Bernard:

Welcome back to the Daily Bible Podcast! We're so glad you've joined us. And now your hosts, Pastor PJ and Pastor Rod.

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Hey everybody. Welcome back to another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Do you want me to have Bernard say that for you? I mean, I can have him say it, so you could just jump right into it. We could. We could do that. I'm just gonna, I'll have him do it for the last one too. Okay. So you just don't want me to say anything then? No. You just want me to be like, we're back. I'm just taking, is Pastor PGA and his pastor? No. He even says that, man, you're taking all my job away from me. Do you want to just do the podcast with Bernard? No, no. I'm trying to free you from having to repeat yourself so you can get into stuff that people really want to hear. It's kind of like, it's like a pre routine Google. The, the googly is ours. That that can't be taken away by ai. Right. And the content, I think the content inside is also ours, so, okay. We just do our thing. We let him take your, I don't, I'm not gonna know how to start though. It, it's like getting a running start at something. Yeah, but you don't need it. I think you can pull it off. I don't. Okay. You can do it. I, but if it suffers, it won't it. Bernard's fart. Won fart, fart fault. It's physically impossible for Bernard to do that. Yep. I think we've gone almost two years without any potty humor. Bernard's fault. You are the first one to introduce. I think all of us are surprised by that. Uh, that's Bernard's bet's fault too. Ift. If we were betting, we would not bet you would be the one introduced that it would be, wouldn't it? Yeah. Anyways. Hey, I was having lunch with Louis this last week and we were talking about some things and we got to talking about the cannon of scripture. So I've got a question before for you, pastor Ron. Um, Paul refers to a, a few other letters that he wrote to the Corinthians two that we think that, that he wrote. Uh, why don't we have them? And if we found them today, should they be considered authoritative? One first answer to your question, why haven't we found them? God decided that we wouldn't have them two. No, they wouldn't be. Why wouldn't they be authoritative? If the first two letters are authoritative, because not everything Paul wrote is authoritative. Okay. So there's your answer. Yeah. Yeah. The, the canon's just such a, we can, we have confidence in, in the canon. In fact, when you look historically at the lists that emerged from very early on, you see consistency there. In fact, very uh. Very much the, the reality is we're not looking at any lists that say, and, and also the Gospel of Thomas and also the Gospel of Peter. Instead, what we're looking at is, is some people wrestling with some of the, the more difficult books like for example, the book of James, because of what James says about faith and works and what Paul says about faith and works. In fact, Luther. Really didn't like the book of James at all and, and others found it difficult. Or example. Second Peter. We're studying first Peter right now, second Peter. It took the church a while to come along to you because the Greek is much different in second Peter than it is in first Peter. So that's what we're dealing with when we have questionable books with regards to the canon. But the church landed on things that were authoritative in the ad. It wasn't in the, the three hundreds ad that the church said, these are the books of the Bible. Everybody needs to listen to these. They instead, were going, let's look at the list that has been that the lists. Plural that have been created for years and years and years, centuries now. And see the books that have been agreed upon and figure out is, is let's officially codify this and say it's, it is done. Here's the, the canon. And that's what they did then. But it's always interesting to me because Paul did write other books and we gotta imagine Peter probably wrote other books too, or his e nuis did, um, that we don't have. And I agree with you, if we were to discover them somewhere, they still wouldn't be considered authoritative and we'd be okay with that. And, and whether that's because Paul wrote these letters to the church and said, Hey, these, this isn't meant for circulation, because that's what happened. That's how a lot of these became authoritative. He wrote to the churches an Ephesus, but then the church is an Ephesus sent that letter to the churches in Galatia, and the churches in Galatia sent their letter to the churches in Ephesus and so forth and so on. And the churches began to circulate these letters because there was common. Uh, scripture. There was common, um, teaching in there that was good for all of the churches all over the place, and that's how they began to be, be considered authoritative, uh, pieces of scripture or parts of God's word. The, the other letters to the Corinthians that, uh, the Corinthians, they didn't get that same treatment, and so that's why we would say today, even if we found them, yeah, they, they wouldn't be considered authoritative. You can have confidence in the list that you do have in the books that. Are in our Bibles today. You don't need to sit there and say, is this, is this really all there is? Is there something else? There's not something else. We even see it, I think in First Corinthians, when Paul's writing about marriage, he says, Hey, I'm gonna tell you something now. That's me. This is me writing. This isn't God. This isn't me writing on behalf of the authority of God. This is my point of view on here. I think it's better that you guys should all remain single. We know that Paul sets that off because God says what? Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth, which means that God designs for marriage to take place. Paul's not disagreeing with God. He's just saying, Hey, you wanna know my 2 cents? I think there's something good about being single. So as you're reading your Bibles, just know we can have confidence in the Bible that we have, which I, I guess that's worth talking about when Paul says things like that. Is that biblically binding? Would you think that that's also something from God or is that Paul's words in the, the canon of scripture. So I think God wanted that there it, but at the same time, and so it is part of scripture. But binding, though, not binding, I would not say that those words are binding. Just like we have other things that are recorded in the Old Testament, for example, we, we have the, the errors of the Kings recorded. We have a lot of things that the kings said recorded. That doesn't mean that those things are are binding, but they are. They are authorized, they are part of God's word. They are factual. We can believe in the, the events that are recorded there without saying, and thus we should do likewise at the same time. So in one Corinthians seven, then when Paul says, I, I, I say this, the Lord didn't say this, I say this, you would say that that has a different application weight, authoritative weight on, on the life of the believer. Um, does, does the fact that he's an. Apostle change that at all. The fact that he carries the authority of Christ well, and I think that's where we have to stop by, stop down and say, okay, this isn't a fool that's saying this, this, and Paul even makes that argument. He says, I, I still, I think I have some wisdom to bring to the table. Um, I, I think it's, it's worth listening to, but I think it's, it's, versus when it says. In the Old Testament, thou shall not commit adultery. Okay? That, that's God's command. There's no wiggle room there. When Paul says, I, if you want my 2 cents on the matter, this is me not the Lord speaking on this. Here's my opinion on this. There's more of an opportunity to say, okay, is that where I'm at? Or do I feel like God is calling me to, to a different reality there? Um, so I guess let, let's just be clear on what we're saying then. First Corinthians seven 12 is the passage here? Yes. To the rest I say. I not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. And then he carries on to specify even more about what he means. So in this particular case, then you would say that this is the Apostle Paul's opinion on the subject, and that it is possible, therefore to come to a different conclusion than Paul on something like this? I, I do, I do because I, I don't know, know otherwise why he sets it off. I, it's, is it possible that he was saying, look, there's nothing that scri that Christ said about this in his earthly ministry, but I say to you, here's, here's what, here's an authoritative, uh, approach to this, even though the Lord himself did not say this. Yes. Yeah. That's, yeah, I can see that. Yeah, I, I, I've always, I guess that's how I've understood it. Usually, most often, I, I think there's another place where Paul says, I say not the Lord. Right. Um, this place, I think I, I think, and I'll offer it humbly 'cause I haven't studied this in a few years. This is binding for the church. Yeah, I wasn't thinking of that place. I would agree. I think that is binding. I was saying, and I guess his language is different, but in verse six he says, now as a concession, not a command, I say this, I wish all were as I myself am, but each has his own gift from God. One of one, kind of one of the other. I mean, he's, he's saying this is not a command, this is a concession. I'm, I'm saying this realizing, I can't say with the, the authority of God behind this, right. Do this. But he is saying, but this is my 2 cents on the matter. So. That's what where my, my mind went. I wasn't thinking of verse 12 when he, when he is talking about. Consenting to live with them. They should not divorce them. I would say yes, we do need to, to follow him on that. We're in the same ballpark. Actually, look at verse 10, uh, to the married, I give this charge, not I, but the Lord. Here we go again. The wife should not separate from her husband, but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband, and the husband should not divorce his wife. So he says that phrase again, not I, but the Lord. Right binding unbinding. What would you say about that one? Well, and that's even interesting. I I, maybe the question is wisdom versus wise versus unwise because he gives the qualification there if she does separate from her husband. She should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband, and the husband should not divorce his wife. In other words, I don't see, he's, he's not saying she needs to be put outta the church, under church discipline. This is an interesting gray area, middle ground almost, that he's allowing for here to say she may make that decision and, and if she makes that decision, okay, but this is, this is the, the consequence of that she needs to remain unmarried then. Maybe that's what he's allowing for, because he's not able to say with absolute certainty and authority, this is what the Lord says verbatim on this matter. Yeah, I guess I've always understood it the way that I, I said previously, I think he's asserting his authority not in contrast to Christ. But saying, Christ didn't say anything about this, but here's what I say. So he's clarifying. It is not the Lord that I'm getting this from. 