1 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:19,899 DJ Sir Daniel: Greetings and welcome to another episode of Queue Points podcast. 2 00:00:19,899 --> 00:00:21,079 I'm DJ Sir Daniel. 3 00:00:21,459 --> 00:00:24,450 Jay Ray: And my name is Jay Ray, sometimes known by my government 4 00:00:24,490 --> 00:00:26,709 as Johnny Ray Cornegay the third. 5 00:00:26,750 --> 00:00:28,139 What's happening, folks? 6 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:31,770 DJ Sir Daniel: Listen, Jay Ray, they say the best things in life are free, 7 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,789 Jay Ray: Mmm. 8 00:00:32,789 --> 00:00:36,309 DJ Sir Daniel: Queue Points podcast, because you don't have to take a second 9 00:00:36,310 --> 00:00:39,850 mortgage out on your home to get tickets to come to our show, but check it out. 10 00:00:40,609 --> 00:00:40,739 Jay Ray: Ah, 11 00:00:40,740 --> 00:00:41,580 shade. 12 00:00:41,580 --> 00:00:42,950 Uh 13 00:00:43,405 --> 00:00:44,125 DJ Sir Daniel: of Queue Points. 14 00:00:44,475 --> 00:00:48,545 We are the, the podcast dropping the needle on black music history and, 15 00:00:48,545 --> 00:00:54,074 um, JRay, so I was on, as I always do, I'm going through my social media feed 16 00:00:55,555 --> 00:01:03,084 The Jennifer Hudson show posted their latest pre show celebrity tunnel clip. 17 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:07,890 If you're all familiar with the pre show tunnel clip is when whoever 18 00:01:07,890 --> 00:01:12,810 the celebrity guest is they come walking down the the hallway and 19 00:01:12,820 --> 00:01:19,840 the the the the the the showrunners and the the uh the What are they 20 00:01:20,010 --> 00:01:21,230 Jay Ray: I guess the production team. 21 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Yeah. 22 00:01:22,490 --> 00:01:26,040 DJ Sir Daniel: is they they make up a song and they clap the person down the hall 23 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,420 while they do a little jig down the hall. 24 00:01:27,420 --> 00:01:28,050 It's really cute. 25 00:01:28,569 --> 00:01:29,509 It's a signature. 26 00:01:29,529 --> 00:01:34,609 It's a signature social media post for the Jennifer Hudson show and 27 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:36,429 it goes over really well with with. 28 00:01:36,654 --> 00:01:37,274 everybody. 29 00:01:37,705 --> 00:01:44,174 So, um, needless to say, I was super surprised when I saw today's feature 30 00:01:44,174 --> 00:01:47,204 was none other than Get It Sexy. 31 00:01:47,575 --> 00:01:48,925 Get It Sexy. 32 00:01:49,314 --> 00:01:50,545 Get It Sexy. 33 00:01:50,635 --> 00:01:54,044 Sexyy Red was coming down the hallway. 34 00:01:54,849 --> 00:02:01,050 And in true Sexyy Red fashion, she was being Sexyy Red. 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:06,470 She had on what I, Derek, she had on what I like to refer to as daytime lingerie. 36 00:02:06,599 --> 00:02:07,019 Right, 37 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,030 Jay Ray: But outside the house, like not in the bedroom, right? 38 00:02:12,670 --> 00:02:16,759 DJ Sir Daniel: She was, she was wearing her best daytime lingerie look, coming 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,940 down, and of course, you know, in Sexyy Red fashion, she bent it over and, you 40 00:02:21,940 --> 00:02:24,060 know, kind of cracked it a little bit. 41 00:02:24,510 --> 00:02:26,490 And they had to put a heart over it. 42 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:28,060 So they censored it. 43 00:02:28,070 --> 00:02:34,974 So that means know that it's a bit much for the Jennifer Hudson audience. 44 00:02:35,499 --> 00:02:35,969 Jay Ray: Yes. 45 00:02:37,655 --> 00:02:40,714 DJ Sir Daniel: yeah, so I was just like, when I saw that, I was like, 46 00:02:40,764 --> 00:02:43,684 um, this is where we doing now? 47 00:02:43,714 --> 00:02:44,334 This is where we at? 48 00:02:44,744 --> 00:02:47,964 Okay, so I'm, the question I have for y'all that are already in 49 00:02:47,964 --> 00:02:51,275 the chat and that are tuning in, because we have a, it's part of the 50 00:02:51,305 --> 00:02:52,984 larger topic that we have tonight. 51 00:02:53,415 --> 00:02:58,245 But, Jay Ray, is there anything, do we need to start shaming? 52 00:02:58,525 --> 00:03:01,365 People just a little bit or is there anything wrong with a little bit 53 00:03:01,365 --> 00:03:04,165 of shame these it's a little bit 54 00:03:04,700 --> 00:03:07,379 Jay Ray: don't, I don't. 55 00:03:07,849 --> 00:03:08,440 Yes. 56 00:03:08,469 --> 00:03:10,280 So it's just a general yes. 57 00:03:10,329 --> 00:03:11,300 I don't think it is. 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,459 We need to shame people because I don't think I'm gonna speak 59 00:03:15,469 --> 00:03:19,109 for I, I Johnny or Jay Ray. 60 00:03:19,459 --> 00:03:26,010 Hey, don't have the ability to just like shame somebody. 61 00:03:26,209 --> 00:03:28,070 Like, I don't feel like that's my place. 62 00:03:28,099 --> 00:03:30,339 I don't feel like that's you ain't my child. 63 00:03:30,359 --> 00:03:32,509 You ain't nobody that I can like, 64 00:03:32,514 --> 00:03:33,195 DJ Sir Daniel: you ain't mama. 65 00:03:33,204 --> 00:03:33,844 You ain't none of my 66 00:03:34,190 --> 00:03:35,680 Jay Ray: ain't none of my, you know what I'm saying? 67 00:03:35,899 --> 00:03:44,230 However, I Jay Ray do have some shame about myself and I'd be like, I am not 68 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:52,479 going to go on national television in the middle of the day and do this kind 69 00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:54,360 of foolishness going down the thing. 70 00:03:54,619 --> 00:03:57,540 Now, this is not a respectability politics thing. 71 00:03:57,540 --> 00:03:57,850 Y'all. 72 00:03:57,900 --> 00:04:03,019 I, sir, Daniel, you know me, I am so liberal, baby. 73 00:04:03,019 --> 00:04:03,620 You like it. 74 00:04:03,649 --> 00:04:04,250 I love it. 75 00:04:04,445 --> 00:04:05,795 It is fine, 76 00:04:05,815 --> 00:04:07,615 DJ Sir Daniel: we're not policing black women's 77 00:04:07,925 --> 00:04:10,675 Jay Ray: policing, black women, body, Sexyy Red could do 78 00:04:10,675 --> 00:04:12,915 whatever she wants with her body. 79 00:04:13,195 --> 00:04:18,015 However, and there's a time and place for stuff and, and on national TV 80 00:04:18,305 --> 00:04:22,395 going down the, the, the Jennifer Hudson soul train line, where do you 81 00:04:22,395 --> 00:04:24,324 got to put a heart over the thing? 82 00:04:24,355 --> 00:04:25,594 DJ Sir Daniel: over the booty here 83 00:04:25,985 --> 00:04:31,055 Jay Ray: seems like, it just seems like it's a bit much. 84 00:04:31,085 --> 00:04:34,405 And I think Kyriakos and Mark. 85 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:40,660 Are kind of echoing the thing that I think I think I get why she's a thing. 86 00:04:40,660 --> 00:04:42,940 So Kyriakos, I do get why she's a thing. 87 00:04:43,570 --> 00:04:45,289 I just don't think it's for me. 88 00:04:45,450 --> 00:04:48,250 It's definitely not for me, but honestly, I don't think it's I don't 89 00:04:48,250 --> 00:04:49,410 think it should be for a lot of people. 90 00:04:49,420 --> 00:04:53,729 There's she should come with. 91 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,449 She should literally walk around with a parental advisory 92 00:04:56,459 --> 00:04:58,809 label, like over her body. 93 00:04:59,035 --> 00:04:59,695 DJ Sir Daniel: her body. 94 00:04:59,965 --> 00:05:01,405 Shout out to Shannon Perez. 95 00:05:01,405 --> 00:05:02,765 Darby is in the, is in the 96 00:05:02,919 --> 00:05:03,089 Jay Ray: up, 97 00:05:03,315 --> 00:05:03,745 DJ Sir Daniel: chat. 98 00:05:03,915 --> 00:05:08,534 And it's so funny that she's in the chat because her, along with her show 99 00:05:08,534 --> 00:05:12,434 partner, we had a discussion, Tashmika, we had a discussion about this, something 100 00:05:12,445 --> 00:05:17,455 similar to this earlier last year, as a matter of fact, and it is coming 101 00:05:17,465 --> 00:05:19,595 around again, where it's almost like. 102 00:05:21,665 --> 00:05:23,095 Okay, I get it. 103 00:05:24,335 --> 00:05:26,165 I see where the ladies are going. 104 00:05:26,705 --> 00:05:31,875 Um, I don't want to make this about hammering that, hammering down the women 105 00:05:31,875 --> 00:05:35,285 that are in the game that are doing their thing because yes, we know they've 106 00:05:35,285 --> 00:05:38,275 been carrying the, um, we know that 107 00:05:38,305 --> 00:05:39,205 Jay Ray: hop on their back. 108 00:05:39,325 --> 00:05:40,094 DJ Sir Daniel: on their backs. 109 00:05:40,114 --> 00:05:42,079 They've been selling out shows. 110 00:05:42,230 --> 00:05:43,340 all of that good stuff. 111 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:50,920 I think we, Jay Ray and I just recall a time, as a matter of fact, 27 112 00:05:50,930 --> 00:05:56,600 years ago in the month of February, 27 years ago, Vibe magazine, um, 113 00:05:56,670 --> 00:05:59,040 February's issue was a double cover 114 00:05:59,145 --> 00:05:59,775 Jay Ray: Yes. 115 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:03,800 DJ Sir Daniel: and then it's this double cover featured the top hip 116 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,810 hop artists, both male and female. 117 00:06:06,220 --> 00:06:14,110 And this was such an iconic cover because this cover featured, uh, Kim, Lil Kim, 118 00:06:14,340 --> 00:06:18,240 Missy Elliot, Foxy Brown, Lauren Hill. 119 00:06:18,250 --> 00:06:22,760 They had their own cover cause they, they separated it by, um, men and women. 120 00:06:23,339 --> 00:06:25,530 And it was such a dope idea. 121 00:06:26,010 --> 00:06:28,629 Um, you know, of course we had the brat in the mix. 122 00:06:28,629 --> 00:06:30,649 You had Trina on the come up. 123 00:06:31,049 --> 00:06:35,280 You have Rod Diggle on the come up, a mill, all of these different 124 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:38,400 flavors of women in hip hop. 125 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,990 And they were all coexisting, J. 126 00:06:41,990 --> 00:06:42,300 Ray. 127 00:06:43,220 --> 00:06:44,250 Now, look at Kim. 128 00:06:44,605 --> 00:06:44,955 Jay Ray: Look, 129 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:47,870 DJ Sir Daniel: Kim is in full That ain't daytime 130 00:06:47,944 --> 00:06:49,585 Jay Ray: that's not daytime lingerie 131 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:53,330 DJ Sir Daniel: that's nighttime, you know, hardcore La Bella 132 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:55,099 Mafia lingerie right there. 