What is happening in the world that is dividing people?
Speaker AIt is literally breaking families apart.
Speaker AIt is breaking friendships apart.
Speaker AAnd we've got to speak out about this.
Speaker AWe are literally destroying communities because people are putting ideologies and causes ahead of God and ahead of their communities, ahead of their relationships.
Speaker AAnd so this is something that's been going on for years, but it continues to become a problem.
Speaker AOur relationships, our communities, are literally being ripped apart, and people are basing it on causes and emotions.
Speaker AAnd so today we're going to talk about what's really happening here and how do we move away from this division and come together in unity?
Speaker AHow do we start operating in the world from God's truth, not from how we feel about something.
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Speaker AThe honest truth is, I don't know many people at this point that haven't been affected by this sort of division, this feeling that people will literally unfriend you, they will unfamily you, if you will, if you don't align with what they think is right or what they think is the cause or, you know, how we should be showing up in the world.
Speaker AAnd it's kind of sick, actually, because people aren't seeing it for what it is.
Speaker AEven yesterday, a woman I know online, this exact same, same thing happened to her.
Speaker AHer mom posted something.
Speaker AIt was actually about the two different super bowl halftime shows.
Speaker AAnd literally this.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe daughter, the sister literally has unfriended the other sister now because they didn't align or support something that was the same.
Speaker ABut I have extended family who hasn't talked to their parent.
Speaker AI have friends that their sisters won't speak to them.
Speaker AAnd all of these things, and yet people think that's normal.
Speaker AFolks, that is not normal.
Speaker AThis is not how community.
Speaker AThis is not how families operated for most of the time.
Speaker ARemember, at some point in history, you had to be part of the tribe, right?
Speaker AOr the community.
Speaker AIf you weren't, if you're ostracized in any way, you wouldn't survive.
Speaker AYet we are literally alienating each other.
Speaker AWe are isolating each other.
Speaker AWe aren't speaking to each other or we're just holding.
Speaker AWe're seeing people as evil or bad or sinful if they don't align with something we believe.
Speaker AAnd yet it's not biblical.
Speaker ANow people can try to say it's biblical, these different issues, but at the end of the day, God, right, one of his biggest command is love your neighbor as yourself.
Speaker AIt's to love people.
Speaker AIt's not to judge them, it's not to think they're bad because they have a different viewpoint than you.
Speaker AYet that's what we're doing.
Speaker AAnd so I want to dig into this a little bit.
Speaker AI read a. I wanted to talk about this topic for some time and look, I'm probably not going to get it just right either.
Speaker ASo I'm sure this is going to be polarizing because anything that we speak on where it can be interpreted different ways or if anybody thinks I'm inferring one thing, of course it may.
Speaker ASome people may say, oh my gosh, I felt this way.
Speaker AAnd other people might say, you know, you're horrible.
Speaker ABut you know, the truth is we have to speak on things that we see or that something that kind of hit me.
Speaker AAnd this is something that I wanted to talk about this week.
Speaker ASo I read a really.
Speaker AI'm sorry, I listened to a really good post by Stacy Renee.
Speaker ASo she's someone that puts out Bible studies and talks on biblical topics, but she's basically talking about this topic in one of her recent posts.
Speaker AAnd basically she's saying, you know, there's people we love, people we know, people that we know are intelligent, yet they seem to be acting a bit off their rocker.
Speaker AAnd maybe this is you, right?
Speaker AMaybe this is some of us, or maybe we're doing it and don't even realize it.
Speaker ABut basically, here's what's happening.
Speaker AShe says, you know, you fake, you find conversations go nowhere, people shut you down or they just unfriend you or unconnect with you.
Speaker AAnd it's as if we can't disagree to or agree to disagree.
Speaker AWe can't just regard and respect people, we can't just love them if they don't align with something that we think is right or that we think is just or cause or has, you know.
Speaker ASo the problem with that is we're making it about ourselves.
Speaker AWe're making about a cause that we think or a viewpoint that we think is righteous.
Speaker ABut in.
Speaker ABut we're not going back to the Bible to say, is this true or is this actually a half truth?
Speaker AIs this selective framing?
Speaker AAm I being fed these reels, these stories that make me angry, that make me feel a certain way about the people on the other side or people that don't Align with what I think is right or, you know, so I think, one, we need to take a step back, and we need to look at our own behavior in the behavior around us and say, is this how God wants me to show up in the world?
