In the blue corner, we have LinkedIn newsletters and in the red corner, we
Speaker:have off platform email newsletters.
Speaker:Question is listeners, which will win the title for best for B2B businesses.
Speaker:G'day listeners, it is coach Michelle J Raymond, and this week we're going to be
Speaker:talking about all things newsletters, and it's really top of mind for me because
Speaker:it's something that I kind of in the back of my mind, know, I should have always
Speaker:had one since I started my business.
Speaker:And guess what?
Speaker:It's coming up to nearly five years and I have never got one started off LinkedIn.
Speaker:I have got one on LinkedIn, but it's taken me up until now to finally
Speaker:wrap my head around why I should be doing it, be in the right space
Speaker:for it and actually get it done.
Speaker:That's right listeners.
Speaker:It is now crossed off my to do list.
Speaker:Thank you Lil for all of your help as always and shout out to
Speaker:Louise Deed over in New Zealand.
Speaker:She was the one that actually got me to set it up and not gonna lie, there's a
Speaker:little bit of argy bargy because the last thing that I ever want is to send out
Speaker:something to people that annoys them.
Speaker:That for some reason they're like, stop sending me and hitting that
Speaker:unsubscribe, which is what I find myself doing more and more lately.
Speaker:And, on the other hand, this is where I'm conflicted.
Speaker:One, I don't want to send out, you know, stuff that people don't find valuable.
Speaker:On the other side, I don't want people to miss out on all of the
Speaker:cool stuff that I've got for them.
Speaker:All the tips and strategies that will help them grow their business.
Speaker:So let's have a look at this today.
Speaker:We're going to have a look at pros and cons between LinkedIn newsletters and
Speaker:also the newsletters off the platform.
Speaker:So before we do that listeners, let's have a a quick word
Speaker:from our sponsors Metricool.
Speaker:Let's dive straight into the pros and cons of LinkedIn newsletters.
Speaker:Here's why I love mine.
Speaker:Ever since I started my LinkedIn personal one, I've gathered eight
Speaker:and a half thousand subscribers.
Speaker:And I love the fact that every time somebody reaches out to connect with
Speaker:me, they are automatically invited to become a subscriber to the newsletter.
Speaker:So LinkedIn is actively helping me to get more and more subscribers, which I love.
Speaker:It's on autopilot.
Speaker:It's not another job that I need to do.
Speaker:And so the more that I build my personal brand, the more people
Speaker:reach out and connect, the more newsletter subscribers that I get.
Speaker:So that's a huge tick for me.
Speaker:But possibly even bigger tick was just how easy it was to set up.
Speaker:So starting your newsletter on LinkedIn, I love that it's free.
Speaker:So that's always a big bonus.
Speaker:I love that it takes only a few minutes to actually set up and you
Speaker:get some reasonable features in there.
Speaker:Like we can embed this podcast episode, YouTube videos that I make, we can have
Speaker:images, so they're quite rich formats.
Speaker:It means that the newsletter is not really boring.
Speaker:You can make it come alive.
Speaker:So that's another reason that I love it.
Speaker:And the thing that LinkedIn does, like, how cool is this?
Speaker:If you didn't know the very first newsletter that goes out for
Speaker:you goes to every single one of your connections and followers.
Speaker:Now that is a massive free kick.
Speaker:It is the only time listeners on LinkedIn that something like that happens.
Speaker:If you're doing a newsletter on your Company Page, and then it will
Speaker:go to all of your Page followers, and that's a massive advantage.
Speaker:So I've discovered in working with my clients across the
Speaker:board that you can expect to get roughly 30 percent subscriber rate
Speaker:based out of your total number.
Speaker:So if you have 3000 connections and followers, then you could expect
Speaker:to get around a thousand newsletter subscribers, which I think is pretty cool.
Speaker:It's such a fast way to get started with your newsletter.
Speaker:I love the fact that these newsletters are indexed by Google.
Speaker:So not only can my newsletter get discovered on LinkedIn, I can
Speaker:piggyback off LinkedIn's credibility and basically have it show up when
Speaker:people are doing Google searches.
Speaker:And I've had people reach out and connect.
Speaker:It's often why you see people are engaging with your newsletter long
Speaker:after it's ever been published.
Speaker:And you think.
Speaker:Wow.
