I'm Todd Miller of Isaiah Industries, manufacturer
Todd Miller:of specialty metal roofing and other building materials.
Todd Miller:Today, my co host is Ethan Young.
Todd Miller:Ethan, welcome to the show.
Todd Miller:How are you doing?
Ethan Young:Thanks Todd.
Ethan Young:I'm doing pretty good, honestly.
Ethan Young:How you doing?
Todd Miller:I am doing well also.
Todd Miller:So, as you know, I was up in Chicago this week for Metal Construction Association,
Todd Miller:metal roofing alliance, trade meetings.
Todd Miller:And, that was a lot of fun.
Todd Miller:It's always fun to connect with, colleagues and, kind of talk, shop a
Todd Miller:little bit and learn about the industry.
Todd Miller:But, we did have a couple of neat speakers, at the, main conference.
Todd Miller:One of them talked a lot about how to build.
Todd Miller:build strategy and planning into your business.
Todd Miller:And so I'm anxious to delve into that a little bit.
Todd Miller:we may even have some meetings here at work about it.
Todd Miller:Can you believe that?
Todd Miller:and then we also talked quite a bit about some of the industry statistics that
Todd Miller:are starting to come out that have been collected through 2023 and, kind of cool.
Todd Miller:We're seeing continued growth of metal and pretty much all segments, of construction.
Todd Miller:And so the future certainly seems to be bright, lots going on out there
Todd Miller:and, still lots more people getting involved, jumping on the metal bandwagon.
Todd Miller:So that was a lot of fun.
Todd Miller:A lot of fun.
Todd Miller:Anyone wants to check out.
Todd Miller:those organizations?
Todd Miller:It is Metal Roofing Alliance at metalroofing.com and Metal Construction
Todd Miller:Association at metalconstruction.org.
Todd Miller:So you good to go?
Todd Miller:Ethan?
Todd Miller:Let's do this.
Ethan Young:we're all ready.
Todd Miller:Very good.
Todd Miller:So as we go into the future of construction and, really not just
Todd Miller:construction management, but all types of management, I think we're clearly
Todd Miller:seeing in today's world how important efficiency and productivity, are now and
Todd Miller:how much more important they will be.
Todd Miller:in the future.
Todd Miller:It seems like all industries are finding themselves having to try to do more
Todd Miller:with fewer people and tighter resources.
Todd Miller:A lot of times of all kinds, finding ways to speed things up, but still
Todd Miller:maintain that focus on customer delight and quality and all those good things.
Todd Miller:Just seems like the stakes in all areas keep increasing and As technology
Todd Miller:sort of propels us into the future.
Todd Miller:I really think that, trend is going to continue.
Todd Miller:but the good thing is, and we see this, the companies that get that all
Todd Miller:figured out quickly find ways to elevate themselves above their competition.
Todd Miller:Well, today's guest is someone with a very unique background, and we're going
Todd Miller:to dig into his background a little bit, but he and his business partner have
Todd Miller:used their experience in construction project management to develop a solution
Todd Miller:to the demands that they were facing in their work, a solution that they now make
Todd Miller:available through their own internet.
Todd Miller:development, which is called Jet dot build.
Todd Miller:Jet dot build streamlines real estate development and construction management
Todd Miller:with simplified software that utilizes A.
Todd Miller:I.
Todd Miller:This powerful tool empowers project stakeholders with centralized command
Todd Miller:operations, management, project, accounting, stakeholder collaboration,
Todd Miller:communications and data retention again with AI insights coming into all of that.
Todd Miller:So our guest today is Adam Stark, and he's going to share with us a bit
Todd Miller:about his life and the platform that they've built that other companies
Todd Miller:are now using every day, and on every project to benefit themselves.
Todd Miller:But we're also going to learn a little bit about a podcast he has put together
Todd Miller:called The veterans Who Build Show.
Todd Miller:So I'm anxious for that as well.
Todd Miller:Adam Stark, welcome to construction disruption.
Todd Miller:Pleasure to have you here today.
Adam Stark:Thanks so much for having me and, you know, what,
Adam Stark:what an awesome introduction.
Adam Stark:I really, really appreciate, all, you know, those kind words and, and
Adam Stark:really the plug into both the business side and, the, you know, community
Adam Stark:development, I'll call it side with, the veterans who built you out of
Adam Stark:the podcast that, we've just started.
Adam Stark:Thank you.
Todd Miller:That's cool.
Todd Miller:Well, we want to hear about all of that.
Todd Miller:And I know you.
Todd Miller:and I had the opportunity to speak a few weeks ago and I quickly said, Yeah,
Todd Miller:there's, there's a great story here and some great things and great insights.
Todd Miller:So looking forward to talking more.
Todd Miller:so, I'd love to kind of start out, a little bit with your own story,
Todd Miller:that ultimately allowed you to end up where you are today with jet.build.
Todd Miller:You grew up in Israel, would love to hear a little bit about that, but I'm
Todd Miller:curious, I mean, growing up in Israel, did you ever think you'd end up here
Todd Miller:in the States as a business owner?
Todd Miller:So how did that all transpire?
Adam Stark:Yeah, so, you know, I, I kind of bounced around,
Adam Stark:quite a bit throughout life.
Adam Stark:and I'm continuing to do so right, right before we, we joined the call.
Adam Stark:You asked if I'm still in New York city and I noted, as of very
Adam Stark:recently, I, I, relocated to St.
Adam Stark:Louis.
Adam Stark:so, glad to hear you had a good time in Chicago out here in the Midwest.
Todd Miller:I did, but you have to promise me that you won't become a St.
Todd Miller:Louis Cardinals fan.
Todd Miller:I'm not sure we could be friends if you are, but anyway, that's fine.
Todd Miller:I'm just kidding.
Adam Stark:Oh wait, but I got to know who's your, who's your team.
Todd Miller:Cincinnati Reds.
Adam Stark:Got it.
Adam Stark:Got it.
Adam Stark:We'll save that for the follow up part two of the show.
Adam Stark:So I have, you know, two, two, immigrants as parents.
Adam Stark:I was actually born in the U.
Adam Stark:S.