'cause Paul himself had interactions with the Lord. He's one of the few apostles who came after the 12 who was able to meet Christ face to face. Remember the whole Acts, chapter nine, Saul meets the Lord on the, on the road, right? And so here I think he's saying, look, the Lord, you didn't tell me this, but I'm telling you. Right? And therefore the wait still remains. Which is why I think he says, you should not do these things. Uh, not that you could, or that possibly you, you might choose this or that. I, I think he's asserting it. Under the authority of his apostleship. That's fair. Yeah. Uh, yeah. And like I said, I was thinking more back in, in verse six, when he is, he's giving the concession, not the command. I wasn't thinking about that even though that's what I was quoting. Gotcha. So yeah, thanks for clear clarifying. 'cause that could have been really confusing. Our people would've been like, what? We're, we're out, we're leaving. I don't, I don't believe that, uh, you can jettison Paul's teaching on divorce and, and marriage. That is not, hear me. Say that again. Thomas Jefferson Bible 2.0. Yeah. I do not believe that. Alright, well let's get to, that's a lot of googly, man. That was, that was, that was not googly. That that was not playful. That was more like, let's think about this. Let's think about this. Yeah. That was different. Yeah. So just to summarize, I do believe. In what Paul is saying here, that it is binding. Do you believe that all scripture is infallible and inherent, pastor pj? Yes, I do. Do you believe it's the very word of God? I do all of it. All of it. Every single chapter. Yes. Even Song of Solomon. Even Song of Solomon. Okay. Yes. Except yes, which I heard. Next time you I'm out of town, you're gonna preach Song of Solomon for us. Dude, let me add it. Okay? I would be happy to. Awesome. Our church. Embrace. There we go. I, I would be so uncomfortable. I don't even know if I could read it. In a mixed setting without blushing. I went to a marriage retreat where they had people come up on stage and read that passage, like the, was it a church? I know passages. It was one of the churches down in San Diego. It was one of the churches that partnered with us so many times in in av. Yikes. And like I was like, what? Okay. I, you know, at a marriage retreat, I guess that is the right place to do it. In mixed company though, like all of scripture had, any younger wife has breed out, my God, in profitable teaching passages in the mixed company. Oh yeah. It's a little, it's a little bit, but I think principally I'd have to say, okay. This is, this was designed for God's people. Yeah. And you're not gonna just read it as husband and wife in private. Yeah. Do not neglect the public reading of scripture. Come on. Okay. Come on. Okay. Well scripture reading this Sunday. Look out folks. Pastor Rod. Do it man. Alright, let's jump in. I'm playing the guitar. I'm on the guitar and I'm singing so I can do it. If you get a mic in. I do not. Jeremiah. Jeremiah 32 through 34, Jeremiah 32. Um, God tells Jeremiah to do a very strange thing here. Uh, he tells him to buy some land in the midst of a siege. Uh, and the reason why you wouldn't do that is because the siege is indicative of the fact. And Jeremiah knew it was about to happen because God had told him, uh, of the. Of the reality that man Babylon was about to destroy the, the city of Jerusalem. So we're dealing with 5 87, 5 86 bc. This is right around the time that the city's gonna fall. It's gonna be a 30 month long siege that's gonna take place here. And these instructions are just, it, it doesn't make sense from a human perspective. And, and Jeremiah, even Russell with it, he's gonna in. Part of chapter 32, he's gonna pray to before the Lord and say, Lord, listen, you are all powerful. You are a loving God. You are omniscient, you know all things and you're just, and yet God, what are you doing here? And God is going to tell him, look, judgment is going to come, but after the judgment is going to come the restoration. So this is again, a situation where God is using Jeremiah to live out something that is the message that he's sending to his people. So he has Jeremiah buy some land that is. You know, from an earthly point of view, really a foolish investment because that's about to be land that, that Babylon is gonna take over. And yet God is telling Jeremiah, this land will be redeemed and I'm going to bring my people back here to this, this property. So, uh, that's kind of the, the lesson of the, the field that Jeremiah buys. I think this is a good example of what it looks like to doubt with faith, because Jeremiah does initially question God and say, how, how, why? Can, can you just fill me in a little bit more on this? I think that's okay. Uh, God does not expect us to, to check out our thinking cap when we're talking with him, when we're interacting with his word, but I do appreciate the way that Jeremiah goes about it. He asks for wisdom, which James chapter one says, when you do it, God wants to give it. So you should pursue that now. Faith does not mean not thinking. And in fact, to