Welcome to Just Breathe Parenting your LGBTQ teen, the podcast transforming the conversation around loving and raising an LGBTQ child, filled with awesome guests, practical strategies, and moving stories.
Speaker AHost Heather Hester always makes you feel like you're having a cozy chat.
Speaker AWherever you are on this journey right now, in this moment in time, you are not alone.
Speaker AAnd here is Heather for this week's amazing episode, foreign.
Speaker BWelcome to Just Breathe.
Speaker BI am so happy that you are here today.
Speaker BIt is the last Tuesday of June and my last episode for Pride Month 2022, and it has just been so much fun doing all of the different episodes that I've done for this month, as well as the social media that I hope you've all had a chance to check out.
Speaker BMy daughter Isabel actually helped me a lot with this.
Speaker BAnd every day of this month we have featured somebody who has had.
Speaker BWho has just made it so much easier for our kids, who has done something special, who has been an advocate, who has been an activist, who has just made their mark for the LGBTQIA community in a way that needs to be recognized.
Speaker BAnd so some people have been people that you would expect to see in a list like this.
Speaker BOthers we just had so much fun learning about.
Speaker BSo I do hope that you enjoyed it and if you haven't seen it yet, yet have a chance to enjoy it.
Speaker BSo I thought it would be great to end this month with an episode on how to be a good ally.
Speaker BI have done this topic before and I believe a couple years ago actually, and I have added a lot to it and expanded it a great deal.
Speaker BSo I really thought it would be.
Speaker BJust thought it was important to do it again and to offer some.
Speaker BSome new insight and some new thoughts on the topic.
Speaker BAnd it's something that I feel like we're kind of all wanting to learn about and continue learning about.
Speaker BSo anyway, as I talk about this topic, it is one that I feel like I talk about a lot in different ways.
Speaker BAnd I think kind of my.
Speaker BMy one of my favorite topics to discuss outside of, you know, how you can best support your child when they came out.
Speaker BBut as I was looking up things that I really wanted to share specifically today, I came across a quote that I thought was rather timely and I wanted to share it with you all.
Speaker BJ. Dodd said, allyship is not showing the world how good you are being.
Speaker BIt is showing the world how backwards it is.
Speaker BI again believe this is very timely, but it's also even more than that, it is a chance for us to really recognize that it is extraordinarily vital for us to put differences aside and to advocate for each other's basic human rights.
Speaker BAnd remember that that is what a lot of these issues boil down to.
Speaker BIt's easy to get stuck in the weeds.
Speaker BIt's easy to get really wound up about different specific things that are said, but really just kind of listening to that, keeping that in mind, taking that to heart.
Speaker BSo, in a broad term, many of the ideas that I have today, the suggestions that I'm going to make about being a good ally, can cross over to being a good ally for any group, any person.
Speaker BBut I'm going to talk about them today, specifically with regard to the LGBTQIA community and LGBTQIA people.
Speaker BSo who can be an ally?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThat's one of the big questions.
Speaker BWho can do this?
Speaker BWell, it's anyone who knows and cares about an LGBTQIA person.
Speaker BFor some, being an ally is as easy as breathing, right?
Speaker BIt's just a no brainer.
Speaker BFor others, it's something that you want to do and you feel compelled to do, but it takes intentional effort.
Speaker BWherever you are on that continuum, you are showing up for the person or the people you care about in a very meaningful way.
Speaker BSo I want to start out with a definition of ally, because I love words, you know that.
Speaker BAnd I thought this would be a great way to kind of get a base understanding of what an ally is.
Speaker BAccording to Merriam Webster, it is a person or a group that provides assistance and support in an ongoing effort, activity, or struggle.
Speaker BSo my addition to that is specific to the LGBTQIA community.
Speaker BIt is a straight and or cisgender person who has a genuine strong concern for their well being, one who supports and affirms LGBTQIA people and advocates for equal rights.
Speaker BIt is also someone within the community, for example, a bisexual person who is an ally to non binary people.
Speaker BYou may be an expert on your own identity or your own orientation, and yet know very little about others under the LGBTQIA umbrella or how to be an ally to other marginalized communities.
Speaker BSo this really is for everyone, right?
