Todd Miller:

I'm Todd Miller of Isaiah Industries, manufacturer

Todd Miller:

of specialty metal roofing and other building materials.

Todd Miller:

Today, my co host is Ethan Young.

Todd Miller:

Ethan, welcome to the show.

Todd Miller:

How are you doing?

Ethan Young:

Thanks Todd.

Ethan Young:

I'm doing pretty good, honestly.

Ethan Young:

How you doing?

Todd Miller:

I am doing well also.

Todd Miller:

So, as you know, I was up in Chicago this week for Metal Construction Association,

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metal roofing alliance, trade meetings.

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And, that was a lot of fun.

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It's always fun to connect with, colleagues and, kind of talk, shop a

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little bit and learn about the industry.

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But, we did have a couple of neat speakers, at the, main conference.

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One of them talked a lot about how to build.

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build strategy and planning into your business.

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And so I'm anxious to delve into that a little bit.

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we may even have some meetings here at work about it.

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Can you believe that?

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and then we also talked quite a bit about some of the industry statistics that

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are starting to come out that have been collected through 2023 and, kind of cool.

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We're seeing continued growth of metal and pretty much all segments, of construction.

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And so the future certainly seems to be bright, lots going on out there

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and, still lots more people getting involved, jumping on the metal bandwagon.

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So that was a lot of fun.

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A lot of fun.

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Anyone wants to check out.

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those organizations?

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It is Metal Roofing Alliance at metalroofing.com and Metal Construction

Todd Miller:

Association at metalconstruction.org.

Todd Miller:

So you good to go?

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Ethan?

Todd Miller:

Let's do this.

Ethan Young:

we're all ready.

Todd Miller:

Very good.

Todd Miller:

So as we go into the future of construction and, really not just

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construction management, but all types of management, I think we're clearly

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seeing in today's world how important efficiency and productivity, are now and

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how much more important they will be.

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in the future.

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It seems like all industries are finding themselves having to try to do more

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with fewer people and tighter resources.

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A lot of times of all kinds, finding ways to speed things up, but still

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maintain that focus on customer delight and quality and all those good things.

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Just seems like the stakes in all areas keep increasing and As technology

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sort of propels us into the future.

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I really think that, trend is going to continue.

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but the good thing is, and we see this, the companies that get that all

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figured out quickly find ways to elevate themselves above their competition.

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Well, today's guest is someone with a very unique background, and we're going

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to dig into his background a little bit, but he and his business partner have

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used their experience in construction project management to develop a solution

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to the demands that they were facing in their work, a solution that they now make

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available through their own internet.

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development, which is called Jet dot build.

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Jet dot build streamlines real estate development and construction management

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with simplified software that utilizes A.

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I.

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This powerful tool empowers project stakeholders with centralized command

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operations, management, project, accounting, stakeholder collaboration,

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communications and data retention again with AI insights coming into all of that.

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So our guest today is Adam Stark, and he's going to share with us a bit

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about his life and the platform that they've built that other companies

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are now using every day, and on every project to benefit themselves.

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But we're also going to learn a little bit about a podcast he has put together

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called The veterans Who Build Show.

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So I'm anxious for that as well.

Todd Miller:

Adam Stark, welcome to construction disruption.

Todd Miller:

Pleasure to have you here today.

Adam Stark:

Thanks so much for having me and, you know, what,

Adam Stark:

what an awesome introduction.

Adam Stark:

I really, really appreciate, all, you know, those kind words and, and

Adam Stark:

really the plug into both the business side and, the, you know, community

Adam Stark:

development, I'll call it side with, the veterans who built you out of

Adam Stark:

the podcast that, we've just started.

Adam Stark:

Thank you.

Todd Miller:

That's cool.

Todd Miller:

Well, we want to hear about all of that.

Todd Miller:

And I know you.

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and I had the opportunity to speak a few weeks ago and I quickly said, Yeah,

Todd Miller:

there's, there's a great story here and some great things and great insights.

Todd Miller:

So looking forward to talking more.

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so, I'd love to kind of start out, a little bit with your own story,

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that ultimately allowed you to end up where you are today with jet.build.

Todd Miller:

You grew up in Israel, would love to hear a little bit about that, but I'm

Todd Miller:

curious, I mean, growing up in Israel, did you ever think you'd end up here

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in the States as a business owner?

Todd Miller:

So how did that all transpire?

Adam Stark:

Yeah, so, you know, I, I kind of bounced around,

Adam Stark:

quite a bit throughout life.

Adam Stark:

and I'm continuing to do so right, right before we, we joined the call.

Adam Stark:

You asked if I'm still in New York city and I noted, as of very

Adam Stark:

recently, I, I, relocated to St.

Adam Stark:

Louis.

Adam Stark:

so, glad to hear you had a good time in Chicago out here in the Midwest.

Todd Miller:

I did, but you have to promise me that you won't become a St.

Todd Miller:

Louis Cardinals fan.

Todd Miller:

I'm not sure we could be friends if you are, but anyway, that's fine.