the contrary, faith is thinking more than you would otherwise and trusting that the Lord who gives us the ability to think and to understand rightly will actually guide us through the doubt. Yeah. The chapter ends with, uh, more millennial kingdom imagery. There, the promise that he will be, uh, their God and they will be with him as their people, as his people. Again, that's Revelation 21, uh, language as well, which I know is not the millennial kingdom. That's the eternal state, but still it is, uh, it is indicative of the. The fulfillment that will begin to take place during the millennial kingdom. Um, chapter 33, then we find more new covenant language back in verse seven, uh, where it says, I will restore the fortunes of Judah and the fortunes of Israel and rebuild them as they were at first. I will cleanse them from the guilt of their sin against me. That's new covenant language. I will forgive all the guilt of their sin in the rebellion against me. Again, new covenant language, and we know that. That, that indicates that this is a, a future, uh, fulfillment of this. This is not under Cyrus in the, the return of the, the exiles after 70 years. This has gotta be the, the millennial kingdom, uh, that is, is referred to here. Uh, if you look at, uh, verse, uh, man. Verse 11, he says, the voice of mirth, the voice of gladness, the voice of the bride, groom, the voice of the bride, the voices of those who sing as they bring thank offerings, all that's gonna come back and, and earlier all that had been threatened to be taken away, that there was gonna be none of that anymore when God brought judgment upon the land. And now in the millennial kingdom, all of that, that was once taken away is going to come back. Because as he continues in verse 15, that righteous branch, the Messiah, the Messiah's gonna be there. The the righteous branch is gonna spring up for David and he's gonna execute justice in the land for thus says the Lord. Verse 17, David shall never lack a man to sit on the throne of the house of Israel. This is the Davidic covenant being fulfilled. In the person of David, and like you brought up yesterday, pastor Rod. Here's another example of that certainty. When God says, if you can break my covenant with the day and my covenant with the night, so the day and night will not come at their appointed time, then also my covenant with David, my servant may be broken so that he shall not have a son of reign. In other words, God is saying the Davidic covenant's not going away, just like Dan Knight are not gonna go away. And so there is that future and it's going to be realized in the person of Jesus Christ reigning during the millennial kingdom from here on Earth. I think this should encourage us as we read through that God has a plan that goes from the very beginning, all the way through the very end. And what's most fascinating about this, even though you're not reading it in Jeremiah three, three, is that you're part of that plan. If you're listening to this podcast and you have a faith in Christ, you're trying to read your Bible and understand what God is doing, you have a role. Now you may not be the center stage. Uh, I don't know if you've ever been in any shows, pastor pj, were you in any drama shows in in your life? I was in a musical in high school, seven Brides for seven brothers. And you, which one were you? Were you I was a suitors. That's so beautiful. Hi. No, I was a bad guy. You're the bad guy. I was one of the suitors. Uh, obviously there's only a few people that can play the star of the show in our drama that we're in. Jesus is the star of the show. And everything that we're reading here is highlighting the fact that Jesus, the David, that he promises here who would sit on the throne is the star of the show. All of us are background bit players. Some of us have larger roles than others. Some of us have speaking lines like the prophets, and those lines are kept and preserved for the rest of us who are reading the script. But rest assured, you have a, a part to play and your part, whatever slice of the universe God has given you authority and stewardship over is to be played faithfully. Everything that we're doing is part of his plan and his drama. That's ultimately, as you just said previously, PJ is to bring him glory. That's our job. What a cool thing it is that the master has all of the pieces figured out. He knows where we all go. He knows that the roles we're supposed to play and he's gonna bring it to pass, and it is as sure as day and night are. Sure. The fact that he guarantees that those will always happen. So I think it's awesome and you should derive great comfort and hope from the fact that he has all things figured out. You give a part to play and I pray that you play it well today. Yeah, don't I? I wish we were ending that. 'cause that would've been a good end. It would be great. Don't play it like Zia though. Oof. Which is a good transition, right. To chapter 34. It's a good transition. Yeah. 