Speaker ABecause if we're showing up in any way other than love and kindness and respect, then there's probably a hardening of our heart.
Speaker AI am not saying that we shouldn't serve others, we shouldn't help the poor, we shouldn't help widows, like, right.
Speaker AAll those things.
Speaker ABut we need to do it out of a place of service, out of love.
Speaker AAnd we're not all called to help the same causes.
Speaker AWe're not all called to, say, have the same viewpoints.
Speaker ANow, I don't mean from a biblical perspective.
Speaker AI mean how we're supposed to show up in the world.
Speaker ABut here's the thing.
Speaker ASo Stacy goes on to say, you know, what's really happening is people don't realize that they've gone astray.
Speaker APeople don't realize that how they're showing up is not of God, if you will.
Speaker AAnd so here's what she's explaining is discernment is gone, right?
Speaker ASo we're either choosing deception or discernment.
Speaker AAnd when people are deceived, they don't know they're deceived.
Speaker AWhen people refusing.
Speaker AOkay, sorry.
Speaker AAnd so this is the scripture around that.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker ALet's see, it's Romans 1:28.
Speaker AAnd it says, furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind so that they do what ought not be done.
Speaker ASo in other words, people are acting off of their emotions.
Speaker AThey're acting off of what they're seeing in the world, which often is spin, right?
Speaker AIt's often trying to stir the pot.
Speaker AIt's trying to create division and angst.
Speaker AAnd they're not operating from a place of discernment.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AAnd so basically, you know, she's saying that over the last couple of years, yes, we had the coronavirus, but everything around it was so divisive, right?
Speaker AIt was, do this or else if you don't get the shot, then you're bad and we can't see you.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut they were causing division.
Speaker AAnd they do it with politics and causes and viewpoints as well.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AI mean, the media spins things.
Speaker APeople are stirring it up, but instead going back to God's word instead of going back to look at our hearts and see how we operate in the world.
Speaker AWe aren't all using discernment and we don't even realize that.
Speaker ASo we are being deceived.
Speaker AAnd basically, she says the reason it's so hard to understand is because why logic just doesn't land anymore.
Speaker AAnd it's because people are deceived.
Speaker AAnd Chatfield talks about this in a different way.
Speaker AAnd he says basically, are we operating in life from emotions, right, or what we're seeing that selective framing, half truth, not from God's word.
Speaker AAnd he says when we get swept up by the chaos itself that's telling us something, that's telling that we're not grounded in God's truth.
Speaker AAnd he says, and are we sinning because we think a cause or a viewpoint is righteous?
Speaker AInstead of going back to what God says, what is his word?
Speaker ANot a half truth of what the Bible says.
Speaker ABecause it's easy to cherry pick and say, oh, but it says this, but does it say that?
Speaker ADoes it say we should act a certain way?
Speaker AThe other thing I'd say is a lot of people want to have a strong opinion in a viewpoint, but then when you dig a little deeper, they're not actually doing anything.
Speaker AThey're not taking action to help the person, the group, the cause, whatever it might be.
Speaker AWhat do I mean by that?
Speaker AWell, it's easy to say, well, this person doesn't have any food.
Speaker AWell, you should, you should be somebody that wants to give them food, but then they don't actually open their bank account, they don't open their time to go and help at these places.
Speaker ASo it's easy to speak, but it takes a lot more to go serve, to show up.
Speaker AAnd so if you have a strong viewpoint on something or someone else, you do.
Speaker AThe question is, what are you actually doing about it in the world?
Speaker AInstead of speaking about something or going and protesting, are we actually doing something to help the cause, the purpose, the thing God is putting on our heart and calling us into?
Speaker ABecause we do that by showing up in love.
Speaker AWe do that by going and having laws change.
Speaker AWe do that by voting in different political candidates.
Speaker AIn other words, we do that by being the hands and feet of Christ in the world, not by just having a viewpoint.
Speaker AAnd so I think we've got to start checking ourselves.
Speaker AAnd then we also need to give grace to the people that we can see.
Speaker AThey are operating out of emotions, they're operating out of anger or bitterness or not because someone else doesn't agree or align with them.
