DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast.
I'm DJ Sir Daniel.
Jay Ray: And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government
as Johnny Ray Cornegay the third.
What's happening, folks?
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DJ Sir Daniel: of Queue Points.
We are the, the podcast dropping the needle on black music history and,
um, JRay, so I was on, as I always do, I'm going through my social media feed
The Jennifer Hudson show posted their latest pre show celebrity tunnel clip.
If you're all familiar with the pre show tunnel clip is when whoever
the celebrity guest is they come walking down the the hallway and
the the the the the the showrunners and the the uh the What are they
Jay Ray: I guess the production team.
Yeah.
DJ Sir Daniel: is they they make up a song and they clap the person down the hall
while they do a little jig down the hall.
It's really cute.
It's a signature.
It's a signature social media post for the Jennifer Hudson show and
it goes over really well with with.
everybody.
So, um, needless to say, I was super surprised when I saw today's feature
was none other than Get It Sexy.
Get It Sexy.
Sexyy Red was coming down the hallway.
And in true Sexyy Red fashion, she was being Sexyy Red.
She had on what I, Derek, she had on what I like to refer to as daytime lingerie.
Right,
Jay Ray: But outside the house, like not in the bedroom, right?
DJ Sir Daniel: She was, she was wearing her best daytime lingerie look, coming
down, and of course, you know, in Sexyy Red fashion, she bent it over and, you
know, kind of cracked it a little bit.
And they had to put a heart over it.
So they censored it.
So that means know that it's a bit much for the Jennifer Hudson audience.
Jay Ray: Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel: yeah, so I was just like, when I saw that, I was like,
um, this is where we doing now?
This is where we at?
Okay, so I'm, the question I have for y'all that are already in
the chat and that are tuning in, because we have a, it's part of the
larger topic that we have tonight.
But, Jay Ray, is there anything, do we need to start shaming?
People just a little bit or is there anything wrong with a little bit
of shame these it's a little bit
Jay Ray: don't, I don't.
Yes.
So it's just a general yes.
I don't think it is.
We need to shame people because I don't think I'm gonna speak
for I, I Johnny or Jay Ray.
Hey, don't have the ability to just like shame somebody.
Like, I don't feel like that's my place.
I don't feel like that's you ain't my child.
You ain't nobody that I can like,
DJ Sir Daniel: you ain't mama.
You ain't none of my
Jay Ray: ain't none of my, you know what I'm saying?
However, I Jay Ray do have some shame about myself and I'd be like, I am not
going to go on national television in the middle of the day and do this kind
of foolishness going down the thing.
Now, this is not a respectability politics thing.
Y'all.
I, sir, Daniel, you know me, I am so liberal, baby.
You like it.
I love it.
It is fine,
DJ Sir Daniel: we're not policing black women's
Jay Ray: policing, black women, body, Sexyy Red could do
whatever she wants with her body.
However, and there's a time and place for stuff and, and on national TV
going down the, the, the Jennifer Hudson soul train line, where do you
got to put a heart over the thing?
DJ Sir Daniel: over the booty here
Jay Ray: seems like, it just seems like it's a bit much.
And I think Kyriakos and Mark.
Are kind of echoing the thing that I think I think I get why she's a thing.
So Kyriakos, I do get why she's a thing.
I just don't think it's for me.
It's definitely not for me, but honestly, I don't think it's I don't
think it should be for a lot of people.
There's she should come with.
She should literally walk around with a parental advisory
label, like over her body.
DJ Sir Daniel: her body.
Shout out to Shannon Perez.
Darby is in the, is in the
Jay Ray: up,
DJ Sir Daniel: chat.
And it's so funny that she's in the chat because her, along with her show
partner, we had a discussion, Tashmika, we had a discussion about this, something
similar to this earlier last year, as a matter of fact, and it is coming
around again, where it's almost like.
Okay, I get it.
I see where the ladies are going.
Um, I don't want to make this about hammering that, hammering down the women
that are in the game that are doing their thing because yes, we know they've
been carrying the, um, we know that
Jay Ray: hop on their back.
DJ Sir Daniel: on their backs.
They've been selling out shows.
all of that good stuff.
I think we, Jay Ray and I just recall a time, as a matter of fact, 27
years ago in the month of February, 27 years ago, Vibe magazine, um,
February's issue was a double cover
Jay Ray: Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel: and then it's this double cover featured the top hip
hop artists, both male and female.
And this was such an iconic cover because this cover featured, uh, Kim, Lil Kim,
Missy Elliot, Foxy Brown, Lauren Hill.
They had their own cover cause they, they separated it by, um, men and women.
And it was such a dope idea.
Um, you know, of course we had the brat in the mix.
You had Trina on the come up.
You have Rod Diggle on the come up, a mill, all of these different
flavors of women in hip hop.
