Joel Byers

What's goody?

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Hot breath of Earth.

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Welcome back.

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It is Hot Breath Live, your weekly comedy tune up with comedians Joel Byers and Yoshi.

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Sorry about him, but this is the weekly live stream we do on our YouTube channel where we answer your questions directly.

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So join our email lists and I'll send you a weekly reminder of this awesome meeting we do, all in the name of comics helping comics.

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And today we got a very special episode, Yoshi and I.

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First off, Yoshi, if you not.

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If you haven't seen his special yet on the hot breath YouTube channel, you gotta go check that out.

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American, African.

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Yeah, go check that out.

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And also I want to say congratulations to Hot Breath OG Bobby Sutton.

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She's going to be in Vegas.

Yoshi

Nice.

Joel Byers

For the Keenan Thompson Pop up Comedy Festival.

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So anyone in Vegas, pull up on Jimmy Kimmel's Comedy Club.

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That's very cool.

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Love seeing the hot breath of verse out here doing dope things.

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That's what it's all about.

Yoshi

I love that.

Joel Byers

And speaking of hot breath verse, Yoshi and I had great show this past week at the New Helium in Atlanta.

Yoshi

Yeah, let's talk about it.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Super dope.

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Several hot breathers.

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I tell you, there were.

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There were several hot breathers in the building.

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I.

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I don't forget.

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But it's like when you meet.

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Yeah.

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And when people.

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Yeah, when you meet people, they're like, oh, my gosh, hot breath.

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It's helped me in X, Y and Z.

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And thank you so much.

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And then you're like, oh, yeah, we are.

Yoshi

We've been out here.

Joel Byers

Yeah, we're doing things.

Yoshi

Doing things.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

About once a week when I go to a open mic or something, I get a stop and people are.

Yoshi

I haven't heard anyone say, hey, that Hot Breath Network trash.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

And we've been doing it for a while and the opportunities to say that are abound and plenty.

Yoshi

But not once has anyone said that.

Yoshi

All I've gotten is nothing but positive feedback about how much we have helped, how much resources that people have gotten from it.

Yoshi

People listen regularly, which is freaking amazing.

Yoshi

I get stopped and people are like, hey, that last episode, they'll ask more questions.

Yoshi

I was like, yeah, of course I'll answer the question.

Yoshi

So it's been awesome.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

So that show that we did at the Helium was awesome.

Yoshi

Lots of.

Yoshi

Lots of fans, let's put it that way.

Yoshi

Tons of fans.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

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And I was talking with Daniel Delano, a comic who was also on the show this past week.

Joel Byers

He's been Doing a lot of festivals this year.

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And he said every festival he's gone to, someone has asked him if they know Hot Breath because we're in Atlanta.

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So that's pretty cool.

Yoshi

That's very cool.

Yoshi

That's very cool.

Joel Byers

Actually.

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He said if they know Joel Byers.

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But I didn't want to make you feel bad.

Yoshi

Okay.

Joel Byers

But it was Hot breath.

Yoshi

I'm good with it.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I don't want to make you feel bad.

Joel Byers

So I decided to say it anyway.

Joel Byers

That's really what it was.

Yoshi

Completely.

Yoshi

I'm completely good with it.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

But, yeah, so I thought that was cool, too, that a lot of people at festivals.

Joel Byers

So, yeah, it's just.

Joel Byers

It's very cool to.

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Just to see it all coming together.

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It's so exciting.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So thank you all for listening and sharing it.

Joel Byers

And when you're out at shows and you're talking to other comics and you say, have you heard of Hot Breath?

Joel Byers

And you mention an interview or the live stream we do on Tuesdays, it just all.

Joel Byers

It all helps, and it all adds up.

Yoshi

Yeah, it does.

Yoshi

Yes.

Joel Byers

So us.

Yoshi

And we're happy to do it.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Oh, absolutely.

Joel Byers

Yeah, for sure.

Joel Byers

And as.

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As I have a child, I will be happy to do more.

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I'm gonna lock myself in this room and never leave.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Yoshi

I remember this one time Joel said, hey, you want to not do it on Tuesday?

Yoshi

I was like, no, no, no, no.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

You're like, no, this is my time.

Yoshi

No, no, no, no.

Joel Byers

This is my time.

Yoshi

I.

Yoshi

I not only do I enjoy this, it's also good.

Yoshi

It's.

Yoshi

It's just good time.

Yoshi

Sometimes you gotta set precedents and let people know Daddy is busy at this time.

Joel Byers

That's right.

Yoshi

No Daddy questions.

Yoshi

I'm a comedian right now.

Yoshi

I'm gonna do the comedian thing at this time.

Yoshi

So, yeah, it's been awesome.

Joel Byers

Oh, and we got some good questions already coming in the live chat here, but I did just want to shout out all the hot breathers we saw at the show this weekend and at Helium in Atlanta, which.

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Amazing, Amazing, amazing club.

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Amazing, amazing.

Yoshi

Yeah, absolutely.

Joel Byers

The lineup's coming through.

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I mean, anyone in the Southeast not far from, like, the Atlanta area, it's worth driving in for.

Joel Byers

They're bringing in the heat.

Joel Byers

Shouty heaters.

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Heat.

Yoshi

Heavy hitters.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

From the jump.

Yoshi

Great people.

Yoshi

And I think, like.

Yoshi

I mean, I remember, like, maybe, like, first week that was out, I was like, okay, they've got a pretty solid schedule.

Yoshi

And then, like, days later, that schedule has filled up.

Yoshi

I mean, it's like weekend after weekend, a lot of one nighters as well.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

That.

Yoshi

That schedule is filling up and so, yeah, as I'm.

Yoshi

Here's the thing.

Yoshi

I live less than 10 minutes away from that place.

Joel Byers

Oh, that's beautiful.

Yoshi

I think I've literally been there probably like four or five nights since it's opened.

Yoshi

But I like that because I like hanging out at the, at the comedy club.

Yoshi

So before I had to like schedule out and ask for like, you know, hey, I'm gonna be gone for the next two hours versus I'll just stop in for like a couple minutes and then go home.

Yoshi

Which is awesome.

Joel Byers

Yeah, Just put your face there.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

So.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

I was gonna say, speaking of Hot breath, I got to.

Joel Byers

The next night after our show, I got to work with Moses Storm, who was.

Joel Byers

Is a fan of hot breath as well.

Yoshi

Nice.

Yoshi

So you opened the show that.

Yoshi

That's the show that you opened?

Joel Byers

I did.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

How was that show?

Joel Byers

Oh, it was super dope.

Joel Byers

He's.

Joel Byers

He's a wild man.

Joel Byers

You know, he's like.

Joel Byers

He's.

Joel Byers

If you remember my.

Joel Byers

When I used to host the Java monkey show on the coffee shop patio.

