When you are coming from a particular race, it's even more like, for example, women with color, any color, brown, black, I don't even wanna say it. Right? I hate saying those words when it comes to how you look, right? When it comes to that perspective, there are so many judgments about it, and it shatters the confidence of those people. It shatters. The most intelligent person on the room can also self-doubt because there are perceived perceptions about how you look, what you would say there. Sometimes it's also perceived that if you're going to say something. It would not be regarded.

We'll discuss race and how it plays a factor and how we didn't even talk about this topic 'cause we were afraid

A Black Executive Perspective.

We're coming to you live from the new BEP studio for another thought provoking episode of A Black Executive Perspective podcast. A safe space where we discuss all matters regarding race, culture, and those uncomfortable topics people tend to avoid. I'm your host Tony Tidbit. So before we get started on a fantastic show, I wanna remind everyone, check out our partners at Code M Magazine, whose mission is to save the black family by first saving the black man. So definitely check them out@codemmagazine.com. That is code m magazine.com today. Priyanka Mishra. Global Entrepreneur and two time women. Economic Forum honoree joins BEP for a raw and uplifting conversation about rising above silence, shame, and societal bias from navigating childhood insecurities and academic judgment in India to building a global platform that empowers women. BKA shares her cultural experiences and emotional resilience shaped her approach to leadership. We'll dig into the deeper layers of purpose-driven success, the importance of safe spaces for growth, and why economic empowerment for women, especially women of color, is more than a goal. It's a global movement. Lemme tell you a little bit about my friend Priyanka. Priyanka Mishra is a two-time women economic forum, not honoree. With over 12 years experience driving growth for global brands like Apple, Samsung, and Ford, a seasoned strategist in media and business development, she has played a key role in scaling multi-billion dollar operations. Today. Priyanka is a visionary behind f your talent. A woman led outsourcing platform infuse your ai, a cutting edge AI and SaaS tool designed to accelerate growth for coaches and solopreneurs, driven by belief that women thrive when given the right environment. Priyanka combined sharp business acumen with emotional intelligence. She views sales not just as strategy, but as an extension of mindset and human connection based in India. Her leadership rooted in authenticity, global impact, and deep commitment to empowering women through purpose and possibility. Priyanka Maur, welcome to A Black Executive Perspective podcast, my sister.

Thank you, Tony. It's very exciting to be here. I love what you guys are doing.

Well thank you. And more importantly, we appreciate you investing the time to come on and share your story. Um, it's fantastic and I can't wait for our audience to dive in so you can educate them. But before we get into the heavy stuff, tell us a little bit about where you currently reside, right? Residing and a little bit about your family.

Of course. So, like you said, I'm based in India, um, in the capital city in New Delhi. Um. I've been here, grown up here, traveled the world, but I think reciting here through my life, I come from a very loving joint family of about 22 people living together. It's now nuclear now. Um, but yes, I think I come from a very, um, loving childhood. Um, yes, a little bit challenges in school, I believe, but overall my childhood and my life has been wonderful. I love talking about that.

Well, that is awesome. So 22 people living together.

Yeah, I mean, um, it was sure a big house, but I'm not being pompous, but Yeah. And, um, loving, well, I would, it was a

big house, right?

Yeah. But it always looks small because we are somewhere always, you know, hiding in one room or the other. Playing hide and seek. But it always brings a smile on my face.

Well, that is awesome. Family is great. So I'm glad to hear about that. So, quick question I have for you. You're busy. Uh, you're in India. You, you, you have a global presence. Um, you're working with empowering women all across the globe. Why did you wanna come on A Black Executive Perspective podcast? Talk about this topic.

Oh, good question, Tony. And this is exactly what we were, you know, also talking about the other day when we met, right? That, you know, I have a very strong perspective that irrespective of whichever culture you are coming from, whatever. Geographical, you know, base you have, I think, human emotions, environment and, you know, things like believing in yourself, for example, stays consistent. Right. And today with, with, with this conversation, I want to talk about how humans irrespective of their race, you know, can actually turn around their life by thinking about the inner self to thinking about, you know, how not to, you know, how to close the outside voice. And introspect and grow. So I think with your podcast, I want to, you know, help people evolve irrespective of their race.

I love it. I love it. So listen, you ready to evolve and have this conversation?

Of course. Why not?