Adam Stark:and as I mentioned, bounced around quite a bit throughout life.
Adam Stark:And, you know, growing up, or spending time really in Israel, something to,
Adam Stark:to recognize that I think a lot of people might not realize is it's really
Adam Stark:the size of, of New Jersey, right?
Adam Stark:So it's a very small country.
Adam Stark:It's very new just in terms of its recent establishment.
Adam Stark:And it's a really neat environment to grow up in and experience
Adam Stark:and kind of embrace the culture.
Adam Stark:Reason being, one is there is a mandatory military service.
Adam Stark:So, you know, that doesn't mean that you have to go into combat.
Adam Stark:And it doesn't necessarily dictate what you do.
Adam Stark:Nonetheless, everyone who lives there, everyone who's a citizen has
Adam Stark:a requirement to serve, in, in the military in one, form or another.
Adam Stark:So it creates this, kind of central bond, I'll call it with everyone who's there
Adam Stark:because everyone will have some form of, you know, similar experience more or less
Adam Stark:through, you know, service of the country.
Adam Stark:that said, what it also really, in a really interesting way, it
Adam Stark:produces, is a entrepreneurial, kind of mindset and ecosystem.
Adam Stark:there's so many, you know, startups, mainly technology based that come out
Adam Stark:of, Israel or that have, you know, Tel Aviv, as a hub, for their business.
Todd Miller:That is really interesting.
Todd Miller:I never would have made that connection intuitively, but it makes a lot of sense.
Todd Miller:And, you know, as someone it's been a number of years, but I did
Todd Miller:visit Israel a number of years ago.
Todd Miller:And, you know, one of the things I obviously walked away from was, man,
Todd Miller:these guys know how to do security, better, better than anyone else.
Todd Miller:But, you know, a lot of that I'm sure is high tech stuff.
Todd Miller:So.
Todd Miller:so young adults start serving at the age of 18 and they're getting
Todd Miller:introduced to those types of things.
Todd Miller:how long is the service and, you know, what did you do and how did that time
Todd Miller:in the IDF and, by the way, IDF is, Israeli Defense Force, which, you know,
Todd Miller:we hear about in the news these days.
Todd Miller:And I think most U.
Todd Miller:S.
Todd Miller:folks don't have a clue what that really means.
Todd Miller:They just hear it.
Todd Miller:but love to hear a little bit more about what you did and, You
Todd Miller:know, again, how it did prepare you for what you're doing today.
Adam Stark:Absolutely.
Adam Stark:So they actually, they, meaning the Israeli government system
Adam Stark:have changed the requirement a few times over the past years.
Adam Stark:also since I, I served.
Adam Stark:and you know, during, during my time, it was a three year, mandatory,
Adam Stark:like meaning a three year minimum.
Adam Stark:Today it might be a little bit different, a few months, of difference if, if so.
Adam Stark:so I serve, the, the, the pipeline is a little bit different from that of the U.
Adam Stark:S.
Adam Stark:military.
Adam Stark:Again, mainly because of it, it being a mandatory service, which also,
Adam Stark:curates a mandatory, reserve duty.
Adam Stark:you know, for several years after your base service, that said,
Adam Stark:your pipeline to where you go, really starts from, from day one.
Adam Stark:So what I ended up doing was, special forces, airborne reconnaissance unit, out
Adam Stark:of the airborne, battalion, which is kind of a similar, service to like a ranger
Adam Stark:regiment or like a Marine, MARSOC recon.
Adam Stark:They pull from elements of both, you know, not being the same military.
Adam Stark:Obviously it's hard to give a literal one to one, but it's more or less,
Adam Stark:you know, that kind of a program.
Adam Stark:And like I mentioned, the pipeline is, you know, you, you, you go for qualification,
Adam Stark:if you make it, you continue during, you know, you continue in that path, so
Adam Stark:long as you continue to, you know, excel and get good grades per se through that
Adam Stark:pipeline, then you make it to the unit.
Adam Stark:And if not, then you drop to, a battalion or, you know, some,
Adam Stark:some other infantry, position.
Todd Miller:Very interesting.
Todd Miller:So that probably did give you some introduction to tech and things as well.
Todd Miller:I would imagine as part of that.
Adam Stark:Yeah, absolutely.
Adam Stark:I mean, you know, I think the, the principles behind a service kind of
Adam Stark:regardless of, you know, where you serve really, is the understanding and how to,
Adam Stark:one is collaborate with people, right?
Adam Stark:I mean, you're going to be joining up with people who you might otherwise have
Adam Stark:never interacted with, engaged with.
Adam Stark:You're likely going to be interacting with different.
Adam Stark:I'll call it departments, right?
Adam Stark:Of military, right?
Adam Stark:You're going to get plugins or plug into, other units or vice versa, right?
Adam Stark:For various reasons, various operations and purposes,
Adam Stark:various deployments, et cetera.
Adam Stark:with that, you're also, of course, learning how to leverage different, you
Adam Stark:know, technologies, weapon systems, how to be incredibly efficient with that, right?
Adam Stark:With, with whatever it is that you're using, reason being, same with the
Adam Stark:communication aspect, same with the scheduling aspect, same with
Adam Stark:the, you know, readiness aspect.
Adam Stark:Everything is on the extreme of, okay, well, if I mess something up, right, if
Adam Stark:I'm doing something that's not great, that's, you know, subpar, well, now all
Adam Stark:of a sudden my life could be in danger and or my team's life could be in danger.
Adam Stark:So, you really got to understand that concept, which, you know,
Adam Stark:is easy to understand in such settings, in deployment and such.
Adam Stark:and implement your day to day actions accordingly and how you,
Adam Stark:carry yourself generally speaking.
Adam Stark:So what I like to say, and, you know, we'll talk about this, when we get to
Adam Stark:the segment of, of the podcast, the show that, you know, we're creating
Adam Stark:here is a translatable skill, from military to, to a civilian life.
Adam Stark:So I just touched on some of those, the key factor in translating these skills
Adam Stark:is to recognize the, the, I don't know if I want to call it the Delta or just
Adam Stark:the, how do you migrate, you know, the extreme setting of military and implement
Adam Stark:that into, the relevant amount, right?