Speaker BI mean, that's kind of what it boils down to.
Speaker BSo I really want you to take a moment right now.
Speaker BYou can pause this and really think about what being a good ally means to you in this moment.
Speaker BWhat is your definition that you have in your head?
Speaker BI also believe that an ally is one who confronts challenges that LGBTQIA people experience and believes that they are societal.
Speaker BFor example, heterosexism or heteronormativity, which is what we learned about a Few weeks ago from Chris Tompkins Right.
Speaker BSuch a great learning opportunity and just so much to think about.
Speaker BBut both of those in different ways, are the assumption that everyone is or should be straight.
Speaker BAnother example of this is bi prejudice, harmful preconceived ideas about bisexual people.
Speaker BAnd I'd also like to add to that false, misinformed right at the base of all of this, what is it we all know?
Speaker BFear.
Speaker BIn a broad sense, allies can help validate a cause.
Speaker BThey can be a cultural bridge.
Speaker BThey can model what is possible.
Speaker BHowever, an ally is not an identity.
Speaker BI want to repeat that because many think that the A and LGBTQIA stands for ally, and it does not.
Speaker BAlly is not an identity, it is a label.
Speaker BAnd I'd actually like to take that one step further and say it is a verb.
Speaker BWhen we think of allyship in terms of the actions we can take to support and advocate, it automatically removes that ego, right?
Speaker BThat need to have a label or have a.
Speaker BLike, I am part of this and really just kind of move into that action.
Speaker BThat doing this is what I am doing to help, removes that ego and falls in line with that wise old adage, actions speak louder than words.
Speaker BFurthermore, ally is just.
Speaker BIt's more personal.
Speaker BSo the big question is, how can we be the best possible ally to our kids, our grandkids, our nieces, our nephews, our friends, our students, our co workers, whomever, right?
Speaker BYou name it.
Speaker BHow can we be the best possible ally?
Speaker BSo, as usual, I found lots of amazing information and I have lots of research that I've already done that I've kind of tapped into.
Speaker BAnd so I thought it might be.
Speaker BEven though I've expanded a lot on my original podcast episode, I still thought it would be helpful to keep this as more of a How to be a good ally 101 and let this be information that is kind of a starting point for you.
Speaker BSo you can just grab what resonates with you and research more from there.
Speaker BRun with it.
Speaker BAdditionally, for simplicity, I summarize this for you into eight ways anyone can be an ally.
Speaker BAnd then at the very end, we're going to talk about how to handle or how to answer some really typical questions that you may get as an ally.
Speaker BSo here are the eight ways that anyone can be a good ally.
Speaker BFirst, be a good listener.
Speaker BAs in be present.
Speaker BSee and hear the person who is speaking to you.
Speaker BNow, I know you hear that and you think, got it.
Speaker BYou say that all the time, Heather.
Speaker BAnd we all have the intention of listening, right?
Speaker BWe think we are listening.
Speaker BBut really being able to be an active listener present in a conversation takes effort and it takes being quite intentional, which for those of you who can do this naturally, bravo.
Speaker BI know for me it took a lot of work and there are still times where I'm like, oh, I'm so tired.
Speaker BBut it is really super meaningful when you can be present, when you can see and hear that person who is speaking to you, when you can really create that space between the two of you where there is true deep understanding.
Speaker BSo, of course this takes work, right?
Speaker BThis is in some cases work getting to the place where you believe that all people, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, should be treated with dignity and respect.
Speaker BBut do the work.
Speaker BDo the work.
Speaker BAnother part of this is knowing what to say and what not to say when someone comes out to you.
Speaker BSo I'm just going to give you a few examples and these might be quite obvious and I would like as I'm doing this, I'm sure you can think of a bunch more as I'm saying them, but these are the ones I just felt this was kind of an important thing to say and why.
Speaker BSo when someone comes out to you, here are a few things you can say that are wonderful to say.
Speaker BCongratulations, I'm so happy for you.
Speaker BOr you can say, thank you for trusting me enough to let me know the things that you don't want to say.
Speaker BAnd I share these because you know which ones of these I've done.
Speaker BFirst and foremost, are you sure you know the reasons why just don't do it.
