1 00:00:10,382 --> 00:00:17,705 from the Gable Media Podcast Network and presented by Lines. 2 00:00:17,906 --> 00:00:23,498 This is Spaces, the podcast where we make sense of the spaces that shape society. 3 00:00:23,498 --> 00:00:26,930 I'm your host, Demetrius Lynch. 4 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,793 Hello, thanks for coming back. 5 00:00:31,793 --> 00:00:34,135 And if you're new here, welcome. 6 00:00:34,877 --> 00:00:43,936 This is episode 206, where I discuss one of the biggest mistakes homeowners make, not actually understanding. 7 00:00:47,660 --> 00:00:57,066 This is episode 206, where I discuss one of the biggest mistakes homeowners make, not actually understanding what kind of project they're doing. 8 00:01:03,179 --> 00:01:04,002 Not 9 00:01:05,770 --> 00:01:09,002 not actually understanding what kind of project. 10 00:01:13,940 --> 00:01:17,713 not understanding what kind of project they're actually doing. 11 00:01:18,214 --> 00:01:27,861 But before we get into it, a quick reminder that you can find all of this information and more in my digital download called Before You Build. 12 00:01:27,922 --> 00:01:40,071 It's a strategic, pre-designed framework to help you avoid costly mistakes in common projects, kitchens, ADUs, additions, and small commercial tenant improvements. 13 00:01:40,232 --> 00:01:43,464 In it, you'll learn how to define your project scope, 14 00:01:43,660 --> 00:01:56,128 what construction projects actually cost in Southern California, how to assemble the right team, what project timelines to expect, and the most common and costly mistakes to avoid. 15 00:02:00,366 --> 00:02:07,255 You can find it now at lines.studio slash store or follow the link in the show notes to check it out. 16 00:02:07,817 --> 00:02:10,666 Now, as I mentioned, one of the biggest mistakes. 17 00:02:11,061 --> 00:02:14,816 Now, as I mentioned, one of the biggest mistakes homeowners make. 18 00:02:19,116 --> 00:02:24,945 Now, as I mentioned, one of the biggest mistakes homeowners make happens. 19 00:02:28,172 --> 00:02:37,879 Now, as I mentioned, one of the biggest mistakes homeowners make happens before they ever hire a contractor, submit plans or even define a budget. 20 00:02:38,121 --> 00:02:39,001 It's. 21 00:02:39,424 --> 00:02:41,166 It's not actually. 22 00:02:48,608 --> 00:02:52,099 it's not understanding what kind of project they're doing. 23 00:02:52,599 --> 00:03:00,682 Now that might sound outrageous and a simple thing to understand, but there are so many nuances in the process of construction. 24 00:03:00,682 --> 00:03:12,385 This is actually quite common and it has massive impact on your budget, your timeline, the professionals you'll need, permitting requirements, and ultimately whether your project 25 00:03:12,385 --> 00:03:15,186 feels manageable or chaotic. 26 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:24,092 A renovation is not the same thing as a remodel. 27 00:03:24,092 --> 00:03:27,174 A remodel is not the same thing as an addition. 28 00:03:27,174 --> 00:03:31,556 And an addition is definitely not the same thing as rebuilding. 29 00:03:31,857 --> 00:03:38,881 But homeowners, and honestly, some people in the industry, tend to use these words interchangeably. 30 00:03:39,101 --> 00:03:43,664 And that lack of clarity is where projects start to drift off course. 31 00:03:44,124 --> 00:03:47,190 After more than 20 years working in architecture, 32 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:55,234 I found that one of the most important things you can do at the beginning of a project is correctly identifying your scope. 33 00:03:55,635 --> 00:04:04,839 Not just what do I want, but what category of project am I actually entering into? 34 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:16,726 It's important because each level of intervention introduces a different level of complexity, different permitting requirements, different costs, and different risks. 35 00:04:17,484 --> 00:04:29,249 And the problem is that many homeowners begin with a mental image from Pinterest, Instagram, or HGTV without understanding the structural, regulatory, or financial 36 00:04:29,249 --> 00:04:32,060 implications underneath that image. 