'cause Zetia is going to be taken away in, into captivity, into Babylonian captivity. And yet what? What I find interesting here is God's gonna show some mercy to Zedekiah still because he tells Zedekiah, you're not gonna die from the sword. You're gonna die in peace. Which is. Somewhat puzzling because it's not as though Zaka was a, wasn't a good dude, a great, a great guy, but God is gonna show him mercy in that regard. Some small, uh, small mercy. And yet, um, if Zaka never repented and, and never truly sought the Lord, then it doesn't matter whether he dies by the sword or dies in peace, he dies and goes to eternal judgment, which is, uh, the, the, the greatest reality of God's justice. And that's a good reminder for us. Sometimes we can feel like somebody gets away with something or. I, I remember, uh, you know, so often you hear about these mass shootings and then the shooter takes their own life and there's a sense of justice not being done because he didn't have to face human justice. And yet that's just a misunderstanding of divine justice, because divine justice is far greater than any justice a human court could levy. And so Aze Kai is gonna face justice. He's gonna face justice before God, whether he dies by the sword or dies in peace in Babylon. Uh, it's, it's not gonna change the fact that he's gonna have to stand before God at the great white throne specifically and hear his final judgment pronounced against him. The rest of of the chapter interestingly, deals with, and, and the prophets do this. They're going along, dealing at the 30,000 foot view, and then all of a sudden they'll drop down. Hit something that's kind of on the ground. We saw this recently with the Sabbath, and we talked about why they were talking about the breaking of the Sabbath. Well, this time it's the year of Jubilee and the freeing of the sleeves. The, the sleeves, the slaves, the slaves. That's twice. Oh man. Same episode. I am gonna keep all of this ending. This is gonna be one of the few episodes I do not edit. This is my least favorite episode that we've done, so this is the best one we've done. I'm not even gonna edit this one. I'm just gonna, I'll. Fix the audio and I'm sending it. That's all I'm gonna say. The slaves, the freeing of the slaves. They were agreeing to do that. They were doing it temporarily and then they were taking the slaves back and God was saying, this is not good. This is not right. You shouldn't be doing this. And so he's going to cite that specifically as reason for his wrath. Any thoughts as to why he goes after that? Specifically the slaves? Yeah. Well, not the sleeves. Not the sleeves. Uh, we, and, and when we did all the minor prophets this, this summer, we did all of them. We learned that God really cares about the way. That Israel and Judah apply justice socially, right? And so I think this is one of the reasons that God sends him into Exxon the first place. And so he's still banging on the same drum. You're not being righteous, you're not fulfilling your vows, you're not executing justice the way that you should, and therefore, I'm come, I'm coming at you. This really bothers me. God hates, hates when the strong oppress the weak. He hates it. Um, he's so passionate about it that he cites this as one of the primary reasons why he has to remove them from the land, among other reasons. But this is one of the primary, and that goes to show that our relationship with God must by necessity affect the way that we love and care for our fellow man. Especially the church. But, but even beyond that, the way that we care for the weak and the oppressed, even James says in the New Testament, your relationship with God will result in a care for orphans and widows. The, the, the most depressed and the, and the most vulnerable among us will be people of our special care and concern because of the way that God has cared and concerned himself for us, I can't deny that, and I think that's what's on God's heart here. That's good. I, I would agree. I think that's a good read on it. Well, let's pray and then we'll be done with this episode. Again, just so everybody's clear, I don't think that you can set aside Pauline teaching that that's, that's not what I was saying at the beginning of the episode, contrary to all the confusion. So, anyways, and what about what Bernard said though? It's Bernard's fault. It's his fault. Fault. It's his fault. All right, let's pray that we, we are grateful for laughter and, uh, that we can laugh at ourselves and that we are, are such fallen creatures that we can't even string words together sometimes in a way that is sensical and, and not. Stumbling over, uh, our own inefficiencies. We're grateful that you are a God of perfection. That every word that you speak is, is weighty and good and right, and placed in the exact spot that it should be. And it is true, and we can hang on all of them and depend upon them. And so help us to understand them as we study them as. And at the same time, to laugh at our own failures, uh, not our sins, but our own shortcomings as a reminder that we are creatures and you are the creator, and we are to serve and worship you. Above all, we pray the P all in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Keep reading your Bibles. Tuning in tomorrow for another edition of the Daily Bible Podcast. Enjoy one of the first episodes that we've not really edited. Have fun. Bye.

Bernard:

Well, thank you for listening to another insightful episode of the Daily Bible Podcast, folks! We're honored to have you join us. This is a ministry of Compass Bible Church in north Texas. You can find out more information about our Church at compassntx.org. We would love for you to leave a review, to rate, or to share this podcast on whatever platform you're listening on, and we hope to see you again tomorrow for another episode of the Daily Bible Podcast. Ya'll come back now, ya hear?

PJ:

Yeah. I would agree with everything that you said