Speaker AInstead of saying, I respect that, you can have a different viewpoint or opinion than me.
Speaker ABecause that's how it's always been.
Speaker AWe never had to all agree on the same things.
Speaker ABut now it's like it's tribal thinking, right?
Speaker ABecause in other words, if you align with something in some way, some group, then if that group doesn't think that, it's like you're going along with that instead of what God says and how he says to operate in the world.
Speaker AAnd so it's really a separation from God.
Speaker ANow, that doesn't mean you can still be reading the Bible.
Speaker AYou can still be going to church and be deceived.
Speaker ARight now you can be missing discernment because maybe your heart's been hardened, maybe you have been pulled into this chaos, this emotional thinking.
Speaker AAnd even in the Bible, it says, you know, don't.
Speaker ADon't operate from emotion.
Speaker AIt's about truth, God's truth.
Speaker AAnd then Sean Foyt, he said, are we being occupied with schemes, division and conspiracies?
Speaker AHe says we need to make a choice.
Speaker AAre we going to choose conspiracy or conviction?
Speaker AYou can't have both.
Speaker AAnd let me be clear, I'm not talking about conspiracies.
Speaker ALike, should you do this or should you do that?
Speaker AI'm saying, are we getting caught up in the spin?
Speaker AAre we getting so emotionally anger and bitter towards something or someone?
Speaker AAre we letting what's going on in the news just fill us instead of going back to what our calling is?
Speaker AAnd he says conviction is the only way we are alive, breathing, calling and purpose and mandate on our lives.
Speaker AAnything that gets in our way of the clarity of the calling is distraction.
Speaker AWe have to disavow and disconnect.
Speaker AThe Bible warns.
Speaker AAnd he says we have to surrender to these crazy, wild things that want to hold our mind captive.
Speaker AAnd look, I know what he's saying.
Speaker ALike, I've been here before.
Speaker ANot recently as much, but even with COVID like, oh, you know, is this bad?
Speaker AIs this good?
Speaker AIs, you know, worrying about things going on in my own family.
Speaker ABut I was.
Speaker AIt might not have all been conspiracy, but it was distraction.
Speaker AIn other words, I was letting my mind be filled with things that were not good and worthy and godly.
Speaker AI was letting fear and worry and anxiety creep in.
Speaker AOr I was letting, oh, my gosh, people don't see this thing.
Speaker AI was letting that not fully consume me, but it was consuming too much of my thoughts.
Speaker AI was consuming too much of my thinking.
Speaker ABut that distracts us.
Speaker AThat gets us away from what God has us here in the world to do.
Speaker AAnd, you know, he Reminds us, Sean Floyd, that Jesus, right, God, he's the only one that we can really believe in.
Speaker AHe's the only hope in the coming days.
Speaker AIn other words, we need to set our sights on him and we need to take a step back and we need to think about how are we showing up in the world?
Speaker AWhat are we posting?
Speaker AAre we immediately getting angry at people that don't align with our viewpoints or our political views or a cause that we believe is so righteous?
Speaker ABecause there is not one right answer.
Speaker AAnd usually the world is full of gray.
Speaker AGrayness, right?
Speaker ANot black and white.
Speaker AAnd obviously God's word is black and white.
Speaker ABut what I'm saying is living in this world, right, as a human, there's a lot of gray.
Speaker AAnd by gray, I just mean you can have one data point or fact, but not all the facts.
Speaker AYou can see one side of a story because that's the clip you saw, but it is never the full story.
Speaker ABecause if you aren't there, and if you aren't asking God for that clarity, if you aren't asking God for discernment, you're likely not getting the whole picture.
Speaker AAnd beyond that, if you don't have the discernment of God to operate in the world every single day, you're not asking God for that.
Speaker AWhat are we missing?
Speaker AIn other words, we know that Jesus turned most things that culture believed on its head, right?
Speaker ALike the way he shows us, the way he teaches us, the way that he's telling us to live in the world is not of the world.
Speaker ASo we need to go back.
Speaker AWho was Jesus?
Speaker AHow did he live?
Speaker AWhat did he teach us, Right?
Speaker AWhat was that yoke he's saying to pick up?
Speaker AAnd is that the way we're living?
Speaker AIs that where our hearts are aligned?
Speaker AAnd are we fixed on?
Speaker AOr do we.
