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I'm JB, 80s and 90s nostalgia junkie, long

time hip hop fan, and I'm a big fan of

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baseball references in hip hop songs, like

when the Beastie Boys mention Rod Carew or

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Sadaharu Oh or Q -Tip mentions Lou Brock

and the Braves and the Yankees.

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This is my Venn diagram.

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I'm BooGie, a DJ, long time hip hop fan,

and I have a series of old school hip hop

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mixes that are titled The Throwback

Series.

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Check them out sometime.

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In this episode we'll answer the question,

is The Wood worth watching?

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We'll give you five key takeaways to make

you a smarter hip -hop movie fan.

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The Wood is a coming of age romantic

comedy which tells the tale of Roland

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getting cold feet on his wedding day.

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And we are invited to a front row seat to

Ro, Slim and Mike's often awkward high

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school years as they bond in Inglewood,

California.

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Here are five things you need to know

about The Wood.

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This is low on the end of the range of

what we would define as hip -hop movies,

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but the soundtrack is full of 80s and 90s

jams.

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Number two, for a man of a certain age,

it's a familiar ride through the

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awkwardness of junior high and high

school.

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Number three, strong chemistry among the

lead actors who give it a warmth to their

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origin story.

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The flashbacks make the movie, sorry.

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Number four, the flashbacks make the movie

and most of the runtime.

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And number five, as with many films made

before the smartphone era, some things

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will be different about the story today.

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Right on.

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All right, let's get right into it.

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First takeaway was, it's on the low end

range of what would be defined by us as

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hip hop movies, but the soundtrack is full

of 80s and 90s jams.

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So let's dig right into the soundtrack,

because I loved it as I do with other

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films by Rick Famuyiwa So who wants to

kick us off about the soundtrack and what

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are the jams you liked and how did they

play out within the story?

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Yeah, I got a list of them.

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I can run through half of them.

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I can run through them.

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But I would start off with the opening

credits.

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Back in the day, classic.

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Yeah, very appropriate for the type of

movie that we're about to see because as

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we're talking about Ro getting cold feet,

a lot of the movie, as mentioned, does

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take place in flashback scenes as the

three gentlemen are growing up in.

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starts off in middle school into high

school.

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So that was a very good one.

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We got Eric B is President by Eric B and

Rakim.

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And that is playing as Mike is basically

telling a story about how his family moved

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from North Carolina to Inglewood and he's

kind of transitioning and showing the

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layout for Inglewood and what we're about

to come across as you know, we get

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familiar with the neighborhood that

they're in.

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Yeah, You'll Be Illin by Run DMC.

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And that's playing while Ro and Slim dare

Mike to grab Alicia's butt on the first

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day of school.

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Not the second, but the first day of

school.

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Yes.

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Yeah, that was some hazing like, hey, you

gonna hang with us, a new kid from North

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Carolina?

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This is something I dare you to do for

like a dollar.

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They set him up.

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We have Make the Music with Your Mouth Biz

by the late legendary Biz Markie as Mike

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is trying to practice his dancing moves

before the first school dance.

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And he realized that before that, that he

didn't know how to dance.

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Then we have The Freaks Come Out at Night

by Whodini as the trio of them are walking

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up to the school for the dance.

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Yeah, if there's other ones I can keep

going or I can pass it off.

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Yeah, you want to chime in with something

DynoWright?

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I know you would identify a few as well.

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no, BooGie covered it.

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I just want to mention that it might be

debatable whether we think this is a hip

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-hop movie or not.

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It does provide some of the soundtrack to

the happenings.

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But I think that's about the extent of the

hip -hop movie -ness of it.

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Yeah, for us, this is kind of like Golden

Age.

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It's kind of like from the infancy up into

the Golden Age, like late 80s, early 90s.

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Like some of those jams you mentioned are

like all timers.

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And Peter Piper was played and They Call

Me D-Nice And like, those are just beats

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that are constantly played or sampled in

the clubs.

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And,

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you just nod your head as you go along.

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So it's a fun time.

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And just like I said, just like he does

with all the other movies, and especially

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we just recently watched Dope, which

covered a lot of 90s hip hop.

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This is a little bit earlier and it's

awesome.

