Welcome to
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User Friendly 2.0 with host Bill Sikkens,
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technology architect.
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And this is User Friendly 2.0.
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Thank you for joining us this week.
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Joining me my co-hosts Gretchen and Bill.
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Welcome to this week's show.
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Hello there. Hello.
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So before we get going
any further on this, I give my pledge
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that the captioning of the show
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different letters.
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And call Gretchen. Gretchen.
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We got a little bit of.
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Yeah, we got a little bit of listener
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And, you know, it's.
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We talk about this on the show
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But we must not just let the AI transcribe
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I guess it actually has
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so anyway,
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on that note, we do
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Now, we've been doing that for a while,
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that, seems to be appreciated
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So, you know, let us know
when something like that happens.
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Sometimes these things do get missed.
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And, we try to do the best we can,
but we're a small staff,
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and at the end of the day, we do rely
a lot on you as our listeners to give us
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that type of information and also
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So that's where all this comes from.
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And on that note, we have an interesting
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And the second segment we are going
to be talking to an expert on.
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I was going to be going into some detail
on how to know what's hype
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and what's real, which is becoming more
and more of an issue.
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These days.
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We're going to be doing a follow up
on our Tech Wednesday from this week
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to talk about some ways
that you can reduce online tracking,
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and these are the ones where you don't
have to be paranoid and go off the grid
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and live in the middle of a forest,
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although I think that might be
the only way to eliminate tracking.
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But there are some things
you can do to minimize it.
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And finally,
after our news and our first segment,
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we are going to be talking about an expo
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in Portland that we had the opportunity
to go see this last week.
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And so got a good show coming up for you.
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And with no further ado,
let's jump into the news.
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What do we have this week?
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All right.
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Star Wars reveals new look at Darth
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Maul's 2026 return.
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Yeah, I thought it look cool.
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He looks fiercer in my opinion.
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So yeah, I think so.
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And that's a cosplay
I wouldn't mind doing either.
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So, you know, it's
kind of good to see this.
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Now I the more haunt
you have on your head, the better, right?
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I guess I like to play in order
to another thing.
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So anyway,
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depending on how difficult they make
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the clothing, I haven't gotten a chance
to really look at it.
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Maybe it looks like
it could be interesting to as cloak
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and stuff is kind of.
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I don't know, it just looks cool.
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It's, Anyway, what this is coming up for
is we're going to see the order
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of Maul return
this year and Maul, shadow Lord
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and, Clone Wars prequel wars,
and they're bringing them back.
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I said yes, yes.
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Just wanted to make sure I thought
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have to bleep out there for a minute,
but no, it's a really
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well you'll have to let us know
what you think of.
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I check out his picture
and you know, obviously this news content
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is always very factual and unbiased.
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Except when I want to get my opinion.
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So in this case I like it.
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But let us know what you think.
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Oh yeah. None of us have any opinions.
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Of course not.
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You know,
not any more than the major news outlets.
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So I'll just. I'll leave it with that.
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And that's my excuse,
and I'm sticking to it.
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Sun releases S4 severe solar radiation
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largest in decades, making northern lights
visible across the world.
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And I finally saw them last night.
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You saw them?
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What time I saw them, yeah, I saw my.
What time?
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I wasn't able to sleep.
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Woke up about 3:00 and was just doing
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It was really quite beautiful too.
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Oh, I missed it.
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I bet it must be 3:00.
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Somebody else said around three as well.
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Yeah, I was around 3 a.m..
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I will add to it that we're in a unique
line here up in Oregon.
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Normally this time of year it's raining
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where it's been sunny, cold,
but sunny in the clear skies.
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So I think that was part of why I was able
to see it, because it wasn't overcast,
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but it was. It was interesting.
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I mean, I see
why do people think that's interesting?
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Make like ancient cultures laugh.
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That was, you know, an act of the gods
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and pretty. But, watch your electronics.
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This definitely causes havoc
with planes, radio transmissions, all
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that kind of stuff.
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Here on the planet, the more detailed,
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more intense, electronic systems
can have some complications.
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But this does affect satellite
communication and that stuff a bit more.
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And I know back, my dad used to be a ham
radio operator.
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Amateur radio operator.
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And when we'd have these solar storms,
he used to have problems with that, too.
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So it does affect electronics,
a little bit more sometimes than others.
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And we're supposed to be getting away
from solar maximum.
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But this is the largest storm,
as it says in, in a very long time.
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I know right back when they first started
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having electronics such as,
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teletype and, or telegraphs, solar storms
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If you ever want to look up
something really interesting,
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to check that out, I think, you know,
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it's it's weird to think,
but it is interesting how much
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our environment around us
does directly affect everything, you know,
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and in ancient times, like, be like,
you were kind of coming into an ancient
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times, you would look at this
and it was a beautiful display in the sky,
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but you didn't.
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Yeah, at least
I don't think the Vikings had, you know,
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digital communication
or quantum computing.
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Maybe they.
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Yeah, I wouldn't put it past them like,
you know, at that
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time, your sons don't work either way.
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And like you say today, it's interesting
to look it up and see
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some of what this has created.
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Security risks and hardware advances
start to matter for investors.
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I'm surprised
that wasn't mattering to them earlier.
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But explain this.
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Yeah, I kind of have to agree with you
on that in the way that headlines work.
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This is specifically
because of the onset of quantum computing
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is what they're focused on here.
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And while I do think it's important
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for security risks,
the matter should have all along,
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and it does, usually after the fact,
unfortunately,
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in a lot of the bigger companies.
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But what they're looking at here
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is we're going to be transitioning
into quantum computing.
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It's here right now.
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It's extremely expensive
and still prototype,
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but that won't be the case forever,
probably even a long time.
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And more than just being kind
of a really unusual,
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pretty chandelier,
these kind of devices are going to
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change
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fundamentally, change
the way that we interact with things.
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Now just go to the internet,
browse websites, that kind of a thing.
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But the ability with a computer like that
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to hack a password
or something is going to be child's play.
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So security, you know, and that type of a
thing, it's not just logging into your,
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you know, account at the grocery store
and ordering food for you or something.
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back end systems that maintain databases
and all these other type of things
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classically are also set up on a username
password combination.
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Now, in recent years, this has become more
and more of a problem.
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So this has been moving, the adoptions
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a lot more on the back end of things
and on the front end of the consumer.
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See, but where we're starting to see
is an encrypted things to be able
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to log on in that kind of stuff.
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Multifactor authentication is a big one
that we all use.
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Now that does help.
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It's not the end all be all of it,
but it's better than not having it.
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So, you know,
as we move in that direction, I think
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probably if I was to make a guess on this
in the next two years, probably less,
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we won't be using passwords anymore
because it will be obsolete.
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It has been for years,
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but it's going to get to a point
now where it's not workable anymore.
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So, you know,
we look at other ways to do that.
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But,
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investors are looking at this because
the technology is getting out the door.
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And like I say, it's
no prototype right now in a lot of ways,
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but it won't be for too much longer
in the potential capability of what
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these things can do.
And they use less energy.
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You know, we've got the problems
with the data centers
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and AI's sucking down the power grids
and that kind of stuff.
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So it's going it's going to change
a lot of that if it's done well.
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But it is going to mean
that we have to change the way that we do
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some of the things that we do online,
if we want to stay secure.
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In good news, Kathleen
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Kennedy's exit interview
as she leaves Lucasfilm.
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Yes, and my own biased opinion too.
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I would have to agree with you
of where you read that headline.
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So okay, to be fair, actually,
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to go back to the beginning of this,
to be fair, Kathleen
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Kennedy has been the CEO of Lucasfilm
since George Lucas sold it to Disney.
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Back in I believe, 2011.
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And there are two schools of thoughts
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that she has been running the company.
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And this is actually a very divisive thing
among some people,
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because there are people that love her.
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And, you know, those people are entitled
to their opinion.
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Again, I'm not editorializing
or giving my opinion here, but,
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you know, even though their opinions
wrong, they're entitled to it.
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I thought maybe they just needed to see
a mental health provider.
