Hey, welcome to episode 1016 of the School

of Podcasting. If you're new to the show every year, the

last episode, I ask you,

the dear listener, to share, if you could only pick one,

what's your favorite podcast for this year

and then tell us why. So the teacher

in me really wants to hear the why, so we can all learn together.

Hey, people, enjoy this type of content and then

tell us a little bit about you. And so

when I look at my stats in Apple podcasts and I look at the

completion rates, this particular episode does not do well,

to the point where I thought, am I going to do another one of those?

And I am. But you're going to hear I'm going to cut this up

into different sections because there's going to be a learning

part and. And a discovering part. So with that,

welcome to episode 1015. What's your favorite

podcast 2025 edition. Hit it, ladies.

The School of Podcasting with Dave

Jackson. Podcasting since

2005, I am your award winning hall of fame podcast

coach, Dave Jackson. Thanking you so much for tuning in.

If you're new to the show, this is where I help you plan, launch and

grow your podcast. My website is

schoolofpodcasting.com and today we are going

to learn why people listen to podcasts. What makes you tune in?

Because we don't just want to be good, we want to be someone's

favorite. And so today, here are the people

that sent in their answers. Good morning, Dave. Scott Johnson

here.

This is Kim Newlove. Hey, Dave, it's Ralph. This is Timothy, Chemo,

Brian, and of. Course, all of their shows will be mentioned later

and all the links will be out@schoolofpodcasting.com

1016. And so let's get to the

question, what's your favorite show and why? We're going

to go back to Scott Johnson from what was that like? My favorite podcast for

this year is one that I've been listening to actually for a few years now,

but not many people know about it. It's called Nudge.

That's N U D G E. The website for the show is

nudgepodcast.com and the tagline is

behavioral science simplified. All right, I don't want to interrupt

Scott, but I got to tell you, that's a cool name and that's a cool

tagline. And this is why I do this episode. I'm like, I might have

to check that out. Continue on, Scott. It's a show about the

psychology behind marketing, why we

as humans do what we do. And. And a lot of times they

have some really great insights. All right, I'm sorry, Scott, from what

was that like, dot com. I'm definitely checking out this show when I'm done. Like,

they had a show recently about how companies experiment

with sense hacking, and one of the examples

they give was Coca Cola. Back in 2011, Coca Cola

tried something. They introduced a new version of their can of soda,

which, you know, is traditionally red. They came out with a can that

was white. And the feedback they got was that

customers hated the taste of the Coca Cola that was in these

new white cans. But the amazing thing is that the product

inside those cans was the exact same drink that they

sold in the regular red cans. But that change in

color somehow caused people to not like the way the drink

tasted. And in that same episode, they covered the other human

senses. They talked about the reason behind why some

tennis players grunt loudly when they hit the ball

and why cars smell different when they're brand new

and how a tablecloth can alter our taste

and why some stores play certain music that

changes what we buy because of what we're hearing. I've always

been fascinated by the human mind and this show. It just

brings on lots of examples and stories and also expert

guests who explain these things. It's given me

some great insights that I've actually implemented. Again, the show

is called Nudge Behavioral Science Simplified.

And the website is nudgepodcast.com

now. That makes total sense because when I listen to that, that is information

that I haven't heard anyplace else. So it's very unique coming from

Scott, who does a show called what was that? Like? Where you hear

stories that you're like, holy cow. And we're going to hear about

Scott Show a little later. But again, links out@schoolofpodcasting.com

10 16. But can you see where that's

not just your typical kind of show? Very cool. Thank you so much,

Scott. Next up, he's only got one name because he only needs one

name. York from welcome to Earth Stories. What's your favorite show?

That would be no Agenda earlier on

when I started listening to it because it was recommended

by. By a podcaster or maybe by you or somebody.

I didn't like it initially, and I said

like, what is this? And then I listened to

it again because there was something there that stayed with

me. And that's how you could tell if you

enjoy a podcast, does that stay with you? Does it have

staying power and it did. I think

originally I didn't like it because I wasn't really sure of the

format. I mean, it's, it's a long show, it's three

hours long or more. There's a lot of clips,

there's a lot of things that they do that

only if you are the initiated, you'll understand what's

going on. I was a newbie to it, so I didn't understand the

jingles, the inside jokes. So keep this in mind that you may be

turning off newbies because they're like, I don't know, I'm not part of the club.