Yoshi

Yes.

Joel Byers

Did a bunch of weird stuff and rubbed the walls and rolled around the floor.

Joel Byers

He's like, if I honed that and did it in a way that people actually enjoyed and it was entertaining and not like a mental breakdown.

Joel Byers

Like, I've been a fan of Moses for years now and his special, he has an HBO special called like Trash White.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Which is incredible.

Joel Byers

About his story of growing up homeless and dumpster diving and all that funness he found humor in.

Joel Byers

And just to say he opened up the show, he somehow ended up with an audience member shoe.

Joel Byers

And then he put a cheese stick in between their toe and took a bite of the cheese.

Joel Byers

Or he acted like he was going to take a bite.

Joel Byers

I don't think he actually took a bite.

Joel Byers

But all that happened.

Joel Byers

And these were like rich.

Joel Byers

They were on the front row.

Joel Byers

These were like rich whites that you would kind of expect to go with.

Yoshi

That's my favorite kind of white too.

Joel Byers

Exactly.

Joel Byers

That's also why I like helium, because it's in a rich part of town and that's my audience.

Joel Byers

But they were down from the beginning.

Joel Byers

Like he went weird from the jump and they followed him the whole way and he killed.

Joel Byers

He did over an hour.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So it was really cool to watch and just see the, the freedom on stage.

Joel Byers

And it's a good reminder for all of us to Remember that this is supposed to be fun.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I, I always have to remind myself of that.

Joel Byers

I mean, even in my set list, I write have fun in it.

Joel Byers

Every.

Joel Byers

Like I, I keep saying, oh, I gotta get this joke and I want to try this new tag and oh my gosh, the booker's in the back of the room and I gotta.

Joel Byers

And they gotta have fun and remember to lead with that intention and just to see Moses embody that and make that like, that's like his brand of comedy is.

Joel Byers

He is.

Joel Byers

You don't know what you're gonna get, but you know it's gonna be fun and funny in an adventure and it's just inspiring to see it done at a high level.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

He's got a Robin William esque like character to him, which is just fun to see because, you know, there's not a lot of those really around either of a stand up perspective.

Yoshi

So it's definitely like a refreshing thing to watch.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

I've watched the special as well and I was like, oh, wow.

Yoshi

Like, and I thought.

Yoshi

I was like, that is a lot.

Yoshi

Like, it's.

Yoshi

He's doing so much in my mind.

Yoshi

I was like, how are you not tired?

Yoshi

Like, that just looks exhausting.

Yoshi

But you could just tell he's having such a good time and everything flows and Which I truly like, appreciate.

Yoshi

It's like, oh, all this is like work.

Yoshi

He's working all these bits and they all like come in and out.

Yoshi

It looks like it's improv, but it's like, oh, this is very much owned jokes and I love that.

Joel Byers

And that's why in Conan, he's one of Conan's favorite comics.

Joel Byers

And like Conan's given him a lot of shine on his show and stuff just because of that.

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He's such a unique voice.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

I think Conan produced that special.

Joel Byers

Oh, he did.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

Good point.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Yoshi

Which is.

Yoshi

That's.

Yoshi

That's awesome.

Yoshi

That's a nice little executive producer tag that you can have.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So definitely go check out Moses Storm, his specials on HBO and you can watch clips on YouTube and he's done several late nights and things like that.

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So he's definitely one worth checking out.

Joel Byers

We were, we talked about doing the interview.

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We just did it.

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We couldn't make it happen.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it didn't happen the time.

Joel Byers

It just wasn't the right timing.

Joel Byers

I propose it just.

Joel Byers

I.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it just.

Joel Byers

Life.

Joel Byers

I.

Joel Byers

You can't.

Joel Byers

I can't just go for like.

Joel Byers

I can't just go.

Joel Byers

I can't be like oh yeah, I'll just be there.

Joel Byers

And I, I have like, like this family situation where I have to be around and accountable and write thank you notes to everyone that bought us all gifts off our registry, which we're very grateful for.

Joel Byers

So, so it was a lot of.

Joel Byers

There were family things I could not avoid to then go.

Joel Byers

But yeah, timing.

Joel Byers

I'm still grateful we got to hang out.

Joel Byers

I'm not as thirsty anymore, which feels good as well.

Joel Byers

Of like I gotta make sure I get this interview with this person.

Joel Byers

It was more about just connecting with them and hearing him say such nice things about the show and us kind of nerd out about comedy together and such.

Joel Byers

So that connection's worth more than trying to force an interview at this.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Well, congratulations on the show, man.

Yoshi

That's awesome.

Yoshi

So you did two shows?

Yoshi

Two shows at the Helium.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun.

Joel Byers

It was so much fun.

Joel Byers

And I saw Chicken Joe Clark ask if they give out a towner spots.

Joel Byers

Not with that name.

Yoshi

I don't know how it works when it comes to out of town comedians.

Joel Byers

They're doing an open mic every week now, but I don't know the signup process or any of that, but that's probably your best bet.

Yoshi

Yeah, and I mean I think one of the things about especially a club like this is they're just starting out so I don't know how much leeway they've got for stuff.

Yoshi

And I'll tell you just from a in town perspective, there's so many in town comedians that are like on the shows right now.

Yoshi

Which is awesome because you can see like the headliners are appreciative that the club has features and openers and things like that.

Yoshi

But I don't know, the out of town sort of drop in process.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, I don't either.

Joel Byers

I, yeah, they've been open literally maybe three weeks.

Yoshi

Yeah, exactly.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

They're just kind of getting up and running and ironing out the kinks and stuff.

Joel Byers

But it's, it's definitely worth at least going visiting.

Joel Byers

You know my, for sure my comic to watch of 2024, Caitlin Palufo, she'll be there at the end of December.

Joel Byers

So I don't, I don't know if I'll be able to make it.

Joel Byers

But she is, if you ever see her anywhere in your area, you gotta watch her.

Joel Byers

She is lights out, just hilarious.

Joel Byers

It's, it's, it's, it's awesome to see and depressing of like.

Joel Byers

Oh, you can be that good.

Yoshi

No, incredible.

Yoshi

Incredible joke writer and just, just a force.

Joel Byers

It's like a hurricane when she's up there.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

She's like Tasmanian devil when it comes to stage presence.

Yoshi

Dude.

Joel Byers

All killer, no filler.

Yoshi

All killer, no filler.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Lights out.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So let's get into these questions here.

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And if you are watching live do hit the like button on these.

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On these live streams.

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Let's.

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Let's get the algorithm going here.

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Okay.

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Let's.

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We're, we're really.

Yoshi

We're.

Joel Byers

Let's.

Joel Byers

Let's get into it.

Joel Byers

Hot breath verse.

Joel Byers

We got here together, we're gonna get there together.

Yoshi

Boom.