37 00:04:32,321 --> 00:04:44,546 You may think I'm just updating my kitchen, but if that kitchen update includes removing walls, relocating plumbing, upgrading electrical, or changing the structure, 38 00:04:44,994 --> 00:04:48,596 you may no longer be dealing with a simple renovation. 39 00:04:48,857 --> 00:04:54,781 And once your project crosses certain thresholds, the entire process changes. 40 00:04:55,281 --> 00:05:01,725 That's why understanding your scope early is one of the most important forms of cost control. 41 00:05:01,846 --> 00:05:07,930 So let's break down the major project categories because this is where clarity starts. 42 00:05:09,836 --> 00:05:11,026 Renovation. 43 00:05:11,026 --> 00:05:14,670 A renovation is the least invasive category. 44 00:05:14,751 --> 00:05:26,522 This typically means replacing finishes, repainting, updating fixtures, replacing flooring, or refreshing a space without changing how it fundamentally functions. 45 00:05:30,318 --> 00:05:37,880 Think new countertops, new tile, new lighting fixtures, replacing cabinets in the same location. 46 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:50,024 Generally speaking, renovations involve fewer unknowns, lower or no permitting requirements, and a smaller team. 47 00:05:50,504 --> 00:05:58,176 In many cases, a good contractor can successfully execute this type of work without a full architectural team. 48 00:05:59,010 --> 00:06:02,392 without a full architectural team or process. 49 00:06:03,653 --> 00:06:09,156 Now that doesn't mean renovations are cheap, especially in Southern California. 50 00:06:09,236 --> 00:06:17,681 But compared to other project types, they tend to involve less coordination, less engineering, and fewer regulatory triggers. 51 00:06:18,602 --> 00:06:19,662 Remodel. 52 00:06:19,662 --> 00:06:24,104 A remodel is where things start becoming more complex. 53 00:06:24,185 --> 00:06:26,808 A remodel changes the layout 54 00:06:26,808 --> 00:06:30,460 function, structure, or systems of your building. 55 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:42,346 This is where you begin moving walls, changing room configurations, relocating kitchens or bathrooms, or significantly altering how a space operates. 56 00:06:42,827 --> 00:06:55,500 And this is often where homeowners intentionally underestimate complexity because visually the project may sit, because visually, 57 00:06:55,500 --> 00:07:09,783 the project may still feel small, but technically, it may require structural engineering, electrical upgrades, plumbing redesign, permitting, and deeper code compliance. 58 00:07:09,943 --> 00:07:17,550 For example, removing what seems like just a wall may actually involve load-bearing conditions. 59 00:07:24,150 --> 00:07:25,943 and to quickly explain. 60 00:07:28,854 --> 00:07:36,078 If you follow the, and to quickly explain, you can kind of follow the path of the load. 61 00:07:36,118 --> 00:07:46,724 From the top of your building, it goes down what's a post, the vertical member, down and it eventually crosses a beam, which is the horizontal member. 62 00:07:46,944 --> 00:07:57,600 And at the end or various points of that beam are more posts, those vertical members again, all the way down to your foundation, which is the concrete. 63 00:07:58,144 --> 00:07:59,735 and into the ground. 64 00:08:00,576 --> 00:08:08,803 If you're moving walls around, you're breaking that transfer of the load from the top of your building all the way down to the ground. 65 00:08:08,904 --> 00:08:21,244 So anytime something changes, all of that has to be re-figured out of how to make the load from the top of your building transfer all the way down to the ground. 66 00:08:22,946 --> 00:08:25,161 The second one, beam sizing. 67 00:08:29,194 --> 00:08:40,241 Anytime a beam has to span a certain length, the farther that beam has to go, the deeper it's going to be, the bigger that beam is going to be. 68 00:08:40,402 --> 00:08:51,830 And when that happens, you're starting to fight inches, half an inch, quarter of an inch, 16 of an inch, 16 of an inch to make that beam fit in certain places. 69 00:08:51,830 --> 00:08:57,964 And it adds complexity because then you're blocking the way that you're 70 00:08:58,658 --> 00:09:01,749 Your air conditioning moves through the building, you're blocking. 71 00:09:01,749 --> 00:09:03,494 uh 72 00:09:07,778 --> 00:09:11,760 you're blocking lighting paths and all sorts of other things. 