Nicola:

this is the vibrant music teaching podcast.

Nicola:

I'm Nick . And today we're talking about finding music that you don't normally.

Nicola:

welcome back.

Nicola:

Beautiful teachers.

Nicola:

If it's your first time listening to the show, please ignore me for a second.

Nicola:

But if you've listened to many, many episodes and you have never left us a

Nicola:

review, please go ahead and do that.

Nicola:

Now you can leave a review wherever you're listening to this podcast,

Nicola:

and they truly makes a difference in terms of how many teachers will write.

Nicola:

Today's podcast is inspired by an article which was written by Joanna.

Nicola:

This is called five books to take your piano students around the world.

Nicola:

I'm going to go a little bit broader and talk about seeking out music that you

Nicola:

don't normally hear or don't normally teach, or don't normally play in general.

Nicola:

This is so important for our students, because it helps to make

Nicola:

our studio more representative.

Nicola:

For example, if you have students from different cultures, you want

Nicola:

to represent their music in your studio, to the best of your ability.

Nicola:

Now not everything fits the piano.

Nicola:

So please don't hear that.

Nicola:

I'm saying that all music should be taught equally.

Nicola:

There is more music in the piano cannon from a certain perspective.

Nicola:

That's for sure.

Nicola:

But it doesn't mean we can't explore other music and apply to the piano and learn

Nicola:

about it in a more general music sense.

Nicola:

When we represent our students' culture in our studio, it shows them that we

Nicola:

see them, that we care about where they come from and that what we're teaching

Nicola:

them is relevant to their lives.

Nicola:

It's not just about what we say goes it's, um, a more collaborative process.

Nicola:

It's all of us together, all of music, all of the world.

Nicola:

When we teach more different styles of music.

Nicola:

It also helps our students and us to understand the world

Nicola:

better and take off our blinkers.

Nicola:

We all have them.

Nicola:

Okay.

Nicola:

No matter how diverse you try to be in your musical tastes or how much you

Nicola:

tried to be inclusive of all different musical backgrounds, all that stuff.

Nicola:

I'm trying to do that.

Nicola:

I'm sure you are too, but we all have blind spots.

Nicola:

It's.

Nicola:

The way it is.

Nicola:

We grew up in a certain area.

Nicola:

We listened to certain music.

Nicola:

We took piano lessons or violin lessons growing up.

Nicola:

So we have a different perspective.

Nicola:

And while that's great, we do need to understand the world and understand

Nicola:

all the different perspectives out there to the best of our ability to

Nicola:

see where our students are coming from and to also know where our music comes.

Nicola:

It's all well and good to play some salsa inspired piece by a current

Nicola:

American composer, for example.

Nicola:

But if you don't know the background of salsa, that means less to you.

Nicola:

You don't know anything about the dance, if you've never seen it, if you don't

Nicola:

know anything about the origins of that music, that's a very different thing to.

Nicola:

So I'm not against music that is by composers who are not from the original

Nicola:

tradition, composing it in that style.

Nicola:

I think that's great.

Nicola:

But it's up to us as a performer, as the teacher, as a student, to

Nicola:

look into that and see where did it come from to be curious about it.

Nicola:

And that will broaden our musical knowledge and our musical base so that

Nicola:

we can understand the world better.

Nicola:

Ultimately, I truly believe.

Nicola:

World music or music from ed side of our normal classical European

Nicola:

teaching space can also make the music more irrelevant to our students.

Nicola:

They are not hearing Mozart.

Nicola:

Well, maybe they are hearing a bit of Mozart.

Nicola:

Let me be fair.

Nicola:

They're not hearing Stravinsky Rachmaninoff every day.

Nicola:

So what music are they hearing and where did that come from?

Nicola:

If you're a student listened entirely to video game music?

Nicola:

Well, what's that inspired by if they love music from anime

Nicola:

films, what's that coming from?

Nicola:

What's the tradition behind that?

Nicola:

What inspires that music?

