1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,340 when you make the switch from a constant launch mode cycle to an evergreen 2 00:00:05,340 --> 00:00:07,649 cycle, that does have its challenges. 3 00:00:07,910 --> 00:00:12,350 Find the time to pull out of your business, and actually foc focus on your 4 00:00:12,350 --> 00:00:14,209 business and on your quality of life. 5 00:00:14,316 --> 00:00:17,766 when humans have a constrained window in which they need to 6 00:00:17,946 --> 00:00:19,746 get shit done, they get it done. 7 00:00:19,893 --> 00:00:25,773 All of us have so much fire inside of us, so much fire, light, brilliance 8 00:00:25,773 --> 00:00:30,213 inside of us that we all have to be realistic, um, with ourselves 9 00:00:30,453 --> 00:00:34,353 because fire, energy, anything like that, like, it's like nuclear energy, 10 00:00:34,353 --> 00:00:35,313 fire energy, 11 00:00:35,343 --> 00:00:36,513 any kind of energy 12 00:00:36,873 --> 00:00:39,903 is powerful if it's harnessed in the right way. 13 00:00:40,353 --> 00:00:43,803 And it's deadly if it's not harnessed in the right way. 14 00:00:46,947 --> 00:00:51,327 Joy Houston, we are back for numeral dose with you. 15 00:00:51,447 --> 00:00:52,137 How you doing this? 16 00:00:52,137 --> 00:00:53,697 Fine morning here. 17 00:00:53,907 --> 00:00:54,687 I'm doing good. 18 00:00:54,687 --> 00:00:56,967 I'm, I'm happy to be back with you. 19 00:00:56,967 --> 00:01:00,117 I hope you got your, uh, peptide stack in order last time we chatted. 20 00:01:00,462 --> 00:01:00,912 Right. 21 00:01:00,912 --> 00:01:01,992 Yeah, I know I do. 22 00:01:02,052 --> 00:01:03,102 How about you listening? 23 00:01:03,102 --> 00:01:06,762 Watching, um, my hand's always feeling slightly better. 24 00:01:06,762 --> 00:01:07,872 You know, bait in this. 25 00:01:07,872 --> 00:01:11,442 And again, if you haven't listened to the episode that we dropped with Joy 26 00:01:11,472 --> 00:01:14,412 about peptides and, or if you don't even know what we're talking about 27 00:01:14,412 --> 00:01:18,792 right now and you're like, what the hell are peptides after this episode, 28 00:01:19,122 --> 00:01:20,232 since you're already moving on this one? 29 00:01:20,232 --> 00:01:21,312 Go bookmark that one. 30 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:24,762 It probably came out right before this or whenever, but just look for Joy's name and 31 00:01:24,762 --> 00:01:27,072 peptides and you'll see why we love those. 32 00:01:27,612 --> 00:01:29,322 But we're not talking about peptides this time. 33 00:01:29,382 --> 00:01:30,822 We're talking about, uh. 34 00:01:30,867 --> 00:01:31,107 today. 35 00:01:31,107 --> 00:01:32,697 We're gonna talk quality of life today. 36 00:01:32,932 --> 00:01:33,567 Damn right. 37 00:01:33,897 --> 00:01:37,257 So that's, I mean, I love that this is, I mean, you live it. 38 00:01:37,257 --> 00:01:40,767 I know it, you and Travis, your husband, and you know, I mean, you 39 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:42,477 guys are always doing really fun stuff. 40 00:01:42,477 --> 00:01:44,427 You're just fun people in general, but you're also doing 41 00:01:44,427 --> 00:01:49,017 really big shit with business and exponential growth all around. 42 00:01:49,017 --> 00:01:50,487 But you have a great quality of life. 43 00:01:51,057 --> 00:01:53,967 Um, that's like the essence of why I even have this show. 44 00:01:53,967 --> 00:01:55,107 It's evolved over the years. 45 00:01:55,107 --> 00:01:59,307 But the big thing is like, how do we, how, how can we be great entrepreneurs, 46 00:01:59,307 --> 00:02:03,867 leaders in life, and do really cool stuff in business, if that's what 47 00:02:03,867 --> 00:02:06,837 you wanna do, but also have a great life and not burn out in the process. 48 00:02:06,927 --> 00:02:08,667 'cause that sucks been there. 49 00:02:08,878 --> 00:02:11,668 I'm gonna give you my favorite secret on how we do that today. 50 00:02:11,668 --> 00:02:14,608 I am totally gonna open it up and like, I'll tell you what I did. 51 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:18,718 Um, I think if there's anything that you need to know is a little bit fair warning, 52 00:02:18,718 --> 00:02:20,098 you're gonna think I'm fucking crazy. 53 00:02:20,098 --> 00:02:23,878 Like you'll be literally like, there's no way that I can do that. 54 00:02:24,148 --> 00:02:27,778 Um, and I know that from experience because when I first heard it, I 55 00:02:27,778 --> 00:02:29,098 was like, you're fucking crazy. 56 00:02:29,098 --> 00:02:30,118 All your clients will quit. 57 00:02:30,118 --> 00:02:30,508 You. 58 00:02:30,688 --> 00:02:31,858 Everybody will hate you. 59 00:02:32,008 --> 00:02:32,908 It's not gonna work. 60 00:02:32,908 --> 00:02:34,258 Your business will fall apart. 61 00:02:34,258 --> 00:02:35,938 I had so much resistance. 62 00:02:35,938 --> 00:02:36,208 So 63 00:02:36,823 --> 00:02:37,063 I am 64 00:02:37,378 --> 00:02:38,728 I'll start by admitting that. 65 00:02:38,878 --> 00:02:39,208 Yeah. 66 00:02:39,358 --> 00:02:40,768 I'll start by admitting that. 67 00:02:40,878 --> 00:02:41,593 Y yeah. 68 00:02:41,593 --> 00:02:42,163 I love it. 69 00:02:42,163 --> 00:02:44,563 Y you probably, you probably got some of the attention of a few 70 00:02:44,563 --> 00:02:48,373 people here just now, so I mean, like, I don't know where we start 71 00:02:48,373 --> 00:02:52,513 here because I don't know anything about this concept of Thrive Week. 72 00:02:52,543 --> 00:02:55,843 You've kind of told me a little bit about it, but I, we purposely 73 00:02:55,843 --> 00:02:57,943 kept it a mystery until we chatted. 74 00:02:57,943 --> 00:02:58,258 So 75 00:02:58,558 --> 00:02:59,068 All right, 76 00:02:59,233 --> 00:03:02,443 I guess gimme the, yeah, like what's the, what's the big idea 77 00:03:02,443 --> 00:03:04,753 here first and like what was the big problem you were trying to solve? 78 00:03:04,753 --> 00:03:05,083 Yeah, 79 00:03:05,578 --> 00:03:05,908 Okay. 80 00:03:05,908 --> 00:03:10,528 So the big problem that I was trying to solve is we have an ongoing mastermind 81 00:03:10,528 --> 00:03:12,598 and we have rolling Evergreen. 82 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:14,413 Programs. 83 00:03:14,593 --> 00:03:17,983 Okay, so you know how it is when you're like, you either pick, you 84 00:03:17,983 --> 00:03:19,573 have a diff a difficult decision. 85 00:03:19,573 --> 00:03:23,773 If you're making scalable online offers, you're either stuck in launch mode, right? 86 00:03:23,773 --> 00:03:25,153 Where you're like, John Walker style. 87 00:03:25,153 --> 00:03:27,313 I'm gonna like love you John Walker, by the way. 88 00:03:27,343 --> 00:03:27,613 Okay. 89 00:03:27,733 --> 00:03:27,913 What? 90 00:03:27,913 --> 00:03:30,673 Where you're like, I'm gonna launch and then I'm gonna rinse and repeat 91 00:03:30,673 --> 00:03:31,663 and I'm gonna rinse and repeat. 92 00:03:31,663 --> 00:03:32,593 I'm gonna rinse and repeat. 93 00:03:32,593 --> 00:03:32,833 Right? 94 00:03:33,043 --> 00:03:36,103 And it kind of puts you on this cycle of like, okay, I'm gonna fill. 95 00:03:36,358 --> 00:03:39,238 All my offers and then I'm gonna fulfill on all my offers. 96 00:03:39,238 --> 00:03:42,328 I'm gonna fill 'em up again, and then I'm gonna fill, it's a very like wave. 97 00:03:42,358 --> 00:03:46,558 Okay, so my first sort of, let's level out the quality of life was 98 00:03:46,888 --> 00:03:48,628 let's go for rolling Evergreen. 99 00:03:48,718 --> 00:03:52,048 And, and then we just get our, yeah. 100 00:03:52,048 --> 00:03:55,768 Then we get our conversion mechanisms firing on all cylinders and 101 00:03:55,768 --> 00:03:57,358 everybody starts when they start. 102 00:03:57,388 --> 00:03:59,638 And at first that was intimidating. 103 00:03:59,638 --> 00:04:01,738 If you've never made that jump before, that's intimidating 104 00:04:01,738 --> 00:04:03,058 when you first make that jump. 105 00:04:03,328 --> 00:04:07,438 Because it feels like if everybody's gonna start together and in together, 106 00:04:07,438 --> 00:04:11,188 that they're a community's not gonna build, there's not gonna be camaraderie. 107 00:04:11,638 --> 00:04:15,268 Um, and that would be saying like, oh, only kindergarten should hang 108 00:04:15,268 --> 00:04:17,578 out together, and then only middle schoolers should hang out together. 109 00:04:17,578 --> 00:04:20,038 And then only college people, and then only elderly people. 110 00:04:20,218 --> 00:04:22,288 That's not really the way that society works. 111 00:04:22,288 --> 00:04:22,588 Right. 112 00:04:22,638 --> 00:04:24,888 Like we have our elders to look up to. 113 00:04:24,888 --> 00:04:28,548 We have our newbies to bring in new ideas and question our 114 00:04:28,548 --> 00:04:30,258 thinking and our paradigms, right? 115 00:04:30,258 --> 00:04:36,078 So when you make the switch from a constant launch mode cycle to an evergreen 116 00:04:36,078 --> 00:04:38,388 cycle, that does have its challenges. 117 00:04:38,598 --> 00:04:41,898 But I found that, wow, when newbies ask a question. 118 00:04:42,143 --> 00:04:45,173 It reminds the elders of the basics that they've probably 119 00:04:45,173 --> 00:04:46,973 forgotten or taken advantage of. 120 00:04:47,243 --> 00:04:52,193 And then when elders ask questions that stump the newbies and make them feel like, 121 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:56,123 oh shit, I don't even know what they're talking about, um, it actually has the 122 00:04:56,123 --> 00:05:01,103 newbies get excited about the levels that they're about to achieve in the community. 123 00:05:01,163 --> 00:05:02,123 So I'll say that first. 124 00:05:02,153 --> 00:05:02,363 Okay? 125 00:05:02,363 --> 00:05:02,453 Mm-hmm. 126 00:05:02,663 --> 00:05:06,203 So the first wave of Let's calm the stress down, let's make life a little 127 00:05:06,203 --> 00:05:09,953 more, bit more manageable, is um, you know, this was back when we were 128 00:05:09,953 --> 00:05:11,453 following the rule of five ones, right? 129 00:05:11,453 --> 00:05:15,113 Like one audience, one offer, one conversion mechanism on one platform, 130 00:05:15,113 --> 00:05:17,213 Intel, 1 million or one year. 131 00:05:17,393 --> 00:05:20,273 So if you haven't read Red Ready, fire, aim, I'm talking about when 132 00:05:20,273 --> 00:05:22,163 you're first trying to get your business to that 1 million mark. 133 00:05:22,403 --> 00:05:25,583 So when we were trying to do that, we made the switch from constant 134 00:05:25,583 --> 00:05:29,243 live launching to rolling evergreen cycles, and then just focused on the 135 00:05:29,243 --> 00:05:30,743 conversion mechanisms that worked best. 136 00:05:31,192 --> 00:05:33,082 And then you hit another problem, right? 137 00:05:33,082 --> 00:05:34,942 So new level, new devil, right? 138 00:05:34,942 --> 00:05:37,852 Like then now you've got rolling evergreen. 139 00:05:37,852 --> 00:05:39,172 So then the question becomes. 140 00:05:39,817 --> 00:05:41,917 When, when am I off, right? 141 00:05:41,917 --> 00:05:45,997 I have to be on all the time, like week, over week, over week, over week. 142 00:05:45,997 --> 00:05:48,967 And if you don't plan it carefully before you know it, your 143 00:05:48,967 --> 00:05:50,287 husband's forgotten your name. 144 00:05:50,287 --> 00:05:51,787 Your kids don't remember you. 145 00:05:51,787 --> 00:05:53,617 They think you don't love them 'cause you're not at their 146 00:05:53,617 --> 00:05:57,067 baseball game or ballet virtual or whatever they need to do, right? 147 00:05:57,577 --> 00:06:02,227 And so that right about the time we are at a peak level of like, oh my God, 148 00:06:02,227 --> 00:06:07,147 like we love delivering, but we also need a little bit of time to breathe. 149 00:06:07,177 --> 00:06:10,867 We all, we can only inhale so much before we have to exhale. 150 00:06:10,987 --> 00:06:11,437 Okay? 151 00:06:11,797 --> 00:06:16,657 And so I was listening to Laurel Portier because I love her information 152 00:06:16,657 --> 00:06:20,377 and we're in her group to just stay on the forefront of Facebook 153 00:06:20,377 --> 00:06:21,577 ads and meta and what's changing. 154 00:06:21,577 --> 00:06:23,707 And I think she's amazingly got her pulse on that. 155 00:06:23,707 --> 00:06:24,787 I absolutely love it. 156 00:06:25,207 --> 00:06:28,537 Um, I would say between her and Kurt Molly, like they keep me, you know, 157 00:06:28,537 --> 00:06:30,277 rollerskating on the front line of meta. 158 00:06:30,277 --> 00:06:32,797 I just follow both of them and listen really well. 159 00:06:32,797 --> 00:06:34,387 I love, absolutely love both of them. 160 00:06:35,062 --> 00:06:38,482 But Laura was actually having one of her brilliant little side conversations 161 00:06:38,752 --> 00:06:41,542 and she was talking about Nick Peterson. 162 00:06:42,112 --> 00:06:44,422 I know you've had him as a guest here on the show. 163 00:06:44,422 --> 00:06:49,672 So if you guys haven't listened to Nick, like go back, rewind the, the, um, 164 00:06:50,002 --> 00:06:50,992 he is in the archives. 165 00:06:50,992 --> 00:06:51,232 He is. 166 00:06:51,232 --> 00:06:52,162 He is like a few 167 00:06:52,282 --> 00:06:53,242 he's old school. 168 00:06:53,392 --> 00:06:53,752 Yeah. 169 00:06:53,752 --> 00:06:54,082 Yeah. 170 00:06:54,510 --> 00:06:58,620 honestly, you guys, he is like such a brilliant dude that sometimes 171 00:06:58,620 --> 00:07:03,540 I get a piece from him and I can feel the brilliance in the Nugget. 