73 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,042 So you have to be conscious of that as well. 74 00:09:15,102 --> 00:09:17,843 Three, foundation implications. 75 00:09:18,324 --> 00:09:31,231 Anytime you're changing that load bearing condition, where those, that load transfers, if you have to add a new post, another vertical member, there has to be, depending on what 76 00:09:31,231 --> 00:09:37,376 your foundation is, if it's a raised floor, for example, where all of the weight 77 00:09:37,376 --> 00:09:48,709 is mostly transferred to the outside, or there's individual concrete pads that a post sits on. 78 00:09:48,769 --> 00:09:58,346 When you change your design and there's a new post location, you then have to add a new concrete base for that post to go into. 79 00:09:58,346 --> 00:10:05,614 And that's going to require you to tear up the floor in order to add that new post. 80 00:10:09,110 --> 00:10:12,877 And number four, lateral seismic considerations. 81 00:10:15,522 --> 00:10:22,964 To understand this, think of yourself wearing rollerblades or roller skates. 82 00:10:23,205 --> 00:10:28,386 When you're standing there, your natural weight can hold you in place. 83 00:10:29,327 --> 00:10:35,288 But if someone tugs you lightly, you'll start to feel a little bit of a movement. 84 00:10:35,288 --> 00:10:40,410 And if they tug you hard, your upper body kind of lunges backwards. 85 00:10:40,994 --> 00:10:43,345 That's kind of what happens during an earthquake. 86 00:10:43,345 --> 00:10:45,875 The ground is literally moving. 87 00:10:45,875 --> 00:10:56,298 So the building has to try to compensate and very old buildings are not designed to compensate that movement the way that newer buildings are. 88 00:10:56,578 --> 00:11:09,562 So if you're changing the building, whether it's an old building, whether it's an older building with no seismic design, 89 00:11:10,528 --> 00:11:26,342 or a slightly older building that has less seismic design, you're gonna have to redesign your building, especially in the area where you're working on, to... 90 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:30,612 to compensate for that movement. 91 00:11:30,612 --> 00:11:40,638 So you're essentially adding brakes to the wheels of your roller skates to prevent that movement as much. 92 00:11:51,234 --> 00:11:59,680 Now, once all that engineering enters the conversation, your project moves into a very different category of coordination. 93 00:11:59,701 --> 00:12:12,490 This is also where architecture becomes more valuable, not simply for aesthetics like most people may believe, but for planning, coordination, code analysis, and risk mitigation. 94 00:12:15,744 --> 00:12:16,875 Additions. 95 00:12:16,875 --> 00:12:21,437 An addition expands the footprint or square footage of your building. 96 00:12:21,437 --> 00:12:29,161 This could mean adding a bedroom, expanding a kitchen, adding a second story, or building new livable space. 97 00:12:29,321 --> 00:12:37,745 And additions are often where homeowners experience their first real exposure to the complexity of building regulations. 98 00:12:41,858 --> 00:12:48,026 Now going back to sort of the analogy, now going back to the structural analogies. 99 00:12:53,654 --> 00:13:01,977 Now, going back to the structural analogies, I like to explain additions as a dog with no tail. 100 00:13:02,478 --> 00:13:10,861 You have this contained unit, your building, that's all designed as it is to withstand that structural movement. 101 00:13:11,262 --> 00:13:21,090 Then you add a tail to that building or dog, you think, imagine that tail starting to wiggle and a dog 102 00:13:21,090 --> 00:13:33,373 when their tail starts to wiggle, their butt wiggles too and their whole body starts to twist because that tail is adding all of this extra movement that their body isn't quite 103 00:13:33,373 --> 00:13:35,034 aligned for. 104 00:13:35,394 --> 00:13:46,297 So when you have an addition, especially depending on how it's designed, it's essentially this tail that's being added onto your building that's not designed for it to be there. 105 00:13:46,297 --> 00:13:50,698 So a structural engineer has to come in to design it. 106 00:13:51,256 --> 00:14:05,035 to tie into your building to withstand any separate movement to basically make it one continuous building so it doesn't seem like two different things moving at two different 107 00:14:05,035 --> 00:14:08,958 paces, at two different directions uh to. 108 00:14:11,256 --> 00:14:13,951 to make it all one sound structure. 