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Ah Hello, Hello, and welcome to the Borealis

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experience. I'm your host Aurora. And I'm very excited to

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have Phil Lunia. Today with me

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by my real name today,

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he's filling by his real name. And if you don't know what limb

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year means it means the best. And so far what I've learned

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from Phil, he's been the best. He's a super host. He's a super

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interview guest. I guess I'll find out today. And he's a big

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dog out there when it comes to podcasting. And yeah, I'm just

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very excited to get him to know a little better and for his

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audience to get him to know a little deeper and Yeah,

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everybody's gonna benefit here. Phil, how did your story start?

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I know that a lot of people who are out there supporting others,

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doing podcasting, have a story that led to that career. Start

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out with, with your youth or maybe your childhood, wherever

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you want to start.

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Alright, well, we'll go back about go back about 30 years.

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Let's go back then. Just I grew up in a relatively very happy in

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my, my childhood was like ideal, if you will, we did move around

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a lot. I moved from Montreal. I'm originally from Montreal,

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Quebec, Canada, moved to Prince Edward Island. When I was about

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five years old. I lost my grandfather on the same time.

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And my birthday when I was five years old, and my parents said,

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Oh, no, he has a little bug on his thing. And we celebrated my

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birthday a week early specifically so that we could

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make sure that he could see my fifth birthday. And I've always

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kind of taken him as my guardian angel, someone who was always

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watching over me and he loves He loves blue jays. So whenever I

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see a blue jay I always think of him and I think of my

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grandparents because like that's, that's my my

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grandfather. And then move it. We moved to Ottawa a few years

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later, then back to Montreal and been living in Montreal my whole

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life and lost lost my grandparents. While I was in

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high school, I only had two grandparents pretty pretty much

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after a grave. When I was five, had my mom's father, her mother

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passed away when my parents got married. So I never really got

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to meet my mother's mom. My grandmother passed away the same

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year as 911 earlier in 911. And it was really weird because my

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grandfather had passed away my we called him Poppy. So my Poppy

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passed away. And then like, two weeks later, my grandmother died

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on Mother's Day right in front of us on at our at a family

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dinner at a central bar barbecue, which is like a

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chicken restaurant, kind of like Swiss chalet. And it was just

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like, you have, she was sitting right in front of me. We had

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just finished all the photographs of all the

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grandkids, the family all together like really happy

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occasion. And then you're just sitting here, we're eating and

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she starts coughing like she's choking and the waiter comes and

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tries to give her the Heimlich and it's not working. My dad

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realizes what's going on. She's having a heart attack. And he's

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like, Mom, I just tell her tell him you're doing fine. And he's

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like, she's like, she sits down and she peacefully passes away.

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After that. A little Aaron, it was just like, you have three

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kids. Yeah, my, my sister who's maybe she's three years old or

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two years older than me. And my brother was only 18 months

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younger than me. And then my, my cousins were there. They're

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obviously older, and then my aunts and uncles. And then we're

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just waiting. Like, this is the first time I've ever seen

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someone die. Like I've seen dead bodies before from like when

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going to funerals but like, this is the first time death has

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actually like physically entered my life. You know, like saying,

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Hi, I'm death. Here's what's going on. So grandmother passed

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in front of me and it affected me, but I don't think I realized

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how much it affected me until later in life and doing therapy

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and we'll get to that that's a fun story. But yeah, her passing

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away and it was just like, What the hell like what's going on?

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Like, why did I lose two people were so important to me so close

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together. So really affected me there and I, I went into a bit

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of a bubble when I was going through the rest of my

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schooling. Didn't want to meet people didn't really want to

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like, at school, I was very social. Everybody knew who I

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was. But outside of school, I didn't really hang out with

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anybody because I was drawn and I didn't want to connect with

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people on a deeper level than just surface because I was

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always I was terrified that they would pass away. And that's

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something I learned only from doing therapy later in my life

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after my burnout. But yeah, so I lost my grandparents really

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early. And it struck me and my dad's family is an interesting

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family. They're, they're not really well connected. They're,

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they kind of looked down on my dad and put them down because he

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was the youngest. And they didn't really. And it was a

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really weird dynamic, they all table so there was always anger

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whenever I would go to my grandparents for Christmas or

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any holiday. So, I've always had like this. I guess you could say

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I've had an anger issue because of like losing my grandparents

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and then, you know, always being surrounded by this anger at

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like, apparently happy times like Christmas, Christmas and

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Easter. They're supposed to be happy and all their celebration

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family love. But it always would devolve into an argument

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whenever we're at my, my dad's parents, my dad's family's

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place. And after my grandmother passed away, my dad's like,

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yeah, no more. We're not going to be seeing them. Unless we

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have to weddings, yes, funerals, yes. But every other thing,

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probably not. And what ended up happening is, when I was born,

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my parents didn't make my dad's brother, my godfather. And in in

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French family, it's very important like the the oldest

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sibling is usually the godparent to, to the children. And because

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I'm the only I was the firstborn male side. So I was like, Come

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to Jesus, I was like Jesus reborn for my grandparents,

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like, I were always the hospital, I was born and it's

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right in front of this giant church, you have here in Quebec

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in Montreal, ended up the blinds up for my grandmother to see see

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me. She was like, she said, in French, bonjour, Vita pipe,

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pretty much saying, Oh, my God, he's going to be a priest. And

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my mom's like, right beside her going, What the hell are you

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saying? No, he's not. You know, like, I it was kind of like a

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joke in the family that I was going to become a priest, or at

