Hey, everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Hi, Tuesday. Tuesday. It is Tuesday. I thought it was Monday for a second. It's not. It's Tuesday. Monday was yesterday. Yeah. Every week happens that way. Monday, Tuesday, fall is Monday. That's right. And then Wednesday comes tomorrow, right? Still. Okay? All right. Yeah, consistency. God made it that way. He did make it that way. Yeah. Hey, it's Tuesday and we are back with another riveting edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. And hopefully you've had a good week so far. Monday is the day that, that we're off. And so we were at home with our families yesterday. We trust that it went well. Trust that your workday got off to a work week, got off to our good start and that today you are already hard at work and you've accomplished a million things. You've accomplished more today already than most people accomplish in a full 24 hours. But maybe not, maybe. Maybe it's just a normal Tuesday, and that's fine too. As long as the Bible's a part of it. If the Bible's not a part of your day, then it's not okay. You need to have the Bible be a part of your day. This isn't the Bible. This is us talking about the Bible. So make sure you don't confuse those two things. Don't think I did the DBR podcast, so therefore I did the DBR. Not the same thing. Not it's not, but it is helpful. It's a good supplement. Yeah, great supplement. Yeah, I was thinking maybe one year. What we do for the Dbr R podcast is we just read the whole Bible. Oh, wow. And then we have a built in audio bible for people. Here's a better idea. Okay. We clone our voices, particularly yours. I don't. And then I copy and paste the text for the day into the podcast and it does it for us. Wow. What a great idea, pastor Rod. I don't want to do that. This is why you're here. Can't wait for us to do that. I, thanks, bro. I don't. I'm looking forward to it. I don't want Good idea. Nope. I don't wanna do that. I'm glad you thought of that idea. Nope. I don't agree with everything that you just said on that one. Not at all. Yeah. Hey, did you guys see our new podcast graphic? We have a new graphic. I like it, man. Yeah, I just, I'm looking at it and I'm just thinking this is attractive. Yeah. I feel like our podcast is better now that we have that. And you guys are gonna be surprised by this. The last graphic we were using was AI generating what? I know. Totally shocked. I know. But we think this one, this was human made. Not by us, but we like it. I think we're gonna stick with this one for a little bit. It matches all the other stuff that we're doing. It does. And they really like that too. Yeah. Which is great. Yeah. We have a consistent, brand is that brand. Yeah, That's about right. Yeah. We're blue and white. A little bit of Navy thrown in. There we're blue David. I remember that. Yeah. Ja. And then Blue Man Group. Did you ever watch those guys? No, I, I know who they are though. Yeah. Sure. Did you go to Vegas to see those guys? Every time I go to Vegas I see those guys, which is all of zero times. Yeah. No, I haven't. When's the last time you've been to Vegas? I've driven through Vegas. I've never actually stopped in, I think I stopped outside of Vegas with our college group for an in and In-N-Out stop on a retreat that we went to up to Utah. Oh yeah. Okay, but that's it. So you've never actually been inside the big city? The ci, the city of sin, just on the highway. Oh, okay. Yeah. I think the last time we went, we didn't go down the strip for obvious reasons, but I was there with my family and we went to the Gold and Silver Pawn Shop, which is Oh yeah, the pawn Shop people. The Pawn Stars guys. Yeah. And they weren't there. I guess they never are there anymore. Or if they are there, they're in their actual stage where they have remade the pawn shop and they. They make it look like it's the front of house, but it's behind in an actual stage where interesting. There's fake walls and things like that, so it's cool, yeah, I did see it. It was fun. We enjoyed that and then we saw that tall, I don't know, is it a hotel? It must be a hotel, and there's people that bungee jump off of the top of it. Oh yeah. Whatever that is. That was cool. There's a lot of things about Las Vegas that are really cool and interesting to me. Like that new sphere venue. Yeah. Where I guess they've set it up so that every seat that you're inside. Every seat that you are inside, that building is dialed in where the sound is immersive and spectacular. I guess that's a mixture of analogies there. 