133 00:06:55,099 --> 00:06:59,340 That's Kim doing what Kim does and having a great time doing it. 134 00:06:59,370 --> 00:07:00,860 And we respect her for it. 135 00:07:00,915 --> 00:07:01,405 Jay Ray: Yes, 136 00:07:02,290 --> 00:07:05,750 DJ Sir Daniel: But there was a time where, but Kim, Fox 137 00:07:05,825 --> 00:07:09,935 Jay Ray: look at like look at Lauren look at Missy look at Kim look at foxy like 138 00:07:10,355 --> 00:07:12,325 DJ Sir Daniel: it all, it coexisted together. 139 00:07:12,325 --> 00:07:16,685 They, everybody had their own flavor and was still selling records, 140 00:07:16,685 --> 00:07:21,575 winning, winning multiple Grammys, um, and all kinds of awards. 141 00:07:21,645 --> 00:07:24,395 But now it's just like, uh, what are we doing guys? 142 00:07:24,395 --> 00:07:25,595 What are, what are we doing here? 143 00:07:25,634 --> 00:07:26,695 How did we get here? 144 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,830 Jay Ray: How did we get how you got to sing the song? 145 00:07:31,455 --> 00:07:33,915 DJ Sir Daniel: did we, okay. 146 00:07:34,725 --> 00:07:37,735 Before we get, before we get kicked off of IG and 147 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,640 Jay Ray: Because you know, Deborah Cox will come on and be like how they said 148 00:07:40,650 --> 00:07:42,259 how they sounded so good singing my song. 149 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:42,670 Right? 150 00:07:43,610 --> 00:07:45,560 Um, so. 151 00:07:46,035 --> 00:07:53,895 What I absolutely love about this moment is it's such a 152 00:07:53,895 --> 00:07:57,985 variety of like styles, right? 153 00:07:58,035 --> 00:07:58,665 You know what I'm saying? 154 00:07:58,675 --> 00:07:59,855 Even when we look at the men. 155 00:07:59,874 --> 00:08:04,944 So you have LL, who by this point is a legitimate veteran, like 156 00:08:05,255 --> 00:08:09,315 LL is 13 years into his career. 157 00:08:10,105 --> 00:08:11,855 As part of this cover, right? 158 00:08:12,065 --> 00:08:15,515 So you got an LL, you have Busta Rhymes, you have Method Man, and 159 00:08:15,525 --> 00:08:20,525 you have Master P, who's fairly new on the national stage at this time. 160 00:08:20,525 --> 00:08:22,535 He had been around for a while, but nationally new. 161 00:08:22,845 --> 00:08:29,154 But let's go back to these women, to that point of like, there was a moment 162 00:08:29,185 --> 00:08:36,375 in time When Missy, Kim, Lauren, and Foxy could not only be on magazine 163 00:08:36,675 --> 00:08:43,225 covers together, they were all selling platinum albums at the exact same time 164 00:08:43,924 --> 00:08:51,274 and were able to do these different flavors of what hip hop was right now. 165 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,760 Everything is so one note, at least from a commercial. 166 00:08:56,770 --> 00:09:00,870 We're talking from a commercial standpoint because we can already hear y'all 167 00:09:00,870 --> 00:09:02,890 like there's a whole lot of rappers. 168 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:06,990 There are a whole lot of women who are out here killing the game. 169 00:09:07,330 --> 00:09:15,910 But commercially we get one type of thing that is currently happening. 170 00:09:17,410 --> 00:09:20,180 DJ Sir Daniel: And so here's the thing. 171 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:27,430 I, you know, I'm rubbing my crystal ball and I'm making a prediction here. 172 00:09:27,869 --> 00:09:29,999 I'm having a vision like Raven. 173 00:09:30,269 --> 00:09:31,239 That's so Raven. 174 00:09:31,670 --> 00:09:36,050 Like, I'm starting to feel like there's going to be a bust. 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:36,800 Jay Ray: There has to 176 00:09:36,830 --> 00:09:39,110 DJ Sir Daniel: like how the economy is about to bust and they're 177 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:42,310 warning that the, the housing, all that stuff is about to bust. 178 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:49,349 There's a B, there's about to be a, a bust in what people are going to. 179 00:09:49,975 --> 00:09:55,455 continue supporting, especially when it comes to female rap, because like 180 00:09:55,485 --> 00:09:59,934 we said earlier, female rap is pretty much carrying the game on, carrying 181 00:09:59,934 --> 00:10:01,525 the game on their back right now. 182 00:10:02,185 --> 00:10:07,534 But I predicted that there's going to be a bust that people aren't going to be. 183 00:10:08,215 --> 00:10:14,475 As likely to support or things aren't going to get be on the level as they 184 00:10:14,625 --> 00:10:18,825 were and I could be wrong here This is just me, but I'm starting to see 185 00:10:19,035 --> 00:10:22,855 well Maybe there might be people are getting desperate desperate 186 00:10:22,855 --> 00:10:24,514 times call for desperate measures. 187 00:10:24,845 --> 00:10:28,265 You even got the one young lady What was her 188 00:10:28,415 --> 00:10:28,765 Jay Ray: Who? 189 00:10:29,255 --> 00:10:32,935 DJ Sir Daniel: She's, now she's in a commercial featuring, uh, covering 190 00:10:32,985 --> 00:10:37,185 Kaya's My Neck, My Back, but it's for a, a Dove soap commercial. 191 00:10:37,405 --> 00:10:40,165 You know, the young lady that don't like children on a plane with her, 192 00:10:40,165 --> 00:10:43,055 that was going, was going head up with T. I. 's grandchildren, 193 00:10:43,425 --> 00:10:43,885 Jay Ray: What's her name? 194 00:10:43,885 --> 00:10:44,345 Chica? 195 00:10:44,784 --> 00:10:45,345 DJ Sir Daniel: That's it. 196 00:10:45,364 --> 00:10:47,314 The one that wanted to fight, um, T. 197 00:10:47,315 --> 00:10:48,245 I. 's grandchildren. 198 00:10:48,305 --> 00:10:48,555 Right. 199 00:10:48,865 --> 00:10:50,785 So now she's doing commercials. 200 00:10:51,130 --> 00:10:55,010 Singing a variation of My Neck, My Back, because it's hard out 201 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:59,330 here, it's hard out here for her, like someone that presents like 202 00:10:59,595 --> 00:11:00,115 Jay Ray: Mm hmm. 203 00:11:00,180 --> 00:11:04,260 DJ Sir Daniel: and raps like her is not going to be climbing on the charts. 204 00:11:04,395 --> 00:11:04,855 Jay Ray: Yes. 205 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,489 DJ Sir Daniel: So she's gotta, so even in her own small way, she's kind of 206 00:11:08,530 --> 00:11:16,270 acquiescing to what the, um, the, the, the marketplace is calling for in her own way. 207 00:11:17,110 --> 00:11:21,580 But now it's just getting I don't know I think it's kind of getting out of hand 208 00:11:21,580 --> 00:11:26,200 and there might just be a Blowback and there might just be it's not just gonna 209 00:11:26,210 --> 00:11:27,720 be the men that aren't selling right? 210 00:11:27,740 --> 00:11:32,780 They're gonna be declining sales in this whole rap game Completely 211 00:11:33,275 --> 00:11:38,065 Jay Ray: So, um, I want to shout out Kipper, who is also in the 212 00:11:38,074 --> 00:11:44,285 chat, who said, as with music in general, it will hit the wall, right? 213 00:11:44,294 --> 00:11:46,134 So it's what happens every time. 214 00:11:46,695 --> 00:11:54,105 Um, what, what I am, what gives me hope, what gives me hope is that. 215 00:11:54,850 --> 00:11:59,570 Listen, Rhapsody got her, her first Grammy this year, you know what I'm saying? 216 00:12:00,070 --> 00:12:09,020 And that woman has been churning out high quality albums for almost a decade 217 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:11,880 at this point, if not a decade, right? 218 00:12:12,119 --> 00:12:13,849 High quality material. 219 00:12:14,260 --> 00:12:17,010 And it does give me some hope that. 220 00:12:17,365 --> 00:12:18,765 You know, folks like her. 221 00:12:18,765 --> 00:12:20,445 So it's not just her out there. 222 00:12:20,455 --> 00:12:23,545 We have Tiara Wack and some of these other, you know, folks that 223 00:12:23,545 --> 00:12:28,195 are out there, LaKaylee47, all of these folks out there who are really 224 00:12:28,195 --> 00:12:31,555 making high quality hip hop, right? 225 00:12:31,875 --> 00:12:36,685 On the women's side, of course, we know Kendrick literally just reset. 226 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:41,870 What men in hip hop are required to do, right? 227 00:12:42,130 --> 00:12:46,650 I'm sure all of the dudes are sitting there like shaking in their boots about 228 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:48,020 DJ Sir Daniel: Now we gotta 229 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:48,430 Jay Ray: now. 230 00:12:48,430 --> 00:12:50,890 I got a rap I got a like right. 231 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,390 DJ Sir Daniel: I Gotta be deep and stuff. 232 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:54,440 Oh, man. 233 00:12:54,510 --> 00:12:54,890 Okay 234 00:12:54,930 --> 00:13:02,580 Jay Ray: Oh Man right, but for the women I feel like that same sort of reset Is, 235 00:13:02,580 --> 00:13:05,690 you know, on the way where it's just going to be required for them to like, 236 00:13:05,810 --> 00:13:07,950 to like, you know, pick up the pen again. 237 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:11,430 Well, the fortunate thing about women is actually the women have 238 00:13:11,460 --> 00:13:15,270 kind of been like, all of these women have been rapping, rapping. 239 00:13:15,550 --> 00:13:16,190 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 240 00:13:16,350 --> 00:13:16,750 True. 241 00:13:16,820 --> 00:13:19,639 Jay Ray: just image wise has been a whole other thing, but they've 242 00:13:19,650 --> 00:13:21,789 generally been like rapping, rapping. 243 00:13:22,099 --> 00:13:26,090 I think from an image perspective, that's where the bust is going to come. 244 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:27,370 Seeing the variety. 