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Soundtrack's amazing.

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give me a soundtrack with Eric B and

Rakim, Run-DMC you know, KRS- 1, classic D

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-Nice.

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Like, talk about D -Nice, like, we

remember D -Nice as being able to rap.

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This generation knows him as a DJ.

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I mean, he DJ'd back then, but he DJ'd and

rapped.

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Like now, he's sort of, you know,

primarily known as DJ.

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But yes, D -Nice actually had skills on

the mic.

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Yeah, that's all right.

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He's big time DJ.

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So the next takeaway, takeaway two was for

men of a certain age, it's a familiar ride

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through the awkwardness of junior high and

high school.

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So I'll talk a little bit about it and

kind of hand it off.

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Yeah, I mean, you do see the awkwardness

around girls that these guys had, you

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know, the crushes and.

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yeah.

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You know, getting aroused at an

inappropriate time and, you know, hiding,

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you know, in the classroom, things like

that, you know, betting who can, who can,

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you know, lose their virginity and stuff

like that.

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Very reminiscent of a lot of awkwardness

that teenage boys talk about or used to

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back then.

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Dyno Wright.

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You want to expand upon some of, some of

the.

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those types of antics.

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yeah, antics is the right word for it.

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Antics and, you know, I think I think all

of us can relate to a lot of that

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awkwardness and trying to present yourself

basically fronting that you know what

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you're doing.

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No one really does.

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And in some cases, treating women badly,

unfortunate, but it did happen and it

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still happens.

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And.

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you know, things like touching her butt or

like, you know, setting out on a mission

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to get as many numbers as you can.

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Like, it's, you know, it's treated

accurately, I think, in the movie.

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So it's really relatable in that way.

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Like we see in a lot of these movies, it's

juvenile stuff and it's inappropriate

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behavior.

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And we'd like to think that we've evolved

as a society, but it did happen, it still

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does happen.

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And that was part of their coming of age

for these guys.

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The other things they would do for sex.

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You could relate to it.

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Yeah, I think from like from the moment

Mike saw Alicia, he was almost obsessed

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with her.

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It was so funny in the beginning, you

know, that the awkward moment, you know,

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teachers trying to get him to introduce

himself to the class and he's...

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But they made some, I mean, I like how

they made light of the awkwardness.

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Like in that moment, how they played that

scene, that whole scene, how they

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didn't...

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just make it like so, you know, he got

picked on, he got through the moment, but

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it was kind of humorous.

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You know, even the whole scene with Ro and

Slim daring you know, Mike to touch

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Alicia's butt, you know, they made it,

they put a little humor to it.

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They had that, I call it the Spanish

matador music, which actually was in the

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soundtrack in a song called the Bullfight

Dramatico.

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I'm like, I didn't realize that.

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the name of the song.

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I hear it all the time, but now I know the

name of it.

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You know, they played the song as he's

rounding, you know, he's running around

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trying to get the right angle to get in

there.

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But it was funny.

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But, you know, the contest, you know, even

that part, they were joking around trying

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to see who can get the most numbers and

throughout the party.

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And there were different scenes, you know,

different scenes going on.

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They were dancing and

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Mike got to show off his Dance Fever

moves.

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I like how they put the little humor to

it.

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Even the bet, they made it a little

humorous to it in that aspect where it's

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like, yeah, it was a serious topic, but it

was, hey, that's what, it's one of those

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quote unquote, boys will be boys type.

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And then even when it gets towards the end

and they're like, you know, they're

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actually at the dance as high schoolers

and they're hanging outside and they're

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like, yo, you know, I think we should do

this forever.

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Like what?

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You know, macking and hanging.

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It's like, you know, getting, not being

tied down by one woman, but just

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continuously, you know, running through

the ranks and just, you know, but it's

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like, yeah.

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Of course we know that it didn't really

happen because.

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The whole premise of the story is get Ro

to the altar.

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But I like how they added a little bit of

humor to trying to get through those

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awkward topics.

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Yeah, I think it was done well in that way

because, you know, it's not awkward and

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sad.

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Like, we went through this as in our own

growing up.

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Like, none of that stuff was like somber.

