Black Don't Crack

Shannon: [00:00:00] I'm

shannon.

Lisa: And I'm Lisa, and you're listening to Blacktivities, A Celebration of all things black, black

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Shannon: Welcome to Blacktivities. I'm your host Shannon, here with my co-host Mona Lisa. Hey y'all. Now my mom just turned 65, so she is officially a senior citizen. But Grandma Cordia don't look like y'all grandma.

Lisa: No. No she don't baby.

Shannon: Today we are talking about aging while black and that phrase that we use often black don't crack.

But before we do that, go ahead and hit that follow [00:01:00] button in your podcast app so that you can get the rest of this season automatically downloaded and ready to go next Thursday.

Lisa: Yes. Make sure you go and do that. So, The Oscars was a couple days ago, right? Mm-hmm. and online and social media people were in an uproar with claims that Angela Bassett was snubbed once again for her role in Wakanda forever.

She was okay. Now, I don't wanna take anything from Jamie Lee Curtis. I'm a Jamie Lee Curtis. , um, Jamie Lee Curtis did win over Angela Bassett again for best supporting actress in, what's the movie called? Everywhere. Everything, all the Time or something like that. Something like that. Yeah. Now I'm the side note.

I read that somebody said, it ain't fair she won an award for Halloween 60 , but we not gonna do that. We, we not gonna do that. Her supporting role in Halloween 60. Yeah. We not, we not even finna do Jamie Lee like that. Okay. [00:02:00] on top of people, you know, being upset that Angela did not get that award. They kept commenting on her look and how she killed it.

And she did. Yes. Especially that purple dress.

Shannon: Yes. That was beautiful.

Lisa: Mm-hmm. . And you see her twins, they was kinda like dressed like her. Her husband Vance or Lance didn't say that. Okay. So L'Oreal from um, the Head Crack morning show said that Angela looked better than younger actresses. And others that attended the.

Her skin, I have to say was flawless body was perfect. And the fact that she is talented makes it even better. Oh yeah, she look good. Yes. Yes. So before we jump a little bit more into that, and I want you to, you know, give me your thoughts on that. Let's, uh, let's give them a little SAC's Facts.

Shannon: Let's talk about [00:03:00] melanin. Melanin is a natural sticky pigment your skin makes and eumelanin, spelled with a e. U is the type of melanin that makes our skin darker. The more you melanin you have in your skin, the darker your skin will be. Melanin is like built-in sunscreen. It protects us from UV rays and white people produce less melanin, obviously, which makes them more susceptible to the effects of the sun's rays without sunscreen.

Did you know that Asian people actually produce a different type of melanin? No. Theirs is called pheomelanin,

Lisa: P h Wait, wait, wait. E O. Wait, wait, wait. So we got Melanin U, eumelanin. How did I say that? You melanin. U u melanin. I know. I'm not saying it correctly. And then we got Theo, say the last one. pheomelanin.

Yes, I did not know that, but go ahead. It's different [00:04:00] types of melanin. I see that now.

Shannon: Okay. Yes. Now it's not just melanin that makes us age. It's also the type of collagen that our skin produces, and that's not the same collagen that people inject into their face. Um, but it has denser and more numerous fibers that don't break down as quickly and make our skin less prone to sun damage.

So we've got double the protection from the sun. On top of that, we typically have a higher oil content, which acts as a natural skin hydration system. And the outer layers of our skin have more fat content that sits on top of our facial bones, that maintain their support for longer, which means less wrinkles for

Lisa: us.

Yes, baby, you hit it, but before

Shannon: you go thinking it's all good. Black skin is more prone to discoloration, dark spots [00:05:00] and pigmentation like melasma from sun exposure and hormonal effects, as well as keloids, which I have a few. Keloids I, yeah,

Lisa: I have a huge one on my arm. Yes. However, I

Shannon: think it might be safe to say that it is a little harder to crack that black, and that's SAC's Facts.

Lisa: You know who made it. Wow. I just learned some things today, guys. I just thought that we just had just the melon and then that's it. Boom. It don't get no better than that. Haha. You ain't got it. Boom. But just found out, I mean, there's different types. So I need to tone it down just a little bit. , I need to tone it down.