And they were all coexisting, J.
Ray.
Now, look at Kim.
Jay Ray: Look,
DJ Sir Daniel: Kim is in full That ain't daytime
Jay Ray: that's not daytime lingerie
DJ Sir Daniel: that's nighttime, you know, hardcore La Bella
Mafia lingerie right there.
That's Kim doing what Kim does and having a great time doing it.
And we respect her for it.
Jay Ray: Yes,
DJ Sir Daniel: But there was a time where, but Kim, Fox
Jay Ray: look at like look at Lauren look at Missy look at Kim look at foxy like
DJ Sir Daniel: it all, it coexisted together.
They, everybody had their own flavor and was still selling records,
winning, winning multiple Grammys, um, and all kinds of awards.
But now it's just like, uh, what are we doing guys?
What are, what are we doing here?
How did we get here?
Jay Ray: How did we get how you got to sing the song?
DJ Sir Daniel: did we, okay.
Before we get, before we get kicked off of IG and
Jay Ray: Because you know, Deborah Cox will come on and be like how they said
how they sounded so good singing my song.
Right?
Um, so.
What I absolutely love about this moment is it's such a
variety of like styles, right?
You know what I'm saying?
Even when we look at the men.
So you have LL, who by this point is a legitimate veteran, like
LL is 13 years into his career.
As part of this cover, right?
So you got an LL, you have Busta Rhymes, you have Method Man, and
you have Master P, who's fairly new on the national stage at this time.
He had been around for a while, but nationally new.
But let's go back to these women, to that point of like, there was a moment
in time When Missy, Kim, Lauren, and Foxy could not only be on magazine
covers together, they were all selling platinum albums at the exact same time
and were able to do these different flavors of what hip hop was right now.
Everything is so one note, at least from a commercial.
We're talking from a commercial standpoint because we can already hear y'all
like there's a whole lot of rappers.
There are a whole lot of women who are out here killing the game.
But commercially we get one type of thing that is currently happening.
DJ Sir Daniel: And so here's the thing.
I, you know, I'm rubbing my crystal ball and I'm making a prediction here.
I'm having a vision like Raven.
That's so Raven.
Like, I'm starting to feel like there's going to be a bust.
Jay Ray: There has to
DJ Sir Daniel: like how the economy is about to bust and they're
warning that the, the housing, all that stuff is about to bust.
There's a B, there's about to be a, a bust in what people are going to.
continue supporting, especially when it comes to female rap, because like
we said earlier, female rap is pretty much carrying the game on, carrying
the game on their back right now.
But I predicted that there's going to be a bust that people aren't going to be.
As likely to support or things aren't going to get be on the level as they
were and I could be wrong here This is just me, but I'm starting to see
well Maybe there might be people are getting desperate desperate
times call for desperate measures.
You even got the one young lady What was her
Jay Ray: Who?
DJ Sir Daniel: She's, now she's in a commercial featuring, uh, covering
Kaya's My Neck, My Back, but it's for a, a Dove soap commercial.
You know, the young lady that don't like children on a plane with her,
that was going, was going head up with T. I. 's grandchildren,
Jay Ray: What's her name?
Chica?
DJ Sir Daniel: That's it.
The one that wanted to fight, um, T.
I. 's grandchildren.
Right.
So now she's doing commercials.
Singing a variation of My Neck, My Back, because it's hard out
here, it's hard out here for her, like someone that presents like
Jay Ray: Mm hmm.
DJ Sir Daniel: and raps like her is not going to be climbing on the charts.
Jay Ray: Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel: So she's gotta, so even in her own small way, she's kind of
acquiescing to what the, um, the, the, the marketplace is calling for in her own way.
But now it's just getting I don't know I think it's kind of getting out of hand
and there might just be a Blowback and there might just be it's not just gonna
be the men that aren't selling right?
They're gonna be declining sales in this whole rap game Completely
Jay Ray: So, um, I want to shout out Kipper, who is also in the
chat, who said, as with music in general, it will hit the wall, right?
So it's what happens every time.
Um, what, what I am, what gives me hope, what gives me hope is that.
Listen, Rhapsody got her, her first Grammy this year, you know what I'm saying?
And that woman has been churning out high quality albums for almost a decade
at this point, if not a decade, right?
High quality material.
And it does give me some hope that.
You know, folks like her.
So it's not just her out there.
We have Tiara Wack and some of these other, you know, folks that
are out there, LaKaylee47, all of these folks out there who are really
making high quality hip hop, right?
On the women's side, of course, we know Kendrick literally just reset.
What men in hip hop are required to do, right?
I'm sure all of the dudes are sitting there like shaking in their boots about
DJ Sir Daniel: Now we gotta
Jay Ray: now.
I got a rap I got a like right.
DJ Sir Daniel: I Gotta be deep and stuff.
Oh, man.