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Yeah. So yeah, there you go.
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You know, it's, now that I in all honesty,
she actually has done
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some incredible stuff.
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I mean, if you look at it
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from an investment standpoint,
the films have grossed a lot of money.
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In some case,
I think one of them is the most in history
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or close to it or something like that.
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But was that like Rogue One, a Rogue One?
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No, it wasn't Rogue One,
but Rogue One was definitely a sleeper.
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It did a lot
better than they were expecting.
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Yeah, it was a good movie.
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It was a very good movie, you know?
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So the thing of videos is, it's not like
she's all bad or anything.
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I don't think that,
but it is definitely that, in my opinion,
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she's taken Star Wars in a direction
that would have been different
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from what the founder of Star
Wars would have wanted to do.
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Did you disagree with me on that,
Gretchen?
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No. And, and I think
Dave Filoni being the choice to take over
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is appropriate because it feels like Dave
Filoni understands
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the spirit of the direction
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I don't know, do you guys have real
belief, even from your standpoint?
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Or go ahead and weigh in on this because,
like I say, there's a lot of opinions
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out there, about this.
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I think she had a few good runs,
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but she's also had some pretty bad flops.
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Let's, you know, an acolyte,
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please. We don't want it.
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We have to be radio friendly here.
Anyway.
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Swearwords.
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Now, one thing I will say, if you look.
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Oh, go ahead, Bill.
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But Filoni has definitely.
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And what he has done,
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the works that he has touched
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for him. It is felt like Star Wars.
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We got to see him at Comic-Con
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An amazing person, just is.
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You know, I have the poster.
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Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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And to Kathleen Kennedy credit,
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I think as a producer, she's done
some some good stuff yet.
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Schindler's List, Sixth Sense,
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I mean, these are all films
that are well liked and accepted.
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But she didn't write them.
She produced them now.
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And I think that's the reason
why she was picked,
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because she was a good producer.
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She's not really what
I would call the leader of a franchise.
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Yeah,
I think she's just been producing stuff.
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Yeah.
And that's just word that we all have.
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The things that we excel at
and when you can, you know, focus on that.
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You do a very nice job.
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And she's done
a very nice job in these things.
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She said in her exit interview
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that she's planning to go back
to producing, and I'm looking forward
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to see some of the stuff
that she's going to create.
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I also very much look forward
to the direction of Star Wars.
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It's going to go now
with, Dave Filoni at the helm.
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Me too.
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All right.
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Is the check I got from Amazon a scam?
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At least that's the headline.
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Yeah, this this article is a little bit
kind of out of date right now.
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This came into the news
cycle back at the beginning of January,
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and we were still on our holiday
break at the time,
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which is why we didn't
cover it at that point.
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But it's worth talking about
because we've got a lot of questions
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that have been coming in on this.
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And as we all know, there's a lot of
people out there that try to scam you.
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I mean, you know,
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I'm sorry to have to disclose that,
but it is definitely the case here.
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And you want to be very careful.
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And when you do get a random
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check in the mail, even if it purported
to be from Amazon, it's good to take that
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with some idea of risk and at least check
and see what's going on.
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But yes, these are real.
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And what's happening
is it's part of a settlement,
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between Amazon
and the FTC, the Federal Trade Commission.
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And it goes back to the way
that they were marketing crime,
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and they were doing some stuff
that the allegation was that,
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was a practice to try to trick people
into joining a crime.
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You know,
some of the things like that, making it
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a little bit obscure
is what you're getting.
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Again, those the allegations
that were made and, the Federal Trade
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Commission decided that
that was not a, appropriate thing to do.
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So the settlement includes,
paying this out, class action style,
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which, you know,
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means the people that have been injured by
it will probably get a free,
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you know, fries at McDonald's
or something.
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Is there something that I, I'm not a huge
supporter of class action.
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It seems like
you never really get anything from them.
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But yeah, positive side of these type
of things is, these big companies I like.
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There's one that happened
about two years ago with Apple
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that was a settlement
for Syria, eavesdropping on people.
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And I think the settlement on that was
it was a couple of bucks maybe.
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I don't know, I could be wrong, but it,
was it I do remember when the whole CD
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class action thing happened.
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Chuck I got was for $0.96, I think.
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But what ends up happening is
it does make the issue public.
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And while, you know, $95 million at Apple
is, you know, an accounting error,
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really, it does actually get them to
maybe make some fundamental changes.
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Unfortunately, in the technology world,
it seems like when these things
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come out, actually get adjudicated,
they're long on to something else
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and they're just,
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you know, trying to close the door
on whatever happened in the past.
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But,
but yeah, but to that end, and I digress
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a little bit
with these other things, the check itself.
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Israel, if you have any concerns about a
check with your bank for your deposit it.
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And the other thing of it
is, is when using checks and other
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obsolete methods of payment like that,
you do want to be a little bit careful,
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because if you do get a fake check
or a, you know, check
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without money behind bounced check,
all that kind of a thing,
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even as the recipient that can cost you
money because you can have overdraft fees
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bounced,
check these, all that kind of thing.
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So it is definitely something
to be concerned about.
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And if you ever sell something
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and they give you a check for more money
than what you sold it for, just don't
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just just don't. It doesn't matter
what it is that is a huge red flag.
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And that's a big scam
also that goes along with these things.
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You deposit the check.
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Gretchen, I almost had this happen
with a car we sold.
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We talked about it last year
when it happened,
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but you go and deposit the check.
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It's going to be probably a couple
of months before it actually comes back.
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And by that time,
what you sold is long gone.
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The extra money that the seller once back
to help with you know, whatever that they
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usually come up with is long gone
and you're left holding the bag.
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So there's nothing wrong
with being careful about these things.
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And you know what?
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That car is now safely in Japan
in a museum.
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So yeah. Yes. Right where it belongs.
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New York City mayoral
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inauguration dance flipper
zero and Raspberry Pi devices.
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Yeah, this is an interesting thing.
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So when you go to these events,
there's a list and one that
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very well should be there of things
you can't bring in giant backpacks
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or obviously
any kind of weapons or anything like that,
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you know.
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So at the end of the day,
it does make sense.
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You want to keep things secure.
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And unfortunately,
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we live in a world where if you didn't do
that, you'd have a lot of problems.
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But what I thought was interesting about
this is naming these devices by brand.
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So a flipper zero is a officially a device
that you would get
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to test your network and make sure it's
secure and test other resources.
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You would have to make sure
they are secure.
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But I have heard some rumors
that this has been used for hack
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and I don't know, but I guess someone
somewhere used it for the wrong reason.
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That coupled with the fact that your,
electronic pad that's built into
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the thing gets mad at you and leaves
if you don't hack enough.
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I mean, you tested not work enough.
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So, you know, and then a Raspberry
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Pi as a reference
to a small kind of computer
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that is, does a lot of different things
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and are used as microcontrollers
and that kind of thing.
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So for whatever reason, you can't have
either one of those devices.
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Now there's a million clones
of both of them that do the same type
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of thing.
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There are other devices
like a Raspberry Pi, especially.
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There's there's I wouldn't say knock offs,
but there's generic versions of it
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and there are knock offs and all of them
work, or,
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you know, that you would bring
and have set up inevitably
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working the same way,
but not actually be a Raspberry Pi.
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You know, this would be something along
the line of saying that,
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you can't bring
in a certain brand of knife,
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but if it's not that brand now, it's
okay to bring it out.
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It's the exact same thing.
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You know, you can't bring a Tonto knife
into the event.
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Well, this one's not a Tonto.
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Oh, it's a different problem.
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Yeah. Help yourself.
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Now you want to sell on the side?
No, it's it is a little weird.
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And I think what happened is, is
they were concerned about hacking devices,
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which I don't know how valid of a concern
that needs to be at an event like this.
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But even if it is, you would have to ban
the device class for this to make sense.
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Not a brand, you know, so, yeah.
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And then your security people need to
all know what a hacking device looks like.
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And, is that really something
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your your regular security
people are going to know?
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I would say probably not.
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And when you have a large quantity
of people, are you going to be able.