But back to what we saying with, [00:06:00] uh, Angela Bassett and her whole look like how, what, what are your views when it comes to, you know, with her age and her look? We going, we gonna put the snub thing situation aside. That'll be a different episode. But how do you feel

Shannon: about it? Yeah, she looks great. Like, I feel like she's only gotten better look-wise, right?

Since she came on the scene. She glowed up

Lisa: since Tina baby. I, yeah. I can't do nothing with her now. He can't do nothing with her. Now let me, you know that, lemme tell you. Do you do that little move like, you know, you do that little move where your shoulders go up and down like she was doing when she was Tina.

When I get excited, that's what I do with my little, my little move. You gotta shake a little tail feather. Yeah. I don't do that. That's how I used to dance when I got. I got income tax.

I used to do that. Little move when them taxes hit. Not no more. [00:07:00] Uh, you sitting here quiet like a mug. I still

Shannon: gotta do, mine

Lisa: did. Hey, I did. I wasn't happy, but I ain't going, I ain't gonna pull us, I ain't gonna get us off topic. But y'all go make sure y'all get y'all taxes then.

Shannon: So Lisa. Does that phrase black don't crack?

Does it put some extra pressure on you as a black woman who is aging to

Lisa: look good? To be honest with you, me personally answering this question, I will say no. Okay. Because you have to think of the way that we look now. I mean, even if we have some little, like, what's the word I'm looking for? Something that's off about us, the world will find some type of way to make it a trend or to make it part of the A style or you, you'll see a TikTok or something about it.

So when it comes to, you know, the way I look and what I got going on, like I joined [00:08:00] the, the, the team where I shaved all my hair off. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. , and of course it took me years to do that. I think more it lies. It lies more with our confidence. And I don't think us as black women, we don't care what nobody say cuz we black women, baby.

Shannon: I mean, to a certain extent we do because we wouldn't get, you know, the butt shots and the BBLs and

Lisa: stuff. But we had it naturally though. It's just some, some women, they just go to the extreme now. I understand. That's other point. Yeah, I can understand. Like, okay, she ain't got no at all. Okay.

Shannon: Mine's a mine and she wanna enhance it.

I feel like mine is. Started dwindling as I've aged

Lisa: it, it happens, it happens sometime. That little, that little stomach front get the doing too much.

Shannon: It ain't sitting like

Lisa: it was. Right. Right. And that's where it's on us to make sure that we're taking care of ourselves, but do it for ourself, not [00:09:00] because of what society has, you know, what they expect of us.

Ha. Have you noticed, um, I don't know if you follow her. I, I highly doubt you do Black Chyna. I don't follow her, but I know like, okay, so I just recently start, well, I followed her yesterday Cause of the news, because of Shade Room . Yeah. Shout out the shade room. Well, they posted that she know she was going through to where she was doing the whole breast augmentation.

Like she was making her boobs smaller and she's taken away from her. and then somebody in the comments was like, yeah, but you need to do something about their face. And she was like, oh, I'm working on that too. Meaning like her lip fillers and all of that. Like she finna get that shit removed.

Shannon: Yeah, cuz she's really a pretty girl.

She like, to me, made herself look worse with all the surgeries and stuff. She started looking like a, she was pretty

Lisa: before. After a while, you get all that shit in your face and you start looking like the little Saw, little [00:10:00] puppet

Shannon: I thought you were gonna say everybody start looking like Michael

Lisa: Jackson. Oh, that too. Cause baby his nose at the end, lemme tell you. Don't talk about Michael Jackson. But baby that nose at the end, it like it were peeling too. Like the skin was peeling off of it. Bless it. That man. Bless his heart. Let me stop.

Shannon: But another point too is, Other cultures of women try to alter their, um, bodies and facial features to look like ours.

Lisa: Of course, of course. And that's why I was gonna go at a angle of that's why we, we are not worried about us is because we're, we're always going to be the latest trend. , like we have it there.

We're always, I don't wanna say we're always gonna be the thicker or the prettier. It's not, it's nothing like that because every, no matter what culture you're in, you know you have that thing about you, but we [00:11:00] always inspire somehow, some way. Mm-hmm. even when it comes down to, you know, other ethnicities, getting box braids and they're locking their hair up and you know.