Okay
Jay Ray: Oh Man right, but for the women I feel like that same sort of reset Is,
you know, on the way where it's just going to be required for them to like,
to like, you know, pick up the pen again.
Well, the fortunate thing about women is actually the women have
kind of been like, all of these women have been rapping, rapping.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.
True.
Jay Ray: just image wise has been a whole other thing, but they've
generally been like rapping, rapping.
I think from an image perspective, that's where the bust is going to come.
Seeing the variety.
And how women can be presented to us from a commercial standpoint.
DJ Sir Daniel: Right.
And you know, and speaking of the Grammys, we would be remiss
if we did not bring up Dolce,
Jay Ray: Love Dochi!
Yeah,
DJ Sir Daniel: like, really cleaned up at the Grammys on her
first go round and has really done something special with her career.
And she, you know, she told that line of You know, of being sexy,
you know, she was, she had a bikini bottom during her Grammy performance.
But she was up there rapping.
Jay Ray: She raps.
DJ Sir Daniel: she raps down, like, and she spits.
And so, is Dolce like the, the final frontier?
Is she the last hope?
It's like, but what if you, what if you can't, you can spit, God, God
forgive me for what I'm about to say.
What if you spit like Dolce, but you look like Dank?
Jay Ray: I think that's fine, though, right?
There's always, well, there's other problems with Dank, but the other Dank,
there's other problems with Dank, though.
So, the, okay.
This is actually a really interesting point, sir. Daniel, I think,
I think we are also at the point in commercial hip hop where
gimmicks are kind of like some people think they need a gimmick.
And I think folks look at size now as like a gimmick.
You know what I'm saying?
That they can play up.
So I feel like if somebody was spitting like Dolce, and looked like dank,
there's an opportunity for them.
There's a, there's a lane for them.
I think, you know, uh, uh, uh, who's our homegirl that, that we,
that, that was, uh, body positivity and she just lost a lot of weight.
Lizzo!
Child, that's a shame.
I couldn't remember that lady's name, honey.
It's been a while and she's been through a lot.
But I think Lizzo kind of opened.
up was possible.
However, I think here's what it is.
The gimmicks have to stop, right?
It's about letting the talent lead.
And I think if there's anything we can take from this moment,
taking from Dolce, right?
Letting your talent lead you, right?
This is no, like, no, this is what I do.
If you spit, you spit.
This is what I do.
No matter what you look like.
So I think there would be room, but it's just like, you
got to lean into what you do.
DJ Sir Daniel: For sure.
And shout out to, um, I believe it's Infinite64, uh, wants
to join in the conversation.
Please feel free to leave something in the chat.
Um, that's the quickest way to, to hop in and be heard on the show.
But I, you know, I think you're right, J. Rey.
I think we, it's where the gimmicks have to stop and the talent has to lead.
Um,
But here's the rub.
We have, everything now has become so media led where it's like we
don't care about the music anymore.
We care about your personal life.
We care about, you know, your baby father being on trial for shooting at someone.
We care about your other baby daddy following you around at the, um, during
the Superbowl because he's stalking you.
We care about
Jay Ray: This happened.
I didn't hear about this.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, that was an offset Cardi B thing.
Jay Ray: Jesus Christ, sir.
DJ Sir Daniel: but, um, yeah, so those are the things that we,
that people are showing up for.
People are showing up for the public meltdowns.
People are showing up for, you know, how much weight you lost.
People are showing up for whether or not, you know, your BBL is clockable or not.
That's the stuff that I think we, we play a role in it as well.
We play a huge role in it as consumers and No longer, they're
dictating to us what's hot.
We're no longer dictating what the culture should represent.
We're no longer dictating what's fly and what's hot.
It's being served to us.
It's being, actually, it's being pushed down our throats,
whether we know it or not.
Jay Ray: Sir, Daniel.
I, this leads me to also wonder.
How important do you think it's going to be important for us to
get back to like crews and groups?
I feel like so much of the creativity gets stifled because these
artists are in their own bubbles.
You know what I mean?
Like they don't have like a crew.
They don't have a crew that they're trying to compete against to rap against.
It's just them.
You know what I mean?
And the people who work with them, but a lot of times it's not just like other
emcees that you just kind of work with.
I feel like that creativity, that, that push, that drive to do something really
does sometimes happen in community.
And I'm wondering if we've gotten so far away from that.
DJ Sir Daniel: Mm.
Jay Ray: for a lot of reasons.
I think, you know, money wise, it's just easier to be a solo act
because you get to keep it all
DJ Sir Daniel: Oh, yeah.
Jay Ray: And, uh, uh, big corporations don't want to pay all them people.
You know what I'm saying?
They don't want to have to worry about the hassle of it all.
But I am wondering if that creativity means that we also need to be
spending more time together as people in rooms like doing stuff.