Speaker ADid we fix our focus on Jesus?
Speaker ABecause if we're fixing it on anything else and we're showing up in anger and bitterness and unforgiveness towards other people, we will not be able to operate in the world the way that God is asking us and the way he wants to use us.
Speaker AAnd so this is just one of those things that whether it's you personally that you need to kind of look at this for your own self or whether it's just people in your lives.
Speaker ANow, let's talk about people in our lives for a minute.
Speaker AI know that people that are stuck in this space, right, they just can't see God's truth in all of it.
Speaker AThey can't let go of some position or opinion.
Speaker AAnd I'm not saying people shouldn't.
Speaker ALike I said, this isn't about saying people shouldn't think one way or another.
Speaker AIt's, are they thinking to a point where they're severing relationships, that they're hardening their hearts, that they can't have grace for people on the other side?
Speaker AAnother example of that is regardless of who the president is and if you align politically or even morally with them and everything else, we want to pray for people, whoever's in.
Speaker AI don't care if it's a Democrat or Republican, if it's Biden or Trump or anyone else.
Speaker AThe point is pray for the people that are.
Speaker AYou know, pray for your, the governors and the senators in your state, too.
Speaker ALike, in other words, whether you align with them or not.
Speaker AFor instance, where I let live, I don't like some of the laws that they're trying to pass right now in my state.
Speaker ABut guess what?
Speaker AI don't have bitterness for them.
Speaker AI don't hate them.
Speaker AI just say, lord, I pray for them.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd I pray that our state makes good choices that are going to be helpful and that I, you know, that I think are better laws.
Speaker ANow, that's just my opinion.
Speaker AObviously, it's not everyone's opinion, but do you see what I'm saying?
Speaker ALike, in other words, we got to get rid of the hate.
Speaker AWe got to get rid of the anger, and we need to have grace for everyone.
Speaker AEven if we don't like them or align with them, even if we think they show poor choices or whatever it is, then pray for them.
Speaker APray for them to have a shift in their heart.
Speaker APray for them that they will align better with God, right?
Speaker ASo especially if they're supposed to be Christian.
Speaker ABut, like, we have to stop making people the bad guys and start figuring out how do we come together, how do we cross over, how do we work together for the good of our communities, for the good of our families, for the good of this country or wherever you live.
Speaker AHow do we come together to be a people of God?
Speaker ABecause when we lose sight of that, nothing else is gonna, right?
Speaker AIt's gonna line up.
Speaker AAnd about this family thing, because it's seriously a big problem when we place such judgment on someone in our family that it causes division and it causes us to say, I'm not speaking to you anymore.
Speaker ALike, I'm done.
Speaker ASomething is wrong there.
Speaker AAnd if people can't see that, that shows you they're being deceived.
Speaker ABecause it's when families crumble it's when families don't have the support of each other that the devil can come in even more.
Speaker ALook at all of the families that are single parents.
Speaker AAnd believe me, I am not saying that people choose that.
Speaker AI know that is a hard path.
Speaker AWhat I'm saying though is there's so many families without two parents or so many families without a male role model, but all of these cases, it's easier for the devil to take hold.
Speaker AWhat do I mean by that?
Speaker AI just mean, or let's say all of us are all working, so are we with our kids.
Speaker AWhat are, who are they learning from?
Speaker AThe point I'm trying to make isn't our lifestyle or the situation we find ourselves in.
Speaker AIt is, are we opening?
Speaker AAre these fissures creating more places for darkness to enter?
Speaker AAnd so what I'm saying is we need each other.
Speaker AWe need our families.
Speaker ANow, obviously, if you're in a situation where there was extreme abuse, trauma, that is a different situation.
Speaker ABut if, but for those of us that have families that function to some level, you know, and the people, our families are helpful, they're not perfect.
Speaker ANone of us are.
Speaker ABut we need each other, right?
Speaker AWe're going to need to rely on each other.
Speaker AJust this week I was over helping my in laws because one of them was having a medical issue and had to go to the er.
Speaker ABut like, we need each other.
Speaker AWe don't have to agree on viewpoints, we don't have to politically be the same, but we do need to show up in the world with an open heart and ready to serve and ready to love others.
Speaker AWe need to show up in the world with God's discernment.
Speaker AAnd I actually just listened to this reel that this, it hits home so much about what I'm talking about today that I'm going to share with you.