172 00:07:03,840 --> 00:07:06,780 Um, but it's definitely still like a raw gem. 173 00:07:06,780 --> 00:07:11,070 It's not like shiny and polished and carved because what he can give you 174 00:07:11,070 --> 00:07:15,810 can be so almost like esoteric, like big thinking that sometimes it takes 175 00:07:15,810 --> 00:07:19,470 me a little bit of time to like land the plane and see like, how am I gonna 176 00:07:19,470 --> 00:07:20,970 actually implement that in my life? 177 00:07:21,030 --> 00:07:22,530 And this was one of those things. 178 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:22,920 Okay. 179 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:28,380 So she told me that, Laurel mentioned that her and her wife were using, um, 180 00:07:28,470 --> 00:07:31,920 they, they were, they didn't call it what we call it, we call it a Thrive Week. 181 00:07:31,950 --> 00:07:32,370 Okay. 182 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:34,680 So I can't remember what she was calling it. 183 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:34,980 I'm sorry. 184 00:07:34,980 --> 00:07:35,850 I should remember, but I don't. 185 00:07:35,850 --> 00:07:37,650 And I was like, wait, that's really interesting. 186 00:07:37,650 --> 00:07:38,790 Say that again. 187 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:41,490 And she's like, yeah, I deliver. 188 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,570 So she looks at the monthly calendar and she was delivering week one, week 189 00:07:45,570 --> 00:07:49,290 two, week three, and then in week four, and of course sometimes there's 190 00:07:49,290 --> 00:07:53,190 those rando months where there's five weeks in a month, first three weeks 191 00:07:53,190 --> 00:07:57,990 of the month delivering hardcore for her people, private clients groups, 192 00:07:57,990 --> 00:07:59,910 rolling mastermind, just delivering. 193 00:07:59,970 --> 00:08:00,390 Okay. 194 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,790 And then the last week, that was both her time to exhale and focus 195 00:08:05,790 --> 00:08:07,020 on what the business needed. 196 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:10,200 So sort of like work on the business instead of in the business. 197 00:08:10,470 --> 00:08:13,080 It was also the time that then she would schedule. 198 00:08:13,725 --> 00:08:15,345 Like they're longer vacations. 199 00:08:15,345 --> 00:08:17,355 Like, oh, we wanna get away to Rome for a while or whatever. 200 00:08:17,355 --> 00:08:18,045 Like that kind of thing. 201 00:08:18,467 --> 00:08:23,297 And immediately I had this tightness in my chest when I heard her say 202 00:08:23,297 --> 00:08:27,587 that at the thought of it, because I'm thinking, I think I call all of 203 00:08:27,587 --> 00:08:31,127 the practitioners that we serve in, in our world of Little Birds, right? 204 00:08:31,127 --> 00:08:33,767 So we talk about that they're a little birds and they're all in the nest. 205 00:08:34,097 --> 00:08:37,217 And I'm thinking, oh my God, how the little birds would chirp or 206 00:08:37,217 --> 00:08:38,747 fall out of the nest or something. 207 00:08:38,747 --> 00:08:39,557 Yeah, exactly. 208 00:08:39,557 --> 00:08:43,037 Like if we just didn't show up for them like the last week, 209 00:08:43,037 --> 00:08:44,507 are you fucking kidding me? 210 00:08:44,507 --> 00:08:45,137 You know what I mean? 211 00:08:45,617 --> 00:08:49,277 And um, and it was a real, like, it was one of those things I really 212 00:08:49,277 --> 00:08:51,227 had to think on it, you know? 213 00:08:51,617 --> 00:08:53,057 Um, and so she said, yeah, yeah. 214 00:08:53,057 --> 00:08:55,937 Joy, if you're curious, if you're curious, go read bumpers. 215 00:08:55,967 --> 00:08:56,507 Okay. 216 00:08:56,627 --> 00:09:00,227 So I don't wanna get the title of this book wrong because it, like 217 00:09:00,227 --> 00:09:02,196 the name of the book says it all. 218 00:09:02,477 --> 00:09:05,447 And if you could put this in the chat for your people, or in the link 219 00:09:05,447 --> 00:09:06,707 description below, that'd be great. 220 00:09:07,007 --> 00:09:07,367 Okay. 221 00:09:07,367 --> 00:09:08,867 Check out the title of this book. 222 00:09:08,897 --> 00:09:09,467 Okay. 223 00:09:09,827 --> 00:09:11,297 It's called Bumpers. 224 00:09:13,322 --> 00:09:14,822 It came out in two versions. 225 00:09:14,822 --> 00:09:17,852 The first version, the subtitle, as a copywriter, I'm fascinated 226 00:09:17,852 --> 00:09:19,623 by V one and V two titles, right? 227 00:09:20,042 --> 00:09:23,822 The first one was the Framework for Finding Your Personal Abundance, 228 00:09:24,092 --> 00:09:28,592 maximum Productivity, um, greatest Profits and Highest Quality of Life. 229 00:09:29,282 --> 00:09:29,642 Okay. 230 00:09:30,152 --> 00:09:32,882 Now obviously someone told him that subtitle was too long. 231 00:09:33,092 --> 00:09:36,992 Um, and then the new subtitle is Bumpers Maximum Productivity, profit 232 00:09:36,992 --> 00:09:39,512 and Quality of Life, the Framework for Finding Your Personal Abundance. 233 00:09:39,632 --> 00:09:41,252 So he slimmed it down a little bit. 234 00:09:41,342 --> 00:09:41,822 Okay. 235 00:09:41,987 --> 00:09:45,227 I remember this book because he, yeah, I, I read the very 236 00:09:45,227 --> 00:09:47,327 first unpublished version of it 237 00:09:47,522 --> 00:09:50,042 Yeah, the unpublished one, it's just black and white, like it 238 00:09:50,042 --> 00:09:51,302 has just a black and white cover. 239 00:09:51,542 --> 00:09:53,912 And then later they did the one with the fancy cover. 240 00:09:54,152 --> 00:09:56,582 If you get the first one or second one, honestly, you 241 00:09:56,582 --> 00:09:57,752 guys, it really doesn't matter. 242 00:09:57,902 --> 00:10:00,752 The first one was like a, almost like a gun. 243 00:10:00,812 --> 00:10:02,942 The way I heard the story, it was almost like a gun to his 244 00:10:02,942 --> 00:10:04,382 head, like publish it because. 245 00:10:04,778 --> 00:10:07,448 He shared the concept with his mastermind. 246 00:10:07,448 --> 00:10:09,428 This is the story that I got from just like listening to 247 00:10:09,428 --> 00:10:10,418 him talk about on YouTube. 248 00:10:10,628 --> 00:10:14,978 The story that I got was, um, it was so powerful for the people 249 00:10:14,978 --> 00:10:18,158 in his mastermind that they were like, you gotta publish this dude. 250 00:10:18,158 --> 00:10:21,608 And it just sort of went out the door as a book with typos. 251 00:10:21,608 --> 00:10:22,328 Like, yeah, shit. 252 00:10:22,328 --> 00:10:24,968 Tons of typos and problems, you know what I mean? 253 00:10:25,268 --> 00:10:25,868 Totally the best. 254 00:10:26,348 --> 00:10:30,218 But in a way, I kind of loved reading that grungy version before I reread 255 00:10:30,218 --> 00:10:34,058 the second one, because it was like, wow, he was just showing up to serve 256 00:10:34,058 --> 00:10:38,408 and he didn't give a flying fuck how it looked to put a book out with errors. 257 00:10:38,408 --> 00:10:42,248 He was like, Hey, if this served my people and my people are saying everybody 258 00:10:42,248 --> 00:10:44,048 needs this, let's get access to this. 259 00:10:44,108 --> 00:10:45,668 And how genuine is that? 260 00:10:45,668 --> 00:10:48,218 And ego free just to be like, Hey, they said it. 261 00:10:48,218 --> 00:10:48,938 I'm gonna do it. 262 00:10:48,938 --> 00:10:49,898 I'm gonna pull the trigger. 263 00:10:50,198 --> 00:10:51,728 I don't care how unpolished it is. 264 00:10:51,728 --> 00:10:52,388 Here you go. 265 00:10:52,418 --> 00:10:52,988 You know what I mean? 266 00:10:53,018 --> 00:10:53,708 I love that. 267 00:10:53,708 --> 00:10:54,233 I love that. 268 00:10:54,283 --> 00:10:55,273 super fast read. 269 00:10:55,273 --> 00:10:57,883 It's like a hundred pages, like literally one 270 00:10:58,108 --> 00:10:58,768 fast read. 271 00:10:59,308 --> 00:11:00,388 Super fast read. 272 00:11:00,418 --> 00:11:00,868 Okay. 273 00:11:01,138 --> 00:11:04,438 And on, and like a few spoiler alerts here, but just to 274 00:11:04,438 --> 00:11:05,608 motivate you to read the book. 275 00:11:05,788 --> 00:11:10,258 The concept of bumpers is like if you take your kids bowling, that's just not 276 00:11:10,258 --> 00:11:12,838 gonna be very fun because they're just gonna hit gutter balls all the time. 277 00:11:12,838 --> 00:11:13,108 Right? 278 00:11:13,318 --> 00:11:17,398 But if you put the bumpers up right, then all of a sudden they're having 279 00:11:17,398 --> 00:11:21,298 a good time because at least they're knocking down a pin or two because 280 00:11:21,298 --> 00:11:24,868 the chances of this completely going out of the rails has been eliminated. 281 00:11:24,868 --> 00:11:26,278 They're just kind of like protecting 282 00:11:26,623 --> 00:11:27,463 You're having more fun. 283 00:11:27,463 --> 00:11:28,723 There's more joy, no 284 00:11:28,828 --> 00:11:30,148 Yeah, exactly. 285 00:11:30,148 --> 00:11:30,688 Exactly. 286 00:11:30,688 --> 00:11:34,258 So you're, you're putting guard rails for like, the things that matter to you 287 00:11:34,258 --> 00:11:38,158 in life to make sure that you don't, you know, land a gutter ball week over 288 00:11:38,158 --> 00:11:42,358 week, over week and fail to partake in the things that light you up, that 289 00:11:42,358 --> 00:11:44,278 you're not living your values, you know? 290 00:11:44,758 --> 00:11:45,148 Okay. 291 00:11:45,238 --> 00:11:48,538 So the basic concept, again, a little bit of a spoiler alert her, but the 292 00:11:48,538 --> 00:11:53,368 basic concept is find the time to pull out of your bus, like out of your 293 00:11:53,368 --> 00:11:57,418 business, and actually foc focus on your business and on your quality of life. 294 00:11:58,018 --> 00:12:03,748 And so I decided to look at, okay, is it possible that Travis and I could do this? 295 00:12:03,808 --> 00:12:08,578 You know, th like three weeks on deliver hardcore, and then actually give them 296 00:12:08,578 --> 00:12:10,738 the last week and sometimes two off. 297 00:12:10,768 --> 00:12:11,188 Okay. 298 00:12:11,668 --> 00:12:13,588 And I started slowly. 299 00:12:13,948 --> 00:12:18,808 So at first I was like, the last Friday of the month, I'm not gonna work. 300 00:12:18,808 --> 00:12:20,968 We're not gonna work, we're just gonna work on the business, or we're 301 00:12:20,968 --> 00:12:24,118 gonna take it off and do three days in Palm Springs together, reignite it 302 00:12:24,538 --> 00:12:25,138 one day. 303 00:12:25,138 --> 00:12:26,038 is all Okay. 304 00:12:26,203 --> 00:12:26,423 Got 305 00:12:26,563 --> 00:12:27,343 That's all I did. 306 00:12:27,823 --> 00:12:28,063 Okay. 307 00:12:28,063 --> 00:12:33,013 One day, and then as I saw, okay, well the earth didn't end. 308 00:12:33,283 --> 00:12:35,113 The little birds didn't fall out of the nest, right? 309 00:12:35,113 --> 00:12:37,183 My cl our clients didn't quit on us. 310 00:12:37,183 --> 00:12:38,533 Nobody had a panic attack. 311 00:12:38,773 --> 00:12:44,863 Then I was like Thursday and then Wednesday, and then introduced the concept 312 00:12:44,893 --> 00:12:49,423 before I took the whole last week of the month off, I introduced the concept 313 00:12:49,423 --> 00:12:54,913 that like, listen, you guys are only in our mastermind, or even if they were in 314 00:12:54,913 --> 00:12:58,483 a enrolling evergreen program, you're only here because you wanna get results. 315 00:12:59,143 --> 00:12:59,563 Okay. 316 00:12:59,893 --> 00:13:05,233 My guess is you wanna get results in a way that sustains your quality of life. 317 00:13:05,263 --> 00:13:07,363 In other words, you wanna make more money and you wanna have more 318 00:13:07,363 --> 00:13:08,773 fulfillment for helping more people. 319 00:13:08,773 --> 00:13:09,613 Yay and yay. 320 00:13:09,943 --> 00:13:13,483 But my guess is you would also like to do that in a way that protects your quality 321 00:13:13,483 --> 00:13:17,053 of life, and it keeps your ax sharp. 322 00:13:17,263 --> 00:13:20,563 So in our community, sometimes we'll talk about, it's like a Tony Robbins 323 00:13:20,563 --> 00:13:23,293 story, but like if you, if you listen to the old school, Tony Robbins, where 324 00:13:23,293 --> 00:13:26,863 he would talk about like the lumberjack who gets the job because he came in 325 00:13:26,863 --> 00:13:31,363 with his sharp ax and this and that, and then three months in he's gonna lose his 326 00:13:31,363 --> 00:13:32,953 job because what did he forget to do? 327 00:13:33,073 --> 00:13:34,603 Sharpen his freaking ax, right? 328 00:13:34,603 --> 00:13:35,053 So like. 329 00:13:35,453 --> 00:13:39,383 So if we could start protecting time in a way that you come in 330 00:13:39,383 --> 00:13:40,523 and you get everything you need. 331 00:13:40,523 --> 00:13:44,903 So there's no loss of reaching our objectives together, but we are gonna 332 00:13:44,903 --> 00:13:49,103 compress that and do that more effectively in the first three weeks of the month. 333 00:13:49,343 --> 00:13:54,263 And then we're gonna give you a month to implement catch up, breathe, right? 