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Speaker BHello and welcome to Binge Watch, the podcast where we take a look at the hottest new TV and film releases on streaming television platforms.
Speaker BI'm Hannah Fernando, the group editor of Woman and Woman and Home magazine.
Speaker AAnd I'm Ian McEwan, writer on TV and Satellite Week.
Speaker AWhat's on TV, TV Times and what dot com.
Speaker AAnd today we're looking at the new releases that will be available on Friday 2nd May 2025, including the true crime drama Suspect, the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes on Disney and Netflix couples comedy the Four Seasons starring Tina Fey and Steve Carell.
Speaker BAnd we'll also be checking out Katie Piper's new US prison documentary series on you and and dangling off a skyscraper in Die Hard style thriller Cleaner on Sky Cinema.
Speaker BAnd now.
Speaker BBut first, Ian, tell me what is in the news, please.
Speaker AThe Bob Dylan biopic Complete Unknown arrives on Disney plus this week.
Speaker AI saw it in the cinema and it's very, very good.
Speaker AIt stars Timothee Chalamet.
Speaker AAnd Netflix is going to air a rockumentary about one of my favorite musicians, PJ Harvey.
Speaker AWhat else is in the news, Hannah?
Speaker BWell, on another musical note, in Little Alex Horns comedy, the horn section is coming back for a second series on Channel 4 and that'll be streaming later this month.
Speaker AWell, let's get straight into it with some high stakes action in a new film which arrives on Sky Cinema on Friday 2nd May and will be available on now.
Speaker AIt's called Cleaner and here's a clip.
Speaker AGreedy, needy, cocky.
Speaker AWe're gonna shine a light on your crimes.
Speaker ACheers.
Speaker AGreat to have you on board.
Speaker AAny attempt to gain access, the whole building explodes.
Speaker ASomeone got inside one of the cleaners.
Speaker AFind them.
Speaker APut it down.
Speaker AThis has been compared to Die Hard and you can see exactly why.
Speaker ASo it stars Daisy Ridley as Joey, who is a former soldier working as a job.
Speaker AI don't think I'd fancy a window cleaner on a high rise building.
Speaker AOkay, so if you suffer from vertigo, this might not be one for you.
Speaker AAnd essentially eco terrorists occupy the building because there's a big meeting of all the shareholders of this energy company that's been polluting and doing various other things.
Speaker AThey're led by Clive Owen and one of the chief executives of the company is played by my former upstairs neighbour, Rufus Jones.
Speaker ABut spoiler alert, neither of them sticks around very long.
Speaker ASo you have to have a good villain.
Speaker AAnd there is one in this.
Speaker AHe's called Noah, played by Taz Skylar, and he kind of hijacks the eco terrorist operation and he has his own very radical agenda.
Speaker AMeanwhile, because Joey was dangling on a cradle outside the building when this, this attack took place, she's the only one who can save the day.
Speaker AIt's directed by Martin Campbell, who directed Golden Eye, the Bond film.
Speaker AAnd yeah, if you want a sort of high stakes action film, I think it's really good and it's got a little bit of human drama in it as well because Joey has this autistic brother.
Speaker ASo you see a little bit of their relationship.
Speaker ASo yeah, I think it's well put together.
Speaker AGood baddies, a great action hero in Daisy's Ridley.
Speaker AWhat did you think, Hannah?
Speaker BYeah, I thought it was a bit weird.
Speaker BI mean, for me I just kind of.
Speaker BI sort of understood it but didn't really have any real depth to it.
Speaker BI mean, like you say, it's got the baddies and the kind of, you know, the action packed sort of element to it, but I don't know, I.
Speaker BThe premise of it is really quite basic, as you say, isn't it?
Speaker BYou know, window cleaner, I don't suppose the kind of the.
Speaker BHer challenging day and the fact that she's kind of looking after her autistic brother and what comes with that and difficult.
Speaker BBut I don't know, I just, I kept feeling like there was a bit like a joke, there's a punchline coming here and there's a bit more to this and I didn't really get that.
Speaker BThat sent that sense of it.
Speaker BIt's not something that I think, you know what, I'm going to always remember that.