Speaker:How did they stumble across that?
Speaker:So that's another cool thing that I like about it.
Speaker:So there's, so many pros going on here and I think, you know,
Speaker:the main one is that I've already built my community on LinkedIn.
Speaker:I've built my credibility on LinkedIn.
Speaker:And so from this perspective, it's easy to just leverage that.
Speaker:Now, upside, downside and everything, you know, I love to give you both sides.
Speaker:What are the downsides of a LinkedIn newsletter?
Speaker:Probably the most obvious one is that I don't own the subscriber list.
Speaker:So I can't get in and download a list of emails.
Speaker:I'll never own that.
Speaker:I can go in and see who has, I can make sure that I'm connected to them.
Speaker:I can have conversations.
Speaker:There's lots of other cool things that I can do with this.
Speaker:But I can't use it off the platform.
Speaker:Now, if LinkedIn was to do something where they decided that they wanted to
Speaker:change the algorithm or pull the plug on newsletters altogether, then I'm
Speaker:going to be in a world of pain, right?
Speaker:Like no other words for it.
Speaker:I think I would rock in a corner and start crying.
Speaker:So please LinkedIn, hear our prayers, do not get rid of LinkedIn newsletters.
Speaker:Now, the good news is listeners.
Speaker:I don't think they're going to do that.
Speaker:They're backing LinkedIn newsletters and have been very strong around
Speaker:those reasons of being, it's a great tool for thought leadership.
Speaker:So it can really help B2B buyers through that journey by sharing, you
Speaker:know, extended thoughts, beyond the short form that comes with posts.
Speaker:The other thing that it's not so great at is I would say analytics.
Speaker:I think when you can't access things like open rates or how far down they
Speaker:read, you really don't have a lot of tools to work out did people like this?
Speaker:What's resonating?
Speaker:Are they just opening it and not going down and actually reading it?
Speaker:And, that makes it tricky to ever improve.
Speaker:So yes, we can go by our number of impressions or the comments and
Speaker:things like that, that are happening.
Speaker:But for me, realistically, there's not a lot of really in depth
Speaker:analytics that we can go into.
Speaker:The other thing is you don't have as many of the kind of cool, smart
Speaker:features that you get for LinkedIn newsletters as what you would get for
Speaker:some of the other platforms that are more dedicated newsletter platforms.
Speaker:And so from that perspective, I can't, tag where people come from.
Speaker:I can't tag them into specific channels so that I can really personalise
Speaker:my newsletters and target them more specifically in the future.
Speaker:So, you know, There are some downsides.
Speaker:So upside downsides, as I said, I was going to share, but ultimately
Speaker:for me, I found that the LinkedIn newsletter is something that
Speaker:is a cornerstone of what I do.
Speaker:I'm sending one on my personal page every single week.
Speaker:As soon as a new episode goes live of this podcast, there's a newsletter
Speaker:that accompanies that as well.
Speaker:So it's a really great way for me to cross promote things and
Speaker:leverage my LinkedIn community.
Speaker:So if LinkedIn newsletters are so good, why did I go and invest in setting
Speaker:up my own newsletter off LinkedIn?
Speaker:Okay, so let's talk about email newsletters that happen off LinkedIn.
Speaker:Now I'm certainly no expert.
Speaker:I've just shared, I've only gotten started this week.
Speaker:So I'm going to share the link for my brand new off
Speaker:LinkedIn newsletter with you.
Speaker:It is b2bgrowthco.com/newsletter is where you'll find it.
Speaker:And I'm going to share the links into the show notes as well.
Speaker:And so here we are listeners brand new newsletter off LinkedIn.
Speaker:Why is it necessary?
Speaker:What are the pros?
Speaker:Well ultimately I'm going to own the list of people that
Speaker:subscribe up to that newsletter.
Speaker:So I'll have full control over that data.
Speaker:If social media platforms change their mind, it doesn't matter.
Speaker:I've still got access to all of these details.
Speaker:I can still stay in contact with my community, which I love.
Speaker:So it's really an insurance policy from that side of things.
Speaker:Now, as you're building up that list, there are a lot more smart features, a lot
Speaker:more targeting, a lot better analytics.
Speaker:When you think about it, really, obviously a platform that is specifically built
Speaker:around newsletters is going to have a lot more features than something where it's
Speaker:a bit of a nice to have over on LinkedIn.