334 00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:58,703 Make sure that you're actually living your values, actually enjoying your life. 335 00:13:59,903 --> 00:14:02,093 I thought for sure clients would quit. 336 00:14:02,123 --> 00:14:04,493 Like I thought my private clients would freak out. 337 00:14:04,493 --> 00:14:06,503 I thought that's where my members would leave. 338 00:14:06,743 --> 00:14:11,363 I thought people wouldn't enroll in a 12 week program that was then stretched. 339 00:14:11,363 --> 00:14:15,503 Because you gotta think about if you wanna do four weeks in a row, that's 12 weeks. 340 00:14:15,743 --> 00:14:19,583 It turns a three month program into a four month program because you're taking 341 00:14:19,583 --> 00:14:21,323 that final week off every month, right? 342 00:14:21,323 --> 00:14:24,353 So you're now distributing that 12 week delivery time over four 343 00:14:24,353 --> 00:14:25,373 months instead of three months. 344 00:14:25,373 --> 00:14:25,673 Okay. 345 00:14:26,153 --> 00:14:27,473 I thought everybody would freak out. 346 00:14:28,438 --> 00:14:31,348 The complete fucking opposite happened. 347 00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:36,748 What happened was I got all of these messenger messages, all of these emails 348 00:14:36,808 --> 00:14:42,058 of gratitude from people saying, you know, I come to you because I wanna 349 00:14:42,058 --> 00:14:46,558 be at the bleeding edge of marketing, and I wanna scale my business in a 350 00:14:46,558 --> 00:14:49,558 way that makes sense, and I trust you to do that while I stay in the 351 00:14:49,558 --> 00:14:51,088 forefront of what I'm really good at. 352 00:14:51,613 --> 00:14:57,943 But now that you've done this, you are forcing me to a, make sure I never 353 00:14:57,943 --> 00:15:00,763 have a reason for not implementing everything you tell me because I have 354 00:15:00,763 --> 00:15:05,713 a, a break and two, to protect my own quality of life by emulating this. 355 00:15:06,073 --> 00:15:10,873 And what happened was all of them that were, what happened was, do you know Kurt? 356 00:15:10,873 --> 00:15:13,603 Molly always says when he is telling a story, what happened was. 357 00:15:14,243 --> 00:15:14,963 Love you, Kurt. 358 00:15:15,263 --> 00:15:20,123 Um, so what happened was they all implemented their 359 00:15:20,123 --> 00:15:22,073 own programs the same way. 360 00:15:22,283 --> 00:15:26,093 They all started immediately going, oh my God, wait, this is so smart. 361 00:15:26,393 --> 00:15:30,023 And so they pulled out time from their own, even their 362 00:15:30,023 --> 00:15:31,523 clinic hours, even the ones. 363 00:15:31,673 --> 00:15:36,323 So in case the, in case any of you didn't hear the last podcast, my, my audience 364 00:15:36,323 --> 00:15:37,853 is all health entrepreneurs, right? 365 00:15:37,853 --> 00:15:39,773 So these are not your MDs working at Kaiser. 366 00:15:39,773 --> 00:15:41,723 These are people who wanna own their own business online. 367 00:15:41,723 --> 00:15:42,773 They want scalable offers. 368 00:15:43,073 --> 00:15:47,303 So what all of them did, even the ones who had clinic hours and they also had 369 00:15:47,303 --> 00:15:52,163 online offers, they just kept pulling back Friday, Thursday, Wednesday. 370 00:15:52,403 --> 00:15:56,003 And then some of them will keep their like clinic hours on 371 00:15:56,003 --> 00:15:57,563 Monday, Tuesday, one day a week. 372 00:15:57,743 --> 00:16:02,243 But almost all of them dropped entirely the last week, sometimes two, 373 00:16:02,243 --> 00:16:03,473 and there's five weeks in a month. 374 00:16:03,653 --> 00:16:05,843 And they all started following suit. 375 00:16:06,518 --> 00:16:10,298 And that, and you can see how, what I was saying, right? 376 00:16:10,298 --> 00:16:12,278 Like you could see how, like, you would be like, no way. 377 00:16:12,278 --> 00:16:15,218 There's no way I could do that because I feel so busy right 378 00:16:15,218 --> 00:16:15,668 now. 379 00:16:16,928 --> 00:16:18,368 you could see it, but I forget. 380 00:16:18,368 --> 00:16:22,088 There's a name of the law, there's a name of a behavioral law or 381 00:16:22,088 --> 00:16:24,398 principle that I can't remember. 382 00:16:24,398 --> 00:16:26,198 I'm, I'm gonna fuck up exactly how you say it. 383 00:16:26,198 --> 00:16:29,768 But what it's basically trying to say is people will finish 384 00:16:29,768 --> 00:16:32,588 what needs to be finished in the space of time that you give them. 385 00:16:33,158 --> 00:16:35,468 So if you give them every week of every month, 386 00:16:35,698 --> 00:16:36,628 keep expanding. 387 00:16:37,083 --> 00:16:37,373 Yeah. 388 00:16:37,778 --> 00:16:38,408 exactly. 389 00:16:38,558 --> 00:16:42,728 But if you compress it and it needs to be done by this time, you know, 390 00:16:42,758 --> 00:16:44,618 look how quickly things can get done. 391 00:16:44,618 --> 00:16:45,098 You know what I mean? 392 00:16:45,098 --> 00:16:45,248 Look. 393 00:16:45,868 --> 00:16:50,038 Look how quickly Gavin Newsom just had one thing put on one piece of paper in 394 00:16:50,038 --> 00:16:53,518 a bazillion envelopes that sent it out to California in like less than 90 days. 395 00:16:53,518 --> 00:16:56,308 Like people would've told him that was impossible, right? 396 00:16:56,308 --> 00:16:58,738 And it was like, we're gonna shrink it right on down. 397 00:16:59,068 --> 00:17:02,878 And like when humans have a constrained window in which they need 398 00:17:02,878 --> 00:17:05,218 to get shit done, they get it done. 399 00:17:05,578 --> 00:17:10,228 And so now, you know, we look at the calendar at the beginning. 400 00:17:10,228 --> 00:17:15,538 So we, we put out our calendar in um, November for all of our audience, and 401 00:17:15,538 --> 00:17:18,268 they can see in advance, they can see. 402 00:17:18,928 --> 00:17:20,338 Work, work, work break. 403 00:17:20,338 --> 00:17:22,228 They plan their vacations around it. 404 00:17:22,318 --> 00:17:24,598 They model their delivery around it. 405 00:17:24,808 --> 00:17:28,048 Like we plan our, like there's, I think it works out you guys that 406 00:17:28,048 --> 00:17:31,498 there's like three times in the year, at least some years there's four, 407 00:17:31,738 --> 00:17:35,608 but there's three times a year at least where there's two week breaks. 408 00:17:35,968 --> 00:17:37,768 So we can instantly look at that. 409 00:17:37,768 --> 00:17:41,638 Like Travis and I have our, um, 20 year anniversary brush 410 00:17:41,638 --> 00:17:43,768 our shoulder off, um, next week actually. 411 00:17:44,068 --> 00:17:47,788 And so we can look at the counter and we can see, oh, let's plan our 20 year 412 00:17:47,788 --> 00:17:51,088 on one of our two week breaks and let's go, you know, somewhere we've really 413 00:17:51,088 --> 00:17:55,168 been wanting to go, you know, and, and Maverick can look at that and he can, 414 00:17:55,168 --> 00:17:57,238 he knows when, like our son is Maverick. 415 00:17:57,853 --> 00:18:01,633 He can look at that and he can know when we have big gaps of time and we can make 416 00:18:01,633 --> 00:18:04,093 a cool, interesting travel request, right? 417 00:18:04,363 --> 00:18:07,483 Um, and when we have shorter weeks, you know, and it lets us 418 00:18:07,538 --> 00:18:12,973 plan our vacations, our travel, or our curriculum revamp, right? 419 00:18:12,973 --> 00:18:16,423 Because in your curriculum things change, especially for all of us, right? 420 00:18:16,423 --> 00:18:20,083 If we're in marketing, like AI's coming into play now, super agents are coming 421 00:18:20,083 --> 00:18:23,893 into play and fuck SEO, now we have to get a chat bt to find our brand 422 00:18:23,893 --> 00:18:25,333 instead of just Google search, right? 423 00:18:25,349 --> 00:18:27,973 Like things are constantly changing, right? 424 00:18:27,973 --> 00:18:32,383 So we can look at the weeks that we wanna do content updates and content refresh, 425 00:18:32,593 --> 00:18:35,713 and we just know what that's gonna look like at the beginning of the year. 426 00:18:35,895 --> 00:18:39,705 I think the big thing that I didn't know going into this conversation is I 427 00:18:39,705 --> 00:18:44,265 thought this Thrive Week was literally just for you and Travis, you know, your 428 00:18:44,265 --> 00:18:48,855 spouse and, and family, you know, you mentioned Maverick, but No, like, you're 429 00:18:48,855 --> 00:18:52,185 literally instituting this for everybody. 430 00:18:52,185 --> 00:18:53,485 It's anyone that you're working with. 431 00:18:54,120 --> 00:18:58,230 You were saying, this is the way we do things, and if you're joining us, 432 00:18:58,230 --> 00:19:02,310 like if you're working closely with us, our close high-end mastermind group, 433 00:19:02,310 --> 00:19:05,370 you know, what is it, annual contract, it sounds like an engagement, right? 434 00:19:05,370 --> 00:19:06,060 It's every time. 435 00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:06,480 Yeah. 436 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:06,810 Yeah. 437 00:19:06,815 --> 00:19:07,075 Mm-hmm. 438 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:08,490 They, they join annually. 439 00:19:08,490 --> 00:19:09,090 Exactly. 440 00:19:09,090 --> 00:19:09,360 Yeah. 441 00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:10,350 They join annually. 442 00:19:10,650 --> 00:19:13,920 So you're like creating this expectation of this is how we do 443 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,700 things that just, I mean, it, it literally is a benefit to everyone. 444 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:20,610 So not only are they gonna keep exponentially growing in the business 445 00:19:20,610 --> 00:19:24,150 together with you, with them, with their own business, and they can 446 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:27,960 actually apply things, but you're forcing them to take time off. 447 00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:32,006 And I think the thing I remember hearing about this from, uh, Tim Ferris years and 448 00:19:32,006 --> 00:19:35,486 years ago is like when you have something to look forward to, even if it's a day 449 00:19:35,486 --> 00:19:39,956 off and like a, a mini trip or just even if you're staying in town, you know, 450 00:19:39,956 --> 00:19:41,816 you, you have something on the calendar. 451 00:19:42,626 --> 00:19:46,196 That you get to look forward to your brain, you know, for all 452 00:19:46,196 --> 00:19:49,706 of us procrastinators, which I think all of us kind of are, when 453 00:19:49,766 --> 00:19:50,576 all have a little bit. 454 00:19:50,906 --> 00:19:51,206 yeah. 455 00:19:51,206 --> 00:19:55,646 I mean like we all are, that we, that's why we need to condense our time or 456 00:19:55,646 --> 00:19:57,956 put those bumpers back to the book. 457 00:19:57,956 --> 00:20:01,286 Like that's the idea is like, how do we put bumpers around our lives 458 00:20:01,286 --> 00:20:05,756 that we know the most important shit needs to get done within that, those 459 00:20:05,756 --> 00:20:07,286 bumpers that we set for ourselves. 460 00:20:07,594 --> 00:20:10,774 But then you have this like whole layer of accountability that you guys 461 00:20:10,924 --> 00:20:13,804 bring to the group, and it's mapped out for a whole year in advance. 462 00:20:13,804 --> 00:20:18,664 Like, I'd be stu Yeah, like you're like thriving all year because you know, 463 00:20:18,694 --> 00:20:22,054 all this stuff's coming and ideally you're planning some cool stuff. 464 00:20:22,054 --> 00:20:26,074 You're not just like grinding out work the entire time you're off in your Thrive 465 00:20:26,109 --> 00:20:26,599 exactly. 466 00:20:27,379 --> 00:20:31,719 Or, and if you know that you're gonna grind on something, so like last week, 467 00:20:31,924 --> 00:20:32,919 this is the first week of November. 468 00:20:33,699 --> 00:20:34,119 Mm-hmm. 469 00:20:34,369 --> 00:20:39,259 last week we actually had a Thrive Week last week, and as I, as I shared with 470 00:20:39,259 --> 00:20:43,819 you and Heather, um, my son Maverick had to have his deviated septum corrected. 471 00:20:43,819 --> 00:20:46,519 Well, if you've never heard of that surgery, like they're basically rota 472 00:20:46,519 --> 00:20:50,059 rooting your whole face and it just, it's a whole big, messy, scary thing. 473 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,599 And so we could plan that when we knew we had a Thrive Week 474 00:20:53,599 --> 00:20:55,069 and we could be there for him. 475 00:20:55,299 --> 00:20:59,559 Support and, you know, lounge on the couch and just be with him 476 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:01,410 or whatever he needed, you know? 477 00:21:01,959 --> 00:21:05,319 But because he is, he is also like, he's gonna be 17 in December, 478 00:21:05,319 --> 00:21:07,359 so he is like, okay, get away from me, mom enough cuddles. 479 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:07,809 You know what I mean? 480 00:21:07,809 --> 00:21:09,369 I mean, I'm lucky he's still color right. 481 00:21:09,369 --> 00:21:14,354 But, um, but I also planned the filming of the, um, I have a, I 482 00:21:14,469 --> 00:21:15,609 had a book that just came out. 483 00:21:15,609 --> 00:21:19,119 So obviously in the book funnel, I have an implementation toolkit, 484 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:21,999 like a little member portal with videos of me kicking their ass into 485 00:21:21,999 --> 00:21:23,169 actually implementing the book. 486 00:21:23,409 --> 00:21:27,159 And so I knew, okay, the days before his surgery, I'm gonna be filming the days 487 00:21:27,159 --> 00:21:29,199 after, I'm gonna be taking care of him. 488 00:21:29,199 --> 00:21:31,401 And then when he's sleeping, I'll be filming then. 489 00:21:31,479 --> 00:21:31,689 Right? 