Speaker BI mean, I have got a memory like a fish.
Speaker BAnyway, so it'll be gone tomorrow.
Speaker BBut actually with this.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI didn't think there was much to write home about, I'm afraid.
Speaker AFair enough.
Speaker AOver on Netflix, it arrived on Thursday the 1st of May.
Speaker AWe have a new comedy series called the Four Seasons.
Speaker AAnd here's a clip.
Speaker AWe've been friends for 30 years.
Speaker AI love all of you.
Speaker AAll of you.
Speaker APlus please do not talk about your other hotter friend group.
Speaker AIt hurts my feelings.
Speaker AI know, but that's so hot.
Speaker AAre you guys happy of questioning that?
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker AWe sit in the same room monitoring different screens.
Speaker AWe're like co workers at a nuclear facility.
Speaker BNow this is much more up my streets.
Speaker BThis is really quite funny, but also it hasn't under.
Speaker BIt's kind of.
Speaker BThere's sadness in it as well.
Speaker BSo this follows three couples who have been friends for absolutely years and some of us will kind of relate to this.
Speaker BThere are that Group of friends who then you meet your, you long term partner and you still all get on and you all still go away together and you know, it might be once a year or you know, a long weekend or whatever and this is them and they share these regular holidays.
Speaker BBut as time goes on, and this reminds me of something that happened earlier in the week in my own life with someone else that started to question their marriages and their friendships and their relationships and because one of them, one of the couples decides to divorce.
Speaker BAnd of course once that happens, the whole dynamic of that group completely, completely changes.
Speaker BAnd this is an eight part series.
Speaker BSo I mean, it's quite bingeable actually once you start watching it, I think you'll want to keep watching it because you want to see what actually ends up happening because every part of you wants this couple that's divorcing.
Speaker BWell, I did anyway to get back together for the kind of equilibrium to be resumed and restored.
Speaker BAnd it takes it, it takes a while because clearly ups, ups and downs.
Speaker BWhat, what isn't helped is of course that there is another extra person involved in this and, and that makes it all the harder.
Speaker BAnd I just think you, I don't, it makes, makes you question absolutely everything.
Speaker BAnd I think certainly when there's been all that years, all that, all those, all those years, all that history between friends, it suddenly starts to make you question.
Speaker BAnd also because this particular guy has gone and met someone and is living his best life.
Speaker BYou know, you hear of midlife crises, don't you, and people going off with younger people and what have you.
Speaker BAnd it all feels a bit, oh God, yeah, here we go again.
Speaker BBut it sort of played out really quite well with real comedic value.
Speaker BBut also as I say, you come away thinking, God, I.
Speaker BYou can imagine it happening within a group of friends and why wouldn't it?
Speaker BProbably, you know, statistically out of three or four couples, one of them is, will probably, will probably end up in divorce, sadly.
Speaker BSo I think it's quite relatable in many ways.
Speaker BBut that sort of funny narrative that underpins the whole thing works really well.
Speaker BBut I do like it when there's that, that very funny laugh out loud stuff, but also the depth of feeling quite sad.
Speaker BAnd as I say, I do think it's relatable.
Speaker BThoroughly enjoyed what I've seen.
Speaker BIan, how about you?
Speaker AYeah, I enjoyed it.
Speaker AAnd it's based on a 1981 film from Alan Alder, the star of MASH.
Speaker AOf course, I'm sure I've seen that, but I don't particularly remember thinking it was superb or a classic.
Speaker ABut this is from the team behind the brilliant sitcom 30 Rock, which starred Tina Fey, who is in this.
Speaker AAnd you've also got Steve Carell.
Speaker ASo you've got absolute comedy royalty from America headlining in this and it's very believable.
Speaker ASo Steve Carell's character Nick, while they're all on holiday together, he, he has a chat with his male friends and explains, you know, I'm unhappy.
Speaker AI've been unhappy for ages.
Speaker AI've got nothing in common with my wife, she's not interested in doing anything.
Speaker AAnd I want to, I want to make the most of, you know, what time I have left.
Speaker AAnd that's kind of understandable.
