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Proceed. Welcome back to Katching Up With Katie. Today we have a few things to chat about that happened in the last week. We went on a trip. There’s been some newcomers to the

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farm. We’ve got things going on in the next couple of weeks. So let’s just do a quick little catch-up. We’re going to go out of the room at some point,

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too. We’re taking a little trip on the farm for a segment to talk about Regina and her new man.

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Let’s talk about this past weekend. We went on a very impromptu trip. Like Wednesday, we were like,

A Surprise Trip Unfolds

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“I think we should go to Texas this weekend.” And then we left Friday morning. We went because

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Denver and Whan, both my studs, are in Texas. If you’ve been following long enough,

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you probably know that. Denver is not at the stallion place. He’s not at High Point. He’s in training at Aaron Moses’s, which is like five minutes

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away. That makes it very convenient to go ride, visit, check on everything.

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I needed to go ride him because I haven’t been able to go as much this summer as I was hoping.

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I needed to assess if it was in the cards to show him at the NSBA World. Not Congress,

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not the World Show—just seeing if NSBA World is the next thing. I already have my chaps;

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they’re going to be ready. My shirt might be ready. I just needed to go

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ride him and see if this was going to be a good experience, because there are multiple

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facets to my decision-making when it comes to riding him or showing him.

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I do want to show him, and I will. There’s no question about that. But he’s only shown

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the pleasure at one show prior to this, due to breeding season and him getting

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an abscess right before Ocala. He was just kind of delayed getting into the show pen this year,

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and he’s only four. I want him to look good. I want the person that rides him best to be riding

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and showing him off to the public and getting his show career going. That’s Aaron—unmistakably.

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But if I could show him as a nonpro, it would definitely be fun and would show

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his mind—that he can be this big, bad stallion that lets his nonpro

Will I Compete at the NSBA World Show?

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owner show him. That’s a testament to him. I think that’s definitely in the cards soon.

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But because I haven’t been able to go out there much and because of his slow start,

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I rode him for two days. The second day was light-years better than the first. If I’d been

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able to ride consistently, this wouldn’t even be a question. I think we’d be able to do it. But

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we were just like, “You know what? The first time I go in the show pen on him needs to be with the

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utmost confidence. I need to know what I’m doing and how to handle all the situations.”

What Is the NSBA World Show?

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The NSBA World is a really big show. Just for backstory, there’s the AQHA

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World Show, and there’s the NSBA World Show. NSBA stands for National Snaffle Bit Association. It’s

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in Tulsa, Oklahoma, and it’s essentially the stock horse world show for Quarter Horses, Paint Horses,

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Appaloosas, and I believe POAs. It’s all of these breeds that are part of the National Snaffle Bit

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Association. So you’re showing against a lot of other breeds. It’s a heavy place to debut.

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It’s a big class. It’s expensive. The classes I’d be in have like 40 to 50 people. You have

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to do splits—so you’re showing multiple times in one class. The splits have 20-some horses

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all trying to do the same thing at the same time. It’s not like a pattern class where you go out by yourself regardless of how many are in the class. You’ve got

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to make him look good while navigating traffic and dealing with other people riding around me.

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I rode him around mares this weekend and he didn’t care, but in a show setting,

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would I tense up being in the ring with a bunch of mares while riding a stallion? I don’t know. I think it’s probably better for his career—and for our

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entrance into the show pen—not to debut at the World Show. It’s a lot of pressure.

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I haven’t shown in eight years. The last time I went to the NSBA World Show was 2017,

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and I showed a DIY gelding. I was a DIY amateur, so I didn’t have a trainer.

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What is a DIY? Do-it-yourself, right? You train yourself. You don’t have a trainer.

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It’s not a class—it’s just what you call yourself when you go to a show alone. I

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DIY’ed it for a couple of years. I just thought that was a cool class—“These are the DIYs.” That would be cool, but I don’t know how you’d enforce that as a policy.