Okay, let's talk about it, my friend. So look, let's dive into, you know, because you just got finished saying something that is key. Um, look, you, you have a family. There's 22 of you guys living together, uh, and then out. And so when, a lot of times when you're home, you know, you feel if you grow up in a loving home, you feel safe. Um, but so that shapes part of your identity. But then also when you go out, society has a way of shaping your identity, right? So talk, let's go back a little bit. Tell us about the early days in India. Uh, what did your family life in school look like for you?

Right. Interesting question. Like I said, I think I have got a very mixed emotions when I think about school. You know, I've got great friends. Um, the best friend that I made is still my best friend, right? So I, I think there were their memories, which, which is, which helps me stay strong. But there are also memories of guilt, shame, bullying that happened, you know? And um, there are instances that come to my mind when I talk about this. So yes, there, there are a lot of things that comes to my mind and sometimes gimme goosebumps. Um, so it was, it was mixed for me.

And, and, and so when you say guilt, shame, give us some examples. What was, what was the guilt and shame about

Oh. So I'll give you an event that happened in my life, right, Tony? This was a phase. I was probably in fourth and fifth grade, and there was this boy who would bully me more often, sometimes about my hair, sometimes about my glasses, sometimes just about the food that I got to school, right? But I remember this particular day, you know, it was raining outside and. He walked to me and said, do you know why you don't do well in school? It's because your parents are uneducated, right? And I honestly, I still don't know. I was blank. I felt very ashamed as if the entire school was looking at me. Perhaps not. But that was my feeling and. It was so hard for me to interrupt and you know, interpret that emotion that was going through. How could this person say something like that to me? And I think I still think about that moment of shame, guilt, and that shame wasn't coming because of my parents. They were very educated, right? It was coming because it was a direct attack on me. How did this person have the audacity to talk to me like that? Right? And this is where sometimes. Shame, embarrassment of the outside world can shape you. And the reason we are talking about it today, it perhaps lingers sometimes and shapes who you are. So

no, finish, finish your thought.

Yeah. So I think this is what, and I remember because of that event, I don't think I said anything to him. I was blank. I did, went to my school teacher complained about him, but for some reason she didn't listen. She, she, he was one of the toppers of the class. He, of course, she of course had, you know, favorites, I'm assuming. And that's the time in my life when I kept going to temples every day praying to God, can you help me score? Well, because I wanted my parents to feel proud and honestly they were okay with just how I was doing. Sure. If I would've done that, well, they would've loved that, but. Perhaps my, my thoughts were not centered around how I could evolve at that point in time, but how perhaps external worlds such as values believe God's system, universe could help me at that point in time. And it hits me, it hits me very bad when there are, you know, factors such as this where people mock you when they make comments about your, your family or yourself. And when, when you're not even, that's not even the reason. Right. And it happens so many times in the corporate world. It happens in families, people share thoughts and it stays with you. So yeah, I mean, it, it was, it was hard that way and stayed with me for a really long time,

you know, thanks for sharing that. I, I wanna ask you this question because, you know, I can relate and, and, uh, and when I think of a lot of black children, um, here in America. You know, they have the same feeling. Okay. Where at home they feel protected. They have a loving family that tries to educate them about the, about society when they go out. Right? But then when they do go out, they, they face some type of bias, right? And to your point, it affects them. Um, sometimes they don't even come home and tell their parents. They just absorb it and it never leaves them. So do you see. Those parallels across the cultures?

Yes, I think 100% right? I mean, the reason why there are some people above you in their minds, right, as perspective which, which perhaps can make the other, the perceived weaker section, you know, feel that there is so many negative emotions and thoughts around it. S and, and it's irrespective of the culture. You can be in the same culture perhaps and still feel that way. Imagine what, what some feel when the culture is different.

Did you ever tell your parents about that?

I don't recall. I don't recall.

So you just left it alone?

Yeah, I think I, it took me time for, for perhaps processing all of that. I still feel I should have said something that some did something. I do feel strong about it because I went ahead and complained it to my teacher, but perhaps my doors got closed when she didn't listen. And maybe as a child, I thought that that's it. Maybe nobody would, and sometimes, you know, that's, that's what emotions do to you, right? That because something happened, even your safe space. You as you can think, that your space, space will also not help you.