Speaker AIt was by J.J. douglas, and he's basically talking about that we don't have to be part of every conversation.
Speaker AWe don't have to give up our peace.
Speaker AAnd so let me just share what he says with you.
Speaker AHe says, I read somewhere, somewhere someone said self care is also choosing not to argue with people who are committed to misunderstanding you.
Speaker AOh my goodness, he says.
Speaker AAnd that sat with me longer than I expected.
Speaker ABecause there was a time I thought explaining myself was growth.
Speaker AI thought staying in the conversation meant maturity.
Speaker AI thought if I just found the right words to say, they'll finally hear me.
Speaker ABut some people aren't listening to understand.
Speaker AThey're listening to respond, to defend, to protect.
Speaker AThe version of the story that keeps them comfortable.
Speaker AAnd no amount of clarity can reach someone who already decided who you are and what you meant.
Speaker AOh my gosh, so good.
Speaker AAnd then he goes on to say, that's when I realized arguing wasn't costing me my pride.
Speaker AIt was costing me my peace.
Speaker AIt was costing.
Speaker AOh, I'm sorry, it was.
Speaker AI was leaving conversations exhausted, questioning myself, replaying moments in my head, trying to see what I could have said differently.
Speaker AAnd the truth was, nothing I said would have changed it.
Speaker ABecause misunderstanding isn't always confusion.
Speaker ASometimes it's a choice.
Speaker ASo I stopped fighting to be understood by people who benefited from not understanding me.
Speaker AAnd I stopped explaining my heart to people who weren't holding it with care.
Speaker AThat was self care, not dramatic distance, not silent treatment, just discernment.
Speaker AKnowing when a conversation will heal and when it will only drain you.
Speaker AChoosing peace over proving a point, choosing rest over being right, and accepting that not everyone deserves access to your inner world.
Speaker ASome clarity doesn't come from talking more, it comes from walking away quietly and honestly.
Speaker AAnd that choice changed everything.
Speaker AWhat that's like the best quote.
Speaker AI want you to remember those words.
Speaker ABecause we don't have to be part of every conversation.
Speaker AWe don't have to know everything going on the news.
Speaker AWe don't have to know all the details about the latest scandal.
Speaker AWe just want to keep our peace.
Speaker AWe want to stay in the present and do what God's calling us to do in whatever season we're in.
Speaker AAnd that means sometimes not being a part of the conversation or not being part of trying to change people's minds.
Speaker ASometimes that might look like putting our head down and getting to work, getting to serve the people around us.
Speaker AOther times it might like look like putting or facing our head to heaven and just being with God, getting in his word and finding discernment in the situation.
Speaker AFinding discernment in our day.
Speaker AFinding.
Speaker AFinding where our heart needs to be changed and shifted so that we show up a person that forgives.
Speaker AWe show up a person that's not bitter.
Speaker AWe show up a person that chooses love over anything else.
Speaker ABecause that's the example Jesus taught us and that is the way we are called to live as Christians.
Speaker AIf you want a little bit of a reset around this topic, I do have a daily worksheet that you can download called Joy Rising, but it's basically taking a gratitude, a daily gratitude practice and just expanding it.
Speaker AIt has you write down what you're grateful for each day, but it also has you focus on where were there bits of joy in your life or what was joyful in your day?
Speaker AAnd then it has you answer a question around how was God present in your day?
Speaker AWhere did you see him moving in your life?
Speaker ABecause when we set our sights on these things and we stop letting the chaos of the world, we stop letting the spin of media just consume us, when we do that, everything shifts because we are doing what God says, which is to set our sights on what is good and what is worthy.
Speaker AAnd, you know, what is of God, not of this world.
Speaker ASo I just pray that this episode maybe opens in you a little bit of a new perspective.
Speaker AMaybe it just gave you one thing to think about or one thing to pray on in your own life.
Speaker ABut I think if we all showed up with more grace towards each other, everything would shift.
Speaker AAnd we can't make other people do this, but we can choose how we're showing up and hope that over time more people wake up and get back to seeking God, get back to asking for his discernment, and get back to stepping into how we're supposed to operate and show up in the world today.
Speaker AIf you want to grab my Joy Rising download, head over to KristinFitch.com and it's under my Workbook section.
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