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least someone who spoke a lot. And lo and behold, I become a

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podcaster later in life, and all I do is talk. But yeah, so I, I

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have always had this thing in my uncle. Like, I had this complex,

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I wasn't important enough in my life. Because people that I

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would like, I would expect to love me and care for me, treated

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me as like an afterthought. So I've always thought of myself as

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an afterthought throughout my whole life. And growing up, same

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thing I was reserved, didn't go out, hit 18. That's when I kind

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of like decided to start fluttering my wings, start

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connecting with people learning and met some great people

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developed my personality, develop who I was, let myself

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like, evolve into this great person. And then, yeah, about

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six years, I started my my first podcast that feel better show,

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just to talk to people about movies, because I'm passionate

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about movies, I love movies, and just sit and have a chance to

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sit and talk with my friends about movies, right? And so I

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was handling that all myself doing every night even asking my

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co hosts to help out it was just me, me, me, because I thought if

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I can't group work never works. And so I started doing it all

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myself. And I was starting a relationship with this amazing

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lady. And it was going good. And then it just fell into this

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like, toxic situation. My, my work life wasn't I wasn't moving

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up. In my work. It was it was just stagnant. I was like, entry

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level couldn't move up. And it was really annoying. And I

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jumped around for a couple of jobs. Never really liked seeing,

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like, I always always told I was special, you know, why am I not

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moving up and not understanding and I'm like, I'm doing what

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they say, you know, I'm doing everything I'm going above and

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beyond and I'm not getting the recognition not doing all this.

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And that just led to me being more harder and harder on

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myself, which caused me to gain weight, cause the relationship

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that I was in, which wasn't a great relationship to turn sour,

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and just start getting, like more toxic and just keep the

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toxicity because I wouldn't talk to my partner like, I advocate

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like communication key, but I wouldn't talk with my partner

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about some of the stuff because I was either embarrassed or I

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didn't know how to share that because I never ever was taught

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how to share that. And then And then about in 2019 We broke up

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and it hit me hard. Hit me very hard because I was like, I

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thought it was gonna live the rest of my life with this girl,

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right? Like, this is the person that I cared for, like i i live

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together and all this and we ended up breaking up and it just

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like I had no passion in life had nothing anymore. I was lost,

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I was rudderless. So I just dive down. I dive deep into my, my

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work and my job and I was just pushing, pushing, pushing,

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pushing, pushing. And all have pretty much 2019 Until the end

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in November of 2019. Funny enough very close to my

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birthday. A lot of crazy things happen around my birthday for

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some reason. I had a blow with my parents, mainly my mother and

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like my mother is I'm the biggest mama boy in the world

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like Like me and my dad can go head to head and we have gone

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head to head countless times kind of like two bulls, you

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know, locking horns, trying to decide who's bigger, but like,

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my mom would come in and say stop that and be like, Okay, I'm

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sorry. Like, my mom would tell me, I'm terrified of my mother.

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I love my mother to death, but I'm terrified of her. Even

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though I know I could like, easily just like snapper like a

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twig. I'm terrified at my mother, but I love her to death.

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Like, there is no one in this world. And I had an argument

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with her over Christmas ornaments of all the things like

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because they downgraded from the house, because like, none of the

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kids were living with them, they moved into a condo. And they

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were getting rid of the Christmas ornaments. They're

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like, here, we're gonna give you the Christmas ornaments you

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choose between that. And it just somehow an argument just develop

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and it was just a screaming match. Like, you have my dad

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there. My brother, my brother was paranoid schizophrenia about

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20 years ago. And he's been living with that. So whenever

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there's a change, or like, there's aggressivity in the

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room, it sets him off. So like, everybody's trying to be calm

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around him. And here I am blowing up my my nephews,

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they're my brother in law's they're my sisters. They're my

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dad, my mom, my brother, just arguing and it's like,

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what the hell and so my parents, like my dad was like, What's

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wrong with you? And little later, my mom comes out of her

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room, because she she's like, I can't deal with it. You're being

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an asshole, excuse my language. And she just left and ended up

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cooling down stuff, like, cool down and my mom was like, Okay,

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you need help. And I'm like, Yes, I need help. I admitted to

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myself that I was not doing well, I needed help. wasn't in a

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good place. So my dad made an appointment with the family

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doctor went to see him did the physical do the blood test all

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that I was at 300 pounds. By heavy, most of my life, I was

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like 200 pounds. I was a 300 pounds, possible kidney stones,

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because of my weight and how I was living. And then if I will

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try the antidepressants, we'll go we'll do that for a few

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months. Do that for December, come January, nothing's changed.

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Its work is still like I'm just getting angrier and angrier and

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angrier and like, nothing's like there's nothing and um, I ended

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up stopping my for my podcast because I was like, I can't like

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I can't do this anymore. It's too much. I'm just going to

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explode. So I put the podcast on hiatus and then have a follow up

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meeting with the doctor sit down with him like I can't my mental

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health isn't, isn't doing well, I can't do this anymore. And

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he's like, Okay, how much time do you want off? I'm like, I

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have such a strong work ethic. Whenever I think of people

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taking time off. I'm like, What the hell's wrong with you, you

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know, you don't need to work. You can do this. Like that was

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my old mentality. And I kind of still had it then. And I was

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like, I only need two months. And I put a challenge to myself.

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I'm like, you have two months to figure out what the fuck is

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wrong with you? Because again, excuse my language. I'm not sure

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if we're allowed to swear. Oh, yeah. We're okay. Great. Let it

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off. So I was like, Well, you have two months to figure out

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what the fuck is wrong with you get your head right, get going.