Exactly. I I definitely can relate to that. Right. So how did that, when the teacher told you that, how did that impact, did it impact your drive or, or sense of identity moving forward after that?

Yeah, I mean, like I said, I was academically. Not very well to do for a really long time. Right. And it was not just that moment, Tony, there was series of events like that when people would mock me because perhaps I was not the topper of the, of the school. And for some reasons the girls in our school did very well, right? So for a girl to be in that kind of school, not doing good was another bias that I had to face subconsciously. And all of that shaped me. Until a time in my life when you know, I was nearing high school, and I remember there was this boy who mocked me again and he said this in front of this class that you have been failure all your life. That was the sentence that he sent me. And honestly, I don't figure, I don't feel about it so strongly. I mocked that situation because I gave it back to him that day. I think I was done with it. Right. I can't take it anymore. You get over it. Right. It was that situation. I was like, you go to hell. I don't think I need that thing anymore. Right. That was my turning point, Tony. You know, how was your turn when I didn't take it back? Yes. That was the point. And then I was like, okay, hell yeah. I can do it. And then there was a series in my life when I got to the 11th grade. That's the time when you get to choose your subjects. I picked up business, I picked up commerce. Um, those were the subjects I loved. And two years I was the topper. I was a gold medalist in school. That's what environment can do to you. That's what your mindset can do to you. Right. When somebody's mocking you, you perhaps can give it back politely. Even shrewdly, I, it doesn't matter, right? But I think that's what, how, that's how it shapes you. There's this time in your life and you don't even know that it's existing, but it's that ion that can just change the perspective that you carry for yourself. You know what I mean?

Listen, I'm looking at you. I, I, I don't want to say nothing to you to get you upset. All right. Because you going on. I love the fire that comes out. That is awesome. And you're right, there needs to be a turning point, you know, just so we can make sure everybody's on the same page, you know, growing up in India. Right. And, and, and to be fair, 'cause you said something a minute ago, you said, uh, when the guy. He mocked you and said, you know, you're not doing well as the other girls and stuff. To that. Talk a little bit about the culture when it comes to education. Um, evidently you were struggling a little bit at that time, but does most kids thrive? Talk a little bit about that.

What In my, in my family, we come from a very well educated family, and so was the environment, like everybody in our neighborhood would go to school. It was very evident. It's not just. My generation a couple of generations ago also had very strong education. Like my maternal, um, grandmother is an attorney. Right. My, my paternal grandmother had, you know, used to be a school teacher. So education was deeply rooted in the family. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Of course, there were no focus or pressure for you to be the topper, you know, the gold league, but it was there environmentally. Even in school, you know, it was that space where people would Yes, help you out, but teachers would predominantly only concentrate on the top students. Mm-hmm. So I think when you talk about the culture, it's predominantly about helping the, um, toppers do better. And yes, there were still select teachers who have shaped me. I can't even tell you the reason why I transformed. The reason why I'm so successful is because there were a select teachers who concentrated on me and who, who patted on my back and said, don't worry. I'm there, right there with you. Can you just concentrate on these four topics outta, for example, those 10 and I'm sure you'll make it. She gave me targets that were achievable. So when I talk about the culture, it was sure, education centric. But a lot of times it was directed towards students who would excel and the people who were leaning behind would keep on, you know, leaning backward.

Got it. Got, I mean, so a lot of times like United States as well, so that makes sense. So look, you know, you stated you felt shame, guilt, you know, based on these different type of attacks. Um, it made you feel. Not fulfilled. It made you feel like a failure. Um, and then eventually you pushed back when you got to 11th grade, I'm not taking this no more, you know? And you excelled. You picked your own classes, business and you, you won medal. Right. What would you say to the, to the people that they have the same issues, people attacking them for whatever reason. Right. And putting labels on them, um, and they internalize it and they don't let it go. What would you say to them?