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And these are also small devices too.
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So you're going to have to
go through stuff and try to find it.
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It's, you know,
same footprint as a cell phone really,
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you know, so it's not not something
that would be even that easy to do.
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But, if anybody listening knows
more specifically why
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this was done or why the brands, please
go to the website user friendly Dot show
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and let us know in the comments,
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because I'd love to know
if there's something I'm missing here,
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but it just seemed quite odd
to handle it in this way.
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So anyway,
all right, well, to change topics,
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we had an opportunity to do something
that we haven't done before
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and that was to go to a Comic-Con
or we've done that before,
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but a fan expo, Comic-Con
now, a little bit of history on this.
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We used to go to Wizard World,
and these were events held
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across the country in different places.
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In fact, down in Reno, Bill,
you had one there for a while
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when we were still there
that we went to great event,
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you know, love
Comic-Con and all that type.
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Work.
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And yeah,
yeah, Sacramento was another one.
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Oh yeah yeah that's right
Sacramento you know.
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So by the way, don't
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walk in the first suit
like a Wookie suit in Sacramento in July.
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Just just don't ask me how I know.
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But anyway so
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even if you're going to the Comic-Con,
get a cab, get an Uber or something
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with air conditioning,
or you're going to be in an ambulance
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anyway, outside of that, though,
we got to Syfy on Expo.
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Now, the connection here is that Fan Expo
took over was a world a few years ago.
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Long story.
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You can go online
if you want to dig into the reasons
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as to why,
but one company acquired the other
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and since then, just life circumstances
and everything else.
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We have not had a chance to get the fan
actually to see what it is.
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And we got there
and I enjoyed the afternoon.
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But Gretchen, I don't know if we
and if you disagree with me,
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it was a very different experience
than what we would have had.
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It was our world.
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And my it was a
it was a very different experience.
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I think the layout of,
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the event was very different
from what I recall from Wizard World.
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Wizard world seemed like
they had the stage
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in the middle of everything,
so it kind of pulled everybody
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into seeing this big happy location.
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And it was off to the side
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on this one in the dark kind of.
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And, That's good.
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Yeah.
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I found it by accident. You
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know.
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Yeah.
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So, there were some things that,
it just felt very different.
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And I. Yeah.
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So the amount of amount of energy at night
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and some of these may have nothing to do
with the production of the event.
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I don't know, but, the storage stars.
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Yeah, that's students
there was hardly any,
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costumed people roaming around.
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And you didn't see
any of the ultra fabulous
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unless they were waiting somewhere
hiding for the costume contest.
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I'm not even sure they had one.
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But, I didn't see that
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costume that just, like, knocked
you off your feet.
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And I remember
seeing lots of those at these events.
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And so I wonder, you know, is it
just because people are slowly recovering
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from Covid still,
or has something changed?
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You know, it's hard to say.
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Or the time of year, maybe because I know
when Rose city, we've seen costumes.
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I mean, that's felt pretty good.
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And and again, as far as like
I hadn't thought about that.
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I don't know that they didn't have one.
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I just didn't look for one.
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And, you know, maybe that
that's all it is.
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But one of the other things
that I would love to see there
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again is the sports,
Wizard World had a focus on that set up.
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You can come in and game
and do all of these kind of things.
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Now, one thing I will say on this,
and I know this is going to be a shock.
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Anybody that knows me,
I although that was cool, is
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the Portland Retro Gaming
Expo had a room set up.
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And what this is, is
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they hold a convention
in Portland in the fall
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that is all retro video games, cabinets,
consoles, all that kind of stuff.
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Obviously, you know,
I have no interest in that at all.
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But yeah, sarcasm sign, right?
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I just don't look at my garage.
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I'm trying to somehow figure out
how to squeeze another cabinet in there.
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And, so far the laws of physics
are against me, but I'll win anyway. The
467
00:22:24,810 --> 00:22:25,110
the thing
468
00:22:25,110 --> 00:22:27,779
of videos, though, they had a pretty cool
set up in there later pinball machine
469
00:22:27,779 --> 00:22:31,750
and, you know, in some cabinets and people
you could talk to you and even had a,
470
00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:37,122
Nintendo set up on an, a very 1970s
console TV like you would see.
471
00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,223
And yeah, I saw that.
472
00:22:38,223 --> 00:22:41,993
Yeah, that was was kind of cool, complete
with a couch to sit in
473
00:22:41,993 --> 00:22:43,795
while you were playing it
and everything like that.
474
00:22:43,795 --> 00:22:46,798
So, you know, there were some things
like that that were pretty cool.
475
00:22:46,798 --> 00:22:48,700
And it just, you know, it's
476
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:52,471
just interesting to see the difference
in the look and feel of these things
477
00:22:52,471 --> 00:22:57,042
from event promoter and time of year
and all the other stuff that goes into it.
478
00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:58,910
And, you know, we've produced
479
00:22:58,910 --> 00:23:02,180
special events ourselves in the past,
not recently, but in the past.
480
00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:05,250
And these things are difficult to do
and even be able
481
00:23:05,250 --> 00:23:08,820
to pull off a show,
whatever it is, is amazing.
482
00:23:08,820 --> 00:23:11,790
It takes a lot of time, talent
and treasure to do it.
483
00:23:12,157 --> 00:23:14,626
And it's just, you know,
but the people that are involved
484
00:23:14,626 --> 00:23:19,064
and the way where I can't say too much on
that because the Oregon Convention Center
485
00:23:19,064 --> 00:23:23,034
is the same place that Rose city was, but
they were very different from each other.
486
00:23:23,034 --> 00:23:26,204
And this is very different from, yeah,
you know, from Wizard World.
487
00:23:26,204 --> 00:23:27,939
So anyway, good event.
488
00:23:27,939 --> 00:23:29,441
We had fun for the day
489
00:23:29,441 --> 00:23:32,744
and looked forward to next year
and looking forward to things.
490
00:23:32,744 --> 00:23:36,081
We're about to take our break to the back
in the second segment and talk
491
00:23:36,081 --> 00:23:40,585
AI and talk about how you can minimize
how many other people can track
492
00:23:40,585 --> 00:23:41,553
where you are.
493
00:23:41,553 --> 00:23:42,287
This is user friendly.
494
00:23:42,287 --> 00:23:43,922
2.0 we'll be back after the break.
495
00:23:43,922 --> 00:23:46,892
You see here he's from the future.
496
00:23:46,958 --> 00:23:50,061
He's got a really big computer
497
00:23:50,629 --> 00:23:53,732
and he uses it every day.
498
00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:57,302
And he uses it uses it in every way.
499
00:23:57,569 --> 00:24:02,874
What do you before you know, I'm
not that sure because he uses you.
500
00:24:03,608 --> 00:24:06,144
Welcome back. This is user friendly 2.0.
501
00:24:06,144 --> 00:24:08,313
Check out our website at User Friendly
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502
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505
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In user friendly dot show.
506
00:24:21,893 --> 00:24:23,595
All right,
so as promised in the beginning,
507
00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:27,566
we're going to be asking the expert here
in just a moment about AI
508
00:24:28,066 --> 00:24:30,402
act and hype and all the rest of that.
509
00:24:30,402 --> 00:24:32,971
And instead of me
trying to give a bad introduction,
510
00:24:32,971 --> 00:24:36,174
let's just let the man himself give you
his expertise.
511
00:24:36,708 --> 00:24:39,211
Let's go to our interview.
512
00:24:39,211 --> 00:24:41,680
Joining us now, been a data and AI leader,
513
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,650
PhD in the same field, and author
of an upcoming book, the AI Decision Map.
514
00:24:45,650 --> 00:24:47,919
Welcome to user friendly.
515
00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:49,955
Thanks for having me.
516
00:24:49,955 --> 00:24:52,958
So, let's go ahead and dive right in here.
517
00:24:54,459 --> 00:24:57,462
Getting
just kind of on the top of all of this.
518
00:24:58,363 --> 00:25:00,532
Let's go ahead and talk AI,
because, I mean, that's what
519
00:25:00,532 --> 00:25:02,467
we're going to be doing here.