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Luckily, my doctor put me in touch with an amazing

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psychologist. And I call it the day that I got my time off from

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work like I want my dad took me from the doctor's office to my

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work. I walked in talk with my boss and like here, he's like,

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how much time do you have off? I'm like, two months. He's like,

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okay, cool. Um, I call me if I if anything, he looks at me.

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He's like, Are you a fucking idiot? Get the hell out of the

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office. I don't need I don't want to see you for two months.

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I don't want to hear from you for two months. Like go he'll,

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we'll deal with whatever. You just go take care of yourself.

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And I love he was he's an amazing boss, great guy. And

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it's like, it was one of the best pieces of advice like fuck

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work, just go heal. And so I went home, called the

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psychologist and she got me an appointment. Like she's like,

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okay, Tuesday, the following Tuesday, like so this was a

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Wednesday that the 31st of January I went on burnout.

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Tuesday, I had my first appointment at the with the

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psychologist. And I had always said I'm gonna go to I know I

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need psychologists. I need to go see it. Now. I had the time, two

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months off. So it was like, Okay, time to go. So I went into

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the therapy, and I sat down and I'm like, I don't know what to

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do. And she's like, just let's just talk. So I'm like, Okay,

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I'm used to talking. I have a podcast I can do this. So we

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started talking I just stuff just stuff from my past was

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coming out like I didn't even know that was an issue. We just

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talked and talked and talked and it was one of the probably one

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of the best moments of my life that first session. I have just

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sitting talking with her and realizing that she's there to

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help me because I was always scared to open up to people

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because I I'm worried that someone's gonna manipulate and

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use that power against me and hurt me, right? Because you see

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all these people using secrets or relieving releasing stuff.

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And it's like, I don't want that out there. I don't need that out

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there. I don't need people because I was always under the

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impression that perfection, perfection perfection, right.

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And then when you do therapy, realize no one's fucking

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perfect, like, pleasing it to her kind of like, opened up my

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like, opened me up and I was like, Wow, this, this feels

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good, you know, talking communication. So I was seeing

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her weekly, for six, six months. And then COVID hit, you know,

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like right in like right in the middle of my burnout. COVID

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hits. So lockdown happened in March, I think seven in Quebec.

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But as we're going through it, like I'm doing multiple things,

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because I want to be ready to go back, at least 50% charged, so

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that I can go back to work and I have the tools necessary to

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fight off anything and keep charging my batteries. So I'm

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Tuesdays are my appointments with my psychologist Thursdays,

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I was going to my parents place to see my nephew. And now my

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nephew was only two years old at the time or just just turning to

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and the pure love and just innocence of him. Just filled me

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with joy. Like he seeing him and just being able to be like,

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Okay, what are we doing, we're going to just play with a car

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and just drive it back and forth. Cool. And just the

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simplicity of the child was something I was like, oh my god,

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like I need more simplicity in my life, I need more childlike

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behavior. So every Thursday it was like, I would go to my my

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parents place I would, my sister would drop off my nephew, I

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would play with my nephew, just be with my nephew. And then I

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would eat supper and my dad would drive me home afterwards.

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And then COVID hit and then I lost that opportunity to see my

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nephew because my sister was very scared about contracting

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COVID She's like, No one's seeing the baby. You can see him

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on FaceTime. That's it, that's all and it sucked greatly. But

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at the same time, I understood like she's a new mother. They

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went through a lot of work to get the baby. So like she wants

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to protect this child and I'm no no anger at all towards her.

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Like, I probably would have done the same thing you know, later

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on through COVID. She's like, Okay, you guys can come visit

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but you have to say at the end of the driveway, you know, we

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got to see him and he was confused because he's like, but

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I'm gonna go hug him. I want to hug man. I want to hug Papa. You

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know, and he will about why he couldn't. But he forgot about it

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now like now he's like jumping in our arms. We're all vaccine

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and all that. We're all vaccinated in that but so like I

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had to figure out different methods of it's a very cute

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thing when we faced with him. He loves hanging up the phone. So

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the minute you say by his fingers already on the button

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clicking on it, you don't even get to say bye to everybody else

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you say bye to him and then it's done. You have no you can't say

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bye to anybody else. So you're kind of okay, pass me to mommy

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pass me to daddy. Okay, bye. And then he hangs up. So it's super

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cute, but I had to figure it out, figure out a way to heal

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and get that positivity in that like happiness back into my

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life. And so I consider my nephew I was blessed my sister

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made me the Godfather and I take that like I call myself the god

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Frankel because I consider myself the fun Uncle, you know,

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like I'm the I'm the one that's there. I'm I'm the jungle gym.

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I'm like full on down or we're going to be playing in the dirt

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cool. I mean the dirt. I'm doing things for his for his one year

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birthday. I ended up buying him a bouncy castle. For one year

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old. This is not a toy or a thing. You get a one year old

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you get a 345 year old this store. But no I went out and I

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bought him a $300 bouncy castle just because I wanted to be that

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fun uncle. And my brother in law was like really? And my sister

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was like, fuck because he figured I would do something

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like that like I am that type of person like my family knows I

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will do anything just for fun. So I bought him this and I

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teased for a long time they finally put it up and have him

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play on it more often now but when he was one years old one

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and two I could understand them not why no bounce on a bouncy

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castle, right? He doesn't have the the equilibrium to walk

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around in that. So it's a really great to see him on it but he

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just filled me with joy. So I needed to find a way to fill

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myself with joy. And during the therapy. I figured out I have to