Joel Byers

Oh.

Joel Byers

We got here together and we're gonna get there together.

Joel Byers

That's pretty cool.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Bars.

Yoshi

Bars.

Joel Byers

Thank you.

Joel Byers

Oh, man, I have a feeling that's loud and I'm sorry.

Yoshi

Podcast, right?

Joel Byers

That was very loud.

Yoshi

Chicken Joe Clark actually said that there's a group of his that watches this show together, which is awesome.

Joel Byers

Oh, in Houston.

Joel Byers

Oh, that's cool.

Yoshi

Appreciate that.

Joel Byers

I'm sorry, I roasted your name.

Yoshi

Comedy.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Yoshi

We'Re still gonna roast you.

Yoshi

Thank you.

Yoshi

But we're still gonna do it.

Joel Byers

So.

Joel Byers

Yeah, hit the like button.

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Share this on Reddit or social media.

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Let's really start.

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Let's start building up this show here.

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Our wives greatly appreciate you and the first question I'm seeing here is from Mike Betancourt and he asks, what is your favorite notepad to write on?

Joel Byers

So if y'all don't know, we nerded out about pins last week we went in deep on pins and the analytics reflect that.

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But if you know, you know, shouty and we appreciate y'all that nerd out on pins.

Joel Byers

Honestly, my favorite, I mean, I just use like my daily use is like a, like a composition notebook, basically.

Joel Byers

I mean, it's just like one of those kind of black and white speckled composition books.

Joel Byers

I do have a, like a kind of a quote unquote fancier journal I will journal in.

Joel Byers

But that was like a, like a gift from my sister in law.

Joel Byers

But in my day to day, like joke writing, it's in like a composition notebook.

Joel Byers

And also when I go to shows, I use like a smaller notebook that I can fit in a pocket.

Joel Byers

Right now I'm, I got like a pack of like the moleskin kind of not fabric, paperback one kind of paperback ones.

Joel Byers

Yeah, they're just mobile, they bend, they're durable.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

And I'll just do my set list in there and I use, you know, the Zebra F301.

Joel Byers

That's kind of My.

Joel Byers

That's my go to at showtime unless I'm feeling fancy.

Yoshi

Okay.

Joel Byers

I don't like one thing I did recently.

Joel Byers

Sam Altman.

Joel Byers

Wait, Sam Altman?

Joel Byers

Yes.

Joel Byers

The open AI guy.

Joel Byers

Right.

Joel Byers

That's Sam Altman.

Joel Byers

I thought it said Sam Walton, which I think is the Walmart guy.

Yoshi

Yep, yep.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Yep.

Joel Byers

But I just saw a clip with him talking about his favorite notebook, and he likes the spiral notebooks because they'll lay flat.

Joel Byers

And because there is something with.

Joel Byers

When it's not spiraled, it does kind of, like, plump in the middle, and it can be kind of hard to get in all the way on the page.

Joel Byers

So there may be some to the spiral I need to revisit.

Yoshi

Nice.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

I don't know if I have a favorite notepad.

Yoshi

My thing, I.

Yoshi

I definitely write a lot on, like, I would say are, like, the index card notepad thingamajiggers.

Yoshi

I write a lot of my set list on those.

Yoshi

Like, just, like, little index cards.

Joel Byers

Okay.

Yoshi

On those things.

Yoshi

But when it comes to like, actual, like, jokes and when I write.

Yoshi

Right.

Yoshi

I've been in marketing for so long, so I just have this collection of just Chotzkis and old notebooks from old companies.

Yoshi

Like, I think I have, like, a Cialis notebook or something like that.

Joel Byers

Right.

Yoshi

Of just, like, random stuff, but I just have them.

Yoshi

So I would just use that notebook, write, like, the.

Yoshi

The year on it, and then write jokes for this year, and that's what I'll just be writing in.

Yoshi

So I usually try to separate out new jokes for different years, and that's, like, the only process that I have.

Yoshi

But I write with anything.

Yoshi

It doesn't matter.

Yoshi

Like, I don't have, like, a favorite feel of a notepad, but I'm just.

Yoshi

All the notebooks, and I have tons of notebooks that are just random from every conference that I've been in.

Yoshi

All these places that give you free stuff, like, from these different companies.

Yoshi

Some of them are still around, some of them are not still around.

Yoshi

And I'm just like, huh, what is this company?

Yoshi

No idea.

Yoshi

But they gave me a notebook at a conference in Louisiana one time.

Yoshi

That's what I'm using.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

I got.

Joel Byers

When I worked at the hotel, when I refilled mini bars, I would.

Joel Byers

A lot of the people that were there for conferences would leave all that kind of stationary stuff in the rooms when they left.

Joel Byers

So I.

Joel Byers

I have a collection of those as well.

Joel Byers

Of all those different.

Yoshi

Yep.

Joel Byers

Like a free notebook.

Yoshi

Mm.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

I don't know if anyone else has in the Live chat, favorite notebooks.

Joel Byers

But that's kind of the.

Joel Byers

The.

Joel Byers

The go to.

Joel Byers

I write in a bigger one, and then I'll take a smaller one out to show.

Yoshi

Yeah, that's what I do, too.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

I have a notion More, too.

Yoshi

Oh, I've been.

Yoshi

I've been Notion freak, and I have a separate notepad, but, yeah, yeah, I've been.

Yoshi

I've been.

Yoshi

I've been notion it up lately.

Yoshi

Like, it's been helping me organize, but I've got, like, an old note.

Yoshi

I use this tool called Up Note, because when I got it, it was, like, cheap, and it just has every.

Yoshi

All the notes.

Yoshi

I imported all my stuff from Evernote because I was a big Evernote person until they started charging, like, way too much money, or at least for me, and I was just like, all right, I'm gonna just use this.

Yoshi

And it organizes all my stuff.

Yoshi

It's how I wrote the special.

Yoshi

It's how I organize the special.

Yoshi

And that's.

Joel Byers

Oh, Up Note.

Yoshi

Yeah, up note.

Joel Byers

Oh, interesting.

Joel Byers

I have never heard of that.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, it's just a very, like.

Yoshi

It's a minimalist.

Yoshi

So I've been just trying to watch or, like, find, like, minimalist stuff because I realize I get way too distracted if something has too many features.

Yoshi

And this is just notes.

Yoshi

I was like, just notes.

Yoshi

Organize it in notebooks and tabs, and it just does exactly what I needed to do.

Joel Byers

Interesting.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Not heard of that one.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it's kind of.

Joel Byers

I mean.

Joel Byers

Yeah, we can all get lost.

Joel Byers

It's kind of like what you're going to use.

Joel Byers

You know, we can all get lost.

Yoshi

That's what I found, is that I was using so many different things, and so I imported everything into Upnote.

Yoshi

I was like, no more.