And I'm going to start here.
520
00:25:02,467 --> 00:25:07,472
Why don't you, separate the real value
from the hype is I actually in a bubble?
521
00:25:07,472 --> 00:25:09,274
This question comes up a lot.
522
00:25:09,274 --> 00:25:11,910
Or is this just a normal
cycle of new technology?
523
00:25:13,078 --> 00:25:14,412
Yeah, absolutely.
524
00:25:14,412 --> 00:25:16,848
So I think there there is both.
525
00:25:16,848 --> 00:25:21,353
I mean,
we see, a lot of chat about AI, right?
526
00:25:21,353 --> 00:25:25,290
So I think it's both,
there is a bubble and also a hype.
527
00:25:26,157 --> 00:25:28,660
But also there is real value.
528
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:29,394
Right.
529
00:25:29,394 --> 00:25:34,366
So there's, there's real value,
from AI that, we can derive,
530
00:25:34,833 --> 00:25:39,704
but there is so much, expectations
that it's all inflated right now.
531
00:25:40,472 --> 00:25:43,575
We saw this during the dotcom
bubble right?
532
00:25:44,075 --> 00:25:48,446
Many companies,
you know, failed during the dotcom bubble.
533
00:25:48,446 --> 00:25:52,817
But there are real value,
that we got from the.com area as well.
534
00:25:53,251 --> 00:25:55,353
So I think that's what
we're going to see here.
535
00:25:55,353 --> 00:25:58,657
The bubble really doesn't kill all value,
536
00:25:58,657 --> 00:26:02,494
but it just exposes companies
that are doing AI for the sake of it.
537
00:26:03,295 --> 00:26:04,429
Okay.
538
00:26:04,429 --> 00:26:07,632
So why do so many AI projects
539
00:26:07,632 --> 00:26:10,802
fail even when companies
invest a lot of money?
540
00:26:12,370 --> 00:26:13,972
Yeah, I think
541
00:26:13,972 --> 00:26:18,410
like we said, there's so much
talk about AI, there's so much pressure
542
00:26:18,410 --> 00:26:21,413
on leaders about using AI
543
00:26:21,580 --> 00:26:24,282
that that they're all trying different
things.
544
00:26:24,282 --> 00:26:27,285
But, when it comes to the crux of it
545
00:26:27,352 --> 00:26:31,990
and AI adoption is human,
it's not necessarily too technical
546
00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:36,628
because people, don't trust the data,
people don't trust the tool.
547
00:26:36,628 --> 00:26:39,531
People don't see how it helps them.
548
00:26:39,531 --> 00:26:42,534
These are the cases where, I project fail.
549
00:26:42,934 --> 00:26:45,570
You can have great algorithms
and still fail
550
00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:48,573
if people don't feel confident
in using them.
551
00:26:49,507 --> 00:26:52,844
So, you know, generative
AI as it is now is still very a new
552
00:26:52,844 --> 00:26:54,446
thing is in the last couple of years,
553
00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:56,581
and a lot of people
are just getting on board now.
554
00:26:56,581 --> 00:26:59,851
What is the biggest mistake
people make when they start using AI?
555
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,489
Yeah, I think one of the big mistakes
556
00:27:04,489 --> 00:27:09,461
is people ask themselves,
where can I use AI?
557
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:13,298
How can I use AI versus
coming from a problem standpoint?
558
00:27:13,298 --> 00:27:16,301
Hey, what are the things
I'm trying to solve?
559
00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:20,672
And then understanding
is AI the right solution
560
00:27:20,672 --> 00:27:23,675
for the problem
or the right tool for the problem?
561
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:27,646
Where does I actually work well today?
562
00:27:27,646 --> 00:27:30,882
In every life, every day life and work.
563
00:27:30,882 --> 00:27:33,618
So where does it work best?
564
00:27:33,618 --> 00:27:36,354
Yeah, I think I works best
565
00:27:36,354 --> 00:27:39,524
when there's a lot of mental overhead.
566
00:27:39,524 --> 00:27:41,760
In, in a task. Right.
567
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,896
So summarizing long documents, drafting
568
00:27:44,896 --> 00:27:47,899
first versions of a book, for example,
569
00:27:48,099 --> 00:27:50,502
or organizing information, taking notes.
570
00:27:50,502 --> 00:27:54,572
All of these things can help people have a
571
00:27:55,306 --> 00:27:59,210
when when there's a lot of context
to remember and think fast.
572
00:28:00,645 --> 00:28:02,347
But it is important to note
573
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:06,384
that we can use AI to synthesize
574
00:28:06,384 --> 00:28:09,387
all this information, but not necessarily
575
00:28:09,421 --> 00:28:12,390
think for us.
576
00:28:12,390 --> 00:28:14,726
You know, as technology marches along,
577
00:28:14,726 --> 00:28:17,729
I'm going to throw this out at you
because as people get into this,
578
00:28:17,729 --> 00:28:18,596
what are some of the ways
579
00:28:18,596 --> 00:28:22,200
regular people can use AI without feeling
just totally overwhelmed?
580
00:28:23,401 --> 00:28:25,103
Yeah, a 100%.
581
00:28:25,103 --> 00:28:28,173
So I think, the trick is to start small,
582
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,310
you know,
use it as a smart assistant for yourself.
583
00:28:32,777 --> 00:28:34,846
But not as a decision maker.
584
00:28:34,846 --> 00:28:37,849
Ask it to summarize, brainstorm,
585
00:28:38,183 --> 00:28:41,653
explain something in plain language,
and you can, you know,
586
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,890
you can ask it to explain 100 times,
and it won't get mad at you.
587
00:28:46,424 --> 00:28:48,393
Right? So I think, you know,
you don't need to master.
588
00:28:48,393 --> 00:28:51,429
I just use it where it saves you time.
589
00:28:51,429 --> 00:28:54,566
That way you can get slowly started
and then,
590
00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:57,569
you know, get a go from there.
591
00:28:59,104 --> 00:29:01,673
So why do people resist new
592
00:29:01,673 --> 00:29:04,743
technology
even when it's supposed to help them?
593
00:29:05,910 --> 00:29:06,244
Yeah.
594
00:29:06,244 --> 00:29:10,148
I think people resist technology
because it feels risky.
595
00:29:10,148 --> 00:29:13,318
People worry about losing relevance.
Right.
596
00:29:13,318 --> 00:29:17,789
So people worry about making mistakes
or looking uninformed.
597
00:29:18,490 --> 00:29:21,960
So resistance,
usually isn't about the technology itself.
598
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:25,930
It's about the fear and uncertainty
that the technology
599
00:29:25,930 --> 00:29:28,933
brings together.
600
00:29:32,103 --> 00:29:35,106
Along those lines, how important is trust,
601
00:29:36,007 --> 00:29:38,810
you know, where does that lead in here?
602
00:29:38,810 --> 00:29:41,112
Yeah. I believe trust is everything.
603
00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:46,785
If people don't trust, the tool
or the outputs, they won't use the system.
604
00:29:47,051 --> 00:29:49,687
A lot of times,
we've seen this in the corporate world.
605
00:29:49,687 --> 00:29:52,724
Nobody comes in and say,
606
00:29:52,724 --> 00:29:56,161
nobody comes in and says, hey,
your tool is bad.
607
00:29:56,528 --> 00:29:58,229
But they just stop using it, right?
608
00:29:58,229 --> 00:30:01,132
So if they don't trust
it, you have to look for,
609
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,868
the silent signals.
610
00:30:03,868 --> 00:30:09,574
People just stop using it or people just,
you don't get loud feedback.
611
00:30:09,607 --> 00:30:12,410
That's
kind of what I've learned over the years.
612
00:30:12,410 --> 00:30:12,777
Okay.
613
00:30:12,777 --> 00:30:16,848
So what should leaders or organizations
focus on before
614
00:30:16,981 --> 00:30:21,052
rolling AI tools out to to people to use?
615
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:22,887
Yeah.