Speaker BAnother one not to say is, this might be a phase.
Speaker BAgain, as with are you sure?
Speaker BThe person who is sharing this information with you has likely been thinking about this for weeks, months, years.
Speaker BThey are sure it is not a phase, regardless of their age.
Speaker BAnd the final one is, when did you decide this?
Speaker BAgain with this one, it's the word decide, not a decision.
Speaker BIt would be like me asking anyone out there, who is straight, when did you decide to be straight?
Speaker BWhen?
Speaker BWhen did I decide to, you know, a cisgender, straight white woman?
Speaker BNot something I decided.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo likewise, someone who is sharing with you their sexual orientation or gender identity, not a decision.
Speaker BSo I'm sure you can add your own to this.
Speaker BAnd you know, we could of course probably spend an entire episode on that.
Speaker BBut to keep moving, I want to encourage you to not be afraid to ask questions.
Speaker BIt is good to be curious and to want to learn.
Speaker BAnd in that curiosity, just remember to be respectful in asking your questions and being curious and think about your wording, think about your audience, think about your where you are at the time that you are asking these.
Speaker BAdditionally, in this work, challenge stereotypes as well as your own unconscious bias.
Speaker BEducate yourself on LGBTQIA history, issues, policies, adversity.
Speaker BHave conversations with LGBTQIA people and learn about their experiences.
Speaker BDo not be afraid of making mistakes.
Speaker BIt's gonna happen.
Speaker BIt's gonna happen.
Speaker BYou are human and it's part of the learning experience.
Speaker BThis is something that Connor always reminds me that it is much better to make a mistake while trying than to just stay silent.
Speaker BAnd trust me, I still make mistakes on a daily basis and I've just gotten better at picking myself up and continuing to move on.
Speaker BSo the next point, and this kind of leads into the next point, which is get comfortable with being comfortable.
Speaker BI know I say this one a lot.
Speaker BIt applies here too.
Speaker BYou are learning all new information.
Speaker BIf you are the type of person who is working to shift your mindset, or if you are confronting your own previously held prejudices or biases, this education is going to be uncomfortable.
Speaker BThat is okay.
Speaker BBreathe through that discomfort and allow yourself the space and time to process what you are learning.
Speaker BEmbrace that you will make those mistakes.
Speaker BYou are human.
Speaker BThe goal is not to be perfect.
Speaker BIt is for all to be free to live authentically.
Speaker BThe next one is to hold shared secrets, meaning do not out people or share their orientation or identity with others.
Speaker BIt is not your story to share.
Speaker BTo build on that one a little bit in case it's not super clear.
Speaker BIf someone has confided in you their sexual orientation and or their gender identity, that is, they are trusting you with that information.
Speaker BThat is not your information now to share with someone else.
Speaker BThat is your information trusted information to hold on to.
Speaker BAnd it can be in the case of having a child, share this information with you, such as when Connor came out to us, many, many conversations.
Speaker BAnd it's a great conversation starter for.
Speaker BThank you for sharing this with us.
Speaker BAnd then as we moved, you know, days and weeks and months, who do you want to share this information with?
Speaker BWho would you like for us to share this information with?
Speaker BWho do you want us to be there with you when you share the information?
Speaker BSo it just opens a door for really great conversations.
Speaker BAs the next one is a big one.
Speaker BIt's Speak up online in person.
Speaker BSpeak Up Social media, of course, is one way to do this.
Speaker BIt's probably the easiest way to show allyship.
Speaker BYou can also do it by volunteering.
Speaker BYou can volunteer online, you can volunteer in person and you can show solidarity online as well as in person, but I have a few ways that you can volunteer.
Speaker BShow that allyship by volunteering.
Speaker BAnd again, this can be done in person or online.
Speaker BI talk about a lot of these organizations a lot, but they are a great place to get started and can even help guide you if you're looking for something that is more specific to your community, what your community might have available.
Speaker BIf you cannot find something outright, starting with one of these larger organizations may help you find something, may help you even start something.
Speaker BSo here's my list and you can find all of these on my website if you want more information.
Speaker BBut I laid off with the Trevor Project.