109 00:14:18,284 --> 00:14:32,868 Now beyond the structural component, additions can also trigger school fees, soil report requirements, fire sprinkler requirements, parking requirements, utility upgrades, and 110 00:14:32,868 --> 00:14:35,159 energy compliance requirements. 111 00:14:35,159 --> 00:14:37,359 And these thresholds matter. 112 00:14:37,499 --> 00:14:44,821 For example, in some jurisdictions, exceeding a certain square footage may trigger school impact fees. 113 00:14:44,882 --> 00:14:46,786 Adding too many bathrooms 114 00:14:46,786 --> 00:14:49,147 may require sewer upgrades. 115 00:14:49,368 --> 00:14:53,570 Adding too many bedrooms may affect parking requirements. 116 00:14:53,870 --> 00:15:06,097 So what starts is we just want to add some space, can quickly evolve into a much larger system, can quickly evolve into a much larger systems conversation. 117 00:15:06,137 --> 00:15:10,439 And this is where having the right team early becomes critical. 118 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,276 ADUs, accessory dwelling units or ADUs. 119 00:15:15,276 --> 00:15:22,050 deserve their own category because California legislation has dramatically expanded their popularity. 120 00:15:23,051 --> 00:15:37,551 A lot of homeowners think ADUs are simple, fast, or inexpensive, especially because there are a ton of companies now promoting ADUs as a simple solution, prefab units, pre-designed 121 00:15:37,551 --> 00:15:44,876 plan sets, and plans pre-approved by MUNAS and plans pre-approved by MUNAS. 122 00:15:48,332 --> 00:15:51,865 and plans pre-approved by municipalities. 123 00:15:51,965 --> 00:15:57,030 But the reality is ADUs are essentially small homes. 124 00:15:57,030 --> 00:16:05,236 They require structure, plumbing, electrical, HVAC, energy compliance, and often fire department review. 125 00:16:05,477 --> 00:16:11,702 And each project site has its own unique challenges because they're small, many people. 126 00:16:21,646 --> 00:16:25,869 So there's no real easy solution or easy reuse. 127 00:16:30,616 --> 00:16:33,393 So there's no real easy solution. 128 00:16:39,726 --> 00:16:46,106 So there's no real quick solution, easy reuse or pre-made. 129 00:16:56,470 --> 00:17:03,541 or pre-approved way to quickly get to this, or pre-approved way to quickly deliver an ADU. 130 00:17:08,428 --> 00:17:15,045 Because they're small, many people assume they should be cheap, but construction doesn't scale proportionately. 131 00:17:15,045 --> 00:17:28,157 In fact, smaller projects often cost more per square foot because kitchens, bathrooms, permitting, and utility infrastructure still exists regardless of size. 132 00:17:28,258 --> 00:17:32,994 So while ADUs can be incredible opportunities for rental income, 133 00:17:32,994 --> 00:17:38,776 multi-generational living, or flexibility, they are still complex. 134 00:17:39,257 --> 00:17:42,458 They are still complex construction projects. 135 00:17:43,779 --> 00:17:44,939 Rebuilds. 136 00:17:44,939 --> 00:17:48,180 A rebuild is the most extensive category. 137 00:17:48,340 --> 00:17:52,442 This typically involves demolishing most or all of an 138 00:17:54,936 --> 00:17:58,385 This typically involves demolishing most or all of it. 139 00:17:58,385 --> 00:17:59,590 uh 140 00:18:01,538 --> 00:18:13,397 This typically involves demolishing most or all of an existing structure or after a natural disaster, then constructing a new building. 141 00:18:27,328 --> 00:18:34,461 At this point, you are essentially entering new construction territory, even if you're rebuilding like for like. 142 00:18:34,642 --> 00:18:40,924 And I want to take a quick pause here because there's some misconception about. 143 00:18:41,985 --> 00:18:46,167 And I want to take a quick pause here to emphasize a point that. 144 00:18:46,167 --> 00:18:52,430 uh And I want to take a quick pause here to emphasize a recent project that I had. 145 00:18:53,164 --> 00:19:08,102 And I want to take a quick pause to emphasize about a recent project that I had where a homeowner had recently purchased a home and a portion of the building was unpermitted. 