Adam Stark:The relevant doses of, you know, civilian professional life.
Todd Miller:Wow.
Todd Miller:Very interesting.
Todd Miller:That's cool stuff.
Todd Miller:And I can see that, how that all built into creating who you are today.
Todd Miller:And, you know, So I am going to back up a second.
Todd Miller:I did forget to tell our audience.
Todd Miller:I always forget this.
Todd Miller:We are doing challenge words this episode.
Todd Miller:So each one of us here on the show has been given a word by one of
Todd Miller:the others that we are challenged to work into conversation somehow.
Todd Miller:So our listening audience can try to figure out what those words are and we
Todd Miller:will say at the end, whether we were successful or not, but so, you know, after
Todd Miller:you, I assume it was fairly soon after you finished your time in the military, you
Todd Miller:ended up back here in the States, ended up working in real estate management and
Todd Miller:development and that was in New York City.
Todd Miller:Is that correct?
Todd Miller:How did that all happen?
Todd Miller:How did you get your introduction to that?
Todd Miller:It doesn't seem like something that someone just suddenly
Todd Miller:decides they're going to do one day and they're able to do it.
Adam Stark:Correct.
Adam Stark:Yes.
Adam Stark:Correct.
Adam Stark:So yeah, after I finished my service, I actually went to Boston first where I did
Adam Stark:my undergrad, Northeastern, great program.
Adam Stark:they have this, this co op, program function within the business
Adam Stark:school in particular that allows you to test different, work
Adam Stark:environments through your degree.
Adam Stark:So it's kind of an enforced inter internship program, which typically is
Adam Stark:actually paid, which is really nice.
Adam Stark:In that process, what I was recognizing is a few things.
Adam Stark:One is, you know, realizing that I've always, as a kid too, liked to build
Adam Stark:things like whether that be Lego, whether that be, you know, just, you know,
Adam Stark:wood, workshops, whether it be fixing things around the house, you name it.
Adam Stark:And the second part is I also really liked design.
Adam Stark:And the outcome of a design and kind of, I'm saying this in hindsight too.
Adam Stark:So it's not necessarily that, you know, in the moment I was able to pinpoint
Adam Stark:these things, but, basically what happened in terms of getting involved into real
Adam Stark:estate development and construction.
Adam Stark:Just right time, right place, just through networking, through these internships
Adam Stark:and such, you know, I was finishing with my, with my degree, there was an
Adam Stark:open position, at a, you know, a family office developer in New York City.
Adam Stark:and because of, you know, I guess, recognizing my interest in building,
Adam Stark:my interest in design, I figured, yeah, you know, why not test that, especially
Adam Stark:in a place like New York City, right, where, you know, real estate is, is
Adam Stark:kind of the core of what goes on there.
Todd Miller:Very cool.
Todd Miller:I'm glad you ended up in construction because you bring a lot to our industry.
Todd Miller:I mean, you could have gone to work at Tesla or something too, but, I'm glad
Todd Miller:you ended up here in construction.
Todd Miller:Your, your LinkedIn also talks something about photojournalism.
Todd Miller:Tell me a little bit about that.
Todd Miller:I'm kind of curious where that all ties in.
Todd Miller:You're, you're like a Renaissance man.
Todd Miller:I tell you, you do a little bit of everything.
Adam Stark:Yeah, you know, it's, it's a, it's a hobby of mine and I've
Adam Stark:had the opportunity to, photograph a few, weddings and, and, you know,
Adam Stark:kind of wedding related events, in a, in a more abstract kind of a way.
Adam Stark:I, I, I'm not really sure how exactly I got into it.
Adam Stark:I think it's just that, again, that dynamic of enjoying, design.
Adam Stark:Love to travel as well.
Adam Stark:I've traveled to quite a, quite a few places around the world and, I've
Adam Stark:done so alone many of times and kind of what I ended up picking up is just
Adam Stark:a camera and experiencing, you know, kind of, documenting, my travels.
Adam Stark:so very, very much a hobby.
Adam Stark:I love to kind of just engage with art in general.
Adam Stark:You know, I think since starting, since starting Jet Build, it's, it's
Adam Stark:definitely not, been as prevalent like in my life, it being, you
Adam Stark:know, photography, just because, entrepreneurship is all consuming.
Todd Miller:can attest to that..
Adam Stark:Correct, correct.
Adam Stark:But, nonetheless, I always, you know, I always tried to, go back, get
Adam Stark:back to the camera whenever I can, whether it be a short trip or, just
Adam Stark:really just walking around, the city.
Todd Miller:That's cool.
Todd Miller:That's a lot of fun.
Todd Miller:So as you started working with construction and development
Todd Miller:and redevelopment, what were some of the things that you saw?
Todd Miller:I mean, problems, challenges, inefficiencies, that kind of drove
Todd Miller:you to envision and, and then to go about creating jet.build.
Adam Stark:So if, if anyone is familiar with the, dynamic of family office, I
Adam Stark:think particularly in the Northeast, I mean, I could be wrong, but I've just
Adam Stark:seen that so many times, just, you know, by virtue of being in the ecosystem
Adam Stark:of, real estate in the Northeast, is what, what you end up having is small
Adam Stark:internal teams building significant, volume of construction of development.
Adam Stark:And I bring that up in particular to say, you know, I was in a.
Adam Stark:thankfully and gratefully in this awesome position where I was exposed
Adam Stark:to really all of the dynamics that exist in, you know, significant,
Adam Stark:high rise, mixed use, all types of development and construction projects.
Adam Stark:and in that position, in that scenario, you know, I was.
Adam Stark:Kind of this point person, representing the owner, working for the owner,
Adam Stark:but also sometimes self performing.
Adam Stark:So hiring trades, hiring GCs, hiring design teams, you know, hiring the,
Adam Stark:the administrative stuff, right?
Adam Stark:Like insurements, expediters, working with collaborating with the lender as well.
Adam Stark:So really, you know, information was having to flow through me.
Adam Stark:and then I would have to therefore delegate information
Adam Stark:in the best way possible and.