And they tune out. But luckily York stuck around. But once I

started listening to it some more, then it all clicked in. It all

made sense. Also, I enjoy John C.

Dvorak and Adam Curry. Their relationship with

each other. The dynamics is there. It's just

incredible. There's other shows that also

take apart the media because that's what no agenda does.

They try to make sense of it all. There's other shows that do this,

but they do it the best. They do it with humor. So they're

not the only show that's doing this. But they found a different way

to stand out from other shows. When you want

to lower your blood pressure because

listening and watching the corporate

news could definitely bring you down. How Adam

Curry and John C. Dvorak do it, they do it

again with, with some insight, but especially with

humor. On top of that, they don't always see eye to

eye. There's some other shows that I listen to where you

can't tell the host apart because they agree

with every single topic, every single take

of the newscast. They're in constant agreement. And if two people

consistently give the exact same answers, one of you is

redundant. But these two guys, they're not. And they will tell

you they're very honest with each other as well, which, which I

enjoy. Also, they're not afraid to insult

the audience, almost in a tongue in cheek type of way. But

when it comes to donations, it's amazing how people are not

turned away and they still come back to listen to the show. The show

is live. Usually when somebody does a live

podcast, they have 50 people at the most,

maybe 100. I'm not sure I have. I've never done a live show

before, but these guys have over a thousand people

listening to their show twice a week. A thousand.

Now there are some people are going to go, well, it'd be easy if I

was Adam Curry from mtv and the Co inventor of podcasting.

And John C. Dvorak's been a tech writer for years. They both had

audiences before they started. Yes, they did, but. But they

kept their audiences. That's the difference. Don't believe me?

Go listen to the Kathie Lee Gifford podcast. Oh, that's right. Doesn't

exist. They have a very long donation section of their

show that might turn off a lot of people. It does me.

But it has chapters. So you don't have to endure

what feels like a half an hour of people donating.

See the advantages of having chapters. Those that want to stay can

stay, those that don't can click the next little chapter and move on

to the next section of the show. And yes, just because he's my

friend. Podchapters.com it's interesting to see

how beloved this show is that people, not

only do they give two or five or $10,

some people give over $1,000. And this is not

just a one time incident. It happens almost every

show where there's huge donations. If you want to

know how a show could generate income from

their listeners, then I would recommend the show. If

I used CPM advertising for this show,

I would have made somewhere between 30 to $35 last month.

And I think we're going to see more podcasters trying

the premium podcast, you know, Patreon, that kind of thing.

Because, you know, if I get one person to give me five bucks, that would

be the same as getting a thousand downloads. Which one's easier, getting five

bucks or a thousand downloads? The other reason that I like this show is all

the clips, the sound bites that they have, and they have

different jingles as well, different sections of

the show. So when you hear that sound, when you hear that music,

you know that you're in the right place. So overall, the show is

brilliant. I would definitely, definitely recommend it. It's a little

bit long, mind you, if you have three hours to spare.

And also the donation section is long, but it does have

chapters. I think what you will really enjoy the most is

the dynamics between the host. Welcome to Earth Stories

is where you can find York. And again, we're going to hear a whole lot

more about his show. So here we have chemistry between the hosts,

we have jingles that make it entertaining because it's kind of a

serious topic. They're talking about, you know, politics and

things like that. And it's information you can't get anyplace

else. Thank you so much, York. And we're going to throw it back. To

Kim Newlove my choice for 2025 is the

treat Addiction Podcast. You can find

that@wgte.org

this podcast is about addiction disorders. It is hosted

by two doctors. They do a fantastic job and they talk

about all kinds of addiction disorders. Some that I've heard of and some

that I have not. I would call that information that you can't get

every place. Then continue on. Kim. They have talked about things

that I didn't even know that I didn't know. And that's what

I liked most about it. I learned. I also enjoyed

the hosts. They were competent and confident.

Their names are Dr. Majabin Islam and Dr.

Ketley Daniels. And you don't realize it, but Kim is just showing off. Cause she

is a master of pronouncing medical stuff that

always has really long words that you go, yeah, I don't know how to pronounce

that. They knew their stuff. And I really enjoyed this podcast.

