Hey friends and welcome back.
Speaker AWelcome to part three of Building Community.
Speaker AToday we're going to talk about friendship.
Speaker AHow do we make friends as adults and how do we build and nurture and develop deeper friendships with the friends we already have?
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Speaker AAnd I would first want to start off with sharing a little bit of Find your people by Jenny Allen, which I've referenced and shared a little bit from before.
Speaker ABut she basically starts the book and says, well, we aren't supposed to be this lonely.
Speaker AAnd she says, I imagine if you're here, you're here because you feel it too.
Speaker AThis, that sinking feeling that you aren't seen, you aren't known, you are on your own to face whatever difficult thing life is throwing at you.
Speaker AShe says, I get it.
Speaker ABut I'm convinced that feeling, that feeling is rooted in a big fat lie.
Speaker AA lie that threatens to pull you and me into a dark place unless we can learn how to fight back.
Speaker AAnd then she goes on and says she basically has this feeling like I am all alone.
Speaker AAnd she says the ache of loneliness is real and it's haunting us.
Speaker AAnd she explains that she has this vivid nightmare, right about basically everybody around her, like quitting on her, backstabbing her, all these things.
Speaker AIt's basically like this serious betrayal dream.
Speaker AAnd she says, why am I telling you this?
Speaker ABecause on some deep level, being alone is a fear we all share.
Speaker AMaybe you're experiencing loneliness right now.
Speaker AMaybe you had people and they quit you.
Speaker AOr maybe you've never truly had your people.
Speaker AOr maybe you have them, but even when you're with them, you feel distant and unseen.
Speaker AFriends, this episode is going to be all about friendship.
Speaker AHow do we develop it and how do we become the people that are brave enough to make new friends?
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AAnd she said, we don't just want to be seen.
Speaker AWe want to tell a friend or a loved one about our disappointments and hopes and find comfort as well.
Speaker AWe want to be seen and comforted and we want to be safe.
Speaker ABut we aren't always safe.
Speaker AAnd let's see if there's anything right here.
Speaker AI want to share.
Speaker ABasically, though, it's this.
Speaker AWe need each other, we need people to do life with.
Speaker AAnd so I just want to share why it's so important that we keep trying, right?
Speaker AThat we keep going and that we keep putting the effort forth.
Speaker AAll right?
Speaker ABecause as I shared in the past, in this series, in the prior episodes, loneliness, right?
Speaker ALike keeping loneliness, being more isolated, not having deep, meaningful relationships.
Speaker AAnd that can be with just one person or several people, not tons of people.
Speaker AWe do not.
Speaker AWe are not as satisfied or fulfilled in life.
Speaker AIf we don't have people to do life with, we may not live as long, right?
Speaker ABecause it has real health consequences.
Speaker AAnd so friendship, community is so important.
Speaker AIt is literally one of the cornerstones of good health.
Speaker ASo mental and physical health.
Speaker ABecause what's in our head, what we think, what we feel impacts our health, it impacts our genes.
Speaker ABecause that it's basically the science of epigenetics, what we think, the environment in our mind, right?
Speaker ASo the more negative, the more down we feel, the more depressed, isolated, alone.
Speaker AIt will actually turn on gene expression versus if we're more positive, we connect with people, we feel fulfilled, we feel seen and heard and loved.
Speaker AWe understand that there's a real connection to God.
Speaker AWhen we have those things in our head, most of the time different gene expression is turned on.
Speaker AAnd so this matters.
Speaker AIt really does matter for a lifetime and beyond.
Speaker AAnd so this is why I want to talk about it.
Speaker AAnd it's also because I'll talk to a lot of people and I also have fairly decent size groups, right, of friend groups.
Speaker ASo all different levels of friends, like my closest friends, my good friends, my longest term friends that I don't see very often.
Speaker AAnd then I have acquaintance friends and groups.
Speaker AAnd then lots of people that we know, right, from sports and the kids growing up, you know, neighbors, that sort of thing.
Speaker ASo I in besides having the podcast and other things.
Speaker ASo I've talked to plenty of people, I talk to plenty of women, women I've just met and then women that I've known for a long time.
Speaker AAnd the struggle is real.
Speaker AA lot of people, men and women.
Speaker ABut I'm going to more speak from the context of women here.
Speaker AThey struggle to have deep, meaningful friendships with other women in their lives.
Speaker ANow, of course, I have plenty of close friendships, and because I've taught, I just said that.
Speaker ABut I talk to people all the time that do not either.
Speaker AThey had friends and they just kind of went away.
Speaker AYou know, they moved things.