245 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:32,540 And how women can be presented to us from a commercial standpoint. 246 00:13:32,850 --> 00:13:33,300 DJ Sir Daniel: Right. 247 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,240 And you know, and speaking of the Grammys, we would be remiss 248 00:13:37,270 --> 00:13:39,620 if we did not bring up Dolce, 249 00:13:40,170 --> 00:13:40,990 Jay Ray: Love Dochi! 250 00:13:40,990 --> 00:13:41,805 Yeah, 251 00:13:42,130 --> 00:13:45,459 DJ Sir Daniel: like, really cleaned up at the Grammys on her 252 00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:50,170 first go round and has really done something special with her career. 253 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:55,680 And she, you know, she told that line of You know, of being sexy, 254 00:13:55,700 --> 00:14:00,360 you know, she was, she had a bikini bottom during her Grammy performance. 255 00:14:00,870 --> 00:14:02,040 But she was up there rapping. 256 00:14:02,115 --> 00:14:03,065 Jay Ray: She raps. 257 00:14:03,270 --> 00:14:05,930 DJ Sir Daniel: she raps down, like, and she spits. 258 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:10,920 And so, is Dolce like the, the final frontier? 259 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,129 Is she the last hope? 260 00:14:12,149 --> 00:14:18,440 It's like, but what if you, what if you can't, you can spit, God, God 261 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,910 forgive me for what I'm about to say. 262 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:22,639 What if you spit like Dolce, but you look like Dank? 263 00:14:24,515 --> 00:14:26,715 Jay Ray: I think that's fine, though, right? 264 00:14:26,745 --> 00:14:30,895 There's always, well, there's other problems with Dank, but the other Dank, 265 00:14:30,954 --> 00:14:33,064 there's other problems with Dank, though. 266 00:14:33,515 --> 00:14:34,945 So, the, okay. 267 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:39,270 This is actually a really interesting point, sir. Daniel, I think, 268 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:46,050 I think we are also at the point in commercial hip hop where 269 00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:49,810 gimmicks are kind of like some people think they need a gimmick. 270 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:55,280 And I think folks look at size now as like a gimmick. 271 00:14:55,390 --> 00:14:56,039 You know what I'm saying? 272 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:57,270 That they can play up. 273 00:14:58,060 --> 00:15:06,545 So I feel like if somebody was spitting like Dolce, and looked like dank, 274 00:15:06,845 --> 00:15:08,905 there's an opportunity for them. 275 00:15:09,265 --> 00:15:10,795 There's a, there's a lane for them. 276 00:15:10,815 --> 00:15:15,725 I think, you know, uh, uh, uh, who's our homegirl that, that we, 277 00:15:15,755 --> 00:15:19,374 that, that was, uh, body positivity and she just lost a lot of weight. 278 00:15:19,505 --> 00:15:20,065 Lizzo! 279 00:15:20,614 --> 00:15:22,054 Child, that's a shame. 280 00:15:22,054 --> 00:15:24,025 I couldn't remember that lady's name, honey. 281 00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:26,925 It's been a while and she's been through a lot. 282 00:15:27,175 --> 00:15:29,405 But I think Lizzo kind of opened. 283 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,560 up was possible. 284 00:15:33,290 --> 00:15:36,850 However, I think here's what it is. 285 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,380 The gimmicks have to stop, right? 286 00:15:39,730 --> 00:15:41,690 It's about letting the talent lead. 287 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:44,320 And I think if there's anything we can take from this moment, 288 00:15:44,670 --> 00:15:46,550 taking from Dolce, right? 289 00:15:46,849 --> 00:15:49,200 Letting your talent lead you, right? 290 00:15:49,210 --> 00:15:51,399 This is no, like, no, this is what I do. 291 00:15:51,419 --> 00:15:52,570 If you spit, you spit. 292 00:15:52,580 --> 00:15:53,480 This is what I do. 293 00:15:54,355 --> 00:15:55,585 No matter what you look like. 294 00:15:55,595 --> 00:15:57,825 So I think there would be room, but it's just like, you 295 00:15:57,825 --> 00:15:59,315 got to lean into what you do. 296 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:00,530 DJ Sir Daniel: For sure. 297 00:16:00,780 --> 00:16:04,880 And shout out to, um, I believe it's Infinite64, uh, wants 298 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,139 to join in the conversation. 299 00:16:06,139 --> 00:16:08,499 Please feel free to leave something in the chat. 300 00:16:08,910 --> 00:16:13,330 Um, that's the quickest way to, to hop in and be heard on the show. 301 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,919 But I, you know, I think you're right, J. Rey. 302 00:16:16,919 --> 00:16:21,850 I think we, it's where the gimmicks have to stop and the talent has to lead. 303 00:16:22,330 --> 00:16:22,960 Um, 304 00:16:25,075 --> 00:16:26,415 But here's the rub. 305 00:16:27,235 --> 00:16:35,075 We have, everything now has become so media led where it's like we 306 00:16:35,094 --> 00:16:37,544 don't care about the music anymore. 307 00:16:37,544 --> 00:16:39,505 We care about your personal life. 308 00:16:40,015 --> 00:16:45,625 We care about, you know, your baby father being on trial for shooting at someone. 309 00:16:45,635 --> 00:16:51,035 We care about your other baby daddy following you around at the, um, during 310 00:16:51,035 --> 00:16:53,635 the Superbowl because he's stalking you. 311 00:16:53,845 --> 00:16:54,605 We care about 312 00:16:54,885 --> 00:16:55,635 Jay Ray: This happened. 313 00:16:55,685 --> 00:16:56,525 I didn't hear about this. 314 00:16:56,775 --> 00:16:59,105 DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah, that was an offset Cardi B thing. 315 00:16:59,575 --> 00:17:01,285 Jay Ray: Jesus Christ, sir. 316 00:17:02,325 --> 00:17:05,435 DJ Sir Daniel: but, um, yeah, so those are the things that we, 317 00:17:05,455 --> 00:17:07,255 that people are showing up for. 318 00:17:07,575 --> 00:17:09,525 People are showing up for the public meltdowns. 319 00:17:09,985 --> 00:17:13,314 People are showing up for, you know, how much weight you lost. 320 00:17:13,325 --> 00:17:18,255 People are showing up for whether or not, you know, your BBL is clockable or not. 321 00:17:18,625 --> 00:17:22,605 That's the stuff that I think we, we play a role in it as well. 322 00:17:23,245 --> 00:17:29,225 We play a huge role in it as consumers and No longer, they're 323 00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:30,975 dictating to us what's hot. 324 00:17:31,035 --> 00:17:36,195 We're no longer dictating what the culture should represent. 325 00:17:36,204 --> 00:17:40,415 We're no longer dictating what's fly and what's hot. 326 00:17:40,485 --> 00:17:41,944 It's being served to us. 327 00:17:41,945 --> 00:17:44,685 It's being, actually, it's being pushed down our throats, 328 00:17:45,174 --> 00:17:46,495 whether we know it or not. 329 00:17:47,485 --> 00:17:48,554 Jay Ray: Sir, Daniel. 330 00:17:49,894 --> 00:17:53,465 I, this leads me to also wonder. 331 00:17:56,020 --> 00:18:02,040 How important do you think it's going to be important for us to 332 00:18:02,050 --> 00:18:06,010 get back to like crews and groups? 333 00:18:06,369 --> 00:18:11,000 I feel like so much of the creativity gets stifled because these 334 00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:13,340 artists are in their own bubbles. 335 00:18:13,410 --> 00:18:14,329 You know what I mean? 336 00:18:14,609 --> 00:18:16,360 Like they don't have like a crew. 337 00:18:16,650 --> 00:18:20,360 They don't have a crew that they're trying to compete against to rap against. 338 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,220 It's just them. 339 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,300 You know what I mean? 340 00:18:23,620 --> 00:18:27,800 And the people who work with them, but a lot of times it's not just like other 341 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,770 emcees that you just kind of work with. 342 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:37,899 I feel like that creativity, that, that push, that drive to do something really 343 00:18:37,899 --> 00:18:40,110 does sometimes happen in community. 344 00:18:40,499 --> 00:18:44,050 And I'm wondering if we've gotten so far away from that. 345 00:18:44,615 --> 00:18:45,065 DJ Sir Daniel: Mm. 346 00:18:45,310 --> 00:18:46,160 Jay Ray: for a lot of reasons. 347 00:18:46,190 --> 00:18:49,620 I think, you know, money wise, it's just easier to be a solo act 348 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:51,090 because you get to keep it all 349 00:18:51,175 --> 00:18:51,585 DJ Sir Daniel: Oh, yeah. 350 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:57,080 Jay Ray: And, uh, uh, big corporations don't want to pay all them people. 351 00:18:57,780 --> 00:18:58,350 You know what I'm saying? 352 00:18:58,410 --> 00:19:01,009 They don't want to have to worry about the hassle of it all. 353 00:19:01,569 --> 00:19:09,512 But I am wondering if that creativity means that we also need to be 354 00:19:09,512 --> 00:19:13,642 spending more time together as people in rooms like doing stuff. 355 00:19:13,642 --> 00:19:14,393 Mm hmm. 356 00:19:14,393 --> 00:19:14,769 Mm 357 00:19:14,985 --> 00:19:16,035 DJ Sir Daniel: It's quite possible. 358 00:19:16,065 --> 00:19:17,945 It It's very possible. 359 00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:22,345 I mean, you mentioned this in a prior episode about the same thing 360 00:19:22,405 --> 00:19:28,475 about people being separated, about crews being separated and community 361 00:19:28,475 --> 00:19:36,115 at the very beginning, at the very, um, at the very nexus of this art 362 00:19:36,115 --> 00:19:38,545 form of hip hop was the thing people. 363 00:19:39,540 --> 00:19:44,990 joining together in community centers, rec centers, um, battles, all of those 364 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,690 things, those things were happening. 365 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:51,899 But it's like, again, when the corporations came in, they split people 366 00:19:51,899 --> 00:19:56,550 up because they realized that there is money to be made in separation. 