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So I DIY’ed it with this gelding. I went in 2017, and after that, I didn’t have a

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horse to show. I’ve never had a pleasure horse. Even that horse and the one I had before were

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pattern classes. Regardless of how many were in the class, you go and do your pattern by yourself. So we were doing horsemanship, equitation, showmanship—stuff like that.

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I think people mistakenly think pleasure is easy because you’re just walk, trot, and lope.

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But to keep your horse’s cadence exactly the same all the way around, at all three gaits,

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while making that cadence show off their movement on a draped rein with no hand

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contact—while navigating through traffic—is hard. When you put it that way, it sounds tough.

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Even just me out in the pen getting a lesson from Aaron—it was hard. And I think it was

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nice because it was off-camera. You were filming on my phone, but we weren’t trying to make a YouTube video or anything educational. He was able to say,

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“Stop doing that. Don’t do that.” He could be a little harder on me, which I need. Absolutely.

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I think from all the years of horsemanship and equitation and having more hand contact—those

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classes have a shorter rein—I’m used to having my hand a little higher. I’m used to going in

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with my leg and then picking up my hand to steer. But in pleasure, you want to keep your hand down

Why Riding Denver Is So Challenging

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and only use your feet and seat. He was like, “Stop picking your hand up.” And I’m like, “Ah!”

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I went into it knowing there was a high possibility I’d be told, “You can do what you want, but I think it would be a better

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experience for everyone if you rode him more.” And I don’t disagree at all.

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So yeah, it was fun. We rode him both days. It was so freaking hot—like,

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so freaking hot. So we rode him in the morning. The flies were biting. The first day she was fighting for her life out in the flies.

Abigail Rode Denver

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They were attacking my feet and legs. It was crazy. She rode Denver. How was it?

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It was good. I was in shorts and sandals, so it wasn't like a real experience.

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You tried it. He's accommodating. He was good. I want to ride more.

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I'm working on it. If we were going to build another barn on the property—hypothetically—the

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spot where we’d build it has the perfect place for an outdoor arena.

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Hypothetically, if I had a new barn and there’s space for an arena... This year, I kept four

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weanlings. I don’t think I can do that every year, but I didn’t keep them thinking they’d all

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stay as show horses in my barn as five- and six-year-olds. I can only show so many horses.

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But it gives me the opportunity to see how they grow up and which one fits me best,

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which one I get along with the best. Then we can find amazing show homes for the others later.

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Theoretically, you could possibly get a higher price tag that way because they’re ready to go—but that’s not always the case.

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If I have the new barn and an arena, and I’m planning to keep a couple every year to see how they grow, it would probably be more cost-efficient to have—not necessarily a show

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trainer—but a colt starter slash someone to leg up the broodmares we want to ride. Someone on-site.

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If that was the case, I feel like I'd be riding more. Right now,

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I don’t have a lot of time to keep three or four horses legged up by riding and lunging

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them every day. I’m out of town a lot. And the times I do have time to ride,

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I’ll go get on, and I can’t even ride-ride because they’re out of shape. It’s a whole thing.

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So yeah, hypothetically, if that happened, we’d probably have the opportunity to ride more, right?

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Go ahead, submit your applications. I’ll tell you the job description.

We’re Hiring!

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It wouldn’t be like a training job where you’re going down the road showing. A lot of young kids want to learn and then start being on the road showing—which

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is great—but this would probably be for someone who wants to slow down,

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wants consistency. You’re not starting 22 year olds. You’d be starting two- to four-year-olds.

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You’d have two to four yearlings to do groundwork with—lunge, trim,

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tie—all the things. You might make some sale videos. If people are coming to see them,

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then you’re trimming them up and getting them ready. You’d have two to four really good ex-show horses—broodmares or whatever—that are open and

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need to be kept legged up and in shape. So they’re probably being ridden three to four times a week.