Unfortunately, it has pod faded, and I believe that's because

of lack of public funding. There's a lot of PBS

affiliates that are suffering right now, and I believe they're just one of them.

All good things must come to an end, but I am sad that this

one did. Just gonna point out that even if you quit doing your show,

you might want to leave it up because you can impact people long after

you quit doing your show. However, it brought me a lot of Joy for the

24 episodes that they had. And if I were on a, you

know, stuck on a desert island, I think that's what Dave had said. This

would definitely entertain me if I needed something to listen to.

Also, for anybody out there who has a family member or

a friend who has an addiction disorder, there's a lot of hope

in these episodes. Not only do they talk about the problems, they

also talk about the solutions. And this is the new one to my list.

We'll talk about that later. But how does the show make you feel?

Recovery is not only possible, it's probable in a

lot of cases. So listen to this podcast if you

have an interest in addiction disorders. Kim, of course, is

from the Pharmacist Voice and the Perrysburg Podcast. More about that in just

a second. But think about it. We've got cool

hosts with chemistry providing information that you

normally don't get anyplace else. And they make you feel hopeful.

Awesome. Next up, we're going to throw it back to Ralph, better known as the

content creator's accountant. My number one go to

podcast is Daily Devotions for Busy Lives.

It's Put on by another fellow that's in the school of podcasting. And I'm going

to tell you why I like it so much. One of my commitments as of

late is to get back into the word of God first thing in the morning.

And that podcast is the first thing I listen to every single

morning because it helps me stay grounded, it helps me get the right mentality for

the day. So that is my number one go to Podcast of the

day. Ah, great example. Solves a problem.

Ralph's like, hey, I want to kind of give myself a nudge

spiritually. That podcast solves the problem.

Awesome. Next up, we have Tim. I came

up with LA show from Harry

Shear. He's that guy from the

Simpsons and from a certain rock and

roll documentary. That's right. This

is Spinal Tap. Now, he wasn't the guy that said, hey,

my speakers go up to 11, but, you know,

he was in there, and it was a great, great time on the

base. Derek Smalls, he wrote this.

All right, back to Tim, who is a commuter, and he watches a lot

of news, but listen to what he says about Harry's new show.

He does lean left, but

he really gives it to both sides of the political

spectrum, and not only our political system. Talks about

AI and he talks about

other things, environmental things that are happening

around the world. So it's kind of a

new show. It's got some satire in it,

it's got some parody in it, and I really

think it's a nice approach to,

you know, viewing our world and getting our news.

It's a different way of doing it. So, of course, Harry is a

comedian. He was on Saturday Night Live. He's known primarily for

acting, but here again, different format makes you stand out.

Because he does parodies, he does a lot of music

in his show, and it's not along the

lines of Weird Al Yankovic, but it is approaching

that. But just for the production quality of it,

it is, bar none, one of the best

podcasts I've ever listened to. We do live in interesting times,

and sometimes we need some levity to it. Sometimes we need

somebody poking some fun at it to put a giggle into

our lives. So if you're looking for that,

Harry Shearer, the show is the

show for you. More about Tim's show in just a minute.

But if you think about it, information you can't get in many places

by having somebody poke fun at both sides. He's doing it with

humor. So it's a different kind of format, and it's educational,

and he probably makes you think. Thank you so much, Tim.

We'll have links to Tim's show and we'll hear about Tim's shows. He's got

two right now. We're going to toss it back to Ethan. Hello, Dave, this

is Ethan with daily sports history. And for me, my

favorite podcast is the School of Podcasting. Awesome. Can't wait to hear

why. But I'll give you my second favorite, which is actually

called Time Suck, hosted by Dan Cummings.

It is a true crime like podcast. They focus on darker

moments like cults or conspiracy theories or serial killers.