Speaker ALife, seasons changed, maybe there was a disagreement that they Couldn't get past or didn't know how to get past someone, couldn't forgive someone.
Speaker AGo.
Speaker AYou can go on and on.
Speaker AThe list is long.
Speaker ABut what I've found is there is a real challenge for people with knowing how to start a friendship, right?
Speaker ALike, how do you even ask somebody for the first time, much like going out on a date, like, for a friendship, how do you know if this person is a fit to be somebody that you want to hang out with, you know, a little bit?
Speaker ABecause you really won't know if they'll become a close friend until you put in a ton of time and had more experiences with them.
Speaker AAnd so I do want to share with you a little bit more of Jenny Allen's book because it really takes effort, but it's so worth it, right, to have friendships.
Speaker AAnd so she's saying in the part of her book called Committed, she's saying basically we have to choose inconvenience.
Speaker AShe says, but the challenge before us is deeper than just conflict resolution.
Speaker AIt's choosing to prioritize each other again and again, committing consistent time day in, day out.
Speaker ASometimes that means we get hurt, and sometimes it means we're simply inconvenienced.
Speaker AThroughout history, most people stuck together because they were literally stuck together for the entirety of their lives, no less.
Speaker AYou live in an Italian village of 50 people, get a fight, tough.
Speaker AYou're at the only.
Speaker AYou are the only little Italian grocer owned by the person you're fighting with the next day, picking up carrots, pasta and biscuit cookie thingies.
Speaker ABut these days, too many of us are experts at quitting each other.
Speaker AAnd most of us can figure out a way to hide from everyone while we do it.
Speaker AWhat I'm calling you, calling you to instead, he says, what Paul was calling us to, what God is calling us to, is a wholly different supernatural mindset that is guarded, supplied, and filled with Christ Jesus.
Speaker AHe is the way we think, relate, speak, reconcile, forgive, and love.
Speaker ABecause we've been given such abundance, we give away our abundance.
Speaker AThis is our story.
Speaker AThis is how we live out the gospel.
Speaker AAnd so she then goes and says, we choose to be inconvenienced for the sake of each other.
Speaker AIf you think about it, friendship, all relationships really is a giant inconvenience, at least if we're doing it right.
Speaker AAnd the inconvenience chosen again and again changes us, wakes us up, makes us laugh and love and hope and dream.
Speaker AYeah, the intertwining my life with other people is inconvenient.
Speaker ABut I'll take that kind of trouble again and again over to ease and to ease an emptiness of trying to go it alone, to leave behind our loneliness and enjoy the reward of community.
Speaker AWe have to keep showing up, keep being vulnerable, keep coming to the table, be together, work together, and share life together over and over again.
Speaker AThen one day we look up and realize our friendships have grown deep.
Speaker ASo here's what I love.
Speaker AShe then goes on and shares some data, some research on basically what it looks like to grow friendships and the different levels of friendship.
Speaker AAnd let's see.
Speaker ASo then I just want to share this little excerpt and then I'll go on and show you, share some of that data.
Speaker AShe says one reason it's so hard to have good friends is that getting something on the calendar takes so much work.
Speaker AShe first, put something regular.
Speaker ASo first put something regular on your calendar.
Speaker AIt takes the work out of this.
Speaker ASchedule it like I did with my friends in Austin.
Speaker APick the time and place where you all show up.
Speaker ASecond, once you've found your close people, break all the rules on how you spend your time together.
Speaker AIs it purposely leave the house a mess?
Speaker AInvite someone to your dinner party an hour early to help you prep, or ask them to stay late and help you clean up.
Speaker ALeave your laundry out on the couch and ask them to help you fold.
Speaker AAsk if they'll pick your kids up on their way over.
Speaker ABorrow the ingredient you forgot instead of running to the store to buy it.
Speaker ABother someone to run an errand for you or with you, I should say, stop by someone's house unannounced.
Speaker ABring someone a meal without warning.
Speaker AAsk to borrow clothes for a special event instead of shopping for a new dress.
Speaker AAsk someone to help you clean your closet.
Speaker AYou get the point.
Speaker AOkay, so anyways.
Speaker AShe then says that she's.
Speaker AShe shares research from University of Oxford evolutionary psychologist Robin Dunbar.
Speaker AHe basically looks at the types of people in our lives and they fall into acquaintances.
Speaker ACasual friends, friends, good friends, and intimate friends.
Speaker AAnd he puts numbers to these categories.
Speaker ASo let's take a look at this.
Speaker ASo basically means how much time do we have to invest to take people on these different levels of.
Speaker AWhat do you call it?
Speaker ALevels of friendship.