616
00:30:22,887 --> 00:30:27,258
I think, the word that comes to
my mind is clarity.
617
00:30:27,592 --> 00:30:27,826
Right.
618
00:30:27,826 --> 00:30:32,130
So we have to understand,
come from a standpoint
619
00:30:32,130 --> 00:30:37,268
of what problems are resolving
and is AI the right tool for it?
620
00:30:38,036 --> 00:30:41,973
You know, asking questions about,
what decisions will this improve?
621
00:30:41,973 --> 00:30:43,007
Who will use it?
622
00:30:43,007 --> 00:30:45,109
What does success look like?
623
00:30:45,109 --> 00:30:49,080
These questions help you,
624
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,083
pick the right project,
set you up for success.
625
00:30:53,351 --> 00:30:55,587
What skills do
people really need to stay relevant
626
00:30:55,587 --> 00:30:58,823
with AI in an AI powered world?
627
00:30:58,823 --> 00:30:59,791
Let's just call it that.
628
00:31:01,326 --> 00:31:01,626
Yeah.
629
00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:04,629
I think, we was already
630
00:31:04,629 --> 00:31:07,966
seeing AI democratizing
a lot of technical things.
631
00:31:07,966 --> 00:31:08,233
Right.
632
00:31:08,233 --> 00:31:12,003
So coding, writing, all,
all these different things
633
00:31:12,103 --> 00:31:15,073
that are very deeply technical
634
00:31:15,073 --> 00:31:18,443
has been democratized
or is being democratized by AI.
635
00:31:18,977 --> 00:31:21,846
But I think the key skills
that we all need to
636
00:31:21,846 --> 00:31:25,016
focus on
is really the human skills, right?
637
00:31:25,016 --> 00:31:26,751
The soft skills,
638
00:31:26,751 --> 00:31:29,187
they're going to be more critical
than ever,
639
00:31:29,187 --> 00:31:32,190
you know,
the the way you build relationships, the
640
00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:36,895
the way you build consensus,
being creative and just being yourself.
641
00:31:37,061 --> 00:31:39,898
I think, also knowing
642
00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:42,901
how to ask good questions matter now
643
00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:47,372
because technology,
will take care of how to do it.
644
00:31:47,372 --> 00:31:51,009
But you have to ask the right questions
and get that clarity.
645
00:31:51,976 --> 00:31:54,746
That's going to be a good skill to have.
646
00:31:54,746 --> 00:31:57,382
So what should listeners not worry
647
00:31:57,382 --> 00:32:00,385
about when it comes to AI?
648
00:32:01,286 --> 00:32:04,289
Yeah,
I think, we don't need to worry about
649
00:32:04,923 --> 00:32:09,794
how these tools are built
or becoming very technical with AI, right?
650
00:32:09,794 --> 00:32:14,032
Like I said, it's democratizing a lot
of things, which is great for the world.
651
00:32:14,632 --> 00:32:18,303
You don't need to use every new tool.
652
00:32:18,303 --> 00:32:22,440
I know there's a new tool
popping up every day, a new best
653
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,244
tool called, open AI ChatGPT.
654
00:32:27,445 --> 00:32:29,314
I don't worry about all of it.
655
00:32:29,314 --> 00:32:33,418
So pick
the one that you like and just, use it.
656
00:32:33,751 --> 00:32:37,322
We don't need to panic, I think I rewards,
657
00:32:37,322 --> 00:32:41,192
thoughtful, steady learning
658
00:32:41,192 --> 00:32:46,597
and urgency is more of a the bubble factor
that we're talking about.
659
00:32:46,597 --> 00:32:47,298
We talk about.
660
00:32:47,298 --> 00:32:50,468
But really use use
661
00:32:50,468 --> 00:32:53,471
any AI tool, and, it'll help you out.
662
00:32:54,105 --> 00:32:55,873
But let's dive into something here.
663
00:32:55,873 --> 00:32:58,242
You're the author of the book
the AI Decision Map.
664
00:32:58,242 --> 00:33:02,080
And, now it's either been released
or has just been released.
665
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,148
Can you tell us a little bit about what
666
00:33:04,148 --> 00:33:07,151
inspired you to write your book
and tell us a little bit about your book?
667
00:33:07,352 --> 00:33:08,820
Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
668
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:11,823
We're we're planning to release it
in January,
669
00:33:12,590 --> 00:33:16,260
mid to late January,
just in the new year.
670
00:33:17,161 --> 00:33:20,631
The, the inspiration for the book was,
671
00:33:20,765 --> 00:33:25,370
what I saw in, the corporate world
and, and, academia.
672
00:33:25,403 --> 00:33:25,670
Right.
673
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:30,475
So every business leader is under
so much pressure to do something with AI.
674
00:33:31,309 --> 00:33:34,846
But like we discussed,
majority of AI projects fail.
675
00:33:35,546 --> 00:33:38,649
I wrote and data and AI for decades
676
00:33:38,649 --> 00:33:41,652
and did my PhD in technology and adoption.
677
00:33:42,053 --> 00:33:44,856
So it's, this was the right time
678
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:47,859
for me to do something
or share my thoughts.
679
00:33:47,925 --> 00:33:52,730
So I've gathered my thoughts
into a framework so leaders can go
680
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:53,731
beyond the hype.
681
00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:57,001
Beat the bubble,
and deliver real value with AI.
682
00:33:58,803 --> 00:33:59,470
So if
683
00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:02,640
you wanted to make sure that our listeners
walked away
684
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,544
with one special
thought or when something to hold on to,
685
00:34:06,811 --> 00:34:11,315
would you want them to remember
from what a concerning AI?
686
00:34:12,550 --> 00:34:13,117
Yeah.
687
00:34:13,117 --> 00:34:14,152
Yeah.
688
00:34:14,152 --> 00:34:18,022
Again, don't worry
about all the different AI tools.
689
00:34:18,022 --> 00:34:23,461
Fear of missing out is a real thing,
and companies want us to feel that way.
690
00:34:23,461 --> 00:34:29,834
But I think just choosing a specific,
tool that you like and sticking it,
691
00:34:30,034 --> 00:34:35,173
sticking with it to, help you with
your day to day would be super helpful.
692
00:34:35,173 --> 00:34:39,510
And for companies,
don't jump into every project
693
00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:44,816
that you can think of as,
you know, ask yourself,
694
00:34:44,816 --> 00:34:49,720
what kind of problems you're solving
and what kind of risks, you know,
695
00:34:49,720 --> 00:34:53,791
that puts your company into,
and then and then go from there.
696
00:34:58,162 --> 00:35:01,065
So if your book coming right up here,
tell our listeners, how do they find it?
697
00:35:01,065 --> 00:35:02,934
How they find you is at Amazon.
698
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,937
What's the best way to Westwood
to get to it?
699
00:35:06,037 --> 00:35:06,270
Yeah.
700
00:35:06,270 --> 00:35:08,973
We're going to have, my book on Amazon.
701
00:35:08,973 --> 00:35:11,409
It's called the AI Decision Map.
702
00:35:11,409 --> 00:35:16,280
We're going to be launching in Amazon
and, a few bookstores around the country.
703
00:35:16,814 --> 00:35:20,685
So yeah, check, check out, my LinkedIn,
704
00:35:20,718 --> 00:35:25,623
then many, on LinkedIn
and YouTube data democracy.
705
00:35:25,623 --> 00:35:27,425
That's my podcast.
706
00:35:27,425 --> 00:35:28,159
All right. That's great.
707
00:35:28,159 --> 00:35:29,393
We'll go ahead and get that link up
708
00:35:29,393 --> 00:35:33,464
on our social media
on, blue Sky, LinkedIn and Facebook.
709
00:35:33,998 --> 00:35:36,801
And I think we're doing Instagram
now, at least that's what I've heard.
710
00:35:36,801 --> 00:35:38,503
So if it's there,
then we'll do it there too
711
00:35:40,438 --> 00:35:40,738
then.
712
00:35:40,738 --> 00:35:41,906
Thank you so much for joining us.
713
00:35:41,906 --> 00:35:44,909
Is there anything else
you'd like us to know before we end today?