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That’s kind of the schedule. You just manage that and be someone to say,

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“Hey Aaron,” or “Hey Jamie,” or whoever I’m sending my two-year-olds to—whether they’re hunt

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seat babies or western babies—and say, “This one is probably what we’re going for. Here’s

Let’s Talk About the Crazy Exotic Animals We Got to See

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another one. Here’s the videos.” Then we figure out what home they go to. I’m just spitballing.

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You need a good eye. Somebody who knows what they’re doing. It can’t just be anyone. It can’t just be someone who puts 10 or 30 days on a colt. I want someone who knows what they’re doing.

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Anyway, while we were in Texas this past weekend,

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Abigail fell in love with an anteater named Lola. She was very sweet and cute. I picked her up.

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You didn’t want to pick her up. I didn’t. I wanted to. She had one of those tails that wrapped around

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your arm—kind of like a rat tail with no hair on it. When I was putting her down,

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her tail wrapped around my arm, and it was such a weird feeling. I liked her. Lola.

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Then we had Kate and Leo—capybaras. Leo has turned straight ginge—like

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full-on cowboy copper. The most perfect shade. I feel like you have a subtle cowboy copper. I could tweak it and get there fast.

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We hung out with the tapirs—Wally and Amy. They’re married. I love them.

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They’re so fun. She said they’re most closely related to rhinos.

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Really? Yeah. They look kind of like mini hippos with their skin texture,

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but their shape is like a big pig. They’re very round. Rhino anteater? It’s interesting.

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We didn’t get to watch them swim, but I’ve seen them swim in the past. Their little nose comes out of the water and it’s so cute.

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We played with the giraffes and got to see baby Finn, who’s about a year old. He was training.

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They have to train them to get their feet done. I mean, how do you go pick up a giraffe foot? You can’t. They’ve got to willingly do it. So they were training him

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to side-pass over. They used clicker training. He’s very food motivated, so they used treats.

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They’d tell him to step and then curl, and he’d step his foot up and curl it so they could rasp it

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and all that good stuff. They were just starting to get him comfortable with brushing his feet.

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We stayed in the giraffe house. I don’t know if it’s still available to rent, but it’s an

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apartment right above the giraffe barn with all these windows. Gerald will come up and see you.

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It’s only one bed, though, so me and Abigail had to snuggle. I hit you in your sleep one night.

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I didn’t notice. I was out. I woke up and was like, “Oh my god, I just smacked the crap out of her.” Because in my

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head—she was on my side of the bed. So, you know how you have your side? When I’m on that side,

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I always lay facing out. I put my arm out and usually smack my phone when the alarm goes off.

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I don’t even know what happened—I just smacked, and it was her.

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Now that you say that, I think I did the same thing. I just don’t think I made contact. I woke up super dazed and was like, “Where am I?”

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I also sleep on the other side of the bed. I don’t know why I picked this side—it was

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closest to the inner wall, away from the window. I just felt safer over there.

Spelling Bee Star

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So, she wanted me to get killed and she was in the middle like a good buffer. Exactly—closest to the door.

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I woke up thinking I was about to hit the

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nightstand and realized it was her. I was like, “Oh, okay.”

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Also, tapirs are related to rhinos and also closely related to horses.

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Because rhinos are closely related to horses. They’re of the order of odd-toed ungulates—rhinos, tapirs, horses, donkeys, zebras.

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Odd-toed ungulates. They have three toes. What a category to be in, right?

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What’s an ungulate? A hoofed mammal. So a horse is an ungulate?

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A horse is an ungulate. New word. Word of the day. Start referring to them like, “Look at that ungulate.”

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My guess is U-N-G-U...That is correct. Yes.

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Did you do spelling bees when you were younger? Wow. Oh my gosh. Because I did too. And it takes one to know one. I did too. I was robbed. And I have a story.

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No one cares. All right. I have a story that my dad still gets mad about when he tells it.

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When it was fresh, it was something we told everyone because we were so angry.

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I think it was also because my dad's dyslexic and he can't spell anything—like, at all. So I think he was really proud that I could spell. In second grade, I was part of the whole school-wide

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spelling bee. It wasn’t just something we did at lunch. Parents were invited. It was a thing.

