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Speaker AEric G. Welcome to the Round the House show, the next generation of home improvement.
Speaker AI'm Eric G. Thanks for joining today.
Speaker AThis is our midweek update.
Speaker AThis is the show that, well, covers the stuff that we didn't catch last weekend show and of course, the stuff that we didn't get for next weekend show as well.
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Speaker AI wanted to talk about some rumors that are going around of people that are saying we've got a housing crash coming and we gotta be careful.
Speaker AReally, guys, I don't think we have one coming.
Speaker AAnd here is why.
Speaker AHistorically, housing crashes happen when multiple things pile up and trigger a sharp drop in home values.
Speaker AAnd historically these things have been different combinations.
Speaker ABut really, here's the issues.
Speaker AEasy credit and of course, loose lending standards where you give everybody a loan for a house and people can't make their payments.
Speaker AOverbuilding and oversupply.
Speaker AThen you've got that bubble where big people are out there buying houses and they're reselling them.
Speaker AThere have been other countries that have had big ones, like Japan had one in 1980s, their late 80s that was huge.
Speaker APrices soared and that absolutely crashed.
Speaker AInterest rate spikes and economic shocks and job losses.
Speaker AIt takes the oil bust in the mid-80s in Texas or things like that for it to really happen.
Speaker ASo let's go down the list here real quick and maybe you can understand this a little bit better.
Speaker AWe don't have any Issues really with easy credit and loose lending standards don't have an issue there.
Speaker AThey've got that dialed in.
Speaker AWe have a shortage, not an overbuilding and oversupply.
Speaker ANow, maybe in your area, in a local area, you could have overbuilding and oversupply.
Speaker ABut I tell you what, that is not the case if you jump on the MLS in many markets across the country.
Speaker ASo our housing starts are lower than what you'd expect them to be because our interest rates right now are higher than they've been.
Speaker ASo that's a big one.
Speaker AWe don't have to worry about overbuilding and oversupply across the country.
Speaker ATom, interest rate spikes?
Speaker ANope.
Speaker AThey're talking about maybe dropping that a point here in a number of weeks here in September, in about a month.
Speaker AIf we lose a point there, it's going to go the opposite way.
Speaker AWe're going to see all of a sudden the market open up where you'll see actually how housing shortage, because you're going to see people out there putting their homes on the market and of course trying to buy them and people that have been saving trying to wait for that interest rates to drop down.
Speaker ATom, you're going to see that happen as well.
Speaker ASo you're going to see something change here probably in the next 30 to 60 days.
Speaker AAnd of course, economic shocks and job losses, I'm not seeing that either.
Speaker AYes, we're seeing some economic shop shocks and job losses, but we're also seeing, with the tariff situation out there, companies starting to bring stuff back on shore.
Speaker ASo I think we're not.
Speaker AWe're going to see job losses because everything is tight out there right now.
Speaker AYou're seeing health care with some big losses.
Speaker AYou're seeing lots of larger companies slimming down, but I don't see that happening in policy.
Speaker AAnd tax changes, I don't see any incentives or anything else like that.
Speaker ATax breaks going around.
Speaker AI don't think we're going to see anything there.
Speaker AAnd of course, all it would take would be some external shocks like a terrorist attack or something like that.
Speaker ABut that's not going to affect things that drastically.
Speaker ASo my bet right now is we're not anywhere near any kind of a housing crash.
Speaker AIf anything, we are in that crash now where we had high interest rates, we had builders not building, material costs were high.
Speaker ANow I think we are getting ready to spool up for another housing boom.
Speaker AWhich means if you're thinking about buying a house, now is the time to go through and really get ready for that.
Speaker AWhat would you do for that go talk to a potential lender and see what you could do.
Speaker ARight now, of course interest rates, you don't need to lock anything in, it's going to get better.
Speaker ABut what I would do right now, if you're thinking about buying here in the next year, go get pre approved, take a look, see what you can afford so you can be ready.
