Get a little bit of a slow start today.
Speaker BWelcome back to the number one financial literacy podcast in the world.
Speaker BThis is the higher standard Again.
Speaker AWelcome back again.
Speaker BWelcome back again.
Speaker AWe've opened the show three times now.
Speaker BSitting in front of my partner in crime, Christopher Nahibi.
Speaker AAnd sitting across from me is the quarter zip king.
Speaker AThe man, the myth, the legend, the guy who wears boat shoes for fun side Omar, everybody.
Speaker BTrend setting.
Speaker BWe're translating out here.
Speaker BWhy are we translating?
Speaker BWhat's up, Rajeel?
Speaker BWhat's up, 50, aka Ferrari.
Speaker BWell, 55 now.
Speaker AGet.
Speaker ABro's losing way too.
Speaker B£5 a week is a little wild, bro.
Speaker BWait, seriously?
Speaker AYeah, he's just not eating before he gets on the scale.
Speaker BThis is insane.
Speaker AAre you.
Speaker AYou feeling okay?
Speaker BYeah, I feel good.
Speaker BI feel good.
Speaker BWell, I'm gonna feel better after this first form energy drink.
Speaker AAnd this is a good time to.
Speaker BTo mention that this episode is brought to you by Fridays.
Speaker AYeah, that's right.
Speaker AGo to www.join Fridays.com, enter the code higher and you will get a discount.
Speaker AAnd you will help us help ourselves and help you and all that fun stuff.
Speaker AAnd you know what?
Speaker AI microdose GLP once.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI'm on trt.
Speaker AAnd for those of you thinking.
Speaker AWhat?
Speaker AYou don't have any muscles?
Speaker AYeah, it's weird.
Speaker AYeah, I don't.
Speaker AI don't get it either.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker BChris wears really baggy T shirts.
Speaker BHe's actually really jacked.
Speaker BYou can't tell.
Speaker BHe was really humble about it, actually.
Speaker AI used to be.
Speaker AAnd now because I wear the baggy shirts, you can't tell that I'm not anymore.
Speaker BCan't tell.
Speaker AI'm up here, dog.
Speaker AUp here.
Speaker AI'm giving cerebrals.
Speaker BWe're going to get into a whole lot of things in tonight's episode.
Speaker BWe're going to.
Speaker AWe're.
Speaker BWe have to touch on what's going on with Jerome Powell and the Fed.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AOh, the back and forth is so good.
Speaker AMy favorite daytime soap opera right now, just for those of you who want to know, it's watching.
Speaker AJ. Jamie diamond, the president, and Jerome Powell all make comments at the same time.
Speaker ASo good.
Speaker BWe have to get into that.
Speaker BWe have to get into some of the things that the president is calling into action.
Speaker BLike he wants to cap interest rates on credit cards to certain percent.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe wants all cap, no facts.
Speaker AHe wants just to be clear.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BCap and everybody.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut first we're going to start off with this.
Speaker BChris has been doing some deep dives into creating some charts.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd he's done, he's done, he's done.
Speaker BHe's created these charts that we, he's presented on the lives and we're going to get into explain how these are valuable and what these actually mean and why you should be paying attention to them if you want to be a well informed investor.
Speaker AThis is the first I've actually seen them on the, on the bigger screen there.
Speaker ASo I think it's important to, to break the charts down because I think people understand a little bit of the, the why and for those of you who don't follow the lives, which I understand is a lot of people who listen to the show because I can have seen the numbers.
Speaker AI'm lonely on the lives.
Speaker AEverybody.
Speaker AWe try to create some proprietary hedge fund like is kind of what I've been calling it.
Speaker ABut we've been trying to come up with some proprietary algorithms, ways to look at the market that'll help you invest without being super sophisticated.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AA lot of the stuff you see if you were to turn on CNBC are numbers that only make sense to you and register to you as impactful if you've been constantly following it or constantly engaged.
Speaker ASo how do you remove this?
Speaker AI guess background necessity.
Speaker AYou make something very clear, very transparent.
Speaker AThe first chart we have up here is the US Market risk profile chart.
Speaker AAnd I'm fully aware that people listening to the show are listening likely not looking at this.
Speaker ASo that's okay.
Speaker AI'm going to explain to you why this chart is meaningful and why some of the things you look at on a daily basis actually can be a little skewed.
Speaker AThe this chart currently shows that the market's closed.
Speaker AIt shows a Dow Industrial S P, NASDAQ Composite, Russell 2000 and the Invesco QQQ.
Speaker ANow for those who aren't familiar, the Dowager basically follows the industrials and a lot of the business stocks that are out there.
Speaker AThe S P 500 top 500 performing stocks, NASDAQ Composite is the NASDAQ Composite index where you have all of the tech focused trading.
Speaker AYou have the NASDAQ and the NYSE.
Speaker ARussell 2000 is just the upper one.
Speaker AI'm sorry, is the upper industrial.
Speaker AActually you can look up the, the RIL.
Speaker AYou did that.
Speaker ALook up the, the Russell 2000.
Speaker AI always get that one screwed up, so I'm not gonna go there.
Speaker AAnd then you have the QQQ which, the top 100 performers in the, in the NASDAQ.
Speaker AAll that is complex in and of itself and you have to follow these indices every single Time.
Speaker ASo basically what we did is we took ETFs, the DIA for the Dow Jones spy.
Speaker AOh, here you go.
Speaker AThank you.
Speaker AJill.
Speaker ALook up what, what is in the Russell 2000 or what makes up the Russell 2000 index.
Speaker AI always screw, screw that up.
Speaker ASo I just want to make sure I get it right.
Speaker AI had to look it up like 4,000 times.
Speaker ASo basically I put together a proprietary way to look at these, these five different indices vis a vis ETFs.
Speaker AETFs trade with real money, all the derivatives, all the real action, the market comes from their site.
Speaker AIf you can help me out.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThe Russell 2000 is made up of approximately 2000 of the smallest US public companies.
Speaker ASmall cap.
Speaker BYeah, small cap.
Speaker BSelected from the broader Russell 3000 index, which covers about 98% of the entire US market.
Speaker ASo small caps.
Speaker AAll right, there you go.
Speaker ASo the smaller cap companies versus the larger cap companies.
Speaker AAnd, and basically the algorithm here gave me a way to look at the market from a holistic perspective.
Speaker ALooking at the cash coming in, cash coming out and sides, looking at the notes.
Speaker AIt should have my, my full description of this.
Speaker ABut rather than looking at the values of these things, which are really irrelevant to most people, we're going to look at the percentages up or down.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd then we're going to come up with, based on a chart, whether you're in a liquidation market, a risk off market, a defensive market, a mixed day, a tech led rally, a growth run or a broad rally where the market's just growing.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYou'll be able to look at this and look growth, growth run, broad rally, those are green, those are positive.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ATech led, still kind of positive, but only the tech's really leading the way.
Speaker AI think Mag7 is having a great day.
Speaker AThen liquidation, bad, risk off bad.
Speaker ASo we'll know by looking at this chart really quick if the market, everybody out there is feeling like we're in risk on or risk off economy.
Speaker BRight, exactly.
Speaker BAnd for, for most other places, because like Chris said, this is proprietary.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYou're not going to get this anywhere else.
Speaker BSo there was a lot that went into this.
Speaker BFor most other, you know, platforms that are maybe showcasing some of this, you're either getting a red, a red mark, like a red chart or a green chart letting you know things are good, things are bad, whatever.
Speaker BWhat this is really showing you is where the capital is flowing to, right?
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker BAnd where from.
Speaker BSo it lets you know where is there more risk and where's where maybe there might not Be as much risk.
Speaker AWell, where the money's going.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker ARisk on, risk off, and where the money's going.
Speaker AAnd we did have, we did inject.
Speaker ANormally I probably wouldn't inject tech into this, but because tech's been such a huge part of the growth story the last decade, I think felt that having a mix day, tech led growth run, differentiation was more important.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AGo to the next chart while he's doing that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BBecause what we really want to hyperfocus on.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BIs now that we've officially launched the live shows, Right.
Speaker BThat Chris is on, that Chris is hosting for us, we want to get out in front of the headlines.
Speaker BWe don't, we don't want the headlines to really move anything.
Speaker BWe want to see where.
Speaker BWhere are people more defensive and where are people more confident.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo if you can take a look at a chart like this, you can actually get in front of the headlines and don't let the headlines move you.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I also think that part of our show, as we go through today's episode, you're going to find this.
Speaker AThere's a big delta between headlines and the reason for the headline versus what we're actually seeing and feeling in the economy.
Speaker AYou're going to find that in today's show in particular, there are reasons that a lot of headlines are being made that aren't necessarily true and impacting the market in the way you would probably think of because they're, they're, they're there for ulterior motives.
Speaker BMm.
Speaker AWe're gonna prove it out.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABefore we do that, however, let's go to the next chart here, which is one of my personal favorites.
Speaker AThis is the Synthetic Volatility Index.
Speaker AA lot of people have looked at the VIX as the fear gauge.
Speaker ATalked a lot about it on the shows and prior shows.
Speaker AAnd the VIX just shows you how much fear is in the market.
Speaker AAnd traditionally speaking, below a 20 score is generally considered to be a stable Market.
Speaker AAbove a 20 is usually generally considered to be a riskier market and more fear in the market.
Speaker BBut let's just maybe, maybe help people understand why how real dollars are actually changing the vix.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo it's actually people putting their money where their mouth is.
Speaker BIt's not just, you know, a survey that you might get from.
Speaker BFrom somewhere.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BFrom a, you know, you know, one of the feds.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BThough this is actually people putting options or puts.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThe VIX is really traded off of the spy, I believe, which is an ETF for the S&P 500.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo the Vix is supposed to be a proxy of all the real money trading activity that's going on to the day, which includes derivatives.
Speaker AIt includes all the money FL in the markets.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI felt that was kind of a narrow gap of, of the markets.
Speaker AAnd we decided to come up with something that I think more hedge funds used.
Speaker AWhat we're doing is, is we're looking at realized volatility.
Speaker AWe're looking at intraday range stress gap risk, cross market volatility.
Speaker BDon't worry, ths hedge fund sounds sexy.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, it's probably going to be real thing.
Speaker ASo we came up with this what I'm calling a synthetic volatility score.
Speaker ABut long story short, we broke this down into what we all experienced in high school.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIf you get a 90% or above, you got an A.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AIn this case, you're in a calm market.
Speaker AIf you're in 60 to 80, because I like to give everybody a passing score, you're in a normal market.
Speaker AYou're a healthy, normal kid.
Speaker AYeah, right.
Speaker AIt's not, it's not a D.C. and.
Speaker BA B. Oh, we're gentle parents.
Speaker BThis isn't what I grew up with, by the way.
Speaker BI just want to make that very clear.
Speaker BI got punished for the 90, 40 to 60 range.
Speaker AYou're, you're in a tense territory at home.
Speaker BKids progress reports all day.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANot good.
Speaker AIf you're in the 20 to 40, you're an unstable little bastard.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd if you're in zero to 20 panic, that kid's gonna kill somebody.
Speaker BSo have you gone like far enough to test this and to see like, like previous dates on when, when they should have, you know, signaled that it was unstable or panic?
Speaker AI have been beta, beta testing the math on this for about two weeks.
Speaker AI've been beta testing the chart with the math in it for about a week and a half.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I've done three shows.
Speaker AThanks for watching.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhere I've actually seen this in play.
Speaker ASo it does work.
Speaker AIt's quite, quite good.
Speaker AAnd people are going, okay, Chris, what the hell?
Speaker AThe idea is we're going to put together a composite index which allows us to tell you, okay, today is a tech rally or tech led rally in a calm market or a normal market.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd because you're going to have that risk perspective and volatility perspective, you're going to feel more comfortable in any investment decisions you make in any space that day.
Speaker ABecause.
Speaker ACause you're gonna know what the general trading activity is telling you for the day.
Speaker AWe're gonna combine that with things like the liquidity in the market from the Fed by looking at the reverse repo line.
Speaker AWe're gonna look at some of the QE that's going on in the market.
Speaker AWe'll put together a risk on, risk off, based on Fed liquidity in the system.
Speaker ASo, you know, at any point in time there, right.
Speaker AAnd this is my time to pause and go, okay, we just nerded out hard, everybody.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AAnd I know everyone's going, like what?
Speaker ACome on, Chris, just talk about boobies and stuff like normal.
Speaker AYou know what I mean?
Speaker ALike, what is this?
Speaker ANo, let me explain.
Speaker AWhat we're going to do is we're going to weaponize a lot of what we talked about on the show to give everybody a composite view, the same composite view that index funds typically have.
Speaker AWhenever you walk in their door and you look at their internal operating systems, they have a snapshot of the market that day.
Speaker AYeah, we're just building that same snapshot out piece by piece and then beta testing it live in the live streams.
Speaker AAll the reason for you guys to check those out.
Speaker AAnd we'll bring them on the show and talk a little bit more about what we're seeing in the markets with a holistic view.
Speaker AAnd we'll also include things like macro events and stuff like that.
Speaker ABut this is all coming through our server, our own private database.
Speaker AIt's pretty cool.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWhy this is actually really important for people to follow.
Speaker BAnd if you, let's say on the show, we want to try our absolute best to teach people, right?
Speaker BTo teach people certain things.
Speaker BAnd we're going to start releasing the evergreen content that is more educational.