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I made it all the way to the last two. Oh my.

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I know. Okay. And I already know—I’m so sorry. It's a kid I'm sure is lovely now. Jonathan wrestled with him and

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knows him. He's like, “He's a good guy.” I'm like, “I can't get past it.” This was second grade.

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So he was going to spell a word and then I was going to spell a word. I spelled a word

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incorrectly. If he spelled his word incorrectly, we were going to do another round. I spelled

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mine wrong. He started to spell his word, and the teacher—Miss Lowour—goes, “Uh-uh.”

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No one called this out. This is cheating.

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She goes, “Uh-uh.” Oh my god. My parents were going to destroy her. Like,

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“Are you for real?” He restarted, spelled it correctly, and then they gave him the trophy.

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Oh my gosh. What word did you spell wrong? I don’t remember. I was in the spelling bee and made it to the finals both years we could do it. I

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got out on “obstinate,” and I got out on “choker.”

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Interesting. Yes. And what's crazy—so I was sitting beside a girl, Matteline Long—

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Oh, for naming names—Taylor Warren. Yeah, I was sitting beside Matteline Long. We weren’t supposed to be talking,

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but we were whispering while it wasn’t our turn. She had on a necklace that was

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really tight. I said, “Cool necklace. What is it?” She said, “It’s a choker.” I said,

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“Cool.” Literally, my next word was “choker,” and I spelled it wrong. How did you spell it?

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C-H-O-C-K-E-R. I panicked. Dummy.

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Big dummy. I walked the halls for 30 minutes after that going, “Chocker. Chocker.” A teacher

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walked by and goes, “How do you spell it?” I spelled it right. She goes, “There you go.” Not even my teacher—just some random teacher trying to make me feel better.

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You know what mine was? You’re going to feel better. Mine was in third grade. My word was “scrub.”

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Okay... what happened? I don’t really remember. No—it’s worse than you think. I think I just got ahead of myself. I heard

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the word and was trying to go sit down, and I just—like—I saw the letters in my head.

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That was your first mistake: you saw the numbers. I started with C… “crub.”

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And as soon as I said the C, I was like… I remember not even starting over. I just went, “R-U-B.”

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You know what you needed? You needed a redo. Oh my god.

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Did you have any teachers or substitute teachers where,

Who Married Me and Jonathan

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when your teacher was out, you were just like, “Please don’t be that one”?

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Yeah. There were definitely subs you didn’t want, and there were subs where you were like, “We can get away with anything.”

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Yes. “We’re about to have a fun class.” I’m trying to remember—there were a couple of teachers I really didn’t like,

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but I don’t want to say them. But I had a teacher I loved so much that he married me and Jonathan.

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Wow. Yeah. We had two weddings, and we had both influential people to us marry us. Our first

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wedding was just us—like 15 people. He had his youth pastor, who’s now a pastor of his own

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church, marry us because he wanted someone who was influential during his childhood.

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And then for our big wedding, we had Mr. Blankenship. I had him two years

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in high school. Just absolutely a fantastic person. He was a teacher and also a pastor of his own church, and he married us too, which was really cool.

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Sometimes you have really good teachers. I had multiple really good teachers I loved. I look back and think, “They were awesome.”

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A couple of them came to my birthday parties because I was that weirdo who invited teachers instead of kids. Yeah. You invited the teachers instead of the kids.

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No. Okay, have I told the embarrassing story of my 18th-slash-graduation party on here?

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No one came. I think so. No one came. Oh—Coach Pam came. All the teachers came.

Embarrassing Photo of Me

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It’s okay. I posted a photo last night just to embarrass myself.

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Was it the lenses? The transitions?

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I posted a photo because I wanted to embarrass myself. I was 13 here. Anytime I talk about

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how I got made fun of or whatever—at some point you’re like, “You might’ve needed it.”