And it's a podcast that's a solo podcast, a narrative podcast. But

what makes it unique is that this is hosted by a standup

comedian who's a pretty successful one, has had specials on

Comedy Central, over a million views on his specials on

YouTube. And he lends that to this way

of in depth narrative storytelling where

he throws in funny voices, unique characters like

a chicken pimp or a demonic puppet,

stuff that makes you laugh and breaks up the darkness

that often is associated with his topics. And it makes it a

unique podcast and someone doing something different with the

genre. So that's my favorite podcast besides the School of

Podcasting, which is my number one show every time it comes out. Thank

you, Tim. I'll let you send me an email and explain why you like the

show. Next up, we got Zoe from Backlook Cinema. The podcast

I wanted to talk about is called Too Many Tabs. All right, let's play

along together. Too Many Tabs. I'm guessing it's

about computer stuff where you have too many tabs open. But for

me, that shows needs a tagline because Too Many Tabs,

I don't know, maybe it's organizational and folders, I don't know. But let's go back

to Zo. Too Many Tabs is hosted by Alex Perlman,

known online as Pearlmania 500, and his

wife, Mrs. Pearlmania, whose identity is

private. And so she only goes by Mrs.

Pearl Mania on the podcast. And I like it because

they're just funny together. It's a comedy history

podcast. Alex Perlman is a professional comedian. I

can listen to him just scream and yell into the microphone for

extended periods of time. He's a comedian that kind of reminds me of

Sam Kinison. That's kind of his style, is screaming about stuff.

And unlike a lot of comedians who have podcasts,

a lot of them are serious. Like

they're doing serious subjects. They have serious

interviews, what have you. But Alex Perlman, he

remains funny, is like, he's committed to providing

comedy and information. So it's true

infotainment. And I love how he

dives into historical subjects. A lot of times

he's doing profiles on historical figures, and

sometimes he do. He does profiles on events.

He can go back and forth in history. Sometimes he'll do something as

recent as something like Gamergate or

Labubu, or he might go earlier back in time and talk about something

that happened in the 1700s, like

Napoleon III or something like in the Wild west,

talking about the Pinkertons. They both like talking about

grifters, con men, and quacks. And they

take turns telling each other stories and by

default, telling us stories. So it's not just witty banter. They

actually have stories. I think that's a key point that. They

do a lot of research on on the Internet. So definitely not just

witty banner off the top of their heads. And the reason that they call it

too many taps is because they open their computer and they

do research and they're opening up a bunch of tabs until it. Until it's just

too many tabs on the computer. So I was right, but I was

actually kind of wrong because I thought it was a computer kind of nerdy tech

show, and it's really a history kind of comedy show. Hmm. So I

really enjoy their chemistry. They're. They have

fun conversations with each other. Alex is loud and boisterous.

Mrs. Pearl Maintenance just has this infectious laugh and

her incredible knowledge about different events

and things. I feel like I learned a lot of

stuff about history and I am entertained

at the same time. Their podcast can be

found@promania500.net

thank you. To everyone who chimed in. Again, everything will be@schoolofpodcasting.com

1016 and you might be wondering, but,

Dave, what is your favorite show? I will tell you what it is.

Yep, you guessed it right after this. The school of

podcasting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm going to

cheat. Instead of giving you one answer, I'm going to give you two and explain

why. Because they're both really good shows. Like York, I love the no

Agenda show. I listen to it every week at like 1.7

speed because it is three hours long. And like York,

I click the skip button. I usually skip over. They

do a segment where it's all community over there. They all work together.

They talk about time, talent, and treasure. That's how you can support the show.

And when they talk about the artwork, I am almost always driving

or doing something I'm not looking at my screen. And so when

they spend five to 10 minutes talking about the artwork

and who made the artwork and sometimes complaining about the artwork, I

don't care. And that's just me. It's opinion, it's okay.

But because I press more fast forward on that show,

I am saying my favorite show, which I press fast

forward less on, is POD News Weekly Review. Now

consider your source. I'm a podcast nerd who loves podcasts.

About podcasting, that's what I listen to almost all the time. And one of

my favorite things about this show, and we could all learn

from this, the chit chat between

Sam and James. And

congratulations to James on going into the podcaster hall of fame. At the

end of the show, as they're wrapping up, they're like, what's new with you,

Sam? What's new with you, James? And you get to get a little glimpse

of what's going on in their life at the end of the show

where the super listeners are still listening and

you can tell it's well prepared. They know where they're going,

they don't always agree, and they give you

insights. Especially Sam and James both have

extensive insights backgrounds. James comes from

doing radio reporting and then jumped into podcasting

in like 2004. I think he made one of the first apps

for podcasts, if I remember right, something in the BBC or UK or

British. And I like James. He likes to poke fun at me.