714
00:35:45,776 --> 00:35:46,711
Thank you so much, William.
715
00:35:46,711 --> 00:35:48,045
This was wonderful.
716
00:35:48,045 --> 00:35:49,080
Yeah.
717
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,285
I think AI is here to stay, and I think,
718
00:35:54,552 --> 00:35:57,688
human skills are going to be more critical
than ever going forward.
719
00:35:58,656 --> 00:36:00,491
I agree 100%.
720
00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:02,493
Me too.
721
00:36:02,493 --> 00:36:04,128
You know, I have a feeling
we're probably going to talk
722
00:36:04,128 --> 00:36:07,131
AI on our show again someday, too.
723
00:36:07,331 --> 00:36:10,334
Yeah.
724
00:36:10,501 --> 00:36:12,937
You know,
you almost could have a show podcast
725
00:36:12,937 --> 00:36:14,872
just about I'm
sure these things actually existed
726
00:36:14,872 --> 00:36:15,506
that are just
727
00:36:15,506 --> 00:36:18,910
AI and just what's new and what's changing
and all that kind of stuff.
728
00:36:18,910 --> 00:36:22,780
So but it's something that's here
to stay and,
729
00:36:22,780 --> 00:36:24,782
definitely something
that's good to learn about.
730
00:36:24,782 --> 00:36:28,085
And on the other note of what
we're going to be covering today,
731
00:36:28,085 --> 00:36:31,923
we talked about
all of the different devices
732
00:36:31,923 --> 00:36:35,293
and other things
that are set to track you right now.
733
00:36:35,293 --> 00:36:36,060
Right now, I'm
734
00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:39,897
pretty sure your toaster is probably
preparing a report for somebody on you.
735
00:36:40,531 --> 00:36:42,667
And the thing of it
is, is, okay, maybe not.
736
00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:45,803
But anyway, Breville,
the Bravia wouldn't do that.
737
00:36:46,404 --> 00:36:47,071
Of course not.
738
00:36:47,071 --> 00:36:50,608
You know,
I guess that's its lawful good, right?
739
00:36:50,608 --> 00:36:51,309
So, you know.
740
00:36:54,111 --> 00:36:55,046
So anyway,
741
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,915
we wanted to talk about some steps
though, on things
742
00:36:57,915 --> 00:37:02,420
that you can do to help
make your life a little less trackable.
743
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:06,224
Now, anybody that uses the internet,
there's the potential for this.
744
00:37:06,224 --> 00:37:10,795
And because so much stuff
is designed to take information,
745
00:37:11,762 --> 00:37:14,732
it is very difficult to get away from it
completely.
746
00:37:14,732 --> 00:37:17,735
And again, the motivation
here in a lot of cases is money.
747
00:37:18,002 --> 00:37:21,005
These companies get this information
and sell it
748
00:37:21,272 --> 00:37:22,740
and get a lot of money for selling.
749
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:26,077
In some cases, it's looking like they're
making more than the actual product.
750
00:37:26,177 --> 00:37:27,578
They're selling.
751
00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:31,315
So it's a thing to think about
if you're using software,
752
00:37:31,349 --> 00:37:34,352
hardware or whatever
the case may be that's cheap or free.
753
00:37:34,352 --> 00:37:35,453
It's not really.
754
00:37:35,453 --> 00:37:39,090
It's just what you're spending is you,
because it's taking information
755
00:37:39,090 --> 00:37:42,960
or taking something else
and doing something with it.
756
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,964
And all of these some things
come down to figuring out how you can
757
00:37:47,064 --> 00:37:50,701
a figure out what something is, and b
758
00:37:50,701 --> 00:37:53,671
think about how you want it to be handled.
759
00:37:53,771 --> 00:37:56,774
And first and foremost, it's
to think about your phone.
760
00:37:57,408 --> 00:37:59,710
Because most of us carry
761
00:37:59,710 --> 00:38:02,713
a phone now, just the normal thing to do
762
00:38:03,047 --> 00:38:06,083
and that phone knows where you are.
763
00:38:06,083 --> 00:38:08,452
It has DPS built in to it,
764
00:38:08,452 --> 00:38:12,290
and the functionality of these things
is something we use a lot.
765
00:38:12,290 --> 00:38:13,724
CarPlay and,
766
00:38:14,792 --> 00:38:17,061
you know,
Android Auto and these things for mapping
767
00:38:17,061 --> 00:38:20,064
and all that kind of stuff
that are not only up to date
768
00:38:20,097 --> 00:38:22,833
but can show you in real time
where there's traffic
769
00:38:22,833 --> 00:38:24,602
and, you know, all the different types
of things like that.
770
00:38:24,602 --> 00:38:27,571
But in order to do that,
it knows right where you are.
771
00:38:27,605 --> 00:38:29,740
And in the cases of these things,
772
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:32,743
what you want to do is look at
773
00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:36,547
app permissions and think about what
you're doing when you're installing it.
774
00:38:36,580 --> 00:38:39,550
So first of all, the set up
of both devices, you can go in and,
775
00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:42,153
you know, tell it not to track or clear it
or that type of thing,
776
00:38:42,153 --> 00:38:43,821
which is good to do.
777
00:38:43,821 --> 00:38:47,858
But if you're installing an app
that, wants to run your phone
778
00:38:47,858 --> 00:38:53,064
as a flashlight and it wants permission
to your microphone, they probably say no.
779
00:38:53,064 --> 00:38:56,834
And don't just click accept all the time
because that can cause problems.
780
00:38:56,834 --> 00:38:59,070
You know, you do want to think it through.
It's easy to do that.
781
00:38:59,070 --> 00:39:00,871
Yeah. And
782
00:39:02,273 --> 00:39:03,040
while using the
783
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,043
app, if it wants a location,
it's probably a good choice.
784
00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:09,347
So you'll get, three choices
when it wants location information usually
785
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,682
where it's all the time.
786
00:39:11,682 --> 00:39:13,751
Only when you're using that app,
whatever the app is
787
00:39:13,751 --> 00:39:15,786
that needs the information or not at all.
788
00:39:15,786 --> 00:39:18,422
And if you leave it on
789
00:39:18,422 --> 00:39:21,392
just when you're using the app,
you're good to go.
790
00:39:21,392 --> 00:39:23,627
Because if you're not using the app, it
doesn't really need to know where you are.
791
00:39:23,627 --> 00:39:25,396
I mean, conceivably,
I don't know if that's maybe
792
00:39:25,396 --> 00:39:28,466
just oversimplifying it,
but that's one thing where you do
793
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:32,403
want to look at this
and make sure that your controls
794
00:39:32,403 --> 00:39:35,373
are set down
and be intentional with location.
795
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,477
And the reason for
this is with enough information from that,
796
00:39:39,777 --> 00:39:42,480
it tells the story of your life,
where you work, where you go to school,
797
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,349
where you do your grocery shopping,
who your friends are
798
00:39:45,349 --> 00:39:48,419
because you're monitoring
all the different places you're going.
799
00:39:49,487 --> 00:39:51,021
And that type of a
800
00:39:51,021 --> 00:39:54,091
thing is something to consider.
801
00:39:54,091 --> 00:39:57,094
You don't need the location
history saved forever.
802
00:39:57,361 --> 00:39:59,797
So number one,
to know that your device is saving it.
803
00:39:59,797 --> 00:40:02,800
And on your Google or app settings,
you can turn it off
804
00:40:03,167 --> 00:40:05,803
or at the very least,
clear it out once in a while,
805
00:40:05,803 --> 00:40:09,206
you know, so it doesn't go back to the
beginning of time, which they want to do.
806
00:40:09,206 --> 00:40:12,209
And again, it comes down to money.
807
00:40:12,376 --> 00:40:14,378
They sell this stuff for money.
808
00:40:14,378 --> 00:40:15,746
So I have a question.
809
00:40:15,746 --> 00:40:20,684
I don't like it
when they want to access my contacts.
810
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,155
They don't need to know who I have
contact with.