Adam Stark:It didn't take very long to recognize that without a platform to manage
Adam Stark:all of these parties, right?
Adam Stark:I mean, that's a that's a lot of people from a lot of different companies
Adam Stark:who otherwise are not connected outside of this project, right?
Adam Stark:so realizing that for example excel and email chain was not a great way
Adam Stark:of spending my time Right because i'd end up on a weekly basis Spending
Adam Stark:hours of collecting everybody's, you know, updates, feedback, information,
Adam Stark:comments, questions, consolidating that into one place and trying to
Adam Stark:issue it out all the time, whether that be an Excel document, you know,
Adam Stark:PDF, email chain, impossible, right?
Adam Stark:You're talking hundreds of millions of dollars worth of value.
Adam Stark:in, in projects, construction and assets and dozens of stakeholders.
Adam Stark:So, I mean, what's going on here, right?
Adam Stark:I mean, we have technologies exist to support us with less significant, right?
Adam Stark:Less significant functions, right?
Adam Stark:Significance, meaning just literal size, objective size or objective, dollar value.
Adam Stark:And that's when, of course, before, you know, spending, all of, all of,
Adam Stark:life building out a solution first went to, to the market to see what existed.
Adam Stark:to understand, all right, well, what can we adopt to help us do our jobs better?
Adam Stark:Recognize the legacy products that existed in the Market, got hit with,
Adam Stark:the, the price tag, which, quickly and, you know, immediately got rejected
Adam Stark:by the company I was working for.
Adam Stark:And my, my co founder, a long time friend, he's really a
Adam Stark:copy and paste version of me.
Adam Stark:He has the exact same story.
Adam Stark:And then that's when, that's when we just met up and said,
Adam Stark:all right, well, You know what?
Adam Stark:Why don't we, why don't we just figure this out?
Adam Stark:Like, why don't we just solve for this rather than, you know, continue
Adam Stark:on this path of, email and Excel and wasting hours of our time, you
Adam Stark:know, manual entry problems, lack of data retention, if at all, lack of
Adam Stark:data for, life cycle of that asset.
Adam Stark:Right.
Adam Stark:So for example, again, working for the owner, what happens at
Adam Stark:the end of a project, right?
Adam Stark:The, the data dump on Dropbox or SharePoint from a legacy
Adam Stark:product is not helpful.
Adam Stark:For whenever an issue occurs on your, on your asset, right.
Adam Stark:When it's a operational, right.
Adam Stark:So, you know, that, that's the data plug as well.
Adam Stark:Right.
Adam Stark:How are we going to leverage data to help us on the life cycle of the asset?
Adam Stark:Not only in the construction process.
Adam Stark:And that's, that was the inception of Jet, which really in reality occurred
Adam Stark:because of first and foremost, price point of existing legacy products.
Adam Stark:And second was also just the difficulty in understanding those products, right.
Adam Stark:We couldn't see the value in it against the price.
Todd Miller:You know, I see so many people that will delve into, you
Todd Miller:know, tech and an app or whatever, and they invest in it and they, they
Todd Miller:find it's just pretty overwhelming.
Todd Miller:I mean, you know, you, you have to spend so much time learning it and
Todd Miller:teaching your team and then holding them accountable to make sure they're using it.
Todd Miller:So, I love that you guys came out of, okay, we know the things
Todd Miller:that are too difficult sometimes, how can we, make them simpler?
Todd Miller:So I'm curious, you talk a little bit about, AI and how
Todd Miller:it, works within your platform.
Todd Miller:Tell us a little bit about some of the things maybe that, you're doing
Todd Miller:through AI to help your clients.
Adam Stark:Absolutely.
Adam Stark:So I always like to start off with, separating, the two buckets of AI,
Adam Stark:as I like to, you know, call it, one bucket is, the Boston Dynamics, for
Adam Stark:example, robot that is, you know, building buildings or trying to, right.
Adam Stark:I'm putting that aside.
Adam Stark:The jet.build version of AI is administrative support, right?
Adam Stark:So it's the Chat GPT type where you can really just start leveraging it today.
Adam Stark:so for, you know, literal functionality in terms of what we've implemented in
Adam Stark:particular, for example, that's, AI, scope of work, SOW creation, right?
Adam Stark:Based on your budget line item.
Adam Stark:It's things like, scheduling overlays to understand, you know,
Adam Stark:if you're behind on, on schedule or, you know, ahead of schedule.
Adam Stark:Same thing for things like, specifications or drawing overlays to understand
Adam Stark:what has been added or removed.
Adam Stark:So it really, a lot of administrative, support, what ends up happening as
Adam Stark:well, and I think you've mentioned this in, in the introduction, so
Adam Stark:thank you for, for calling that out is, the more data that you can retain
Adam Stark:in a in an indexed format, right?
Adam Stark:So you need a platform to retain data Excel is not going to do this for
Adam Stark:you The more data you retain the the more insights, more reporting that
Adam Stark:can be produced in a AI capacity.
Adam Stark:So what what could that mean?
Adam Stark:It's predictive analytics.
Adam Stark:It's just really reading, you know through your data and giving you an answer
Adam Stark:exactly like chat gbt is doing Right?
Adam Stark:And it's doing that by consolidating You amassments of data, reading it
Adam Stark:real quick for you and addressing whatever you've asked it.
Adam Stark:So that, that's the kind of AI that we're focused on.
Todd Miller:You know, it's funny.
Todd Miller:I mentioned earlier the meetings I was at this week and the last time
Todd Miller:we met was just six months ago.
Todd Miller:And at those meetings, someone came and talked to us about AI
Todd Miller:and, you know, even just Chat GPT.
Todd Miller:And, you know, most of the people there was just, wow, they just blew away.
Todd Miller:They had nothing, knew nothing about it.
Todd Miller:Well, this meeting just six months later, I don't think there was a person in the
Todd Miller:room who didn't say that, yeah, I'm using some form of AI today, six months later.
Todd Miller:So, yeah, the potential there is just tremendous.
Todd Miller:So I, I admire you guys for integrating it.
Todd Miller:kind of curious, how does a company out there get started with, Jet?
Todd Miller:You know, what does that process look like?