Hmm. It's very hard for people to understand this, Tony, until the real moment stuck, irrespective of whatever I say. Right? But if you were to ask me, I think if any external factor. And I mean any external factor. That could be your partner. That could be your parents, your own child, the student who talked back at me, your school teacher, your boss. If it is affecting the way you think about yourself, the moment you realize if it's possible for you, you should pause and ask, is this my worth? Right. Is this my word? Most of the times you will have a doubtful answer. Most of the times you will have a doubtful answer. That's when you think about the people who love you and the people who are helping you grow. These could again be anybody, right? Your friend, your family, your own parents. Are they helping you grow because you're worthless? No. You have a certain kind of worth and you have to think about why people love you. Why people support you and not about those people who are shaming you, who are bullying you, who are making fun of you, right? So if we, at that moment when you have doubtful thoughts about yourself, Tony, we have to think about the people who love us if we can, and why do they do that? You know? And you will perhaps not find an answer to that. But when you think about the people who love you, Tony. You will know that in case you love, you're here to be, you know, be in this universe. And that's the start of positive thinking process for me.

I love it. And, and so, and then you ended up pushing back, right? You ended up winning a gold medal, right? So what did that make you feel? When you won that medal, when somebody for years was saying, and I'm paraphrasing, you're stupid, you are a failure. Um, you didn't, your family is uneducated. How did that make you feel at that moment when you, when you won?

Honestly, on a side note, I have always imagined myself to be on that stage to get that gold medal. Every night. I used to think about that. When I started doing well, I imagined myself on the stage, how I would walk, what is the kind of smile I would have, you know? So I imagined all of that to be there. Right. And the thought that you told me, I for sure felt it. I was proud of myself, but more so Tony, because that person actually made a remark on my parents. It was a pride moment for me. My parents, of course, loved it. My, my, my, my mother had tears in her eyes, right? And so did my father. So it was a proud moment for me, not just for me, but because they have given me such a loving environment and you damn cannot come back and make a comment on me. And that was a slap on his face. He doesn't even know it till date. But Loki, I was slapping his face. Hi, Keith. Hi Keith. Um, I was making my parents proud.

That's awesome. You know, there's, um, you know, one of the things I believe is that sometimes adversity can fuel you. Okay? It can push you forward. Um, you know, just hearing your story up to this point. You are always a smart individual, okay? At the end of the day, somebody said something to you and you said, you know what? I'm not taking this no more. And it actually, uh, I don't wanna say it, it, um, uh, moti we could say motivate. Yeah. It motivated you to like, I'm not dealing with this no more. And then you be, you started excelling. Nobody becomes Einstein overnight. Okay. Either you have it or you don't. So you evidently had it. But that motivation came out. And, and here's the thing though too. You were a quiet person, correct?

Well, at school, yes. Yes. Tell a certain time. Yes. So,

so what happens is, is typically, you know, bullies end up picking on people who they seem as quiet or weak. So they underestimate those people, right? So talk a little bit how this quiet person flipped the script on everybody.

I think it was the ion that was building on me. And you never know the prayers actually, you know, they were granted, like I said, there was a time in my life I went to temple every day and I prayed that, can you gimme good marks because I wanna show it to my parents and make them proud. Yeah. So you never know, right? I, I, I, I believe in the universe, right? But I also believe that there was something which is to do with the thought process of shaping this all together.

You know, so here's the thing though. You did the work and so I, I definitely get the prayer part 'cause I believe in prayer and all that as well, right? But at the end of the day, you know, God didn't beam down as to you, okay? He didn't do your paperwork for you, okay? You did it okay. Just to be fair, right? So at the end of the day. You flipped the script. You made it happen, and obviously since that moment you've been thriving ever since. So tell us a little bit, you know, what led you to the women at Fusion talk. Talk to us a little bit about that.