Speaker BBut this will also be something that you can come to every day or at least every live, right.
Speaker BAnd tune in, check in to see, you know what, what are the THS guys saying?
Speaker BYou know, where's the market right now?
Speaker BIs it.
Speaker BIs there a false strength right now?
Speaker BIs the strength that's being carried in The S&P 500, is it really only being carried by a handful of names or is it.
Speaker BIs this signaling something else?
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AWell, I also think too now is.
Speaker AIs probably more appropriate time than, than many of the times in the economy's history.
Speaker AWe've got a lot of volatility and today's show in particular is really going to talk about some of the things that, that have tested this and we're gonna get into some of the headlines and the reasons, the motives, the responses and throughout all of this I want you guys to keep one frame perspective using just the two charts we pulled up.
Speaker AThroughout all of this, we have been at the lowest point in a mixed day where there's no real consensus on where the things are going.
Speaker AWe've seen it largely a tech led rally and we've seen a little tiny bit of a growth rally at the very end of the chart in the total growth space.
Speaker AOn the other side of things, the volatility index, we have been above 80 in the calm territory, the entirety of all the things we're going to talk about today.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ASo there hasn't been a volatility injected in the market because of these things, which is crazy when you think about it.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd we're still rallying forward even though it's tech led or growth, but it's still tech led predominantly.
Speaker ASo it's S P500, the NASDAQ, the is still rallying more and the.
Speaker BWhich is interesting, right, because I guess historically speaking, when we've had like these record highs or close to record highs, but at the same time we see like gold because gold is also used as like a fear gauge too.
Speaker BWhen this starts to go up, right.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BThere's a lot of, is a lot of uncertainty with what's around the corner.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo the fact that this isn't signaling, I mean, it's comforting.
Speaker BRight, because it makes you realize, okay, nothing is imminent.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BRight around the corner, but it's still something that we should all be prepared for.
Speaker AYep, I think that's right.
Speaker ABefore we get into the first article tonight, I have to apologize.
Speaker AI'm a little rattled.
Speaker AI was sitting in the studio earlier today and it was probably like, I don't know, 9am and I'm sitting, you know, at the, the, the desk that Brazil's at right now and I'm doing some of my usual work and my dad walks in.
Speaker AYeah, my dad is a five foot five Iranian guy who looks like Danny DeVito but a little.
Speaker AUsed to be a little more rotund.
Speaker AHe's lost a lot of weight recently.
Speaker AMy dad, he's got a big gray beard now, which he didn't always have, and he's wearing a cowboy hat.
Speaker AWe live in Southern California.
Speaker AYeah, Okay.
Speaker BI can appreciate a good cowboy hat, but I mean, I mean, it kind of catches you off guard a little bit.
Speaker AThere were so many questions.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AFirst of all, just right out the gate, where did you get that?
Speaker BWhere do you go to buy it?
Speaker AYou're not in Texas.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo honestly, Rajeel where would you go, honestly right now if you had to buy a cowboy hat?
Speaker APlease enlighten me.
Speaker AWhere would you go?
Speaker BProbably boot barn.
Speaker AThat's a pretty good poll.
Speaker BI honestly don't even know what boot barn is.
Speaker AOne right on the corner.
Speaker BOkay, what about Bass Pro Shops?
Speaker BIs that.
Speaker AI don't think Bass Pro Shops would be a cowboy hat.
Speaker BNo, they don't got them there.
Speaker ANo, I think you got like those weird.
Speaker BI'm just thinking of.
Speaker BDude, perfect.
Speaker BThat's.
Speaker BThat's all I can think about.
Speaker ADude, perfect is your only.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou're from California.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo he had the hat on and it was like one of the ones that, that are like.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt was all black and it had like the really narrow sides, like tilted up.
Speaker ASo it was like an attitudy.
Speaker ASassy cowboy hat.
Speaker BSassy cowboy hat is wild.
Speaker BBut what's the purpose?
Speaker BWhat's the purpose behind it?
Speaker BThere has to.
Speaker BThat has to serve a purpose.
Speaker AI think it's just a different style, personally.
Speaker AI'm sure there's a history behind the style, but it's just a different style.
Speaker BNo, when people, when people fold their.
Speaker BLike yours, you fold it because you were trying to block their walk in the shade.
Speaker BIt's not a.
Speaker BIt serves a purpose.
Speaker AI only folded it because my.
Speaker AI had a flat build hat on because my wife washed his hat because she said it was dirty.
Speaker AAnd then it got all soft.
Speaker ASo then I had to.
Speaker AHad to reform it.
Speaker BI see.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AYeah, but yeah, so he was wearing a black suit, a red tie, a white shirt and a black cowboy hat.
Speaker AWalking around the halls here with a.
Speaker BBig gray beard, gangster.
Speaker AIt was very strange.
Speaker AIt was off putting.
Speaker ARuined my entire day.
Speaker BWhat are you just.
Speaker AAnd then to make matters worse, and then this is where the emotion comes in.
Speaker AI'm sitting at my desk, it's like now, noon.
Speaker AI haven't eaten and I. I just got off a live stream.
Speaker AMy dad sits down and goes, I'm gonna apply for a gun permit.
Speaker BApply for a gun permit.
Speaker AI said, I'm sorry, you're gonna do what now?
Speaker AYeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker AI'm gonna get a gun.
Speaker BExplains the cowboy hat.
Speaker AIs it.
Speaker AAnd so of course I'm looking at him going like, is.
Speaker AIs there something you want to tell me?
Speaker ALike, are we.
Speaker AAre we okay?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHave you been watching Landman?
Speaker BHave you guys had discussions?
Speaker BOh, Landman.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ANone of this ever come up before?
Speaker ANone of it.
Speaker AHe never mentioned a cowboy hat growing up.
Speaker BWas he ever like pro guns against guns.
Speaker BLike, never.
Speaker ANever had a conversation.
Speaker BNever.
Speaker BZero.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AI mean, we.
Speaker AI was born in Oklahoma.
Speaker AHe was in Oklahoma.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASo, I mean, there's a proximity to the culture there, but never in my adult life has this been a thing.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASo when I. I asked him about the hat, he goes, I like it.
Speaker AI'm like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker ABut, I mean, that isn't.
Speaker ALike, you started wearing T shirts, right?
Speaker BYou know, now you got to one up him.
Speaker BNow you got to go get it.
Speaker BYou got to go get a cowboy hat and get it embroidered.
Speaker AI think we're getting a horse.
Speaker BA horse.
Speaker AHey, dad, my new.
Speaker AMy new car's got one horsepower.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI was joking around before the show.
Speaker BLike, I. I'd be the guy that goes to lids and says, got any cowboy hats?
Speaker BI need seven, five eights, dog.
Speaker AYou're gonna walk out with a leather baseball cap?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right, let's get into the first article, y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker BImagine how insulting that would be, though, getting a cowboy hat with the LA Dodgers, like, embroidered on.
Speaker BJust, like, guarantee you I'm mixing cultures.
Speaker BI'm mixing cultures now.
Speaker AOh, there it is.
Speaker BHey, no.
Speaker BHey, Google this.
Speaker BLet me know if that's out there.
Speaker APlus, stick horse with.
Speaker BLet me know if that's out there.
Speaker AIt's got multiple sounds.
Speaker BMultiple sounds.
Speaker BWait.
Speaker BGo Google cowboy hat with the L with the LA on it.
Speaker BSee if it comes up.
Speaker BOh, yeah, they got those.
Speaker AThey got those, bro.
Speaker BI'm gonna have to do that for the show.
Speaker AYou're not gonna do that so hard.
Speaker AYou will not get to the front door.
Speaker BI'm gonna do that.
Speaker BAnd it's got the rope, too.
Speaker BFirst order.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BLet's go.
Speaker ALos Angeles Dodgers, solid team color, cowboy hat.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo listeners like only women by that, right?
Speaker BListen to the show.
Speaker BActually, told.
Speaker BTold me to tell you that you need to get new.
Speaker BA new hat.
Speaker AHi.
Speaker ADave Matsuchi.
Speaker AI was gonna.
Speaker AI was gonna out him.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BEvery time he said, you need championship hats.
Speaker AEvery time I talk to him, he brings up the fact that my hat is lacking a.
Speaker AA timeliness.
Speaker AYeah, Championship.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker APatch.
Speaker AShout out.
Speaker BDavid.
Speaker AYeah, let's get into the first article here, cnbc.
Speaker AA major development in Trump's Fed feud is set to happen next week in the Supreme Court.
Speaker AAnd I think this has got way more importance than people understand.
Speaker BWe gotta get into this.
Speaker BI mean, when people tune into our show, I think they actually tune in because they want to know what we think is going on with the Fed.
Speaker AWell, it's about to Go weird.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's what's going on with the Fed.
Speaker AOkay, so let's set the stage before we get into this article here.
Speaker AJerome Pal is the chairman of the.
Speaker AThe Fed.
Speaker AHe's a chair.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AHe's a Fed secretary.
Speaker AAnd he.
Speaker AHe is coming off his term in May.
Speaker ASo he will no longer be the head of the Fed in May because the term will be up, but he will still be on the FOMC committee.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo if you're, let's just say, hypothetically, a president who didn't like the current economic policy of the FOMC and you wanted to, you know, instigate pretty significant change, what would you do?
Speaker BRight, right.
Speaker AYou would say, I'll put people on that are probably a little more aggressive as it relates to rate cuts who echo my thoughts.
Speaker BAnd I think with everything that's going on.
Speaker BWell, hold on.
Speaker BLet's.
Speaker BLet's.
Speaker BLet's backtrack a little bit in case everyone doesn't remember exactly what's going on here.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ALisa Cook.
Speaker BNo, no, no.
Speaker BThe Federal Reserve started renovating their building in 2022.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AThis is just Lisa Cook, though.
Speaker AThis isn't even that part yet.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BYou want to do this part first?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker BAnd I'm getting excited for the soap opera.
Speaker AI can tell.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYoung, ambitious, super eager.
Speaker AFirst time.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASecond time.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ASecond time.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI like to think of other things while I'm doing it, just to keep the excitement down.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ASo, yeah, just.
Speaker AJust.
Speaker BWhat's your go to?
Speaker ATry that.
Speaker BWhat's your go to.
Speaker AUsually every once in a while, sports, because I'm disinterested.
Speaker AIt's very unexciting.
Speaker BI wonder what's going on with LeBron right now.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThinking about LeBron's airline.
Speaker AIt's very unattractive.
Speaker AI guess they focus all the time, kills the excitement.
Speaker AEveryone saw Rejeel.
Speaker AAll right, so for those of you who don't remember about Lisa Cook specifically, the executive branch decided to say that Lisa Cook had committed mortgage fraud on a second home that she called a primary residence.
Speaker BRight, Right.
Speaker AAnd because she called it a primary residence and not a second home and are not an investment property, whatever the hell.
Speaker BShe got a lower interest rate.
Speaker AShe got a lower interest rate.
Speaker ASo they're accusing her mortgage fraud trying to remove her from the FOMC as a result of this, quote, fraudulent act.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd I guess.
Speaker BLook, is it wrong?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BDoes it happen every single day?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AAll the time.
Speaker BThousands of times, probably.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AIn fact, I think I'm gonna be honest, like there, there is a good argument to be made that the banks got screwed.
Speaker ABut other than the banks getting screwed, which I think most Americans, I mean.
Speaker BI mean screwed is like, I don't.
Speaker AKnow, it's a kind of a victim is crime kind of.
Speaker BThey could have made a couple more thousand dollars, like maybe.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ABe honest.
Speaker AThe bank sold it just to somebody else.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AYou know, and she didn't default.
Speaker ASo the extra risk they would be paying, paid for in the interest rate on a non defaulting loan really isn't there.
Speaker AAnd I gotta be honest.
Speaker BAnd she probably drove more business that way.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AI'm just saying if you're gonna give someone the benefit of the doubt on a rate, you're probably gonna give someone on the fomc, you know, that's probably a little bit less of a default risk.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAgain, neither here nor there.
Speaker AThey're now in the Supreme Court debating whether or not Trump can replace her.
Speaker ASo the outcome of this Supreme Court decision, which has been very slow to respond oddly, is going to really tell whether or not he can come in, I. E. Trump and say, hey Jerome, you committed fraud.
Speaker AYou committed fraud in a grand jury testimony about Insight, if you want to remind people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo what the FOMC and the Fed did was they were renovating their building back in 2022.
Speaker AMind you, this building was built like 1910 or something.
Speaker B1910.
Speaker BAnd I know this is going to.
Speaker ASound crazy and it is a multibillion dollar renovation.
Speaker BIt's a multi one point and originally estimated to have a 1.9 billion DOL renovation costs.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BThree years later, 2005, that estimate got bumped up as all construction projects do.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd it went up to 2.5 billion.
Speaker AOkay, I'm.
Speaker AI'm just going to pause right there.
Speaker AOkay, let's just.
Speaker BDoes it sound like I'm defending aside?
Speaker AIt does sound like you're defending.
Speaker AI'm, I'm just going to put.
Speaker AOkay, look, if something goes from 1.9 billion to 2, that's $100 million, bro.
Speaker BNo, no, no, no, no.
Speaker BI get it, I get it.
Speaker AYou're talking.
Speaker BOkay, I get it.
Speaker BThere is a little thing called inflation.
Speaker BNo, no material costs.