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walk so like the third week into the therapy. I would walk home

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now this is in February. In Montreal. It is cold as okay

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it's super cold. So here I am. I have this huge coat on and I'm

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walking in 300 pounds and I'm walking Walking, at least a good

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30 minutes home. And I'm Drew, I get home and I'm drawing, just

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drenched, like, I have to change my shirt, I have to like shower

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because it's horrible how sweaty I was afterwards. But it got me

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into the, it started getting that like positivity. So I

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would, I would continue walking like if I didn't, I tried to get

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a walk and it was 15 minutes every day. And it was helping, I

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also started losing weight, I started fasting doing

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intermittent fasting, you know, and it started bringing my, my

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mental awareness and the therapy helped. But then I kind of had a

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little crash when COVID had because while I was doing this,

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I had to deal with the the insurance company for my short

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term ins.

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If you break an arm, they're like, Alright, cool. You're off

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for like six weeks or whatever, we're cool. Don't have to deal

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with you again. I had had my appendix taken out at the front

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when I was working at the same company years earlier. And

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they're like, Okay, so what did your doctor say? Um, I said, my

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doctor said this amount of time, you know, how, what's the pain?

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101 to 10 all this? Like, okay, we agree with what your doctor

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says you can have that time off and I never heard from them

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again. I received my money from my paid, but I never heard from

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them again, even when I went back to work never heard from

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them. When I went on burnout, I heard from them at least three

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to four times a month. And I was like, the first time she's like,

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Okay, well, since you're doing so well, and you're getting all

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all all better. We think you should be coming. We're gonna

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give you the documents, you can go see your doctor, and we'll

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we'll put you back to work. And I'm like, Are you fucking

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serious? Do you have a medical degree? By the way? Do you have

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any medical degree? No, you don't have a medical degree,

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then what makes you think that I'm ready when I have two

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medical professionals who are saying that I'm not. I'm like, I

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lost it on I my dad was in the apartment. He couldn't believe

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how I was talking because I was talking to this person who

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technically controls money coming into my life. And I'm

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like talking to her talking to this lady. Like she's a, like

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the worst human being alive. She was just doing her job. But I

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was Nowhere. Nowhere near ready. Like if if anything, that bill

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explosion that I did with her should have cemented in her

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mind. Like, no, he needs two months. He's messed up. And I

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told her I'm like, if I go back to work, because you guys want

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me to go back to work. And I burned out a second time. I am

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suing you. I'm suing your manager. And I'm suing your

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fucking company, as well as the company I work for because it's

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fucking bullshit that you're forcing someone on a medical

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leave of absence from a doctor who's been in the industry. I

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just she's like, Well, if your doctor Sir sir sir. She's trying

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to calm me down after like lighting a fuse. And it wasn't

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happening. Like my fuse was so short. That within seconds it

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would go off like the littlest inconvenience would set me off

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into like a rage for some reason. So like, I was on full

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rage, and my dad's just looking at me, I'm like, he's like, do I

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have to take the phone away from my son? Like, this is going to

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be a really awkward situation. If I have to take the phone away

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from my son and say, ma'am, we're going to call you back,

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like What the hell's wrong with you, but I ended up like,

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showing, like, just send me the documents and I'm going to get

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it taken care of, I can't fucking believe this. And I hung

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up on her and I call my therapist right away. I was

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like, I need help. And she was in a session. So I'm like, Hey,

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Doc, that I explained what happened, give me a call back I

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just I need to talk. And so within like 1020 minutes, she

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calls me back and by that had helped calm me down. But I was

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still like, my, my energy was just all over the place. And

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she, she she she talked to me, she's like, I understand this is

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really weird. They usually wait at least a month before they

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start being assholes. And they're kind of being assholes a

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little too early. Just like don't worry, I'll be writing a

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letter to your doctor, he's going to put it into the file.

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So like, we're covering me we're taking care of you and I was

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like, Thank God like someone's on my side Like I feel like I

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have a teammate here and end up they end up getting the

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documents the doc they levy for the two months. And I I feel I

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should have took three in like Hindsight is 2020 I should have

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took three months not two because three months would have

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been like I would have got to 75 and I would have been in a

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better place. But I took the I took the two months got to a

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place where I was like okay, I can handle stuff. I have some

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tools in my repertoire from talking with my therapist and

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you know thinking and meditating and working out and losing

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weight I was in I was like I started to switch and I was like

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you know what I need to figure a way to get out of this nine to

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five job like I can't do nine to five anymore because it's

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killing me it's it's the it's draining me of all energy like I

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go to work, I come home and I don't want to do anything. And

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it's like, no, I need to do something I need to stay active,

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I need to keep me stimulated, and Netflix and chill my whole

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life away. So I started researching how to be, you know,

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like affiliate marketing, email, list marketing, digital

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marketing, all these different things. And I realized I'm like,

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I don't know how to do this. I don't know how to be an

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entrepreneur, I don't know how to run my own business. I don't

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know anything about that. My whole family, the whole lives

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have been nine to fivers, the closest to an entrepreneur in my

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life was my father. And he worked for an insurance company.