Speaker AIf we see a big interest rate drop and people go, wow, I'm putting my house on the market now you can go out and look and you might be able to find something because people are going to try selling.
Speaker ATom, we're seeing interestingly here in my area and let me know what's happening in yours because there's a lot going on out there.
Speaker ABut in my area the more expensive homes in the higher tax areas are going away, those are dropping down, those values are dropping.
Speaker AAnd what I'm seeing is it's a great example in my area and it might be your area as well, but we have a county here, Multnomah county, which is way higher in taxes than the county next door in Portland.
Speaker ASo you're seeing those million dollar house prices, which isn't a lot of house in Multnomah county where those property taxes are almost double with all the different taxes they have with arts taxes and all this other crazy stuff that people that are going to buy a million dollar house and up, that's where you start to get interesting because those are not selling as well in the areas that have the lower tax rates.
Speaker AThose are selling a lot better.
Speaker ASo it's interesting to see how governmental politics on a local level really affects the housing market there.
Speaker ASo you're seeing many people bailing out of there and I think that's going to be interesting to see what happens in especially in our west coast cities here where I think you're going to see more condo development, you're going to see a lot more stuff like that because what you're going to see is all these empty buildings and yeah, we have 33% commercial vacancy rate in downtown Portland and you're seeing that in many west coast cities.
Speaker ASan Francisco, Louisiana, all these places, people are bailing out of there with their companies to go to lower tax rate areas or they've just had a reduction of force and they're winding that down so they're not using that office space.
Speaker ASo are we going to see those office buildings and towers put into condos?
Speaker AMaybe it's very expensive, there's zoning issues and things like that.
Speaker ABut it's going to be Interesting to see what happens across the board out there with housing when it comes to condos.
Speaker ABut here's the thing.
Speaker AMany families don't want to live in a downtown condo when they can live out in suburbia for the same price and not have to worry about taking two kids on a bus or a train to go to the grocery store.
Speaker AThey want to jump in their car, go down the road, come in and have an easy in and out, let alone not have the crime problems that we have in our major cities like that across the country.
Speaker ASo I think that's going to be an interesting one.
Speaker AAnd I don't think unless they come up with really affordable housing, which isn't gonna happen.
Speaker ACause it's expensive to work in a downtown core.
Speaker AI don't see that happening for these things.
Speaker ASo I think it's gonna be a bigger issue.
Speaker ACities that get their crime dialed in will have a better chance of getting their inner core built back up.
Speaker AWe'll see what happens in cities when they start to figure this out.
Speaker ABut I think that's one of the biggest things where crime, drug use, mental health care is rampant in these cities.
Speaker AI don't think you're going to see people wanting to move down there.
Speaker AConsidering now the restaurants, the businesses, the stores, the retail places are closing up shop left and right and it's leaving a city core that is empty.
Speaker AAnd as far as building materials out there, we're still seeing some pretty crazy prices out there.
Speaker AAlmost $19 a sheet for half inch drywall.
Speaker AFour by eight.
Speaker AYou're looking at 375 or so for.
Speaker AOr 365.
Speaker A375 for a two by four.
Speaker AYou're starting to see where these prices are still staying high up there.
Speaker AAnd that's gonna also affect things because I tell you what, I was just out buying some trim because I'm working on my house right now.
Speaker AAnd I've been saving some money buying materials from some of the discount lumber yards in my area.
Speaker AFor instance, I use a place called Building Materials Outlet where I get a lot of finished materials that I can get that are they buy the extras from the mill, that kind of stuff.
Speaker ASo I bought some rustic hemlock that's really cool that I used in a 1x6 shiplap.
Speaker AI just naturally stained it, put a natural Olympic sealer on it just to give it a matte finish so it would be sealed up.
Speaker ABut I wanted that natural look.
Speaker ASo I put that up.
Speaker AI got it for 41 cents a linear foot.
Speaker ABut if I Went in and tried to buy the.
Speaker AThis was hemlock.
Speaker ASo I bought.
Speaker ATried to buy hemlock boards basically from Home Depot when I went in there.