490 00:21:31,689 --> 00:21:32,859 So I knew it. 491 00:21:33,009 --> 00:21:38,589 And because Travis and I wanna protect our, our spark, our fire, our passion, we 492 00:21:38,589 --> 00:21:41,949 know, okay, well if we're gonna be filming on those days, which days can we do a 493 00:21:41,949 --> 00:21:45,279 half day and we go out to dinner, or we catch sunset at the beach, we live, right? 494 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:45,879 We live at the beach. 495 00:21:45,879 --> 00:21:48,489 Like, when can we do the little things where. 496 00:21:48,789 --> 00:21:52,959 Stealing away a three or four hour block here, or, you know, meeting 497 00:21:52,959 --> 00:21:55,209 for that little sexy lunch date. 498 00:21:55,209 --> 00:21:56,289 You know, like something like that. 499 00:21:56,409 --> 00:22:01,059 How do we pin all of those things and make sure every Thrive Week always has 500 00:22:01,059 --> 00:22:05,469 at least some of those moments that we know we're gonna bank on, though, 501 00:22:05,469 --> 00:22:07,059 like, those are our, our memories. 502 00:22:07,089 --> 00:22:09,069 You know, like the photo memories you take when you're like, I 503 00:22:09,069 --> 00:22:10,479 just wanna remember this minute 504 00:22:10,479 --> 00:22:10,959 forever. 505 00:22:11,259 --> 00:22:15,369 Like, Like, we make sure that those Thrive weeks, even if we decide to film 506 00:22:15,369 --> 00:22:19,119 a new course or, you know, write a, you know, we're gonna power through three 507 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,179 chapters of our next book or something like that, then let's go ahead and 508 00:22:22,179 --> 00:22:26,049 make sure that we at least do time blocks where, you know, the passion 509 00:22:26,049 --> 00:22:30,429 stays alive and the business is running well and family feels prioritized. 510 00:22:30,429 --> 00:22:31,659 All those good things, you know. 511 00:22:31,684 --> 00:22:34,774 That's what I was gonna ask is, um, you know, in these Thrive Weeks, 512 00:22:34,804 --> 00:22:37,864 'cause I think the way that maybe on surface level, it seems like, 513 00:22:37,864 --> 00:22:39,424 all right, these are Thrive weeks. 514 00:22:39,424 --> 00:22:43,504 I could just like take time off and screw off and, you know, and 515 00:22:43,504 --> 00:22:46,654 if that's what you need, like, I'm sure that's a big portion of it. 516 00:22:46,654 --> 00:22:50,764 Maybe that's even possibly the most important thing to do to rest, recharge, 517 00:22:50,764 --> 00:22:54,244 and, and you know, your brain just like works differently when it's not 518 00:22:54,424 --> 00:22:58,024 staring at a computer on constant calls or whatever it might be. 519 00:22:58,684 --> 00:23:02,464 But at the same time, like you said, you can have time blocks built into 520 00:23:02,464 --> 00:23:06,034 this Thrive Week where you can still, you can work on the business, not in 521 00:23:06,034 --> 00:23:09,754 it, kind of like a whole Michael Gerber approach, E-Myth, you know, so you're 522 00:23:09,754 --> 00:23:13,834 working on the business, these things that, which again, takes a different 523 00:23:14,194 --> 00:23:16,174 wire, you know, focus of your brain. 524 00:23:16,174 --> 00:23:18,784 It just, it's different than when you're like doing this kind of thing. 525 00:23:19,201 --> 00:23:21,001 And also Joe, just think about it, right? 526 00:23:21,001 --> 00:23:25,291 Like if you're looking at the year, like when Travis had his big, he had a 527 00:23:25,291 --> 00:23:30,211 big birthday, you know, like he wanted to go and stay a month in Barcelona. 528 00:23:30,421 --> 00:23:34,681 So we rented a pimp like penthouse with extra room so friends could 529 00:23:34,681 --> 00:23:35,971 rotate through and come visit. 530 00:23:36,211 --> 00:23:40,861 And we did a month in Barcelona, like little day trips here and there. 531 00:23:41,121 --> 00:23:44,541 And so we knew like, okay, the first three weeks of those, of 532 00:23:44,541 --> 00:23:47,601 that month, um, it happened to be like a five week month, right? 533 00:23:47,601 --> 00:23:51,831 So we had two weeks where we just like, whatever, let's go close to Bravo, let's 534 00:23:51,831 --> 00:23:54,261 go to Che, let's go on little day trips. 535 00:23:54,261 --> 00:23:57,321 And like we just had a good time and we didn't think about work at all 536 00:23:57,321 --> 00:23:58,581 for the last two weeks of that month. 537 00:23:58,851 --> 00:24:01,641 But even like the first three weeks were like, well, we just did the time 538 00:24:01,641 --> 00:24:05,511 calculation difference and we showed up for our calls and you know, did a 539 00:24:05,511 --> 00:24:09,051 couple of private client sessions and our mastermind groups and like, but 540 00:24:09,051 --> 00:24:13,251 other than that we were, you know, checking out Picasso museums and eating 541 00:24:13,251 --> 00:24:18,381 tapas and having a good time, you know, so because you can see it in the 542 00:24:18,381 --> 00:24:22,791 year out, like you can see the whole year out, which weeks have five weeks. 543 00:24:23,196 --> 00:24:26,496 You can plan on, okay, we're gonna just play hooky and we're just gonna 544 00:24:26,496 --> 00:24:30,426 completely refresh and cut loose and let our brain relax and not do work. 545 00:24:30,696 --> 00:24:33,486 And then for those of us who love our jobs, like I think a lot 546 00:24:33,486 --> 00:24:36,936 of people who are, who are, are attracted to you and your content. 547 00:24:37,296 --> 00:24:41,586 We do love what we do, and so it is easy for us to be those people 548 00:24:41,586 --> 00:24:45,816 that like, well, balance is just me being able to fit business in, in 549 00:24:45,816 --> 00:24:47,826 a life that I truly love every day. 550 00:24:47,826 --> 00:24:50,646 Like that's what balance looks like for some of us, you know? 551 00:24:50,877 --> 00:24:54,057 So I think it gives you that freedom to choose which ones are we gonna 552 00:24:54,387 --> 00:24:58,047 be working vacations, which ones are gonna be pure play like, and 553 00:24:58,047 --> 00:24:59,577 you can plan around it, you know? 554 00:24:59,877 --> 00:25:03,409 Yeah, and I think that's an important note because when we're so ingrained in our 555 00:25:03,409 --> 00:25:08,929 business, and especially like my wife, Heather and I, and you and Travis spouses 556 00:25:08,929 --> 00:25:13,849 who work together, you know, and it might not be on the everyday working on every. 557 00:25:14,629 --> 00:25:17,989 There's that layer that's different than a lot of other spouses out there. 558 00:25:17,989 --> 00:25:21,049 People, you know, like those of you watching listening, your spouse 559 00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:24,499 or your partner might not be into business and they might not even 560 00:25:24,499 --> 00:25:25,939 want to hear you talk about it. 561 00:25:25,939 --> 00:25:30,946 So, joy, my question is, how the hell do you turn it off? 562 00:25:30,976 --> 00:25:35,806 Like, is it, I don't know if this is a struggle that you or Travis had, 563 00:25:35,806 --> 00:25:40,696 but maybe if it's from other people in your community, like how, not only for 564 00:25:40,696 --> 00:25:42,316 our partner's sake, but for our sake. 565 00:25:42,346 --> 00:25:45,706 'cause sometimes I'll just say, you know, like leaving the business mode 566 00:25:45,706 --> 00:25:48,346 and then I go into family kid mode. 567 00:25:48,856 --> 00:25:51,736 I do, there's, there's a buffer that gets to happen there. 568 00:25:51,736 --> 00:25:53,116 And I'm not always perfect with it. 569 00:25:53,116 --> 00:25:54,766 And this is on the everyday as well. 570 00:25:55,126 --> 00:25:57,256 But it's like, and even Heather will remind me, she's like, all 571 00:25:57,256 --> 00:25:59,926 right, take the, the work brain off. 572 00:25:59,956 --> 00:26:01,636 Or you know, like, I'm just taking on my habit. 573 00:26:01,726 --> 00:26:02,116 It's like, you 574 00:26:02,191 --> 00:26:03,181 Yeah, yeah. 575 00:26:03,886 --> 00:26:06,766 business because now it's different. 576 00:26:06,766 --> 00:26:10,186 It's like lead with your heart more so rather than get shit done 577 00:26:10,186 --> 00:26:11,686 mode kind of thing, if that makes 578 00:26:11,821 --> 00:26:12,391 Yeah. 579 00:26:12,886 --> 00:26:16,636 Okay, I'm gonna totally tell you that, um, first of all, total transparency. 580 00:26:16,636 --> 00:26:19,306 Anyone who knows us know that, like Travis and I went through a rough patch. 581 00:26:19,306 --> 00:26:21,466 We went through a like, are we even gonna do this anymore? 582 00:26:21,466 --> 00:26:22,396 I wanna fucking kill you. 583 00:26:22,396 --> 00:26:22,966 You know what I mean? 584 00:26:23,236 --> 00:26:26,656 Which I do think that in a 20 year marriage, it's normal to have those like, 585 00:26:26,686 --> 00:26:29,086 ah, like, can we even do this moments? 586 00:26:29,356 --> 00:26:32,866 And the real test is not whether or not you have those moments. 587 00:26:33,166 --> 00:26:37,336 It's whether or not when you have those moments, you assume 588 00:26:37,336 --> 00:26:39,826 the best about the other person. 589 00:26:40,636 --> 00:26:43,516 So you start, no matter how pissed off you are, you assume 590 00:26:43,516 --> 00:26:45,586 there's no mal-intent, right? 591 00:26:45,586 --> 00:26:48,616 And then you support the other person through getting to where you wanna go. 592 00:26:48,796 --> 00:26:53,566 So the reason that I share that in advance is I can be, it's funny 593 00:26:53,566 --> 00:26:56,746 because sometimes it'll be him who does it, and sometimes it'll be me. 594 00:26:57,106 --> 00:26:59,536 But that experience that you were just sharing of like, oh, 595 00:26:59,536 --> 00:27:00,581 you're winding down the day. 596 00:27:01,216 --> 00:27:04,096 But maybe she was working, Heather's working in her silo in 597 00:27:04,096 --> 00:27:06,796 the business and, and you're working in your silo in the business. 598 00:27:07,006 --> 00:27:09,436 And Travis and I definitely have very clear silos. 599 00:27:09,436 --> 00:27:11,446 We would've killed each other a long time ago if we didn't 600 00:27:11,446 --> 00:27:12,466 have your side of the line. 601 00:27:12,466 --> 00:27:13,516 My side of the line, right? 602 00:27:13,516 --> 00:27:16,156 Like, so first of all, we have very clear boundaries and 603 00:27:16,156 --> 00:27:16,916 this is your side of the line. 604 00:27:16,916 --> 00:27:17,716 This is my side of the line. 605 00:27:17,986 --> 00:27:22,126 I will take your advice from your side of the line about my side 606 00:27:22,126 --> 00:27:25,366 of the line, but I make my final decisions because of a big ass fucking 607 00:27:25,366 --> 00:27:26,626 girl and I can make my decisions. 608 00:27:26,797 --> 00:27:31,576 And conversely, him being the tech and the AI and traffic side, I might 609 00:27:31,576 --> 00:27:35,206 have my thoughts about his side of the line and I get to express them. 610 00:27:35,386 --> 00:27:38,446 But I also have to respect that ultimately those decisions are his. 611 00:27:38,446 --> 00:27:41,206 So I would say it all starts from, if you're gonna be brave enough to be 612 00:27:41,206 --> 00:27:44,206 a couple that works together, those divisions need to be clearly aligned. 613 00:27:44,446 --> 00:27:48,436 But in answer to your question about how do I solve the problem of my head 614 00:27:48,436 --> 00:27:52,456 is still in business mode and he's like, where's my super sweet, sexy, 615 00:27:52,456 --> 00:27:55,966 hot wife who I wanna twirl around and dance and cuddle up with, right? 616 00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:56,176 Like. 617 00:27:56,653 --> 00:28:01,573 If he catches me in that mode, then it's his responsibility 618 00:28:01,573 --> 00:28:03,283 to a assume the best about me. 619 00:28:03,763 --> 00:28:04,063 Right? 620 00:28:04,063 --> 00:28:08,563 So that looks like, oh, she's being a mama lion for all of our baby birds. 621 00:28:08,563 --> 00:28:08,923 Okay? 622 00:28:08,923 --> 00:28:11,983 So if she's being a mama lion for all of our baby birds, and there's things 623 00:28:11,983 --> 00:28:16,933 on her blonde brain that she can't put down, I need to assume the best 624 00:28:16,933 --> 00:28:20,083 about her and say she's really just looking out for our people, right? 625 00:28:20,083 --> 00:28:22,735 Or our bottom line, or, or protecting our family financially. 626 00:28:22,873 --> 00:28:23,083 Okay? 627 00:28:23,083 --> 00:28:26,563 So it starts with him having a good assumption about me, or 628 00:28:26,563 --> 00:28:30,163 conversely, if he's chatting about business and it's state night, I 629 00:28:30,163 --> 00:28:31,603 have to assume the best about him. 630 00:28:31,903 --> 00:28:37,033 And then we have to recognize that and ask what it's gonna take to take that hat off. 631 00:28:37,363 --> 00:28:41,563 So if I was Heather and you were doing that, then I would have to make the 632 00:28:41,563 --> 00:28:44,623 assumption that like, all right, Joe's trying to provide for the family. 