Yeah, so like I said, there was this bias, Tony, where girls in our school were doing very well. I wasn't. So there was this bias that led to, you know, girls can, can cannot be failures. Right? They have to succeed and yes, um, girls can do whatever they want, but they can be a girl who perhaps don't wanna succeed in business and they want to, you know, wanna have a better childhood. They can do everything that they want. Right? So I continued my professional journey. I worked with multi-billion dollar organizations. Um, did fantastically well health clients like Apple and you know, the really big billion organizations to scale up with, with the support that we provided. But there was still this contradiction where men were supported more than women, and especially because I was a part of sales, I was a part of monetization. You know, they still looked at you as somebody that you're dressing up. Well, that's why you are getting that meeting, which is not right, you know, which is not right. There was a time in her life when. They were questioning when I'm at planning my pregnancy because they would not hire me because I would be away on my maternity break. And who would do the sales? There are so many biases, um, and I think not just in India, across the globe, right? And that's what, you know. So when I started shaping my journey, um, I worked with these organizations, started my own business, did very well for a few years, unfortunately, COVID hit, and that's where I was looking for work. And I had two options then. There was one, there was one place which was Fuzia, that, you know, it was building up their community. They wanted to scale this, make this a stronger business, you know, opportunity for women to get work and for organizations to help them hire. And there was this, again, very huge, uh, multi-billion organization, media company who wanted to hire me. And I had a very longstanding experience with multi-billion dollar media companies, right? For some reason, my mind told me that you don't have to go there. You have to go this side because this is your space to help women. This is your space where you can talk about biases, human biases, gender biases, right? Um, you can help the perceived weaker section. And I'm saying that again, you can help the perceived weaker section, you know, and support them. Change the mindset. And I started with this 1% as a, you know, team. I was the person who would do everything. And now. I've scaled this to space where we are a 30% team. And of course, I had my founder and myself and a few other people, they were supporting other ventures, but not the future talent venture, right? And this is the space. I was like, oh my God. I thought to myself, I have landed in heaven because this is my space where I can talk whatever I want. And I've been associated with Fuzia for a little over four years now, and it's not even one day what I felt that I would to quit this job. Because every day I wake up, I have meaningful conversations with people, whether it's business, whether it's my team, and I see that beauty coming around. Sure, we have bad days, right? Sometimes we have got very bad days, but I never think about Le leaving this organization because I love what we are doing in terms of supporting women with. Economic independence. And I, most of our clients come back to us and say, oh my God, the women that you've, you have connected us with don't even have brains. But they're so emotionally equipped that they can just understand what I'm going through and support me. And when, when you help small businesses, Tony, especially solopreneurs, they are the people who are leading it. They're the people who are executors, right? So if you have a person who's not just supporting you, scale your business, but also helping you with emotions. You feel that you're doing something right. And that's what I love it. That's what fulfillment is for me.

So, so educate everybody in exactly. What is Fuzia's motto? What does Fuzia do?

Right, so Fuzia has got a community of over 5 million women, right? There are entrepreneurs, there are Wes, there are. Freelancers, you know, and think of us as a bridge, Tony, where on one side we've got really strong women who can help you with your marketing, who can help you with your website development, who can help you with, for example, tasks that are, um, you know, priority important, but you don't wanna do it right now. It's not as big as a priority and other things. Right? And these are well-trained women who are looking for work, who are looking to stay economically independent. On the other side, there are organizations who want to hire. Fractional employees, right, who want to make sure that they can save some cost by perhaps hiring out offshore employees, but they still want int intelligence. That's where we work as a bridge and we help people, um, you know, hire these fractional support virtual assistants and, you know, fractional, um, um, support systems. And we definitely support women, but we never say no to any gender. We are a very gender inclusive space. And over the years. Um, we have seen about 10, 15% of other genders coming in, supporting us. When I say other gender, I mean any other gender beyond, you know, women. So that's the beauty, you know, that's the, it's not just the model that's helping people outsource, um, virtual assistants or, you know, support staff for their organizations virtually, but it's also, you know, bringing that layer and the mindset where the men and other genders coming to support women and scale together. So that's what we are doing.

Love it. Love it. So let me ask you this though. Um, why is it important creating a judgment free environment so crucial to leadership and growth?

Hmm. You know, sometimes, and mostly when you, when you think about people who are at your level, for example, a coworker and in a hierarchical system, somebody who's above you, say you are boss. When they make a remark on you, it stays with you, right? So if there's somebody who's reporting to me would make a remark, it might not stay for so long. It would, but it might not say so long because you're perceiving that you're more intelligent than the other person, right? But when a person makes a remark on you who's just at the same level or over you, it stays much stronger. It can give scars. It can hinder your confidence. It can hinder the approach of how you think, and that can not just lead to the way this person thinks and behave, but this can also impact the others in the family, in the organization. So when you are, as an organizational perspective, if you're making harsh comment on people, even subconsciously, you know, sometimes people don't even know that they're making those remarks. Like, for example, somebody asking me when am I planning my pregnancy is a very, very personal remark. Why do you think I would on Earth ever tell you that? Right.

So,

so, right. So, you know, you're, you, he perhaps did it subconsciously because it was so normal for him to ask. He were perhaps only thinking about the business. Right. And imagine I would've joined that organization and gotten pregnant. What would've done that?