Speaker BYou know how much I love them.
Speaker BGilson is another one, and I don't talk about them enough.
Speaker BBut what their mission is is to create safe and affir schools for everyone, regardless of their sexual orientation, their gender identity or their gender expression.
Speaker BAnother wonderful one is the Tyler Clemente foundation.
Speaker BAnd then of course hrc, which is the Human Rights Campaign, pflag, It Gets Better and sage, which is one that I sometimes forget about what I'm talking about.
Speaker BBut it's a really, really important one because it is a national organization that offers supportive services and consumer resources to older LGBTQIA people and their caregivers.
Speaker BSo really lovely one there to check out.
Speaker BShowing up as an ally in real life is a privilege and it can also feel really uncomfortable.
Speaker BBut it is something that is so important to do and the more that you do it, like anything, the easier it's going to get right.
Speaker BThe more that you'll find your wording, you'll find your footing.
Speaker BBut here are a few situations that you might find yourself in, or a few ways that you can really show up as a great ally in situations where someone is using slurs or insensitive language, Speak up.
Speaker BIt doesn't have to be an argument.
Speaker BIt can be very calm.
Speaker BIt can be calmly saying that's not okay, please don't use that word, or please don't use that phrase again.
Speaker BI know this can be awkward, especially at the beginning, but making others aware that their words can be hurtful is a step toward affecting change.
Speaker BAnother one, and kind of similar is respectfully correcting others if they misgender someone.
Speaker BSo this can be done very much with sincerity.
Speaker BIt can be done with the spirit of educating others.
Speaker BAnd I really, truly believe that people want, in a general sense, there are more people who really want to be kind and just don't know any better.
Speaker BSo by offering this information in a kind way and a gentle way, not only shows the person that you're with that you have their back, that you are a solid, trustworthy ally.
Speaker BIt also shows the people that you are talking to that this can be done very respectfully.
Speaker BAnd learning doesn't have to be scary or crazy or radical or whatever other words you want to use, right?
Speaker BBe inclusive.
Speaker BBe aware of opportunities to increase connection and decrease isolation, which is something that's been really big over the past few years.
Speaker BThis is also a really important skill to instill in your children as they learn to connect with others and be aware of others.
Speaker BPromote diversity in your workplace.
Speaker BDiversity, equity and inclusion is rightly becoming very important at many companies.
Speaker BIf your company already has a DEI group, find out how to get involved.
Speaker BIf they don't, see what you can do to start one.
Speaker BAnd the last one I share with some caveats, especially as we are ending Pride Month 2022.
Speaker BI love, love, love seeing people in Pride gear when I'm out and about, it just makes me smile, it makes me happy.
Speaker BAnd I of course, have my own favorite things that I wear.
Speaker BI have my favorite T shirts, I have my favorite hats that I wear throughout the year.
Speaker BHere's where my caveat is.
Speaker BThere's a fine line.
Speaker BI think it is so important that LGBTQIA people dress authentically, dress to express who they are.
Speaker BAnd it is important to be aware of rainbow capitalism and only purchase from companies who truly support LGBTQIA people.
Speaker BSo I was saying this the other day to another group and a great question came up which is, how do we know, how do we know who supports LGBTQIA people and who doesn't?
Speaker BAnd my answer to that was a couple of ways.
Speaker BFirst, a lot of these companies will have right on their website if they are supporting the Trevor Project or It Gets Better or PFLAG or hrc, any of these, they'll have it right there.
Speaker BThey want you to know and you can follow that through to make sure that that is accurate.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BYou can also do it the other way around, which is get on the website of whatever your, you know, your favorite organizations are.
Speaker BAnd a lot of times, especially during June, they will list out the companies who they recommend, who are supporting them, who they are giving kind of the thumbs up to.
Speaker BSo those are two easy ways to do that.
Speaker BThe next way to be a good ally is to support equality, educate yourself about policies that protect LGBTQIA people from discrimination within your workplace, discrimination at your kids, schools within your community, and so on.
Speaker BSo this is a really, really big one.
Speaker BAnd one that is really, as we all know, coming under fire in many, many ways across our country and different states.
Speaker BAnd, you know, is certainly worth a much longer conversation than a 32nd bit here.