633 00:28:44,863 --> 00:28:49,033 He's being super, super driven about the success of his clients, the success of his 634 00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:52,993 business, all the things she has to make, all the positive assumptions about you. 635 00:28:53,233 --> 00:28:56,023 And then she has to recognize, okay, he is still stuck in business mode. 636 00:28:56,293 --> 00:28:58,093 and then she has to take upon herself. 637 00:28:58,093 --> 00:28:59,263 I have to take upon my self. 638 00:28:59,263 --> 00:29:03,763 When I do it is like, okay, baby, you're still, your business hat is still on. 639 00:29:03,883 --> 00:29:06,913 Like there are things that are still brewing, um, that are 640 00:29:06,913 --> 00:29:08,233 in the way of us hanging out. 641 00:29:08,233 --> 00:29:10,753 And I want you, I want your big strong arms around me. 642 00:29:10,753 --> 00:29:12,463 I just want your grounding presence. 643 00:29:12,463 --> 00:29:16,843 Like for me as a woman in business, and you can ask Heather 644 00:29:16,843 --> 00:29:17,923 if this is her perception. 645 00:29:18,043 --> 00:29:20,173 I could be a whirling durvis of energy. 646 00:29:20,383 --> 00:29:25,273 And then when I am, when I get to switch gears and be feminine and soft, that's a 647 00:29:25,273 --> 00:29:29,113 very driven masculine energy to get shit done all day, make money, hit numbers. 648 00:29:29,323 --> 00:29:31,693 That's a very masculine part of my personality. 649 00:29:31,963 --> 00:29:37,513 So when I get to be with him, then I feel grounded, like less whirling 650 00:29:37,513 --> 00:29:41,623 rocket ship and more like, oh my gosh, like I can actually be soft 651 00:29:41,623 --> 00:29:44,233 and you know, like a bird flew by. 652 00:29:44,233 --> 00:29:46,723 How pretty, like I don't even notice that shit when I'm working. 653 00:29:46,723 --> 00:29:47,203 You know what I mean? 654 00:29:47,593 --> 00:29:48,013 So. 655 00:29:48,298 --> 00:29:51,988 I have to look at him and I have to recognize, okay, he's, he is 656 00:29:51,988 --> 00:29:54,778 in business mode because he has the best intentions possible. 657 00:29:54,988 --> 00:29:57,658 And look at him and say, okay, you're still in business mode and I 658 00:29:57,658 --> 00:29:59,458 need my grounding, big strong man. 659 00:29:59,578 --> 00:30:05,518 What do we need to like, go through really quickly so that we can transition into 660 00:30:05,548 --> 00:30:08,878 hangout time and just be together and not talk about work, and not talk about 661 00:30:08,878 --> 00:30:12,838 our kids or our planning and, you know, paperwork and shit that needs to be done. 662 00:30:12,838 --> 00:30:13,858 Like how do we get there? 663 00:30:14,038 --> 00:30:17,998 And then it usually is, oh, okay, well there's a new ad 664 00:30:17,998 --> 00:30:19,048 campaign going out tomorrow. 665 00:30:19,048 --> 00:30:20,818 I just need to make sure you are understanding this. 666 00:30:21,148 --> 00:30:22,528 Like, you me, this done. 667 00:30:22,588 --> 00:30:26,668 Like, and then once he barfs it out, then he can put it down. 668 00:30:26,878 --> 00:30:32,578 But there's like literally something like almost tangibly in the way if, if he's 669 00:30:32,578 --> 00:30:34,078 still spinning and talking about work. 670 00:30:34,078 --> 00:30:37,528 If I am still spinning and talking about work, it's because there's a few 671 00:30:37,528 --> 00:30:42,148 things that have not been communicated between the silos and once the messages 672 00:30:42,148 --> 00:30:44,278 have been communicated to both silos. 673 00:30:44,488 --> 00:30:46,138 So both silos come home. 674 00:30:46,768 --> 00:30:49,348 One of us is communi is still in business mode. 675 00:30:49,528 --> 00:30:52,228 What communications need to happen between the silos? 676 00:30:52,378 --> 00:30:56,488 We send those messages, we get clarity on ownership, responsibility, 677 00:30:56,488 --> 00:30:59,008 accountability for handling those within a specific timeline. 678 00:30:59,248 --> 00:31:02,638 Then the silos can go back and to being individual and they can shut down 679 00:31:02,638 --> 00:31:04,308 for the night and we can be together. 680 00:31:04,858 --> 00:31:08,218 That's my thing for it, is assume the best about the other person. 681 00:31:08,218 --> 00:31:09,748 They're not doing it to be an asshole. 682 00:31:09,898 --> 00:31:11,908 They're not doing it because they don't think you're important 683 00:31:11,908 --> 00:31:13,378 because they don't value family. 684 00:31:13,648 --> 00:31:17,548 That's a bunch of stories that our ego will tell us because deep down, 685 00:31:17,548 --> 00:31:21,208 a lot of us struggle to believe that we're, we're worth having the love 686 00:31:21,208 --> 00:31:22,528 that we have in our life, right? 687 00:31:22,528 --> 00:31:23,788 So that's just a bunch of garbage. 688 00:31:23,998 --> 00:31:27,538 So if we can put all of that aside and assume the best about the person, 689 00:31:27,778 --> 00:31:31,558 and then make a way for them to download out of that mode, that's it. 690 00:31:31,754 --> 00:31:32,444 I love that. 691 00:31:32,504 --> 00:31:35,354 And that's, that's a, it's a healthy process. 692 00:31:35,354 --> 00:31:37,394 I think assumptions are a big thing. 693 00:31:37,394 --> 00:31:38,414 It's like we gotta assume. 694 00:31:39,104 --> 00:31:41,564 Albeit, you know, we're in a relationship for a reason. 695 00:31:41,564 --> 00:31:44,894 Like I'm 16 years with, uh, Heather this year, so I'm 696 00:31:44,944 --> 00:31:45,674 Congratulations. 697 00:31:45,764 --> 00:31:46,559 but we're, we're 698 00:31:46,904 --> 00:31:47,444 That's great. 699 00:31:48,104 --> 00:31:50,534 But like, you know, you know, when we, when you're with someone, 700 00:31:50,534 --> 00:31:53,024 you, you gotta assume the best, you know, in relationship. 701 00:31:53,024 --> 00:31:56,564 But that goes with your team at work too, and all these other things. 702 00:31:56,564 --> 00:31:58,394 So it's a similar mode. 703 00:31:58,694 --> 00:32:02,504 And I like what you said is almost like you have that core of assumption 704 00:32:02,534 --> 00:32:04,154 that we're all in this together. 705 00:32:04,214 --> 00:32:09,104 Like we're, we have a shared mission vision that we're all striving for, but at 706 00:32:09,104 --> 00:32:11,534 the same time, our brains are squirrely. 707 00:32:11,534 --> 00:32:15,044 They're crazy little things and we need to unload that. 708 00:32:15,044 --> 00:32:19,454 Like, so it reminds me of, uh, that book Getting things done, you know, GTD, like 709 00:32:19,454 --> 00:32:23,174 the GTD method where the first thing is basically get it outta your brain, right? 710 00:32:23,174 --> 00:32:27,254 It's like brain dump wherever you gotta do it on, on, you know, I'm 711 00:32:27,254 --> 00:32:29,234 using this app called Reflect lately. 712 00:32:29,234 --> 00:32:29,924 It's really cool. 713 00:32:30,164 --> 00:32:30,674 Um, 714 00:32:30,764 --> 00:32:31,934 Ooh, I haven't tried that one. 715 00:32:31,934 --> 00:32:32,624 Reflect, 716 00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:34,094 Reflect app. 717 00:32:34,454 --> 00:32:34,694 Yeah, 718 00:32:34,814 --> 00:32:35,324 okay. 719 00:32:35,354 --> 00:32:35,594 Okay. 720 00:32:35,594 --> 00:32:36,734 I'm gonna put that in my phone right now. 721 00:32:36,869 --> 00:32:38,909 Great way to sync up all your ideas. 722 00:32:38,909 --> 00:32:42,179 It's daily remind, you know, you can sync up calendars, all that fun stuff. 723 00:32:42,689 --> 00:32:46,439 And you know, it's that I do voice notes all the time too. 724 00:32:46,439 --> 00:32:51,449 But anything to just unload that shit, that might not make perfect sense, 725 00:32:51,449 --> 00:32:52,529 but it's just like a bunch of to-dos. 726 00:32:52,529 --> 00:32:56,039 'cause yeah, it could spin all, all of us out and that's 727 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:56,969 what Heather will remind me. 728 00:32:56,969 --> 00:32:58,049 She's like, write it down. 729 00:32:58,109 --> 00:32:59,789 And so I did the same thing for her. 730 00:33:00,029 --> 00:33:03,359 It's interesting how it's flipped kind of sometimes over the years in a relationship 731 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:05,789 too, but, uh, but you're right. 732 00:33:05,789 --> 00:33:09,329 Like once you do that, assume the best for yourself and others 733 00:33:09,329 --> 00:33:10,769 and then just unload your mind. 734 00:33:11,159 --> 00:33:12,989 Then I just feel like everything just gets a little freer, 735 00:33:13,389 --> 00:33:17,019 And you use reflect, I'll be honest, like if you don't have a fancy app, 736 00:33:17,019 --> 00:33:19,239 like sometimes I'll just open my phone. 737 00:33:20,004 --> 00:33:22,434 Pull up the next day's Google Calendar. 738 00:33:22,764 --> 00:33:24,264 Everybody has Google at calendar, right? 739 00:33:24,264 --> 00:33:28,644 So like pull up the next day's Google Calendar, find an itty bitty block, right? 740 00:33:28,644 --> 00:33:31,284 Like, and I'll write all the things that are tripping me out. 741 00:33:31,434 --> 00:33:34,254 And even if I don't solve them in that span of time, at least there's 742 00:33:34,254 --> 00:33:38,364 a breather space in my day to schedule them or have them delegated 743 00:33:38,364 --> 00:33:39,744 or whatever, and then I'm done. 744 00:33:39,744 --> 00:33:44,904 Then I can like let my hair down and be feminine and be soft and not be driven and 745 00:33:44,904 --> 00:33:47,544 like goal oriented and in business mode. 746 00:33:47,544 --> 00:33:48,204 So Yeah. 747 00:33:48,204 --> 00:33:48,594 that's my 748 00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:49,179 Well that, 749 00:33:49,443 --> 00:33:52,503 that leads to another, a con I was just thinking about was like, what are 750 00:33:52,503 --> 00:33:58,683 your daily bumpers or like, how do you make every day kind of thrive for you? 751 00:33:58,773 --> 00:34:02,253 Uh, Travis, maybe your, your whole group that you're chatting. 752 00:34:02,253 --> 00:34:05,703 Like, are there like certain bumpers that you would put on, you know, 753 00:34:05,763 --> 00:34:09,483 time-wise, are there certain activities throughout the day that you always, 754 00:34:10,143 --> 00:34:12,483 or at least you roughly have a structure for that you could share? 755 00:34:13,143 --> 00:34:14,463 Yeah, I always have a structure. 756 00:34:14,463 --> 00:34:17,253 First of all, I have to say I'm, I'm spoiled fucking rotten because 757 00:34:17,253 --> 00:34:20,823 not only do I get my Thrive Weeks, at the end of the year, I go up. 758 00:34:20,913 --> 00:34:25,023 Um, so we live at the beach and there's a beautiful like vista up at 759 00:34:25,023 --> 00:34:28,778 Cape Sessions Park near our house, and it's like a mile and it's a 760 00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:30,314 mile and a half up and back, right? 761 00:34:30,363 --> 00:34:34,263 So I take my little puff, his name is Ace, and I get to hike up there 762 00:34:34,263 --> 00:34:38,283 and I get to hike home in the morning, and then I end my day in 763 00:34:38,283 --> 00:34:40,353 time to make my favorite yoga class. 764 00:34:40,563 --> 00:34:45,003 So I have to say at, for a long time, I thought that was really selfish. 765 00:34:45,003 --> 00:34:46,713 Like, oh, I should pick one. 766 00:34:46,743 --> 00:34:49,173 Like, I should do this or I should do that. 767 00:34:49,473 --> 00:34:53,253 I shouldn't be guarding so much time for like my physical 768 00:34:53,253 --> 00:34:55,923 fitness, but I'm fucking wired. 769 00:34:56,163 --> 00:34:59,253 Like I'm wired to move fast, go hard, strong, like. 770 00:34:59,673 --> 00:35:04,113 I, uh, and maybe that's a, a rare thing for, for women, you know, or 771 00:35:04,113 --> 00:35:05,733 people might perceive that it is. 772 00:35:06,063 --> 00:35:11,013 But the more I meet people like, you know, Emma and Deb, and you 773 00:35:11,013 --> 00:35:12,453 know, I know like I'm not alone. 774 00:35:12,453 --> 00:35:16,593 There's a fucking lot of us out there that are wired to move really fast. 775 00:35:16,983 --> 00:35:19,593 And the way that I keep that on the rail. 776 00:35:20,148 --> 00:35:22,128 I think of it like this, Joe. 777 00:35:22,128 --> 00:35:28,398 I feel like all of us have so much fire inside of us, so much fire, light, 778 00:35:28,398 --> 00:35:33,408 brilliance inside of us that we all have to be realistic, um, with ourselves 779 00:35:33,648 --> 00:35:37,938 because fire, energy, anything like that, like, it's like nuclear energy, fire, 780 00:35:37,998 --> 00:35:43,098 energy, any kind of energy is powerful if it's harnessed in the right way. 781 00:35:43,548 --> 00:35:46,998 And it's deadly if it's not harnessed in the right way. 782 00:35:47,358 --> 00:35:50,958 And I notice that like I can get short with other people, 783 00:35:50,958 --> 00:35:52,788 I can bowl other people over. 784 00:35:52,788 --> 00:36:00,048 I can like, you know, I can accidentally use that fire in detrimental ways rather 785 00:36:00,048 --> 00:36:04,548 than it's a light that everyone can see their own way to their brilliant marketing 786 00:36:04,548 --> 00:36:06,498 and, and business strategy through, right. 787 00:36:06,498 --> 00:36:11,568 So my, uh, when I did journaling meditation, like honest assessments 788 00:36:11,568 --> 00:36:14,868 of my life, I was like, when I do my morning and at my evening and 789 00:36:14,868 --> 00:36:16,878 I sandwich my time between there. 