Mm hmm.
Mm
DJ Sir Daniel: It's quite possible.
It It's very possible.
I mean, you mentioned this in a prior episode about the same thing
about people being separated, about crews being separated and community
at the very beginning, at the very, um, at the very nexus of this art
form of hip hop was the thing people.
joining together in community centers, rec centers, um, battles, all of those
things, those things were happening.
But it's like, again, when the corporations came in, they split people
up because they realized that there is money to be made in separation.
There's money to be made through contention, battling, even though battling
was, battling has been around, but it was.
It was a friendly sport
Jay Ray: It's a sport!
Like Kendrick talked about.
He was like, I'm into it for the sport.
DJ Sir Daniel: for the sport of things.
So, and, and so, okay.
So this, this is a perfect place to segue into a break
Jay Ray: Mm hmm.
DJ Sir Daniel: come back because speaking of Kendrick, I think there's
a lot of people who don't understand.
what is, what was going on with the whole Kendrick Drake thing.
And so therefore they can't understand the halftime performance.
And so there's a lot of people speaking on things that they don't know about.
And that's grinding my
Jay Ray: That ain't their place.
DJ Sir Daniel: Right, that's grinding my gears at this point.
So we are going to wrap up this conversation about the ladies and
hopefully, you know, hopefully the ladies will continue to deliver quality and as
well as, um, variety in the nearby future.
But Jay Ray, when we come back.
We got a couple things to talk about.
We're going to talk about halftime performances.
It's the 37th anniversary of one of Spike Lee's most famous movies.
And um, we also gonna just touch on the ticket situation, you know,
giddy up for the Cowboy Carter show.
Anyway, this is Queue Points podcast.
I'm DJ Sir Daniel,
Jay Ray: I'm Jay Ray, y'all.
DJ Sir Daniel: and we are dropping the needle on black music history.
And we will continue to do so on the other side of this break.
So you don't go nowhere.
You stay right where you are.
We'll be right back after this.
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Jay Ray: Welcome back to Queue Points, the podcast dropping the
needle on black music history.
My name is Jay Ray and that is my brother, DJ Sir Daniel.
We're going to do some shout outs real quick, Sir Daniel.
So over on Tik Tok, shout out to my girl, Angie, my girl, Angie from
Detroit is tuning in over there.
DJ Sir Daniel: What up though?
Jay Ray: what up doe?
Adam actually is over there on from Detroit to talking about what up though.
So Detroit is on tick tock, checking us out.
You know what I mean?
So shout out to y'all and shout out to everyone who is joining us, um,
on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram.
We appreciate y'all so much.
Shout us out.
Let us know where you're tuning in from.
Sir, Dan, yo, we got a couple other topics
DJ Sir Daniel: we sure do.
It's so funny that Detroit is in the building cause they got
a whole doll battle going on in
Jay Ray: yes, it's I which I was just like what's happening
DJ Sir Daniel: we battling over dolls
Jay Ray: Right
DJ Sir Daniel: But please go ahead.
Jay Ray: So upcoming so in terms of this Sunday this past Sunday
DJ Sir Daniel: hmm.
Jay Ray: There was a concert that had a football game.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.
Jay Ray: There was a concert that had a football game.
Fortunately, Philadelphia Eagles won.
I live in Chester.
So shout out to the
Eagles.
DJ Sir Daniel: to the home team.
Jay Ray: Yeah, but within, you know, so that was one thing.
But the big thing was the record breaking.
Half time show, um, by one, um, Kendrick Lamar.
DJ Sir Daniel: That wasn't, that wasn't record breaking.
He wasn't more popular than Usher.
That wasn't, nah, nah, nah,
Jay Ray: According to the numbers, y'all, I, listen, I didn't make it up.
I, I've only looked at the reporting.
I don't know if all the reporting from reputable sources is wrong,
but apparently it was a record breaking half time display.
How, in addition, though, Sir Daniel,
It was culturally relevant.
That was the thing that I think for me was most important.
My fear was, so here's my fear going in.
I'm like, they done booked Kendrick Lamar for this halftime show.
And he gonna have to not do what needs to be done.
You know what I mean?
Because that is what They will require.
I was wrong.
So when the, when the, apparently when the, I guess it was the owner
or the head of the NFL was like, Kendrick could do whatever he wants.
They literally let that man kind of do whatever he wants.
I'm like, Oh, you, you really are doing this.
And thank you for putting black culture, black men together on that
field to speak to our experience.
So.
That's a thing that happened this week.
DJ Sir Daniel: It sure did.
Let's see.
Sunday was what?
Five?
No.
Let's math.
Sunday,
Jay Ray: Sunday was a four day.
Oh, yeah
about four days ago,
DJ Sir Daniel: Four days ago.
People are still talking about it, Jay Ray.