811
00:40:24,155 --> 00:40:25,890
Yeah, yeah.
812
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:27,691
And, you know,
one of the one of the big ones
813
00:40:27,691 --> 00:40:30,795
that came out from this,
is the game Angry Birds.
814
00:40:31,562 --> 00:40:34,832
And it was and still is,
from my understanding, a popular game.
815
00:40:34,832 --> 00:40:36,300
But they came to Angry Birds, too,
816
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:39,303
and all of a sudden it was asking
for these kind of permissions.
817
00:40:39,537 --> 00:40:41,639
And it's like, well,
why do they need that?
818
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:43,207
Well,
they want to know who your friends are
819
00:40:43,207 --> 00:40:45,910
so they can, you know,
about playing their game or whatever.
820
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:48,212
But it's, you know, that type of a thing.
821
00:40:48,212 --> 00:40:50,581
And that caused a lot of
problems and actually caused
822
00:40:51,816 --> 00:40:52,616
something that
823
00:40:52,616 --> 00:40:55,619
was very much a worldwide sensation.
824
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:57,721
Still played a lot,
but not like it once was.
825
00:40:57,721 --> 00:41:00,724
And because people don't want
to open themselves up to these things.
826
00:41:01,759 --> 00:41:06,497
And the other thing is to think about
stuff that calls itself smart devices.
827
00:41:07,331 --> 00:41:09,333
Most of us have these things
in one way or another.
828
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:11,302
Smart home and all the different things.
829
00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:13,971
But most of these like data
830
00:41:13,971 --> 00:41:16,941
and the default settings,
is going to be to collect more data
831
00:41:16,941 --> 00:41:18,809
than they need to do
whatever it is they're doing.
832
00:41:18,809 --> 00:41:22,313
So you go into your television
or other smart device, you're
833
00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:25,916
looking for an option that's labeled
as something like improve our services,
834
00:41:26,517 --> 00:41:29,520
personalization, diagnostics,
those type of things,
835
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:32,957
and say something like,
you have a check box, send diagnostic data
836
00:41:32,957 --> 00:41:34,758
back to wherever it is
that they send it to you.
837
00:41:34,758 --> 00:41:37,761
Well, that's information
that they probably don't need.
838
00:41:38,462 --> 00:41:40,831
Certainly not to make the act work.
839
00:41:40,831 --> 00:41:44,168
You can usually turn those things off
and you won't lose anything important.
840
00:41:44,602 --> 00:41:45,803
And they do try to guilt you into it.
841
00:41:45,803 --> 00:41:47,538
We're just doing this to make our product
better.
842
00:41:47,538 --> 00:41:50,541
So, you know, we know what works
and what doesn't.
843
00:41:50,841 --> 00:41:53,711
And for some reason, to do that,
we need to know who all your friends are
844
00:41:53,711 --> 00:41:55,479
and your blood type,
you know, kind of thing.
845
00:41:55,479 --> 00:41:57,481
It's not necessary.
846
00:41:57,481 --> 00:42:00,317
Not necessary to, go down with that.
847
00:42:01,352 --> 00:42:02,453
And the other thing of it is,
848
00:42:02,453 --> 00:42:05,456
is to reduce your exposure
to data brokers.
849
00:42:06,557 --> 00:42:09,426
And these are services
that will come up again,
850
00:42:09,426 --> 00:42:11,795
you know, with the idea of,
collecting information.
851
00:42:11,795 --> 00:42:16,367
Unfortunately, a lot of these don't ask,
you know, so the more reputable ones do.
852
00:42:16,767 --> 00:42:19,036
But if you've ever googled your name
853
00:42:19,036 --> 00:42:22,473
and all this information shows up
and a lot of times it's very accurate,
854
00:42:22,473 --> 00:42:25,876
including home address, phone numbers
and not just that, the addresses you've
855
00:42:25,876 --> 00:42:30,214
had for the past 15 years or something
and email addresses and all that.
856
00:42:30,214 --> 00:42:33,150
That's where this is coming through
is data brokers.
857
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:34,318
Now, the more reputable ones
858
00:42:34,318 --> 00:42:38,088
you can go on and there's a system
where you can ask to be removed.
859
00:42:38,155 --> 00:42:39,490
There's ways to do that.
860
00:42:39,490 --> 00:42:43,827
California is spearheading a new law
that's gonna allow a very easy
861
00:42:43,827 --> 00:42:44,295
way to do that.
862
00:42:44,295 --> 00:42:46,797
We're going to be talking about that
in a future show,
863
00:42:46,797 --> 00:42:49,633
that you can go in
and get this stuff removed.
864
00:42:49,633 --> 00:42:52,469
And I think we're going
to be seeing more legislation come out.
865
00:42:52,469 --> 00:42:54,271
But the other problem that this is created
866
00:42:54,271 --> 00:42:57,374
is there's no guarantee
that that information is correct either.
867
00:42:58,075 --> 00:43:01,612
So if somehow it's got the idea
that you've, you know, been convicted
868
00:43:01,612 --> 00:43:05,149
of a felony and escape from prison
and you go apply for a job
869
00:43:05,149 --> 00:43:09,486
and the people that are vetting
you find that, that could be a bad thing.
870
00:43:09,687 --> 00:43:10,788
In fact, it would be,
871
00:43:10,788 --> 00:43:14,058
because you might not get the job
and you might never know why you didn't.
872
00:43:14,858 --> 00:43:18,362
Yeah, because they never tell you
why you don't get the job.
873
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:20,731
Very rarely.
874
00:43:20,731 --> 00:43:21,999
Very rarely. I've had that.
875
00:43:21,999 --> 00:43:24,301
But it's very much
the exception to the rule.
876
00:43:24,301 --> 00:43:27,538
And it's too bad because it would help
you build if you could know.
877
00:43:27,571 --> 00:43:29,473
You know what they didn't like.
878
00:43:29,473 --> 00:43:30,841
But that's a whole nother topic.
879
00:43:30,841 --> 00:43:32,242
It's just to be aware.
880
00:43:32,242 --> 00:43:34,011
Google yourself. See what,
see what comes up.
881
00:43:34,011 --> 00:43:35,412
You might be surprised.
882
00:43:35,412 --> 00:43:36,146
Just be prepared.
883
00:43:36,146 --> 00:43:38,682
It might not be a pleasant surprise.
884
00:43:38,682 --> 00:43:41,986
The other thing of videos
is public and workspaces,
885
00:43:42,286 --> 00:43:45,289
and you want to just assume
886
00:43:45,656 --> 00:43:48,659
in this day
and age that you're being recorded.
887
00:43:48,792 --> 00:43:51,061
There are cameras everywhere,
888
00:43:51,061 --> 00:43:53,597
front door of your house,
you know, walking down the street.
889
00:43:53,597 --> 00:43:56,900
We've talked about block cameras
and we've all seen the cameras on the,
890
00:43:57,267 --> 00:44:00,938
you know, red lights and things like that
that are keeping conditions safe
891
00:44:00,938 --> 00:44:01,839
and whatnot.
892
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,341
You can go on most state websites and view
those things.
893
00:44:04,341 --> 00:44:04,908
They are public.
894
00:44:04,908 --> 00:44:07,778
They're not trying to hide them
or anything, but they are out there.
895
00:44:07,778 --> 00:44:10,080
And the other thing of it
is, is also just assume
896
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,282
that your license plates
are being scanned as you're driving.
897
00:44:13,517 --> 00:44:16,987
So whether that's by some of the people
we've talked about in the past
898
00:44:16,987 --> 00:44:20,124
or private companies that just drive
around, do that, collect it and sell it,
899
00:44:20,791 --> 00:44:24,528
or you're going through a photo
radar light or something of that nature.
900
00:44:24,528 --> 00:44:28,832
It's going to scan your license plate
and just be prepared and act accordingly.
901
00:44:29,199 --> 00:44:33,203
We just don't have the privacy
that we once did on these things.
902
00:44:34,138 --> 00:44:38,042
So question becomes to that,
what can you do?
903
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:41,111
Well, vigilance is one thing.