Speaker BFind out what the policies are at your kid's school.
Speaker BFind out what the policies are in your community, in your county, in your state.
Speaker BAnd really, that's a great starting place to know where things are and where you can support and where you can speak up or volunteer.
Speaker BThe next one is learn the language.
Speaker BIt's respectful, first of all, and it reflects your desire to be an ally when you use the right words and the right pronouns.
Speaker BNever assume someone's sexual orientation or gender identity.
Speaker BAsk if you're unsure and if it's appropriate.
Speaker BMy website has a basic glossary that you can go to and look at.
Speaker BAnd in a few weeks, I will be rolling out an in depth workshop on the language of lgbtqia, what words mean and how to use them appropriately.
Speaker BIf this is something you are interested in, please, I have a link in the notes, the show notes.
Speaker BClick on that link and I will make sure that you get information as soon as I roll this course out.
Speaker BAnother way that you can just be aware or you may hear this going on around you, especially from your kids.
Speaker BThis is something I learned first, of course, from my kids, which was a few years ago, Connor started using the word y'.
Speaker BAll.
Speaker BNow, we're from the Chicago area, we don't use that word here.
Speaker BNot that I have anything against it at all.
Speaker BIn fact, I quite like it.
Speaker BI think it sounds very warm and inviting, but that's just not how we speak up north, right?
Speaker BWe have always used the words like you guys or ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker BSo I finally asked him, you know, why he switched and started using that?
Speaker BAnd he said, because it's inclusive of everyone.
Speaker BI was like, oh, my gosh, of course.
Speaker BThat makes so much sense.
Speaker BSo kind of putting all of that together.
Speaker BI've always had this, like, it sounds inviting, right?
Speaker BIt sounds welcoming and it's inclusive, so you can use y' all and no one is going to feel left out.
Speaker BSo if you don't already use y', all, it's gonna take a little work.
Speaker BI still goof and say, you know, you guys or whatever, but I am slowly making the shift and it's worth it and it's actually quite fun.
Speaker BSo I highly recommend this, finally offer financial support if you are able.
Speaker BAny LGBTQIA nonprofit would be delighted with your support.
Speaker BAnd believe it or not, a five dollar Donation does make a difference.
Speaker BSo consider hopping on the website before the end of this month especially, and supporting your favorite, favorite nonprofit.
Speaker BSo here is just.
Speaker BHere are, I should say, a few questions that you will probably get as an ally, and just a few suggestions on ways you can answer them.
Speaker BI know it can be tricky.
Speaker BIt can be, again, it can be uncomfortable.
Speaker BBut kind of knowing ahead of time what might be coming your way, you know, really thinking about why it is you believe, what you believe, and why it is that you are an ally will really help you form your answers and help you come up with the words that sound the most like you.
Speaker BBut I thought I would throw these out there for you just to give you.
Speaker BJust kind of get you started.
Speaker BSo the first statement is, I thought we were in a good place with LGBTQIA rights and inclusion.
Speaker BSo, depending on where you live, this may seem like a fair question or a fair statement, or it may seem like it's very far from the truth.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BThis is a very geographical type statement.
Speaker BHere is why it is actually the latter and why allies are desperately needed.
Speaker BLGBTQIA individuals do not have legal protection on a federal level in the United States.
Speaker BIn many states, there is still widespread discrimination, meaning you can lose your job, you can not qualify for housing funding or lose your housing.
Speaker BYou can have service refused to you at a restaurant or a retail store.
Speaker BAnd the examples go on and on.
Speaker BIn other countries around the world, being LGBTQIA is a crime punishable by prison and in some cases, death.
Speaker BIt can also be helpful to approach this statement by showing examples of what a straight cisgender person can do that are often exponentially more difficult for an LGBTQIA person.
Speaker BSo, using myself as an example, I can go to the bathroom pretty much anywhere I am.
Speaker BI have no problem finding a bathroom.
Speaker BI can hold hands with my husband in public and nobody bats an eye.
Speaker BI can go to any ER anywhere and receive respectful medical care.
Speaker BAnd I can see representation of myself in books, in stories, in history that is taught in movies and other media.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo think about that.