Speaker BOkay, wait, hold on, hold on.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI get where you're going with this and I'm just saying.
Speaker ABut let's just.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker A1.9 divided by 2.6, was it 2.5?
Speaker A2.5.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker A2.5.
Speaker A76%.
Speaker AOkay, so that's a 24% increase.
Speaker BIt is a 24% increase.
Speaker BI mean, he, He.
Speaker BI'm not going to take a side.
Speaker AA lot of inflation in there.
Speaker ABut.
Speaker ABut I'll play the devil's advocate, okay.
Speaker AProbably bad, bad calls from the devil.
Speaker AI'll play the other side's advocate here.
Speaker AYou're tearing down part of the White House.
Speaker AOh, to build.
Speaker AWas it a ballroom?
Speaker BYeah, a ballroom.
Speaker BFor how much?
Speaker BIt was like 300 million.
Speaker BThat's a lot of money, bro.
Speaker BI mean, a historical part of the building, I might add.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI feel like that really, though, is like.
Speaker AI feel like, if I'm being honest.
Speaker BI feel like 400 million.
Speaker A400 million.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BThat's pretty close, man.
Speaker A100 million off.
Speaker AWhatever.
Speaker BYeah, that's the creatine kicking in.
Speaker AYeah, there you go.
Speaker AIs that.
Speaker AYou're on creatine now?
Speaker BOh, yeah, I'm on all the creatine.
Speaker BI'm at like.
Speaker BI'm on, like, 10 milligrams a day.
Speaker AYou don't really need that much.
Speaker BNo, I think you do.
Speaker BThe science is out now.
Speaker BYou need more than five.
Speaker AYou need a gram per pound of body weight.
Speaker BYeah, no, it's more than more than five.
Speaker BSo it's like.
Speaker BIt's somewhere around, like, seven to ten is a sweet spot.
Speaker AAnd Rajille, this is a classic example why not everybody should listen to Andrew Huberman.
Speaker BI think mine was from Dr. Rhonda Patrick.
Speaker AThe science is out now, and it says you need more.
Speaker ASo I'm going to take 10.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BBut hold on.
Speaker BLet's remember another.
Speaker BAnother key point to this is it.
Speaker AThey're really building a secret base under the White House.
Speaker ASpace was justified.
Speaker BOh, the data center under the White House?
Speaker BI didn't say that.
Speaker BIs that what you're saying?
Speaker AI'm saying there's conspiracy theories out there.
Speaker BI mean, there are some theories out there.
Speaker BWe can.
Speaker BConspiratorial.
Speaker BIt could be for aliens that.
Speaker BYeah, could be.
Speaker AFor sure.
Speaker ADude, can we just be honest?
Speaker BDid you see that episode with Rogan and Tom Segura where they.
Speaker BThey brought this up and they're like.
Speaker BThey're literally found, like, mummified aliens that are.
Speaker BIt's, like, out, and it's open as well documented, like nobody's talking about it.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AWell, the problem is they found, quote, mummified aliens before that were really made up of, like, different animal bones.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo, like, that one instance of that happening has really, like, screwed up.
Speaker AEverybody's.
Speaker AEveryone's like, ah, they're fake.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHere's the sad part.
Speaker BHow are we not talking about it?
Speaker AI'll be honest.
Speaker AThis.
Speaker AThis could absolutely be the truth.
Speaker AThis is our truth.
Speaker ANow, you can live it or not, right?
Speaker AYou could literally have aliens land, okay, in your backyard, right?
Speaker AGet out of the ship, come up to you, be like, what up, my guy?
Speaker AYeah, we here in peace.
Speaker BAnd you could.
Speaker BYou could post the ring footage, camera footage.
Speaker AYou could post that.
Speaker BAnd guess what?
Speaker ANot a damn person going to believe you lying.
Speaker ANo one's.
Speaker ANo one.
Speaker BYeah, that's AI.
Speaker ANo one is going to believe you.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AI'll be honest.
Speaker AYou showed me that.
Speaker AAnd you came to me with, like, 100% conviction.
Speaker ABe like side dog.
Speaker AStop playing with Sora.
Speaker AI know Higgs Field's dope, but this ain't the way.
Speaker BThis ain't the way.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker BYou.
Speaker AWe've now reached the point where aliens, even if they do exist, unless it's like a mass event.
Speaker ANah, it didn't happen.
Speaker BYeah, I got more stuff.
Speaker BI got better stuff to worry about.
Speaker BMy household credit card debts getting out of control.
Speaker AYeah, mine, too, man.
Speaker AIt's at a point.
Speaker BIt's getting too much.
Speaker BOkay, so.
Speaker BBut back to this point.
Speaker BOkay, so he.
Speaker BHe updates the renovation cost to 2.5 billion.
Speaker BIs it right?
Speaker BDamn.
Speaker BBillion.
Speaker BIt hurts saying it, but the other component about this that we do have to keep in mind, all right, is.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BI know he works for the Federal Reserve.
Speaker BThere's nothing federal about the Federal Reserve.
Speaker BThey are not part of the government.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThey are independent.
Speaker ASupposed to be.
Speaker BSupposed to be.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd they're supposed to be independent so that there isn't any influence by a political party one way or the other.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BSo that's the other component of this.
Speaker BAnd then when this current administration took office in January of 2025, what happens?
Speaker BHe came in immediately, started demanding to lower interest rates.
Speaker BAnd when JP from the hood, Jerome Powell, chose to not follow that rhetoric and not agree to do it, he got a little testy.
Speaker BHe's like, I'm coming for you.
Speaker BWhat does he call him?
Speaker BToo late.
Speaker BToo late.
Speaker BJerome.
Speaker AHe's got too many nicknames, man.
Speaker BBro, He's.
Speaker AHe's nicknaming everybody Sleepy Joe.
Speaker BYeah, he's got.
Speaker BHe's got nicknames.
Speaker BHe had one from Nancy.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BBro, I was watching what he called Nancy.
Speaker AI can't remember.
Speaker BCrooked Hillary was one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, bro.
Speaker AI was watching him give a speech the other day at, like, just some random Michigan economic event.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd I ended the live Stream to get on.
Speaker AAnd bro, he's taking shot after shot after shot at Joe Biden.
Speaker AI'm like, bro, it's gone, it's over.
Speaker ALike, he's dead already.
Speaker ALike, I'm pretty sure they seven.
Speaker AI mean, like, I don't know where he's at.
Speaker AYeah, but he ain't like, I mean, bro, I'm just like, God.
Speaker ALike, bro, you're kicking him like, yeah, let it go.
Speaker ASo this is, this is the part of the show where I've got to explain all of this.
Speaker ASeems just looking from the outside, looking in all of it.
Speaker AI'm right, Jerome.
Speaker BToo late.
Speaker APowell.
Speaker BThis is, this is from DJT has done it again.
Speaker BHe is too late and actually too angry, too stupid and too political.
Speaker AYou gotta capitalize on that.
Speaker BI mean, I know, I know.
Speaker BHow many times have we flagged the show already to have the job of Fed chair?
Speaker BHe is costing our country trillions of dollars.
Speaker BI mean, he's not personally costing the country.
Speaker BThere are many other voting members that are also costing the country.
Speaker ADog.
Speaker AYou appointed him, right?
Speaker AThat's your hire.
Speaker BYeah, you appointed him actually.
Speaker BRight, exactly.
Speaker ANow I guess, look, bro capitalized total loser.
Speaker ADamn, bro, that's cold blooded.
Speaker ASo let's get.
Speaker ALet me finish my point.
Speaker BTotal loser is wild.
Speaker ASo bad.
Speaker AAll right, so the midterms are coming up, okay?
Speaker AAnd right now the Republicans control the House, the Senate and the executive branch.
Speaker AYou've got to throw stuff up.
Speaker AWe got a virtue signal a little bit to see what happens.
Speaker AAnd let me explain to you unfortunately how this works now and this sucks, okay?
Speaker AWe're all victims of this.
Speaker AI am 100 at fault here for doing the exact same thing.
Speaker ASo I'm not sitting here telling you that I'm different.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AAll right, here's what happens.
Speaker AAnd Trump, love him or hate him as a master at this, he's going to throw out all the things you think he's posting this stuff, the true social and X.
Speaker AAnd he's not scanning through these social platforms.
Speaker AHe's 100% scanning.
Speaker AHis account is too late, Joe.
Speaker AOr too late Jerome at X.
Speaker ASo he's.
Speaker AHe's looking through.
Speaker AOr Darth Powell.
Speaker AThat's his.
Speaker ASo he's going through.
Speaker AHe's looking at these things.
Speaker AAnd he knows that he's got to appeal to the American populace in order to keep his party in the office they're in.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AA lot of people supported him to win the presidency, so he's got to make sure they're supported as well so he can accomplish his goals, and he.
Speaker BHas to control the narrative and begin pointing fingers.
Speaker BWhat you're experiencing and what you're going to be experiencing is not based on.
Speaker BIt's not a reflection of my work, it's somebody else.
Speaker ASo what you do politically is you throw things out that you know are common conversation points on social media.
Speaker BLike what?
Speaker ALong before he talked about this stuff, people were talking about, how do we solve the affordability crisis.
Speaker AOh, I know, a 50 year mortgage.
Speaker ASo then he throws it out and then he watches the narrative.
Speaker AWell, that narrative fizzled out because most people, most Americans, more Americans than not, more voters than not, said, I'm not gonna pay more interest for the rest of my life.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BAnd there was a.
Speaker BThere was plenty of content going around exposing why that made zero sense.
Speaker AAnd then there was an institutional comment where everyone on the line was saying, hey, institutional buyers, now they're the problem.
Speaker ASo what does he say?
Speaker AHe says, okay, I'm gonna ban institutional buyers from being able to buy real estate because people live there, not corporations.
Speaker BAnd then a quick Google search proved that out to be that they only made up of 2 to 3% of the entire market.
Speaker ABut I will say there is still a pretty healthy divide there.
Speaker ANow, let's be clear, it's unclear whether or not that's even legal to be done vis a vis executive order.
Speaker AThere's an argument that he's going to present a lot of this to Davos when he goes there to present the World Economic Forum coming up, I think next week.
Speaker AAnd in doing so, an executive order might be part of that conversation.
Speaker BBut there were some, a lot of corporations.
Speaker BThere's definitely some PE firms that took a hit.
Speaker AYeah, we're going to get into some of those too.
Speaker AHome builders as well.
Speaker ABut the largest PE firm that owns residential real estate, and I'm saying residential real estate because I'm including multifamily apartment complexes, is Blackstone.
Speaker ABlackstone's been a net seller for the last 10 years.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThey have sold more properties than they've bought into the market.
Speaker ASo they're not the issue for the supply.
Speaker BOkay, there you go.
Speaker AYou could argue that, you know, maybe they've hindered prices, but here's what I'll say is, yeah, he was right in the statement that corporations don't live in the properties, but they rent them.
Speaker AThey're not sitting vacant.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker ASo you've got more rental stock.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThe homebuilders, a lot of them will actually rent their stock out and not just release it entirely to the Market.
Speaker AWell, if they don't rent their stock out because they can no longer own homes, then they're not going to build as many homes.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AHaving less rentals in the property means rent goes up.
Speaker AHaving less supply in the market means housing prices go up.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AThis ain't a solution, kids.
Speaker BYeah, the builders really learned their lesson, you know, back from 08.
Speaker AGreat financial crisis, right?
Speaker BThey learned their lesson like, okay, no, what we're gonna do now, because I mean, there's really what, there's three big key players, right?
Speaker ALennar, Toll Brothers.
Speaker AAnd Dr. Horton.
Speaker BAnd Dr. Horton, right.
Speaker BSo they're the really, the, the big, big players that actually can move enough units to where it can make a shift and make a dent, right?
Speaker BSo they're going to be like, all right, we're going to control all of us, and they're all keeping tabs on each other and they're going to control how much product goes into the market, right?
Speaker BAnd we'll just, we'll create our own little mini market, right?
Speaker BBecause they took some pretty big hits back in 08, some crazy price cuts just because they had to.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker BBecause they need to, you know, get some of their capital back.
Speaker AYeah, well, again, they manage their capital a lot better.
Speaker AThey're not over leveraged.
Speaker ABefore.
Speaker ABefore it was simple like you leverage, leverage, leverage, leverage, leverage.
Speaker AThe more leverage you have, the more you can build, the more money you're gonna make.
Speaker AAnd then you just pay back the leverage over time.
Speaker ABut when that merry go round stopped, they were left with all the leverage and the inability to pay back those lines, and it wound up hurting them a whole lot.
Speaker ASo they just don't have lines.
Speaker AAnd quite the leverage they once did before.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo it's a very different aspect.
Speaker ALet's get into the rest of the drone pal stuff.
Speaker AI have a whole housing segment later on because some of the housing information came out today.
Speaker AAnd then I want to break down a very misleading headline that came out today about mortgage refinances.
Speaker AThere was a 40% boom in mortgage refinances in the, in December.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd, and after Trump started making the comments, and I got to tell you, that statement, if you didn't catch it, was very deceiving.
Speaker AAnd I'm gonna explain why.
Speaker BOkay, okay, okay.
Speaker ABut go ahead and let's finish off the drone pal.
Speaker AGo to the next article here.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker ASo we know the Supreme Court's gonna rule.