Mm-hmm. So no matter what we do, We are, we're gonna be trending.

Shannon: But I do admit

aging is a thing in itself. Like I mm-hmm. , I look at pictures of me when I was younger mm-hmm. , and the way I looked and the way my body looked. And I'm like, dang. Like how did I get.

Lisa: Well see. It's different for me cuz I, when I was younger, I was like the super pudgy kid. I was always quiet and then I done gained some of it back.

But I, I went to a, that was a period where I had lost 150 pounds and baby you couldn't tell me nothing. because I work hard, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I really [00:12:00] work hard. Like I was running like four miles. Girl, I could not run no four miles right now, girl. I'd be out the quarter of a mile laying out in the middle of the street.

Mm-hmm. right now. But it's on us though guys. . Yeah, we can do

Shannon: this. Yeah, it's on us. We just gotta work a little harder cause um, it don't fall off like it used to. No, it it show damn. I don't know. Just like looking, even just the way my face looks. Mm-hmm. looks different to me and I'm

Lisa: just like, but it's gonna be that.

Like that. Cause we're hard on ourself. No, we're hard on ourself too. That's shame. We're hard on ourself. You sit, y'all don't listen to, don't listen to Shannon. She's sitting up here talking like she drank a michel lobe every night. , like she be running the streets. I might. Girl, bye. Anyway, her, her skin is clear.

She takes very good care of herself. So don't, don't sit here. Don't pull out your violin [00:13:00] for her. Don't do that. Well, my

Shannon: stuff doesn't have anything to do with black. Don't crack. I think it's a more of like a aging thing that I'm having to come to terms with. And then, you know, after you have kids, your body don't look the same.

No, it don't. So I think it's more of that kind of

Lisa: stuff. Yeah, I, okay. I guess I can agree with you on there. There's been times where I don't put on like a dress or something and I'm like, hold on, this dress ain't dressing like it was dressing, you know, a couple years ago. Mm-hmm. and then, you know, you gotta slide it on back to the closet

So. Okay. So I know I'm sitting here and I'm getting, I'm talking mad. Um, a lot of you know, junk right now. A lot of trash. , do you feel it's a, uh, superiority complex to possibly have some type of royalty to where we feel like we're better because of this whole black on [00:14:00] crack thing? Hmm.

Shannon: I can see how some people would take it that way.

Mm-hmm. , I think I look at it more like it's just a gift of being black. Mm-hmm. , I mean, one of the. .

Lisa: Mm-hmm. . So how would you react if there was, okay, so would you say, and tell me if this is like, Hey Lisa, you need to calm down cause that's not the same . Let me know. So would this be equivalent to, let's say, okay, you got, let's say a Caucasian.

Gentleman talking about his boats and yachts and you know what he's did to work hard for it. And you know, he's sitting there like, you know, distinguished with his, you know, duck head shorts on. You know, I gotta paint a picture, his duck head shorts and his button down and you know, but the button down his sleeve is like rolled up

Shannon: his Hawaiian uh shirt.

Cause [00:15:00] Tori says that. You know, the, the real rich people, they wear them Hawaiian shirts, the Hawaiian shirt, or that's

Lisa: how you know No, I drive like old

Shannon: beat up trucks. You know what? The ones with the real money, I can't. I

Lisa: can't, man. Okay. I have to agree because there are some people that I do know that got long paper, but when you look at them, you wouldn't, you wouldn't be able to.

But go back to my story though. You can't take this from me. So in my story, , let's say, you know, his name is Brad and he's just talking about, you know, his yachts and what they did over the weekend compared to Miss, you know, Tanika. They just had her third grandbaby and she over there, you know, with her hair, she just combed her hair out of a wrap and her skin's just glistening.

And she's like, baby, y'all can't touch [00:16:00] me. You can't touch nothing I got going on. You can, you can't beat me. And she happy cuz she taking care of herself. So is that the same though, like far as like the confidence where you have that confidence? Were you bragging on yourself?

Shannon: I don't, I wouldn't take that as bragging.

I think it's just confidence. .

Lisa: Okay. Well, I have to say sometimes when us having that confidence and we are embracing what we have been given, it is taken the wrong way. Because anytime we do express confidence, well just the, I don't wanna say aggression, but just showing that we're stern on it, we're look like we are just doing too much.