'cause spectacular refers to eyes, but even that, speaking of spectacular, it looks like you're inside a spaceship or whatever else. They can make it feel like you're inside a thing because of the way the screen is designed. So I'd love to see that. But exactly what you're saying. I don't wanna get anywhere near it. Yeah. At the same time, for so many reasons, and I think we all know why, but there are some cool things there. The, I saw an Instagram reel of under I guess there's like a, I don't, it's not even a roller coaster, but it looks like a roller coaster. It's on top of one of those buildings. Yeah. And it just goes down a slant. Yes. And it stops with you hanging off the building. Over the building. Yes. And there's no more track. Who is that? Who would do that? N never. Not? No, not out. I'm out. I'm out on that. So when I was saying staff events, the first event we do improvisational comedy class. Okay. Second thing we do roller coaster over the top of a building. No, you and I ride the front seats. No. Not in it. No. Yeah, granted, I'm sure they have to test every nut and bolt and everything on that. Dude, our church would be set for life. We would die. The church would get all this money from our death, I think. Is that, do we have life insurance? We should make sure we do. I don't know that we would be able to get a facility. Pastor Mark would be a designated survivor. He's got Louis. You've got Allie and Kelly to hold the ship down. I think we might want to roll the dice. I pun intended men. I don't know that I really wanna, yeah. Yeah. Okay. I think I'll pass, but who knows If we get the life insurance policy before we go, that could work out. Man. I just don't have that much thrill seeking in me. I don't, it wouldn't be for you. You could even choose not to be thrilled. Okay. We would let the church benefit if anything went awry, is all I'm saying. I don't even know if I would be willing to do it blindfolded. If somebody who was like, I'm gonna. Put a black bag over your head and take you up there and strap you into this thing and you're gonna ride it and have no idea what it looks like or anything else, or when it's gonna go. Yeah. I still don't think I would wanna do that. Yeah. It's not a, I'm not afraid of heights. I'm afraid of falling. Yeah. Yeah. From a roller coaster, that breaks and plummets and it does happen every now and then. And listen, and if it happened right, amidst the tragedy, everybody else in the world would be thinking to themselves. What did you think was going to happen? Like at what point did you think that this was not going to be the actual outcome of what takes place? It's more of a miracle. That thing that the thing stops every time than it is that it's not plummeting off the tracks. Maybe that's more shocking to me than, but see, that's the exception and not the rule. That's what makes it newsworthy is that it's exceptional. And if it bleeds, it leads as the same goes. Yeah. So it's unusual and that's why it's it's unusual fun to do it. Yeah. Not that I wanna do it either. Yeah. But if it does get the church a building, no. Yeah. Still no. Okay. Yeah. Hey, let's, speaking of something that's fun and more fun, let's jump into Ezekiel talking about buildings 40 through 42, talking about buildings. Well, 40 through 48. So we're rounding the last three days in Ezekiel. Yes. You're making it. Good job. You didn't give up. Hopefully. Hopefully not. Hopefully can give up. Yeah. But these last three days are gonna be somewhat gnarly. Yeah. They can be. They can be. It's gonna feel like you're on a rollercoaster on the top of a building. Let's see. And it stops. Over the building, really specific illustration. Yeah, so chapter 40 opens 5 73 BC 5 73, 5 72, somewhere around there. And the profit is gonna be taken back to Jerusalem. And again, this is most likely in a vision maybe literally, but. I think probably in visions. It says in verse two, in visions of God, he brought me to the land of Israel, set me down on a very high mountain. The question is, could that vision of God have literally transported him to Jerusalem? I think it's just a vision. Pastor, do you wanna weigh in on that at all? That's my answer. Okay, awesome. Anyways there's a man that shows up here. He greets Ezekiel and instructs him to pay attention in order to relay everything to the exiles when he returns. I call him bronzy. Bronzy. Okay. It. Some suggest this might be the angel of the Lord, in which case that would be the pre-incarnate Christ. But we don't know. So broy it is. Okay. Fair. Fair enough. He's given a, or the angel rather, has a reed with him. And this reed is about it's about 10 and a half feet because this is a long cubit as it's defined in the text, which is a qubit plus. A hand breadth. So a normal qubit's about 18 inches, a hand breadth. We're adding roughly three inches to that. And so we're looking at about 21 inches on this, and that's how we get to the number about 10 and a half feet in the length of this reed. And he's going out to measure the walls and he's measuring the walls that are surrounding now a temple. And so we have to ask ourselves which temple because this is clearly first, not the Davidic temple or not the Solomonic temple. Because that's gone, that was destroyed already back in 5 86 BC under Nebuchadnezzar. So then the temples that are left for us to consider might be one of three options here. Could this a be the temple that's gonna be rebuilt under Zabell? And I would say there again, the answer is gonna be no. Because why? Because this temple as we'll find out, not in today's reading, but I think tomorrow's reading is gonna be in dwelt by the glory of God. And the second temple is never in dwelt by the glory of God never. Sends his glory back there the way he did with the first temple and the way he does with this temple. So it's not that one. So it's not the Postex exilic temple, in other words. So then we have to come to option number three, which maybe this is talking about the eternal state. It can't be that either, because Revelation tells us there is no temple during the eternal state because