Speaker AAnd then at the end of episode one, there's just a heartbreaking moment which I will not reveal.
Speaker ASo the script is, is good.
Speaker AThe performances are really believable.
Speaker AThey're great characters.
Speaker AI actually think.
Speaker AI mean, I think it's.
Speaker AFrom what I can remember, which isn't much.
Speaker AI think it's a huge improvement on the 1981 film.
Speaker AAnd yeah, I really enjoyed episode one.
Speaker AIt's like a proper, proper grown up comedy drama about just everyday life, not rather than, you know, dangling off a building fighting eco terrorists.
Speaker ASo, yeah, I really liked it.
Speaker AOver on Disney plus, arriving on Wednesday 30 April, this has had a lot of press.
Speaker AUnsurprisingly, its new true crime series suspect the shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes.
Speaker AAnd here's a clip.
Speaker AThere's now no doubt the man shot yesterday has no connections to terrorism.
Speaker AWe can't let this define us.
Speaker AI can't stop thinking that all of the stuff they sent about John Charles isn't true.
Speaker ASo it's nearly 20 years since John Charles de Menes, who was a Brazilian electrician, was shot dead by police at Stockwell Underground station in London when he was mistakenly thought to be a terrorist.
Speaker AAnd this is his story.
Speaker AAnd you've got Conleth Hill playing Sir Ian Blair, who was the Met Commissioner.
Speaker AYou've got Edison Alcaide playing Jean Charles.
Speaker AYou've also got Russell Tovey as Brian Paddock, the Deputy Assistant Commissioner, and Emily Mortimer as Cressida Dick.
Speaker AYou've also got Danny Mays.
Speaker ASo it's a strong cast and it's a hell of a story.
Speaker AAnd it starts off with the backdrop.
Speaker ASo it was the.the7.7 bombings in London and there was a really good documentary series about that on BBC iPlayer, which is, which is harrowing but well worth checking.
Speaker AOut.
Speaker AAnd it's all about, you know, eyewitness accounts from people who, you know, know, had to go back to the scene of those tube and bus bombings.
Speaker ASo we start there and it's sort of setting the environment that.
Speaker AThat allowed this terrible tragedy to unfold.
Speaker ASo there initially, there are the bombings and then.
Speaker AWhich is probably not as well remembered, there was a second series of attempted bombings which.
Speaker AWhich didn't come off because the.
Speaker AThe bombs failed.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo that's the background is, you know, London is.
Speaker AIs absolutely gripped by terror.
Speaker AThere could be attacks at any time.
Speaker AAnd this is the basis that police are working on.
Speaker AAnd you don't get to the incident involving John Charles and the police.
Speaker AI think it's sort of at the end of the second episode.
Speaker ABut when it arrives, it is absolutely shocking.
Speaker AThe circumstances of his death are horrific.
Speaker AAnd we were told this story, we were given this narrative, oh, you know, he jumped over the barriers and ran away from police and then he confronted them on the train.
Speaker ANone of that happened.
Speaker AHe just entered the tube station, sat down on a train, and then you'll see what happens.
Speaker AAnd it is.
Speaker AIt is utterly appalling.
Speaker AAnd, yes, we see, yeah, various members of the Met and how they deal with the sort of the police response and the public response to the tragedy.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AYeah, and a lot of lies were told.
Speaker AYou've also got Max Beasley in this, so people might think they know this story, but.
Speaker AAnd it's written by Jeff Pope, who works on Philomena, and Stan and Oli, which my upstairs neighbour was also in.
Speaker AIt's really well put together.
Speaker AAnd, yeah, just the shocking truth that was covered up about the needless killing of this young man.
Speaker ASo, yeah, it's gripping stuff.
Speaker AIt's another.
Speaker AIt's another great drama telling the truth about a real life story.
Speaker AAnd we've had a few of those recently.
Speaker AAnd, yeah, I was gripped by it.
Speaker AWhat did you think, Hannah?
Speaker BDo you know what?
Speaker BIt's things like this.
Speaker BI'm a bit of an ostrich and I'm burying my head in the sand and I try and almost delete things like this because it's just so awful, frankly.