Jay Ray: That's when you know, you hit that's what you know
DJ Sir Daniel: They are still talking and people, not only are
they still talking about it, but some people are a little butt hurt
over the fact that it took place.
Their butt hurt, hurt over the fact that it was Kendrick.
First of all.
First of all, they're salty because of course he did perform they
not like us, which is con is a controversial song of the summer.
They are.
You know, they're salty just because, oh, they're salty because, what did
the young lady say from England?
When I, when I watch The Hat Times, I do not want to think.
I want to be entertained.
Jay Ray: That's
DJ Sir Daniel: want, I don't want to think.
I want to, and you know what?
Jay Ray: for you
DJ Sir Daniel: Good for you, but you're going to get,
you're going to get knowledge.
You're going to get
Jay Ray: You're going to get this word, you're going to get better
knowledge, you're getting with the people you need to get with.
DJ Sir Daniel: And unfortunately, sis, that's what's going to happen.
Um, that's what happened with the Kendrick Lamar show.
Um, I think that, and I really, this will be the only time you hear us talk about
it, cause we're not going to go on for.
Weeks talking about this thing
Jay Ray: But you can invite us on to your, to other platforms.
If you want us to come on at Wax Poetic about, there's so much we
could talk about, invite us on.
We won't do that over here, but we'll come over to your, your platform.
So if you want to have Queue Points come over, let us know.
DJ Sir Daniel: That's fair I'm not but I'm not arguing about who's the
biggest star between Kendrick and Drake
Jay Ray: Oh, I'm not having that conversation.
DJ Sir Daniel: we that's dead I'll leave that to those other
podcasts and But what was I saying?
It's just The idea so yes, so the young lady was saying she doesn't want to think
we just want to you know Have a good show and then there's this argument about
Whether or not that was the worst, um, Super Bowl halftime performance ever.
And that's being said by people on the right wing.
Of course, you know, Fox and Friends, they're gonna say that because,
well, you know, um, there were a lot of, it was, it was culturally
aware, and they can't stand when we do things that are culturally aware.
And where we do things that are, well, you know, their favorite word woke,
they can't stand anything that's woke.
And I had to, I had to sit back and think about, we see a cleansing already.
This administration is already doing a cleansing.
of anything cultural or anything that would cause you to think or
have any kind of critical thinking skills, another scary word.
There's a, they're being, they're being cleansed out.
You see the Kennedy Center is, um, purging.
People are leaving.
Issa Rae is leaving.
Um, somebody else, um, publicly said that
Jay Ray: Rhimes, step down.
DJ Sir Daniel: yes.
So, we're seeing things, we're seeing that people, there's
gonna be a, a a very Stark line.
This is not an this is not an invisible line.
This is not a scrimmage line See I gave y'all a football term.
This is not a scrimmage.
This is not imaginary a real line is being drawn Between people, between people that
want to exchange ideas and uphold history, teach history, exchange knowledge.
And then there's the other half that wants to just completely control narratives,
control information, and control thoughts.
And so I think what This performance did on a grander scheme is it exposed
and made that line very, very visible.
And it just is like a starting point of more foolishness to come with
the administration that we have in office now and just the world and just
the world in general, like they're thinkers and they're non thinkers.
Jay Ray: Listen, Toni Morrison, um, there's the great, uh, Toni
Morrison in 1975 did this talk at, I think, Portland State, I believe
is where that talk took place.
It gets sampled all the time.
People are always pulling from that, that conversation.
But one of the things she talked about was how when people When racism, when
people want to take control, they start erasing your culture, right?
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.
Jay Ray: Can't let you have it, because what, when you start being
able to think, when you start being able to see, it creates imagination,
DJ Sir Daniel: have pride.
Jay Ray: You have pride, and you suddenly, all of a sudden, you don't want to
do what they want you to do, right?
So, I think we're definitely at that point.
It is not surprising that what we're seeing happen, in particular with
the Kennedy Center, is happening.
Um, what I think we must do, and what Kendrick was, to your point, really
making sure that we know that we have to do, is we have to do this.
We gotta come here and do Queue Points every week.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.
Jay Ray: We have to.
This is our work.
We can't let this history go untold because it will be erased.
We are the people that hold the history.
If we don't talk about it, the people that hold the history will pass on and
it will be, where is it going to be?
DJ Sir Daniel: It's a battle between culture and corporation.
And it just so happens that I saw a clip today that spoke to this
conversation that we're having now and It comes from somebody
that I admired so much growing up.
And even though, you know, he's had a few hiccups in, in his career too.
And some things that we chose not to speak about or that are, have
not been spoken about, but KRS One.
Um, was on with, what's my
Jay Ray: Be real.
DJ Sir Daniel: Be Real from Cypress Hill and told me, gave an
anecdote of a, uh, something that happened that speaks volumes to
what we were talking about tonight.