367 00:19:56,950 --> 00:20:02,359 There's money to be made through contention, battling, even though battling 368 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:04,679 was, battling has been around, but it was. 369 00:20:05,020 --> 00:20:06,700 It was a friendly sport 370 00:20:06,705 --> 00:20:07,495 Jay Ray: It's a sport! 371 00:20:07,605 --> 00:20:08,685 Like Kendrick talked about. 372 00:20:08,695 --> 00:20:10,655 He was like, I'm into it for the sport. 373 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:11,910 DJ Sir Daniel: for the sport of things. 374 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,530 So, and, and so, okay. 375 00:20:14,530 --> 00:20:18,990 So this, this is a perfect place to segue into a break 376 00:20:19,115 --> 00:20:19,505 Jay Ray: Mm hmm. 377 00:20:19,700 --> 00:20:23,190 DJ Sir Daniel: come back because speaking of Kendrick, I think there's 378 00:20:23,190 --> 00:20:26,380 a lot of people who don't understand. 379 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:32,250 what is, what was going on with the whole Kendrick Drake thing. 380 00:20:32,270 --> 00:20:37,489 And so therefore they can't understand the halftime performance. 381 00:20:37,750 --> 00:20:41,020 And so there's a lot of people speaking on things that they don't know about. 382 00:20:41,690 --> 00:20:43,699 And that's grinding my 383 00:20:43,815 --> 00:20:45,034 Jay Ray: That ain't their place. 384 00:20:45,545 --> 00:20:47,534 DJ Sir Daniel: Right, that's grinding my gears at this point. 385 00:20:47,865 --> 00:20:51,815 So we are going to wrap up this conversation about the ladies and 386 00:20:51,825 --> 00:20:57,645 hopefully, you know, hopefully the ladies will continue to deliver quality and as 387 00:20:57,645 --> 00:21:00,525 well as, um, variety in the nearby future. 388 00:21:00,844 --> 00:21:02,344 But Jay Ray, when we come back. 389 00:21:02,985 --> 00:21:04,205 We got a couple things to talk about. 390 00:21:04,205 --> 00:21:06,695 We're going to talk about halftime performances. 391 00:21:07,025 --> 00:21:11,985 It's the 37th anniversary of one of Spike Lee's most famous movies. 392 00:21:12,744 --> 00:21:16,955 And um, we also gonna just touch on the ticket situation, you know, 393 00:21:16,965 --> 00:21:18,784 giddy up for the Cowboy Carter show. 394 00:21:19,165 --> 00:21:21,895 Anyway, this is Queue Points podcast. 395 00:21:21,924 --> 00:21:22,975 I'm DJ Sir Daniel, 396 00:21:22,975 --> 00:21:23,794 Jay Ray: I'm Jay Ray, y'all. 397 00:21:24,365 --> 00:21:27,055 DJ Sir Daniel: and we are dropping the needle on black music history. 398 00:21:27,055 --> 00:21:29,905 And we will continue to do so on the other side of this break. 399 00:21:29,905 --> 00:21:31,355 So you don't go nowhere. 400 00:21:31,365 --> 00:21:32,554 You stay right where you are. 401 00:21:32,565 --> 00:21:34,265 We'll be right back after this. 402 00:21:36,355 --> 00:21:41,685 So Jay Ray, you know, we've recently had a string of bad weather . And 403 00:21:41,685 --> 00:21:44,845 you know who I kept thinking about, especially on the snow days? 404 00:21:44,935 --> 00:21:46,825 I kept thinking about parents. 405 00:21:46,885 --> 00:21:50,655 I can't imagine being a parent and having to come up with things like to 406 00:21:50,975 --> 00:21:55,245 occupy your children's time, but at the same time, they're missing school. 407 00:21:55,285 --> 00:21:57,705 So you want it to be a productive time as well. 408 00:21:58,175 --> 00:22:03,025 Luckily, Luckily for all our parents out there, we have a 409 00:22:03,035 --> 00:22:04,915 great friend by the name of Penny. 410 00:22:04,995 --> 00:22:07,325 I'm talking about "What's Poppin' Penny?," the 411 00:22:07,325 --> 00:22:08,995 fantastic children's show. 412 00:22:09,025 --> 00:22:12,525 And it is now available on YouTube, Jay Ray. 413 00:22:12,985 --> 00:22:16,615 Their first animated episode is coming out this spring of 2025. 414 00:22:17,605 --> 00:22:18,375 That's right. 415 00:22:18,385 --> 00:22:19,275 DJ Sir Daniel. 416 00:22:19,285 --> 00:22:21,011 So it is the goal to have 1000 subscribers on the "What's 417 00:22:21,055 --> 00:22:24,215 Poppin' Penny?" 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434 00:23:26,315 --> 00:23:27,005 Jay Ray: what up doe? 435 00:23:27,250 --> 00:23:31,570 Adam actually is over there on from Detroit to talking about what up though. 436 00:23:31,570 --> 00:23:34,960 So Detroit is on tick tock, checking us out. 437 00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:35,960 You know what I mean? 438 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,740 So shout out to y'all and shout out to everyone who is joining us, um, 439 00:23:39,810 --> 00:23:43,270 on YouTube, Facebook, and Instagram. 440 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,720 We appreciate y'all so much. 441 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:45,580 Shout us out. 442 00:23:45,580 --> 00:23:47,370 Let us know where you're tuning in from. 443 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:51,160 Sir, Dan, yo, we got a couple other topics 444 00:23:51,510 --> 00:23:52,310 DJ Sir Daniel: we sure do. 445 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,760 It's so funny that Detroit is in the building cause they got 446 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,450 a whole doll battle going on in 447 00:23:56,550 --> 00:23:59,330 Jay Ray: yes, it's I which I was just like what's happening 448 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,080 DJ Sir Daniel: we battling over dolls 449 00:24:02,180 --> 00:24:02,580 Jay Ray: Right 450 00:24:03,910 --> 00:24:04,930 DJ Sir Daniel: But please go ahead. 451 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:12,410 Jay Ray: So upcoming so in terms of this Sunday this past Sunday 452 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:12,860 DJ Sir Daniel: hmm. 453 00:24:13,965 --> 00:24:16,195 Jay Ray: There was a concert that had a football game. 454 00:24:16,450 --> 00:24:16,830 DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah. 455 00:24:17,175 --> 00:24:18,635 Jay Ray: There was a concert that had a football game. 456 00:24:18,965 --> 00:24:21,545 Fortunately, Philadelphia Eagles won. 457 00:24:21,565 --> 00:24:22,295 I live in Chester. 458 00:24:22,295 --> 00:24:23,005 So shout out to the 459 00:24:23,025 --> 00:24:23,625 Eagles. 460 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,430 DJ Sir Daniel: to the home team. 461 00:24:24,515 --> 00:24:29,125 Jay Ray: Yeah, but within, you know, so that was one thing. 462 00:24:29,125 --> 00:24:32,195 But the big thing was the record breaking. 463 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,410 Half time show, um, by one, um, Kendrick Lamar. 464 00:24:37,745 --> 00:24:39,785 DJ Sir Daniel: That wasn't, that wasn't record breaking. 465 00:24:39,785 --> 00:24:41,745 He wasn't more popular than Usher. 466 00:24:41,745 --> 00:24:43,595 That wasn't, nah, nah, nah, 467 00:24:44,410 --> 00:24:47,720 Jay Ray: According to the numbers, y'all, I, listen, I didn't make it up. 468 00:24:47,780 --> 00:24:49,750 I, I've only looked at the reporting. 469 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,960 I don't know if all the reporting from reputable sources is wrong, 470 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:58,100 but apparently it was a record breaking half time display. 471 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,650 How, in addition, though, Sir Daniel, 472 00:25:03,870 --> 00:25:07,780 It was culturally relevant. 473 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:12,660 That was the thing that I think for me was most important. 474 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,550 My fear was, so here's my fear going in. 475 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:19,430 I'm like, they done booked Kendrick Lamar for this halftime show. 476 00:25:20,030 --> 00:25:25,310 And he gonna have to not do what needs to be done. 477 00:25:25,470 --> 00:25:26,250 You know what I mean? 478 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,590 Because that is what They will require. 479 00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:31,630 I was wrong. 480 00:25:32,020 --> 00:25:35,720 So when the, when the, apparently when the, I guess it was the owner 481 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,370 or the head of the NFL was like, Kendrick could do whatever he wants. 482 00:25:38,820 --> 00:25:41,340 They literally let that man kind of do whatever he wants. 483 00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:44,850 I'm like, Oh, you, you really are doing this. 484 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:52,030 And thank you for putting black culture, black men together on that 485 00:25:52,030 --> 00:25:54,930 field to speak to our experience. 486 00:25:55,140 --> 00:25:55,530 So. 487 00:25:55,985 --> 00:25:58,405 That's a thing that happened this week. 488 00:25:58,645 --> 00:25:59,485 DJ Sir Daniel: It sure did. 489 00:25:59,485 --> 00:25:59,855 Let's see. 490 00:25:59,855 --> 00:26:01,625 Sunday was what? 491 00:26:02,575 --> 00:26:03,265 Five? 492 00:26:03,665 --> 00:26:04,005 No. 493 00:26:04,535 --> 00:26:05,165 Let's math. 494 00:26:05,555 --> 00:26:06,085 Sunday, 495 00:26:06,235 --> 00:26:07,295 Jay Ray: Sunday was a four day. 496 00:26:07,315 --> 00:26:07,575 Oh, yeah 497 00:26:07,575 --> 00:26:08,725 about four days ago, 498 00:26:08,905 --> 00:26:09,935 DJ Sir Daniel: Four days ago. 499 00:26:11,595 --> 00:26:13,885 People are still talking about it, Jay Ray. 500 00:26:14,135 --> 00:26:16,215 Jay Ray: That's when you know, you hit that's what you know 501 00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:18,900 DJ Sir Daniel: They are still talking and people, not only are 502 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,760 they still talking about it, but some people are a little butt hurt 503 00:26:22,790 --> 00:26:26,640 over the fact that it took place. 504 00:26:26,910 --> 00:26:30,630 Their butt hurt, hurt over the fact that it was Kendrick. 