Shannon: I mean, I think that's just the perception. Like I wonder if when I'm walking around here mm-hmm. in my, you know, black and [00:17:00] brilliant hoodie. Okay. Okay. Or a black queen shirt. Like, do they feel like they being, like other races feel like I'm being extra or bragging or saying I'm superior to them? .

Lisa: I don't, that was my thoughts because we walk around, we say we queens all the time.

Like how often do you see a Caucasian woman or a Hispanic woman was like, I am a queen, a Hispanic queen. Like, it's very rare. I don't think I've ever, I'm a, I'm a white queen. I'm pretty sure that was possibly said, you know, years ago, but I'm just saying. We don't hear that from other ethnicities. So for us, I think it's taken the wrong way because we have to use these affirmations for ourself, right?

Considering the cards and the thing, you know, the, the, the cards we were dealt. So [00:18:00] instead of them thinking of it and you have someone challenge you, you know? or look at you up and down because you have on your hoodie that say black and brilliant, you just let them know, baby, these are affirmations for myself.

It ain't got nothing to do with you. Right. Yeah.

Shannon: Yeah. So, and it's more about the history and how typically we were not painted as brilliant or we were not exactly painted us kings and queens and you know, we were painted as quite the opposite. So, um, to me it's more of like, putting down the stereotypes that historically existed.

Lisa: Mm-hmm. . Oh yeah. I like that. We need to put that on the shirt. Hey. Okay. ideas. Yeah. . So he put that on the shirt. What,

Shannon: what do you think actually makes black crack

Lisa: crack shit meth?[00:19:00]

girl, lemme tell y'all something. Black people leave that meth for, for the other folks and I, I hope y'all, y'all stop it. But do crackhead still? I feel like they

Shannon: do. I feel like we just don't see 'em where we live.

Lisa: Oh, maybe we need to post that. Do people still smoke crack

What do people do now if they don't smoke crack? It's meth. It's meth. Meth is, yeah, meth. And then how do they say they p Perks? Oh girl. If I hear somebody say that one time, what's that one song? Pop 10 Pop. The per 30 sip said. Baby. I ain't gonna judge them cuz baby, when I get in here, I pop my vitamins in my little seizure medicine.

I been here out to the wind. Mm. I ain't gonna judge them. But, um, the uh, forest us and black cracking is how we take care of ourself.

Shannon: I [00:20:00] think so too. I think stress is probably another Exactly. Big factor. Mm-hmm. . You ever seen somebody that like you just look at 'em and you look like they look like they had a hard life

Lisa: girl?

No, that ain't how we say it. Say it how we said it. That's how I say it. Oh, well. I said girl, that girl hell, she look like shit. , fuck she got going on and you got the paper. What's going on? You ok. Girl, I ain't had time to get my hair done and my baby dad. And, and then here comes an outpour of the stress.

And you know what guys? If you in a position, just listen to 'em. Just listen to 'em. Cause sometimes most people just need you to listen. But if they don't crack, run , just run. But. I think more or less, yes, the stress, and then also to physically how we're taking care of our bodies. Um, this may be a dumb question, and I [00:21:00] hope y'all don't come after me, but marijuana, does that have an effect on the body, like after a while, like memory or anything like that?

I do not know.

Shannon: Mm mm.

Lisa: Why are you in trouble? No, no, no, no, no. I can't, I can't do it. Mm-hmm. I can't be smelling like that, but I'm just, I'm just curious because what I, what I'm doing is I'm sitting here and I'm thinking about the different ways of our culture, what we're keen to do, and there is a lot of people that do smoke marijuana to ease, you know, their pain, um, or whatever they got going on just to relax.

I ain't gonna say pain, just to relax. Far as another physical thing, the way that we eat. Mm-hmm. . Okay. Um, considering our cultures, we are taught to eat heavy. Um, which, and the sodium, which could bring on the high blood pressure that just affects people randomly now. And we like, dang, I thought I was doing pretty good and all of a sudden, boom.

Um, but I have my theories on that though. I [00:22:00] feel like sometimes certain boxes just be throwing that shit on people though. Mm. . Maybe that's just me. It sound like it's just me, but, okay. . But, um, I have to say though, like, uh, anything else you think that far as the black don't cry. What, what, what else is affecting us?