Nicola:

If we start to understand these things and relate them back to our students

Nicola:

so they can understand them too, then music becomes relevant to them.

Nicola:

Part of their lives.

Nicola:

They see themselves as musicians and they see themselves represented in

Nicola:

the music they're learning because if we never see, for example, as a

Nicola:

random example, a female president.

Nicola:

We are less likely to imagine ourselves as women, as a president.

Nicola:

Now, it doesn't mean it's impossible.

Nicola:

It doesn't mean we can't think big and go beyond that, but we're much more likely

Nicola:

to see it as something we could do.

Nicola:

If we see someone else like us, do it.

Nicola:

No matter what category we're talking about, whether we're

Nicola:

talking about gender as I just did, or ethnic background or height.

Nicola:

If we don't see ourselves represented, if we look at basketball and see

Nicola:

all tall people, we don't think that a short person can do that.

Nicola:

And maybe we were right in that case.

Nicola:

But in many areas we could be doing it.

Nicola:

Our students could be doing it, but they still don't see themselves in that role.

Nicola:

So that's a bit.

Nicola:

Why we're doing this now, let's look for the music.

Nicola:

Where do you look for music that you don't normally find?

Nicola:

That's the tricky part, right?

Nicola:

I think you're already on board even before my little introduction.

Nicola:

I think you were probably already on board weren't you,

Nicola:

but you have to find the music.

Nicola:

Not a so hard.

Nicola:

We know where to look for classical pieces collections.

Nicola:

We know where to look even for some pop arrangements and stuff like that.

Nicola:

But if we want to go beyond that, where do we look now in Joanna's

Nicola:

post, she is talking about five books and she goes much beyond that.

Nicola:

I highly recommend you read her full article, but she

Nicola:

does list these five books.

Nicola:

And I'm not going to even list them here because it's the easy answer.

Nicola:

And it's usually the wrong answer.

Nicola:

Those five books would be a great starting point.

Nicola:

Go look up the article, check them out.

Nicola:

But I think we need to break out of that.

Nicola:

I think we need to go beyond looking for books, which is really what

Nicola:

Joanna comes to in the end as well.

Nicola:

If we just rely on looking up the latest publications from our favorite

Nicola:

music publishers and hoping that they come up with more diverse options.

Nicola:

Well, that's one thing and that's great.

Nicola:

And we should support that effort.

Nicola:

And I believe by those books look into.

Nicola:

If they're relevant for our students, don't waste your money.

Nicola:

But if they're relevant for our students, if we think our students might enjoy them,

Nicola:

or we want to play them ourselves for our own development, I think that's wonderful.

Nicola:

And that's a great place to start, but I'm not going to list those five books

Nicola:

here because I think in most cases we need to go outside of publications.

Nicola:

The first step I think you should actually take is to ask your students.

Nicola:

I come back to this again and again, in so many areas, because it's so important.

Nicola:

There's no point you seeking out anime music that I just mentioned.

Nicola:

If you don't have students who watch anime, I do have one right

Nicola:

now who's asked me repeatedly.

Nicola:

And he's being very understanding about the fact that I'm finding it

Nicola:

super hard to find relevant music.

Nicola:

But if you don't have that student.

Nicola:

If none of your students watch those films or some other area, right.

Nicola:

If they don't have that influence in their lives, if it's not relevant to

Nicola:

them, then gay, you could still explore it as a general exploration, but you're

Nicola:

going to do much better with starting with something that is relevant to them.

Nicola:

So.

Nicola:

And then if you get influences back, if you get different things,

Nicola:

like one of them likes anime and the other one loves Cuban music.

Nicola:

Well, great.

Nicola:

Teach that to the student in question and also mix it around your studio because

Nicola:

that immediately becomes more relevant to that student just because they kind of

Nicola:

know someone who likes that music, right.

Nicola:

This was a request of another student.