Yoshi

All the notes go in here.

Yoshi

And then I use notion just to organize my day.

Yoshi

So it doesn't.

Yoshi

So I've separated out my notebook from, like, my daily task and things like that.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I'm starting to.

Joel Byers

I've been testing notion for, like, daily writing tracking as well.

Yoshi

Oh, that's a good idea.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it's kind of.

Joel Byers

Because the whole goal of this cohort I'm doing Sunday is basically helping comics develop a daily writing habit that they take into 2025.

Joel Byers

So I'm trying to think of all the different ways it's like, oh, man.

Yoshi

What.

Joel Byers

What would help me?

Joel Byers

Like, what would.

Joel Byers

What would help other comics?

Joel Byers

So I'm trying to put together, like, a notion template for students as well, to kind of check in and organize your jokes.

Joel Byers

And kind of check off the day.

Joel Byers

Like Seinfeld's, how he has that don't break the chain strategy where he puts an X on a calendar.

Joel Byers

It's kind of the same premise.

Yoshi

So, yeah, I like that.

Yoshi

It's.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it's.

Joel Byers

It's.

Yoshi

Whatever.

Joel Byers

Whatever y'all are going to use is really the best.

Joel Byers

But the more accountability, the better to actually show up.

Yoshi

Boom.

Joel Byers

Oh, and Alvaro said calmly, writer is another one.

Yoshi

Nice.

Joel Byers

Ftw.

Joel Byers

Notion.

Joel Byers

Ftw.

Joel Byers

What is FTW for the win?

Yoshi

Basically, they're saying.

Joel Byers

Like an old man.

Joel Byers

What's that?

Joel Byers

Ftw.

Joel Byers

What's that?

Joel Byers

Ftw.

Yoshi

Yeah, I.

Yoshi

I have been so thoroughly impressed with Notion.

Yoshi

It is just good.

Yoshi

I mean, I think I used it at first to organize.

Yoshi

Like, I actually use it to organize my produced stuff.

Yoshi

So I have a database of all the comedians that I use, and I've got them literally tagged by the types of jokes.

Yoshi

Are they clean?

Yoshi

Are they dirty?

Yoshi

Can they do this kind of room, how many minutes I'm comfortable with them doing?

Yoshi

And then that's how I go through and organize who I want to put on a show.

Yoshi

So I've got that all organized in notion.

Joel Byers

Yeah, we talked about that with our AI episode with Mike Tadasco, which, if y'all have not heard, you gotta go listen to that podcast, because that was a banger.

Joel Byers

And we did a live writing session with AI and that was a winner for sure.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So we putting out.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I know.

Joel Byers

It's like it.

Joel Byers

You know, sometimes we forget we're doing so many cool things helping comics that we forget until we meet y'all in person and we're like, oh, yay.

Joel Byers

We appreciate the gratitude.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So speaking of, let's get to other comics questions here.

Joel Byers

We just nerded out.

Joel Byers

We almost just made a whole other episode about stationary again.

Joel Byers

We were.

Joel Byers

Last week was about pins, and now we're like, what.

Joel Byers

What about stationary?

Joel Byers

Maybe we get into card stock, different weights of paper.

Joel Byers

So Daphne Steinberg can potentially triggering comments like, your body, my choice, be spun to be funny in any way.

Joel Byers

Like joking about a cat and your face.

Yoshi

I would say.

Joel Byers

I think anything can.

Joel Byers

I think you can really spin anything to be funny if you absolutely pull it off with the right skill.

Yoshi

Absolutely.

Yoshi

I mean, I think anytime you hear things like that, I think it's always funnier to take it to a direction that people are not expecting it.

Yoshi

And I think that makes for a much more comedic.

Yoshi

Because at the end of the day, comedy is about surprise.

Yoshi

So obviously, some people might think you're going to go a certain way.

Yoshi

So when you would surprise them with a different avenue, that's what the open mic is for.

Yoshi

Try something that you see with my.

Yoshi

Your body, my choice.

Yoshi

See all the tags or see all the things that you want to write and see how it works in front of a real crowd.

Yoshi

And then go play with that later again, listen to it and see if you can find some more tags.

Yoshi

See if you can find some more ways.

Yoshi

I mean, just.

Yoshi

Just the way that you wrote the joke.

Yoshi

Your body, my choice.

Yoshi

With a cat and your face that feels funny already.

Yoshi

Like, I'd love to see where that goes.

Joel Byers

I think as long as it's not like, just making sure it's.

Joel Byers

Anytime you're trying to do a joke that could be potentially controversial or whatever, it's just making sure you're not punching down.

Yoshi

Boom.

Joel Byers

And that's a great kind of way to ensure.

Yoshi

Yes.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

And I warn comedians against this.

Yoshi

Like, I.

Yoshi

I sometimes feel like we get caught up in watching some types of comedians, like the Kill Tony like, universe, that are very, like.

Yoshi

I mean, I'll say that it's like, very mean.

Yoshi

It's very, like, just negative a little bit.

Yoshi

And it's very much like an ode to how much can I say to get away with it.

Yoshi

But I will also say, like, if you start writing that way, that becomes who you are and you're just not going to get booked a lot unless you have a fan base that is okay with that type of comedy.

Yoshi

It takes people a while to be like, okay with that level of comedy.

Yoshi

And as Anthony Jeselnik once said, if you are mean and you don't get away with it, that means you weren't funny enough.

Yoshi

And he's like the master.

Yoshi

He says very dark stuff and he gets away with it.

Yoshi

Allah.

Yoshi

That's why he's able to keep doing it years after years after years.

Yoshi

If you don't get away with it or somebody calls you out for it, that means it wasn't funny and it wasn't great writing at the end of the day.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

And it's always great.

Joel Byers

I mean, especially younger comics.

Joel Byers

It's kind of.

Joel Byers

You may aspire to tackle these taboo topics or to be edgy and whatnot, but it is very valuable to kind of learn the rules before you break them.

Joel Byers

So how can you make, you know, the weather funny or how can you make a joke about your dog or your job and kind of less edgy things, but just learning how to make certain things funny before you try to tackle these big topics?

Joel Byers

You kind of got to learn the technique and then you can apply it to these bigger, higher concepts.

Joel Byers

But it just takes time.

Yoshi

It takes time.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

But yeah, there is a whole movement with Kil Tony and comics outside of the context of Kill Tony.

Yoshi

Yes.

Joel Byers

Still think that it flies.

Joel Byers

And that Kill Tony is it's.

Joel Byers

It's its own.

Joel Byers

I mean, you know, they sold out Mass Square Garden twice.

Joel Byers

I mean, it's.

Joel Byers

It's its own, like, world.

Joel Byers

And outside of that world, all that offensiveness can be a little divisiveness, if you will.

Yoshi

For sure.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

And if.