Correct. What would've happened then? Exactly. Exactly.

Yeah. So the reason why we should try and talk about cultures, and we should talk about a judgment-free space. Is because that can leave a remark on your employee. And when something leaves a remark on your employee, it impacts the overall productivity. On the other hand, if you understand and you be yourself how you are, you let the feed forward come to you. And I'm not saying feedback. What's done is done when you let the feed forward come to you as a leader, right? You take that, you absorb that, you comprehend that you figure it out for yourself, if that's correct or not. And then you do the same with other. What's gone is gone for the team members talk about feed forward, what can they do, what's coming up next? Obviously reflecting on on the past, but thinking about the future, right? And that's what a judgment field for world can do for you. You can't even think, you talk about 10 x times business scaling. You talk about all those things, but you have to go to the ground level and think. Do you feel that your team is feeling supported, that even that intern who has just joined, do you think somebody's paying attention to that person? And if the answer is no, there's something that your organization is lacking.

Wow.

Right.

I love it. And I love what you said, uh, uh, feed forward, right? Instead of feed back, right. Because what happens is already done. Uh, the feed, the, the information is about moving forward. So I love that. So look, you know, you've listened to our show. You know, we talk a lot about race in corporate America. Um, I'd love to get your take on how Intersexuality plays out on a global stage for women of color.

How, sorry. Come again. I lost you. How

intersectionality, how intersex. So you're a woman, you're a mom, and then you're Indian, or you're black, or whatever the case may be. How all those forces together play out globally for women of color?

Right. So when there are any way so many judgements around women, when you are coming from a particular race, it's even more like, for example, women with color, any color, brown, black, I don't even wanna say it, right? I hate saying those words when it comes to how you look, right? When it comes to that perspective, there are so many judgements about it, and it shatters the confidence of those people. It shatters. The most intelligent person on the room can also self-doubt because there are perceived perceptions about how you look, what you would say. There's sometimes it's also perceived that if you're going to say something, it would not be regarded right. And like I said, it can just thrash because if you're not opening your space for women or any per perhaps. Perceived weaker section, you are losing out on a big chunk of intelligent humans. And when you lose out on intelligence, emotionally available humans, you, uh, scale down or perhaps be stagnant or perhaps you cannot scale up with, with the same speed as you would want. And when you train the people who are perhaps not black women, like you said. You, you help them be subconsciously available for those women and you become an inclusive space. People come together, support each other as humans, and not by judge you, by the color, not judge you by how you look, not judge you by the food you bring to office. Right? So it's about, it's about getting, thinking about who is intelligent enough and emotionally available to help you scale up rather than thinking about how they would look. What is their background, how do they speak?

I totally agree, and it's unfortunate that, you know, that's the world around us, right? Is that, and a lot of, a lot of that has to do with fear. It has to do with, because at the end of the day, uh, you know, some people feel, how can I live with myself if, if this woman is better than me or if this person of color is better than me? You know? So a lot of that is fear. But at the end of the day, nobody would want that same remark or those same comments said to them, right. And so, you know, it's really about understanding and I love what you said, but it's really about understanding people and understanding how we all are able to thrive or how we all take a backseat based on things that are said to us. And we may externally at that moment play like it's not a big deal. But those comments hang with you for, it could be forever to be honest, right? If you don't have a strong self-esteem and pushback or whatever the case may be. And so I'm glad you're talking about this, um, because at the end of the day, this is stuff that people are dealing with on a daily basis. Um, I've been in organizations where, you know, um, I don't wanna say all women, but you know, certain women were looked at as second class citizens, or they, they didn't get the same type of opportunities or. Um, they were, you know, talked down to, as you were saying about certain remarks and, and maybe some of it was subconsciously, right? Maybe it was subconscious, but it doesn't matter, right? Because at the end of the day, you wouldn't want your daughter to be talked like that or your wife to feel that way, or whether the case may be right. Let me ask you this. So what would you say to women or people of color who feel underestimated by society? What would you say to them?