790 00:36:17,213 --> 00:36:18,683 My morning gives my blood pumping. 791 00:36:18,683 --> 00:36:20,213 It lets me think out loud. 792 00:36:20,213 --> 00:36:22,103 It lets me like go, go, go. 793 00:36:22,163 --> 00:36:25,583 So that some of that fire is a little bit released physically. 794 00:36:25,583 --> 00:36:30,743 And then I can actually maintain a nice slow burn throughout the day of service. 795 00:36:30,745 --> 00:36:33,023 Like it never gets edgy or gr grungy. 796 00:36:33,413 --> 00:36:38,573 And then before I can be great mom to maverick, great wife to Travis, I 797 00:36:38,573 --> 00:36:41,723 find I need to shut everything down. 798 00:36:41,723 --> 00:36:45,713 I give my ea everything that needs to be set up for the next day, drop 799 00:36:45,713 --> 00:36:50,453 it, walk to yoga, and my walk there is where I'm shifting gears from work 800 00:36:50,453 --> 00:36:53,783 to like, okay, now I'm gonna go be in my body and then my walk from. 801 00:36:54,693 --> 00:36:56,073 It's, yeah, that's the bumper piece. 802 00:36:56,253 --> 00:36:59,823 And then walking back from yoga again, I'm blessed that I, I have a yoga 803 00:36:59,823 --> 00:37:01,173 studio, like we live in Pacific Beach. 804 00:37:01,173 --> 00:37:04,593 It has like one of the highest walkability life scores in the nation, right? 805 00:37:04,593 --> 00:37:08,913 So, um, the walk home from yoga is okay, now I took care of my 806 00:37:08,913 --> 00:37:12,243 body, my mind, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna be present with my family. 807 00:37:12,453 --> 00:37:16,473 So for me, that's what boundary my time is. 808 00:37:16,473 --> 00:37:17,823 I mean, there's other things too. 809 00:37:17,853 --> 00:37:20,973 You know, you know, I'm committed to my peptide stack, you know, 810 00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:22,293 I'm committed to healthy eating. 811 00:37:22,293 --> 00:37:25,623 You know, I'm committed to making sure there's always a social, like, 812 00:37:25,623 --> 00:37:27,243 I need my friends, I need my people. 813 00:37:27,243 --> 00:37:29,913 Like I, I'm over the, we have to do everything alone. 814 00:37:29,913 --> 00:37:31,113 It's not fucking COVID anymore. 815 00:37:31,113 --> 00:37:31,833 We need each other. 816 00:37:31,833 --> 00:37:33,093 Let's get back in harmony. 817 00:37:33,093 --> 00:37:33,483 You know? 818 00:37:33,873 --> 00:37:38,613 Um, so as long as I have my physical routine, my healthy food, my connected 819 00:37:38,613 --> 00:37:42,453 time with friends, those I would say are my like daily bumpers. 820 00:37:42,545 --> 00:37:42,933 Yeah. 821 00:37:42,993 --> 00:37:43,743 That's beautiful. 822 00:37:43,773 --> 00:37:47,943 Thanks for breaking it out because it's, I think, uh, I don't know, we 823 00:37:47,943 --> 00:37:51,153 all live differently, but when we're in our bubble work bubble, especially 824 00:37:51,153 --> 00:37:54,693 like you said, a lot of us are working at home now because of maybe COVID or 825 00:37:54,693 --> 00:37:56,613 whatever else happened in our lives. 826 00:37:56,628 --> 00:38:01,068 I mean, I know that affected, I mean, I have two little, little, little ones, and 827 00:38:01,098 --> 00:38:06,378 they popped around COVID time, so it did put a little damper on the social life, 828 00:38:06,378 --> 00:38:07,968 but at the same time, it's getting better. 829 00:38:07,968 --> 00:38:08,538 It's getting better. 830 00:38:08,538 --> 00:38:08,988 Thank God. 831 00:38:09,258 --> 00:38:10,338 it is getting better. 832 00:38:10,338 --> 00:38:11,508 It is getting better. 833 00:38:11,808 --> 00:38:16,368 And for all the, you know, political temperature and as volatile as that is. 834 00:38:16,758 --> 00:38:21,348 I'm really finding that there's a silver lining there that like people on the 835 00:38:21,348 --> 00:38:25,668 extremes are finally going, wait a minute, red, blue, we're all red, white, and blue. 836 00:38:25,818 --> 00:38:31,308 We all want like, ample money and love and community and freedoms. 837 00:38:31,308 --> 00:38:33,378 You know, like we all kind of want the same thing. 838 00:38:33,378 --> 00:38:37,038 So I do think that even that is like, we're all just humans and 839 00:38:37,038 --> 00:38:38,598 we all just want a decent life. 840 00:38:38,598 --> 00:38:41,058 Like knock it off on both ends, like let's come together. 841 00:38:41,328 --> 00:38:45,948 So I do feel like that community piece is, is I'm seeing it resurge everywhere. 842 00:38:45,948 --> 00:38:49,278 I don't know what your experience is, but I think the divisiveness has 843 00:38:49,278 --> 00:38:52,218 finally started to hit a tipping point where they're like, wait a minute, we 844 00:38:52,218 --> 00:38:53,628 all kind of care about the same thing. 845 00:38:53,628 --> 00:38:58,668 So I'm personally an optimist and a patriot, so I believe we will find 846 00:38:58,668 --> 00:39:02,553 a way, um, to come back to a healthy middle where we all love each other. 847 00:39:02,853 --> 00:39:03,573 I'm with you. 848 00:39:03,603 --> 00:39:08,793 And you know, you have AI as another, you know, uh, something thrown into the 849 00:39:08,793 --> 00:39:13,353 MI mix there too, that, you know, it's, I guess on the service level, people can 850 00:39:13,353 --> 00:39:18,963 connect with AI and, but at the same time, what my thought is humans get even more 851 00:39:18,993 --> 00:39:21,253 important in the whole mix is community. 852 00:39:21,843 --> 00:39:26,703 That's gonna be the thing that will have a lot more value I think, over time, 853 00:39:26,703 --> 00:39:29,433 whereas tech will have a layer to it all. 854 00:39:29,433 --> 00:39:32,493 But you're right, like we need to connect with people, get in groups. 855 00:39:32,523 --> 00:39:35,643 The masterminds we're a part of together, the groups. 856 00:39:35,643 --> 00:39:40,353 I mean, like there's trust there that you can't make without 857 00:39:40,353 --> 00:39:43,563 seeing people and without spending time, you know, legitimately like 858 00:39:43,563 --> 00:39:45,393 years of time with people too, 859 00:39:45,665 --> 00:39:45,905 Yeah. 860 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:46,655 I think so too. 861 00:39:47,175 --> 00:39:51,855 Well, joy, let's wrap up on your book, because it's not on the surface level. 862 00:39:51,855 --> 00:39:55,395 It might not hit everybody here and, and be like, oh, this is for me. 863 00:39:55,395 --> 00:39:58,545 But on a conceptual level, I think it's really brilliant. 864 00:39:58,545 --> 00:40:02,925 So tell me what it is and, uh, you know, concept and how it applies 865 00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:03,390 Yeah. 866 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,540 Um, the book is called Get Cash Pay Clients. 867 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,680 Um, I think everybody would like their clients that are ready to fork over money. 868 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,470 So in that way it sort of could apply to your audience. 869 00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:15,330 It's written specifically. 870 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:18,240 So the subtitle is How Upfront Labs Create a Wildly Profitable 871 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,440 Health Business With Less Work. 872 00:40:19,470 --> 00:40:19,860 Okay. 873 00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:24,990 So the takeaway for health practitioners is, you know, they've been doing 874 00:40:24,990 --> 00:40:29,460 marketing and then nurturing and sales, and then finally enrollment 875 00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:30,960 and then they would do a lab test. 876 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,800 And a lab test isn't a really effective tool of showing people something's 877 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,840 wrong and something needs to be done. 878 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,170 Right. 879 00:40:37,380 --> 00:40:38,370 So my. 880 00:40:39,045 --> 00:40:42,825 Yeah, blood work, a hormone test, a stool test, a SIBO test. 881 00:40:43,125 --> 00:40:46,005 It's confirmation that people are like, I'm not crazy. 882 00:40:46,185 --> 00:40:49,065 There's actually something going on in my body. 883 00:40:49,065 --> 00:40:51,525 And so obviously that makes the sales conversation for 884 00:40:51,525 --> 00:40:54,195 practitioners to have people enroll into working them much easier. 885 00:40:54,405 --> 00:40:55,785 So I was like, knock that shit off. 886 00:40:55,785 --> 00:40:58,845 Pull it from the bottom of the funnel, put it at the top of the funnel. 887 00:40:58,995 --> 00:41:02,115 Now there's legal things that need to happen so that tests can be ordered to 888 00:41:02,115 --> 00:41:04,035 prospects, not patients in a legal way. 889 00:41:04,035 --> 00:41:05,805 So the book kind of covers all of that. 890 00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:12,465 Um, but how that is applicable to your audience, a much wider audience is this, 891 00:41:12,465 --> 00:41:18,225 the fundamental concept of the book is, uh, it presumes that you are no longer 892 00:41:18,225 --> 00:41:20,565 interested in growing an audience of. 893 00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:26,250 Freebie seekers, tire kickers, people who will bleed you dry for information, 894 00:41:26,460 --> 00:41:30,960 never having any intention of actually investing and taking action and being 895 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,370 responsible for their own results. 896 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:32,820 Okay? 897 00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:34,260 So it starts from that premise. 898 00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:39,300 And if that premise is true for you, then it shares a lot of 899 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,070 digging and research that I did. 900 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,120 Kurt, Molly included, to kind of investigate a little bit what 901 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:49,860 happened, like what happened to the effective lure opt-in lead magnet? 902 00:41:49,950 --> 00:41:52,230 What happened to the effective webinar, right? 903 00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:56,550 So in, in our world, okay, we were seeing it tank and tank 904 00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:57,570 and tank and tank and tank. 905 00:41:57,570 --> 00:42:01,830 So ad costs going up, conversions going down, which means cost of client 906 00:42:01,830 --> 00:42:05,610 acquisition goes through the roof and you start to wonder, what the hell am I doing? 907 00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:06,240 Like what? 908 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,320 I have this audience and this email list full of people that I'm 909 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,090 lucky if I can get, you know, a, a halfway decent open rate compared 910 00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:16,150 to what I got three years ago. 911 00:42:16,770 --> 00:42:19,909 And God forbid, I actually wanted a click through rate and sales. 912 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:20,340 Okay. 913 00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:23,805 So it was really starting to look depressing and depressing and 914 00:42:23,805 --> 00:42:25,665 downright like morbid, right? 915 00:42:26,055 --> 00:42:29,715 And so in poking around all of my marketing friends, everyone I knew, 916 00:42:29,715 --> 00:42:34,665 I was like, Hey, it's appearing to me that the algorithms, if we think 917 00:42:34,665 --> 00:42:39,225 about the algorithms as the minions that do the work for all of these 918 00:42:39,225 --> 00:42:43,635 free platforms that we're, we're all consuming content on, okay, if it's 919 00:42:43,635 --> 00:42:45,758 free, then we are paying with ourselves. 920 00:42:45,765 --> 00:42:47,445 We are the product, okay? 921 00:42:47,745 --> 00:42:52,995 So if the algorithms are serving that whole, you know, beehive, then the 922 00:42:52,995 --> 00:42:58,605 algorithms we know are tracking all of the things that we as advertisers can pay for. 923 00:42:58,665 --> 00:42:59,085 Okay? 924 00:42:59,235 --> 00:43:02,205 So if you guys haven't run ads with me, just bear with me, okay? 925 00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:06,195 But if you were running ads, and if you already run them, you know this, okay? 926 00:43:06,345 --> 00:43:08,115 You can pay for video views, right? 927 00:43:08,115 --> 00:43:09,795 You can just pay for something to be seen. 928 00:43:09,795 --> 00:43:12,885 You can pay for a view, you can pay for an opt-in, right? 929 00:43:12,885 --> 00:43:15,585 You can pay for just a conversion or you can pay for a sale. 930 00:43:16,530 --> 00:43:21,360 Okay, so if we start from the premise that these algorithms that are checking 931 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,500 us out and measuring our behaviors, it completely makes sense that those 932 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:31,440 algorithms know, okay, well, Joe is a, uh, he's a content consumer. 