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So you worked on the commission. So even then, that wasn't an

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entrepreneurial life, he was still kind of like, he's he has

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this big company behind him. So he has that reputation. He's now

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working on his own reputation. So I started my my second

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podcast, invest in yourself, the digital entrepreneur podcast

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strictly for me to find out how to be an entrepreneur. So I

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started talking with other entrepreneurs and interviewing

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them. And then I started my company last year, earlier this

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year, I landed client after client, so like, I'm happy

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there. But the biggest lesson I learned from like my burnout,

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and talk with entrepreneurs is like, you need to talk to people

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like you cannot keep everything inside. Because if you keep

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everything inside, you're just, it's, it's like that. I don't

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know if it's a Buddhist saying, but it's like holding a hot

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coal, waiting to someone, the only person you're hurting is

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you holding that hot coal, or you're trying to poison someone

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by drinking the same poison that they are, they're taking, like,

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negativity is going to happen, bad things are going to happen.

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But if you concentrate on that, you're just hurting yourself,

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you have to look for the good in every situation, every bad

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situation in my life, like I look at it. I'm looking back on

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the last two years of my life. If my girl if my ex didn't break

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up with me, we wouldn't be having this conversation. We

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wouldn't have been a guest on my podcast, I wouldn't have learned

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how to build my own business, I wouldn't have dropped 80 pounds

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to be 220. You know, I wouldn't have gotten the help I needed to

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build the tools to help me when I do you face difficulties. And

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so I look back at it, like, yes, it was a low point in my life.

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But also, it was the moment that I decided I'm taking control of

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my life, I'm going to be doing exactly what I want to do for

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the rest of my life, and I'm going to work on it. And my life

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has like, I would never have thought I would have gotten to

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where I am today. Three years ago, like if I said, if someone

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told me three years ago that I would be running my own

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business, I'd have media credentials to go to a huge

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event in France. I'd be talking on podcasts and talking with

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multi millionaires, business owners, entrepreneurs,

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influencers, people that I admire, sports owners, you know,

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sports team owners like I, I would be like, you don't know

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what you're talking about. And it all came from that. That

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argument that the most lowest point of my life, when I was

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arguing with my mother, around my birthday in 2019, because if

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I didn't have that moment, nothing else would have

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happened, I would have probably just continued down a spiral of

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despair. Who knows maybe become an alcoholic maybe become a drug

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user. I don't know like something to escape the mundane

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or the, the negativity of my life. And it was probably one of

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the best things to happen to me. Because it just it the domino

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effect that came from it, the positive that came from it

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outweighs that little did that happen, you know, like, it is?

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It is my life. I'm so happy that it happened. And it's weird to

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say that because like you're happy this negative event

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happened to Yes, because if I didn't have that negative event,

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none of the positive stuff that I've had have, would have come

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through like I am now doing a 30 day challenge to journal for 30

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days, workout for 30 days, go for an hour walk each day for 30

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days. And I'm videotaping it because I want to show like,

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look, this is what happens when you do a 30 day challenge. Like

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here is video ever every day I'm doing it so that people can see

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like the self improvement can be. So the 30 Day Challenge is

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so important. This is why I'm doing it. I want to show people

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that hey, look, here's 30 days worth of like videos of me doing

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push ups, sit ups and planking as well as walking every day and

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being sweaty as I am now. I don't know why I'm so sweaty

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right now. It's not that hot. But I guess it's because I'm

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sharing. It's something that's really funny. And my therapist

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actually that she's like, whenever you share something

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that's really personal, Phil, you get really sweaty. So I know

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that you're doing it you're doing something good because

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you're sweating

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so hard. It is so hard and there's a reason why so many

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people choose to not walk that path right And I'm just so

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amazed on how like, never anyone before you, like went so deep

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into the story and, and I could really feel your anger and feel

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your desperation and everything and it is so beautiful. And then

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yeah, I talk a lot about how some people, you know how

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there's trees, maybe in Montreal as well, they have to go, the

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seeds have to go through frost or through fire in order to

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germinate. And you're one of one of those people who had to walk

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through hell, by himself, right, your nephew help but that was an

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outside source, you found the source within yourself, and you

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walked your path. And you are now getting healthier with every

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day probably and to share this, to share that. Yeah, you are

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grateful now for for all that happened is only possible

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because you can see where it led to you. And for people who are

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still fighting depression, who are still fighting with their

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heartbreak and stuff, it is so hard to see. But with this

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interview, I will try to show people Yes, but keep going.

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Believe in yourself and know that the impossible is going to

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be possible soon. And I'm so grateful that we connected and

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that you shared. So in depth here because I feel people

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people will be very motivated and feel empowered by your story

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here.

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I am just so thankful that I can share it you this is the first

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time I probably went in to depth about the whole situation about

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where I started in my past like not a lot of people know about

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my past. Not a lot of people know, like I mentioned that I

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had a burnout and certain things happen. But I never really went

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into depth about like my story. Thank you for you, I'm grateful

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that I have the opportunity to share my story, but also

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grateful that we connected because I don't think I would

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have the opportunity on any other podcast to have this, this

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chance to share my story to help others heal from from their

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trauma, because we all have trauma, we all have baggage we

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all there's no such thing as the perfect individual. There's no

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such thing as the perfect partner or anything like that.

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And if you think your partner's perfect, they're probably

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perfect for you. But they're not perfect in life. You know, you

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have to have a partnership you need to build and you need

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teamwork. And it takes a community to like they say it

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takes a community to raise a child, but it takes a community

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to raise a human. Like you're always learning you're always

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growing as an individual, like science shows that every seven

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years your your cells change, like they go off and new cells

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come in. So you're not the same person I will I'm not the same

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person I was seven years ago, genetically, like, genetically I

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can pretty much say I am not the same person or go. But mentally

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I can say I'm not the same person I was. Yeah. So

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yeah, I feel like even if you were talking to your parents, or

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maybe your ex, I don't know, if you're still in contact with

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her. You have a different identity today, you identify

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yourself through other things and you, you let old fill in the

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past and new fill is growing bigger and healthier and

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supporting others. And the most important thing is not seeing a

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victim and hence himself but a warrior, right. You don't sound

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like a warrior. You have like, you're totally authentic with

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your pain, you you're validating it. But at the same time you are

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not a victim. And then when you talk about your insurance, I

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feel they experienced I don't want to protect them, but they

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experienced so many people who are you know, burned out and

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depressed. And then they realize, oh my god, this is

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actually awesome. I get so much attention and I don't have to go

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to work again. And not to say everybody else does.