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You set yourself up. I let my dad pick out the same glasses he wore for me. I was like,

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“That’s a 13-year-old girl.” And there’s nothing wrong with transitional lenses. If you’ve got sensitive eyes, do it. But it just made me look a little more

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mature than I was at that point—at 13. It was just a little different of an aura.

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And not a bad thing. It’s like the epitome of horse girl.

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It is. Yeah, it is. Middle school horse girl. And you know, you always told these stories about how people would pick

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on you and make fun of you. And then I’d see older photos, and it never made sense in my head. I was like, “She looks kind of cool. She looks like a regular...”

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I could see a time when that one made sense.She looks kind of cool. Like she looks like a regular... like who’s bullying this person?

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I could see a time maybe when that one made sense. Yeah. That one made sense for sure.

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And like I look back at things I would do, and I’m like, “God, I would have wanted to punch me.”

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Like I would have wanted to absolutely make fun of me as well. And I hate to say that because I

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don’t want to be a mean person, but I’m looking at myself and I can say it—I wanted to bully myself.

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This might be too embarrassing... I would go to school and be like, “God,

Embarrassing Stories

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my life is so cool. I’m going to take photos from the weekend. We’re going to pass them around.”

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Pass them around? Like actual photo prints from my horse show. I’d be like,

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“These uncultured swine don’t know what a horse show looks like. I’m going to take this to the teacher—‘This is from this weekend. Can we pass these around the class?’”

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You’re joking. But that’s so pick-me. And then also with my hunting photos—I killed a big buck,

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and I was like, “Everyone needs to see this. Everyone needs to see it.”

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And that was the start of my social media. This is like early social media—pre-Instagram.

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Yeah. I was already doing it. I was like, “This needs to be on everyone’s timeline.” What was the general reaction?

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Bullying. Just like taking it and immediately passing it to the person behind them.

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And then with the horse stuff, there were horse jokes. There were inappropriate horse jokes made

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about what I did in my spare time with them.

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Looking at it... Oh no.

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Intermission. Intermission to let them finish. Would you say that these people did you a favor by bullying?

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Yeah. Looking back, probably. I blame it on a lot of things. I was an only child.

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I didn’t do any extracurriculars with kids my own age. I’d go home and ride my horse. So I probably needed it. Probably did need a little humbling.

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I think it’s just that you were an only child. Me and Nate are going to get absolutely reamed

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in the comments of this video. Like, “You’re still doing it.”

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Oh, that is so funny. Just pass.

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So anyway. Once I got to high school, I legit—I did have one boyfriend,

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but he was the new kid. Like, no one would touch me with a 10-foot pole until college.

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So I had to date outside of school—the new kid. And then no one believed me.

Redemption

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And then no one believes me because I had a glow-up in college. Major glow-up in

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college. I had a roommate and new friends who weren’t from school, and I could reinvent myself. I was like, “I’ve actually been cool for

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a couple years now, but no one would believe me.” So we’re starting here.

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I had an absolute glow-up in college. Then guys from school were like, “Oh, okay.” And

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I had some guys ask me out who had absolutely bullied me in middle school and high school.

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I had a couple of them reach out four or five years ago. Like,

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trying to slide into the DMs. I’m like, “I’m married, dude.” You’re balding now.

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They hit you with the, “No, I always liked you.” Uh-huh. “I just never had the courage to speak up.”

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You made me cry in class and I had to leave.

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“That was because I liked you. I didn’t know how to show it.” There were a couple I’m like, “If I saw you today,

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I’d still be mad at you.” And there were a few girls… okay, there was one girl who was

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so mean. I saw her probably two years into college. Again, the glow-up had happened.

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She had gone to a different college. She was at a restaurant I was at with my family. I ran into her, and the first words out of her

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mouth were not “Hi” or “How are you”—they were, “Oh my god, you’re skinny now.”

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Oh. I was like, “Yeah, I am. Bye.”

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Interesting first sentence. Yeah.Kind of swapping gears a little bit.

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So, we did a video—this will be posted this week—so it was last week that the video was posted of Regina having a man come over.