He did last week because I said a podcast is audio, video

or PDF, and he was like, oh, Dave, PDF. And

he loves the fact that. Well, I don't know if he loves the fact I

need to ask him, but he always likes to point out that my English accent

is horrible. And yes, I'm well aware. But

to me, I listen to James all week on his

POD News Weekly Review. I often read the newsletter. Why? Because he

talks about a story on his podcast that leads me to open the

newsletter. And for me, the POD News week of review is

the extended dance version of all the news that James has given me

during the week. And I love the fact that he

interviewed the CEO from that company that's

making thousands of AI episodes every week.

It's Inception Point AI and without doing it

on purpose, he interviewed the CEO as she

just like kept grabbing the rope and hanging herself

because she started off before she was even on his show, explaining

how anyone who didn't understand her business model were a bunch of Luddites.

Great first impression. So I love the fact that he wasn't afraid to have her

on and gave her a platform, and then she hung herself.

I was really like, oh, wow, I didn't think I liked you. And now I

know I don't like you. So I love that show. I love their

banter. It's educational. It's insights I can't get

from any place else. They're very podcasting 2.0

positive, so they're always keeping up with the latest stuff, especially Sam.

Holy cow. If you sniff a new feature, he will put it in

Trufans. He has an app, if you haven't checked that one out. So that's

my favorite show, and that's why.

And you thought we were done, but no, you said, I'll take Dave for

200. Here's Dave from Walking His Fitness. So

the podcast that I would listen to, if I can only listen to

one, is another podcast about podcasting.

Not because it is more valuable than the school of

podcasting or any other podcast about

podcasting. I would choose to listen to this

one simply because at the moment, I am

fascinated by the journey that this podcaster

is on. Things have been changing

over the past year, and I feel like there's more

change to come. I don't know if there is, but I'm finding

it fascinating, this journey. So the

podcast is Grow the Show with Kevin Schmidlin.

About midway through 2025, Kevin announced

that he was going to be changing the focus of the podcast,

changing the name of the podcast, even changing

his name. Okay, well, this is interesting. I thought

it went from a podcast about helping other

podcasts grow to something

broader, which is helping businesses

use content to market the

business and grow the business and increase sales and all of that.

So the name of the show, as well as the focus went from Grow the

Show to Chief Audience Officer, and it was

no longer hosted by Kevin Schmidlin. It was hosted by Kev

Michael. And he explained why. He said kevin

Schmidlin is his name, but he's always been known as Kev

to his circle of family and friends.

Schmidlin is one of those names. It's hard to remember, hard to pronounce, hard to

spell. Michael's his middle name, so it just made more

sense. Kev Michael, he did the

new show. I listened for a bit, wasn't

as interested in the new focus as I was in the old, but I had

been listening for a few years, so I was just kind of curious. And

then the show goes on hiatus. It had been coming out every week, usually on

Tuesdays, and then it goes on hiatus. One week

passes, no show. Two weeks pass, no show. It might even been three weeks, and

then it reappears as Grow the Show.

Kevin Kev admitted actually, before he

made the change, that one of the reasons, not the only reason, but one of

the reasons, was he was getting a little bored. He was getting a little bored

with Grow the Show and what it had become.

And so he was looking to change things up and find probably a

different path forward. And so when the show reappeared,

the new emphasis was growing podcasts through YouTube

and the Journey. This is the curiosity part of me. The

Journey is like, is this eventually going to be a show that kind of moves

away from audio podcasts to

how to grow a YouTube channel? I'm

fascinated by the Journey, and if I could only listen to one

podcast, that would be the one for that reason,

not because it's my favorite podcast, and it's the one that I would listen

to forever and ever and ever. My favorite podcast is

Walking is Fitness. There you go. Thank you, Dave. And

yes, that shows. I would call that a journey show.