Because I think stress was like dead on. Yeah.

Shannon: I think stress is the number one.

Lisa: Yeah. Stress is dead on.

Shannon: All right, well, are you ready for a little

Lisa: black activity? Let's go. Let's get it. What we doing?

Shannon: All right, so we're gonna play black. Don't crack. Okay. You gotta guess people's ages, and I'll tell you like we did back in the day. Whether you hot or cold, you remember doing that back in the day. [00:23:00]

Lisa: Let's get, I have to take a little sip of my, um, I'm just having a look. This is a, a dessert. It's a banana pudding cream moonshine.

Oh. With, so with sonic ice in it. I mean, I

Shannon: thought I was doing something with my little

Lisa: glass of wine, but yeah. Moonshine, I can't beat that one out. It's pretty good. Shout out to Old Smokey Moon. Sean. Hit us up

Okay. I'm trying to get my glasses. I'm ready. I'm ready, y'all. Y'all should see her over here fighting with these damn glasses on, baby. She telling her age. Braids, ,

Shannon: and headphones. Don't worry. Okay. Okay. We just gonna do it like this. I can't get 'em on.

Lisa: Okay. All right.

Shannon: Okay. Our first person is the beautiful

Lisa: Iman.

Iman. Okay. So Iman had to been out there [00:24:00] walking with Grace Jones, right? Mm-hmm. . So, oh, Gracie, she up there, but she still look the exact same. That's another, like, she not. Can we go with a, uh, let's do like a 72, 72 years old.

Shannon: Boom. Mm. That's a little warm,

Lisa: but 76. Other way. 74 going down, 75, 70. Down 70. Down 70, 71 down.

The bitch ain't Uhuh. She ain't that young? Nope. , she's 67. Oh, okay. Hold on.[00:25:00]

Dancer for Brown. That bitch ain't that young. No, I'm just playing . I was like, I didn't, I didn't heard that one. I was just playing. I was just playing. Ok. I'm ready for the day. So let. What

Shannon: about uh, baby face? Pharrell?

Lisa: Oh, Pharrell looks now you notice

Shannon: the same. Exactly

Lisa: the same, right? Don't wanna sound fool myself.

Rude. Um, he ain't that old. Uh, he ain't as old. Oh. Like, I still wanna say he's in our, well, nah, he's passed our circle 45. That's warm. Okay, so let's go up 47, up some more. He can't be in his fifties yet. 49. He's 49. 49. All right. Okay. Yep.

Shannon: What about, uh [00:26:00] oh, pretty Ricky, Rick,

Lisa: Fox. Okay. Becky with the good hair.

Let's do. 60. Mm. You gotta come down some. All right. 55, just a little bit more. 53? Mm-hmm. 53. Ok. Yep. Go ahead, Mr. Fox. Stunt on these holes.

Shannon: now. Harry Belafonte?

Lisa: Nah, this nigga. Oh, okay. So this. Okay, so we gonna do, he ain't a hundred yet. Let's do like 91 or 92 or something like that, up a little bit. 96? Yes, that's it.

96. 96. Oh, Harry. Okay. [00:27:00] Sing her something. Harry Sing. Happy Birthday to us. I know. , I bet he was cold with the, with the ladies back then. Boy. He called over that little smokey voice. Oh yeah. Um, Halle Berry Hall. Berry. Hall Berry. She in her fifties. She gotta be like 52 go up. She, oh, she older than that. Mm-hmm.

56.

Shannon: Yep. That's it. Seriously? Mm-hmm. ,

Lisa: lemme tell y'all I wanna, I wish I could age as gracefully as her. Uh, Ms. Berry here. I want my boobs to sit up like that, how she was in sore fish. . I can dream. Wait till I get some coin. You gonna be to tell me nothing? Y'all might as well go ahead and follow us on all our social media cuz baby, when I get 'em fixed, [00:28:00] boom, , and guess what?

It ain't gonna be income tax money either. All saved. Boom. Now what? Sugar daddy? I ain't, I don't have the energy . I can't even do it because after a while, sugar Daddy gonna want some sugar and I just, I, I'm stingy with it.