Speaker BI mean, it's just so awful.
Speaker BAnd when you watch this, you will realize how much more awful it is than you originally thought it was.
Speaker BBecause, as you say, there was so much misinformation, so many untruths, and this innocent man lost his life with a catalogue of error.
Speaker BAnd so, you know, seeing that play out, and as you say, it's sort of A bit further on that it all kind of happens.
Speaker BSeeing the context of it all is incredibly, incredibly interesting.
Speaker BBut the bit that really hit home for me is the family of him who tried desperately to find out the truth.
Speaker BBecause I think when you need closure, you're in another country, it's very hard.
Speaker BYou might not speak the language, whatever those stumbling blocks are.
Speaker BThat information was very, very hard to get.
Speaker BAnd I think that that must be just truly appalling for anyone who's lost a brother, a son, you know, whoever, not to have that.
Speaker BAnd for me, that's what really, really massively hit home.
Speaker BAnd all I can hope with something like this is that accidents happen.
Speaker BWe know that this just seems a catalogue of error, but also it feels very much.
Speaker BWell, I hope that there's just been some serious learnings because no one should lose an innocent life.
Speaker BIt's as simple as that.
Speaker BAnd, yeah, it's.
Speaker BIt's incredibly moving, incredibly upsetting at times.
Speaker BAnd you learn so much.
Speaker BYou really do.
Speaker BI thought I.
Speaker BI'd read about it all at the time.
Speaker BAs you say, I'm.
Speaker BAs I say, I'm pretty good at deleting things from.
Speaker BFrom my mind that upset me, but this brought it all back.
Speaker BBut so much more, so much more that I.
Speaker BThat wasn't reported at the time.
Speaker BYeah, definitely worth a watch.
Speaker AWell, we're going to finish over on you where a new documentary series is available as a box set.
Speaker AIt's called Katie Piper Locked Up In Louisiana.
Speaker AAnd here's a clip.
Speaker AI'm Katie Piper and I'm spending a.
Speaker BMonth inside one of the most notorious jails in America.
Speaker BA little bit nervous because there's always, always that trepidation of how are they.
Speaker AGoing to receive me?
Speaker AFifteen years ago, a violent attack changed my life forever.
Speaker BThey probably don't think that I've had an insight to that life.
Speaker BI spent a lot of time thinking.
Speaker AI should have killed him.
Speaker AAnd since then I've been trying to.
Speaker BUnderstand why people commit violent acts.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDo you know what?
Speaker BKatie Piper is a real inspiration, isn't she?
Speaker BShe does a lot of work with woman and home and we're huge fans of hers, to be honest with you.
Speaker BShe was attacked, it was an acid attack 15 years ago.
Speaker BAnd she has campaigned tirelessly for women and she has.
Speaker BShe's become a household name and she's just so, in my opinion, completely genuine and just somebody who thoroughly deserves to do well in life.
Speaker BAnd this is a really interesting new, New walk for her, really new outing, because she is.
Speaker BShe goes to New Orleans Louisian, and she spends a month in a parish prison and it's, that's one of the most notorious jails in the U.S.
Speaker Bi, I find this kind of thing fascinating.
Speaker BAnyway, it doesn't matter who's there, I have to hasten to add, but Katie Piper, having been through what she's been through and having to see someone that did that to her sentenced and, and what that looks like, and being through, you know, an act of, of criminality, if you like, against her, it has more, I don't know, gravitas, like, for me anyway.
Speaker BAnd she spends time with women who are accused of awful, awful crimes.
Speaker BAnd as with all these things, once you start to hear these people talk, lots of questions start to come.
Speaker BAre, should they be there?
Speaker BWas there, there a reason they did it, you know, were they provoked, etc.
Speaker BEtc.
Speaker BAnd there's one particular, I think it's the first, the first episode and she, and she meets a woman who is accused of killing her husband.
Speaker BBut what we say on the surface, she's killed her husband, she should be inside.
Speaker BOf course she should.
Speaker BShe was charged with second degree murder and she, and that carries a mandatory life sentence there.