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It was just sort of kind of funny, like,

ha ha ha.

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So I think the accuracy of it is

endearing.

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And there were repercussions for Mike's

indiscretion, you know, touch a butt, you

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know, she called her brother and said,

listen my brother's gonna come and he did

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beat him up.

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And so like that harkens back to like the

school yard brawls and stuff and people

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watching around and rallying around and

his newly found friends, you know,

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somewhat supported them.

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They had his back a little bit and they

started getting, catching some strays.

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They started catching some strays like,

all right, you got this, you know, but.

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You know, Alicia comes in and is like,

alright stop.

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But an interesting dynamic later on with

her brother, Stacey, you know, with him

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sticking up the store and the relationship

between all of those guys.

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Not to give it away, but yeah, I think it

was well done.

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Yeah, that's the whole scene where he was,

you know, when he's in class and he knows

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what's gonna happen after school.

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So Alicia said her brother was coming,

he's watching the clock like, God, God,

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God.

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It reminiscence like that, you know, three

o 'clock high or that, you know, after

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school beat down or, you know, he's like

watching the clock like, man, man.

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But yeah, as you hinted JB, he definitely,

you know, there was a...

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a shift in a relationship between him and

the older brother, Stacey.

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He actually ended up getting kind of

Stacey's respect in some aspects.

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Another takeaway was the strong chemistry

among the male lead actors and that gives

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a warmth to the origin story.

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So there's a lot of this male bonding that

you can really relate to.

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Dyno Wright, you want to take us through a

little bit of that?

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Sure.

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So even the movies, we'll talk about the

flashbacks, but the movie sort of takes

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place in two timeframes.

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It's the junior high and high school time,

and then it's the modern time.

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And so even the adult versions of them,

the Omar Epps, Richard T.

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Jones and Taye Diggs, they have a very

good chemistry together.

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You can feel the warmth that was built

through the experiences that they had at

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junior and.

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in high school played by played by played

by Trent Cameron, Sean Nelson and Duane

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Finley.

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So in that play, in that sense, it moves

back and forth between the flashbacks and

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the modern times.

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And I had some problems with that, but

they really did a good job of casting

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these young versions of them.

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And you could really you can really feel

the warmth that they had for each other.

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And that continued.

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into their adulthood.

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Yeah, it was very believable.

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They played really well off each other as

youngsters and even in modern day versions

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as well.

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And I'll say, you know, Roger Ebert brings

this up, but a lot of films in that time

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period don't really portray young Black

men in this kind of way.

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They're stereotypically like gang bangers

or some other, you know, they're doing

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something else than just being like high

school kids.

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Even Slim, they allude to him being an

athlete, but they don't really, you don't

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really see that in the movie.

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They...

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gesture at it.

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But similar to Dope, we reviewed last

week, he shines a light on a marginalized

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group of a marginalized group.

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And so the normal, I guess, kind of Black

kids that aren't like drug dealers or

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something like that, they get caught up a

little bit in the lifestyle when they get

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stuck in the convenience store when it's

getting held up.

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But other than that, it wasn't like the

defining

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thing in their lives.

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So that was kind of nice to see a

different kind of, similar we saw in Dope,

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you know, a different kind of people

within its population.

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So, and they did a really good job of just

having that kind of portrayal.

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So, yeah, good male bonding stuff.

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think of it from that perspective.

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Think of all the movies we've covered up

at this time that featured younger Black

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men and the great majority of them

involves drugs or violence or a life of

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crime.

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It is refreshing to see just buddy film,

like comedy.

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buddy, you know, there's a lot of

different kinds of film in this one film.

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Yeah.

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me a normal coming of age story of some

kids growing up.

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And then we see them in their older selves

and we see that they actually made it

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through successfully and are living a

normal life.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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because you think of like the Brat Pack or

the Frat Pack and all those guys.

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It's like these white guys, a lot of these

films are buddy -buddy films and the big

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box office smashes, but you don't really

see that much with, it was primarily a

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Black cast.

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Like I didn't really see too many white

folks.

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And that was interesting because it was

unique, especially for that timeframe.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I mean, and I mean, it definitely allude

to the lifestyle.