Speaker AOkay, let me see if I can find the data.
Speaker AI'm not seeing it all of a sudden.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo it says.
Speaker AOkay, sorry.
Speaker ASo she said.
Speaker AInspired by Dunbar's research, university Kansas professor Jeffrey hall began poking around at the various relational levels.
Speaker AAnd he said it took about 50 hours of interaction to move from acquaintance to casual friend.
Speaker AGuys, 50 hours?
Speaker AHow much time have you spent on a friendship if you're feeling like you don't have many friendships?
Speaker A50 hours, people.
Speaker AThat's not a small number.
Speaker AThen it says to move from acquaintance to casual friend was 50.
Speaker AAbout 90 hours to move from casual friend to friend and more than 200 hours to qualify as a best friend.
Speaker AT says this begs the question with the people you consider your most intimate friends.
Speaker AHow many hours have you logged?
Speaker AThat impromptu trip to the mall that lasted a couple hours.
Speaker AThat's 1% of an intimate relationship logged.
Speaker ACooking out in your backyard.
Speaker AThat stands an entire summer afternoon.
Speaker AYou've just racked up 3% of a ride or die friendship.
Speaker AAnd she says that's a good 25.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AMy guess is that the reason you feel close to certain people is that you have faithfully put in a time together.
Speaker AAny guesses as to where you find that kind of time?
Speaker AWhen we're all too busy for friendships.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker AMeal time while you're prepping, cooking, eating and cleaning up food.
Speaker AAnd so you guys, here's the thing.
Speaker AIf you're struggling to have more friendships or any friendships, it takes time.
Speaker AIt takes being intentional, and then it takes asking people to do things.
Speaker AThat can be if your kids are younger, it can be when you're having your child's having a friend over.
Speaker AInvite the mom to stay and have coffee with you, but get to know the person.
Speaker AIf you've gotten to know somebody already, invite them to do something else or something more.
Speaker AMaybe you're really excited to try this new workout class or a pottery class.
Speaker AInvite a few ladies.
Speaker ANot everybody will say yes, but someone will guess what.
Speaker AYou'll get to know them a little bit better.
Speaker AKeep asking, keep accepting other people's invitations and keep showing up.
Speaker AFor people like Jenny explains, friendship and relationships take work and they take being inconvenienced, meaning you're going to use your time to commit to spending it with someone else, whether it's what you fully want to do or not.
Speaker ABecause you are developing a relationship, you are deepening a relationship, and it is worth every second you will spend with them.
Speaker ANow, it's true, sometimes relationships or friendships or your romantic partner, they end.
Speaker ABut we hopefully learned along the way something that we will then use when we develop new relationships.
Speaker ASometimes our best friend moves away and we rarely see her.
Speaker AWell, we're going to need to make other friends, right, that live in proximity.
Speaker ABecause while it's great to have a best friend that lives across the country, they can't drop everything and come over and help Us or watch our sick kid when we have to go somewhere if we cannot cancel.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo we need people we can rely on for everyday life, but also for crisis time.
Speaker AAnd so it is so important to put the time in now.
Speaker ADon't say, I will do it one day when.
Speaker AI will do it one day when.
Speaker AWhen my kids are grown.
Speaker AI will do it one day when my work isn't so crazy.
Speaker AI will do it one day when I have more time.
Speaker AI will do it one day when.
Speaker AThat is not an answer.
Speaker AYou need to start today.
Speaker AYou need to start today to invest in the people around you or to invest in finding new people.
Speaker ASo many of us don't have these deep relationships, and that's okay for now, but we've got to try.
Speaker AWe've got to work at it.
Speaker AAnd I would also say to you, this is true with your family relationships.
Speaker AAnd let me tell you, I have a girls lunch scheduled for next Sunday.
Speaker AWe scheduled it over a month ago, and it.
Speaker AIt took us about 35 texts to get to that date that all of us.
Speaker AI think there was nine of us that we were all able to do.
Speaker AIt takes effort.
Speaker AIt takes coordinating.
Speaker AMy siblings and I are planning to get together in April because three of my siblings have birthdays that month.
Speaker AAnd with everybody's vacations, it seems that at least two of my siblings have several vacations that month with, like, longer vacations.
Speaker AAnd then one of my siblings had something almost every Saturday night.
Speaker AWe have our son's high school soccer, which is during the week and on Friday nights.
Speaker ASo it literally took quite a few texts back and forth.
Speaker AAnd we literally can't find a date to get together until April 27th.
Speaker AAnd one of my siblings is from out of town.
Speaker AMy point is, one, you have to be proactive.