Speaker AAt least Cook, Lisa Cook is not as impactful for Lisa Cook, because look, you have a Myron, there Adding Lisa Cook to its one thing, but if you can add somebody to replace Lisa Cook, who's also aggressive like Myron.
Speaker BBecause she could self select, right?
Speaker BIf she could self select to not want to deal with this anymore.
Speaker BWhat really, this is, is.
Speaker BThis is.
Speaker BI'm.
Speaker BI'm sending a signal out.
Speaker BWhat I'm showing you is this.
Speaker BOkay, let's just say drone pals out in a couple months anyways.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BWhat this is what?
Speaker AOnly as the Fed secretary.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BOnly as the Fed secretary.
Speaker BWhat this is really doing in my mind is, hey, I know I'm going to hand select this next person, but don't think you're above this.
Speaker BI will come for you if you don't play ball.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI will drag you through this and you have a full term to deal with me.
Speaker BSo whoever decides to take that nod and take that seat, best believe there's been a handshake.
Speaker BDeal, bro.
Speaker BCome on.
Speaker AWell, I mean, if you're going to work with me, you're going to work with me.
Speaker BYou know what I mean?
Speaker AYeah, I get it.
Speaker AThe independence of the Fed is an interesting thing.
Speaker AWe should probably do an episode in the future about how the Fed came to be in the first place.
Speaker AIt's actually a really.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BAnd the timing of it all.
Speaker AYeah, the timing of it all is very interesting.
Speaker AIt goes all the way back to Titanic.
Speaker AAnd let's just say as much as we've taken these things to be, I guess the rule of law, it wasn't always that way.
Speaker AAnd there's some strong opposition to the Fed being the Fed.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker BYou think, you think.
Speaker BYou, you, you're.
Speaker BYou're raised and you're taught to think that these agencies and departments are all put in place to help protect us.
Speaker BReally?
Speaker BNo, man, it's.
Speaker BIt's really to protect the system.
Speaker AI'll give you a great example.
Speaker BIt's to make sure.
Speaker AFood Pyramid.
Speaker AGreat one.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AFull stop.
Speaker BGreat.
Speaker AYou know those carbs side.
Speaker BYeah, Right.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AFood Pyramid was completely manipulated to support the grain industry.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd it's all modified.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike.
Speaker BAnd there's an argument, there's an argument to be made that even, even your HR department at whatever corporation that you.
Speaker AWork for, they don't protect you.
Speaker BThey're not.
Speaker BThey.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BIt's presented to you like we're here for you, right?
Speaker BNo, they're there to protect the company.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ALet me tell you right now, right out the gate.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ALike this or not.
Speaker AAll right?
Speaker AIf you feel the need to go to HR and vet out an issue.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AIt ain't going your way long term.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI'm just.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker BBut they serve a great purpose for the company to.
Speaker BTo grow and scale.
Speaker BLike, you need.
Speaker BYou need that, right?
Speaker BYou need somebody looking out for the company, right?
Speaker AYeah, but they're.
Speaker AThey're a fiduciary for the company.
Speaker ASame thing with the board of directors, right?
Speaker AThe board of directors job is look out for the shareholder.
Speaker AYou are an employee, right?
Speaker AYou think going to them, they're like, oh, tell me more, Billy.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AThey don't care about you.
Speaker AThey care about Tommy, the shareholder.
Speaker AHe owns shares.
Speaker AYou just work here, dog.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BIt's true.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThey're there to extract value.
Speaker BExtract, yeah.
Speaker AHands on extract.
Speaker BSo I literally had this conversation with my son Adam last night.
Speaker AAbout shareholders and companies.
Speaker BNo, no, no.
Speaker BJust value extracting.
Speaker BExtracting value, right?
Speaker BI'm trying to.
Speaker BI'm trying to, like, have him look at big picture.
Speaker BHe asked me how much Bronnie James is getting paid.
Speaker AOh, it's millions, right?
Speaker BYeah, millions, right?
Speaker BHe's like, that was a terrible decision, right?
Speaker BI was like, really?
Speaker BYou think it was a terrible decision?
Speaker BHe's like, yeah.
Speaker BI'm like, why?
Speaker BHe's like, look, he can't even.
Speaker BShe's like.
Speaker BBecause he sees it very linear.
Speaker BLike he can't even score in the game, dad.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BWhat does it say?
Speaker BShow here.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BFour year, 7.9 million dollar rookie contract with the Lakers signed in 2024.
Speaker BWhat I have to tell him is this.
Speaker BWhy don't you Google up how much the Lakers have made in Bronnie James jersey sales?
Speaker BThey extracted the value.
Speaker BThey knew what they were doing.
Speaker BI think he's made over 50 million in Jersey sales.
Speaker ASo just to make sure that we're on the same page here, I wanted to still this down a little bit.
Speaker AYour nine year old is a nine.
Speaker AHe's nine, right, bro.
Speaker ALook at that.
Speaker BExceeding 500, 000 units, generating 50 million in revenue.
Speaker BWorth it.
Speaker ASo your son is nine, right?
Speaker BNine, yeah.
Speaker ASo your son, a nine year old, can recognize.
Speaker ACan recognize the disproportionate treatment that I have been arguing with you about for a great period of time.
Speaker BNo, no, he wasn't talking about treatment.
Speaker ASo much so that you had to reference tertiary irrelevant data.
Speaker AWhich.
Speaker BIrrelevant data.
Speaker AHold on.
Speaker BHe made the company money.
Speaker BMillions of dollars.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker B50 million.
Speaker BYou heard him.
Speaker BSay it again.
Speaker BSay with your chest next time.
Speaker A50 million.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker B50 million.
Speaker ACongratulations, Rajill.
Speaker AI Tell you, actually talking to Mike.
Speaker AAll right, look, I'll.
Speaker AI'll give you the pass on that, but I would say the Lakers were not that astute on the jersey situation.
Speaker AThat's just an anecdotal benefit they incurred by chance.
Speaker BThere's no way they.
Speaker BThere's.
Speaker AYou think anybody was like, oh my God, we got to get him because his jersey sales are gonna be $50 million.
Speaker BI'm pretty sure.
Speaker BYeah, he had a pretty large.
Speaker AHe's a gen Alpha following.
Speaker AYeah, he's a gen alpha.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe's up next.
Speaker AAbsolutely.
Speaker BHe's killing in the G league anyways.
Speaker AI gotta be honest.
Speaker BI digress.
Speaker AYeah, you do digress.
Speaker BHold on, hold on.
Speaker BWe're onto something here.
Speaker BOh, so we're on to it.
Speaker BWhat are we doing?
Speaker BThe most sold rookie NBA jersey was from Bronnie James.
Speaker AAgain, like, what do you want me to say?
Speaker BI want you to say thank you, Saeed, for enlightening me.
Speaker BThat's what I want you to say.
Speaker BYou're welcome.
Speaker ANobody knew that was gonna happen when he got in the league.
Speaker BIt happened though.
Speaker ADoesn't mean that his salary is justified.
Speaker BYou know what it means?
Speaker BIt means that he was a good investment.
Speaker BThat's what it means.
Speaker BYou can't deny it.
Speaker BWas it a good investment or not?
Speaker BIt was a good investment.
Speaker BBut I digress.
Speaker AYes, you do.
Speaker AI support your 9 year old's logic.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AHe's a smart kid.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThis doesn't make any sense.
Speaker ASo you're telling me if my jersey sells a whole lot, I can make the NBA too?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThat's less the morals you're teaching.
Speaker AIt's not about your talent level, son.
Speaker AIt's not about your talent marketability.
Speaker BBut it's also about who your dad is.
Speaker BThat I mean.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOh, he's got that goal.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BNepotism is a real thing.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AIn the real world, unfortunately.
Speaker AYeah, that's the real problem there.
Speaker ALet's go to the next article.
Speaker AJill, the next article is about the fomc.
Speaker AAnd now is where the comment color commentary really gets into effect.
Speaker AWe have an article here.
Speaker AI think it's on Jamie Diamond.
Speaker AThe Fox one is.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker BNext.
Speaker BThere it is.
Speaker BYes, sir.
Speaker AJamie Dimon Warren's Federal Reserve subpoena.
Speaker ANot a good idea.
Speaker AThis kicked off a little bit of what I like to call cheeky conversation between some titans.
Speaker AJP Morgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon said Tuesday that just department grand jury subpoenas issued to the Federal Reserve risk undermining the Central bank's independence and could ultimately push inflation expectations even higher.
Speaker AIronically, not in this article, but still worth noting.
Speaker AJP Morgan Chase revised their estimates for Fed rate cuts this year to have no Fed rate cuts this year in 2026 and have one Fed rate increase in 2027, which I thought was weird.
Speaker BThey revised it.
Speaker AThey revised it.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker BMeanwhile, I think we have a meeting next week, right?
Speaker AWe do.
Speaker ASo we're going to cover that live on the show because that's what we do here, kids.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWe got the lives.
Speaker AAnd thank you for all three of you who've tuned in and watched those.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThis is a direct quote from the article.
Speaker AWhile I don't agree with everything that the Fed has done, I do have an enormous respect for Jay Powell.
Speaker ADidn't call him Jerome, by the way, because they homies like that.
Speaker AThe man diamond said during a call with reporters after the company announced its fourth quarter earnings report.
Speaker AAccording to Yahoo Finance.
Speaker AHe went on.
Speaker AEveryone we know believes in Fed independence.
Speaker AAnything that chips away at that is probably not a good idea, in my view.
Speaker AIt will have the reverse consequences.
Speaker AIt will probably raise inflation expectations.
Speaker ADiamond's remarks followed a video statement Sunday from Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, who said the Justice Department served the central bank with grand jury subpoenas.
Speaker AAnd I gotta be honest, that was rough.
Speaker AHe came out on Sunday.
Speaker AI was driving back to Disneyland, you know, we were playing Pokemon Go all day long for Jill.
Speaker AGotta catch them all.
Speaker BAlways, always, gotta catch them.
Speaker AGame, game.
Speaker AAnd my wife and I were driving back and then I get a text message from.
Speaker AFrom some homies.
Speaker AIt's Federal Reserve, you know, Dang, dang.
Speaker AThey're like, yo, you gotta see this.
Speaker AAnd I'm like, is this AI?
Speaker AFirst thing I thought, of course.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThen I realized it was posted on the official channels.
Speaker AI'm like, oh, my God, it's real.
Speaker BYou know what that looked like to me, man?
Speaker BIt looked like he said, I don't care what my attorneys or the.
Speaker BAny attorneys say for me how I should handle this.
Speaker BI'm gonna do this.
Speaker BI'm gonna do this my way.
Speaker ATwo minutes.
Speaker ASuccinct.
Speaker AHe did, like, a lot of like.
Speaker AHe looks like.
Speaker AHe's like, let me see what happened.
Speaker AI mean, it was.
Speaker AIt was.
Speaker AIt was stoic.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd he doesn't.
Speaker BHonestly, if you've seen any of the postgame press conferences, it's not like he's the.
Speaker BHe's not acting like that looked real.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ADid we play this on the show last week?
Speaker BNo, we did not.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker BYou played it on the live.
Speaker AOh, yeah.
Speaker AGo to.
Speaker AIf you go to X and go to the Federal Reserve's account, you can find it.
Speaker AIt's a two minute video, Rejeel.
Speaker AAnd let's pull it up and put it here.
Speaker AJust make sure to move the level up on the orange bar whenever we play it so the audio comes through.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI thank God he's back there because, you know your boy can't see orange.
Speaker AYeah, I do.
Speaker ASo ironically, while he's doing that, I was working on these charts, right?
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe risk index, everything else.
Speaker BYou thought of me.
Speaker BYou're like, poor.
Speaker AI did.
Speaker AI was like, damn, bro, he can't appreciate this.
Speaker AHe doesn' like.
Speaker ALike that I'm doing all this work.
Speaker BAnd he can't even appreciate what you.
Speaker AI put the numbers in.
Speaker AYeah, because it were just the colors, the gradient, color spectrum.
Speaker AI was work.
Speaker AAt first, it was just a spectrum, right.
Speaker AIt was literally red, orange, yellow, green.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWell, dude, It's.
Speaker BIt's like 8 to 10% of the male population.
Speaker AAnd then I'm like, damn, site can't see this.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAll right, give me.
Speaker ABack it up a little bit.
Speaker AGive me the audio.
Speaker AFrom the very beginning.
Speaker BYou heard what he said?
Speaker BHe said back it up.
Speaker AGood evening.
Speaker COn Friday, the Department of justice served the Federal Reserve with grand jury subpoenas threatening a criminal indictment related to my testimony before the Senate Banking Committee last June.
Speaker CThat testimony concerned, in part, a multi year project to renovate historic Federal Reserve office buildings.
Speaker CI have deep respect for the rule of law and for accountability in our democracy.
Speaker CNo one, certainly not the chair of the Federal Reserve, is above the law.
Speaker CBut this unprecedented action should be seen in the broader context of the Administration's threats and ongoing pressure.
Speaker CThis new threat is not about my testimony last June or about the renovation of the Federal Reserve buildings.
Speaker CIt is not about Congress's oversight role.
Speaker CThe Fed, through testimony and other public disclosures, made every effort to keep Congress informed about the renovation project.
Speaker CThose are pretexts.
Speaker CThe threat of criminal charges is a consequence of the Federal Reserve setting interest rates based on our best assessment of what will serve the public, rather than following the preferences of the President.