Speaker BThe next one that you might hear or be asked is, I treat everyone the same.
Speaker BWhat's wrong with that?
Speaker BSo while this one is really frustrating, I do actually believe that it's coming from a place of kindness.
Speaker BA lot of cases, it's just one that needs gentle education.
Speaker BThere are two ways to help people understand why this is, at best, not helpful and at worst, incredibly offensive.
Speaker BThe first way is educating others about the difference between equality and equity.
Speaker BThe most effective way to show this is by using personal stories, your own personal stories.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut defining the term also works.
Speaker BSo here you go.
Speaker BEquality means everyone is getting the same.
Speaker BBut this only works if everyone has started in the same place and.
Speaker BOr everyone has the same needs.
Speaker BEquity means every individual has or is given what they need to succeed or live happily.
Speaker BSee the difference?
Speaker BThe second way to illustrate this is more conversational, discussing how all humans have different identities, different beliefs, different abilities, different life experiences, and different needs, and they don't necessarily want to be treated the same as everyone else.
Speaker BThere's a lot of different in there, right?
Speaker BSo this becomes more about seeing people on an individual or human level and recognizing and respecting needs.
Speaker BAnd there are so many ways you can illustrate this, but, you know, one that is just very common is, you know, thinking about how you might respect someone coming into your home who has a food allergy, right?
Speaker BYou have someone coming over for dinner, you're having a dinner party, and one of your friends has a peanut allergy.
Speaker BNow, would you serve peanut chicken for dinner?
Speaker BProbably not, right?
Speaker BIt is the same thing.
Speaker BIt is the same thing.
Speaker BSo it's just respecting individual needs.
Speaker BThe next one that I'm going to share is a little bit triggering for me.
Speaker BIt's a little bit hard, but I know that it's one I've seen pop up dozens of times this month, and I just really felt that it was important to address.
Speaker BAnd that is, why isn't there a straight pride parade?
Speaker BSo this one is the reason it is triggering is because it is part of one of the final conversations I had with my brother three years ago.
Speaker BAnd that is a story for another day.
Speaker BBut it kind of falls into that same category as questions like, where's my special safe place?
Speaker BOr why should LGBTQIA people get special rights?
Speaker BAnd so on.
Speaker BSo here's a few ways you can answer these type of questions.
Speaker BFirst, straight pride happens every day.
Speaker BMeaning straight and cisgender people see themselves represented everywhere, all of the time.
Speaker BIn art, in film, in corporate right life, in awards and inventions.
Speaker BAn LGBTQIA child can go through a typical K12 curricula and think that no LGBTQIA person has ever done anything of note or contributed to society in any way.
Speaker BAnd as we all know, there are those who are, unfortunately, actively working to make sure that never happens.
Speaker BThere's answer number one.
Speaker BNumber two, LGBTQIA people are not seeking special rights.
Speaker BThey're seeking human rights, the rights that many take completely for granted, or worse, abuse, to keep themselves in power.
Speaker BHuman rights.
Speaker BThe next, when a child or teenager is bullied about race or religion, they typically have their parents to turn to for support and helpful suggestions because their parents have probably been through similar situations, right?
Speaker BHowever, parents and family members can sometimes be an additional source of stress or harm for an LGBTQIA plus child or teenager, leaving them with no one and no place to go.
Speaker BAs we all know and have talked about many, many times, the rates for suicide and suicide attempts are significantly higher for LGBTQIA adolescents, teens and young adults than they are for their straight cisgender peers.
Speaker BHaving even one safe person or safe place for LGBTQIA children or teens literally saves lives.
Speaker BRemember that being an ally is both a noun and a verb.
Speaker BEducation and shifting take time.
Speaker BYou will make mistakes and those around you will make mistakes.
Speaker BBut it is far, far better to make those mistakes and keep moving forward than to not try at all.
Speaker BOur kids and the LGBTQIA community need us.
Speaker BThank you so much for being here today and listening in.
Speaker BIf you would like more information about my LGBTQIA Language workshop, click on the link in the show notes and I will make sure that you get on the list.
Speaker BUntil next time, thanks so much for joining Heather today.
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