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There are people that abuse it and I know they're right.

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But but to they have to learn to be more sensitive for fuck sake.

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Like it cannot be that a person opens up is ready to go to

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therapy and to do everything in his power. And then to be

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treated like this, like this system has to change radically.

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Because I feel after COVID We're gonna have so much many more

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like depressed people and people who want to change their

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lifestyle and we have to have a system that is ready to receive

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and to support these people. And this is what I'm trying to do

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here. I'm trying to create a platform where people can just

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bleed everything out and help others to feel less alone in in

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this mess. We're all in this together as cliche as it sounds,

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but you're living proof that it It is possible to help yourself

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and you do the 30 day challenge, and I just have so much respect

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for you, Phil I, yes, blown away.

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I'm blown away, because you're doing this, you're you

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obviously, when we spoke on my podcast, you explained how you

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started this podcast, as a way for you to heal, you moved in

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and you realized, I'm healing but there's other people who are

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hurting just like me. And so you gave them the opportunity to

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come on, and share their views share their pain, so that they

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can release it and not hold it in anymore. And be like, it's

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okay. Like, this is a safe place you can share, no one's gonna

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judge, if you've had a burnout or you've had an issue with, you

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know, in your relationships or anything like that you're

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you're, you're open and you're safe. It's a safe place. I

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think, even though the the BS about oh, the new generation

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needs safe places and all this, I, it's not that we need a safe

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place. We just need a place that we can sit down and we can

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release, and then not have the outside world and the pressure

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from the outside world pushing in on us. Because the world

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where previous generations grew up isn't the same world we're in

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now. It's completely different. Before we would only have to

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look at a magazine and we'd see the buff person and be like,

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Okay, that's fine. I don't have to look at that magazine. I'm

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fine. You know, for your, your mental being about how you're

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supposed to look like I've always been like, I'm pissed off

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at how I've always looked. And I've been told yes, I know. It's

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weird. I've been told Oh, you're so cute. You're handsome this

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and that. And but for me, it's like, no, I want to look like

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you know, rock the rock, or you know, like Vin Diesel or

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something like rip to shreds the muscles, you know, seven foot,

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you know, because when you're on Tinder or your everyday, if

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you're under six foot, don't even bother talking to me. And

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it's like, well, there's a lot of guys under six foot that are

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great people like I have a great personality. And one of the

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things I always had a problem with is my looks and my weight

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has always been an issue for me. And surprisingly, I've been able

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like the women I've been able to date and be with their trusted,

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gorgeous. And I'm like how? So I always pictured it to be I

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always thought it was because I have a great personality

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timeout. Yes. Okay, go ahead. Compliment me away. Go ahead.

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No, no, no, no, I'm not gonna give you what you get from

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everybody else. Anyways, that's not so cute. No, man. There's a

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there's a bunch of women awakening right now. And

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learning and realizing that it is an energy thing. It is the

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looks, of course, at first, but it is an energy thing. And let

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me tell you Vin Diesel, the rock. And you, you guys have

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very similar energies, you have similar purpose, or they're in

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society. So don't worry about your looks, just worry about

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shining your light and sharing your story that you're doing

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right now. And you're going to draw in one goddess after the

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other. But it is not about the looks anymore. And I'm so happy

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to see that shift happening. Of course, when you're on Tinder.

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You choose to connect with people, there might be expection

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exceptions, that are still very old fashioned to say, and you

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know, but there is people out there and they will not be on

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Tinder who know how to cut through that bullshit shed and

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to see the energy, the soul and who that person really is. And I

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hope you can let go of these. Yeah,

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it's a work in progress. You know, I, I do realize like, I

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know, I have a great personality because I my friends told me I

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have a great personality. I know. I know I do. Because I've

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worked on my personality, because I always thought of

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myself not as the the sexy guy or the you know, the the good

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looking guy. I've always been like the funny best friend, if

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you will. So I know my personality is like magnetic to

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all and because I love talking, I love sharing love learning

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about people and I can tell a joke, relatively funny. So I

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have that ability, and it's just getting past these stupid mental

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block of society saying you have to be six, four, you have to be

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chiseled. You have to be this you have to be that and just

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rely upon looks. And I know, even with age, like it's true

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that when you're 99 years old, you're not going to look the

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same as you were when you were 20 or 3030 years old. So it's

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trying to get past that I'm like, looking at these amazingly

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beautiful women I like I look at my past. And I'm like, if I can

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get them from my winning personality that I can get like

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I can attract the perfect woman and each one of my, my ex

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girlfriends, they taught me something. They taught me

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exactly what kind of relationship that I want and

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It's been amazing. And the last relationship actually, last

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year, I found out that my, she was like, so when I was dating,

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we were in the same circle of friends when we started dating.

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And when I when we broke up, someone that I thought was one

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of my best friends started dating my ex. And I didn't find

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out that they were dating until six months later, after they

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started dating. And at the time, I was like, okay, it's fine. I

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don't care. It's like six months, it's fine, then I find

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out that it was like it was six months prior that they started

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dating. And I was like, Why didn't you come to me first?