Speaker CThis is about whether the Fed will be able to continue to set interest rates based on evidence and economic conditions, or whether instead monetary policy will be directed by political pressure or intimidation.
Speaker CI have served at the Federal Reserve under four administrations, Republicans and Democrats alike.
Speaker CIn every case, I have carried out my duties without political fear or favor, focused solely on our mandate of price stability and maximum Employment, public service sometimes requires standing firm in the face of threats.
Speaker CI will continue to do the job the Senate confirmed me to do with integrity and a commitment to serving the American people.
Speaker CThank you.
Speaker AWow.
Speaker ALast time I saw a speech like that is when Eazy left NWA Just.
Speaker AI mean, look at me.
Speaker AI'm the bed chair until May 2026.
Speaker BHonestly, he's.
Speaker BThat made him like, ten times more likable.
Speaker AIt did.
Speaker AHe seemed uncomfortable.
Speaker AThe swallowing was very audible.
Speaker AI mean, he was.
Speaker AYeah, he was choking that back a little bit.
Speaker AYou know.
Speaker AAlso, shout out to Fridays for the ad at the top of the Fox News here.
Speaker ADon't click on it if you're watching the ads and click the ads.
Speaker AYou got to go join Fridays.
Speaker AClick Use higher.
Speaker BYeah, higher is the promo code to use.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker ABut Jerome Powell, you know, he's feeling some type of way.
Speaker AAnd of course, I would be remiss to say that the President didn't respond to all these things.
Speaker BLook, it's.
Speaker BIt's extremely, extremely rare for a Fed chair to be investigated for, you know, some type of criminal investigation.
Speaker AIt is not extremely rare for the President and the Fed chair to have contention.
Speaker BContention, Right.
Speaker BNo, obviously that has happened.
Speaker BThey're gonna.
Speaker AMany, many times in the past.
Speaker BThey're going to be at odds and they know it directly impacts, like, okay, especially if they're in their first term, whether they're going to get reelected or not.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd look, it really affects the, the budget and the, you know, total.
Speaker BOur total deficit.
Speaker BBut it's extremely rare for a sitting Fed chair to be invested, you know, have a criminal investigation go against him.
Speaker BI'll just leave it at that.
Speaker AYeah, I mean, I get that, and I think that's probably a rough set of circumstances, but keep in mind the President also had one while he was in the president's seat.
Speaker ASo, again, not advocating one way or the other.
Speaker AThis from Bloomberg Law.
Speaker APresident Donald Trump dismissed Jamie Dimon's criticism over the Justice Department's probe into the Federal reserve, saying that JPMorgan Chase Co chief executive officer was, quote, wrong to suggest that he was undermining the independence of the central bank.
Speaker AAnother quote.
Speaker AI think it's fine what I'm doing, Trump said, and we have a bad Fed person.
Speaker ANot mincing words there.
Speaker AHe goes on.
Speaker AThere's more.
Speaker AOh, wait.
Speaker AEarlier Tuesday, diamond expressed concern about the investigation of the Fed chair, Jerome Powell, over the cost of the central bank's headquarters renovation and his subsequent congressional testimony about the project.
Speaker AAgain, quoting again.
Speaker AYeah, Everyone we know believes in Fed independence, Diamond said.
Speaker AAnd anything that chips away at that is probably not a great idea.
Speaker AAnd in my view, we will have the reverse consequences.
Speaker AAs I noted earlier, it'll raise inflation expectations and probably increase rates over time.
Speaker AAsked about the remarks, Trump said, I think he's wrong.
Speaker ATrump said earlier Tuesday that he would press ahead with plans to announce Powell's replacement within the next few weeks.
Speaker ADespite the backlash to the probe, which has drawn criticism from Republican lawmakers, including a threat by Senator Thom Tillis, a retiring North Carolina Republican and swing vote on the Senate Banking Committee, Tillis has said that he would block new nominations to the Fed until the matter is resolved.
Speaker AInteresting.
Speaker ASo now you're not going to be able to nominate anybody new to the Fed until all of this gets worked out, which delays things even further.
Speaker ANow this you would think would cause volatility, but not according to the synthetic volatility index and not according to the market.
Speaker ASeems like most people are listening to this.
Speaker AGoing like this is just rhetoric.
Speaker AUntil something actually meaningfully happens, it doesn't matter for my paycheck.
Speaker AAnd then of course, your boy Trump wasn't done.
Speaker AHe went on to say.
Speaker ATrump also defended his proposal to cap credit card interest rates at 10% for a year, which will likely require congressional legislation.
Speaker ABanks have warned the move could restrict access to credit and undermine popular rewards programs, basically suggesting the fact that if they have to take additional credit losses or make less money, they're going to give less perks.
Speaker BAnd of course point system just going to go to crap.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker AYou're going to get like 1/2 of 1 mile for every thousand dollars you spend.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AI think that people are, that are paying 28% interest should be protected, Trump said.
Speaker AWe're talking about for a one year period.
Speaker ATrump added that he did not think it was right for Jamie Dimon or anybody else to, to charge customers high interest rates on credit cards.
Speaker BI got, I got some thoughts on this too.
Speaker AAll right, do tell.
Speaker BCalling for interest rate cap is like me calling for world peace.
Speaker BI'm calling for it.
Speaker BCome on, guys.
Speaker AI feel peaceful.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BGetting it across the finish line is going to be a little bit more difficult.
Speaker BGetting over, you know, 60 some odd votes to, to get that thing passed.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BProbably not going to happen.
Speaker BFrom all of the articles that I've read and in the things that I've seen online, this has been the number one most lobby thing against by, by banks since Dodd Frank.
Speaker BYep, they are, dude.
Speaker BThis is going to cut right into the corporate profits.
Speaker BThey're never Going to let this happen?
Speaker ANope.
Speaker BSo I mean, in an ideal world.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BDo I agree with it A hundred percent?
Speaker BI think, you know, charging people 20 some odd percent on their credit card industry because it's, I think it's predatory.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BWe've talked about this before.
Speaker BLike there's not a lot of due diligence or, or any underwriting going literally state your income, it's stated income.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BTo get started off with the credit card and.
Speaker BYeah, credit, yeah, yeah, yeah, they check your credit.
Speaker BBut like a lot of people don't know how to manage their debts like that.
Speaker BAnd it's just another way for people to get trapped.
Speaker ABut you know the crazy part of all the things that have been said, of all the things that happened, this is the one that moved.
Speaker ACredit card companies, Capital One, Visa, MasterCard and American Express all got kicked in the ding ding on the day, down several percentage points.
Speaker AYeah, they should because everyone is worried that those.
Speaker ANow you're not talking about banks, you're talking about the credit card companies.
Speaker ASolely banks were largely.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI mean there's just too much money that the banks are making to ever let this go.
Speaker AI mean, multiple streams of income, baby.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI mean, we're talking only one part of that.
Speaker BWe're talking billions, man.
Speaker BYeah, billions of dollars a year.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BAnd they're going to make sure that they do whatever lobbying because like they're handcuffed and they're held hostage to their shareholders too.
Speaker ABut again, this is one of those narratives.
Speaker AI'm thinking that this is just a way to appeal to the masses ahead of midterm elections.
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ASo let's throw it out and see if the populist vote rallies behind the concept.
Speaker ALet's watch the socials and see how emotionally charged this argument gets.
Speaker AAnd if it gets argument, you know, the arguments get sizable enough.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AThen we know that we can run further down the path with this and win voters.
Speaker BWin voters and never actually get anything done and get it across the finish line.
Speaker AThat's what this is about.
Speaker BBut that is what this is about.
Speaker BBut also, and watch what this is.
Speaker BWatch where this is going to end.
Speaker BYou might, hopefully we're still around by then and you can come back and be like, oh, Saeed and Chris, you guys are right.
Speaker BAnd Rajille, you were right.
Speaker BHopefully right years down the road after, you know this, this administration's over with and the next administration comes and eventually, if it's ever a Dem in the seat, guess what they're gonna do.
Speaker BThey're gonna cite this same stuff and, and hope to bring over people from the, bring over people from the other party and be like, look, your old guy was even running on this.
Speaker BWe're running on it, too.
Speaker BThis is something you can get behind.
Speaker AYou think anyone's going to call him Orangey Trump?
Speaker BWe need somebody to, to, to come out with a, a fire nickname for him.
Speaker AI mean, nothing sticks.
Speaker AAnybody who runs next is going to win.
Speaker AIf they're going to be the opposite side, they're going to have to, to play the game his way from a media perspective.
Speaker AYeah, let's give them existing home sales and the end of 2025.
Speaker AThey end 2025 with a strong beat as prices ease further.
Speaker AThis data came out today.
Speaker AWe're recording this on Wednesday, the 14th of January, 2020, 2026.
Speaker AI really struggle with 2026 still.
Speaker B2026, scary for me, man.
Speaker BApproaching 40.
Speaker AShut up.
Speaker ASales of previously owned homes in December rose to a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 4.35 million units, a 5.1% increase from November, according to the national association of Realtors.
Speaker AThat was higher than analyst expectations for a gain of 2%.
Speaker ASales were 1.4% higher than a year earlier.
Speaker AFor the full year, there were 4 million 600 or 4.06 million existing home sales, unchanged from 2024.
Speaker AI can go on here, but effectively, here's the, the distilled version of this.
Speaker A2025 was another tough year for home buyers, marked by record high home prices, historically low home sales, said Lawrence Yoon, chief economist for the national association of Realtors, in a release.
Speaker AHowever, in the fourth quarter, conditions began improving with lower mortgage rates and slower home price growth.
Speaker AListen to that statement from, from them, Lawrence Yoon, you son of a bitch.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BHe's not a fan of the program.
Speaker AI'm not a fan of him either.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AHis solution is always keep home prices up, lower rates.
Speaker AOkay, listen to his statement again.
Speaker AHowever, in the fourth quarter, this is a quote.
Speaker AConditions began improving with lower mortgage rates and slower home price growth.
Speaker AHey, Yoon.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AOkay, Lawrence.
Speaker AHow about home price declines?
Speaker AMatter of fact, Jill, do me a favor.
Speaker ALet's go to the next chart there.
Speaker AThis from the Federal Reserve bank of St. Louis.
Speaker AThis is $410,800 median home price as of Q. I think it's Q2, 2025, not Q3.
Speaker ABut is it Q3?
Speaker AHold on a second.
Speaker BIt says Q2.
Speaker AIt's Q2.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AQ2.
Speaker A21.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AI don't want to be the guy.
Speaker AYeah, that price is going down.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAs it should, though.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAs it should.
Speaker AIt came.
Speaker AIt's coming off a high from 2020.
Speaker AComing back down now it's coming back down.
Speaker AVery slow.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut the average home price is starting to decline.
Speaker AYou are seeing this in, in submarkets across the country.
Speaker AAnd the average figure, this 410,800, is starting to come down.
Speaker ALawrence is trying to spin it to his base by saying slower home growth because you can point to certain regions, but the average price ain't that, chief.
Speaker AAnd this is where misinformation gets put in the markets.
Speaker APeople get confused.
Speaker BOkay, okay, let's get into it.
Speaker AThis is not an increasing home value.
Speaker AThis is.
Speaker AThis is a flat, if not declining market.
Speaker ASo him to suggest, oh, it's slow.
Speaker ABut this happened because rates went down, America.
Speaker ANo, it didn't, dude.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAgain, we've covered this in previous shows and this pisses me off to no end.
Speaker A40% of homes in this country are owned in cash.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BFree and clear.
Speaker A60% of homes in this country that have a mortgage on them, the overwhelming majority of them have a mortgage rate below 5%.
Speaker BIf mortgage rates drop, they like over like, like 60%.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AAnd mortgage rates drop from in the low 6% to the high mid 5%.
Speaker AThere's still no motivation for people to refinance, you ass.
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker BYou're right.
Speaker BAnd here's the thing, right?
Speaker BI know there was that rhetoric going around last week, and you're the perfect person to talk about how the administration said they're going to force Freddie and Fanny's hand to, you know, buy 200 billion more in mortgage backed securities.
Speaker BRight, okay, they said that.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BThey were already planning to do that.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BBut apparently that narrative and that headline really pushed the market and it actually drove interest rates down a little bit.
Speaker BOkay, it did.
Speaker BWhat I think everyone needs to understand is if rates were to come down, let's just say another 25 basis points.
Speaker BSo if you're, you know, the current rate is 6% and it comes down to, you know, 5.75%, that really only increases your buying power by 3%.
Speaker AOkay, so let's.
Speaker BIt doesn't help.
Speaker BIt does not help a whole lot.
Speaker A3% of the home you could buy.
Speaker A3% more home you could buy, yeah, 3% more home.
Speaker BAnd then if it comes down, if it comes down 50, the average home.
Speaker ABuyer, that's $12,000 more home, let's just be clear, $12,000 more home than most Americans can buy as a result of this change.
Speaker BAnd there's an argument to be made that can actually be more damaging and actually, you know, there could be more bidding again and ultimately making prices go up.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BSo it could actually work in the reverse.
Speaker AOh, it will work in reverse.
Speaker AAnd let me.
Speaker ALet me just.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AClear.
Speaker AGod, I get so angry.
Speaker AI'm trying.
Speaker AI'm trying my heart to the cusp.
Speaker ABut this kind of stuff pisses me off to knowing.
Speaker ABecause it's taking advantage of Americans.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker AIt's a complete lie.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AFreddie and Fannie were already ramping up, buying mortgage backs, their limits like $225 billion.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AThey were already on that path anyway.