Shannon: Um, okay. What.

Lisa: Ooh. This is no ordinary, ordinary love. All she, ordinary love. She gotta be like 53.

Mm. You cold go up. She older than that. Mm-hmm.

I can't you 60. Getting warmer. Keep going. She older than that? Mm-hmm. ain't nowhere in the world. Yes ma'am. At this point I'm, nah, I'm calling Shenanigans Pharrell. Shada, we're gonna [00:29:00] put them in the same category. They aliens for real though? They phar real. So what did I just say? She was 60, what you said

Shannon: 62

Lisa: 67.

Hell no. That you passed that 65, 66. 64. 64. Okay. All right. I was gonna say she couldn't be that much older, but, okay. 64.

Shannon: I don't see that. No, I don't either. All right. What about um, Morgan

Lisa: Freeman? That's not fair because this nigga looked like he was 90 when he was like, . When you seen that picture. Him when he was little.

Hey, Hey. That picture he was little. He looked like he was, he knocking the hell outta 40 when he was like 10 years old. That's not fair. I'm calling, I'm I'm gonna pass on this one cause that's not fair. If you guys started old

Shannon: in the

Lisa: business, I would pass no guesses. [00:30:00] 80 up. Okay. 86 down. I don't just help me out with 80 85.

85, okay. Yeah. Is that ain't fair cuz that dude, no, I don't understand that one. You know how God throw us like a little, you know, like look a little sprinkle or something different.

I wanna know what he doing to, for his crack that look like that. He's black for crack. . Much love though. Shout out. Shot, shake Redemption.

Shannon: What about, um, Samuel L. Jackson? Does anybody else say Samuel Jackson? Samuel?

Lisa: We do from Chat. Chat town. You know you're from chat. Yeah, I know. Oh, SAMU. He don't claim him though, like Usher did.

Uh, let's go with the era. Let's say he like 70 Something. Like 70, yes. [00:31:00] 3 72. You

Shannon: are very warm.

Lisa: 74. 74. Wow. Okay, Sam. He look good. Lemme tell you something. You know when you got money, money. When your skin flawless like that, you don't see his skin on them. Capital One commercials.

Shannon: Hey, money is something that makes sure black don't crack.

All right. Our last one is Queen Latifa.

Lisa: Who you calling us? She gotta be like 50, 52. Ooh,

Shannon: you got it right on the

Lisa: head. Really? Yep. I was guessing. Yes. 50. Okay. Yep. That's my girl. That's another person that has very beautiful skin. Mm-hmm. very beautiful. All right. Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right, folks. Lisa's pieces.

All right, let's get it[00:32:00]

so, This poem was, uh, written by a poet by the name of Page, and it's called Rose Painted. Um, this poem was inspired by the movie, the Help, and the main idea of the poem is how people look at people's skin color and judge them all right. If I were a rose painted black, would you cast me aside like a black and burnt rice?

Would my color tarnish my sweet smell if I were a rose painted black? With the richness of my ebony petals make me unworthy of being called a rose. If I were a rose painted white, would my ivory petals be worth more than? Would my sweet smell [00:33:00] captivate a room Welcomingly. If I were just a rose, sweet smelling and vibrant, and your mind was blind, would my color matter?

I like that one. Yeah, that's nice. I like that one. Mm-hmm. . All right, so. I just wanna tell y'all, we gonna jump into the little final thoughts With all the disappointment, disadvantages, and deliberate missed deals, us as African Americans experience, we must capture and retain any greatness we come across.

Whether it's giving to us or us working our fingers to the bone. It's very important we take care of ourselves. Yes. Okay. Very, I. Um, not to make excuses, but yes, due to circum certain circumstances of us not having it like others, we have to set our minds that it's okay to want better. [00:34:00] It's okay to look better.

It's okay to have the best and most importantly, have the best mentality. And internally and physically, we take care of ourself As we work on this, let our black don't crack be our privilege, our own privilege. Ain't nothing like having. Our black confidence. Mm-hmm. . So next week will be discussing desegregation and was it a mistake for our community,

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Say, Hey, boom. All right. So thank you again for listening to. Then we gonna head on out. King and Queens, keep doing big thingss. Let go see ya.[00:36:00]