933 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,780 He'll watch videos and he'll opt into ship, but he's not the 934 00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:35,190 type to buy from this platform. 935 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:38,880 He's gonna maybe go to Google, find it later, but Joy, she is happy to like, 936 00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:43,530 oh, she saw something that was cute from ri, she's gonna see that ad, she's gonna 937 00:43:43,530 --> 00:43:44,790 click it, she's gonna buy it today. 938 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:45,600 Okay. 939 00:43:45,630 --> 00:43:49,650 Then it makes sense that that algorithm is like, oh, well Joy would be a good 940 00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:53,070 person to serve up for people who actually run a, run a sales conversion. 941 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160 And Joe would be the perfect person for it to put in front of that 942 00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:59,040 opt-in for someone who just wants someone to opt into something. 943 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,970 So the algorithm is probably trying to satisfy its advertisers. 944 00:44:02,970 --> 00:44:03,660 Does that make sense what 945 00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:03,780 I'm 946 00:44:03,885 --> 00:44:04,245 right. 947 00:44:04,245 --> 00:44:04,935 Absolutely. 948 00:44:05,235 --> 00:44:07,365 And they're getting smarter all the time with AI too. 949 00:44:07,365 --> 00:44:07,605 All the 950 00:44:07,625 --> 00:44:07,635 yes. 951 00:44:08,355 --> 00:44:08,595 Yeah. 952 00:44:08,655 --> 00:44:10,095 Exactly, exactly. 953 00:44:10,395 --> 00:44:13,545 I remember when Cambridge Analytica was, was, um, early 954 00:44:13,545 --> 00:44:14,625 involved with the Trump campaign. 955 00:44:14,625 --> 00:44:17,115 They were sharing that like, oh, if you had made five moves in 956 00:44:17,115 --> 00:44:19,635 the online space, they'll you more about you than your family. 957 00:44:19,875 --> 00:44:21,165 And that was decades ago. 958 00:44:21,165 --> 00:44:24,495 So can you imagine now it's probably like, oh yeah, you do two or three things. 959 00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:26,115 It knows your first born child, you 960 00:44:26,115 --> 00:44:26,295 know? 961 00:44:26,685 --> 00:44:26,985 Okay. 962 00:44:27,735 --> 00:44:28,245 Exactly. 963 00:44:28,305 --> 00:44:28,425 Okay. 964 00:44:28,513 --> 00:44:31,905 So assuming that we're believing the algorithms are now, we're being 965 00:44:31,905 --> 00:44:35,985 watched, our behaviors being tracked, I make the argument in the book 966 00:44:36,405 --> 00:44:40,185 that we should all now move people from these free platforms over here. 967 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,115 TikTok, Instagram, meta to YouTube, whatever. 968 00:44:44,325 --> 00:44:44,625 Okay. 969 00:44:44,715 --> 00:44:46,965 We should go from putting out our content on these platforms. 970 00:44:46,965 --> 00:44:49,035 We have to do that to be perceived as experts. 971 00:44:49,425 --> 00:44:53,205 And then when we move them over to our online ecosphere, and when 972 00:44:53,205 --> 00:44:56,595 I say our online ecosphere, I'm talking about our CRM, right? 973 00:44:56,655 --> 00:44:59,235 This is where we take people's money, their name, their 974 00:44:59,235 --> 00:45:00,525 information, all that, right? 975 00:45:00,525 --> 00:45:04,875 So when we move people from the free world over here to our world. 976 00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:11,370 I am much more focused about having quality over here than quantity over here. 977 00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:16,440 And the filtration system that the book promotes you using is let's 978 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,190 go from free content, not free webinar over here anymore, because 979 00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:21,780 that's quality but not quantity. 980 00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:25,290 Why don't we go, uh, let's say a book. 981 00:45:25,420 --> 00:45:27,190 This book is like 9 95, right? 982 00:45:27,190 --> 00:45:30,970 So for me to have from free content over here and I share a concept from 983 00:45:30,970 --> 00:45:35,890 the book and they want it, then they can go into my world in a 9 95 offer. 984 00:45:35,890 --> 00:45:36,760 What does that do? 985 00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:41,890 That gives me a whole community list world in my online ecosphere. 986 00:45:42,205 --> 00:45:45,415 Of more quality leads that are known to be buyers. 987 00:45:45,535 --> 00:45:46,045 Okay? 988 00:45:46,495 --> 00:45:49,855 Now, my favorite three ways of doing that, our number one is a book, 989 00:45:49,855 --> 00:45:51,595 because the cost is so low, right? 990 00:45:51,595 --> 00:45:55,405 You're going to get someone's attention for under, let's call it under 15 bucks. 991 00:45:55,405 --> 00:45:55,795 Okay? 992 00:45:56,155 --> 00:45:57,415 Great way to do that. 993 00:45:57,415 --> 00:46:00,235 If they're not gonna spend 15, they're not gonna spend 15 grand if that's 994 00:46:00,235 --> 00:46:01,795 what you backend offer is, right? 995 00:46:02,425 --> 00:46:05,245 And then that, and that's number one, is the book because of price point. 996 00:46:05,245 --> 00:46:08,605 Number two, if you're a practitioner, is a lab test funnel number 997 00:46:08,605 --> 00:46:10,495 three is a paid workshop, okay? 998 00:46:10,555 --> 00:46:14,065 Paid workshops can be tricky because you act, you actually have to solve 999 00:46:14,065 --> 00:46:18,415 one specific problem that your avatar has on that workshop to prove 1000 00:46:18,415 --> 00:46:20,005 that your value and get shit done. 1001 00:46:20,275 --> 00:46:24,085 But all of those will give you an environment of people that are buyers. 1002 00:46:24,445 --> 00:46:26,035 Now that gets you money. 1003 00:46:26,125 --> 00:46:26,545 Yes. 1004 00:46:26,545 --> 00:46:27,955 It's more, it's more effective, right? 1005 00:46:27,955 --> 00:46:29,845 Because you're actually making money faster. 1006 00:46:30,220 --> 00:46:32,440 But here's the thing I'm really trying to do. 1007 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,150 I'm really trying to train the algorithm that your online content for free 1008 00:46:37,150 --> 00:46:39,190 over here is trying to find buyers. 1009 00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:41,200 It's trying to find the people who bust out their credit card. 1010 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,870 It's not trying to find your freebie seeker, tire kickers people 1011 00:46:43,870 --> 00:46:46,420 who will never actually get off their ass and fucking do anything. 1012 00:46:46,751 --> 00:46:48,701 And the reason that I want that is twofold. 1013 00:46:48,701 --> 00:46:49,751 One, the money, right? 1014 00:46:49,751 --> 00:46:51,791 I like the money track to be faster obvious. 1015 00:46:51,791 --> 00:46:52,151 Okay? 1016 00:46:52,421 --> 00:46:56,561 The second thing is, I want clients who are actually gonna be implementers. 1017 00:46:56,561 --> 00:46:59,201 They're actually gonna do what we teach them to do because if they 1018 00:46:59,201 --> 00:47:02,291 don't, we never get the testimonial, they never get the result. 1019 00:47:02,291 --> 00:47:04,061 It's not good for anybody really. 1020 00:47:04,421 --> 00:47:04,931 And so 1021 00:47:04,931 --> 00:47:05,141 you're 1022 00:47:05,246 --> 00:47:07,676 start, from like ground level Right. 1023 00:47:07,676 --> 00:47:12,746 Indoctrinating them to your process so it's, you're not trying to recreate shit 1024 00:47:12,836 --> 00:47:14,246 when they're way over here and they're 1025 00:47:14,246 --> 00:47:15,176 probably resisting it. 1026 00:47:15,507 --> 00:47:18,717 And then it covers like, the obvious pushback to that is, 1027 00:47:18,867 --> 00:47:22,077 yeah, Joy, but there's always a place for free content valid. 1028 00:47:22,257 --> 00:47:23,457 So fucking valid. 1029 00:47:23,817 --> 00:47:27,567 Um, if I, if I'm gonna be on someone else's podcast, if I'm gonna be on 1030 00:47:27,567 --> 00:47:31,047 a collab with someone who has a big audience, if I'm gonna be on any sort 1031 00:47:31,047 --> 00:47:35,487 of summit or stage, is that a perfect environment for me to say, Hey, here's 1032 00:47:35,487 --> 00:47:37,887 an opt-in and we pull 'em into the list and those people are tagged? 1033 00:47:38,457 --> 00:47:39,957 One could argue, yes. 1034 00:47:39,987 --> 00:47:40,467 Okay. 1035 00:47:40,857 --> 00:47:43,287 Um, and, and I think that that is perfectly valid. 1036 00:47:43,317 --> 00:47:43,737 Okay. 1037 00:47:43,917 --> 00:47:48,627 But I will be completely transparent that I'm way more elitist and 1038 00:47:48,627 --> 00:47:53,277 like superior than that I'll even do on a podcast or on a CoLab. 1039 00:47:53,277 --> 00:47:55,797 And I'll say, Hey, if you want this free thing. 1040 00:47:56,217 --> 00:47:57,927 DM me, right? 1041 00:47:57,927 --> 00:48:02,457 Go to Instagram dm me, and then I can still auto deliver that 1042 00:48:02,457 --> 00:48:04,257 free thing through the dm, right? 1043 00:48:04,257 --> 00:48:06,477 I can use Manny chatter if you, you go high level, you just use 1044 00:48:06,477 --> 00:48:08,037 the in-house system there, right? 1045 00:48:08,337 --> 00:48:10,677 So I still like the filtration. 1046 00:48:10,947 --> 00:48:14,157 So me personally, my business is over the million mark. 1047 00:48:14,157 --> 00:48:15,657 Like I'm not worried about it, right? 1048 00:48:15,657 --> 00:48:19,167 So I would rather focus on quality. 1049 00:48:19,467 --> 00:48:23,667 So even in those environments like I do, I think that's the right environment for 1050 00:48:23,667 --> 00:48:25,017 people who are still growing their brand. 1051 00:48:25,017 --> 00:48:27,057 For people who haven't hit their initial numbers. 1052 00:48:27,267 --> 00:48:30,267 For people who are still really revenue focused, I mean, I'm still 1053 00:48:30,267 --> 00:48:31,377 revenue focused, don't get me wrong. 1054 00:48:31,377 --> 00:48:34,167 Like that's still a benchmark that I measure my success by. 1055 00:48:34,557 --> 00:48:37,797 But even when I do that now, I would way rather be like, Hey, come 1056 00:48:37,797 --> 00:48:41,821 see me over at Real Joy Houston on Instagram and DM me the word book. 1057 00:48:41,847 --> 00:48:44,157 If you wanna know how to write your book, we'll pull it outta you in five 1058 00:48:44,157 --> 00:48:46,887 days in Vegas and you'll get the shit done instead of waiting for a year. 1059 00:48:47,067 --> 00:48:47,397 Right? 1060 00:48:47,397 --> 00:48:53,697 So I would do that rather than we'll go opt in over here for this webinar and 1061 00:48:53,697 --> 00:48:56,637 then they're gonna think about it and then they're gonna nurture for six months. 1062 00:48:56,847 --> 00:49:00,387 I'm actually conditioning those people to be the kind of person 1063 00:49:00,537 --> 00:49:02,547 that drags ass on making decisions. 1064 00:49:02,697 --> 00:49:05,577 And in case you can't tell, like, I'm not a really great leader for 1065 00:49:05,577 --> 00:49:06,687 someone who wants to drag ass. 1066 00:49:06,687 --> 00:49:07,917 I'm making decisions like 1067 00:49:08,127 --> 00:49:08,637 I'm a good 1068 00:49:08,757 --> 00:49:09,447 up with you then. 1069 00:49:09,477 --> 00:49:09,687 Yeah. 1070 00:49:09,687 --> 00:49:09,987 They're not 1071 00:49:10,137 --> 00:49:10,797 keep up. 1072 00:49:11,187 --> 00:49:11,937 Exactly. 1073 00:49:11,937 --> 00:49:12,537 Exactly. 1074 00:49:12,717 --> 00:49:13,347 And you know what? 1075 00:49:13,347 --> 00:49:15,507 There'll be another train that will come by the station that 1076 00:49:15,507 --> 00:49:18,087 goes slower if you don't like that bullet train, you know what I 1077 00:49:18,087 --> 00:49:18,297 mean? 1078 00:49:18,297 --> 00:49:20,357 Like it's totally fine, totally fine. 1079 00:49:20,667 --> 00:49:24,207 So the book basically addresses, Hey, here's what's happening. 1080 00:49:24,207 --> 00:49:25,797 Here's how the algorithm we're working. 1081 00:49:25,797 --> 00:49:26,607 It's breaks down. 1082 00:49:26,667 --> 00:49:30,477 Here's the argument for leading with, if you wanna give away 1083 00:49:30,477 --> 00:49:32,037 something free, do it in a messenger. 1084 00:49:32,037 --> 00:49:34,167 It gives you, it opens up the sale by chat door. 1085 00:49:34,407 --> 00:49:36,567 Right now you can actually see, is this person a good person? 1086 00:49:36,717 --> 00:49:40,167 But when you bring them into your world, take a little bit of money. 1087 00:49:40,437 --> 00:49:44,097 Like if you used to give away a book charge $5, if you used to host a webinar, 1088 00:49:44,097 --> 00:49:45,447 that's actually fucking powerful. 1089 00:49:45,447 --> 00:49:46,317 It has to be powerful. 1090 00:49:46,317 --> 00:49:48,087 It can't be some cheesy, shitty webinar, right? 1091 00:49:48,087 --> 00:49:51,927 But like if they come to a webinar that you could turn into a workshop where they 1092 00:49:51,927 --> 00:49:56,097 finish one piece of it, charge $95 for that, you know, charge 45, I don't care. 1093 00:49:56,337 --> 00:49:59,607 But like put a little, when people pay, they pay attention. 