Yoshi

And it.

Yoshi

And the reality is, if you're trying to work regularly as a comedian, your Kill Tony set, that only people at Kill Tony Love isn't going to work at every club, and not every club is going to book you because of that.

Yoshi

Unless you can pull in your same audience.

Yoshi

You know what I mean?

Joel Byers

So, yeah, unless you have the audience, which.

Yoshi

Unless you have the audience, then you can.

Yoshi

You write the same rule.

Yoshi

You write your rules the way that you want.

Yoshi

But if you're just starting out and you're doing that kind of material, it's just really hard for it to be like, massively appeal to a lot of people.

Joel Byers

But you do you boo.

Joel Byers

We're not telling you the right or wrong way, just kind of giving you some.

Yoshi

Yeah, we're just giving you some advice of what?

Yoshi

We've been doing this for hot minute now and we don't see.

Yoshi

We don't sink it.

Yoshi

We synced it.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

Which actually, speaking of getting booked, Chicken Joe Clark asks about EPKs.

Joel Byers

What should comics not leave out of an EPK?

Yoshi

That's a good question.

Yoshi

I can tell you what you should put in an EPK rather than what to leave out.

Joel Byers

Right.

Yoshi

In every epk, you want to put yourself a bio.

Yoshi

That's important.

Yoshi

Images of you.

Yoshi

Currently, how you look is also important.

Yoshi

Do not put Images of you 10 years ago unless you look very close to that now.

Yoshi

Right.

Yoshi

Like when people.

Yoshi

I've seen it where people would put old pictures of them damn near 20, 15 years ago.

Yoshi

And they get to a show and people are like, who is that guy?

Yoshi

So you mix it up.

Yoshi

Make sure you put like current pictures of yourself.

Yoshi

Not it doesn't have to be like weeks ago, but like six months or like even a year is a good.

Yoshi

So put pictures of yourself.

Yoshi

Put links to your actual sets, whether they be short, long, preferably short.

Yoshi

The majority of people that are looking for set list are looking for anything.

Yoshi

5, 7, 10, 15.

Yoshi

That's typically what they can tell and then if they ask you for like anything longer, then you send it to them.

Yoshi

But if you've got a 5 minute, a 10 minute and a 15 minute, that's typically enough for people.

Yoshi

You still there, Joel?

Yoshi

And then.

Yoshi

Yeah, the other thing I always say is also like reviews and.

Yoshi

Or what people say about you is also a good thing to put on there as well.

Yoshi

And then what's the last thing I'd probably say any kind of links or your like social links or social media and a way to contact you.

Yoshi

Those are the most important things to put on your epk.

Joel Byers

Oh yeah, And I was just pulling up mine.

Yoshi

Yeah, there you go.

Joel Byers

Just to show.

Joel Byers

But it's like.

Joel Byers

So mine has like my contact and name and title and like kind of a bio and a review from a past company and then I'll share this more with like companies and such.

Yoshi

For sure.

Joel Byers

I don't, it's not like I, I don't.

Joel Byers

It's not like I'm sending this to a club or whatnot.

Joel Byers

I guess it doesn't hurt.

Yoshi

Yeah, clubs EPKs are usually different.

Yoshi

Like this is a very corporate EPK where.

Yoshi

Club EPKs.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Yoshi

They want to know what other clubs you've worked at.

Yoshi

Right.

Yoshi

Like they look more for like validation.

Yoshi

Oh, have you done this in other places or in other spots similar to ours?

Yoshi

So that'd probably be the only difference.

Yoshi

But what you have is a great starter for anyone.

Yoshi

Even if you just have those elements of your contact information, a picture of yourself, a bio, what other companies you've worked for, a review section and then you know, as I say, the testimonials or validation of who you've done this for.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

I wouldn't get too been out of shape about an epk though.

Joel Byers

I don't, I can't remember the last time someone was like, but do you have an epk?

Yoshi

Typically you should get be asked for an epk.

Yoshi

Don't just have it just to have it.

Yoshi

You should be asked for it and then go get it done.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

And there's templates on Canva you can kind of follow and stuff.

Yoshi

For sure.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

And I've done eps.

Yoshi

The only time I was probably say, the only time I've really submitted one is for corporate gigs.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's why I have, that's why I have mine.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

So next question.

Yoshi

Good question though.

Joel Byers

That is a good question though.

Joel Byers

Yeah, we haven't gotten asked that one in a while, so.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's a great question though.

Joel Byers

Definitely like a little, little professional Polish for you to.

Joel Byers

For you to have in your back pocket when someone asks for it.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

I would also say if you can put an EPK like on your website or on somewhere that people can just easily get to it, that's also a great, good look for you.

Joel Byers

Yeah, for sure.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's a really good point.

Joel Byers

So the next question I'm seeing is HS3 comedy winner.

Joel Byers

When is the OG reunion show happening?

Yoshi

We got to work on that.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I reckon so.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's a good point.

Yoshi

I like that.

Joel Byers

We don't know.

Joel Byers

We don't know.

Joel Byers

That's a good question now.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that would be fun.

Yoshi

We'll see.

Yoshi

We'll put it out there.

Yoshi

We'll see.

Yoshi

Maybe if the Helium Comedy club will let us do something like that, that'd be super fun like that.

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be super dope.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's definitely something we can plan for 20, 25, for sure.

Joel Byers

I like that we've kind of only done one hot breath event in a sense.

Joel Byers

I mean, I did.

Joel Byers

I did like a hot breath meet up in LA and the joke doctor came out and we did like a session, like a live right.

Joel Byers

10 where people wrote and then went and performed the joke and got feedback from the joke doctor and me.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

And that was.

Joel Byers

That was a lot of fun to do.

Joel Byers

We did that at Flappers in a Burbank and then people got Covid.

Joel Byers

So it was a success all around.

Joel Byers

It was a success all around.

Joel Byers

Just like 15 people in a super tight room.

Joel Byers

No big deal.

Joel Byers

Fortunately, everyone was okay, so I can make the joke.

Joel Byers

But at the time I was like, oh, my gosh, what have I done?

Joel Byers

I remember comic drove from like Vegas to be People drove from all over from like Oakland.

Joel Byers

Like, people really showed up for it.

Joel Byers

So that's awesome.

Yoshi

Yeah, I mean, you showed up for it.

Yoshi

That's what.

Yoshi

That's what you get.

Yoshi

You get coveted jokes.

Yoshi

You came came for jokes, but you go away with COVID So the gift.

Joel Byers

That keeps on giving.

Joel Byers

Next question I have from Beardo asking if I've considered naming my child Remorse.

Joel Byers

That's funny.

Joel Byers

Like buyer's remorse.

Yoshi

Ah, that's hilarious.

Yoshi

That should be your next special Buyer's remorse.