the Lord. God is there. The lamb is there. So there's no temple in the eternal state. So that only leaves the millennial kingdom. And so this seems to be that this is a vision that Ezekiel has of the temple that's going to exist during the millennial kingdom here in Jerusalem. And the, these are the descriptions, the lengths the size and everything else that he's receiving about that temple. So this is one of those sections of scripture where there's a lot of debate and the heat, I think in this time. It corresponds with light. That is some of the things that people say are actually quite helpful and insightful. So maybe let's try to deal with a few of them that you might hear if you were to do a little bit of digging here. And one of the things that you're gonna hear is that this is an idealized. Image. It's a symbol that's meant to convey more than just, Hey, build the temple. So is that what's happening here? Is this just symbolic? Is this something for Israel to be encouraged by God that he hasn't given up on them, that he's got a future for them? No and I think the specificity of this is extreme length. That God would be going to if he was really just trying to convey the moral of, Hey, I've, there's a future for you. I haven't given up on you. The measurements, the lengths, the description, the detail, everything else, even the instructions to Ezekiel to say, Hey, I want you to remember these things and take them back with you to, to record these things because you're gonna need this in the future. There's a purpose beyond that. So for me, I think, I look at the specificity. I look at the fact that there's mentions about offerings and sacrifices that are gonna be taking place here too. We're just dealing with a lot of detail. If this is just simply an encouraging message to Israel, that's a helpful response. Some people say if Ezekiel was intending to have. The people do something about this. A God doesn't say so. He doesn't tell them to build it. And two, to your point, the second temple, people who built the temple didn't do anything with it. They didn't see it as being necessary to say, Hey, we ought to consider Ezekiel's temple. What gives? Yeah. And that's a stronger argument for sure. I think this is. Whether the rest of the context of what Ezekiel has been talking about, he knew that this was gonna be a millennial kingdom situation here rather than this is something for immediate implication in application when it comes back. There seems to be an awareness because even the next temple that's built doesn't look like this. And so the temple under his rub belt, they're not trying to build this temple. So there's something about this temple that. Is set apart to say, Hey, this is gonna be something in the future. It's not for right now. And the fact that God is silent about it, that he doesn't tell Ezekiel to tell them, Hey, by the way, build this temple right at this particular time. I don't think that, that's an argument from silence. It's a good argument. I just wanna say, wouldn't have. God said this, but I think the fact that it's here tells me that there's something beyond just, Hey I'm gonna paint you a picture and I want you just to be encouraged by the picture and to your point, because there's so many, we have eight chapters of this Yes. Of what it means, what it's doing. Now, granted, we do have some interesting symbols that we're gonna get to, and. Tomorrow or the day after is reading where you got water coming out of the temple. It's draining into the dead sea, it's giving it life. And now you have this image that takes on a grander view. So there are people that do believe that this is symbolic. It's not meant to be. Actually literally erected. We would disagree and say it looks based on what we see here, that there's a lot of symbols here that probably have a literal bearing. They're symbolic, yes. But in the same way that you can have a symbolic. Your wedding ring is a symbol of your love for your spouse, but it's also a literal ring. It's a literal ring that you literally put on, but it's also symbolic. You can have something that's literal and symbolic at the same time, and I think this might fit into that category. And one final note, maybe people are asking the question if this is happening during the millennial kingdom. We've talked about this before, but let's talk about it one more time. Why are there sacrifices taking place when Jesus has been sacrificed once and for all? The book of Hebrew says, yeah, this, the millennial kingdom is gonna be such a unique time for Israel. When you think about it, this is them coming to the realization that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. And even when you think about the Book of Zechariah and the ending of the Book of Zechariah, which again I've appealed to multiple times before, but I think it's so clear there. They're gonna look on him whom they have pierced, and they're gonna mourn and they're gonna rep. I think the sacrificial system, it's gonna be their chance to finally realize, oh, this is what this was for the whole time. So I think God is bringing it back in the millennial kingdom to drive home that point to the people of Israel. Hey, now you understand now you can appreciate this with an even greater fullness because now you understand what this was all about. It's pointing to