505 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:31,230 First of all. 506 00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:38,460 First of all, they're salty because of course he did perform they 507 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:42,510 not like us, which is con is a controversial song of the summer. 508 00:26:43,620 --> 00:26:45,150 They are. 509 00:26:45,925 --> 00:26:49,725 You know, they're salty just because, oh, they're salty because, what did 510 00:26:49,725 --> 00:26:51,325 the young lady say from England? 511 00:26:51,635 --> 00:26:54,965 When I, when I watch The Hat Times, I do not want to think. 512 00:26:55,325 --> 00:26:56,905 I want to be entertained. 513 00:26:57,195 --> 00:26:57,535 Jay Ray: That's 514 00:26:57,685 --> 00:26:59,335 DJ Sir Daniel: want, I don't want to think. 515 00:26:59,495 --> 00:27:01,135 I want to, and you know what? 516 00:27:02,275 --> 00:27:02,735 Jay Ray: for you 517 00:27:02,755 --> 00:27:05,085 DJ Sir Daniel: Good for you, but you're going to get, 518 00:27:05,095 --> 00:27:06,245 you're going to get knowledge. 519 00:27:06,245 --> 00:27:06,705 You're going to get 520 00:27:06,855 --> 00:27:08,655 Jay Ray: You're going to get this word, you're going to get better 521 00:27:08,655 --> 00:27:11,225 knowledge, you're getting with the people you need to get with. 522 00:27:11,985 --> 00:27:14,905 DJ Sir Daniel: And unfortunately, sis, that's what's going to happen. 523 00:27:15,345 --> 00:27:17,735 Um, that's what happened with the Kendrick Lamar show. 524 00:27:18,165 --> 00:27:23,555 Um, I think that, and I really, this will be the only time you hear us talk about 525 00:27:23,555 --> 00:27:25,035 it, cause we're not going to go on for. 526 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,030 Weeks talking about this thing 527 00:27:27,405 --> 00:27:30,435 Jay Ray: But you can invite us on to your, to other platforms. 528 00:27:30,435 --> 00:27:33,625 If you want us to come on at Wax Poetic about, there's so much we 529 00:27:33,625 --> 00:27:35,535 could talk about, invite us on. 530 00:27:35,645 --> 00:27:38,725 We won't do that over here, but we'll come over to your, your platform. 531 00:27:38,725 --> 00:27:40,885 So if you want to have Queue Points come over, let us know. 532 00:27:41,020 --> 00:27:43,550 DJ Sir Daniel: That's fair I'm not but I'm not arguing about who's the 533 00:27:43,550 --> 00:27:45,430 biggest star between Kendrick and Drake 534 00:27:45,685 --> 00:27:47,425 Jay Ray: Oh, I'm not having that conversation. 535 00:27:47,550 --> 00:27:50,310 DJ Sir Daniel: we that's dead I'll leave that to those other 536 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,030 podcasts and But what was I saying? 537 00:27:54,300 --> 00:28:00,670 It's just The idea so yes, so the young lady was saying she doesn't want to think 538 00:28:00,690 --> 00:28:06,050 we just want to you know Have a good show and then there's this argument about 539 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,990 Whether or not that was the worst, um, Super Bowl halftime performance ever. 540 00:28:12,220 --> 00:28:14,800 And that's being said by people on the right wing. 541 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,870 Of course, you know, Fox and Friends, they're gonna say that because, 542 00:28:18,170 --> 00:28:22,910 well, you know, um, there were a lot of, it was, it was culturally 543 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:27,960 aware, and they can't stand when we do things that are culturally aware. 544 00:28:28,915 --> 00:28:33,085 And where we do things that are, well, you know, their favorite word woke, 545 00:28:33,105 --> 00:28:35,035 they can't stand anything that's woke. 546 00:28:35,575 --> 00:28:44,075 And I had to, I had to sit back and think about, we see a cleansing already. 547 00:28:44,085 --> 00:28:46,925 This administration is already doing a cleansing. 548 00:28:47,585 --> 00:28:52,715 of anything cultural or anything that would cause you to think or 549 00:28:52,735 --> 00:28:56,975 have any kind of critical thinking skills, another scary word. 550 00:28:57,465 --> 00:28:59,625 There's a, they're being, they're being cleansed out. 551 00:28:59,625 --> 00:29:02,695 You see the Kennedy Center is, um, purging. 552 00:29:02,725 --> 00:29:03,685 People are leaving. 553 00:29:03,715 --> 00:29:05,045 Issa Rae is leaving. 554 00:29:05,345 --> 00:29:07,738 Um, somebody else, um, publicly said that 555 00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:09,550 Jay Ray: Rhimes, step down. 556 00:29:09,785 --> 00:29:10,285 DJ Sir Daniel: yes. 557 00:29:10,575 --> 00:29:15,005 So, we're seeing things, we're seeing that people, there's 558 00:29:15,005 --> 00:29:19,690 gonna be a, a a very Stark line. 559 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,200 This is not an this is not an invisible line. 560 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,280 This is not a scrimmage line See I gave y'all a football term. 561 00:29:26,580 --> 00:29:27,410 This is not a scrimmage. 562 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:34,770 This is not imaginary a real line is being drawn Between people, between people that 563 00:29:34,770 --> 00:29:42,230 want to exchange ideas and uphold history, teach history, exchange knowledge. 564 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:47,580 And then there's the other half that wants to just completely control narratives, 565 00:29:47,990 --> 00:29:51,190 control information, and control thoughts. 566 00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:57,340 And so I think what This performance did on a grander scheme is it exposed 567 00:29:57,370 --> 00:30:00,290 and made that line very, very visible. 568 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:05,150 And it just is like a starting point of more foolishness to come with 569 00:30:05,150 --> 00:30:10,310 the administration that we have in office now and just the world and just 570 00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:14,740 the world in general, like they're thinkers and they're non thinkers. 571 00:30:15,980 --> 00:30:20,120 Jay Ray: Listen, Toni Morrison, um, there's the great, uh, Toni 572 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:26,380 Morrison in 1975 did this talk at, I think, Portland State, I believe 573 00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:27,540 is where that talk took place. 574 00:30:27,870 --> 00:30:29,360 It gets sampled all the time. 575 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:31,870 People are always pulling from that, that conversation. 576 00:30:32,180 --> 00:30:40,415 But one of the things she talked about was how when people When racism, when 577 00:30:40,415 --> 00:30:44,565 people want to take control, they start erasing your culture, right? 578 00:30:44,620 --> 00:30:45,280 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 579 00:30:45,425 --> 00:30:47,765 Jay Ray: Can't let you have it, because what, when you start being 580 00:30:47,765 --> 00:30:51,165 able to think, when you start being able to see, it creates imagination, 581 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,130 DJ Sir Daniel: have pride. 582 00:30:52,185 --> 00:30:56,505 Jay Ray: You have pride, and you suddenly, all of a sudden, you don't want to 583 00:30:56,505 --> 00:30:58,915 do what they want you to do, right? 584 00:30:59,405 --> 00:31:02,915 So, I think we're definitely at that point. 585 00:31:03,175 --> 00:31:11,130 It is not surprising that what we're seeing happen, in particular with 586 00:31:11,130 --> 00:31:12,660 the Kennedy Center, is happening. 587 00:31:13,130 --> 00:31:19,800 Um, what I think we must do, and what Kendrick was, to your point, really 588 00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:24,900 making sure that we know that we have to do, is we have to do this. 589 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,420 We gotta come here and do Queue Points every week. 590 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:31,200 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 591 00:31:31,910 --> 00:31:32,710 Jay Ray: We have to. 592 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,110 This is our work. 593 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:40,910 We can't let this history go untold because it will be erased. 594 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600 We are the people that hold the history. 595 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,930 If we don't talk about it, the people that hold the history will pass on and 596 00:31:46,930 --> 00:31:48,680 it will be, where is it going to be? 597 00:31:50,540 --> 00:31:54,650 DJ Sir Daniel: It's a battle between culture and corporation. 598 00:31:55,605 --> 00:32:00,945 And it just so happens that I saw a clip today that spoke to this 599 00:32:00,945 --> 00:32:06,025 conversation that we're having now and It comes from somebody 600 00:32:06,055 --> 00:32:08,235 that I admired so much growing up. 601 00:32:08,815 --> 00:32:13,815 And even though, you know, he's had a few hiccups in, in his career too. 602 00:32:13,995 --> 00:32:19,155 And some things that we chose not to speak about or that are, have 603 00:32:19,155 --> 00:32:22,575 not been spoken about, but KRS One. 604 00:32:23,325 --> 00:32:25,985 Um, was on with, what's my 605 00:32:26,030 --> 00:32:26,760 Jay Ray: Be real. 606 00:32:26,905 --> 00:32:30,705 DJ Sir Daniel: Be Real from Cypress Hill and told me, gave an 607 00:32:30,715 --> 00:32:34,845 anecdote of a, uh, something that happened that speaks volumes to 608 00:32:34,845 --> 00:32:36,185 what we were talking about tonight. 609 00:32:36,425 --> 00:32:39,975 And we just want to run this clip for you because I think it drives the point home. 610 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:40,610 Jay Ray: I agree. 611 00:32:40,620 --> 00:32:44,660 So y'all, this point, this clip is long, but it's perfect. 612 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:45,800 And it's Chris. 