Adam Stark:Totally.
Adam Stark:So, you know, we have two versions of getting started.
Adam Stark:One is literally an off the shelf, product where you go on our website, jet.
Adam Stark:build, you know, grab a license and just start rolling with your project.
Adam Stark:We have, dozens of clients who have actually done that.
Adam Stark:which is really awesome to realize, right?
Adam Stark:Cause what we're seeing in that, in that concept is kind
Adam Stark:of the shift in understanding of technology in our industry, right?
Adam Stark:So rather than the traditional mindset where it's this, you know, elongated
Adam Stark:onboarding process and you know, teams need hours or weeks or months to
Adam Stark:understand how to leverage tools, right.
Adam Stark:For their projects.
Adam Stark:Well, what we're seeing now, literally, because it's already happened to
Adam Stark:us dozens of times is, you know, clients will go on our website, start
Adam Stark:a project, we'll reach out and say, hey, you know, thanks for joining.
Adam Stark:How's your project going?
Adam Stark:Do you need any help?
Adam Stark:Etc.
Adam Stark:Nah, we're good.
Adam Stark:And they just, they, you know, continue rolling on with their project.
Adam Stark:So it's really cool to see.
Adam Stark:Yeah.
Ethan Young:Yeah, that's, that's special.
Adam Stark:Yeah.
Adam Stark:now the other side, and I'll, you know, say also, you know, you
Adam Stark:know, full transparency, those are relatively smaller projects, right?
Adam Stark:So those aren't a hundred million dollar projects, which, you know,
Adam Stark:rightfully so that, that makes sense.
Adam Stark:Now for the larger projects, even so what, what ends up happening is
Adam Stark:we'll have a, you know, like a 45 to an hour, long onboarding, and
Adam Stark:introduction and training session.
Adam Stark:And that typically starts with the, you know, core team, who's the license holder.
Adam Stark:Then from there, depending on how the client wants to interact, we'll either
Adam Stark:schedule weekly or biweekly follow ups for about a month or two months.
Adam Stark:Also again, 40, 40 minute calls, each of those.
Adam Stark:where we'll continue to scale their project.
Adam Stark:And really the reason for that is, you know, the, the initial phase is to say,
Adam Stark:okay, here's your initial drawings.
Adam Stark:We'll onboard the initial teams that exist so far in this project.
Adam Stark:And then as more teams get onboarded to the project's life cycle, that's
Adam Stark:when we're, you know, onboarding new people, essentially new information.
Adam Stark:From there and what's really neat about the kind of, the combining support
Adam Stark:with the product is what we'll do is we'll take feedback from our clients,
Adam Stark:whether that be, you know, missing a report, whether that be, you know,
Adam Stark:their, realization that a nuance to a solution can be better because, you know,
Adam Stark:they're the ones literally operating.
Adam Stark:So we'll, we'll understand that as a team, because again, you know,
Adam Stark:our backgrounds are literally.
Adam Stark:You know, my business partner is a civil engineer by trade.
Adam Stark:Both of us spent over a decade on construction sites.
Adam Stark:We've literally ourselves coded the product.
Adam Stark:So when we encourage feedback and when we hear from clients, it's really easy for us
Adam Stark:to one, envision, first of all, understand what they're saying, two envision how
Adam Stark:it gets implemented on the product.
Adam Stark:And three, give them a real timeline of implementation, which, you know,
Adam Stark:we range from like an hour to, I mean, the longest something has taken,
Adam Stark:I think is three weeks, but really that's just because priority lists
Adam Stark:rather than actual time to implement.
Adam Stark:So people are really, pleasantly surprised with one, our, you know,
Adam Stark:desire for their feedback and two, the turnaround to implement that feedback.
Adam Stark:so that's really the two, two processes is, you know, generally speaking,
Adam Stark:it's really an hour of onboarding because the recurring calls are
Adam Stark:usually with different teams, you know, as they're onboarded to projects,
Todd Miller:That's amazing and everything you say there is just,
Todd Miller:I think, music to everyone's ears because I think a lot of folks have
Todd Miller:gone the route of trying to implement us, you know, software or something.
Todd Miller:And, you know, one of the things you often find is those people trying to help
Todd Miller:you don't even understand the software
Adam Stark:Right.
Todd Miller:and so that's, that's an awesome story you have there.
Todd Miller:Any success stories or client comments that come to mind that you can share
Todd Miller:with our audience, from, you know, folks who have implemented, JET?
Adam Stark:Yeah, absolutely.
Adam Stark:So, you know, there's, I'll give it two different like buckets of stories.
Adam Stark:One is, really simplicity of it's really what I was just describing
Adam Stark:right simplicity of use and the support that we provide our clients, which is
Adam Stark:also, you know, it's collaborative, meaning the client has to want to, you
Adam Stark:know, engage with us so that we can support them better, in their process.
Adam Stark:So, we have some clients that, I find this to be really neat where, you know, we went
Adam Stark:through the typical onboarding process.
Adam Stark:They have a handful of projects that are all significant in, in
Adam Stark:construction, value and volume.
Adam Stark:And what they started to do is just simply reach out to us when
Adam Stark:they noticed, you know, hey, what about a report for this solution?
Adam Stark:That would be really helpful for my process, right?
Adam Stark:So now they're just realized at this point.
Adam Stark:You know, they can just ask for a solution.
Adam Stark:We'll embrace it and implement it because we understand it makes sense, right?
Adam Stark:Obviously if we have a question we ask a question, but I find that to
Adam Stark:be really cool where you know, we don't have to engage clients anymore
Adam Stark:Rather they just know to reach out and ask for ask for something if
Adam Stark:there's an area where we can improve.
Adam Stark:Now the second piece that I find, really really cool as well.
Adam Stark:And this this is going to be um, a hot take on, on industry where,
Adam Stark:you know, you have a lot of legacy products who, who claim innovation
Adam Stark:and claim technology, but they're also all consuming in budget, right?
Adam Stark:Their price points are, uh, egregious, and they are compounding year Over year,
Adam Stark:they audit accounts, et cetera, et cetera.
Adam Stark:So it's really tough for companies to innovate because they're
Adam Stark:locked up with their core product.