And we just want to run this clip for you because I think it drives the point home.
Jay Ray: I agree.
So y'all, this point, this clip is long, but it's perfect.
And it's Chris.
So just check it out.
And we, you know what I mean?
And we gonna, uh, come back and talk about it.
Yeah.
DJ Sir Daniel: That, I, there's no way, no other, there was a better way that that
could have capsulized Everything that is going on today, whether it's Kendrick's
performance, whether it's the battle between him and Drake, whether it's, um,
whether or not we have black history or not, or can we, we can say it out loud,
there is a war on culture right now.
Corporations.
are making it known that they are here to take over everything,
but choices have to be made.
Choices have to be made, like intention, moving with intention
has to be done in order for people to, in order for culture to survive.
And that's the bottom line.
It's like.
We're going to see, we're going to see people, we're going to
see who's real and who's not.
We're going to see who's for the culture and who's not.
We're going to see people that will, you know, a term that's going to come back up
is what we used to say back in the day.
People are going, you're going to see who's a sellout and who's not.
It's going to be so apparent.
And the people that lead with money.
And seeing how much money they have or flashing money.
We can pretty much surmise that those are the ones that aren't
on the side of corporate and corporations and not the culture.
Jay Ray: Yeah.
And the thing about this is, in, in, in full transparency, and I'm sure Sir Daniel
will be cool with me just talking about this, like, internal to CuePoints, we've
been having this conversation, right?
Deciding where, where the line is, right?
And when we, we literally just like two weeks ago said, we can't do that.
It was, and that was what?
Like 5, 000?
5, 000. We need that 5, 000.
Let's be
very clear.
Should we monetize here?
We need this right.
To be able to keep doing what it is that we do.
This is not a cheap thing to do.
Right.
But it was like, and it was user day.
It was like, yeah, but we can't.
And you were like, you're right.
We can't.
We cannot, we gotta, we gotta make these choices.
Right.
And so it you're absolutely right, sir. Daniel, like it is going to become really,
really apparent and y'all big and small.
We have to decide who we are, like, who, what we, what we going
to do and what we not going to do.
And we going to stand on what we, we going to stand on who we are.
DJ Sir Daniel: So perfect place to bring this up and I hope we don't
get stung too, too bad by the beehive because the beehive is buzzing.
Um, is Are we seeing the Cowboy Carter concert series, the Chitlin Circuit tour
Jay Ray: Stop it!
DJ Sir Daniel: No, that's what it's called, the Chitlin
Jay Ray: Oh, is that what it's
called?
DJ Sir Daniel: hmm.
Which I adore.
I like the fact that it's called the Chitlin Circuit because it pays homage.
But people are complaining about the prices.
And, you know, again, this is a business.
Um.
There's a lot, and now we probably could have a whole discussion about this alone,
but it's, it falls in line with what we're talking about, is, we know people
are in the business to make money, but should Is it, is it, are these prices tone
deaf, you know, eggs or concert tickets,
Jay Ray: That's literally the choices we have to make nowadays.
DJ Sir Daniel: have to make
Jay Ray: choices we have to make.
DJ Sir Daniel: and not saying that, um, the artist is responsible
for making those ticket prices.
I don't, I don't know.
Uh, I'm, I'm very curious if anybody has any insight to how
ticket prices are calculated.
We would love to hear about it.
Jay Ray: It's, it's a combination.
DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, so it is
Jay Ray: it's, it's it's definitely a combination.
Because, it, it, it, it, it.
The, the, the, the team,
DJ Sir Daniel: Uh huh.
Jay Ray: if you are working at that level, there are people who work for
you who do all of that stuff, right?
Um, I, I cannot imagine that she's in like a conference room where
that conversation is happening.
It's more just people get paid to make those decisions, right?
Um, I think the co I think the conversation that we're having is twofold.
It's much like the conversation earlier is Sexyy Red.
Um, This is, I want people to experience their joy, and I want people to
have the best experiences possible.
And you know what?
We know that that tour is going to be beautiful and amazing and all the things.
I think the question is, to that point of, is this the
time to do something like that?
Right?
Is this the time to do that?
There could be a whole lot of ways to tour.
There's a whole lot of ways to tour right and and show up right
but We are in a moment right now,
and I ain't getting in nobody's pockets.
If you can, if you can afford it and go, if you can afford it and go.
But if you can't afford it, don't feel bad about not going.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah.
Jay Ray: And that's the thing I think we need to say to people is
it's like, it's not a ding on you.
You're not a Failure because you can't go to the, the Chitlin circuit tour, right?
That's not, uh, it's a rough time, right?
It's, it's not an easy moment that we're in right now.
You
DJ Sir Daniel: It doesn't, not being able to attend the concert does not
take away from your, your level of devotion and fanhood to this artist.