Speaker:So from that perspective, there's so much upside.
Speaker:And especially, as I said, things like analytics, where you get to see
Speaker:open rates, see what's resonating.
Speaker:I could see how very quickly and easily that you can start to build
Speaker:up a pretty cool subscriber base.
Speaker:And give them a product that they actually find valuable.
Speaker:And that's the thing that I, I don't think LinkedIn can compete with at this
Speaker:point in time is there's no way of really telling what's working or what's not.
Speaker:So that makes it a bit tricky from my perspective.
Speaker:Another upside for newsletters that are sent off LinkedIn.
Speaker:I think people treat them differently when they're signing up for something.
Speaker:And I think we either value them or we're ruthless and unsubscribe.
Speaker:So those people that find them valuable, remain loyal.
Speaker:And they are going to have a higher chance of converting into new customers.
Speaker:And so that's something that I'm always looking for.
Speaker:How can we use our community to stay in touch, stay top of mind, not fight
Speaker:the algorithms over on LinkedIn land, like it seems to be all the time.
Speaker:LinkedIn's getting more crowded.
Speaker:I'm competing for more attention.
Speaker:Maybe LinkedIn decides that it's the year of short form video, which is looking
Speaker:very much likely what they're pushing.
Speaker:So newsletters slide down a little bit in features and maybe I have to
Speaker:look at where I'm spending my time.
Speaker:Now, from that perspective, there is lots of upside for
Speaker:these newsletters off LinkedIn.
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:But here's the thing, how long will it take me to build my brand
Speaker:new newsletter off LinkedIn?
Speaker:So it's going to require me to be actively promoting all the time,
Speaker:talking about it, whether it's in this podcast, in my posts, in conversations.
Speaker:Making sure that I've got some methods for drawing people
Speaker:into this new subscriber list.
Speaker:I think it's going to take years for me to get anywhere near the eight
Speaker:and a half thousand subscribers that I've got on LinkedIn.
Speaker:And it's probably like building a podcast.
Speaker:When you first start out, you've got zero listeners and it
Speaker:takes time and it takes effort.
Speaker:And it takes a lot of focus to actively try and promote the podcast, and I think
Speaker:it's the same with the newsletter, If you want to grow those subscribers.
Speaker:Is it worth the effort?
Speaker:Absolutely.
Speaker:But will I always have the time and energy in my business to consistently do this?
Speaker:Time will tell and obviously this is something that I'm adding into my workload
Speaker:and I've got Lil helping me, but I want to make sure that we make the most of
Speaker:this, now that it's all been set up.
Speaker:The other kind of con for me in my mind is that I often think who
Speaker:needs another email in their life?
Speaker:Do people really want to subscribe to another newsletter?
Speaker:And I feel like when you're competing for attention in their inbox, and with
Speaker:all of the automatic filtering that goes on these days with emails and making
Speaker:sure that things get delivered, they're some of the question marks for me.
Speaker:And if you've got any thoughts on this, or this is your area of expertise, reach
Speaker:out and connect with me on LinkedIn.
Speaker:What are your tips for getting around some of these issues that I've got
Speaker:going on in my mind, some of these thoughts, and these are genuinely
Speaker:the roadblocks that have been coming up for me over the last five years.
Speaker:But then the other side of me and what Louise said to me was Michelle.
Speaker:Like you never do anything that's not of value or in service of your audience.
Speaker:And if someone unsubscribes, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker:They just unsubscribed.
Speaker:It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker:So I've had to reframe how I see this and just know that I'm going to put my heart
Speaker:and soul into these things, just like I do with everything else to make sure that you
Speaker:walk away with tips that you can action, strategies that will make a difference
Speaker:and really stay on top of how you can use LinkedIn to grow your business.
Speaker:So we've got the pros and cons between LinkedIn newsletters, and we've
Speaker:got the pros and cons between email newsletters, but is there a third option
Speaker:that we need to be thinking about?
Speaker:I think if we were to review the pros and cons of each of these newsletter
Speaker:formats, we would find that things would come out reasonably even.
Speaker:And there would be people that would pick a side, but ultimately I think they're
Speaker:both cool tools that we should be using.
Speaker:And I think the actual real winning solution here is a hybrid.
Speaker:It is a combination of using both.