Hmm. I would tell them to, whenever they're feeling frustrated, can they pause and just think about like, pausing is very important. Tony, whenever you think that there is, you know, I've said this previously, also, pausing is very important. If you don't pause, you cannot process your emotions, right. So you have to pause, think back about who you are as a human being and concentrate on your good deeds, your positive traits in your personality, and just take that baby step of what you can do, and I'll give you a very hilarious answer. I just gave this to somebody today. Morning. This, this one woman today in our organization is really struggling family wise, right? Very struggle for family, not a very positive environment. And she doesn't really have a lot of money to take therapy also. And I told her that you, whenever get stuck, can you go to Chad, GBD and tell him, tell it that. Can you be, can you be my therapist? This is what I'm going through. And I, I can't even tell you the bizarre answers that it's gonna throw at you. You know, so I yes can talk about all the wonderful things and you know, women get preached all the time, what they should do, what they shouldn't do, right? So yes, I can talk about that. They can pause and think about their positives, but if they really want an actionable approach in that moment charge, if we can actually be a very strong therapist, you can just go and talk about, talk shit about the people who are. Talking nonsense about you or behind your back, or perhaps in front of you. And it's going to short throw you some vivid eight list answers, but you never know. There's one pickup, and I've seen, I've done this with, with Chad G and said, can you just shut up and gimme one recommendation of what I should do? Just one. And you will, you'll be, you know, it'll blow your mind that it's actually given a very positive answer there, right? So try that out, women. Humans. If you feel stuck, try doing that with Chad, GBD. If you don't have any support, if you think you don't want to talk about other people who can judge you, even your space, space, because sometimes you feel your safe space can also judge you, Chad, GBD perhaps will not judge you. It's definitely artificial intelligence, but it's, it's trained that way to support you better. So perhaps that,

okay. Well look, I mean we have that technology now, right? So, and you can do this in the. The privacy of your home. I love it. Let me ask you this, and you grew up, um, dealing with this, right? You know, our world is, is obsessed with performance. Okay? Like you said, the, the toppers and people at the bottom and you're not smart enough or you're, you don't work hard enough or you didn't get this on the task. How can we teach our kids and even our friends that. Don't worry about the performance lead with AU authenticity.

I think it starts with yourself, Tony. You have to behave that way and be more than behaving. You have to think that way. When you do certain things. Your children adapt from you when you behave a certain way. It get, the energy gets transferred. I'll give you an example. You talked about children. There are so many times when people make remarks on your children saying, for example, this, this baby's so shy. You know, whenever I come home, this baby doesn't talk with me. You know, as a parent, what do you think we could do? We can say, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's shy. There's another perspective of how we can do it. But I don't think this baby's shy. You know, you name your child. I don't think, for example, um, X, Y, Z is shy. I think that she just takes its own time to understand people, right? So you have to stand for yourself. You have to stand for, for your baby. You have to stand for your friend that, no, I don't think that this baby shy. You cannot put a label on my baby. Who are you to say that? Let that baby identify who she is or who he is, right? You as a mother, because I am nurturing my child, I will take a stand there and say, no, you can't say you can't label my baby. You know, yes, my baby takes some amount of time to mingle with people. I think that's an intelligent trait to observe people before you start talking. And I think that what, that's what it, she's, he or she's doing. So we have to first, you know, adopt that kind of a mindset for ourself. And then you'll see that our children are automatically learning that. And when, if somebody makes a remark on my, on their parent, just like the other child did in my school. My for, for God forbid, if my baby has to go through that, I'm gonna raise my baby because, so that you can answer back. You cannot label. You cannot label. And if you do, I'll give it back to you.

I love it, my girl. I love it. And so that's an excellent answer. Final question, what's one truth that you live by no matter what comes up, this doesn't stop. What's the one truth?

I think truth for me is honesty. I don't lie consciously. I never lie, and that just sails my boat every time. It just does. And sometimes I'm in trouble because of that. I've been in many, many, many troubles. I can't even count, but I think that's my truth. I'm just very honest. Sometimes. Sometimes, all the time. So.

Well, listen, I, we appreciate your honesty on here. Okay. We glad you didn't lie. All right, but that's awesome. So look, final thoughts, what do you wanna leave the audience, Priyanka?

Well, I think I'll leave it up to kindness. I will talk about that Real leadership or real. When we live in a society, it's all goes down to your authenticity, right? If you think that you're a certain way, behave that way. And yes, there will be people who will like you. There will be people who will not, but that's how you'll be able to figure out your tribe. And when you have your tribe, you scale. So perhaps that.

I love it, my friend. Thanks for that. How can A Black Executive Perspective podcast help you Priyanka?