the one who now sits on the throne. Jesus the Messiah, the king. And that's what all this is there for. Thank you. We have answered all the questions. All the questions. Alright. Hey, a couple more things. Chapter 41, we get a lot more measurements here. Verse four, notice the most holy place. So there is gonna be a holy of holies there. That's fascinating to me. And even I think that speaks to, the, our Trinitarian understanding of God, because you're gonna have Jesus the Messiah who's gonna be there literally in bodily form. He's gonna be reigning in Jerusalem, but you're also gonna have the Holy of Holies. And that's where the glory of God, as we're gonna read, is gonna take up residence in the temple. So there you have the glory of God and you have Jesus in the same situation there. And so what do we do with that? We have to point to that and say, okay, this is a Trinitarian depiction of who God is, that you're gonna be able to have God in incarnate. The second member of the Trinity. And you're also gonna have God the Father, who I believe is gonna be the one that is represented by the glory of God that's dwelling there. But this holy of holy is it 35 feet by 35 feet? This is a large space there. The temple itself, verse 13 is gonna be 175 feet long. So that's 30. No that's almost 60 yards long. That's a massive building. It's bigger than any of the temples that were built. Yeah. Even Herod's Temple. I believe that the temple here, that Ezekiel idea. Identifies. Yeah. The Temple Mount could fit into the core of the Gentiles as, as we understand it here, if I remember it. My math is right. But yeah, this is a huge, this is a huge building. Yeah. This is not small. This is meant to be understood as massive. 'cause It is. Yeah, it is. It is for sure. For sure. In chapter 42, we're dealing with the chambers where the offerings, as you were talking about, are gonna be kept and where the priests are gonna eat the food that's gonna be offered on the altar. And so it's not just that the offerings are back, but it seems like some of the Old Testament law is back. We talked about two days ago. The old covenant, right? There's gonna be some regulations and rules for where the priests are allowed to eat the food, where they're not allowed to eat the food, and that is gonna be something that, that they're going to do again, I think in full realization of what it meant and why they were supposed to do that in the first place. But the other thing too to remember is the millennial kingdom is not gonna be all populated by people that are followers of Jesus. They're gonna be those that are there that are not. So this is gonna be a. As well, another opportunity for God's people to be distinct, called out, separate. And they're gonna understand that even through how the priests conduct themselves here in the millennial kingdom or the millennial temple here, the entire complex we see there in, in 42 20 is about 300 by 300 yards. So that's massive. Yeah. As we were just talking, three football fields by three football fields. That's huge. That is an enormous space. Yes. Anyways, anything else on, on 40 through 42 here? Don't lose heart. No I guess I, yes, I do have a question. Yeah. And maybe we can kick this around. Okay. There's a lot of ink spilled on some of these. There's, these are things that I struggle to read because A, we're still talking qubits and you know how I feel about that. Yep. Just give me what it is in feet. That would be really helpful and thank you NLT for doing that. Why would God have us to know and to understand? Some things that really don't seem to be all that significant for us as Gentiles, and I speak for you guys, not myself. Why would this be necessary? What role does this play for our faith and for our day-to-day practice of the Christian faith? I would say it's not just for us as Gentiles, I think it's for Israel too. And so when you think about that, this means, this is hugely significant to them. And the temple was the very center of their relationship with Yahweh in the Old Testament. And so for the Israelites, they're gonna read this and say, man, this is huge. This is, this matters a ton. Because right now in, in Israel, currently they have the utensils and a lot of the interior. Furniture of the temple ready. There's the Temple Institute in Israel and they're ready for this. They're waiting for this. So this is enormous in their understanding of what is coming. They're ready to build the millennial temple as seen here in Ezekiel. And so it's not just for the church, it's also for them. And even it, maybe that's what is for the church, is the reminder that there's something more than that's going on here. And we've talked about it before. It's not that God loves Israel more than he loves us. I, again, I'd rather be. With him as the church, then one of the Jews in the millennial kingdom. I think we have a unique privilege. We have the wedding supper, the lamb. We have all those things that, that God has shown his love for us. But I think this is a good reminder that God cares about his people Israel too. And this is. Really important for them. In the New Testament, scripture calls us as the people of God, the temple of the living God. We are now the temple. This is one of the reasons why today we don't have a temple. We don't go to an edifice to sacrifice a lamb. The lamb of God has been slaying on our behalf. He calls us his temple. Does that change in the millennial kingdom or is there a disruption in that understanding such that a temple, a physical temple, would make a lot more sense? Or is it meant to be? Both. And we are still the temple of God as God's people who are saved. And you also have a physical temple where his manifest glory dwells. Am I making sense? Yes. Yeah. Help me out with that. Yeah I think we are, during this dispensation, we are being built into the holy temple. As Paul says, we are building blocks for that. I think Peter is even gonna pick on up on that as well. That's during this dispensation, during the church age. Once the church has taken off the scene that metaphor that. That understanding of God's 'cause. 