Speaker AHoly smokes.
Speaker AJust to trim out two windows.
Speaker AI was going to have $200 in the trim to do that.
Speaker AAnd that was almost as much as the 900 lineal feet of material that I got, you know, for the wall systems in there to cover that up to make it look nice.
Speaker ASo it's really crazy how expensive this stuff gets out there, Tom.
Speaker AAnd the building materials are just still not especially when it comes to lumber, windows, everything else.
Speaker AYeah, it's expensive, but the lumber is still way high priced even though the lumber futures are down.
Speaker AWe'll see what happens out there.
Speaker AA 2 by 4 by 8 walnut finished piece is $174 at Home Depot.
Speaker AGive me a break.
Speaker AThat's insanely expensive.
Speaker AAnd I don't think it's going to come down anytime soon.
Speaker AWe're going to have to see lumber producers out there really get after it.
Speaker AAnd we'll have to see what the lumber futures prices go in the future to see what we have going on there because prices are still way out of line for what we should be paying for building materials.
Speaker ANow.
Speaker AOne of my favorite places to go to find a good deal is of course, my local places that have donations.
Speaker AI have my Habitat for Humanity stores here if I'm looking for something specific or I've got some other places here that are private places but that are really great.
Speaker AYou can search around and find all these places.
Speaker AAnd I love the kind of places where you donate materials.
Speaker AAnd guys, make sure at this time right now that you are donating those materials.
Speaker ABecause I tell you what, the thing that we see, and we talked about it in a previous episode, is we're seeing people not donating materials because they're hard on money and they want to get as much money back so they can continue the project here in Portland.
Speaker AMy favorite place to go where I live is the Rebuilding Center.
Speaker AThey really help their.
Speaker ATheir nonprofit, they help their community, they help people of low income and try to get people to stay in their house as long as possible.
Speaker ASo they have a really good program, including classes so you can learn.
Speaker AIt's just a really great setup.
Speaker ASo make sure and donate those extra materials to these guys because they're really hurting on donations out there.
Speaker AAnd don't just give them trash.
Speaker AI'm going to be taking a trailer load down to them when I get done with my house here and donate stuff.
Speaker ASo they've got a lot of materials to work with because some of this stuff, it's just doesn't pay to store it and I'll just have to get it the next time if I even need it.
Speaker ASometimes getting rid of it is the best way to save money.
Speaker ANow the next thing here is I another one of my favorite places and this is a website that crawls Home Depot and Lowe's looking for closeouts and it's called Home Depot dot deal.
Speaker AAnd then you can search the Lowe's deals and the Home Depot deals by state and by your local stores and you can go through and find so many crazy deals out there.
Speaker AAnd so all you do is go to that and then pick your state.
Speaker AAnd as you pick your state, you can distill down basically to whatever store you're looking for.
Speaker ALike Lowe's.
Speaker ARight now in my area, they've got a ton of stuff out there for tile and lighting on closeouts.
Speaker ARight now if I go over to the Home Depot side in my area and this is the time of year you start seeing the resets for fall for winter.
Speaker ABut really when you start looking at materials like that, they've got a lot of ryobi stuff, some DeWalt stuff, lots of Milwaukee stuff that they're closing out, bringing in new products.
Speaker ASo a lot of this stuff is 50, 60, 70% off.
Speaker AAnd so you can jump on there and see where it's at and run down to the store quickly or sometimes even buy it online and they can grab it for you and you can have it where you can do curbside pickup.
Speaker ASo all of these things can be great for you in saving money on projects because that's what it's all about these days.
Speaker AIt's hard to spend money on these things.
Speaker AIt gets expensive and I know the pain you're going through because I'm doing it myself on my own projects.
Speaker AAll right everybody, I gotta get back to my house.
Speaker AI am on a two week push right now to get this house done and on the market because I'll be selling my place in Portland with some nice, nice new exciting stuff coming up once I get this place sold.
Speaker ATime to get back into house finish mode.
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