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You know, the first thing they asked, one

of the first things they asked Mike was he

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Cuzz or Bloods.

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So you know there's Bloods and Crips in

the neighborhood.

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And then we see this, you know, with

Stacey and his crew, you know, we find out

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that they are Bloods.

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So we know that there's the element in the

neighborhood, you know, stores are getting

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stuck up.

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You know, there's still the element of,

you know, police seeing young Black men in

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the car and pulling them over.

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wanting to harass them for whatever

reason.

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I mean, yeah, you say the tail lights out,

but there's no reason for them to be

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pulled out of the car.

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If they're on a search, they're on a

search.

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If they're tail light out, give them a

ticket and send them home.

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You know, stuff like that.

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are there.

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It's not like dominating the story that,

you know, they live in, you know,

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Inglewood and all that entails.

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I guess I'll address, I don't know what to

call it, elephant in the room, but I was

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thinking that would have been like white

cops, it may have a different story

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because of all the history, you know?

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And I'm like, man, you know?

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That was intentional probably, the way

they scripted it and everything, yeah.

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Yeah, definitely intentional.

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Well, I mean, even like, even NWA, but NWA

would even allude to it in some of their

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lyrics.

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They say, yeah, you know, we had white

cops in the neighborhoods, but some of the

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ones that treated us the worst were the

Black ones.

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Yeah.

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So, I mean, it could have gone either way.

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Yeah, for sure.

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Yeah, so chemistry was there.

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We mentioned that.

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And then the takeaway number four was the

flashbacks.

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They really make the movie and the most of

the runtime.

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Like I was shocked at like how much time

was spent back in the day, like the song

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says, but like the kids growing up.

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Yeah.

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So, BooGie, you wanna take us through some

of the happenings as the...

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They were in middle school and high

school.

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high school.

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Yeah, I can take it.

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So we had, you know, Sean Nelson, Trent

Cameron and Duane Finley, as we mentioned,

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playing the younger versions of Mike, Ro,

and Slim, in Inglewood.

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And I mean, it starts off in 1986, when

Mike's, his younger brother and his mother

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moved to Inglewood from North Carolina.

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And upon going to school, Mike encounters

Ro and Slim, and they're like, yo, are

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you...

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Like I mentioned earlier, are you Cuz or

Blood and he's like, what?

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I don't even know what you're talking

about.

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They're like, yo, maybe you need to hang

out with us so we can keep you from

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getting shot.

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They turn around and, you know, get him to

grab Alicia's butt, which prompts Alicia

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to contact her brother, Stacey, who comes

up and we already went through that.

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But again, a few months later, everything

seems to calm down and then, you know,

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they have this school dance.

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Which was kind of funny because throughout

the whole dance you hear nothing but the

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old school classics and it was great to

hear those songs.

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Then, you know, as they're, they, they,

actually before they get to the dance,

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they're like, you know, when they, they

want to go get some mints and then they

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witnessed the, you know, burglary taking

place at the convenience store.

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And then they ended up getting tagged

along into the, into that, because of, you

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know, Stacey and his crew were the

perpetrators and they, they were scared at

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the same time, but you know, they kind of

went along because what were they going to

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do?

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but like I said, you know, Mike, you know,

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you know, gets Stacey's respect and, you

know, Stacey kind of helps him out with,

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you know, trying to talk to his sister.

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You don't get too much into it there.

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But then it goes to talk about high school

and, you know, they're a little older, you

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know, Mike and Alicia no longer together

or whatever.

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So there's the bet on who can lose their

virginity first.

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And it shows like a montage of.

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the guys just trying to convince random

girls or the girlfriends, you know, how

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they move on to the next step.

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And the girls are basically like, no,

they're not buying it.

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They're not buying it.

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Which is kind of funny because they're

trying to have a little bet jar going on

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for every time they get rejected.

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At the end of the week, they have to add

money to it.

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So you just see them keep adding money to

the jar, which is showing up.

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You don't think y 'all macking, but y 'all

not.

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But yeah, it was cool, like I said, you

know, just seeing.

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some of the funny antics that these guys

try to go through, just trying to make it

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in that neighborhood.

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But yeah, it was entertaining, funny.