Like Jay Ray said, there are choices that have to be made and in this life,
in this life, you gotta make, you know,
Jay Ray: to eat them eggs Oh,
DJ Sir Daniel: a little bit more than, you know, um,
Jay Ray: Hold'em.
DJ Sir Daniel: the Saint Texas, Texas Hold'em.
It might sustain you just a little bit more than that.
But I get it, we're not here to yuck anybody's yum.
Jay Ray: go in and laugh, child.
DJ Sir Daniel: do what you, do what you need to do.
Find your joy, find your peace.
But, please don't go into bankruptcy about it.
Please don't.
Jay Ray: Please
DJ Sir Daniel: Please don't.
We want you to be, be, be smart about what you're doing.
Handle your business.
But yeah, so enjoy that.
But you know, you can always, always go to your favorite streaming service
and you can look up, um, A classic Spike Lee movie by the name of School
Days, and you can watch that for free.
You can watch the Rays sing, I don't wanna be alone
Jay Ray: You know, tonight,
yes!
DJ Sir Daniel: You can be entertained in the comfort of your home and celebrate
the 37th anniversary of Spike Lee's School Days right along with us.
37 years, Jay Ray.
Jay Ray: Um, and 37 years, that film.
Um, so much of what we love about the culture today was really kind of
birth inside of school days, right?
The in terms.
Yes, Baychella was literally birth from school day.
So school days is in everything.
And not only that.
Um, there are so many prominent performers that came out of that film.
Jasmine guy has often talked about was like, that was a lot of our first movie.
Like, do we had not been in a movie before that we were like stage kids
and all of a sudden we're in a film.
So that movie.
is so groundbreaking.
We talked about it.
Um, during hip hop's 50th anniversary.
Um, we talked about the career of Spike Lee and how important
Spike Lee has been to hip hop.
So definitely go back and check out that, um, that, that show.
DJ Sir Daniel: L. Jackson, that popped up in Kendrick Lamar's,
um, halftime performance, has a wonderful performance in school days.
A lot of your faves, like J. Rae said.
Started off in, um, school days or in a sparkly joint, but also remember Jay
Ray, one of the underlying stories, one of the backstories of school days
was there was a storyline about, um, about the school, uh, what's the term?
Um, because apartheid was a big story
Jay Ray: Mm hmm.
DJ Sir Daniel: 87 88.
Um, and so the school was benefiting from corporations that um, supported apartheid.
And Lawrence Fishburne's character divesting
Jay Ray: Divesting.
Mm
DJ Sir Daniel: so that the school could divest from those backers so
that they would not support apartheid.
And that's 37 years ago.
Jay Ray: here we are.
DJ Sir Daniel: issues are coming, are being brought up again in the, in,
in, in school days is happening today.
So it's like art.
That's the thing about good art,
Jay Ray: Yes.
DJ Sir Daniel: old it gets, it still speaks to whatever's happening right now.
And shout out to visit the chat.
Sam Jackson, um, played one of the Jay Ray Curl brothers at the KFC that
was mad about them educated brothers coming up in their neighborhood
talking all proper and stuff.
And he was wearing the Jay Ray Curl cap in, um, school days.
Jay Ray: Samuel L. Jackson is literally My God, he's been in everything
DJ Sir Daniel: a walking history book.
Jay Ray: he is
DJ Sir Daniel: He is a walking history
Jay Ray: now he's been Uncle Sam
DJ Sir Daniel: And now he's been Uncle Sam.
And, um, apparently, apparently some people were saying
that you shouldn't call him.
No, he was being Uncle Tom.
He was playing Uncle Tom and then I saw something about we shouldn't use
the term Uncle Tom, we should use the term Sambo when regarding to a black
person that's less than honorable.
That's a whole
Jay Ray: That's a whole nother conversation Lord Jesus, um, but yes 37
years of school days Um, so yeah, go watch school if you want to, if you want to
get a, you know, a little entertainment, go ahead and watch school days.
You know, it's, it's part drama, part musical, you know, all black.
It's Black History Month.
You should just go ahead and watch it.
DJ Sir Daniel: Good or bad hair?
See if I care.
Jay Ray: So, um, Sir Daniel, of course, tomorrow is a day.
Um, it is Valentine's Day tomorrow, Sir Daniel, um, and which is so interesting.
It's been so much going on.
It's crazy that it's Valentine's Day, but one of the things that of course happens
on Valentine's Day is people, and Sir Daniel, you used to have a whole set where
you just did your slow jam set, which was, of course, was mostly full of love
songs, but this brings up a question.
Um, what?
are your favorite, and it don't have to be more than one, but do
you have favorite hip hop love song?
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.
Um, I think I'll go, I feel, believe this is the first hip hop
Of course, LL Cool J's I Need Love.
Jay Ray: Mm hmm.