Speaker:And for some of you might be thinking, Oh my God, Michelle, I can't do even more.
Speaker:How am I going to ever have a LinkedIn newsletter, an email
Speaker:newsletter and do all the other things that I've got to get done?
Speaker:And I hear you, I'm in exactly the same boat as you, but there's
Speaker:nowhere that says that you can't repurpose one way or the other.
Speaker:My friend Irit, she just got started.
Speaker:She's got a really amazing email newsletter that she
Speaker:puts a lot of effort into.
Speaker:I find it really valuable and it's something that I'm subscribed to.
Speaker:And I always walk away going, I'm so glad that I read that.
Speaker:And I said to her, why don't you share that on LinkedIn as well?
Speaker:Because there are people over there that would really love it.
Speaker:And maybe it's a different way of reaching audiences at different times.
Speaker:They may or may not see one or the other.
Speaker:And there's a concern that most people come with, but isn't it duplication?
Speaker:Will Google hate me because I've got two lots of the same information?
Speaker:No, no, No.
Speaker:The world's not going to end if you repurpose your content.
Speaker:For me, my LinkedIn newsletters have previously also been turning
Speaker:into articles, for my blog on my website, and now I'm going to be
Speaker:taking some of the information that's in my LinkedIn newsletter
Speaker:and putting that in my other one.
Speaker:Now, my email newsletter is not going to be exactly the same, and
Speaker:I'm still planning exactly what that might look like, but I want it to be
Speaker:short and sharp and have things that people can actually take away and go.
Speaker:Yep, I can do that.
Speaker:It doesn't matter how busy I am.
Speaker:That is something I can take action on because I can see that's going to
Speaker:get me closer to my business goals.
Speaker:So I don't think that we have to choose a side.
Speaker:I think the option is.
Speaker:How can we leverage the best bits of both to get more growth for our business?
Speaker:And as marketers, if you are responsible for your email newsletter
Speaker:off the platform, you could easily promote your LinkedIn newsletter
Speaker:on that and vice versa, depending what your business goals are.
Speaker:So if you've got KPIs to grow your newsletter off LinkedIn, then why not use
Speaker:your LinkedIn community to get you there?
Speaker:I worked with one client, they have 150,000 Page subscribers.
Speaker:Overnight, we got about 25,000 subscribers for their LinkedIn
Speaker:newsletter, which was mind blowing.
Speaker:And fast forward a few months, it's pushing up to close to 50,000 subscribers.
Speaker:Now that is not a number that anyone would sneeze at.
Speaker:That is a captive audience.
Speaker:We know that every time that newsletter goes out, LinkedIn's notifying
Speaker:all 50,000 of those subscribers.
Speaker:So you're not fighting the home feed algorithm.
Speaker:So for those of you who don't have a Company Page newsletter, but are
Speaker:actively growing your Company Page absolutely make sure that your newsletter
Speaker:is a part of this because it's such a great way to engage your community.
Speaker:So the question is, listeners, are you on the blue team for LinkedIn newsletters?
Speaker:Or are you on the red team for email newsletters?
Speaker:Or is there a new team that we should be joining, which is the green team,
Speaker:which is all about the hybrid approach.
Speaker:And I think that's the one that resonates with me taking the best of the tools
Speaker:that we have available to us, repurposing so we're not drowning in extra work.
Speaker:And for me, it's just another way that I can make sure that I'm staying
Speaker:top of mind with my community.
Speaker:I'm sharing information that will make a difference to them.
Speaker:And ultimately, so when they're ready to buy, who do they think of?
Speaker:B2B Growth Co Michelle J Raymond.
Speaker:And that is exactly how these things are designed to work.
Speaker:So as we wrap up today's episode, I have one other super cool announcement.
Speaker:For those of you who are listeners to the podcast in Denmark and around
Speaker:that area, I am coming back to speak at the Linked Summit in May.
Speaker:I cannot wait to come back.
Speaker:I would love to see you.
Speaker:It's just such a fabulous event.
Speaker:So if you haven't been before there's a reason that I'm flying to the other
Speaker:side of the world again, six weeks later, after I get back from speaking at
Speaker:Uplift Live and Social Media Marketing World, cause it is worth that effort.
Speaker:So I hope to see you there.
Speaker:So until next week, cheers.