Speaker AOnce they hit their limit, they can't buy more without Congressional approval.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AOr the other.
Speaker ASome other approval process that was already happening.
Speaker AThe max impact, assuming they were to buy all the way up to their cap, is somewhere between 25 to 35 basis points on effective rates downward.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker AThat's the most benefits you're going to get.
Speaker ATo your point.
Speaker A$12,000 for most Americans.
Speaker AIt might sound like a good headline, but that's like me calling Bronnie, saying, hey, Bronnie.
Speaker BBack to Bronnie.
Speaker AYeah, hey, Bronnie.
Speaker BPoor Bronnie.
Speaker AI'm going to help you sell more jerseys.
Speaker AHe's gonna be like, what?
Speaker BI'll need you, bro.
Speaker BI got this.
Speaker AI'm doing this already.
Speaker BI got.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BThis is actually what I do.
Speaker AThis is what.
Speaker AThis is what the President said that he did with Fannie and Freddie.
Speaker AHey, dog, I'm gonna help you buy more.
Speaker AMore securities.
Speaker AAnd second, you know what?
Speaker AGo do this.
Speaker AYou go do that.
Speaker AYou need to do this.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker AThey're like, hey, we are.
Speaker BHey, everybody.
Speaker BThs.
Speaker BWe're.
Speaker BWe're gonna be.
Speaker BWe're gonna be hosting a live on Monday.
Speaker BI'm gonna make sure that we host a live on Monday.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AThank you for that.
Speaker BYou're already doing it.
Speaker AYes, Saeed, but.
Speaker ABut here's the problem.
Speaker AOkay?
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AAnd again, 25 to 35 basis points, improvement on rate.
Speaker AThink that through.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou've now done the work of the next Fed cut for the Fed.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AThe Fed knows it.
Speaker AYou made press releases about it.
Speaker AYou put out statements about it.
Speaker AWell, guess what?
Speaker AThey're probably not going to cut rates now because they're going to, I don't know, be data dependent.
Speaker BI'm glad you pulled that.
Speaker BI'm glad you brought that up because right before the show, I looked it up.
Speaker BThe Fed watch through Chicago Mercantile Exchange as an currently right now, 95% chance that there will not be a rate cut next week.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYeah, that's right.
Speaker BBy the time people hear this episode, it'll be this week.
Speaker AAnd I can't wait to see Jerome Powell walk out during the press conference smoking a blunt, bro.
Speaker BIf he doesn't, he needs to come out with some shades.
Speaker AYeah, he's coming out hard.
Speaker AHe's gonna be like, look, let me.
Speaker BTell y' all some.
Speaker AI want to come out full Jimmy Butler.
Speaker BYou know?
Speaker BWhy does he do.
Speaker BWhy does it.
Speaker AThe bangs.
Speaker BYou know why he does that, right?
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker BYou know why he does it?
Speaker AHates it.
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker BNo, you know, okay, so he does that only on media day, so.
Speaker BMedia days before the season starts.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BAnd he does that right, because he knows those photos get syndicated out for the rest of the year on all the nationally televised games.
Speaker BSo it's like.
Speaker BFor the rest of the year, it's.
Speaker AIt's like.
Speaker BIt's him poking fun at it.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AHe just pulled it up.
Speaker A2022 dreadlocks.
Speaker A2023.
Speaker ALike Fallout Boy Bangs.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah, exactly.
Speaker A2024 looks kind of normal.
Speaker BI mean.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AStud.
Speaker AAll of them.
Speaker BAll of them studs.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AHe looks like the.
Speaker AThe photo quality is much better in 2024.
Speaker AThey have, like, a camera upgrade or something.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker AOh, he looked real today.
Speaker BTake a photo.
Speaker BThat's true.
Speaker BBut I still can't get over that they use Wilson now, not Spalding.
Speaker AYeah, that is strange.
Speaker AI like.
Speaker AI like Wilson balls better.
Speaker BYou do?
Speaker AI've got a preference.
Speaker AMy balls.
Speaker AI like the stickier, squishier balls as opposed to the harder, more natural leather balls.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAuthentic.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou don't like that?
Speaker AI grew up being able to grip and palm the balls well.
Speaker ASo the old school harder balls were always a little bit harder to break in, if you will, or break in.
Speaker AI like to break in.
Speaker AI see constant movement with the balls, so a lot of experience here.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AVery sticky.
Speaker AEvery once, I'll spit on my hands and clean them up and then grab the balls because it's stickier.
Speaker BYou spit on it.
Speaker BSo I always would wipe the sweat off my chest and then.
Speaker BAnd then touch the ball.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI don't have the chest hair that you do, so I watched myself into that one.
Speaker AIt's not gritty.
Speaker BSandpaper is crazy.
Speaker AYeah, it's not that gritty.
Speaker AYou know, I had to, you know, whatever.
Speaker BOh, yeah.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker AYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BSo no, he would do that just to poke fun.
Speaker BAnd they got to Use those photos for the rest of the year.
Speaker AHashtag science rates.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo you're not getting rate cut, kids.
Speaker ALet's go on to CNBC via Instagram.
Speaker AMortgage refinancing surges.
Speaker AThis is the article that I referenced earlier.
Speaker BDude, no.
Speaker BNo rate cut for the rest of the year, though.
Speaker BThat kind of hurts.
Speaker AJ.P. morgan Chase.
Speaker BThat hurt to think about.
Speaker BI was like, man, I was kind of banking on at least one.
Speaker AI can know how this.
Speaker AI know it's happened.
Speaker AYou want.
Speaker AThis has happened.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAll right, so I'll be Jamie Dimon, ready.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AHey, y'.
Speaker AAll.
Speaker AY' all hear that Trump response to me?
Speaker BWhat do you say?
Speaker AHe said that I should mind my own business a little bit.
Speaker AHe.
Speaker BYou gonna let him talk to you like that?
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AHold on a second.
Speaker AHey, David, Kelly, do me a favor real quick, okay?
Speaker ACut the rate outlook, and then, you know what?
Speaker AIncrease it in 27.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BAre you really gonna do that?
Speaker AYeah, I already called Jerome.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's done.
Speaker BI got him in my back pocket.
Speaker ACan you imagine?
Speaker AJerome Powell does a press conference with Jamie Dimon standing behind him.
Speaker AThat would be legendary.
Speaker AHe's just the Kanye in the back.
Speaker AYeah, Jamie.
Speaker BYeah, what he said.
Speaker AJust sipping some cognac, like.
Speaker BYeah, just his hype, man.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnyway, so mortgage demand spiked, Mark.
Speaker AMortgage demand spiked markedly high.
Speaker AI hate that word.
Speaker AMarkedly high.
Speaker AYeah, markedly in general last week as consumers returned from the holidays to find overall lower interest rates and a sharp rate drop.
Speaker AFriday on the news from the White House.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AYeah, mortgage rates.
Speaker AMortgage refinance demand ramped up because we ended the holiday period where nobody refinances anything.
Speaker BRight, Exactly.
Speaker AIt wasn't because rates dropped, you morons.
Speaker AIt's because the holiday ended and people wanted to get in the transactions.
Speaker AAnd you've had the first company.
Speaker ACome on.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, and there's.
Speaker BI mean, there's definitely a lot of people that, you know, had, you know, rates in the sevens with the seven handle and maybe even high sixes.
Speaker ABut the only people who are going to refinance in that space, people got a.
Speaker AProperties in the last couple years, Right.
Speaker BAnd they could really use the bump.
Speaker BBut here's the other thing, right?
Speaker BIf it spiked and you got.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BAnd you got.
Speaker BAnd you got to think you're only going to refinance if you really feel like rates bottomed out.
Speaker AYeah, well, I mean, not really.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BBecause you're not going to refinance again.
Speaker BIt's not going to make sense for you.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BI mean, if you Factor in all the costs associated.
Speaker AWell, again, so I'm gonna read the direct quote here because it's funny.
Speaker APresident Donald Trump posted on social media late Thursday that in an effort to lower mortgage rates, he would order the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to buy $200 billion in mortgage backed bonds.
Speaker AJust on that news, the average rate of the 30 year sunk.
Speaker ASunk, that's the word.
Speaker ABriefly sunk briefly below 6% on Friday morning before bouncing slightly higher again.
Speaker ASo I'm sorry, it sunk briefly below 6%.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AA full percentage point higher than the average American rate right now.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AAnd you saw a 40% spike in mortgage rates last week from the previous week, which was the week of Christmas and New Year's.
Speaker BYeah, right, exactly.
Speaker BI mean, just help me understand.
Speaker AYeah, maybe, maybe if we saw who's reporting it, it might help out who.
Speaker AOh, I'm sorry, It came from the Mortgage News Daily.
Speaker AOh, that's convenient.
Speaker BYeah, 40% spike from the previous week of a holiday.
Speaker AThis just in.
Speaker AYeah, the Higher Standard is the best podcast in the world according to the Higher Standard.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BYeah, there you go.
Speaker BHey listen, top 1% globally.
Speaker BDon't like, don't poke fun.
Speaker BThat's a real thing.
Speaker AWell, let's look at John Burns or John Brooks via X. Lennar is now selling homes for than 2018 prices.
Speaker AOh, that's convenient.
Speaker ALennar is now selling homes below these prices net of incentives.
Speaker AImagine being the person who bought in 2022.
Speaker AIf you're that person, what do you do?
Speaker BThat's a good question.
Speaker BWhat would you do?
Speaker AHere you go.
Speaker ANow I should be clear.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AThere has been a lot of inflation from 2018, sorry, 2019, whatever, till till now.
Speaker ABut certainly you're 27% below the peak of home prices net.
Speaker ASo what home builders will do is they will post that we sold a price a home for $500,000, but they won't disclose publicly that they gave them incentives for.
Speaker AAnd I'm just using an example for a hundred thousand dollars, making their net sale price really $400,000.
Speaker BThere you go.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWhat are some of the incentives that they give?
Speaker AOh, you could get a rate buy down on your mortgage, you could get higher upgrades on the space.
Speaker AI mean there's tons of things they can do to throw money at you.
Speaker ARight, right, right.
Speaker ATo incentivize you to buy.
Speaker AYeah, that's why it's such an ambiguous term is that can be done in many different ways and usually you see a combination of both ways.
Speaker BNow, right Maybe they'll pay towards your closing costs.
Speaker AThat's right.
Speaker AThey'll do all those things.
Speaker AMoney all up in all the holes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ASo in this case.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AIn order to get that information, you have to go to their publicly filed SEC statements.
Speaker ALennar, Dr. Horton, Toll brothers.
Speaker AYou go to their statements.
Speaker AIn this case, it's.
Speaker AIt's Lennar.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd Lennar has been selling a huge amount of properties at a discount relative to where they're telling you they're selling them.
Speaker ASo the numbers that we're seeing posted are not true and accurate descriptions that.410,000 as of Q2 because our government's so behind on data.
Speaker AAnd that's why housing is lagging indicator, which is complete.
Speaker ARight, Whatever.
Speaker AHere you are.
Speaker AAnd this is included in that top line number.
Speaker ABut if you net it out, you're seeing a massive discount.
Speaker AThe biggest discount we've seen since 2018.
Speaker BI believe it.
Speaker BOkay, so I'm actually seeing people I saw.
Speaker BI can't remember.
Speaker BI wish I had the name of the guy to give him a shout out.
Speaker BBut he goes.
Speaker BHe goes around, I think different markets within Tennessee.
Speaker BAnd he's just saying, like, look, this person is underwater on their home.
Speaker BThey just bought.
Speaker BThey just bought their home.
Speaker ACan you imagine that guy shows in front of your house?
Speaker BYeah, he's just, get out of here.
Speaker BHe's literally walking around this.
Speaker BWalking around like neighborhoods just being.
Speaker BJust pulling up the data.
Speaker BSo it shows you on the screen.
Speaker BThis person bought the house for this price at this time, and they're now listed it and they've had price cuts of over like a hundred grand.
Speaker BYou're like, jeez, man.
Speaker BYeah, scary.
Speaker AIt's hard when you're rubbing in people's realized losses in their face when it's unrealized.
Speaker AYou're using Zillow as a proxy.
Speaker BThis, like, this is what's happening over so.
Speaker BBut he was using it as a way to attract buyers in Tennessee.
Speaker BLike, look, you can come get a steal over here.
Speaker AThat's the problem.
Speaker AThe Internet, man.
Speaker AEverything's.
Speaker AYou got it.
Speaker AIn order to be on the Internet, man, you got to say sensational stuff.
Speaker AAnd unfortunately, whether you like it or not, there's only two types of sensational that work.
Speaker AIt's the dodo.
Speaker BWhat's the dodo regil?
Speaker ADo you.
Speaker ACan you believe this?
Speaker BWhat's it.
Speaker AYou pull your mic up, you need to talk about this.
Speaker BTell me what's the dodo regil?
Speaker BIs he pulling it up?
Speaker ADo you not know what dodo is.
Speaker BSeriously, I seriously don't know what the dodo is.
Speaker BPlease explain for us.
Speaker BOh, he doesn't know.
Speaker ACome on, my guy.
Speaker AAll right, go to Instagram, pull up the dodo.
Speaker AThe dodo is the.
Speaker BYou knew.
Speaker AYou knew I wholesome.
Speaker ANo, I didn't know.