Adam Stark:On one solution.
Adam Stark:So there are two companies, two clients in particular who have since, you
Adam Stark:know, migrated off of those legacy products and onto, onto JetBuild,
Adam Stark:which has freed up space in terms of, you know, technology budget or,
Adam Stark:you know, willingness to actually innovate and leverage other products.
Adam Stark:And we've, you know, essentially provided them with the core platform,
Adam Stark:which is jet to go to the market, right?
Adam Stark:And absorb a few other solutions that were really helpful for
Adam Stark:them, like drone imaging or just, you know, site, image capture,
Adam Stark:generally speaking, AI for safety.
Adam Stark:so that's that's been really neat as well.
Todd Miller:You know, I, again, I love that and music to my ears.
Todd Miller:I mean, hearing a software company that is responsive and, you know, wants to
Todd Miller:grow that way because of information from clients is pretty unique.
Todd Miller:So I, I do want to switch gears a little bit.
Todd Miller:something caught my eye.
Todd Miller:Your LinkedIn profile says you are a master practitioner of shalosh.
Todd Miller:I hope I'm pronouncing that right, which was something I had never heard of before.
Todd Miller:Sounds pretty incredible.
Todd Miller:Can you tell our audience a little bit about, uh, shalosh and the,
Todd Miller:the impact it has on your life?
Adam Stark:Yeah, that's, you pronounced it 90 percent correct, which is
Todd Miller:90%.
Todd Miller:Ah, 10 percent's a killer.
Adam Stark:Yeah, so it's called, uh, Shalosh, which is, again, you were,
Adam Stark:I mean, maybe it was even more than 90 percent is what you, what you got.
Adam Stark:So that's Hebrew for the number three.
Adam Stark:and, that's my essentially wellness philosophy.
Adam Stark:wellness practice, you know, leveraging my own experience of, you know, sports,
Adam Stark:special forces, military career, a 500 hour certified yoga instructor,
Adam Stark:and really just merging all of these, you know, different things that I've
Adam Stark:experienced and gone through my life, into how I practice wellness day to day.
Adam Stark:And Shalosh, like the number three stands for the three pillars of which I practice.
Adam Stark:and that is, you know, mental wellness, physical fitness and nutrition.
Todd Miller:So that, uh, keeps you at peak performance at all times.
Todd Miller:Then hopefully,
Adam Stark:It, it does and, you know, what, what, what tends to,
Adam Stark:I don't even know how to word it, but tends to, like, be, be missed
Adam Stark:is, it's, it's not easy, right?
Adam Stark:It's, even for someone dedicated day to day, it doesn't mean
Adam Stark:that it's easy day to day.
Adam Stark:And that's what it's about though.
Adam Stark:It's, it's, it's recognizing that it's not easy, recognizing that.
Adam Stark:you know, things won't always be the same for you, whether that be
Adam Stark:mental, physical, you know, nutrition wise, and it's about how do you
Adam Stark:fluctuate, and maintain consistency.
Adam Stark:Cause that's, what's most important.
Todd Miller:Do you find, as you are able to, you know, consistently practice
Todd Miller:that discipline, whatever it might be in one area of your life, that it kind of
Todd Miller:allows you to do it in other areas also?
Todd Miller:I mean, it seems like an undisciplined life is undisciplined
Todd Miller:in all areas and a disciplined life is disciplined in all areas.
Todd Miller:Is that kind of what you find also?
Adam Stark:Yeah.
Adam Stark:I mean, you know, mind you, you're, you're obviously asking, someone with, you
Adam Stark:know, a, a extreme per se, perspective, coming with, with military background.
Adam Stark:But, I mean, you know, I'm, I'm at a point where if I don't.
Adam Stark:if I'm not able to commit at least some, some amount of time to, to my daily
Adam Stark:routine, which is, you know, really the, the, the mental and physical element,
Adam Stark:I'll feel it, I'll feel it during that day, in a, in a negative way.
Adam Stark:So my answer is unequivocally yes, and, and it's really important to me,
Adam Stark:and how I just function day to day.
Todd Miller:Very good.
Todd Miller:Well, I don't know where you find time for everything, Adam, but, you also
Todd Miller:have a podcast, as we mentioned earlier, called The Veterans Who Build Show.
Todd Miller:Tell us a little bit about that.
Adam Stark:Yeah.
Adam Stark:So, you know, I want to give a shout out to the Sean Ryan show.
Adam Stark:For those that are listening, if you're familiar with it, he, he's Sean Ryan.
Adam Stark:He he's, like a top five podcast at this point.
Adam Stark:I caught on to his show about a year ago, maybe, maybe a little bit less
Adam Stark:even, and I've just been, I mean, I've been hooked on, on the stories.
Adam Stark:It's, it's really just, providing a platform for veterans
Adam Stark:to speak their life story.
Adam Stark:And it's been incredibly helpful for me to, to hear.
Adam Stark:In, in a way that, you know, I wasn't aware that this would, this
Adam Stark:would happen to me by any means.
Adam Stark:However, just hearing other veterans talk their stories, their hardships,
Adam Stark:what they're doing, you know, now, how they've got, gone through hardships
Adam Stark:and realizing that I was applying that to myself with things that I wasn't
Adam Stark:even necessarily like consciously aware of, which was, it's funny to say.
Adam Stark:And that was just actually what was happened to me, what happens to me
Adam Stark:when I listened to these stories.
Adam Stark:So that, that started, you know, kind of like percolating in my head, right?
Adam Stark:I was thinking like, Oh, this, this is interesting.
Adam Stark:Like that this is happening to me.
Adam Stark:And the second is just, you know, realizing myself and my own story that,
Adam Stark:you know, the built environment in general is, an incredible like segue
Adam Stark:for veterans, you know, finishing military and looking for a profession
Adam Stark:for, multitude of reasons, some of which I, you know, described before
Adam Stark:that, you know, environment where you're working with different, different
Adam Stark:people, different companies, you're on a, you know, physical kind of, you
Adam Stark:know, situation and outcome, right?
Adam Stark:You're building, you have a tangible outcome, and whatever, a lot of
Adam Stark:different other different reasons.