'cause this is where the glory of God resides right now. The glory of God resides within the church, through the indwelling of us as believers with the Holy Spirit. In the millennial kingdom, we're entering into a new stage, a new phase. And with that, the idea of the church being the. The place where God's glory dwells is no longer the case we are with Christ. And again, there's so much mystery there about what it's gonna mean for us as the church to be reigning with Christ during that time. But we do know that we're in our glorified bodies. We're not in our fallen state anymore. We have access to the very presence of God because we're no longer sinners. Those that are in the millennial kingdom are still gonna be sinners. So they still need a conduit between them and. The glory of God. They still need a way to, to come before God and worship God and bring their sacrifice and offerings. And during the millennial kingdom dispensation it, it seems that God is reinstituting the temple as the means by which that is gonna take place with Jesus being present as the one that is gonna be so clearly the fulfillment of all the things that they're doing there. This is interesting. Okay. Is there a difference? And you seem to suggest it, so I'm gonna see if I can tease it out a bit. Right now the spirit of God. Yes. Third member of the Trinity dwells in or with us. Yes. He's regenerated us. He's made us brand new. We were born again. Does that relationship with the spirit change? When we're translated into glory with God. So when we're resurrected and we're now taken to rule and reign with Christ, does the Spirit no longer reside in and with us as he does now because we're glorified and no longer, and I'm using air quotes here, need him there or does it? In some way amplify and become bigger and larger. How does that work? Or do you have a thought about that? It's interesting because when Jesus is talking about what the Spirit is there to do in John 14, it seems like a lot of that has to do with our earthly existence, with our existence in un glorified bodies, with our need for his conviction and teaching and leading and recalling the things that Christ has taught us. The ministry of the Spirit in the lives of Christians, even the sealing ministry of the Spirit In Ephesians chapter one, we're sealed. For, until we acquire the inheritance that is ours, that's coming, even as Peter talks about, that, that future inheritance, that's gonna be ours as well. And so once we're there, we don't need to be sealed anymore with the Holy Spirit to be kept in that place. And so I. Can I say the Holy Spirit no longer dwells us in eternity? I don't know that I can go that far, but I think when we look at the ministries of the spirit, primarily speaking, I think they're dealing with us in our un glorified state and not in our glorified state. That's fascinating. So Jesus says, I'll give you another helper. He'll be with you forever. There's, we're not saying that you couldn't have some kind of vital relationship with the Spirit, but maybe. Maybe it changes right in heaven because you're glorified and things are different and different dispensation. Those are interesting questions. Yeah, they're, I'm glad we definitively answered them for everybody. Good job. That's been the theme of these last three episodes. We've given so many definitive answers. Nailed it. Yeah. Let's pray. God we pray that this would come quickly. We are ready to be with you. We're ready to be in your presence. And yet I pray that I know there's a lot of us thinking, and yet we want this person to be saved and this person to be saved and this person to be saved. And we do. And those are not desires that are incompatible with each other, so we pray. God that you would save our lost loved ones and our family members and those that are in our lives that have not bowed the need to Christ yet. And yet at the same time, we also pray and hasten your arrival, Lord. 'cause we want to be with you. We want some of these questions answered. We want to be in your presence. We want to know. What it is to be free, not only from the penalty of sin and the power of sin, but also ultimately from its presence to be with you. And God we pray and ask ha in that day 'cause we can't wait to be with you. We pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Keep you in your Bibles tuning again tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Bye folks. Bye.

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Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said