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Like, I am not going to stop you from dating. I can't I have no

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right to do that. But like, looking at it as a guy to guy

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it's like, that's you ask for like you just like, hey, do you

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have a problem with this? And obviously, I would have been

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like, probably would have said no, or go ahead. I don't, I

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don't care. But the fact that they kept it a secret, that's

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what hurt the most. And it's like it stabbed me. And I ended

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up talking with my therapist about it. And she's like, you

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know, it's fine, this and that. And so, what I did was very

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simple. I just cut them out of my lunch. I was like, You know

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what, no, I don't need them anymore. And I told the guy

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because I still cared deeply for her. Regardless of what has

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happened between us. We shared seven years of our lives

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together and had an amazing time we I visited Europe with her I

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visit I went to Cuba for the first time with her like I have

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a lot of amazing memories from being with her like she she

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bought me tickets to the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, my favorite

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college football. And she bought me that for my birthday. And it

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was like, oh my god, this is amazing. I'm going to go and see

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my team. This is my something that connects me to my

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grandfather. Because he was a huge Notre Dame fan. When he

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came over from Scotland. He was like I'm he found out about

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Notre Dame, he's like, boom, Notre Dame for life. So like,

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that's the connection I have with my grandfather, I got to

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see them play. And I was like, oh my god, this is amazing. So I

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have all these amazing memories from her. And even though that

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event, most people will let a taint the whole relationship. I

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can't let it taint the relationship because there's too

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much positivity in that relationship. Even if the last

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year was the worst year of our relationship. It still doesn't

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outweigh the other that we had. And so I told the guy I was

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like, Look, I fucking hate you for what you did. However, as

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long as you keep her happy, we're good. You hurt her in any

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way. I will kill you. Because that's how much love I had for

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her and like the she I don't know how to explain it. It's,

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it's, for me, I've always been a protector, like I've always

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wanted to protect people help people make them better, or just

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take away their pain. And it's even even with other girlfriends

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further in the past I even like, I may not be 100% in contact

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with them or connected to them. But when I see their successes

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because of mutual friends, I celebrate it. Because it's like,

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yes, go ahead.

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Isn't that way more important than a couple of muscles on your

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butt?

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I know it's it's it's more important it's it's the duality

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of of my life. Like I'm trying to fight against society's

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concept of what it is to be the perfect man quote unquote. And

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what it is that you are, you're already the perfect person, you

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just need to fine tune yourself and don't worry about if you're

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not 100 per like, I've worked on my internal so much that I know

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it outshines my perceived external looks. And I guess it's

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also it comes from me still being like, like thinking that

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I'm 300 pounds. And I'm just visualizing like, whenever I

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think of like someone who's 300 pounds, I'm thinking like, my

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600 600 pound life, you know, or the Biggest Loser stuff like

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that. And I'm like, I would never get to 300 pounds and then

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all of a sudden here I am. Here I am at the end of 2019 300

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pounds. I've put on 100 pounds. I looked disgusting, I feel

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disgusting. I have no energy, my mental capacity is is destroyed.

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And now I'm looking back. I'm looking now and I'm like, I may

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not look but I can look like Vin Diesel or as close to Vin Diesel

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as possible. I may not be that seven foot or six foot giant of

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a man that most women want but I don't want a woman who wants a

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guy who's six foot because that's already right there. The

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relationship is starting off in a negative foot because I don't

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need her I Tyria if you will, I, I, as much as I look for looks

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are important, because obviously you have to be attracted to your

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partner, I'm looking more for that deeper connection, that

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energy, because I know that is the what's more important that

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energy, that the value connection. And because you can

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end up falling in love with someone, no matter what they

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look like. But if you can't fall in love with who they are as a

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person, then you're never going to be happy in your

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relationship. And I, I've learned that I can't change

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anybody. And obviously people can't change who I am. Because

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it's you won't feel authentic. But I do want to find a partner

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that wants to change or be better or constantly looked at

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be a better person. Either, it's being a better cook, being a

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better mother, being a better lover being a better, you know,

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friend, being a better, you know, employee or just having a

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better body like, always look, life, so that they're always

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there. They're they're looking to Matthew McConaughey actually

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says this, he's like, I'm thankful for two people, I'm

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thankful. I'm thankful for my family. But I'm also I'm always

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looking to that person in five years, and I'm hoping to be that

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person in five years. So I, I'm like, I look at that now I have

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a five year plan, I know where I want to be in five years, I want

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to be a billionaire. I want to be a billionaire in five years.

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So I'm putting in the work now, to get there. Like, obviously,

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if I don't hit a billion dollars, I'm not going to cry

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myself. If I hit a million dollars, I'll be happy as all

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ends. But like my five year goal, I want to hit that and

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like that's the target I have, I have other targets as well in my

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life that I want to hit. And I think having those targets in

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your life and actively trying to hit them being happy as if you

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get close to those targets. Be happy, like I had the stupid not

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to stupidity. But when I was younger, I was like, I'm going

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to be married, I'm gonna have a house, I'm gonna have kids all

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by the time I'm 30 you know, and here I am 35 going on 36. And I

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have no relationship. I have no kids. I have no house. But on

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the flip side, I run my own business. I am the healthiest

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I've been my mind is the in happy place. I have amazing

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group of people that I'm connecting with in France and

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Macedonia and Australia in England. And it's this in the

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states across Canada. And it's just this Yeah, like yourself,

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or, or and it's, it's been an honor to talk with you. And I

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feel like I've been talking for non stop for like, eight years.