Adam Stark:So, kind of just recognizing that or being in this space and then listening
Adam Stark:to Sean Ryan show, I eventually just pieced these things together, and had
Adam Stark:this aha moment like, okay, well, this is, this is an awesome opportunity
Adam Stark:to, provide, kind of both of those things in an emerged capacity, right?
Adam Stark:So the purpose of the show is.
Adam Stark:to create this roadmap for, veterans or, you know, our military personnel
Adam Stark:that it's actively enlisted, right?
Adam Stark:The roadmap is transition period from, military to civilian, which
Adam Stark:is just a very difficult thing.
Adam Stark:and then the second is to discuss translatable skills,
Adam Stark:military to, profession in the built environment in particular.
Adam Stark:And when I say built environment, I mean, it's pretty broad, sweep in.
Adam Stark:So that's anything from like commercial real estate to, of course, contractors
Adam Stark:and trades, site operators to, you know, technology in the space.
Adam Stark:So anything that has to do with built environment.
Adam Stark:And the way that the show functions is it's kind of, just a platform for
Adam Stark:veterans to share their story, where we go from, you know, childhood through
Adam Stark:enlistment, through transition, into the built environment, you know, with
Adam Stark:that key element of roadmap, you know, transition period and translatable skills.
Todd Miller:Very neat.
Todd Miller:Well, I am going to be sure to check it out.
Todd Miller:I haven't had a chance to yet.
Todd Miller:But, anxious to hear some of those stories.
Todd Miller:So again, that's called The Veterans Who Build Show, and we
Todd Miller:encourage folks to check that out.
Todd Miller:Well, Adam, you have had a fascinating life and you still
Todd Miller:got lots of life ahead of you.
Todd Miller:and I love how, you know, a common theme in your life that I keep hearing is.
Todd Miller:You know, really wanting to help others and wanting to share with others
Todd Miller:and and help to bolster their lives.
Todd Miller:So this has been great, our time has flown by.
Todd Miller:We're kind of close to wrapping up what we call the business end of things.
Todd Miller:Is there anything we haven't covered yet today that you wanted to be sure to share?
Adam Stark:No, my, my two, you know, key plugs here on any show
Adam Stark:or really anything I'd like to talk about it, we touched on, right.
Adam Stark:We have, JetBuild and we have, The Veterans Who Build Show.
Adam Stark:so, yeah, appreciate you asking.
Todd Miller:Awesome.
Todd Miller:Thank you so much.
Todd Miller:Well, before we do close out, I'm going to ask you if you're willing
Todd Miller:to participate in something we call our rapid fire questions.
Todd Miller:So these are 7 questions.
Todd Miller:Some may be serious.
Todd Miller:Some may be more silly.
Todd Miller:All you have to do is give a response and, you would be our
Todd Miller:first person to turn us down.
Todd Miller:So I have to ask you the pressures on.
Todd Miller:Are you willing to, participate in rapid fire?
Adam Stark:Very well in.
Todd Miller:It's always fun.
Todd Miller:Well, Ethan and I can alternate asking questions.
Todd Miller:Would you like to ask the first question, Ethan?
Ethan Young:Yeah, I can do that.
Ethan Young:Um, what's one thing that you don't think you could, or let me say, what's one
Ethan Young:thing you'd say you can't live without?
Adam Stark:My morning routine.
Todd Miller:Gosh, that is not an answer most people would
Todd Miller:probably have to that question.
Todd Miller:That's awesome though.
Todd Miller:Question two.
Todd Miller:If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would
Todd Miller:you choose to have dinner with?
Adam Stark:I'm gonna go, I'm, you know what, I'm just gonna go like really
Adam Stark:biblical here and say King David.
Adam Stark:I wanna, I wanna know what his, you know, one to one, what his life was about.
Todd Miller:That'd be cool.
Todd Miller:That'd be cool.
Ethan Young:Very much so.
Ethan Young:what's your, what's your biggest pet peeve?
Adam Stark:This is a good one.
Adam Stark:This is a really good one.
Adam Stark:So, uh, uh, I like to run.
Adam Stark:so I run, you know, typically in a park now at, in New York city, I
Adam Stark:used to live next to central park.
Adam Stark:Now I'm in St.
Adam Stark:Louis.
Adam Stark:I live right next to the forest park.
Adam Stark:And my pet peeve is definitely, you know, there, there typically are paths
Adam Stark:for like, you know, running, walking, or there's a site, whatever, when, when
Adam Stark:people are walking and they, they see you.
Adam Stark:And they're taking up the entirety of, you know, like a running path or
Adam Stark:a bike path, whatever, and then they don't move when you're getting closer.
Adam Stark:And that's, that, that's my pet peeve.
Todd Miller:I'm moving faster than you.
Todd Miller:I thought you were going to say when people threw chewing gum on
Todd Miller:the path or something like that.
Todd Miller:Question number four.
Todd Miller:What was your favorite childhood toy or game?
Adam Stark:Oh, definitely.
Adam Stark:Definitely Legos.
Todd Miller:Uh, that's that whole build thing and create and very cool.
Ethan Young:Ties in perfect.
Ethan Young:Um, I guess you already said you've traveled a lot of places, but there,
Ethan Young:is there like another place that's on your bucket list that you haven't
Ethan Young:been on to, or haven't been to yet?
Adam Stark:Yeah, I mean, I kind of have like the, the, the world
Adam Stark:meaning the balance of places.
Adam Stark:I haven't been on my bucket list, but, I guess top, top few right now.
Adam Stark:First would would be Vietnam, I think.
Adam Stark:that, that's number one.
Adam Stark:yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with Vietnam.
Adam Stark:That's, that's my, that's my next like destination that
Adam Stark:I'm, that I'm hoping to get to.
Ethan Young:Yeah, very cool.
Todd Miller:Next to last question.
Todd Miller:It sounds like you're kind of a sports guy.
Todd Miller:What is your favorite sport to watch?
Adam Stark:You, you know what's really funny is I, I used to, I used to be so,
Adam Stark:you know, avid into sports like watching everything that was going on and over the
Adam Stark:past probably five, six years, I really just dropped off to like, all right,
Adam Stark:the back end of playoffs of sports.