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And he covered it, a lot of antics and

hijinks, as we said.

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Yeah.

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Dyno Wright you wanted to talk maybe about

some of the fashion from the 90s that was

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on display?

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You

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yes, it was great to see that again.

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Even though you might think it's

questionable now, but some of those lapels

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you could really like land a pontoon boat

on.

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Yeah

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Really wonderful.

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It's great.

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the loud colors they're wearing and which

was it was it Ro's younger version with

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the the jheri curls like like the

ridiculous like jerry jheri curls back

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then yeah reminiscent of Soul Glo so yeah

Soul Glo yeah yeah it didn't

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they rubbed with the grab.

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Like wiping it off on him, man.

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I mean when was the last time you saw a

Guess?

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jacket?

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Yeah, the Guess?

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jacket.

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I remember I wanted that jacket so bad.

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-hmm.

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Yeah.

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the Guess?

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shirt underneath it, you know.

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and the very boxy shoulder pad jazz suit,

New Jack suit.

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Wonderful.

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Mike had a Member's Only jacket on the

first day of school.

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Yeah, he's definitely from a little

country.

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I have a Member's Only a jacket right now

the same color.

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I saw it and said, my God, throwback.

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so fun.

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everything retro comes back at some point

so hold on to that.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it's cool to see those throwback

fashions.

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Yeah, and takeaway five is, as with many

films made before the smartphone era, some

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things will be different about the story

today.

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What do you think would be a bit different

there, Dyno Wright?

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In that regard.

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that the three of them disappear for like

two or three hours on the wedding day.

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And like, that wouldn't happen now.

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There'd be like mad texts flowing and

stuff.

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So, or find my iPhone and they would just

like track them down.

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So, you know, that, that contrivance

doesn't, doesn't happen now.

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So it's like, okay.

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They just allowed to disappear.

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Yeah, even the bridesmaids would probably

be like...

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on a rampage trying to get him to the

wedding.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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They would have got him.

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And the plot is, I'm not even sure what

the point of the movie was.

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I think the point of the movie was the

power of friendship and the power of male

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bonding, but...

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The rest of it was like, why should I be

convinced that Rolando actually likes

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Lisa?

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That was sort of tacked on at the end.

407

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Why are we trying to drag him to the

church or to the wedding?

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No, other than he's got cold feet.

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So why?

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Yeah.

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ex Tanya, you know, for guidance or for

safety, you know, like when he got into a

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jam.

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Yeah.

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he even alluded that you guys need to get

out of here because it's looking kind of

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good.

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I might get a last minute one in.

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you know the point of the the the driving

force of this movie was to get him to the

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wedding but they didn't really talk about

the marriage like Is this is a good idea

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They kind of glossed around it a little

bit.

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yeah, they sort of hint at it.

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So that part didn't really work for me in

this movie.

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And the flashbacks of the other, the young

versions of them were really good.

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But you think of a movie with these

actors, you don't get to see them that

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much.

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Taye Diggs and Omar Epps, and they sort of

get like second billing.

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What more can I say?

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Top billing.

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Yeah.

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sorry.

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So the one, I guess, surprise element or a

subplot was, you know, Mike being able to

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get back together with Alicia, you know,

at the end, because that was the big

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crush.

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And if you think about it or you listen

closely, they had the opportunity to kind

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of stay together because one of them went

to Columbia, one of them got into NYU or

435

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vice versa, but like one of them decided

not to go.

436

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Right.

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So.

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They had an opportunity and they didn't.

439

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And then it turns out that she comes back

for the wedding to see the old friends.

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And Mike's kind of surprised to see her

and they get to talking and it looks like

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they.

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Reconcile or...

443

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Yeah.

444

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actually go to New York this time instead

of not going like last time.

445

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Yeah.

446

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That was one thing about that, like the

movie takes all this time to talk about

447

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their relationship, but that wasn't even

like the point of the plot.

448

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I thought, we're not here about Mike and

Alicia.

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We're here to talk about Rolando and Lisa.

450

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We don't even see Lisa for like an hour

and a half.

451

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We're watching.

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I'm like looking like when they keep

showing the getting ready the bridesmaids

453

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like I don't even where's the bride?