Speaker AAnd it is March, and we cannot get together for about five weeks.
Speaker ASo you have to send the invitation, let's get together.
Speaker ALet's not let too much time pass.
Speaker AWhat works?
Speaker ACoordinating, right when you can get together.
Speaker AAnd then we had to make it happen, right?
Speaker AWe had to all commit to, yes, we will be there that day because this is the only date that worked for everybody.
Speaker ASo that was what friendships take.
Speaker ASometimes it's, you know what?
Speaker AI'm going to skip my skip spin class, so I can go meet you for dinner or I can come help you fold your laundry, or I will come right after spin class in my sweaty, gross clothes.
Speaker ADo you see what I'm saying?
Speaker ALike, put in the time, think of people, and don't just have the thought go and take action, right?
Speaker ADrop something off at a friend's house, right?
Speaker AIt could be just flowers from your backyard, a sweet note, whatever it might be, but it takes being intentional.
Speaker AI have so many stories about how I have made new friends as an adult and then how other friends have invited a friend into some of our circles and now that person's my friend, maybe not my closest friend because I don't know them well as well.
Speaker AI haven't clocked all the hours, but it's a new friend.
Speaker ASo how can you make new friends?
Speaker AHow's it.
Speaker AWhat's a couple tangible ways?
Speaker AWell, when my kids were younger, it was connecting with the other moms, right?
Speaker ALike somebody saying let's all get together and have a play date together.
Speaker AMoms and kids that was getting to know each other.
Speaker AIt was asking the women in my neighborhood that live near me in proximity who is free and wants to go on a walk weekly.
Speaker AI send out a text and says, is anybody free to go on a walk tonight?
Speaker AIt's a beautiful 70 degree night and it's now light till seven, so at least one of my girlfriends is able to walk tonight.
Speaker ASome of them are busy.
Speaker ASo it's the continual ask asking, it's a continual accepting.
Speaker AAnd I get it, we're not going to be able to say yes to everything, nor should we.
Speaker ABut we should be intentional with our time.
Speaker AAnd I hope that you can look at your calendar, you can look at your schedule and be honest with yourself and say, how much time am I committing to my relationships each week, each month and each year.
Speaker AAnd if you look at that calendar and what scheduled is for everyone else and it is for work and for other people's commitments, then you are going to need to write down how would you like that to change?
Speaker ABecause I can promise you relationships and building and strengthening and growing or developing new relationships should be one of your top priorities.
Speaker AJust like most of us have the goal of deepening our faith, getting the word more, we want to put relationships, having healthy relationships at the top of that list.
Speaker AAnd so you need to start saying, am I having quality time with my spouse?
Speaker AIf you're married, am I getting time in with my children?
Speaker AIf you have children, am I making time for friendships, right, to blossom or to deepen?
Speaker AAnd if you're not, you need to start deep because like I said, the data is there.
Speaker AIt shows that we're healthier when we have strong friendships.
Speaker AIt shows that we know we have people to count on.
Speaker APeople have know they can count on us.
Speaker AIt's much like Jenny Allen said I shared last episode.
Speaker AWe need to facilitate connection.
Speaker AWe need to keep knocking on doors.
Speaker AWe need to stop putting up boundaries around all our relationships because the in real life relationships are the ones that matter.
Speaker AOnline friendships is fine.
Speaker AThat can be a toxic place.
Speaker AMost of us when we spend more time there, we're actually more depressed and feel more lonely.
Speaker ASo get off your, you know, scrolling whatever social you're on, step outside, take a walk and invite someone to go with you.
Speaker APromise it matters.
Speaker AIt's another way to meet friends.
Speaker AIs something you've always wanted to do.
Speaker AGo do it, invite a friend or just meet a new friend there.
Speaker AYou're not going to become best buddies overnight with someone.
Speaker AIf you've wanted to take a cooking class, go sign up.
Speaker AYou wanted to take a paint and sip class, go sign up.
Speaker AWhether it's yourself or you, invite friends.
Speaker APromise.
Speaker AWhen you're willing to get vulnerable and do something that you want to do, you don't.
Speaker ADon't let fear or worry about how people what people think.
Speaker AIf you're by yourself, it makes all the difference.
Speaker AI have eaten meals by myself when I happen to go out of town for a conference where I don't know anybody.
Speaker AI was just in D.C.
Speaker Alast week by myself.
Speaker AI went to event where I didn't know a single person.
Speaker AYou know, I met the people at my table and that sort of thing.
Speaker ABut I still was eating by myself some because I went without a friend or my husband.
Speaker AAnd so once again I've gotten comfortable doing things by myself.