Adam Stark:I love to, to physically, physically go to, to really any game, any sport.
Adam Stark:I find that to always be just a fun environment, even regardless of, of the
Adam Stark:teams, Favorite sport to watch though, it would, would still be, and I think
Adam Stark:traditionally for me has been football.
Adam Stark:So American football.
Todd Miller:Okay.
Todd Miller:Good answer.
Ethan Young:Uh, last one.
Ethan Young:Is there a product or service that you've purchased recently
Ethan Young:That's you've kind of been like, where has this been all my life?
Ethan Young:You know, this is a game changer.
Adam Stark:That's a good one.
Adam Stark:Um, uh, wow.
Adam Stark:I probably do.
Adam Stark:Oh, yes.
Adam Stark:Great.
Adam Stark:I got it is an instant pot.
Adam Stark:So what that is, is I like to cook most of my meals.
Adam Stark:and it's a pressure cooker.
Adam Stark:So it kind of, you know, creates a, static temperature
Adam Stark:and the entirety of the device.
Adam Stark:So it cooks things quicker, and with, you know, one pot versus
Adam Stark:having, you know, let's say if you're making like rice and, and meat and
Adam Stark:vegetables, you could literally just throw everything in there, press one
Adam Stark:button and it cooks it, amazingly.
Adam Stark:so that, that's my, that's definitely my answer.
Ethan Young:Nice.
Todd Miller:Good answer.
Todd Miller:And kind of reminds me, I have to talk to my wife.
Todd Miller:We have to get ours out.
Todd Miller:We haven't used it in a while.
Todd Miller:She's always kind of freaking out I'm going to blow up the kitchen with it or
Todd Miller:something like, no, no, that won't happen.
Todd Miller:It'll be okay.
Adam Stark:Yeah, you'll be good.
Todd Miller:Well, thank you again, Adam.
Todd Miller:this has been a pleasure.
Todd Miller:Really enjoyed getting to know you and hearing about, JetBuild
Todd Miller:and, and all the other things and your podcast and everything.
Todd Miller:for folks who may want to get in touch with you or to follow,
Todd Miller:JetBuild and what you're doing there.
Todd Miller:give us some ways they can do that.
Adam Stark:Yeah, absolutely.
Adam Stark:So, Jet Build's website is jet.build, so, the .build is
Adam Stark:in place of .com, for example.
Adam Stark:So jet.Build, for Jet.
Adam Stark:For me personally, I'm, I'm active on LinkedIn.
Adam Stark:you'll find me Adam Stark.
Adam Stark:Umm, not sure what happens actually when you search Adam
Adam Stark:Stark, like if other ones come up.
Adam Stark:But, if you see Adam , Adam Stark Jet, Jet Build, that'll, that'll probably work.
Adam Stark:And then the veterans who build show is on, you know, any platform that you're
Adam Stark:listening to, for podcasts or content.
Adam Stark:So we're on, you know, YouTube, Apple podcasts, Spotify, and we
Adam Stark:also throw on shorts, on, Instagram and, and Facebook and Twitter.
Todd Miller:Very good.
Todd Miller:Well, we will put links in the show notes as well.
Todd Miller:So folks can easily find you, and you were easy to find on LinkedIn also.
Todd Miller:So that would, again, just Adam Stark and Jet Build and you'll find them.
Todd Miller:Well, thank you very much.
Todd Miller:It's been a real pleasure.
Todd Miller:did, did any of us, Oh, I got my challenge word in.
Todd Miller:Yeah.
Todd Miller:Did you guys get your challenge words in?
Ethan Young:Nah, I did not.
Adam Stark:Yeah, I was, it was, it was on my mind a handful of times, but, Each
Adam Stark:time it came up, I was thinking, I mean, this would, this would just be too silly.
Adam Stark:Like I know when I had the opportunity, I realized I missed
Adam Stark:it though, but congrats to you.
Adam Stark:You, you, you win the, you win the award.
Todd Miller:Well, I had the word Tesla that I, yeah, I was able to work that in.
Todd Miller:But, Ethan, your word.
Todd Miller:was that you didn't use.
Ethan Young:Yeah, mine was Windex.
Ethan Young:I, I, I was gonna do something with like the whole like maybe window washing
Ethan Young:or skyscraper kind of thing with New York, but I feel like that was just too
Ethan Young:much of a stretch and then I couldn't figure out any other way to put it in.
Todd Miller:I thought maybe when you asked, Adam, if he, you know,
Todd Miller:had discovered any new products, you'd say, you know, I just
Todd Miller:discovered Windex the other day.
Todd Miller:And yeah,
Adam Stark:It, it, it crossed my, it crossed my mind.
Adam Stark:a few, a few, a few opportunities crossed my mind, but I had the same kind of like,
Adam Stark:it's too, it's too much of a stretch.
Adam Stark:Like, come on.
Ethan Young:just felt like a stretch
Adam Stark:Yeah.
Todd Miller:and Adam, your word was covert, right?
Todd Miller:See, see, you were so good at it.
Todd Miller:No one even knew it.
Todd Miller:So.
Ethan Young:Yeah.
Adam Stark:I used it.
Adam Stark:Maybe I didn't.
Todd Miller:There you go.
Todd Miller:There you go.
Todd Miller:Uh, that's been great.
Todd Miller:Thank you so much for joining us.
Todd Miller:Appreciate it.
Adam Stark:Thanks so much for having me on the show, guys.
Adam Stark:I really appreciate the opportunity to share, you know, my story and what
Adam Stark:I'm working on through your platform.
Adam Stark:It means a lot.
Adam Stark:Thank you.
Todd Miller:Thank you and thank you to our audience for tuning in to this very
Todd Miller:special episode of construction disruption with Adam Stark of jet.build, please
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Todd Miller:Have a positive impact on those around you.
Todd Miller:Do whatever you can to just smile or encourage them.
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Todd Miller:So, God bless and take care.
Todd Miller:This is Isaiah Industries signing off until the next episode
Todd Miller:of Construction Disruption.