454

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Where's the bride?

455

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I see the parents.

456

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on Frasier.

457

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It's Maris - It's Maris Crane or whatever

they - from Frasier.

458

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Like you never see her.

459

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It's like Snuffleupagus.

460

00:28:07,582 --> 00:28:11,722

I like the neighbor at home improvement,

Wilson over the fence.

461

00:28:11,722 --> 00:28:13,242

You never see the person.

462

00:28:15,482 --> 00:28:16,130

man.

463

00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:18,190

The Wood.

464

00:28:19,243 --> 00:28:19,670

man.

465

00:28:19,670 --> 00:28:21,650

weird elements like that.

466

00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:25,000

I actually struggled to write some of the

notes.

467

00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,090

I mean, yeah, we document what happens.

468

00:28:27,090 --> 00:28:27,890

It was fun.

469

00:28:27,890 --> 00:28:31,730

I was laughing at the camaraderie and the

stuff, but the whole kind of plot thing

470

00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:33,880

was kind of like a little bit odd.

471

00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,290

But the soundtrack was insane.

472

00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:39,590

So I loved it.

473

00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:42,870

Yeah, it's a fun time overall.

474

00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:46,155

Yeah, there's certainly some good like

laugh lines.

475

00:28:46,155 --> 00:28:47,107

Yeah.

476

00:28:48,747 --> 00:28:49,154

So.

477

00:28:49,154 --> 00:28:49,774

felt for him.

478

00:28:49,774 --> 00:28:52,254

I felt for Slim getting his Ferragamo's

puked on.

479

00:28:52,254 --> 00:28:53,614

I mean, those are...

480

00:28:53,614 --> 00:28:55,894

Those are thousand dollar shoes now.

481

00:28:55,894 --> 00:28:58,154

I mean, I felt that.

482

00:28:58,154 --> 00:29:01,934

Someone threw up on my Park Avenue Allen

Edmonds, I'd be upset.

483

00:29:02,571 --> 00:29:03,427

Yeah.

484

00:29:05,138 --> 00:29:05,827

It was fun.

485

00:29:05,827 --> 00:29:12,587

part in the movie that had me cracking up

a little bit.

486

00:29:13,087 --> 00:29:20,547

After they left the convenience store with

Stacey and his guy Boo, and they sit in

487

00:29:20,547 --> 00:29:27,007

the back seat, and there's this dialogue

going on between Stacey and Boo's

488

00:29:27,007 --> 00:29:28,107

character.

489

00:29:28,207 --> 00:29:32,054

Stacey's like, you know, I think I might

want to become a rapper.

490

00:29:32,054 --> 00:29:34,083

Yes, that was funny.

491

00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:37,483

I'm writing an album about smoking weed.

492

00:29:37,483 --> 00:29:41,463

And Boo looks at him and says, ain't

nobody about to buy no album about smoking

493

00:29:41,463 --> 00:29:42,503

weed.

494

00:29:43,303 --> 00:29:51,043

And I look at him like, hmm, we had an

album called The Chronic.

495

00:29:51,122 --> 00:29:52,382

Yeah, yeah.

496

00:29:52,382 --> 00:29:56,552

I mean, that was an intentional joke, like

an inside joke because of the chronic,

497

00:29:56,552 --> 00:29:58,422

because of Cypress Hill.

498

00:29:58,422 --> 00:30:03,522

Like, you know, because I got high, like

seriously, like how many people, how many

499

00:30:03,522 --> 00:30:08,442

rappers, Wiz Khalifa, Snoop Dogg, like

seriously, like how many songs and artists

500

00:30:08,442 --> 00:30:14,642

have made lucrative careers around rapping

about weed?

501

00:30:14,642 --> 00:30:15,742

Seriously.

502

00:30:15,742 --> 00:30:19,474

Like that was kind of a joke, yeah,

because he was ahead of his time.

503

00:30:19,474 --> 00:30:22,204

I mean, that was like it was so close.

504

00:30:22,204 --> 00:30:23,644

It was like 1992.

505

00:30:23,644 --> 00:30:25,483

You're going to hear about it.

506

00:30:25,483 --> 00:30:26,743

Right.