1094 00:49:59,667 --> 00:50:00,267 Enough said. 1095 00:50:00,567 --> 00:50:00,982 That's it. 1096 00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:01,467 Yeah. 1097 00:50:01,467 --> 00:50:02,577 And it always has been. 1098 00:50:02,577 --> 00:50:03,807 So definitely. 1099 00:50:03,807 --> 00:50:06,237 I love your call to action, by the way, to Instagram. 1100 00:50:06,237 --> 00:50:08,307 So say that one more time, because 1101 00:50:08,442 --> 00:50:08,802 I'll say 1102 00:50:08,847 --> 00:50:09,177 is something 1103 00:50:09,222 --> 00:50:09,462 time. 1104 00:50:09,477 --> 00:50:10,617 to mention about you. 1105 00:50:10,617 --> 00:50:14,967 Actually, you and Travis help pull out a book from someone, and I 1106 00:50:14,967 --> 00:50:17,937 don't know, does it matter which industry they're in or, or what, 1107 00:50:18,162 --> 00:50:18,972 It doesn't matter. 1108 00:50:18,972 --> 00:50:23,922 The industry, what matters is, um, that you can clearly articulate the 1109 00:50:23,922 --> 00:50:24,942 problem for your current audience. 1110 00:50:25,782 --> 00:50:26,202 mm-hmm. 1111 00:50:26,292 --> 00:50:27,732 have a proven solution. 1112 00:50:27,732 --> 00:50:30,912 In other words, you have a process, a method, a protocol away, right, to 1113 00:50:30,912 --> 00:50:34,662 solve that problem and that you're willing to break that down and share 1114 00:50:34,662 --> 00:50:38,922 that process in the book in ways that it's a client acquisition book. 1115 00:50:38,922 --> 00:50:43,182 Joe, it's not a, I was born, you know, it is not your life story. 1116 00:50:43,182 --> 00:50:44,682 It's not your magnum opus. 1117 00:50:44,682 --> 00:50:45,732 That's not what it's for. 1118 00:50:46,002 --> 00:50:48,942 It's literally a client acquisition book. 1119 00:50:49,302 --> 00:50:49,542 Okay? 1120 00:50:49,542 --> 00:50:53,472 So if you, if you know what the problem is and you can solve the problem, and 1121 00:50:53,472 --> 00:50:57,372 you have a backend offer that's ready to sell, meaning you already have your 1122 00:50:57,372 --> 00:51:01,512 program, your process, your method, your pill, your magic bean, your super 1123 00:51:01,512 --> 00:51:05,472 cool machine, whatever you have, if you have that offer on the backend ready to 1124 00:51:05,472 --> 00:51:09,372 sell, um, and you can tell the success stories and how your process works in 1125 00:51:09,372 --> 00:51:11,292 a book, then we pull it out of you. 1126 00:51:11,412 --> 00:51:15,402 We basically force you to give little mini TED talks about each step in your 1127 00:51:15,402 --> 00:51:17,472 process, and then we help you compile it. 1128 00:51:17,472 --> 00:51:18,972 That way you're not actually typing. 1129 00:51:19,212 --> 00:51:22,782 We find that something happens between the brain and the fingers. 1130 00:51:23,112 --> 00:51:27,822 That slows down Authors, leaders really, you know, bright luminaries 1131 00:51:28,002 --> 00:51:30,402 get slowed down by that process. 1132 00:51:30,672 --> 00:51:35,082 And so if we can let luminaries just go ahead and speak about it, like talk, 1133 00:51:35,322 --> 00:51:37,062 they can talk about it, no problem. 1134 00:51:37,092 --> 00:51:37,392 Right? 1135 00:51:37,392 --> 00:51:39,252 And they can share success stories, no problem. 1136 00:51:39,492 --> 00:51:44,382 And then with the power of ai, we can take what they said not to be confused 1137 00:51:44,382 --> 00:51:47,652 with all these fly by night people helping like write a book with ai. 1138 00:51:47,652 --> 00:51:48,702 Like fuck that noise. 1139 00:51:48,702 --> 00:51:49,032 Okay. 1140 00:51:49,242 --> 00:51:53,922 This is taking your itty bitty TED talks about the processes of what you do and 1141 00:51:53,922 --> 00:51:56,862 then compiling that your own words. 1142 00:51:57,222 --> 00:52:01,662 From ai, and then the cool thing is we pull it all out of you in a five 1143 00:52:01,662 --> 00:52:05,202 day sprint in Vegas, you're literally sequestered in Vegas at the Aria. 1144 00:52:05,202 --> 00:52:05,952 It's beautiful. 1145 00:52:06,222 --> 00:52:13,722 And then on day five, Travis has this legit gangster GPT that he runs to find 1146 00:52:13,932 --> 00:52:16,752 the appropriate categories in Amazon. 1147 00:52:16,962 --> 00:52:20,232 So before you turn your book funnel on, you can have a soft launch on Amazon. 1148 00:52:20,382 --> 00:52:23,622 You can get to number one in your category proven you pick. 1149 00:52:24,387 --> 00:52:28,407 If you pick a small enough pond, you could just be a goldfish in that pond 1150 00:52:28,407 --> 00:52:29,937 and you could still be number one, right? 1151 00:52:29,937 --> 00:52:32,487 So he's gained that system with A GPT. 1152 00:52:32,727 --> 00:52:35,697 And so we all put our information, the topic of the book, our avatar, 1153 00:52:35,697 --> 00:52:39,567 all into that GBT, and it's like, it like lets us all know, here's the 1154 00:52:39,567 --> 00:52:43,017 categories you're most likely to rank number one in with the fewest sales. 1155 00:52:43,017 --> 00:52:45,027 It does the calculations for us. 1156 00:52:45,057 --> 00:52:48,807 And so we all leave the five days with our book completed, our categories 1157 00:52:48,807 --> 00:52:52,281 selected, our covers off to the designer, and we're off to the races. 1158 00:52:52,527 --> 00:52:54,856 And it's happening in February. 1159 00:52:54,856 --> 00:52:55,606 We do it twice a year. 1160 00:52:55,606 --> 00:52:57,496 The next one is February 22nd. 1161 00:52:57,736 --> 00:53:01,096 So if you want details on that, go to Instagram. 1162 00:53:01,096 --> 00:53:02,836 I am Real Joy Houston. 1163 00:53:02,836 --> 00:53:04,276 So at Real Joy Houston. 1164 00:53:04,366 --> 00:53:07,726 And just DM me the word book and you'll see the whole details. 1165 00:53:07,726 --> 00:53:11,446 It's just a private Google document because it, you know, it, it like, 1166 00:53:11,446 --> 00:53:12,736 we put our heart and soul into it. 1167 00:53:12,736 --> 00:53:16,906 So we only let 12, um, you know, we want 12 authors in with us at a time. 1168 00:53:17,551 --> 00:53:20,221 Um, and, and we do it twice a year, so if this one's already sold 1169 00:53:20,221 --> 00:53:23,101 out, there were two spots as, as of this morning that were left. 1170 00:53:23,221 --> 00:53:24,901 If it sells out, we'll tell you about the next one. 1171 00:53:25,231 --> 00:53:25,711 Sweet. 1172 00:53:25,891 --> 00:53:29,731 No, that's, uh, I've, I've heard about the model, uh, a lot more even right 1173 00:53:29,731 --> 00:53:31,921 before this, and it's, it is gangsta. 1174 00:53:31,981 --> 00:53:36,871 And when it's backed by not only you but Travis, and if y'all 1175 00:53:36,901 --> 00:53:38,971 don't know Travis Houston well, 1176 00:53:39,421 --> 00:53:40,351 hopefully you meet him soon. 1177 00:53:41,251 --> 00:53:41,611 Yeah. 1178 00:53:41,611 --> 00:53:46,171 How that guy can like, stay at the bleeding edge of like AI marketing. 1179 00:53:46,171 --> 00:53:49,981 Like, I'm constantly impressed by, I mean, obviously he's my husband, so I'm partial, 1180 00:53:49,981 --> 00:53:53,941 but like, just on an intellectual level, I'm like, damn, dude, you're a gangster. 1181 00:53:54,226 --> 00:53:54,991 yeah, yeah, yeah. 1182 00:53:55,141 --> 00:53:55,951 So do it. 1183 00:53:55,951 --> 00:53:56,491 Go, go. 1184 00:53:56,491 --> 00:54:01,411 Hit up Joy, because that is, if there's a book in you, which everybody has, I mean, 1185 00:54:01,411 --> 00:54:05,311 you need someone to rip it on outta you in it with a good format and get it done 1186 00:54:05,371 --> 00:54:06,271 and it's not for everybody. 1187 00:54:06,271 --> 00:54:09,301 You have to have a offer because it's literally a client acquisition book, so 1188 00:54:09,301 --> 00:54:12,361 you have to have an offer ready to sell on the back end or it's a waste of time. 1189 00:54:12,661 --> 00:54:16,561 But everybody who's done it with us has a finished their book, and everyone 1190 00:54:16,561 --> 00:54:20,251 who put the book out on Amazon has hit number one in their category. 1191 00:54:20,251 --> 00:54:22,171 So that's a pretty impressive track record. 1192 00:54:22,531 --> 00:54:23,251 That's pretty damn good. 1193 00:54:24,396 --> 00:54:24,686 Yeah. 1194 00:54:24,686 --> 00:54:24,696 Yeah. 1195 00:54:24,696 --> 00:54:24,716 I love 1196 00:54:24,901 --> 00:54:26,941 Well, um, yeah, definitely go there. 1197 00:54:26,941 --> 00:54:30,901 We'll put stuff in the show notes so it's easy to find you and your book as well. 1198 00:54:30,901 --> 00:54:32,461 Get cash paid clients. 1199 00:54:32,881 --> 00:54:37,981 Um, what's, uh, I'm, I'm curious, uh, what's like something on Thrive Week 1200 00:54:37,981 --> 00:54:42,121 or, or what's something that you're looking forward in the next, I don't 1201 00:54:42,121 --> 00:54:47,431 know, few months or so that you're gonna do that's, uh, yeah, like a Thrive Week 1202 00:54:47,481 --> 00:54:47,931 I'm totally 1203 00:54:47,931 --> 00:54:48,801 excited to this. 1204 00:54:48,831 --> 00:54:52,821 Okay, well, first of all, uh, my 20 year anniversary is coming up, so I'm 1205 00:54:52,821 --> 00:54:54,321 super, super looking forward to that. 1206 00:54:54,561 --> 00:55:00,021 But what we're wanting to do around our anniversary is explore a place 1207 00:55:00,021 --> 00:55:01,641 that we heard of through Nuno. 1208 00:55:01,641 --> 00:55:02,751 Do you know Nuno? 1209 00:55:02,751 --> 00:55:04,851 He's like a go high level genius. 1210 00:55:04,851 --> 00:55:05,211 Oh my God. 1211 00:55:05,211 --> 00:55:08,451 If you, if you just go to YouTube and search Nuno, go high level and you 1212 00:55:08,451 --> 00:55:12,621 will find him, and I promise it will be your new Netflix of knowledge. 1213 00:55:12,621 --> 00:55:15,051 I swear to God, he is like, so, he's so smart. 1214 00:55:15,081 --> 00:55:15,381 Okay. 1215 00:55:15,741 --> 00:55:20,751 Um, but also a fucking amazing human, just a kind, amazing, just 1216 00:55:20,961 --> 00:55:22,281 salt of the earth kind of person. 1217 00:55:22,611 --> 00:55:26,391 And we were, he found out that we were looking at Portugal as in as 1218 00:55:26,391 --> 00:55:29,991 a purchasing a second home kind of place, and he told us, oh yeah, yeah. 1219 00:55:29,991 --> 00:55:33,711 All those places you're looking at are fine and dandy and everything, but how 1220 00:55:33,711 --> 00:55:38,901 would you like to move to the island that is known as the Hawaii of Europe? 1221 00:55:39,021 --> 00:55:42,411 And it's also the place where fiber enters Europe, so you're 1222 00:55:42,411 --> 00:55:43,941 never gonna have internet problems. 1223 00:55:44,271 --> 00:55:44,871 I was like. 1224 00:55:45,096 --> 00:55:46,116 Sold. 1225 00:55:47,101 --> 00:55:49,051 What's the, I, I feel like I was, I've 1226 00:55:49,206 --> 00:55:50,166 not gonna tell you now. 1227 00:55:50,166 --> 00:55:51,066 Everybody's gonna move there, 1228 00:55:52,681 --> 00:55:53,041 all right. 1229 00:55:53,041 --> 00:55:54,121 So offline, 1230 00:55:54,186 --> 00:55:54,936 you in private. 1231 00:55:55,056 --> 00:55:59,046 So, so we are gonna be doing some island exploring and, um, and we're 1232 00:55:59,046 --> 00:56:00,096 gonna go there and check it out. 1233 00:56:00,096 --> 00:56:03,696 So that's the thing that's like on the horizon that I'm like, you know, when 1234 00:56:03,726 --> 00:56:07,206 you, when you have something coming up and, and like every dog walk or whatever, 1235 00:56:07,206 --> 00:56:10,566 you're like googling it or watching YouTube videos on it, and you just get 1236 00:56:10,566 --> 00:56:11,916 goosebumps when you think about it. 1237 00:56:11,916 --> 00:56:12,726 That's, that's 1238 00:56:12,726 --> 00:56:13,326 the thing That's 1239 00:56:13,381 --> 00:56:15,696 on the horizon for me that I'm so excited about. 1240 00:56:15,696 --> 00:56:15,966 Yeah. 1241 00:56:16,111 --> 00:56:16,741 All right. 1242 00:56:16,741 --> 00:56:19,831 Well I like the, um, I like people could do their own research, but 1243 00:56:19,831 --> 00:56:20,866 I'm gonna get the intel right now. 1244 00:56:21,456 --> 00:56:21,636 Yeah. 1245 00:56:21,636 --> 00:56:22,986 I will, I'll tell you and Heather. 1246 00:56:23,136 --> 00:56:23,626 Awesome. 1247 00:56:24,331 --> 00:56:26,281 Well, hey, let's, um, this is great. 1248 00:56:26,281 --> 00:56:27,121 Thank you Joy. 1249 00:56:27,181 --> 00:56:30,961 And yeah, this whole Thrive Week, I mean we covered so much and here and 1250 00:56:30,961 --> 00:56:35,461 also in that peptide episode from before whenever we, it was probably before this. 1251 00:56:35,611 --> 00:56:36,421 Go check it out. 1252 00:56:36,451 --> 00:56:36,991 Joy. 1253 00:56:37,051 --> 00:56:40,651 You rock hu Uh, I was gonna try, I call Travis Houston. 1254 00:56:41,206 --> 00:56:42,346 Travis, you rock too. 1255 00:56:42,346 --> 00:56:44,326 You're not even here, but you totally rock. 1256 00:56:44,641 --> 00:56:45,151 God damn. 1257 00:56:45,151 --> 00:56:47,341 Yeah, so love you too. 1258 00:56:47,401 --> 00:56:49,621 And uh, we'll keep it going. 1259 00:56:49,621 --> 00:56:50,041 So 1260 00:56:50,236 --> 00:56:50,806 thank you. 1261 00:56:50,806 --> 00:56:51,916 Give Heather a hug for me. 1262 00:56:52,171 --> 00:56:52,621 I will. 1263 00:56:52,621 --> 00:56:52,981 I will. 1264 00:56:53,056 --> 00:56:53,356 All right. 1265 00:56:53,356 --> 00:56:53,566 Bye. 1266 00:56:53,566 --> 00:56:53,866 hun.