Speaker BBut once you start to listen to her story, she'd suffered a lifetime of abuse as a child.
Speaker BShe then suffered abuse at the hands of her husband.
Speaker BAnd during one of those incredibly violent attacks, she shot her husband in self defense.
Speaker BAnd that is why she is there.
Speaker BAnd this is what I enjoy about stuff like this, because you go out with this thought, well, you've killed someone, of course you should be inside.
Speaker BYou are, you are a threat to society.
Speaker BAnd then you hear the other side and you think, how many times is the law an ass?
Speaker BIsn't.
Speaker BIs that, that's the phrase, isn't it?
Speaker BHow many times is there more to this than actually meets the eye?
Speaker BShould she be in there?
Speaker BShould she not be in there?
Speaker BThat's the question, you know, should she really be that?
Speaker BIs she a danger?
Speaker BAnd that goes for so many different people.
Speaker BAnd that's what this opens up for me.
Speaker BThis opens up that conversation of how many people are banged up, rightfully, wrongfully, whatever, but their stories and giving them a mouthpiece to say them.
Speaker BI think it's incredibly moving.
Speaker BI cried quite a lot, particularly during that one.
Speaker BI don't know what you think, Ian, but I'm a huge fan of Katie Piper and I think this is great.
Speaker AYeah, I got so much admiration for her and as you say, because of her own shocking backstory, gives this real Authenticity.
Speaker ABecause, you know, you've got people like Piers Morgan visiting American prisons to interview serial killers.
Speaker ABut, you know, she has a genuine insight into the experiences of some of these women.
Speaker ASo most of them seem to be behind bars either because they've been in abusive relationships and they've fought back or because they've been addicted to drugs or a combination of the two.
Speaker AAnd I did actually cry watching it.
Speaker AWhat really struck me, apart from the individual stories, was the relationship, well, between the.
Speaker ABetween the inmates and also their relationship with one of the prison guards.
Speaker AIt's so touching.
Speaker ASo this prison guard brings in a sort of big Bluetooth speaker and they all learn to do a dance routine together with the prison officer.
Speaker AAnd it's just.
Speaker AAnd Katie joins in as well.
Speaker AAnd it's just so touching.
Speaker AYou cannot imagine anything like that happening in a male prison.
Speaker AYou really can't.
Speaker ASo, yeah, it's.
Speaker AThere have been a lot of documentaries with celebs, you know, going inside high security prisons.
Speaker AThis one is really good and stands out.
Speaker AAnd, you know, let's see Katie Piper.
Speaker ALet's see her doing more of this kind of stuff because she's very good at it.
Speaker AWell, we've got to that time, Hannah, where we find out what the hell you've been binge watching this week.
Speaker BWell, we had a bit of a Saturday night in as a family and we watched Mufasa, which is of we when we talked about this, but it's the, like the precursor to the Lion King.
Speaker BIt's really very sweet and really very good and certainly one for all the family and answers a lot of questions.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker AOh, does it.
Speaker AAnd where's that available, Hannah?
Speaker BWe watched that on Disney plus.
Speaker ASuper duper.
Speaker AWell, I also watched a movie.
Speaker AIt's the Buzz Lightyear movie, the Buzz Lightyear prequel to Toy Story, which I very much enjoyed.
Speaker AAnd because there's a new and final series of the serial killer you on Netflix, I was catching up on that because I'm a little bit behind.
Speaker AAnd of course, our own Charlotte Richie, who I interviewed yesterday for a new ITV thriller that's coming up.
Speaker AYes, she's in seasons four and five of that.
Speaker AAnd jolly good, she is too.
Speaker AAnd yes, of course EW is on Netflix, by the way.
Speaker AWell, we've just got time to look ahead to next week's offerings.
Speaker ASo what's on the agenda, Brenda?
Speaker BWell, Ewan McGregor and Charlie Borman take a long way home as their Motorbike travelogue returns on Apple tv.
Speaker AAnd we're in the court of King Louis XVI as French period drama Marie antoinette lands on BBC iPlayer.
Speaker ASo we look forward to those and much, much more.
Speaker ABut in the meantime, listener.