Joel Byers

That's pretty.

Yoshi

Pretty good, Pretty solid stuff.

Joel Byers

And Eric Hansen asks if there's any tips on finding and honing your style.

Yoshi

That's a deep one.

Yoshi

I'd probably say once you.

Yoshi

I think one of my favorite things to watch comedians do when I see them figure out like a style that they have is to just double down on it.

Yoshi

Right.

Yoshi

Like there's a.

Yoshi

I'll, I'll gloat about a comedian who I'm a big fan of in town.

Yoshi

His name is Lanny Farmer.

Yoshi

Lanny Farmer is very, has a style about his comedy, but he digs into it.

Yoshi

And every time I've seen him and I've, I've actually like had him on many of shows of mine and to watch him just dig into that style is like my favorite thing.

Yoshi

Because you've seen all the work that he's done like over the years of just owning that style and he's a very much like a one liner comedian and that's his style and very dry and just like delivers the jokes.

Yoshi

But it's so funny.

Yoshi

So to answer the question, it's just do it more and dig into it.

Yoshi

Once you find what you like or what you enjoy, it's just do more of it as much as possible.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it's really like, well, one, talking about topics that you enjoy talking about, that you have fun performing, that you're naturally interested in, that you're naturally curious about, that you naturally find funny.

Joel Byers

So starting from that natural intention will help you to deliver your jokes more naturally.

Joel Byers

And it's picking up on stylistically, it's, it's over time picking up on what the audience is enjoying about your performance.

Joel Byers

So if you do facial expressions and you find people are laughing when you do facial expressions, it's doing that more.

Joel Byers

I know for example with Jeff Foxworthy when he was on the show he, because he'll, in his delivery he'll kind of go up like this.

Joel Byers

And I asked him about that and he, he said that just kind of evolved organically that he noticed when he went up and pitch like that people started to laugh more.

Joel Byers

So just doing a lot of shows and starting to pick up on these little nuances that the audience was reacting to, he then started to develop his style around that feedback he was getting from the audience.

Joel Byers

So now he's almost known for that high pitch.

Joel Byers

But it all started with him doing it on stage a little bit here and there and then over time just making it a part of his act.

Joel Byers

So just, yeah, being aware of when you review your sets or when you're on stage, if they're laughing at certain moments and try to do more of what evoked that laugh from a delivery standpoint and your style will evolve from there.

Joel Byers

But start with material that you enjoy performing and you enjoy talking about and then that'll start to help you deliver more Naturally as well.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

And when you start out as a comedian, it's also important, like when you're keeping a notebook, like take notes of what you find funny.

Yoshi

Like take a note of the things that make you laugh.

Yoshi

And I think that's an important factor to figure out.

Yoshi

Oh, what your style is.

Yoshi

Like if you find something that someone says funny, like jot it down and be like, why did I find that funny?

Yoshi

And try to remember, okay, there's something about this that I find funny.

Yoshi

And like making a note of what you find funny and what sort of is your funny style helps you also deliver in a better way and helps you deliver the way that you want to because you're like, oh, I like when someone does that thing in comedy or I like the way that that person delivered that joke.

Yoshi

So yeah, along with writing notes, I mean, writing your jokes down, also, like take note of what you find funny as well is super important.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Great question though there, Eric.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it's, it's, it's an evolution, you know, for, for years I just did one liners and I was very.

Joel Byers

Just monotone and didn't even think about the delivery.

Joel Byers

And it just kind of evolved over time.

Joel Byers

But it's interesting, you know, with their.

Joel Byers

People are already thinking about these things now when, early on now there's so much information out there about comedy that, oh, comics, younger comics are now trying to do all these things that older comics.

Joel Byers

I guess I am kind of an older comic.

Joel Byers

But like when I started there wasn't.

Joel Byers

It was kind of like, all right, you just grind for 10 years, then you film a special and you go from there.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

But now it's like, you know, it's the wild west and comics have a bigger growth mindset than ever, which I'm absolutely, I envy in a sense.

Joel Byers

I'm almost like I've been conditioned to feel like I have to grind until I hate myself and then an opportunity magically appears.

Joel Byers

But younger comics are like, no, we're gonna go out there and make our opportunity.

Joel Byers

Opportunity.

Joel Byers

And I really, I don't, I mean I'm, I'm in that mindset now, but it is something I have to be intentional about as it's just the, it's just the norm for comics nowadays.

Yoshi

Absolutely.

Yoshi

Yep.

Yoshi

The game has changed.

Joel Byers

Yeah, it really has.

Joel Byers

Oh, and Bobby said we did a sold out hop breath show at the Hicksville that she put on.

Joel Byers

Yes, we did.

Joel Byers

I was thinking, I guess I was thinking about like meetups or whatnot, but yeah, an actual live show.

Joel Byers

We did yeah, Bobby put that show on with Joyce, which was very cool to do.

Yoshi

Yeah, that's awesome.

Joel Byers

Thank you for that reminder there, Bobby.

Joel Byers

If when we do an OG, you know, Bobby is front and center for sure.

Yoshi

Oh, gee.

Joel Byers

OG OG Yay.

Joel Byers

Yay.

Joel Byers

Wait, what's goody?

Joel Byers

Angels on y'all.

Joel Byers

That's Bobby's sound effect there.

Joel Byers

But I guess we should angels on y'all.

Joel Byers

There's Bobby.

Joel Byers

Oh, we got one more.

Joel Byers

And then maybe we should land the plane.

Yoshi

Yeah, let's do it.

Joel Byers

We got one more.

Joel Byers

So if y'all haven't already hit the like button on this video, share this on social media.

Joel Byers

Let's really start getting these numbers up on these live streams.

Joel Byers

And your homework for this week, go tell one comic at an open mic about hot breath.

Joel Byers

That will be your homework this week, kiddos, because we're gonna spread the hot breath verse one comic at a time.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

And then if you can get in two questions, tell them to go watch my special.

Joel Byers

Yes, good point.

Joel Byers

On the Hot Breath YouTube channel, go watch Yoshi special for sure.

Joel Byers

Probably more importantly, they should go watch Yoshi special.

Joel Byers

It's a good point for sure.

Yoshi

Yeah, we getting out there, man.

Joel Byers

So, Dubs, general asked, do you ever feel like you're just always on go, never really getting to your end goal?

Joel Byers

Does that cause you to be discouraged?

Joel Byers

So do you're just always on go?

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Just feel like you're just always hustling, but you're not getting to your end goal.

Yoshi

And does that discourage you?

Yoshi

I had a feeling this one would stop us in our tracks.

Yoshi

Good question, Dubs.

Yoshi

Good question.

Yoshi

I would say the answer is sometimes you have to be reminded that your end goals can change and even if you're not getting to them is to enjoy the journey of what you are doing and to be gracious.