613 00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:48,210 So just check it out. 614 00:32:48,565 --> 00:32:50,055 And we, you know what I mean? 615 00:32:50,075 --> 00:32:53,085 And we gonna, uh, come back and talk about it. 616 00:37:36,665 --> 00:37:37,535 Yeah. 617 00:37:39,025 --> 00:37:45,085 DJ Sir Daniel: That, I, there's no way, no other, there was a better way that that 618 00:37:45,395 --> 00:37:53,215 could have capsulized Everything that is going on today, whether it's Kendrick's 619 00:37:53,265 --> 00:37:58,445 performance, whether it's the battle between him and Drake, whether it's, um, 620 00:37:58,965 --> 00:38:02,965 whether or not we have black history or not, or can we, we can say it out loud, 621 00:38:03,555 --> 00:38:07,155 there is a war on culture right now. 622 00:38:07,455 --> 00:38:08,705 Corporations. 623 00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:13,950 are making it known that they are here to take over everything, 624 00:38:14,550 --> 00:38:17,840 but choices have to be made. 625 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:23,170 Choices have to be made, like intention, moving with intention 626 00:38:23,790 --> 00:38:30,840 has to be done in order for people to, in order for culture to survive. 627 00:38:31,910 --> 00:38:33,540 And that's the bottom line. 628 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:33,820 It's like. 629 00:38:34,335 --> 00:38:37,705 We're going to see, we're going to see people, we're going to 630 00:38:37,735 --> 00:38:39,155 see who's real and who's not. 631 00:38:39,775 --> 00:38:41,905 We're going to see who's for the culture and who's not. 632 00:38:42,345 --> 00:38:46,285 We're going to see people that will, you know, a term that's going to come back up 633 00:38:46,285 --> 00:38:47,635 is what we used to say back in the day. 634 00:38:47,635 --> 00:38:50,355 People are going, you're going to see who's a sellout and who's not. 635 00:38:51,345 --> 00:38:53,045 It's going to be so apparent. 636 00:38:53,325 --> 00:38:57,365 And the people that lead with money. 637 00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:01,140 And seeing how much money they have or flashing money. 638 00:39:02,540 --> 00:39:05,640 We can pretty much surmise that those are the ones that aren't 639 00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:09,990 on the side of corporate and corporations and not the culture. 640 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:10,580 Jay Ray: Yeah. 641 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:16,380 And the thing about this is, in, in, in full transparency, and I'm sure Sir Daniel 642 00:39:16,380 --> 00:39:22,560 will be cool with me just talking about this, like, internal to CuePoints, we've 643 00:39:22,570 --> 00:39:24,370 been having this conversation, right? 644 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,910 Deciding where, where the line is, right? 645 00:39:29,590 --> 00:39:34,870 And when we, we literally just like two weeks ago said, we can't do that. 646 00:39:36,330 --> 00:39:37,880 It was, and that was what? 647 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:39,539 Like 5, 000? 648 00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:42,580 5, 000. We need that 5, 000. 649 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:43,070 Let's be 650 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,930 very clear. 651 00:39:44,630 --> 00:39:46,240 Should we monetize here? 652 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:47,710 We need this right. 653 00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:50,430 To be able to keep doing what it is that we do. 654 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:52,840 This is not a cheap thing to do. 655 00:39:52,850 --> 00:39:53,290 Right. 656 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:56,710 But it was like, and it was user day. 657 00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:59,670 It was like, yeah, but we can't. 658 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,310 And you were like, you're right. 659 00:40:02,550 --> 00:40:03,300 We can't. 660 00:40:03,730 --> 00:40:07,540 We cannot, we gotta, we gotta make these choices. 661 00:40:07,540 --> 00:40:07,850 Right. 662 00:40:07,850 --> 00:40:14,340 And so it you're absolutely right, sir. Daniel, like it is going to become really, 663 00:40:14,610 --> 00:40:18,310 really apparent and y'all big and small. 664 00:40:19,105 --> 00:40:24,595 We have to decide who we are, like, who, what we, what we going 665 00:40:24,595 --> 00:40:25,745 to do and what we not going to do. 666 00:40:26,235 --> 00:40:29,425 And we going to stand on what we, we going to stand on who we are. 667 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:32,680 DJ Sir Daniel: So perfect place to bring this up and I hope we don't 668 00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:36,790 get stung too, too bad by the beehive because the beehive is buzzing. 669 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:45,240 Um, is Are we seeing the Cowboy Carter concert series, the Chitlin Circuit tour 670 00:40:45,585 --> 00:40:46,645 Jay Ray: Stop it! 671 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:48,680 DJ Sir Daniel: No, that's what it's called, the Chitlin 672 00:40:48,885 --> 00:40:49,415 Jay Ray: Oh, is that what it's 673 00:40:49,415 --> 00:40:49,735 called? 674 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:51,110 DJ Sir Daniel: hmm. 675 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:51,940 Which I adore. 676 00:40:51,940 --> 00:40:55,190 I like the fact that it's called the Chitlin Circuit because it pays homage. 677 00:40:56,030 --> 00:40:58,890 But people are complaining about the prices. 678 00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:02,480 And, you know, again, this is a business. 679 00:41:02,790 --> 00:41:03,450 Um. 680 00:41:03,870 --> 00:41:07,520 There's a lot, and now we probably could have a whole discussion about this alone, 681 00:41:07,930 --> 00:41:13,600 but it's, it falls in line with what we're talking about, is, we know people 682 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:21,650 are in the business to make money, but should Is it, is it, are these prices tone 683 00:41:21,650 --> 00:41:27,510 deaf, you know, eggs or concert tickets, 684 00:41:27,605 --> 00:41:30,375 Jay Ray: That's literally the choices we have to make nowadays. 685 00:41:30,410 --> 00:41:30,950 DJ Sir Daniel: have to make 686 00:41:31,045 --> 00:41:32,295 Jay Ray: choices we have to make. 687 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,010 DJ Sir Daniel: and not saying that, um, the artist is responsible 688 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:38,810 for making those ticket prices. 689 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:40,420 I don't, I don't know. 690 00:41:40,860 --> 00:41:44,950 Uh, I'm, I'm very curious if anybody has any insight to how 691 00:41:44,950 --> 00:41:47,770 ticket prices are calculated. 692 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,550 We would love to hear about it. 693 00:41:49,975 --> 00:41:51,395 Jay Ray: It's, it's a combination. 694 00:41:51,770 --> 00:41:52,610 DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, so it is 695 00:41:52,635 --> 00:41:54,455 Jay Ray: it's, it's it's definitely a combination. 696 00:41:54,805 --> 00:41:56,409 Because, it, it, it, it, it. 697 00:41:56,930 --> 00:41:59,150 The, the, the, the team, 698 00:41:59,365 --> 00:42:00,065 DJ Sir Daniel: Uh huh. 699 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,560 Jay Ray: if you are working at that level, there are people who work for 700 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,590 you who do all of that stuff, right? 701 00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:12,740 Um, I, I cannot imagine that she's in like a conference room where 702 00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:14,310 that conversation is happening. 703 00:42:14,570 --> 00:42:17,550 It's more just people get paid to make those decisions, right? 704 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:26,080 Um, I think the co I think the conversation that we're having is twofold. 705 00:42:26,090 --> 00:42:28,330 It's much like the conversation earlier is Sexyy Red. 706 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,680 Um, This is, I want people to experience their joy, and I want people to 707 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,450 have the best experiences possible. 708 00:42:38,490 --> 00:42:39,250 And you know what? 709 00:42:39,530 --> 00:42:44,700 We know that that tour is going to be beautiful and amazing and all the things. 710 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,350 I think the question is, to that point of, is this the 711 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,040 time to do something like that? 712 00:42:52,330 --> 00:42:52,830 Right? 713 00:42:54,250 --> 00:42:56,120 Is this the time to do that? 714 00:42:56,290 --> 00:42:58,090 There could be a whole lot of ways to tour. 715 00:42:58,630 --> 00:43:03,420 There's a whole lot of ways to tour right and and show up right 716 00:43:03,780 --> 00:43:07,255 but We are in a moment right now, 717 00:43:09,365 --> 00:43:10,775 and I ain't getting in nobody's pockets. 718 00:43:11,055 --> 00:43:14,075 If you can, if you can afford it and go, if you can afford it and go. 719 00:43:14,435 --> 00:43:18,825 But if you can't afford it, don't feel bad about not going. 720 00:43:19,545 --> 00:43:19,915 DJ Sir Daniel: Yeah. 721 00:43:20,345 --> 00:43:22,675 Jay Ray: And that's the thing I think we need to say to people is 722 00:43:22,675 --> 00:43:24,545 it's like, it's not a ding on you. 723 00:43:24,565 --> 00:43:29,945 You're not a Failure because you can't go to the, the Chitlin circuit tour, right? 724 00:43:30,175 --> 00:43:33,685 That's not, uh, it's a rough time, right? 725 00:43:33,685 --> 00:43:37,345 It's, it's not an easy moment that we're in right now. 726 00:43:37,345 --> 00:43:39,120 You 727 00:43:39,225 --> 00:43:43,995 DJ Sir Daniel: It doesn't, not being able to attend the concert does not 728 00:43:44,365 --> 00:43:50,775 take away from your, your level of devotion and fanhood to this artist. 729 00:43:51,585 --> 00:43:55,415 Like Jay Ray said, there are choices that have to be made and in this life, 730 00:43:57,515 --> 00:43:59,435 in this life, you gotta make, you know, 731 00:43:59,535 --> 00:44:03,595 Jay Ray: to eat them eggs Oh, 732 00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:06,360 DJ Sir Daniel: a little bit more than, you know, um, 733 00:44:06,725 --> 00:44:09,854 Jay Ray: Hold'em. 734 00:44:09,930 --> 00:44:12,460 DJ Sir Daniel: the Saint Texas, Texas Hold'em. 735 00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:14,600 It might sustain you just a little bit more than that. 736 00:44:14,910 --> 00:44:17,830 But I get it, we're not here to yuck anybody's yum. 737 00:44:17,895 --> 00:44:19,255 Jay Ray: go in and laugh, child. 