507

00:30:27,363 --> 00:30:32,203

Pick up the mic in about six years, you

might be onto something.

508

00:30:32,306 --> 00:30:33,718

Yeah, exactly.

509

00:30:33,718 --> 00:30:35,908

away, Dre is like about to drop this

album.

510

00:30:35,908 --> 00:30:36,618

It's a change.

511

00:30:36,618 --> 00:30:38,318

Blow your mind.

512

00:30:39,038 --> 00:30:41,883

Yeah.

513

00:30:41,883 --> 00:30:42,937

the lab.

514

00:30:45,266 --> 00:30:49,046

So this movie's from 99, I think, if I

recall, right?

515

00:30:49,146 --> 00:30:55,166

So I think Rick Famuyiwa and I apologize

if I'm mispronouncing his name, it's

516

00:30:55,166 --> 00:30:59,206

tricky, but I think he's evolved as a

director.

517

00:30:59,206 --> 00:31:00,966

I think the writing got better and better.

518

00:31:00,966 --> 00:31:05,566

Dope, the dialogue, I think, was much

better.

519

00:31:06,486 --> 00:31:10,538

That funny line about the weed and rapping

and then like...

520

00:31:10,994 --> 00:31:14,094

Other funny dialogue is like the one guy

was like a savant about breath mints and

521

00:31:14,094 --> 00:31:16,294

that was kind of funny here and there.

522

00:31:16,394 --> 00:31:23,194

Other were just like little jokes inside

jokes, but I he has evolved like, I think

523

00:31:23,694 --> 00:31:26,814

he matured with his directing.

524

00:31:26,814 --> 00:31:30,434

I don't know if he wrote, you know, the

writing in his movies got, I guess, better

525

00:31:30,434 --> 00:31:31,210

too.

526

00:31:32,886 --> 00:31:36,066

I think he did write this one.

527

00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:37,746

He wrote the screenplay.

528

00:31:37,746 --> 00:31:39,166

So I mean, this is his story.

529

00:31:39,166 --> 00:31:46,136

So yeah, yeah, he definitely improved, you

know, The Wood walked so of Dope could

530

00:31:46,136 --> 00:31:46,994

fly, right?

531

00:31:46,994 --> 00:31:48,414

Yeah, exactly.

532

00:31:48,854 --> 00:31:54,654

And remember, he's the guy behind Brown

Sugar also, which is a really good film as

533

00:31:54,654 --> 00:31:54,830

well.

534

00:31:54,830 --> 00:32:00,330

three years, you know, I think some of the

things he learned from Making the Wood,

535

00:32:00,330 --> 00:32:04,878

who made its way into Brown Sugar, you

know, we would re -enjoy that movie too.

536

00:32:05,963 --> 00:32:12,373

I definitely mentioned this with DOPE, the

one thing that I still find humorous.

537

00:32:12,373 --> 00:32:19,263

It's just a small thing, but it's so funny

because we get to see young Stacey in the

538

00:32:19,263 --> 00:32:25,398

woods and we see older mature security

guards, Stacey and DOPE.

539

00:32:25,398 --> 00:32:26,758

Yes.

540

00:32:28,722 --> 00:32:29,610

Yeah.

541

00:32:32,779 --> 00:32:37,139

Well, but he a little soon said, hey, ask

your father about me.

542

00:32:37,142 --> 00:32:40,262

It's like a Famuyiwa cinematic universe.

543

00:32:40,262 --> 00:32:41,562

FCU.

544

00:32:41,910 --> 00:32:44,183

it's kind of cool when people use these

guys.

545

00:32:44,183 --> 00:32:47,903

and see if he's like the, gotta look at

Brown Sugar and see if he's just a

546

00:32:47,903 --> 00:32:49,403

security guard in the background.

547

00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:55,130

He got to New York and Mike didn't.

548

00:32:55,202 --> 00:32:56,162

Yeah.

549

00:32:56,862 --> 00:32:57,932

Thanks.

550

00:33:00,523 --> 00:33:03,986

Speaking of Brown Sugar we got another

Sanaa Lathan sighting

551

00:33:03,986 --> 00:33:05,546

Yes!