Yoshi

And I don't know what the word is, but, like, find some gratitude in the everyday stuff that you're doing.

Yoshi

With comedy.

Yoshi

I know when I started it was always about, I gotta get on tv, I gotta do this, I gotta do all that other stuff.

Yoshi

And now I just like to work, man.

Yoshi

I just.

Yoshi

I like doing shows, I like doing corporate gigs.

Yoshi

I just like the ability to be able to get up as often as possible.

Yoshi

I like going on the road, and that's finding more of those opportunities is what my goal is now.

Yoshi

Yes, I have goals of doing more specials.

Yoshi

Yes, I have goals of, you know, opening for a big time comedian.

Yoshi

All those things are still on the goals list.

Yoshi

But I'm not going to stop I think for me, the biggest thing is I'm not going to quit.

Yoshi

That's the whole goal.

Yoshi

Don't quit.

Yoshi

I don't know if that's helpful or not, but that's, for me is sort of the driving force.

Joel Byers

I tell myself that in the mirror every day.

Joel Byers

Don't quit.

Joel Byers

Don't quit.

Joel Byers

Oh, and we got a team of tips saying, hi from Russia.

Yoshi

Hello.

Joel Byers

We out here.

Yoshi

We are out here.

Joel Byers

I think when I do feel that stress or discouragement, I should be X, Y and Z.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

It's all it.

Joel Byers

It all comes down to whenever I feel that way, I'm focusing on something I can't control.

Joel Byers

So that.

Joel Byers

And I've gone up and down and all around about this.

Joel Byers

I mean, yeah, more lately than ever, honestly, with a kid on the way, I'm like, do I want to be on the road?

Joel Byers

And then during the pandemic, I was like, do I even want to do comedy?

Joel Byers

It's like, it's been up and down a lot, but.

Joel Byers

And it all comes back to focus on what I can control.

Joel Byers

And that old saying, you know, get better or get bitter.

Joel Byers

And it's, it's really whatever's in your.

Joel Byers

With your control, just focus on that and just keep trying to get at least just 1% better every day.

Joel Byers

It's just like, how can I get 1% closer to whatever that goal is that you're discouraged about not getting to?

Joel Byers

And it can also help to have a goal a lot of times.

Joel Byers

And I'm guilty of this as well.

Joel Byers

I'm frustrated about something that I'm not even, like, working towards or like, you know, it's.

Joel Byers

I'm.

Joel Byers

You're like, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

I've.

Yoshi

I've seen this with many people.

Yoshi

They're like, get mad that they didn't get to a festival, get into a festival.

Yoshi

And I'm like, did you apply for it?

Yoshi

They're like, no.

Yoshi

It's like, what?

Joel Byers

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

Or I'll see a con.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I'll see a comic, like doing a cruise.

Joel Byers

And I was like, oh, man, I want to go be stuck on a boat for four days.

Joel Byers

I was like, no, you really.

Joel Byers

You don't like it?

Joel Byers

But it, like there's that instinct with all of us.

Joel Byers

Like, but I want to.

Joel Byers

I got to be doing everything too.

Joel Byers

But it's, it's really just that self awareness and just focusing on what you can control and being honest with yourself about what you want and what you don't want and being okay with that.

Joel Byers

And it's Absolutely.

Joel Byers

It.

Joel Byers

I will say this is something comics go through at every level.

Yoshi

Every level?

Joel Byers

Every level.

Joel Byers

I mean, I know there's a lot of younger comics that listen and you may think that this is something that gets better with time.

Joel Byers

I mean, you know, we've talked to a lot of comics that have been doing this a long time and there's.

Joel Byers

They're all trying to figure it out and piece it together and it's.

Joel Byers

We're all still trying to figure it out and there's highs and lows to all of this for everyone.

Yoshi

So absolutely.

Joel Byers

The best advice, focus on what you can control and just be grateful and Try to get 1% better every day.

Joel Byers

Get 1% closer to whatever that goal is.

Joel Byers

Just that incremental effort really has a compound effect, which is why on like a, a less like dramatic level, just writing.

Joel Byers

So many people don't write every day because we're overthinking the outcome of it instead of just seeing the success in the process and sitting down and just setting a 10 minute timer and just moving your pen for 10 minutes.

Yoshi

Absolutely.

Joel Byers

That could be daunting when you feel like you have to sit down and write a.

Joel Byers

Oh, you got to come up with something brilliant.

Joel Byers

No.

Joel Byers

90% of what you write is non sense.

Joel Byers

And we'll never see the light of day.

Yoshi

We'll never see the light of day.

Joel Byers

Yeah, that's everyone that goes through that.

Yoshi

You have to fall in love with the journey.

Yoshi

The journey is the thing, like just doing the work is the thing that will keep you motivated.

Yoshi

The outcomes and the sets, those are things that you have no control.

Yoshi

You have no control over who's going to book you.

Yoshi

But you do have control over how many open mics you do.

Yoshi

You have control over how often you write.

Yoshi

You have control over how many times you record.

Yoshi

You have control over how many things you put out there.

Yoshi

You have control over all those things.

Yoshi

Work on those pieces more than anything else and then let the chips fall where they may.

Joel Byers

Yeah, and it's a marathon.

Joel Byers

It's easy with, especially now with social media and people seemingly blowing up overnight, which some people are.

Joel Byers

I, yeah, I can imagine there's.

Joel Byers

Yeah, there's a lot of pressure there.

Joel Byers

As a younger comic, they're like, oh my gosh, I've been doing this three months.

Joel Byers

Why am I not famous yet?

Joel Byers

It's, it's a, it's a marathon.

Joel Byers

For the vast majority of you out there, it's got to be a marathon.

Joel Byers

You're not necessarily going to win the lottery and just blow up overnight.

Yoshi

Yeah, for sure.

Yoshi

But you're like, oh, I did this tick tock dance and it got a million views.

Yoshi

I put my stand up special and I got four welcome to the world.

Joel Byers

I'll post a clip and it'll get 100 views.

Joel Byers

And I'm like, never mind.

Joel Byers

So many times I've been like, this is it.

Joel Byers

I'm posting every day until we.

Joel Byers

We own fam.

Joel Byers

And then I'll post like three days in a row and then, you know, that's it.

Yoshi

So, yeah, and I mean, even from everyone a lot.

Yoshi

I would probably say the majority of the people that we've interviewed have said that the thing that blew up was never the thing that they thought was going to blow up.

Yoshi

It was just the work.

Yoshi

They were just trying stuff out.

Yoshi

You know what I mean?

Yoshi

They were just putting things out there and they had no control over which one of these is going to blow up, but it just did.

Yoshi

And you never know what's going to resonate with people.

Yoshi

But they were just putting stuff out.

Yoshi

They were just doing the work.