Well, I think we talked about Fuzia, right? We talked about the women who are associated with us every day. If I can have a couple of women get some sort of employment, some sort of project through our platform, it makes me feel that we've got a very successful day. Right. So if, if from your podcast, if you can help organizations get to know that there's a space where they can hire intelligent women who are very dedicated and ambitious towards their career journey and towards making you scale better, then they can know that we are here. We have helped organizations in scaling up their personal brand website and there's so much more, right? So. Yeah, if you can create awareness about that, Tony, it would be very helpful.

Where, where can people find Fuzia, find more about it?

Yeah, so Fuzia has got a website that's called www.fuziatalent.com, Fuzia talent.com, and they can straight away go and, you know, figure out and, you know, fill up a sweet form, very quick one, and share about the requirements. They can connect with me directly on LinkedIn. Um, you can pop my link. You know, LinkedIn's link and they can get in touch there. So yes, those are the two particular places.

Awesome. We'll put that up on our website. So number one, we'll definitely help you in that area, right? I love what you guys are doing and I love your spirit, um, your love for your fellow human being. I love how you took, uh, a negative that happened to you as a kid and used it as fuel. But not just for you to succeed, but for you to help others and empower others and create a platform for women, um, so that they can be, they can win a gold medal like you did. Right? So, um, you know, Priyanka, we love you a lot. I really appreciate you coming on A Black Executive Perspective podcast to share your story. To share your insight and, and obviously your inspiration and motivation for women all across the globe. We love you a lot and we're gonna have you come back on and give us an update, you know, sometime in the future.

Of course. I would love that. I love for having conversations with you, Tony, and um, I would love to be back, you know, and, um, I hope this help. If it can just help a few humans on this earth then. I think it's, it's fulfillment, right? Just right there.

Well, you know what? It definitely helped us today, so thank you. So I think it's now time for Tony's tidbit and the tidbit today. The very experience is meant to suppress you can be become your greatest training ground shame, silence and struggle don't make you less qualified. They refine your empathy, sharpen your resilience, and deepen your emotional intelligence. You learn how to navigate complexity. You learn how to read rooms, build bridges, and rise without a blueprint, because once you stop seeing your backstory as baggage and start seeing it as preparation, you stop apologizing for your voice. And you start using it to lead, and you heard a lot of that from our guest today, Priyanka Mishra from Fuzia Talent. So again, I hope you enjoyed this episode. Don't forget to check out the next need to know by Dr. Nsenga Burton. Here on A Black Executive Perspective Podcast, Dr. Burton dives into the timely and crucial topics that shape our world and community on a daily basis. Tune in to gain insight, deepen your understanding of the issues that matter. You don't want to miss it every Thursday here. On A Black Executive Perspective podcast. Need to Know by Dr. Nsenga Burton. And don't miss the next episode of Pull Up. Speak Up where bold, unfiltered voices tackle the day's most provocative issues Our round table provides their sharp perspectives, real talk. Tune in to join the revolution, you're gonna really, really enjoy it. So if this is your first time listening or watching A Black Executive Perspective podcast, you know our goal is to decrease, eliminate all forms of discrimination. And we ask everyone to do this with our acronym called less, LESS, and the L stands for learn. You want to educate yourself on racial and cultural nuances so you can be more enlightened of how other people, what they do, and understand their cultures. And then after you learn, you have the letter E, which stands for empathy. Now since you've learned, now you can be more empathetic because now you can put yourself in their shoes. And then the first S is share. Now share your insights to enlighten others. So this way, share with your friends and family so they can learn as well. And then the final S is stop. We wanna actively stop discrimination as it walks in our path. So if Aunt Jenny or Uncle Joe says something that's inappropriate at the Sunday dinner table, you say, aunt Jenny, uncle Joe, we don't believe that. We don't say that. And you stop it right there. So if everyone can incorporate less, LESS will build a more fair, more understanding world and we all will see the change that we want to see. Because Less will become more. You can follow or watch or listen to Black Executive Perspective Podcast on YouTube, apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcast. And follow us on our socials of LinkedIn, X, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram at a black exec for our fabulous guest, Priyanka Maur. I'm Tony Tidbit. We talked about it. We learned about it. We're still gonna strive about it and we're gonna thrive about it. We love you. And guess what? We're out

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