738 00:44:19,660 --> 00:44:21,660 DJ Sir Daniel: do what you, do what you need to do. 739 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,090 Find your joy, find your peace. 740 00:44:24,610 --> 00:44:28,100 But, please don't go into bankruptcy about it. 741 00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:29,480 Please don't. 742 00:44:30,010 --> 00:44:30,380 Jay Ray: Please 743 00:44:30,710 --> 00:44:31,270 DJ Sir Daniel: Please don't. 744 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,060 We want you to be, be, be smart about what you're doing. 745 00:44:34,610 --> 00:44:35,600 Handle your business. 746 00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:37,840 But yeah, so enjoy that. 747 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,920 But you know, you can always, always go to your favorite streaming service 748 00:44:43,540 --> 00:44:49,140 and you can look up, um, A classic Spike Lee movie by the name of School 749 00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:52,030 Days, and you can watch that for free. 750 00:44:52,310 --> 00:44:55,530 You can watch the Rays sing, I don't wanna be alone 751 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,380 Jay Ray: You know, tonight, 752 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:57,930 yes! 753 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,660 DJ Sir Daniel: You can be entertained in the comfort of your home and celebrate 754 00:45:01,660 --> 00:45:05,870 the 37th anniversary of Spike Lee's School Days right along with us. 755 00:45:06,590 --> 00:45:07,860 37 years, Jay Ray. 756 00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:14,560 Jay Ray: Um, and 37 years, that film. 757 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:22,580 Um, so much of what we love about the culture today was really kind of 758 00:45:22,590 --> 00:45:25,330 birth inside of school days, right? 759 00:45:25,950 --> 00:45:27,060 The in terms. 760 00:45:27,060 --> 00:45:30,990 Yes, Baychella was literally birth from school day. 761 00:45:30,990 --> 00:45:33,090 So school days is in everything. 762 00:45:33,090 --> 00:45:34,240 And not only that. 763 00:45:35,490 --> 00:45:42,150 Um, there are so many prominent performers that came out of that film. 764 00:45:42,450 --> 00:45:46,190 Jasmine guy has often talked about was like, that was a lot of our first movie. 765 00:45:46,190 --> 00:45:51,900 Like, do we had not been in a movie before that we were like stage kids 766 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,730 and all of a sudden we're in a film. 767 00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:55,680 So that movie. 768 00:45:55,860 --> 00:45:57,340 is so groundbreaking. 769 00:45:57,350 --> 00:45:58,560 We talked about it. 770 00:45:58,770 --> 00:46:00,890 Um, during hip hop's 50th anniversary. 771 00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:03,740 Um, we talked about the career of Spike Lee and how important 772 00:46:03,740 --> 00:46:05,080 Spike Lee has been to hip hop. 773 00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:09,250 So definitely go back and check out that, um, that, that show. 774 00:46:11,185 --> 00:46:14,585 DJ Sir Daniel: L. Jackson, that popped up in Kendrick Lamar's, 775 00:46:14,635 --> 00:46:19,465 um, halftime performance, has a wonderful performance in school days. 776 00:46:19,505 --> 00:46:21,595 A lot of your faves, like J. Rae said. 777 00:46:22,170 --> 00:46:27,420 Started off in, um, school days or in a sparkly joint, but also remember Jay 778 00:46:27,530 --> 00:46:31,870 Ray, one of the underlying stories, one of the backstories of school days 779 00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:38,380 was there was a storyline about, um, about the school, uh, what's the term? 780 00:46:39,050 --> 00:46:41,800 Um, because apartheid was a big story 781 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:42,500 Jay Ray: Mm hmm. 782 00:46:42,650 --> 00:46:43,950 DJ Sir Daniel: 87 88. 783 00:46:44,530 --> 00:46:50,360 Um, and so the school was benefiting from corporations that um, supported apartheid. 784 00:46:50,810 --> 00:46:55,480 And Lawrence Fishburne's character divesting 785 00:46:55,660 --> 00:46:56,090 Jay Ray: Divesting. 786 00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:56,800 Mm 787 00:46:57,230 --> 00:47:00,660 DJ Sir Daniel: so that the school could divest from those backers so 788 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:02,610 that they would not support apartheid. 789 00:47:03,070 --> 00:47:05,640 And that's 37 years ago. 790 00:47:05,750 --> 00:47:06,440 Jay Ray: here we are. 791 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,000 DJ Sir Daniel: issues are coming, are being brought up again in the, in, 792 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,370 in, in school days is happening today. 793 00:47:14,370 --> 00:47:15,890 So it's like art. 794 00:47:16,050 --> 00:47:17,730 That's the thing about good art, 795 00:47:18,140 --> 00:47:18,740 Jay Ray: Yes. 796 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:22,650 DJ Sir Daniel: old it gets, it still speaks to whatever's happening right now. 797 00:47:22,850 --> 00:47:24,200 And shout out to visit the chat. 798 00:47:24,350 --> 00:47:29,530 Sam Jackson, um, played one of the Jay Ray Curl brothers at the KFC that 799 00:47:29,530 --> 00:47:32,960 was mad about them educated brothers coming up in their neighborhood 800 00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:34,710 talking all proper and stuff. 801 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:39,200 And he was wearing the Jay Ray Curl cap in, um, school days. 802 00:47:39,955 --> 00:47:46,155 Jay Ray: Samuel L. Jackson is literally My God, he's been in everything 803 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,900 DJ Sir Daniel: a walking history book. 804 00:47:48,005 --> 00:47:48,245 Jay Ray: he is 805 00:47:49,590 --> 00:47:51,220 DJ Sir Daniel: He is a walking history 806 00:47:51,305 --> 00:47:52,845 Jay Ray: now he's been Uncle Sam 807 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:54,760 DJ Sir Daniel: And now he's been Uncle Sam. 808 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,710 And, um, apparently, apparently some people were saying 809 00:47:57,740 --> 00:47:58,880 that you shouldn't call him. 810 00:47:59,690 --> 00:48:01,510 No, he was being Uncle Tom. 811 00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:05,980 He was playing Uncle Tom and then I saw something about we shouldn't use 812 00:48:06,210 --> 00:48:10,320 the term Uncle Tom, we should use the term Sambo when regarding to a black 813 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,880 person that's less than honorable. 814 00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:14,510 That's a whole 815 00:48:14,575 --> 00:48:19,125 Jay Ray: That's a whole nother conversation Lord Jesus, um, but yes 37 816 00:48:19,135 --> 00:48:24,280 years of school days Um, so yeah, go watch school if you want to, if you want to 817 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,510 get a, you know, a little entertainment, go ahead and watch school days. 818 00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:32,110 You know, it's, it's part drama, part musical, you know, all black. 819 00:48:32,490 --> 00:48:33,760 It's Black History Month. 820 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,710 You should just go ahead and watch it. 821 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,390 DJ Sir Daniel: Good or bad hair? 822 00:48:37,390 --> 00:48:38,440 See if I care. 823 00:48:40,850 --> 00:48:46,450 Jay Ray: So, um, Sir Daniel, of course, tomorrow is a day. 824 00:48:46,795 --> 00:48:54,715 Um, it is Valentine's Day tomorrow, Sir Daniel, um, and which is so interesting. 825 00:48:54,725 --> 00:48:55,985 It's been so much going on. 826 00:48:55,985 --> 00:49:01,525 It's crazy that it's Valentine's Day, but one of the things that of course happens 827 00:49:01,525 --> 00:49:05,135 on Valentine's Day is people, and Sir Daniel, you used to have a whole set where 828 00:49:05,135 --> 00:49:08,555 you just did your slow jam set, which was, of course, was mostly full of love 829 00:49:08,555 --> 00:49:10,925 songs, but this brings up a question. 830 00:49:11,445 --> 00:49:12,755 Um, what? 831 00:49:13,255 --> 00:49:16,315 are your favorite, and it don't have to be more than one, but do 832 00:49:16,315 --> 00:49:18,525 you have favorite hip hop love song? 833 00:49:19,350 --> 00:49:20,070 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 834 00:49:20,530 --> 00:49:25,930 Um, I think I'll go, I feel, believe this is the first hip hop 835 00:49:26,025 --> 00:49:30,265 Of course, LL Cool J's I Need Love. 836 00:49:30,285 --> 00:49:30,695 Jay Ray: Mm hmm. 837 00:49:31,525 --> 00:49:36,685 DJ Sir Daniel: Um, right after that for me is, Oh, A Teenage Love 838 00:49:36,845 --> 00:49:38,575 Jay Ray: Teenage Love by Slick Rick is great. 839 00:49:38,795 --> 00:49:40,005 DJ Sir Daniel: Don't hurt me again. 840 00:49:40,015 --> 00:49:40,645 That's hot. 841 00:49:40,765 --> 00:49:41,665 Don't hurt me again. 842 00:49:41,695 --> 00:49:43,945 And um, Bonita Applebaum. 843 00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:48,335 Jay Ray: Bonita Applebaum is a great, great song. 844 00:49:48,335 --> 00:49:49,225 It's so sweet. 845 00:49:49,375 --> 00:49:50,395 Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 846 00:49:50,395 --> 00:49:55,815 So, um, what are favorite, uh, uh, hip hop love songs? 847 00:49:56,165 --> 00:50:02,195 Of course, for me, Silent Treatment by The Roots is absolutely, I think, one of 848 00:50:02,195 --> 00:50:05,645 the most gorgeous, um, slow jams, period. 849 00:50:06,245 --> 00:50:08,855 Um, I think One Love by Houdini. 850 00:50:10,645 --> 00:50:11,355 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes. 851 00:50:11,725 --> 00:50:14,365 Jay Ray: Love by Houdini definitely does a thing. 