Not so much don't stop believing Journey, but

Journey as where's this going to end up? And that creates one of those

brain gaps where your brain's like, but did he make it? Is

the show going to survive? Is he hating life because he

changed his brand and then changed his brand and then

changed who? We'll see. But, yeah, I like Kev. I've met him

a couple times, and always interesting to hear

his take on podcasting. And since we're

talking about shows that have come back, my buddy Cliff Ravenscraft has

come back as the podcast answer man. And also, if

you're missing the feed from Libsyn that got abruptly

shut down by Libsyn, that's a weird marketing

tactic. Hey, everyone should have a marketing. Everyone should have a

podcast to promote your business except

us. I still. I will say it over, and I don't understand what's going on

over there, but if you miss hearing from Rob Walsh,

you can find him at podcast411. In fact, I was interviewed on that show

recently, and we'll see where Elsie comes up from.

But just keeping you up on some of the shows, because I have a

list at podcasts about podcasting.com

and I need to go over and fix that, because just looking at it,

I can see where there are a bunch of shows, because there are a lot

of podcasts about podcasting, and many of them have

taken an extended hiatus. Shall we say we're going to

take another quick break and when we come back, we can kind of learn about

pitches as we hear all of our panelists today

explain their show right after this.

The school of podcasting. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. So let's get over to everyone who responded

and hear about their show. So we were learning here about

why and if we were to summarize that, it would be

kind of the fact that these were distinctive shows with hard to find

content delivered by engaging hosts with real

chemistry in a well thought out format that solves

a listener problem and leaves them feeling something, whether it's hopeful,

grounded, entertained, or relieved. And here's the fun thing.

I transcribed everything you've listened to so far, threw that

into AI and it spit that out, which was a heck of a lot easier.

What I used to do before I had to do that manually. So

that's a case where I'm like, yep, AI did its job. So let's go back

to Scott from what was that Like? And again, if you want to check out

Scott's website or just look for it in your app, just look for what was

that Like? His episode titles are amazing, and

when you hit play on one of his episodes, he always hooks you in. So

here's Scott talking about what was that like? From what was that like? Dot com.

My show is called what Was that Like? And for each episode I bring on

a guest who's just some regular person, but they've been through something

really unusual, like a plane crash or a mass

shooting or they got attacked by a grizzly bear. They just

come on the show and tell the story of what happened. And I'm always looking

for new guests with stories. So if anyone listening to this has a story like

that and it has to be really unusual, get in touch with

me. You can find my show on any podcast app by searching for

what was that Like? Or on the

website@whatwostatlike.com I love that. Pitch

because he said really unusual to where your brain's like, well,

what does really unusual sound like?

Let's go back to Ethan from Daily Sports History and have him

talk about his show. And if you enjoy sports and or history, Daily

Sports History is a great way for you to relive great moments in sports

history or unique moments you never heard of. Ten minutes a day,

five days a week, come check us out at

dailysportshistory.com thank you, Ethan.

Those unique moments in sports you haven't heard of

DailySportsHistory.com, we're going to throw it back over to

Dave from Walking is Fitness. I'm Dave. I host a

daily 10 minute podcast, walking is Fitness. It is designed to

help listeners find the motivation to get out the door, take the walk, and

even more importantly, to build a consistent,

sustainable, potentially life changing habit

of walking. So every day there's a brand new 10 minute

episode. And to make it fun for those who are listening,

I record the episodes while I'm out walking, as I

am now. So for those who are

listening, it kind of sounds like we're taking a walk together.

Anyhow, the website is walkingisfitness.com Sorry Dave. I have

a noise gate on this channel. So if you're like, I don't hear him walking

outside. Well, you know that nasty noise gate took that out. Let's get it over

to York. It's welcome to Earth Stories. These are sci

fi stories. All the details is on my website

at. Welcome to earthstories.com thank you,

York. Short and sweet. We're going to throw it back to Kim Newlove, who has

not one, but two shows. The first one is called the Pharmacist's

Voice podcast. You can find it at the pharmacists

voice.com we talk about pharmacy topics and

careers. And my other podcast is called the

Perrysburg Podcast. The Perrysburg Podcast is a resource

for the Perrysburg community. We talk about what's in Perrysburg

and why people like to live here. Our website is

perrysburgpodcast.com and happy

podcasting everyone. Thank you, Kim. We're going to toss it back to

the content creators accountant, better known as Ralph Estepp Jr.