Speaker AI thought you were.
Speaker AYou know, we're not crazy.
Speaker AThe dodo is the most wholesome Instagram account you will ever see.
Speaker AIt's the, ah, post that you've all cats, kittens, like animal stories.
Speaker AIt's the most adorable damn Instagram page I go to.
Speaker BI gotta follow this for my kids.
Speaker AOkay, this is what you want on your feedback.
Speaker AThe dodo is always a wholesome story.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AAnd see, I know that you are an only fans person.
Speaker AI'm a dodo person.
Speaker BThat's the only fans person.
Speaker AYeah, I know.
Speaker AI get it.
Speaker AI know.
Speaker AStop winking at me, bro.
Speaker AIt's awkward.
Speaker BMy eyes are wide open.
Speaker AYour wife listening to the show now know what's going on.
Speaker AWe talked about this.
Speaker BThe dodo.
Speaker BOkay, how do you spell it?
Speaker BYou don't even know how to spell it.
Speaker BMy guy.
Speaker BIt's not even that much typed in.
Speaker BDo.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker AThe screen man, don't worry about it.
Speaker AWe'll do.
Speaker AI'll show you some other time.
Speaker BYeah, do the doo.
Speaker ASo there's.
Speaker BOkay, there's a dodo approach.
Speaker AThe wholesome super a.
Speaker AEven though it's like, like.
Speaker AAnd the problem is the AI is now creeping to the space because they can make animals whatever the hell they want with the.
Speaker AAw, I ain't going to lie.
Speaker AThe other part is, is it stigmatized?
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt triggers something in you.
Speaker AIt's trigger speech.
Speaker ARight, Right.
Speaker AAnd unfortunately, anger.
Speaker ARage.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AWhy do people.
Speaker BWhy do we like watching?
Speaker ABecause we love the rage.
Speaker AWe love the drama.
Speaker AWe're voyeuristic.
Speaker AWe love seeing that.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AYou don't want to spy on to people that are doing normal stuff.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AYou don't want to spy on people that are doing like the appropriate thing.
Speaker AYou want to spy on people are doing something naughty.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BOr maybe like on the.
Speaker BYeah, like watching somebody like, people like.
Speaker ALike, got him a Jill.
Speaker AI told you he was a sicko.
Speaker BNo, they filmed.
Speaker BThey filmed.
Speaker BThey film people like on the.
Speaker BOn the.
Speaker BLike, that's how like the Karen's got so popular, right?
Speaker BThe filming Karens.
Speaker BIt's like you're watching someone literally lose it.
Speaker AYou are like the First Amendment auditors.
Speaker AYou've seen this, right?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker AThey stand out in public places, recording people.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AFirst Amendment Right.
Speaker ATo be there.
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker BThere's like, they just, like, poking.
Speaker BI'm like, I could do it.
Speaker BI'm allowed to.
Speaker AWell, they're doing it solely because they know that someone will come along and give them content.
Speaker AYeah, that's what that's for, right?
Speaker BIt's called a rage bait.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AYeah, yeah.
Speaker ARage.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BIt's like, why, man?
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker BSo at the house, we are, like, trying to be really, really aware of, like, you know, scrolling and getting off that completely, especially at night.
Speaker BThe doom scroll at night.
Speaker BSo literally we're like, now, like, phones away.
Speaker BI have a whole, like, sleep time routine now where the phone just basically, you know, goes into sleep do not disturb mode.
Speaker BAnd so I just.
Speaker BI just want to be off it because, dude, I catch myself, like, blowing.
Speaker B20, 30 minutes.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker BWhat's going on?
Speaker BWhat's.
Speaker BWhat's the look for?
Speaker AI just.
Speaker AI want to hear more about your routine.
Speaker BMy routine?
Speaker BUploading.
Speaker B20, 30 minutes.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYou're wild.
Speaker BThat's a wild boy.
Speaker AOh, boy.
Speaker AWalk me through this.
Speaker AThis prep and routine.
Speaker BNo, no, no, I'm.
Speaker BWhat I mean is.
Speaker BNo, no, no, no, no.
Speaker AGive it to me.
Speaker BNo, the routine.
Speaker BMaking the tea and having a conversation with the wife.
Speaker AYou still doing that?
Speaker BI'm still doing that.
Speaker AEvery night.
Speaker BNo, when we can.
Speaker AOkay, so you make tea, the wife have a conversation, then you guys.
Speaker AOkay, it's bedtime.
Speaker AShe says yes, bedtime.
Speaker BGo put the kids down.
Speaker BWe're trying to be a little bit more.
Speaker AYou're not going to sleep with the kids.
Speaker AYou would.
Speaker AYou have tea after the kids are down, right?
Speaker BNo, tea after the kids.
Speaker BDecaf tea after the kids go down.
Speaker BOkay, right.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker BAnd then wind down, get ready for bed.
Speaker AWhat does that entail?
Speaker BWhat does that entail?
Speaker BShe gets ready first.
Speaker BI always let her get ready first because she has a whole, like, skincare routine.
Speaker AWomen always take longer that she.
Speaker BThat she does.
Speaker BThat she does after.
Speaker BAnd while she does that.
Speaker AYou don't have a skincare routine?
Speaker BI'm cleaning up the whole house.
Speaker BI have not as many as her, but, like, I got a good skin.
Speaker BGot a couple.
Speaker BGot a couple moisturizers, you know, some vitamin C creams, some.
Speaker BSome oils.
Speaker BWhat's the.
Speaker AIt's Diddy's baby oil.
Speaker BSo did his baby oil.
Speaker BAnd what is it?
Speaker BAnd then after we get ready, we'll.
Speaker BWe'll get into bed.
Speaker BWe'll actually.
Speaker BWe'll pray together.
Speaker AWhat do you wear to bed?
Speaker AHuh?
Speaker BWhat do you wear to bed?
Speaker BDo you want to know what I would.
Speaker AI want to know.
Speaker BYou were bad boxers in a tee.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI can't sleep in boxes.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AToo tight?
Speaker BNo, no, not briefs.
Speaker BBoxers.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo I have boxers just to go to sleep with.
Speaker BNot briefs.
Speaker BI sleep in bathrooms.
Speaker BI. I wear briefs.
Speaker AI wear basketball.
Speaker AShort sleep.
Speaker BCan't do that, bro.
Speaker BToo thick.
Speaker BThick.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ANo, my basketball shorts, always thin.
Speaker ANo.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BBut then I got to make sure that I don't wear our, our higher standard merch T shirts to go to bed because they go too long and it looks like it's covered.
Speaker ABoth you and your wife wearing T shirts?
Speaker BYeah, it's like, what's going on over here?
Speaker BBut yeah, now, now it's to the point where it's like, okay.
Speaker BWhen we get to bed, it's just like, okay, put, put the phones away and just don't doom.
Speaker AScroll.
Speaker ASo what do you do?
Speaker AWhat do you mean, what do you do?
Speaker AWhat do I.
Speaker BWhat do you mean what do I do?
Speaker AIf you put the phone away, I'm like, there.
Speaker BNo, there's some, there's like.
Speaker AYou guys talk.
Speaker BYeah, of course.
Speaker BMore talking.
Speaker BWe're gonna leave this PG show.
Speaker AI'm just at.
Speaker ANo, I'm not.
Speaker BFriends of the program are listening to the show.
Speaker AI've known your wife for way too long to go there.
Speaker AI don't want to go there.
Speaker AI'm just saying like, you know, but so you have the conversation, you talk.
Speaker BYeah, I have conversation.
Speaker BThen we go.
Speaker BAnd then we go to sleep.
Speaker BYeah, Simple.
Speaker BI'm trying, I'm actively, actively trying to give sleep, you know, more attention this year.
Speaker BTrying to.
Speaker BIt has been very tough as of late.
Speaker AEight sleep sensational.
Speaker BOnce I can afford one of those.
Speaker APossibly red light therapy.
Speaker AWe have a juve panel.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker BYou track your sleep score.
Speaker BHow is your sleep score?
Speaker ANot too good.
Speaker ALast couple weeks I haven't been sleeping a whole lot.
Speaker AYeah, I've been working, you know, 18 hours, ish a day.
Speaker ABut normally it's been pretty good.
Speaker AIt's been in the 80s and 80s for a while.
Speaker AThis is weird.
Speaker AI was during the height of the turmoil that was happening at my previous corporate life.
Speaker AI got into this routine where I woke up super early and I would get on the bike, get in the cold, plunge and start my day right.
Speaker ABut I also had a nighttime routine which included red light therapy.
Speaker AKind of a wind down, no technology.
Speaker AAnd if I did have technology, it was only reading.
Speaker AIt wasn't scrolling on websites, it was only reading stuff.
Speaker AAnd I had like high 90s like, almost 100.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AEven with all the anxiety, are all.
Speaker BYour lights on dimmers in the house?
Speaker AYeah, so I. I was an early adopter in hue light bulbs, and I even have the hue vintage, like, light bulbs.
Speaker AThe Edison style ones.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker AEverything in the house is on, like, a time, like, lighting system.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker AAnd then all the lights in the house are all, like, kind of like the orangish glow amber at night.
Speaker BSee, this is my bit.
Speaker BAnd so, like, you know, anyone that knows about, like, sleep, and you've.
Speaker BYou've gone down this path and you're tracking, like, you know, what kind of light are you absorbing in?
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASpend a lot of time with that.
Speaker BLike, I'm.
Speaker BI hyper obsessive over this right now.
Speaker BAnd, like, I'm trying to.
Speaker BI want to get into that, but it's like, how many.
Speaker BThere's so much that.
Speaker BThat I feel like needs to be corrected first, but that.
Speaker BThat's a real thing.
Speaker BSo, like, I'll try to take showers at night.
Speaker BLike, you know, like, dark.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BWith light just coming in from, like, the bedroom.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBecause I don't want.
Speaker BBecause we have literally, like, a recessed lighting, like, right above you.
Speaker BYou know, I'm just.
Speaker BI'm just trying to wind down.
Speaker BAnd I only have.
Speaker AWe only have one small corner lamp in our bedroom, and that's by design.
Speaker AAnd we have plantation shutters on both the windows so that it is intentionally very dark.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker AThe bedroom is always dark.
Speaker AIt's never, like, super well lit.
Speaker AYou can open the plantation shutters, and it's pretty, pretty bright during the day.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ABut there is no way to turn on, like, a lot of lights in the bedroom.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ABecause if you were having to sleep with me every single night, you probably wouldn't want to see me.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWhy?
Speaker BWhy what?
Speaker AJust.
Speaker BGeez.
Speaker BWhat's your bedtime routine?
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker ADude, it changes a lot.
Speaker ALike, when I'm working, like, I'll put Joanna to bed and I'll do, like, you know, I'll do some coding like we've been doing recently.
Speaker ABut normally Joanna will go get shower and get ready to bed first, and then if I'm going to shower afterward, I'll do it after.
Speaker AAfter her.
Speaker AI don't shower every night before bed.
Speaker AIf I don't go to the gym.
Speaker BI got to shower.
Speaker BThat's crazy me.
Speaker BRajill, do you shower before going and get into bed every night?
Speaker BDepends.
Speaker ASee, there you go.
Speaker AYou're the outlier here.
Speaker BDude, this is so, like, wild to me.
Speaker AI think I. I have a. I have a theory.
Speaker BTell me.
Speaker BI want to know.
Speaker BWhy am I like this?
Speaker BHelp me.
Speaker ANo, that I can't help you with.
Speaker ABut I have to.
Speaker BFor me, it's like I have to take a shower right before getting into bed.
Speaker AI think there is something healthy about not showering every time before you get into bed.
Speaker AI shower before bed.
Speaker AProbably, probably five times a week.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABut every once in a while, like, I'll not.
Speaker ABecause your skin needs like extra moisture.
Speaker AIt needs extra.
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo I don't like, wash my hair.
Speaker AIs going to take a shower.
Speaker BYeah, I've heard you're not supposed to.
Speaker AI don't shampoo.
Speaker AI wash my water, but I don't shampoo it every time they shower.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AWhen you pay $26,000 for hair transplant.
Speaker BYou got to take care of this bad boy.
Speaker AYou know, you got to, you got to save it.
Speaker ABut then I'm usually in bed and I read almost every single night when I'm in bed.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AAnd I don't read books anymore.
Speaker AI went through a long period of my life where I read books and now I read the news.
Speaker AI read the analytics or the data.
Speaker AAnd what people are getting on the.
Speaker AThe live streams is really what I do is I'm going through articles constantly looking at stuff and that, that has become, I guess, kind of like the hobby to the hobby, if you will.
Speaker ALike, the show is the purpose for it.
Speaker ABut it's always been something that I did even before the show got to where it's at today.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI just, I like being in the know.
Speaker AAnd the worst part about it is the more, you know, the more uncomfortable you are.
Speaker BYeah, that's true.
Speaker BAnd it's true that it's.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker BWe had this conversation.
Speaker BI mean, ignorance is bliss sometimes.
Speaker AWe got a lot more here, but I'm not gonna go through it.
Speaker AI'm just gonna give the headlines real quick.
Speaker AI think it's important to talk about because there are some things that we should bring up on another show.
Speaker APercentage of subprime auto loans that are 60 days or more overdue on their payments.
Speaker AHit an all time high of 6.65% auto loans.
Speaker BWow.
Speaker AYeah, I mean subprime.