Nicola:

You met him at a group workshop, or you saw them in this concert, or maybe

Nicola:

they've never met each other, but it still is a direct connection for them.

Nicola:

They can see how someone else around their age, from their

Nicola:

area, from their background likes this and thinks it's relevant.

Nicola:

And that's great.

Nicola:

Now, if you don't have those requests or do you want to go another direction?

Nicola:

Another great way to go is to look at the background of the music.

Nicola:

You do know yourself or that your student is currently learning.

Nicola:

So I mentioned that salsa piece earlier, you could go further than that though.

Nicola:

That's quite direct.

Nicola:

So they're learning yourselves a piece, look up salsa.

Nicola:

I mean, that's a direct connection.

Nicola:

Then you could go back in time and look at where ourselves that

Nicola:

came from, but you can also look at things like, say a jazzy piece.

Nicola:

Let's say it's the blues just for argument's sake.

Nicola:

So it's a blues piece.

Nicola:

Well, where did the blues come?

Nicola:

It came from the most wonderful melting pot.

Nicola:

So unpack that, take some different elements out of it and learn different

Nicola:

things about those components to that background, learn about the

Nicola:

pace and the time where that music originated, where the style originated.

Nicola:

Take one piece and just go deep into it.

Nicola:

Figure out where it came.

Nicola:

You could also just pick a random country and go super deep on that.

Nicola:

I mean, really just like have a globe in your studio and spin it and

Nicola:

wherever your students finger lunch.

Nicola:

That's where you're going, unless it's in an ocean, that's what

Nicola:

always happens in that game.

Nicola:

Right.

Nicola:

But until they lie down to country, they can keep going.

Nicola:

And, this idea just occurred to me on the spot.

Nicola:

Right?

Nicola:

Well, I'm recording this podcast, but I want to globe out.

Nicola:

I think I'm going to go buy one after this episode.

Nicola:

I think that could be super.

Nicola:

And then you explore what the music from that country is like the current

Nicola:

music, the folk music, any different traditions that came from there or

Nicola:

were inspired by music from there.

Nicola:

There's so many directions you could go with that.

Nicola:

So speaking of directions, you could go, what do you do with it?

Nicola:

Once you find this music to listen to at least what do you do?

Nicola:

I think we start by trying to decipher what makes this music, this music.

Nicola:

Now there's going to be some intangible qualities.

Nicola:

Yes.

Nicola:

But really, if you unpack these things, there's some defining characteristics

Nicola:

about that music that makes it sound like it's from there or in that.

Nicola:

So explore the rhythms that are used on pack.

Nicola:

Those, dissect them with your student, do all of this in the

Nicola:

lesson with your student, explore the instruments that are used.

Nicola:

This is huge.

Nicola:

And even explore the incident.

Nicola:

That aren't used.

Nicola:

I think that can be fascinating.

Nicola:

For instance, in Chinese music, I've noticed if you're not familiar, my

Nicola:

husband is Chinese, so I've listened to a bit of Chinese music, including

Nicola:

a lot of pop music from the eighties.

Nicola:

He's an eighties kid.

Nicola:

So a lot of Chinese pop from the.

Nicola:

Or like pop rock kind of stuff.

Nicola:

And I, for ages, I was listening to it when we first started going

Nicola:

out and listen to it in his car and going, why do I not like this?

Nicola:

And it wasn't because it was in Chinese and it wasn't because of

Nicola:

anything else I kept trying to decide.

Nicola:

It just feels empty to me.

Nicola:

Why does this feel so empty?

Nicola:

And then I realized there was no base.

Nicola:

It was lacking in base.

Nicola:

Now more recent Chinese music does include base.

Nicola:

It's much more Western and stuff, but this stuff we were listening

Nicola:

to, there was no pace there.

Nicola:

Just left it out.

Nicola:

Like, what were they doing?

Nicola:

And then you look into folk music, and there's not a lot of bass

Nicola:

instruments in Chinese folk either.

Nicola:

So that's where it comes from.