I am the content creators Accountant. I just launched a new show. It's all about

those content creators who make money with their podcast and want to keep more

of it. I'm here to help you do that. You can find that @content

creators accountant.com Again, that's content

creators accountant.com thank you, Ralph. He sent in bonus content

that I'll play in a second, but right now this man went all out, basically

sent us a promo. It's Zoe from Backlook

Cinema. Back Look Cinema the podcast.

Hello, my name is Zoe. It's spelled Z O or Z to the O. For

those of you outside of the US Back Lick Cinema, the podcast is where we

take a look back at the movie movies of yesteryear, especially the movies of

the latter half of the 20th century. Let's gather

together, friends, as we consider our favorite actors, directors,

composers and writers and how they craft together these

monuments to our culture. Let's reminisce about what made these

movies special to us. These and those special

moments that live in our memory. Join me

as we learn the the fun facts and the crazy

trivia about our favorite films. So if you're

feeling nostalgic about the movies that we loved from

the days gone by, then head ON over to

www.backlitcinema.com.

Thank you, Zoe. See, he's got something he can lean on there,

and that is nostalgia, which can be very powerful.

Also, in just a second, we're going to do a mailbag. I've never

had a mailbag segment, but we're going to do that right after the bonus content

from the content creators accountant Ralph. And I'll tell you my

second one as well, just because you didn't ask for two, but I'm going to

give you two anyway. I love the School of Podcasting. School of

Podcasting is my go to thing for a couple of years now

because it's just a cornucopia of all kinds of

excellent content. All of us helping to improve our trade

and what we're doing. Ralph, you're making me blush, buddy. Thank you so

much for those kind words. Next up,

yes, right, the mailbag. And this one comes

from the none other than Rocky Thomas.

She's the chief strategy officer of Sound Stack

and really like a super sharp mind. I love Rocky because

she's, she's fun and sarcastic and tells it like

it is. So she said, she pointed out, she said, dave, love the,

you know your episode, and went to donate.

And she goes, you got no donations on your website. There's nothing in

the show notes. And I was like, you know what? So I sent her a

link and she sent me some cash. Thank you so much for that, Rocky.

And this is something I'm going to be doing in the episode notes now. So

if you got value from the show, and this is

I'm using the buy me a coffee service because, like, why not

until I find something better. It's easy. And if you don't want to be

a member of the school of podcasting, but you want to say thanks, Dave, you

can do that now.

So Rocky was commenting on the last episode where it was

titled who's Peeing in the Podcasting Pool? And I'm naming names.

And I kind of went off on how I just really didn't understand Steve Goldstein

and Jay and their report about podcasting on

YouTube. And no, I'm not doing another 45 minute rant. I want to report

on this and I'm going to share a Story called the

Parable of the Blind man and the Elephant. A group of blind

men heard that a strange animal called an elephant had been brought

to the town. But none of them were aware of its shape and

form. So out of curiosity, they said, we must inspect

and know it by touch of which we are capable, because,

again, they're blind. So they sought it out, and when they found

it, they groped about it. Boy, that's a strong word,

groped. The first person whose hands

landed on the trunk said, this being is like a thick snake.

For another whose hand reached out to its ear, it seemed kind of

like a fan. As for another person whose hand was

on its leg, he said, the elephant is a pillar, like a tree trunk.

The blind man who placed his hand upon its side said, the

elephant is like a wall. Another who felt its tail

described it as a rope. And the last felt its tusk,

stating that the elephant is that which is hard, smooth, like a

spear. And so here's the thing. They all

were right. They're also blind. Which is one of the things I kind of

pointing like, hey, are we blind to some of this stuff? But I had a

nice zoom call with Steve Goldstein, I've known him for a while, and just said,

hey, I really disagree. This whole podcasting is fluid thing.

And you gotta remember, I'm kind of a technical guy.

So I'm the guy that's like, hey, it can be audio, video, or yes,

it could be a PDF. I did have people go, you can't see PDF.