552

00:33:06,963 --> 00:33:07,898

You

553

00:33:07,898 --> 00:33:12,078

really is a Sanaa Lathan stan podcast

anymore.

554

00:33:14,098 --> 00:33:15,408

It's fine with me.

555

00:33:15,573 --> 00:33:17,766

How many mentions?

556

00:33:17,766 --> 00:33:20,786

the analysis, her name gets mentioned the

most.

557

00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:21,738

Yeah.

558

00:33:23,083 --> 00:33:28,323

I mean, although, you know, we got Lisa

Ray in here now, so that's a, she got some

559

00:33:28,323 --> 00:33:29,163

comp.

560

00:33:29,718 --> 00:33:31,878

Well...

561

00:33:34,699 --> 00:33:35,634

Yeah.

562

00:33:35,634 --> 00:33:36,126

Sanaa Lathan.

563

00:33:36,126 --> 00:33:38,494

We gotta get her on the podcast.

564

00:33:39,883 --> 00:33:42,578

Somebody knows our get her on the podcast

565

00:33:42,578 --> 00:33:44,938

If anybody knows her, reach out to us.

566

00:33:44,938 --> 00:33:48,074

hiphopmovieclub .gmail .com Hook us up.

567

00:33:48,126 --> 00:33:49,326

right.

568

00:33:49,906 --> 00:33:51,425

We got a lot of love for her.

569

00:33:58,194 --> 00:34:03,146

Alright fellas, let's go around the room

and give our ratings for The Wood.

570

00:34:04,690 --> 00:34:07,150

BooGie, for this movie The Wood.

571

00:34:07,150 --> 00:34:10,246

Bring that funky flick back or leave it in

the vault?

572

00:34:11,787 --> 00:34:15,487

Yeah, I've seen this quite a few times

already, so I'm gonna bring a funky flick

573

00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:16,487

back.

574

00:34:16,767 --> 00:34:18,567

It makes me laugh.

575

00:34:18,738 --> 00:34:20,418

Yeah.

576

00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:21,538

Dyno Wright?

577

00:34:21,538 --> 00:34:22,318

What is your rating?

578

00:34:22,318 --> 00:34:25,150

Bring that funky flick back or leave it in

the vault.

579

00:34:26,070 --> 00:34:29,664

Despite the gripes I have, bring this

funky flick back.

580

00:34:32,146 --> 00:34:34,946

Yes, and that makes three of us.

581

00:34:35,046 --> 00:34:39,886

The soundtrack, the camaraderie, it is a

fun, fun movie.

582

00:34:40,246 --> 00:34:42,878

And so bring that funky flick back for me

as well.

583

00:34:45,334 --> 00:34:46,416

Okay.

584

00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:58,052

Come for the music, stay for the

gratuitous male nudity in the movie.

585

00:34:58,322 --> 00:35:00,842

I forgot about that part.

586

00:35:01,010 --> 00:35:03,270

you know, you don't really see that in

movies these days.

587

00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:04,190

Whoa.

588

00:35:04,190 --> 00:35:05,210

OK.

589

00:35:05,890 --> 00:35:07,570

All right, then.

590

00:35:07,735 --> 00:35:15,294

if any of our listeners are into those

guys, you know, make them a surprise.

591

00:35:17,918 --> 00:35:23,378

The moon is out over Inglewood.

592

00:35:23,378 --> 00:35:24,638

The moons.

593

00:35:24,898 --> 00:35:27,558

You can see the moon during the day.

594

00:35:30,538 --> 00:35:37,498

Hip Hop Movie Club is produced by your

HHMC's JB, BooGie and Dyno Wright.

595

00:35:37,498 --> 00:35:39,318

Theme music by BooGie.

596

00:35:39,318 --> 00:35:43,278

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597

00:35:43,278 --> 00:35:44,238

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598

00:35:44,338 --> 00:35:45,738

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599

00:35:45,738 --> 00:35:47,510

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600

00:35:47,510 --> 00:35:48,910

Thanks for tuning in.

601

00:35:50,450 --> 00:35:53,900

And remember, don't hate, demonstrate.

602

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603

00:36:00,918 --> 00:36:04,385

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