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But yeah, I've learned that that's more important than any

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monetary amount that you can have. Because if you have unity

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that's around you to support and I had to build my community I

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had to build and bring in the people and attract the people

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that I wanted in my life that are trying to improve their life

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or looking to help others improve their life. Because that

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inspires me to keep pushing forward towards my goals. And

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it's true if you five to 10 people that you have in your

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life and you surround yourself with are going to influence your

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life. So if you're if you want to be a millionaire, find

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millionaires if you want to be a billionaire, find billionaires

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if you want to, you know if you want to be an entrepreneur,

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surround yourself with entrepreneurs and be and

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celebrate their wins. Regardless, if you're you have a

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win to celebrate, celebrate every single win that you have

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from your because that they're going to celebrate your wins

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just as much. So if anything, that's what I want to leave off

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on, celebrate wins, celebrate everyone's wins. Like there's

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we're in an age where everybody there's abundance everywhere.

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You can find your your perfect dream, you have the internet,

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you have access to stuff that generations ago, no one had

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access to you have knowledge at the tip of your finger tips that

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can help you become whatever you want to be if you want to learn

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how to crochet, there's probably 1000 YouTube channels on how to

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crochet and you're going to find someone that can be your mentor.

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And so you subscribe to them and you've learned from them. Like I

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had the opportunity to interview an amazing podcaster for one of

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my shows. And he's and through that connection. He's going to

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be putting me in touch with an OG podcaster. Someone who's been

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in the industry for so long, who's monetize who's huge as a

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podcaster. I'm like, Oh my God, this would be like a dream come

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true. Like, I have a couple people on my list. And he's up

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there. He's in my top 10 of people I want to interview

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because it's like, this is a guy who's done it like this is a guy

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who started podcasting created an empire pretty much from it.

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And now is like, considered the name in podcasting. And I'm

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like, oh my god, this is amazing. If I get the

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opportunity to even have a five minute conversation with him, I

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will lose my mind. Just because it's like this chance to connect

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on someone who, who's doing the same thing or is further along

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in their career. I'd started where I am. Hmm. Just an amazing

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opportunity to create that tribe of people around you, that can

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help you grow.

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Yeah. Yeah, I that's so beautiful. Very, very inspiring.

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Phil, thank you so much for making the time here and

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sharing, like your story, but then also the tools that you use

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to help yourself out and then to go on and inspire people to, to

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follow their dreams and their passion. And yeah, you totally

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nailed it. Thank you so much.

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Oh, it was my pleasure. I can't thank you enough for giving me

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this opportunity. And actually, I have to thank you, because I

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feel uplifted, having been able to share my story with stuff

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that I've never shared before with anybody. Yeah. Which is

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really, really weird. Because we've only known each other just

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like maybe like, what, three weeks not even a year I am like

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pouring out my life story to you, and to your audience and

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just sharing with them. And it's not nothing to be ashamed of.

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Because sharing the your pains, sharing your struggles, sharing

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your failures are just as important as sharing your, your

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your your happy moments. Because if you share those happy moments

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and not sharing the pain, you're going to you're going to poison

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yourself, you're going to poison all those happy moments that you

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have, because you're not releasing that negativity, and

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keeping that negativity in you. And I truly believe I've started

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believing in the law of attraction and you know,

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manifesting the future. Because if you have that goal in mind,

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I'm going to be a billionaire. I'm going to be a billionaire,

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you're going to work towards that goal, you're going to bring

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it to you and you're gonna connect with people that can

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help you and I never seen, I always say yes, if someone gives

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me an opportunity. I'm like, yes, let's do it. Like, hey,

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Phil, do you want to be on my podcast? Yes, I have no idea

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what your podcast is about, but I'll be on it. Because I don't

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know who's listening to that. Yeah. And that person could

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contact me and be like, hey, I want to be on your podcast. And

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then I'm part of their network. Yeah. And their network could

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lead me to, you know, one of my top like, like, I got one of my

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top 10 interviews, potentially, just from this one interview

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that I had, I mean, he has a connection to that world that I

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don't have. So being in his network and celebrating his wins

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and that other people will see and want to connect with me. So

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it's just the law of attraction the manifestation or manifesting

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your destiny is true, it does happen. It does work. You just

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have to. It's just It works on its own timetable. You can

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control the timetable, it will come to you. When you are ready.

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The world will test you. Oh, so much. And see if you're ready to

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receive the gift. That's all I know. You will be I'm still

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being tested, day in and day out. And I still I allow the

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negativity in my life. I go yes, I acknowledge you being

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negative. But on the flip side, what's the positive of this? I

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dealt with this already. Okay, I can deal with that. That's fine.

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Goodbye. Now. Let's look at the positive. Let's move on to the

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better part of life. Yeah.

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Yeah. Very, very powerful closing here. Phil, thank you so

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much. Thank you.

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All right. It was my pleasure to share some time and my story

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with you and some little bit of wisdom that I have.

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Yeah. That was wonderful. Yeah, I hope you got a lot of value

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out of this episode. I was very pleased to see that. Yeah, Phil

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was opening up so much and sharing his whole story. It

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takes a lot to share. So vulnerably and bold, and I

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deeply respect that. Make sure to check out Fildes podcast,

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contact him on Facebook. He's a very open and fun person to talk

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to. Thank you so much for listening. Make sure to

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subscribe to this podcast. And leave us a review if you enjoyed

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this. Until next time. Bye bye