Yoshi

They were like, okay, I'm gonna just try these and see what happens.

Yoshi

So, yeah, control what you can control.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

So, yeah, social media is one example of that.

Joel Byers

But just the question, I think was a little more in general, just, yeah, the highs and lows of this comedy game, it's just for sure, yeah, it's a marathon.

Joel Byers

So just I like to focus.

Joel Byers

I think the higher the highs or the lower the lows, the higher the highs.

Joel Byers

So I like to think when I'm.

Joel Byers

When I'm at a really low point, I see it kind of as like a trampoline to where I'm really low on the trampoline.

Joel Byers

It's about to shoot me back up.

Joel Byers

Or it's like a slingshot being pulled really far back, and then you're about to be, like, catapulted further than ever.

Joel Byers

So I like to approach the highs and lows with that mindset.

Joel Byers

And the community helps too.

Joel Byers

I mean, being a part of the Hot Breath of Earth, being in the Facebook group, being a part of these live streams, and connecting with us and other comics in the live chat, it's all that community aspect in your local scenes as well.

Joel Byers

Having a support around you to really voice these feelings and realize you're not alone can really help to persevere as well.

Yoshi

Boom, boom.

Yoshi

Yeah, Bow.

Joel Byers

Oh, and Devin Verma asked if I'm saying to write for 10 minutes without a goal in mind, instead of writing with the goal of making a joke, should I just free write.

Joel Byers

I think.

Yoshi

Either one.

Yoshi

Yeah, either one.

Joel Byers

I'm just.

Joel Byers

I was thinking more of, like, writing focused on the process and not the outcome.

Joel Byers

So, yes, the success is in starting.

Joel Byers

The success for me is when I actually sit down and set a timer and actually just start writing.

Joel Byers

And all of my writing starts with journaling.

Joel Byers

I don't sit down and go, I'm going to write a joke now.

Joel Byers

I always journal first just to kind of get the juices flowing, and then we'll go into material and kind of start working on material.

Joel Byers

That way I just kind of ease into it.

Joel Byers

It's not like an on off thing.

Joel Byers

I kind of have to just warm myself up into it.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yoshi

I mean, journalist key.

Yoshi

It's the artist's way.

Yoshi

If you've ever read the artist's way, it's about just writing, like, three pages before you do anything else or just getting stuff out.

Yoshi

But, yeah, journaling is very, very helpful.

Yoshi

And it's less pressure than trying to write a joke, too.

Yoshi

You're just putting your.

Yoshi

Whatever's in your head.

Yoshi

You're just putting it on paper.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

It's a great.

Joel Byers

It's a great starting point.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

Starting the hardest part with all that.

Joel Byers

Which is why I'm doing this writing cohort starting on Sunday that if you want to apply.

Joel Byers

I'm only gonna let seven people in.

Joel Byers

If you want to apply.

Joel Byers

It'll be linked in the show notes, and it's also in the live chat for people in the live stream here.

Joel Byers

They want first dibs on that.

Yoshi

Yep.

Joel Byers

Up.

Joel Byers

Well, we should.

Joel Byers

We should probably land this plane.

Joel Byers

We have gone over, but we appreciate everyone for hanging out here.

Joel Byers

This was a good one.

Joel Byers

This is.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

What you got coming up?

Yoshi

What you got coming up?

Joel Byers

What do I have coming up?

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Nothing.

Joel Byers

Yep.

Joel Byers

I have a baby coming up.

Yoshi

That's.

Joel Byers

Oh, I'm going a fundraiser for the Pediatric Cancer Foundation.

Yoshi

Awesome, man.

Yoshi

That's sweet.

Joel Byers

But I've done some work with them for the past few years, so I'm doing that.

Joel Byers

And yeah, I mean, in.

Joel Byers

In December, Av.

Joel Byers

I mean, I've booked a few things locally, but it's.

Joel Byers

Yeah, I haven't been, like.

Joel Byers

I haven't booked anything on the road because I don't.

Joel Byers

I don't.

Joel Byers

Anything could happen, really, between now and when she's.

Joel Byers

I would hate to be in a Hampton Inn in the middle of nowhere and my wife's like, oh, it's happening.

Joel Byers

And then, yeah, like, I'm.

Joel Byers

I can't be accessible, you know, so for sure yeah.

Joel Byers

So.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Yoshi

All right, cool.

Joel Byers

What about you?

Yoshi

I've got Tampa Bay.

Yoshi

I said Tampa Bay, Tampa, Florida.

Yoshi

Coming up, featuring for the homie, the hot brethren, Adam Mueller.

Yoshi

All right.

Joel Byers

That's Adam Mueller.

Joel Byers

All right.

Yoshi

Yeah, we're going to be out there Thursday through Saturday.

Yoshi

We got a couple shows doing that.

Yoshi

And then next weekend I will be local at the Lawrenceville Aurora Theater as well.

Joel Byers

Let's go.

Joel Byers

What is that.

Yoshi

Nice?

Yoshi

Aurora Theater, Lawrenceville, Georgia, with the homie, Big Kenny.

Joel Byers

Oh, that's.

Joel Byers

Oh, I've done.

Joel Byers

I've done that show up there with him before.

Yoshi

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joel Byers

That's a killer.

Joel Byers

That's an awesome show.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Yoshi

Fun set.

Yoshi

And then at the end of the month, also doing a show at downtown Duluth, Georgia at eop, opening for Karen Mills, who is an opener for what's her name?

Yoshi

Morgan.

Yoshi

What's the female comedian country Leanne Morgan.

Yoshi

Leanne Morgan.

Joel Byers

She opens up for Leanne Morgan.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Karen Mills, right?

Joel Byers

You said.

Yoshi

Yeah, Karen Mills.

Yoshi

Yes, yes.

Yoshi

Absolutely.

Yoshi

Hilarious.

Joel Byers

Yeah, Very fun.

Yoshi

At the end of the weekend.

Yoshi

And then I've got my monthly show at the beginning of December.

Yoshi

So, yeah, I've got stuff coming up.

Yoshi

Super excited about it.

Joel Byers

Yoshi out here working.

Yoshi

We outshiming.

Yoshi

We out here.

Joel Byers

Very nice.

Yoshi

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Let's land this plane.

Joel Byers

Yeah.

Joel Byers

Feel free to reach out to us with any questions.

Joel Byers

Of course.

Joel Byers

Go join our email list where I will send you updates on these weekly live streams.

Joel Byers

We do.

Joel Byers

And I send out another email with a fun overview of all the hot breath happenings during the week and all that fun stuff.

Joel Byers

But we're out of here.

Joel Byers

We love you all.

Joel Byers

Remember your homework.

Joel Byers

Go tell a comic I didn't open mic this week about hot breath.

Joel Byers

And we'll see you next Tuesday.

Joel Byers

Hot breath.