904
00:44:41,111 --> 00:44:42,846
If you really want to eliminate tracking
905
00:44:42,846 --> 00:44:45,215
wherever you can go through
and turn it off,
906
00:44:45,215 --> 00:44:48,652
shut it down, don't return diagnostic data
and be aware of the
907
00:44:48,652 --> 00:44:52,022
terms and conditions of things that you're
accepting when you install software.
908
00:44:52,456 --> 00:44:53,290
Or I guess it's apps.
909
00:44:53,290 --> 00:44:56,126
Now, we used to call that software
in the olden days
910
00:44:56,126 --> 00:44:59,797
and know what is going
where to the best of your ability.
911
00:44:59,797 --> 00:45:00,397
And don't just
912
00:45:02,066 --> 00:45:03,367
allow on autopilot.
913
00:45:03,367 --> 00:45:04,201
A lot of people do.
914
00:45:04,201 --> 00:45:07,438
We're busy and, you know, it's like, well,
that doesn't work.
915
00:45:07,438 --> 00:45:08,939
We can't use that app.
916
00:45:08,939 --> 00:45:10,107
One advantage right now
917
00:45:10,107 --> 00:45:13,577
is that there's probably going
to be an alternative in most cases.
918
00:45:14,478 --> 00:45:17,681
And how badly do you need to do that?
919
00:45:17,681 --> 00:45:20,851
And if you do need to use it badly,
at least know what's happening
920
00:45:20,851 --> 00:45:25,155
to your information and be aware that it's
tracking or doing whatever it is doing.
921
00:45:25,155 --> 00:45:26,623
You know,
922
00:45:26,623 --> 00:45:30,661
and the other thing of it is,
and this is a big one,
923
00:45:31,795 --> 00:45:36,633
keep personal stuff off work devices
and work stuff off personal devices.
924
00:45:36,767 --> 00:45:40,671
A big reason for this,
especially on the former, is most work
925
00:45:40,671 --> 00:45:45,943
devices can be audited and again,
not from any standpoint of legal advice
926
00:45:45,943 --> 00:45:49,413
and check this out with a competent lawyer
if you needed to get that information.
927
00:45:49,913 --> 00:45:52,549
But my understanding of it is,
is that in a lot of cases, work
928
00:45:52,549 --> 00:45:56,253
devices can be searched and that doesn't
limit it to just your company
929
00:45:56,620 --> 00:45:57,421
seeing what you're doing.
930
00:45:57,421 --> 00:46:00,324
They can be subpoenaed for information,
that kind of thing.
931
00:46:00,324 --> 00:46:03,327
And if the information's out there,
it's probably fair game.
932
00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:08,532
And just like things that if you ask
I ChatGPT or something
933
00:46:08,565 --> 00:46:11,568
a legal question
that's not attorney client privilege.
934
00:46:11,835 --> 00:46:15,105
Your chat logs can be subpoenaed
and they're most likely being saved
935
00:46:15,105 --> 00:46:19,910
or almost certainly being saved, but most
likely accessible in one way or another.
936
00:46:20,410 --> 00:46:22,679
Those that would want to get into it
937
00:46:23,847 --> 00:46:26,450
and the
938
00:46:26,450 --> 00:46:29,586
other thing to remember
is that when you're dealing with
939
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,856
things like airlines and all that
kind of stuff, you don't really have
940
00:46:32,856 --> 00:46:35,859
the option
to necessarily opt out of these things.
941
00:46:35,859 --> 00:46:38,695
And now it's, traveling internationally.
942
00:46:38,695 --> 00:46:39,129
I notice this.
943
00:46:39,129 --> 00:46:42,633
They take your photograph now when you
leave the country and when you return.
944
00:46:43,433 --> 00:46:44,802
And that's kind of interesting.
945
00:46:44,802 --> 00:46:46,003
I don't know if you can opt out of it.
946
00:46:46,003 --> 00:46:49,006
I mean, if you try to, you're
probably still be at the airport
947
00:46:49,339 --> 00:46:51,842
weeks later. You know,
948
00:46:51,842 --> 00:46:54,077
I don't even know
if that's a thing you can do.
949
00:46:54,077 --> 00:46:57,381
So some of the stuff, it's out there
and there's not a whole lot,
950
00:46:57,381 --> 00:47:00,384
at least right now,
until they get the laws changed and stuff
951
00:47:00,884 --> 00:47:02,352
that you're going to be able to do it.
952
00:47:02,352 --> 00:47:05,355
Public Wi-Fi is another one,
and this is not anything new,
953
00:47:05,722 --> 00:47:08,725
but if you're on a public Wi-Fi network,
be careful of what you do.
954
00:47:09,159 --> 00:47:10,093
If you're going to do banking.
955
00:47:10,093 --> 00:47:11,795
First of all, don't on a public network.
956
00:47:11,795 --> 00:47:15,599
But if for some reason you absolutely
have to use the app from your bank, don't
957
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,135
go to a website
that may or may not be secured.
958
00:47:18,135 --> 00:47:19,203
You know that kind of a thing.
959
00:47:19,203 --> 00:47:23,774
And again, for data like that, just don't
unless it's absolutely necessary.
960
00:47:24,341 --> 00:47:26,910
And in all reality, most of us have good
961
00:47:26,910 --> 00:47:29,913
5G network coverage on our phones.
962
00:47:30,314 --> 00:47:31,415
And if you're going
to need to do something
963
00:47:31,415 --> 00:47:33,250
like that,
get off the Wi-Fi and use your phone.
964
00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:35,686
Connection is a lot more secure.
965
00:47:35,686 --> 00:47:37,321
That actually goes
over the cellular network.
966
00:47:38,288 --> 00:47:39,323
And again,
967
00:47:39,323 --> 00:47:42,860
just first of all, being aware
of what's going on,
968
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:48,832
not accepting permissions carte blanche
all the time and going into your devices.
969
00:47:48,832 --> 00:47:51,602
And I know this is a lot of work.
I did it on my televisions.
970
00:47:51,602 --> 00:47:52,636
It took me about an hour.
971
00:47:52,636 --> 00:47:55,405
I don't have that many televisions
because each one was different.
972
00:47:55,405 --> 00:47:55,739
To go in
973
00:47:55,739 --> 00:47:59,309
and figure out what it was calling,
sending back information or monitoring,
974
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:02,779
getting into it, going through the 15
prompts that say, if you turn this off,
975
00:48:03,146 --> 00:48:04,982
it seems like the LG one was the worst.
976
00:48:04,982 --> 00:48:06,516
Tried to guilt trip me.
977
00:48:06,516 --> 00:48:08,852
You know, we just need this
to make our stuff better.
978
00:48:08,852 --> 00:48:12,789
And, for some reason, when you know what
you're watching to do, that, you know,
979
00:48:12,789 --> 00:48:16,760
not did the software in the TV crash
or is the signal bad or something?
980
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,763
It's they want to know
what you're watching at all times.
981
00:48:20,063 --> 00:48:23,033
Then the next part of it was prompts of,
well, if you turn this off,
982
00:48:23,033 --> 00:48:25,202
you know, this isn't going to work.
And yeah, that might be true.
983
00:48:25,202 --> 00:48:28,171
You might lose some smart features
if you need them. You can't turn it off.
984
00:48:28,171 --> 00:48:32,175
But in most cases, I found that it didn't
really create a problem with that.
985
00:48:32,175 --> 00:48:37,214
One objection
I had was the fact that the television
986
00:48:37,447 --> 00:48:40,651
started disabling things,
but then wouldn't take it off the menu.
987
00:48:40,651 --> 00:48:43,620
So you still go to an, oh,
this is disabled because we can't do it
988
00:48:44,321 --> 00:48:46,156
because you've turned off this function.
989
00:48:46,156 --> 00:48:46,657
Now, whether or not
990
00:48:46,657 --> 00:48:49,860
that has to be the case notwithstanding,
they want the data or money.
991
00:48:50,427 --> 00:48:52,429
So these are just some things
to think about.
992
00:48:52,429 --> 00:48:53,964
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