146 00:19:08,523 --> 00:19:21,110 They intended to add uh solar panels to their house, but were flagged for that illegal construction, even though it was done by the previous owner or some other previous owner. 147 00:19:21,566 --> 00:19:26,169 they were still on the hook to correct that unpermitted work. 148 00:19:26,390 --> 00:19:32,434 When I came out to visit, that construction was also poorly done and not to code. 149 00:19:32,434 --> 00:19:43,942 So it had to be the most efficient way to do it was to demo the entire thing and rebuild it exactly as it was intended to be, but up to code. 150 00:19:44,483 --> 00:19:49,046 And there was a lot of misunderstanding about 151 00:19:50,530 --> 00:20:03,497 The project costs, because it seemed so simple, it was probably about 40 to 60 square feet, pretty small, but you're rebuilding, you're essentially rebuilding a new structure, 152 00:20:03,497 --> 00:20:04,937 even though it's... 153 00:20:04,937 --> 00:20:06,758 uh 154 00:20:08,310 --> 00:20:19,353 just because you're essentially rebuilding a new structure the correct way up to code structural requirements and all the permits that are involved. 155 00:20:19,353 --> 00:20:24,365 So even though it was a very small portion, this was a rebuild. 156 00:20:24,365 --> 00:20:34,558 So you're kind of building a new area no matter how small it is up to all the current codes and all the fees that come with it. 157 00:20:39,022 --> 00:20:52,849 So both in this small case and in a much more dramatic complete rebuild, that means full permitting, complete design coordination, engineering, zoning analysis, energy compliance, 158 00:20:52,849 --> 00:20:54,669 and extensive review. 159 00:20:54,949 --> 00:21:01,973 And emotionally, this is often where homeowners realize this is much bigger than what we originally thought. 160 00:21:02,213 --> 00:21:04,224 So here's the key takeaway. 161 00:21:09,112 --> 00:21:11,790 So here's the key takeaway from today's episode. 162 00:21:11,790 --> 00:21:14,998 These categories are not just interchangeable. 163 00:21:19,864 --> 00:21:22,677 So here's the key takeaway from today's episode. 164 00:21:22,677 --> 00:21:26,641 These categories are not just interchangeable labels. 165 00:21:26,962 --> 00:21:31,686 They are predictors, complexity, timeline, risk. 166 00:21:32,347 --> 00:21:36,251 Complexity, timeline, risk, and costs. 167 00:21:36,532 --> 00:21:43,008 And the earlier you correctly identify your project type, the better your decisions become. 168 00:21:43,074 --> 00:21:53,022 because once you understand what kind of project I'm actually doing, you can begin aligning the right expectations, the right budget, and the right team. 169 00:21:53,283 --> 00:22:03,151 And honestly, a lot of homeowner frustration comes from treating a remodel like a renovation or treating an addition like a simple small upgrade. 170 00:22:03,712 --> 00:22:06,394 Clarity changes everything. 171 00:22:06,394 --> 00:22:10,998 That's exactly why I included this breakdown in Before You Build. 172 00:22:11,147 --> 00:22:25,050 Because before you think about finishes, before you think about contractors, before you even think about demolition, you need to understand the scope of what you're actually 173 00:22:25,050 --> 00:22:25,940 doing. 174 00:22:28,066 --> 00:22:31,568 you need to understand the scope of what you're actually building. 175 00:22:31,968 --> 00:22:41,984 Inside the guide, I break down project types, cost expectations, team structure, and the most common mistakes homeowners make early on. 176 00:22:46,670 --> 00:22:55,790 So if you're planning a kitchen remodel, an addition, an ADU, or a commercial tenant improvement, I highly recommend starting there. 177 00:22:57,474 --> 00:23:01,055 You can find it at lines.studio slash podcast. 178 00:23:01,055 --> 00:23:06,056 That's L-Y-N-E-S dot studio slash podcast. 179 00:23:06,257 --> 00:23:08,757 Or there's a link in the show notes. 180 00:23:09,377 --> 00:23:16,619 The clearer you are about your project at the beginning, the more confidence you'll have throughout the rest of the process. 181 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:18,330 Thank you for listening. 182 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:20,660 Thank you for listening. 183 00:23:21,421 --> 00:23:23,181 Thank you for listening today. 184 00:23:23,181 --> 00:23:25,122 We'll talk again on the next one. 185 00:23:25,122 --> 00:23:26,062 Thanks.