Speaker ABut granted, big problem.
Speaker APrime loans are performing like they normally would.
Speaker ANothing out normal there.
Speaker ACapital One amex shares sync on Trump's credit card threat.
Speaker AWe covered that already, but CNBC via Instagram Sachs Fifth Avenue filing for bankruptcy.
Speaker AIt is a Chapter 11, so it is technically a reorg.
Speaker BWhat's going to Happen, don't you?
Speaker BIt doesn't affect you and some one of your perks.
Speaker ASo funny you should mention it.
Speaker AThat was what was all over the headlines of social media.
Speaker AIs that the American Express point?
Speaker ABecause if you read a platinum card or a black card, you got a certain amount of perks and they're different for the levels that you have, but you got a certain amount of credit every quarter for your spending.
Speaker AThey just credit you back the difference.
Speaker BYeah, yeah.
Speaker ASo they got hit and flooded hard with Amex buyers that were worried about they were gonna go out of business.
Speaker AI look, I look at North.
Speaker BI've never, I can't tell you if I've ever even shopped at Sax.
Speaker ASax sucks.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker ABut I'll tell you, super overpriced.
Speaker BI'll tell you this though.
Speaker BMy father in law, for Christmas, one of his clients sent him like apparently a vase.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI mean this is some rich people stuff, bro.
Speaker BWho sent somebody a vase is kind of crazy, right?
Speaker BAs your here's my Christmas gift.
Speaker BSo follows it here.
Speaker BYou can have it.
Speaker BYou can go return it to like how all like I'm going to need it.
Speaker BSo go return it.
Speaker BAnd whatever you get from it, you know, store credit, go ahead and have it.
Speaker BIt's your splurge, right?
Speaker AIt's enough for a down payment on a mortgage, right?
Speaker BSo it was 300.
Speaker BIt was like 300 bucks, right?
Speaker BNeiman, right?
Speaker BNeiman Marcus.
Speaker BAnd I can't tell you the last time I've been inside there.
Speaker BOkay, so we go down.
Speaker AIt's very sterile now.
Speaker AIt's weird.
Speaker BIt's.
Speaker BFirst of all, it was very empty.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BAnd we go and return it.
Speaker BWe don't have no idea what the price of this thing is going to be.
Speaker BAnd then, okay, it's $300, you know, here you go.
Speaker BAnd I told, I told my wife, okay, like I'll take the kids outside.
Speaker BAnd we were at Fashion island.
Speaker BAnd you know, you like just go find some that you like, right?
Speaker BFive minutes goes by, ten minutes.
Speaker BYou can't buy any 300 bucks, bro.
Speaker BIt's on.
Speaker BThere aren't even, they don't even sell Nikes.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BDo you know what I mean?
Speaker BLike I'm looking at, I'm looking at the sneakers.
Speaker BI don't even know the name of the shoe.
Speaker BYou know the, the shoe with like there's like a shooting star on it, right?
Speaker BIt's like 600.
Speaker AOh, golden goose.
Speaker BYeah, golden.
Speaker BLike who's buying this?
Speaker AMy wife has us.
Speaker BThey're so Expensive.
Speaker AAnd the worst part about them is, is they're intentionally beaten up.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI looked at them like, dude, this looks like it's time to get a new pair.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BThat's like buying jeans of a.
Speaker BWith tears on them.
Speaker ANo, it's worse.
Speaker BNo.
Speaker BYeah, it's worse.
Speaker BStrategically placed tears can be kind of sick.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BBut this is like.
Speaker BThis is beat up.
Speaker ANo, my wife has those.
Speaker BAt what point did, like, a fresh pair of kicks, like, go out of style?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AOh, I'm sorry.
Speaker AThe new wealthy is looking poor.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWild.
Speaker AThese are really popular for a little bit of time.
Speaker ALuckily, they're not as popular as they once were, but.
Speaker BBut yeah.
Speaker BSo then she couldn't find anything, so she ultimately went, like, perfume route.
Speaker ASo that's unfortunately what you want.
Speaker ASo with Sachs, I give a 250 credit.
Speaker AMy wife and I each.
Speaker AEvery quarter.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AThat's cool.
Speaker AYou either spend it or you lose it.
Speaker ABut basically they just reimburse you for up 250 bucks no matter what you spend there.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd I went on like a week ago, and I couldn't find a damn thing to buy.
Speaker AThey used to carry aloe and I could get, like, you know, like some of their stuff there, which is cool.
Speaker AFitness apparel.
Speaker AI don't even see that anymore.
Speaker BOh, wow.
Speaker AAnd then I'm looking through, like, all their prices and stuff, and I'm like, man, even for some of the skincare products, like 350.
Speaker AI don't want to spend more than I'm.
Speaker AI'm trying to be really conscious around spending right now.
Speaker ASo I don't want to spend more than I get credit for.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI can't find the bot.
Speaker BI know.
Speaker AMaybe I should buy a candle or something.
Speaker BI mean, I know, like, obviously, like, we're all trying to be a little bit smarter with our spending habits, but I'm getting, like.
Speaker BI'm at a point now where I'm getting, like, sick pleasure out of, like, saying, like, no to things.
Speaker AMe too.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BLike, I'm getting like.
Speaker BI'm enjoying being like, nah, I don't need it.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BLike, I don't know if it's just like, an age thing or if it's me understanding, like, what's going on in the market or.
Speaker AI have taken personal pride in not buying anything on Amazon.
Speaker AAmazon recently.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BWell, I never got into that.
Speaker BI've literally never, like, like, bought something for myself on Amazon that wasn't, like, a need.
Speaker AOh, I mean, yeah.
Speaker AOkay.
Speaker BI mean, do you get what I'm saying?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI've never, I've never, like, I don't like, I'm not like an Amazon going, ooh, I should buy this because.
Speaker BOh.
Speaker BLike, I think the only thing that I routinely buy on.
Speaker BOn Amazon is hair gel for Adam and I.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AThat's.
Speaker BThis is literally the only thing that I buy.
Speaker BAnd then I just recently, after like three years, I bought new shaving gel.
Speaker BBut I'm also not upkeeping a house.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker BLike how it does all that stuff.
Speaker BIt makes it easier to upkeep the home.
Speaker BBut that's literally all the only things that I'll buy for myself.
Speaker AI haven't bought much anything lately.
Speaker AToday, even today.
Speaker ALike, I've been going to Whole Foods at lunch.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd grabbing like the pre made.
Speaker ACan we, can we just call out Lucille's for a little bit?
Speaker BCan we?
Speaker BYeah, Lucille's.
Speaker BNeed to catch a stray right now.
Speaker BI. I was very disappointed.
Speaker AYou.
Speaker AWhy?
Speaker AYour bowl was fine.
Speaker BNo, but there's multiple things that went wrong tonight.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BWe're gonna sound so bad, though, if you, if you don't deliver this message properly.
Speaker BWe're gonna sound like some pricks.
Speaker AWe walked in at 6pm to a relatively empty restaurant.
Speaker AUs three, all of us regil side.
Speaker AAnd I was team meeting.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd we requested one high chair for three of us.
Speaker AAnd we're all gonna sit on each other's laps.
Speaker BApparently.
Speaker AThat's offensive.
Speaker ABut they asked us to wait for 10, 15 minutes even though there was tons of tables available.
Speaker ASo red flag number one.
Speaker BI don't understand that.
Speaker BI need, I need somebody to explain that to me.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe waiter came to the table, bro.
Speaker AHe was.
Speaker AHe looked very disinterested.
Speaker AHe's like, can I help you?
Speaker AYeah, cool.
Speaker AYeah, Yeah.
Speaker AI asked him specifically for biscuits.
Speaker BDidn't bring us the biscuits.
Speaker BWe never got the biscuits.
Speaker BHe asked twice.
Speaker AI asked twice, bro.
Speaker BYou go to Lucille's for the biscuits?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker ANo honey butter, Nothing.
Speaker BHonestly, you know what happened?
Speaker BHe probably looked at me and was like, bro, that guy, he's had one too many biscuits, dog.
Speaker AYou look like you just had three.
Speaker AYou look puffy.
Speaker BYou look like you had some in the waiting room, sir.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd then, you know, we, we got terrible service.
Speaker ARest of the time, nobody talked to us when we.
Speaker AIt was time to check out.
Speaker AOh.
Speaker AAnd then my bowl came a chicken.
Speaker AChicken mashed potato bowl.
Speaker BHow much chicken was in there?
Speaker AThere was probably, and I'm overstating 2 ounces of chicken.
Speaker AIt looked like somebody had deep fried like a chicken foot.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAnd left it in there.
Speaker AI mean, that was all.
Speaker AIt was there.
Speaker AI took one bite and looked down like, wait a minute.
Speaker AWhere's the rest?
Speaker AChicken.
Speaker AI kept digging around the bowl, looking for more.
Speaker AMore chicken.
Speaker AThere was nothing else there.
Speaker AIt was all carrots, which.
Speaker AFine, I guess I'm a vegetarian now.
Speaker AShout out to the vegetarians out there.
Speaker AAnd then he turns around the tip thing on the.
Speaker AOn the computer, and it's 18, 20, 22, 25.
Speaker BStarting at 18 is crazy.
Speaker BStarting 18 is absolutely wild.
Speaker BMeanwhile, by the way, I have to bring this up just because you said it right now.
Speaker BI recently went to one of those, like, Middle Eastern markets.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI love those markets.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd I don't know if you've ever.
Speaker BWhen's the last time you guys have been to one?
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BSo they had this aisle, like, an hour.
Speaker BPeople just like, you stand in to go to the checkout line, and right there is where, like, all the.
Speaker BAll the meats are, too.
Speaker BAnd there's, like, chicken feet there.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BI had never seen it.
Speaker AOh, really?
Speaker BI had heard of it.
Speaker BI had never seen it before.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker BAnd I understand it could be, like, viewed as a delicacy.
Speaker BRight.
Speaker AI'm from the south, but they did in Midwest.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BI had no idea.
Speaker BI'm sitting with my kids, and my daughter's asking me, what's that?
Speaker BAnd I really, genuinely had no idea.
Speaker BI just, like, lean in to look at the label and.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BAnd the claws on them.
Speaker BAnd I'm like, what?
Speaker BAnd I had.
Speaker BI didn't even know how to explain it to him.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI have family from Louisiana.
Speaker BThey're like, how do you cook it?
Speaker BHow do you make it?
Speaker BI'm like, I have.
Speaker BI. I don't even know where to do them.
Speaker ACook them in stew for a long time.
Speaker BYou enjoy them.
Speaker AThey soften up.
Speaker AI'm not a fan.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, I've had, like, crawfish, frog legs.
Speaker AI mean, you name it.
Speaker AI've had, like, all, like, the real Southern.
Speaker BCould you, boy?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, I grew up in Oklahoma.
Speaker AMy family's from Louisiana, so.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AYou ever talk to somebody from Louisiana, Like a real Louisiana?
Speaker BNo.
Speaker AOh, my God.
Speaker AThe French accent is.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's.
Speaker AIt's English, but it's French.
Speaker ALike, overlaid English.
Speaker AIt's very different.
Speaker AVery.
Speaker AIt sounds like they're intentionally speaking, like, slang to you, but they just have a different language system that's based more on French slash, like, English, and it's very different.
Speaker AAnd I've got family who sound like that.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker AYeah, it's very trippy, but you can use it after a while.
Speaker AYou think.
Speaker AYou think at first they're playing with you, huh?
Speaker ABut then, like, who that out there, boy?
Speaker BYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker BI mean.
Speaker BI mean, I went to New Orleans, but I didn't get any of that.
Speaker AOh, yeah, you go to some of the smaller towns.
Speaker ANew Orleans.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker AAll right, let's.
Speaker ALet's call it, shall we friendo?
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BShall we Brigil.
Speaker AHow you feel about tonight's show?
Speaker BIt was good.
Speaker AYeah?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker BYou got anything?
Speaker BYeah, the teleprompter here is really blocking him for me.
Speaker AI can't have you guys locking eye contact anymore.
Speaker AIt's getting very awkward for me and the rest of the audience.
Speaker AYou guys have.
Speaker BI keep looking over.
Speaker BI'm trying to get.
Speaker BKeep him engaged, but you're like, no, absolutely cannot pass go.
Speaker AI asked you if the teleprompter was okay right there.
Speaker BNo, no, I was just kidding.
Speaker BI'm just.
Speaker BI couldn't see him the whole show.
Speaker AReally?
Speaker BI kind of tried to look at him this whole time.
Speaker BLook at that trend setting with the quarter when he wasn't so skinny.
Speaker AYou can see him the whole time.
Speaker AThere you go.
Speaker AGood job, dude.
Speaker BNext week you'll come down, say, I'm down 60.
Speaker BWatch.
Speaker AYeah, we got to have an intervention at some point in time.
Speaker BYeah, bro.
Speaker BAt some point.
Speaker BExactly.
Speaker AThe burrito chose.
Speaker AYou were Jill.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BI mean, the goal is 180.
Speaker ASo, you know, how far away are you from that right now?
Speaker BAbout 10 to now.
Speaker BProbably 12 pounds away since eating at Lucille's.
Speaker BThat's incredible, man.
Speaker BWho do you.
Speaker BWho do you credit that all to?
Speaker AMe, obviously.
Speaker BFridays, good night.
Speaker AEverybody.
Speaker BDunked it.