Speaker ABut then I'll say to somebody, oh, do you want to go walk with me over to check out this place?
Speaker AOr I'll meet you back here.
Speaker AAfter I went to go explore and walk around for the evening event that night but I've gotten comfortable putting myself out there.
Speaker ASo if you go to a like sign up for the thing by yourself or if you have like good friends, ask who can come.
Speaker AEither way it's okay.
Speaker AYou can make good things, make new friends through connections of interests, right?
Speaker ASo whether it's you guys like to both go on walks, whether you like music and you're going to a concert, maybe you both have kids with similar ages or maybe you're newly singled or you're both married, whatever it might be, find a commonality and just strike up a conversation with someone.
Speaker AIt's easier than you think.
Speaker APeople actually want to be invited to things.
Speaker AThey want friendships, but they're like you, they are afraid to be the one to initiate and then to be shot down, you guys, it's the same as dating.
Speaker AIt doesn't make it easy, especially maybe as you get older.
Speaker AI'm married, so I obviously haven't dated in a super long time, right?
Speaker ADecades.
Speaker ABut it's the same thing.
Speaker AWe have to be willing to put ourselves out there if we're going to meet someone new.
Speaker AIt's the same with relationships.
Speaker AAnd we can't expect our current relationships to grow deeper if we don't put in more time.
Speaker AIn other words, what you did in the past with a best friend or a spouse, you can't assume that that's just gonna like be good forever, right?
Speaker AIf we didn't pay any attention to our spouse in the future, because we already did in the past, going to guess that things aren't going to improve.
Speaker AThey're either going to get stagnant or they might actually kind of start falling apart.
Speaker AWell, it's the same with friendships.
Speaker AWe can still have friendships, but if we want them to deepen, if we want them to become a best friend, we have to keep putting in time.
Speaker AYou know, there might be a season or two where you have to do less or you're going through a difficult time, maybe a diagnosis, but you still have to communicate with each other, right?
Speaker AMaybe you can't always be in together in person.
Speaker ASo today's episode is all about friendship and it's really about being brave.
Speaker AIt's about putting yourself out there.
Speaker AIt's about investing your time and resources in other people and knowing that you and relationships should be a priority, a top priority in your life.
Speaker ABecause it's people, it's relationships and connections that make our lives better and richer.
Speaker AWho wants to go through life on our own?
Speaker AI mean, no one to celebrate with or no one to like just say, like, I'm just struggling.
Speaker AWe need people so we can do life with other people.
Speaker AAnd if you are in a intimate relationship, that, that is a wonderful and lovely and good thing.
Speaker ABut it does not necessarily replace same sex friendships.
Speaker AAnd I say that because what my husband and I talk about or how deep he'll go on certain topics is not the same as sometimes girlfriends like our talk, right?
Speaker AWomen tend to want to dig into a lot of us, at least things longer.
Speaker AWe want to talk longer out or around something silly.
Speaker ABut we can get really serious.
Speaker AAnd deep in my husband and I, right?
Speaker AHe wants to sort of get to the root of something or he just wants to hear it and be like, okay, I heard you.
Speaker AAnd so I think most of us need more than one type of relationship, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker AAnd so I think if we have the one, it does not exclude that the other one should also, we should also try to develop the other one.
Speaker AAnd so until next time, I hope you have a great week.
Speaker AI hope this three part series has really opened your eyes and given you some more food for thought.
Speaker AI hope it lets you just have the bravery to open yourself up to deepening relationships, to new relationships, to being parts, part of new communities, to being vulnerable and to know that not I'm sorry, that if you feel alone, if you feel isolated, if you feel, you know, just worn down, you are not alone.
Speaker ASo many of us are struggling with these things.
Speaker AThe way that we get lifted up is by lifting others up.
Speaker AAnd the way that we get lifted up is by showing up, show up in the room, show up in church, show up at the event, try something new, extend the invitation, bring something else to somebody, let them know, hey, I saw you or you know, I really saw you had this beautiful color on the other day.
Speaker AI loved that on you.
Speaker AYou know, I was thinking of you when I saw these flowers that are the same color you were wearing and I decided just to drop them on your porch, whatever it is.
Speaker AReally what we're talking about is being open hearted and showing up to love our neighbors like we love ourselves, showing up in kindness and showing up to open our homes and our hearts.
Speaker ASo friends, until next time, hope you have a great week and also I would love to hear from you has have these episodes helped you put yourself out there to deepen relationships, to make a new friend in the coming weeks?
Speaker AI'd love to hear from you.
Speaker ASo drop me a line either at Kristen Fitch on Instagram or you can email me through my website.
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