I'm here to tell you, like, in 2007, there was a company that put

all their owner manuals out as PDF via

podcast. Because back then there were these things called blog readers,

and it's here to tell you. And also, I thought it was funny

because the one thing that really tipped me off was the fact that

Steven said a newsletter was a podcast. Well,

technically, it could if you put it out as a PDF. It's weird, I'm here

to tell you, but it's there in the spec. But

Steve is an old rear radio guy, right? He comes from

radio. He's now teaching at nyu and he's teaching

podcasting. And he's surrounded by Gen Z people,

right? And these people think podcasting

is on YouTube now because of my background, I'm

like, well, we need to teach them that they're wrong. But when you're surrounded

by everybody going, YouTube is a podcast, like Steve is,

you might then report, hey, from my chair,

YouTube is a podcast. And again, the teacher, me goes well, then we need

to update these students. But I now understand

why he is saying what he is saying. And likewise, the people

over at Sounds Profitable. They work with advertisers,

so does Oxford Road, and they're going to have a different

view. Am I still somewhat frustrated that I go, yeah, but

here's the definition, the actual definition. And

yeah, but here's the thing. I think I might put a thing on my website

where, you know, you've ever been in a plant where it's like, we've had 72

days without an accident. I might put a sign on my website. We've had 10

days without Dave complaining about YouTube not being a podcast.

But I now, because we had a dialogue.

Do you remember these? When you didn't try to cancel everyone, you actually heard

the other person's side. We had a dialogue. And I kind of get where he's

coming from, and I think we should do more of that. But

I now understand when somebody says something, I'm like, oh, they

must have a different point of view. And I will be the guy that will

continue to say, no RSS feed, no podcast, but

that's it. Just want to give you an update on that again, if you want

to check it out. Schoolofpodcasting.com 10:15 and also

thanks to everyone. I started off with something goofy. I made kind of a Christmas

skit, and there was a part of me that's going, that's a little out there,

Dave. And a lot of people said, wow, that was really creative. And it made

me laugh. And so there you go, entertaining while I'm trying to

educate. And if you're ready for some more education, then come

Visit me at schoolofpodcasting.com Use the coupon code

LISTENER. That's L, I, S, T, E, N, E, R. And for those of you

that are still here, you may or may not have noticed it. I didn't

do this pitch at the beginning. I said, you my website, but I didn't give

you a coupon because I stepped out of my shoes and said, if I was

coaching somebody, wouldn't you say, why are you pitching at the beginning of

the show? You haven't given them any value. And I went, yeah, so I'm not

going to do that anymore. I'll give you my website all day long. But the

whole pitch and monthly quarterly thing, yeah, that's here at the end, which is

what you're listening to now. And who am I kidding? You've already skipped out at

the end. But thank you so much and

have a safe and happy new year. We got a lot of really cool things

coming up in 2026 that I'm working on and I'm not at liberty to talk

about yet, but I'm working on some new courses for the School of

Podcasting. And. And if you are looking to start a podcast

in 2026, the School of Podcasting is the place

to get educated by an educator who's been doing

this for 20 years. So until next week, take care.

God bless. Classes dismissed.

If you like the show, please share it with a friend.

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When we come back, we're gonna hear kind of we're gonna learn

about. Ah, crap. Here's Todd. Here's Todd.

Who the hell is Todd? Hey. A little post show.

I used the dialogue enhance plugin

to kind of help shape everybody's files so

they sounded the same and actually dynamically adjusts the eq,

which saves me a ton of time of kind of trying to make everybody sound

the same. I also use the Schoep's omnichannel,

which is a eq. It's a

compressor and a noise gate, which is why Dave's walking

didn't show up, because I was noise gating it out. And also I

just realized that I did the mailbag and never said hey, if

you'd like to send me a message, go to schoolofpodcasting.com

contact because if I'm going to promote that, I should probably tell you how

you can drop me a message and maybe you'll hear your question or

your comment right here. I'm always looking for feedback.

And I also didn't tell you about my show, which I kind of don't need

to because, you know, you're listening to it. Remember the old

Palmolive commercial? Hey, Madge, you're soaking in it.

But if you're looking for something else to listen to and maybe

like Dave, you want a 10 minute walk show, check out

podcastconsultant.com the show is called

your podcast consultant because, you know, I want to be your

podcast consultant. And those shows are never longer than nine minutes and often they

are shorter. It's one tip. Here's why you should do it. Here's how

to do it. It's all there. Podcastconsultant.com

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