852 00:50:14,995 --> 00:50:17,275 Um, You only get one. 853 00:50:17,525 --> 00:50:18,315 One love. 854 00:50:18,545 --> 00:50:19,195 One love. 855 00:50:19,435 --> 00:50:21,075 Alright, I'm not gonna do, I'm not gonna do that. 856 00:50:21,485 --> 00:50:23,685 Um, what else? 857 00:50:23,835 --> 00:50:27,645 Uh, Did I pick another Roots song? 858 00:50:28,065 --> 00:50:28,865 I can't pick another. 859 00:50:28,935 --> 00:50:29,305 DJ Sir Daniel: do you think? 860 00:50:29,315 --> 00:50:30,815 What about, um, Common? 861 00:50:31,695 --> 00:50:32,375 Jay Ray: Which one? 862 00:50:32,405 --> 00:50:34,355 Uh, uh, The comment has so many. 863 00:50:34,595 --> 00:50:35,235 But you know what? 864 00:50:35,255 --> 00:50:39,820 If I was gonna pick a common Love song. 865 00:50:40,380 --> 00:50:42,399 I do love Love of My Life with Erykah Badu. 866 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,060 I think that's a great song. 867 00:50:44,670 --> 00:50:49,630 Um, but there's also I'm gonna pick You Got Me, actually. 868 00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:50,750 So, I got two root 869 00:50:51,015 --> 00:50:51,505 DJ Sir Daniel: Dope. 870 00:50:51,515 --> 00:50:51,925 Dope. 871 00:50:51,985 --> 00:50:52,325 Dope. 872 00:50:52,580 --> 00:50:53,560 Jay Ray: I'm gonna pick You Got Me. 873 00:50:53,780 --> 00:50:56,890 There are some We don't give 874 00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:01,190 We don't give rappers enough credit. 875 00:51:01,795 --> 00:51:02,925 DJ Sir Daniel: Yes, I agree. 876 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:05,150 Jay Ray: Oh, the light. 877 00:51:05,180 --> 00:51:05,920 Yes. 878 00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:09,030 Um, the light by, uh, uh, Common. 879 00:51:09,590 --> 00:51:13,110 Um, you consider poor Georgia, wait a minute, this is like, you 880 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:14,380 consider poor Georgia a love song? 881 00:51:16,365 --> 00:51:20,825 DJ Sir Daniel: You know MC light MC light it had quite a few 882 00:51:22,945 --> 00:51:25,685 soliloquies about love gone wrong 883 00:51:25,790 --> 00:51:26,350 Jay Ray: She did 884 00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:27,110 she did, 885 00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:27,620 she did, 886 00:51:27,725 --> 00:51:30,475 DJ Sir Daniel: she was dating crackheads in high school and 887 00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:33,830 Jay Ray: Uh, folks who are using alcohol, alcohol. 888 00:51:33,830 --> 00:51:34,280 Yeah. 889 00:51:34,485 --> 00:51:37,705 DJ Sir Daniel: Drug dealers all of them just had a lot 890 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,580 Jay Ray: sidebar, we talked, wasn't in our last meeting that we talked about 891 00:51:41,580 --> 00:51:45,810 the fact that MC light storytelling is just my, like some of my favorite. 892 00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:49,470 Cappuccino is just one of my favorite stories to hear. 893 00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:50,380 DJ Sir Daniel: amazing. 894 00:51:50,810 --> 00:51:52,030 She's, uh, she's right 895 00:51:52,190 --> 00:51:53,810 Jay Ray: in and I ordered a cup. 896 00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:56,240 Some guy behind the back said, shut up. 897 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:57,440 DJ Sir Daniel: And I did. 898 00:51:57,510 --> 00:51:58,260 Pronto. 899 00:51:58,530 --> 00:51:59,290 Jay Ray: Quick, fast. 900 00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:00,220 DJ Sir Daniel: there with Slick Rick. 901 00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:07,180 Like, she's, her narration is such an important part of rap music. 902 00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:11,300 And shout out to those people that can entertain you and 903 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,560 spin a tale at the same time. 904 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,630 That takes a certain amount of skill. 905 00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,490 So shout out to MC Lyte for that. 906 00:52:17,970 --> 00:52:18,560 Um. 907 00:52:18,615 --> 00:52:21,705 You know, shout out to Sam Georgie and all the and 908 00:52:21,780 --> 00:52:23,210 Jay Ray: Roughneck is a love song. 909 00:52:23,415 --> 00:52:24,165 DJ Sir Daniel: and roughneck. 910 00:52:24,175 --> 00:52:24,855 Yes, indeed 911 00:52:25,390 --> 00:52:26,980 Jay Ray: It's a tacky love song. 912 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,070 And you listen to Roughneck now and I'm like, 913 00:52:29,205 --> 00:52:30,265 DJ Sir Daniel: Got to get a what? 914 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:33,530 Jay Ray: this young man needs other, has other problems. 915 00:52:35,085 --> 00:52:37,505 DJ Sir Daniel: Okay, the last point of this, the last part 916 00:52:37,505 --> 00:52:38,905 of this tangent that we're on. 917 00:52:38,965 --> 00:52:43,915 So, people have caught on to the fact that MC Lyte, um, made a song 918 00:52:43,955 --> 00:52:49,130 about messing around with a 17 year old or a young man that turned About 919 00:52:49,150 --> 00:52:49,560 Jay Ray: Yeah. 920 00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:54,639 Mm hmm. 921 00:52:54,660 --> 00:52:58,000 DJ Sir Daniel: listen back to that But I saw a video somebody one of these young 922 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:03,860 people found it and they were like, uh, Excuse me MC light you were talking about 923 00:53:03,890 --> 00:53:10,135 Essaying somebody that's under 17 But yes, that's, that's a story for another day. 924 00:53:10,295 --> 00:53:11,715 That's a story for another day. 925 00:53:11,775 --> 00:53:12,295 Go ahead. 926 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:14,680 Jay Ray: How Do I Love Thee by Queen Latifah. 927 00:53:15,185 --> 00:53:15,605 DJ Sir Daniel: Dope. 928 00:53:15,865 --> 00:53:16,675 Yes, indeed. 929 00:53:16,795 --> 00:53:19,445 Jay Ray: do I love thee by Queen Latifah, which people do not 930 00:53:19,445 --> 00:53:20,495 give that song enough credit. 931 00:53:20,785 --> 00:53:22,455 You know, it's a hip house joint. 932 00:53:22,735 --> 00:53:24,855 She's just kind of talking over it. 933 00:53:25,525 --> 00:53:27,065 You know, it's very sensual. 934 00:53:27,075 --> 00:53:28,955 She made a video for that song. 935 00:53:29,605 --> 00:53:30,745 DJ Sir Daniel: I love that one as well. 936 00:53:30,775 --> 00:53:32,665 And yes, shout out to Viz again. 937 00:53:32,675 --> 00:53:34,165 Mahogany by Rakim. 938 00:53:34,275 --> 00:53:35,335 Also a dope. 939 00:53:35,835 --> 00:53:36,285 A dope. 940 00:53:36,335 --> 00:53:38,375 Oh, to the opposite sex. 941 00:53:39,105 --> 00:53:41,855 Which a lot of rappers are, do very well about. 942 00:53:41,905 --> 00:53:46,605 So listen, JRE, let's wrap it up real quick, cause I know we gotta let the 943 00:53:46,625 --> 00:53:48,095 people go back to what they were doing, 944 00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:48,720 Jay Ray: Yes. 945 00:53:48,825 --> 00:53:50,655 DJ Sir Daniel: we gotta thank everybody for tuning in. 946 00:53:50,750 --> 00:53:51,800 Jay Ray: Absolutely, y'all. 947 00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:55,060 If you can see our faces, if you can hear our voices, go ahead 948 00:53:55,060 --> 00:53:56,150 and hit that subscribe button. 949 00:53:56,180 --> 00:53:59,680 And if you want to do us a solid, it is absolutely free. 950 00:53:59,950 --> 00:54:02,050 Share the show with your friends, family, colleagues. 951 00:54:02,050 --> 00:54:04,940 If you enjoy Queue Points, chances are they will enjoy it as well. 952 00:54:05,250 --> 00:54:07,490 Visit our website at KUPoints. 953 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:07,930 com. 954 00:54:07,940 --> 00:54:10,660 There you can listen to our old episodes of the show. 955 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,770 Check in with all the other stuff that we have going on, including 956 00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:15,670 checking out our blog at magazine. 957 00:54:15,830 --> 00:54:16,370 Queue Points. 958 00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:16,529 com. 959 00:54:16,730 --> 00:54:20,040 Um, and if you want to support the show, you can check out store. 960 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:20,590 Queue Points. 961 00:54:20,810 --> 00:54:23,480 com and you can get yourself some fresh merged merch. 962 00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:24,910 We appreciate y'all. 963 00:54:24,910 --> 00:54:25,450 We love y'all. 964 00:54:25,885 --> 00:54:28,755 DJ Sir Daniel: We sure do, and what do I always say in this life, you have 965 00:54:28,755 --> 00:54:32,005 a choice, you can either pick up the needle, or you can let the record play. 966 00:54:32,495 --> 00:54:33,704 Peace to the lie! 967 00:54:34,165 --> 00:54:35,685 Respect to the lie, 968 00:54:35,970 --> 00:54:36,350 Jay Ray: Okay. 969 00:54:36,390 --> 00:54:36,600 We. 970 00:54:37,295 --> 00:54:38,835 DJ Sir Daniel: to her lie, this 971 00:54:38,945 --> 00:54:42,355 Jay Ray: We are not leaving until we talk about y'all. 972 00:54:42,465 --> 00:54:43,175 Okay. 973 00:54:43,345 --> 00:54:45,295 Real quick. 974 00:54:45,683 --> 00:54:47,625 DJ Sir Daniel: That girl is a star. 975 00:54:47,625 --> 00:54:48,485 Shout Onijah. 976 00:54:48,635 --> 00:54:51,765 Onijah is back home in these United States. 977 00:54:51,975 --> 00:54:53,005 She's already booked. 978 00:54:53,195 --> 00:54:56,315 already so that's peace to the lie, respect to the 979 00:54:56,315 --> 00:54:58,525 lie, and respect to her lie. 980 00:54:58,835 --> 00:55:00,315 Jay Ray: She's amazing, y'all. 981 00:55:00,325 --> 00:55:03,695 Like, I'm like, that woman is not well, but I love her. 982 00:55:03,725 --> 00:55:06,545 DJ Sir Daniel: She is not well at all but yes indeed. 983 00:55:06,795 --> 00:55:09,815 Thank you for joining us for this episode of Queue Points. 984 00:55:10,175 --> 00:55:12,125 We'll see you on the next go round. 985 00:55:12,455 --> 00:55:13,005 Peace to the 986 00:55:13,045 --> 00:55:13,585 Jay Ray: Peace. 987 00:55:15,625 --> 00:55:17,525 My God, let it go.