DJ Sir Daniel: Um, right after that for me is, Oh, A Teenage Love
Jay Ray: Teenage Love by Slick Rick is great.
DJ Sir Daniel: Don't hurt me again.
That's hot.
Don't hurt me again.
And um, Bonita Applebaum.
Jay Ray: Bonita Applebaum is a great, great song.
It's so sweet.
Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, um, what are favorite, uh, uh, hip hop love songs?
Of course, for me, Silent Treatment by The Roots is absolutely, I think, one of
the most gorgeous, um, slow jams, period.
Um, I think One Love by Houdini.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes.
Jay Ray: Love by Houdini definitely does a thing.
Um, You only get one.
One love.
Alright, I'm not gonna do, I'm not gonna do that.
Um, what else?
Uh, Did I pick another Roots song?
I can't pick another.
DJ Sir Daniel: do you think?
What about, um, Common?
Jay Ray: Which one?
Uh, uh, The comment has so many.
But you know what?
If I was gonna pick a common Love song.
I do love Love of My Life with Erykah Badu.
I think that's a great song.
Um, but there's also I'm gonna pick You Got Me, actually.
So, I got two root
DJ Sir Daniel: Dope.
Dope.
Jay Ray: I'm gonna pick You Got Me.
There are some We don't give
We don't give rappers enough credit.
DJ Sir Daniel: Yes, I agree.
Jay Ray: Oh, the light.
Yes.
Um, the light by, uh, uh, Common.
Um, you consider poor Georgia, wait a minute, this is like, you
consider poor Georgia a love song?
DJ Sir Daniel: You know MC light MC light it had quite a few
soliloquies about love gone wrong
Jay Ray: She did
she did,
DJ Sir Daniel: she was dating crackheads in high school and
Jay Ray: Uh, folks who are using alcohol, alcohol.
Yeah.
DJ Sir Daniel: Drug dealers all of them just had a lot
Jay Ray: sidebar, we talked, wasn't in our last meeting that we talked about
the fact that MC light storytelling is just my, like some of my favorite.
Cappuccino is just one of my favorite stories to hear.
DJ Sir Daniel: amazing.
She's, uh, she's right
Jay Ray: in and I ordered a cup.
Some guy behind the back said, shut up.
DJ Sir Daniel: And I did.
Pronto.
Jay Ray: Quick, fast.
DJ Sir Daniel: there with Slick Rick.
Like, she's, her narration is such an important part of rap music.
And shout out to those people that can entertain you and
spin a tale at the same time.
That takes a certain amount of skill.
So shout out to MC Lyte for that.
Um.
You know, shout out to Sam Georgie and all the and
Jay Ray: Roughneck is a love song.
DJ Sir Daniel: and roughneck.
Yes, indeed
Jay Ray: It's a tacky love song.
And you listen to Roughneck now and I'm like,
DJ Sir Daniel: Got to get a what?
Jay Ray: this young man needs other, has other problems.
DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, the last point of this, the last part
of this tangent that we're on.
So, people have caught on to the fact that MC Lyte, um, made a song
about messing around with a 17 year old or a young man that turned About
Jay Ray: Yeah.
Mm hmm.
DJ Sir Daniel: listen back to that But I saw a video somebody one of these young
people found it and they were like, uh, Excuse me MC light you were talking about
Essaying somebody that's under 17 But yes, that's, that's a story for another day.
That's a story for another day.
Go ahead.
Jay Ray: How Do I Love Thee by Queen Latifah.
DJ Sir Daniel: Dope.
Yes, indeed.
Jay Ray: do I love thee by Queen Latifah, which people do not
give that song enough credit.
You know, it's a hip house joint.
She's just kind of talking over it.
You know, it's very sensual.
She made a video for that song.
DJ Sir Daniel: I love that one as well.
And yes, shout out to Viz again.
Mahogany by Rakim.
Also a dope.
A dope.
Oh, to the opposite sex.
Which a lot of rappers are, do very well about.
So listen, JRE, let's wrap it up real quick, cause I know we gotta let the
people go back to what they were doing,
Jay Ray: Yes.
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Peace to the lie!
Respect to the lie,
Jay Ray: Okay.
We.
DJ Sir Daniel: to her lie, this
Jay Ray: We are not leaving until we talk about y'all.
Okay.
Real quick.
DJ Sir Daniel: That girl is a star.
Shout Onijah.
Onijah is back home in these United States.
She's already booked.
already so that's peace to the lie, respect to the
lie, and respect to her lie.
Jay Ray: She's amazing, y'all.
Like, I'm like, that woman is not well, but I love her.
DJ Sir Daniel: She is not well at all but yes indeed.
Thank you for joining us for this episode of Queue Points.
We'll see you on the next go round.
Peace to the
Jay Ray: Peace.
My God, let it go.