Nicola:

But to me it felt like, well, this isn't connecting with me.

Nicola:

What is it?

Nicola:

Now?

Nicola:

It could be a little.

Nicola:

In that sense, or it could be something that's missing that actually

Nicola:

makes everything more interesting.

Nicola:

You can also look at the scales, use the harmonies used and those kinds

Nicola:

of things to really try and decide what makes this music, this music.

Nicola:

And then the next steps you can take depend on what defining characteristics

Nicola:

you found and what was most interesting to you and your student

Nicola:

when you were exploring that music.

Nicola:

So figure out the melody by ear.

Nicola:

That might be your go-to as a piano teacher.

Nicola:

But it's often not the best solution for a lot of folk music, a lot

Nicola:

of different backgrounds, because the melody is not the main focus.

Nicola:

So it depends on the music, but maybe you figure out the melody by ear.

Nicola:

Maybe you make a lead sheet out of it.

Nicola:

Maybe they figure out the melody or just the chords and make a chord chart.

Nicola:

Um, if there are words and make that together, construct it together, it

Nicola:

doesn't have to be super precise or.

Nicola:

You know, win any awards or be able to be published.

Nicola:

It's just for you and your student to do together.

Nicola:

Maybe you compose a piece using a similar arrhythmic structure.

Nicola:

If it's this rhythm against that rhythm twos against threes or something much

Nicola:

more complex, you compose something together using that structure.

Nicola:

And yes, it won't sound like it's from that place, but it will be inspired by it.

Nicola:

And it can be a fascinating process to go through and maybe.

Nicola:

Just maybe you can borrow an instrument that's from that culture.

Nicola:

If you do explore, say Chinese music, if you can find someone who

Nicola:

has an actual Chinese instrument, um, a native Chinese instrument,

Nicola:

they're fascinating to explore.

Nicola:

I messed around with some of them, myself.

Nicola:

Or whatever culture you're talking about, whatever instruments you're talking about.

Nicola:

If you can't borrow an instrument, maybe you look up examples of it online,

Nicola:

or you borrow something similar that maybe was derived from that instrument.

Nicola:

Um, like if you teach piano usually, and you're talking about string instruments,

Nicola:

bring in a guitar at least and have them feel what that feels like and talk

Nicola:

about the difference in the instrument that you're actually listening to.

Nicola:

Let's say it's the mandolin.

Nicola:

Well, what's different about that.

Nicola:

How does it work different?

Nicola:

When it comes to exploring music that we don't normally find seeking out music from

Nicola:

different cultures, from different styles.

Nicola:

It is not easy work.

Nicola:

It does matter though, because it's going to make your lessons that much

Nicola:

more relevant to your student's going to make them understand where their

Nicola:

music comes from and why it matters to them in their culture in their time.

Nicola:

So, You can start with books, but I suggest you take the less trodden,

Nicola:

more difficult route whenever you can, and really seek out the

Nicola:

music, listen to it, dissect it, understand what makes it different.

Nicola:

What makes it sound like it is that type of music and then do something with it.

Nicola:

You're one thing this week is to pick a place or a musical.

Nicola:

This could be something based on a student request, but it doesn't

Nicola:

have to be, you can pick at random.

Nicola:

If you like, then what you must do is to do something with it in your

Nicola:

studio, do something, pick out the rhythm, make a lead sheet, compose, do

Nicola:

something with that music, explore it with your students in an active way.

Nicola:

And let me know how you.

Nicola:

I would love to hear from you in the vibrant music studio teachers' group

Nicola:

on Facebook or on Instagram, where at colorful keys, see you next week.

Nicola:

If you ever get overwhelmed by all the different teacher training options.

Nicola:

They're vibrant music teaching is the place for you.

Nicola:

We nicknamed flamingos because they're masters of balancing all of

Nicola:

the things and making it all work in a way that isn't overwhelming.

Nicola:

We have tools to help you do that inside vibrant music teaching.