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The reason we're doing that is, I was totally fine with not breeding her this year because

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I didn't want to sacrifice quality just to have her bred. But the last time we checked

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her and she wasn't pregnant, the vet we use said, “I have multiple miniature clients,

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and one of them told me that if you'd like her number, I can connect you.”

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So we worked that out, and she had a few stallions. I've been kind of considering

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Chandler Marks—who I bought my minis from—as my mini mentor. I'm new to it. You look for different

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things with them than you do with Quarter Horses. They're more like mini Arabians than anything.

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So I sent him some of her stallions and their papers, and there was one he liked. He said, “I have a half-sibling to him through his

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mom. He has a strong dam line, a strong sire line. I like his conformation—do this one.”

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And having a stallion available in town—like 30 minutes away—that could

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be brought to do live cover was great, since she's only ever been live covered. We were trying to AI her, but she's never had that done before.

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So he came yesterday—as of when we’re filming this—so he’s only been here a day. I figured

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let’s pop out there and just take a look at them and see what’s going on.

Let’s Go Check on Regina

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Let’s go check on Gina and Maddox. Jana, Regina—Gina—they’re buddying up. Hanging out.

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He just got here about 26 hours ago, so only a day. Because she wasn't in heat,

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he's been mounting her a lot, but there hasn’t been any actual breeding yet.

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Karen and Coco won’t come into heat, so they were squealing at him, but now they’ve calmed down.

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Okay, they’re just going to be boring. Are y’all in love? He likes him a thick woman.

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He’s breathing hard a little bit. One thing his owner said was to keep an eye on his weight because he’ll work really hard and might lose weight from all the

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activity. So we’ve got to make sure we’re feeding him enough. We have all these little bags that his owner brought with his specific food

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amounts and supplements. She said we might need to up it if he’s working really hard.

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So maybe Regina will get a little thinner. I don’t know. Maybe. Okay, well, that was pretty chill. They’re seemingly in

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love. They’re hanging out together. They’re not really going to give us anything today, I guess. But we’re going to check back in next week—hopefully that’s when magic starts happening.

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So, back to the video. And now we’re back. So that’s fun. We’ll see how that goes. It'll probably be a couple of weeks

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before we know or see anything. I think his presence will bring her into heat a little faster.

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But we won’t know if she’s pregnant for at least 2 to 3 weeks.So yeah, I guess that’s about what kind

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of happened this week. This next week is going to be pretty uneventful. We’re home, so it'll be a couple weeks before we go on our trip. We're just trying to have a normal schedule until then.

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Jack is still cute. Very. Last night, he had his first night outside because

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he and his mom decided to be feral and wouldn’t let me catch them. How’d they do? Fine.

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Cool. She was ready to come in this morning. She was like, “I forgot that you feed me, and I regret my choices.”

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Gretchen is back there with them because we didn’t want her coming into heat and stirring up the stallion or whatever. Karen and Coco are bred, so they won’t come into heat,

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but we didn’t want him trying to breed her through the fence or trying to get to her. So we thought it was best for her to come back behind the shop.

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She’s hanging out with Janice and Jack. Janice is still being very mean to her. As of last night,

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I watched them grazing, but as soon as Gretchen tried to get close—yeah. Mama Janice.

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Anyway, we have an eventful day ahead of us. We’re going to go do some more filming.

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Excuse me—I burped. It’s okay. We’ve got a meeting about a project that y’all will find out more about

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in the coming months. Got all kinds of stuff to do. Let me know if you have any questions. Let us know any topics you'd like us to cover

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in future episodes, or any people you’d like us to invite on in future episodes.

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And if you haven’t already, go check out the KVS merch. This is “First Things

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First.” We’ve got VS Code Red merch. There are all kinds of designs on apparel and—

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She’s using a blanket. That was one of our Christmas blankets. So we’ve got tons of merch. Go check that out at katievanslyke.net,

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and we’ll see you in the next one. That one’s really cool. I never saw that. I would’ve got one.

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Bye.