Todd Miller:

I'm just kidding.

Adam Stark:

Oh wait, but I got to know who's your, who's your team.

Todd Miller:

Cincinnati Reds.

Adam Stark:

Got it.

Adam Stark:

Got it.

Adam Stark:

We'll save that for the follow up part two of the show.

Adam Stark:

So I have, you know, two, two, immigrants as parents.

Adam Stark:

I was actually born in the U.

Adam Stark:

S.

Adam Stark:

and as I mentioned, bounced around quite a bit throughout life.

Adam Stark:

And, you know, growing up, or spending time really in Israel, something to,

Adam Stark:

to recognize that I think a lot of people might not realize is it's really

Adam Stark:

the size of, of New Jersey, right?

Adam Stark:

So it's a very small country.

Adam Stark:

It's very new just in terms of its recent establishment.

Adam Stark:

And it's a really neat environment to grow up in and experience

Adam Stark:

and kind of embrace the culture.

Adam Stark:

Reason being, one is there is a mandatory military service.

Adam Stark:

So, you know, that doesn't mean that you have to go into combat.

Adam Stark:

And it doesn't necessarily dictate what you do.

Adam Stark:

Nonetheless, everyone who lives there, everyone who's a citizen has

Adam Stark:

a requirement to serve, in, in the military in one, form or another.

Adam Stark:

So it creates this, kind of central bond, I'll call it with everyone who's there

Adam Stark:

because everyone will have some form of, you know, similar experience more or less

Adam Stark:

through, you know, service of the country.

Adam Stark:

that said, what it also really, in a really interesting way, it

Adam Stark:

produces, is a entrepreneurial, kind of mindset and ecosystem.

Adam Stark:

there's so many, you know, startups, mainly technology based that come out

Adam Stark:

of, Israel or that have, you know, Tel Aviv, as a hub, for their business.

Todd Miller:

That is really interesting.

Todd Miller:

I never would have made that connection intuitively, but it makes a lot of sense.

Todd Miller:

And, you know, as someone it's been a number of years, but I did

Todd Miller:

visit Israel a number of years ago.

Todd Miller:

And, you know, one of the things I obviously walked away from was, man,

Todd Miller:

these guys know how to do security, better, better than anyone else.

Todd Miller:

But, you know, a lot of that I'm sure is high tech stuff.

Todd Miller:

So.

Todd Miller:

so young adults start serving at the age of 18 and they're getting

Todd Miller:

introduced to those types of things.

Todd Miller:

how long is the service and, you know, what did you do and how did that time

Todd Miller:

in the IDF and, by the way, IDF is, Israeli Defense Force, which, you know,

Todd Miller:

we hear about in the news these days.

Todd Miller:

And I think most U.

Todd Miller:

S.

Todd Miller:

folks don't have a clue what that really means.

Todd Miller:

They just hear it.

Todd Miller:

but love to hear a little bit more about what you did and, You

Todd Miller:

know, again, how it did prepare you for what you're doing today.

Adam Stark:

Absolutely.

Adam Stark:

So they actually, they, meaning the Israeli government system

Adam Stark:

have changed the requirement a few times over the past years.

Adam Stark:

also since I, I served.

Adam Stark:

and you know, during, during my time, it was a three year, mandatory,

Adam Stark:

like meaning a three year minimum.

Adam Stark:

Today it might be a little bit different, a few months, of difference if, if so.

Adam Stark:

so I serve, the, the, the pipeline is a little bit different from that of the U.

Adam Stark:

S.

Adam Stark:

military.

Adam Stark:

Again, mainly because of it, it being a mandatory service, which also,

Adam Stark:

curates a mandatory, reserve duty.

Adam Stark:

you know, for several years after your base service, that said,

Adam Stark:

your pipeline to where you go, really starts from, from day one.

Adam Stark:

So what I ended up doing was, special forces, airborne reconnaissance unit, out

Adam Stark:

of the airborne, battalion, which is kind of a similar, service to like a ranger

Adam Stark:

regiment or like a Marine, MARSOC recon.

Adam Stark:

They pull from elements of both, you know, not being the same military.

Adam Stark:

Obviously it's hard to give a literal one to one, but it's more or less,

Adam Stark:

you know, that kind of a program.

Adam Stark:

And like I mentioned, the pipeline is, you know, you, you, you go for qualification,

Adam Stark:

if you make it, you continue during, you know, you continue in that path, so

Adam Stark:

long as you continue to, you know, excel and get good grades per se through that

Adam Stark:

pipeline, then you make it to the unit.

Adam Stark:

And if not, then you drop to, a battalion or, you know, some,

Adam Stark:

some other infantry, position.

Todd Miller:

Very interesting.

Todd Miller:

So that probably did give you some introduction to tech and things as well.

Todd Miller:

I would imagine as part of that.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, absolutely.

Adam Stark:

I mean, you know, I think the, the principles behind a service kind of

Adam Stark:

regardless of, you know, where you serve really, is the understanding and how to,

Adam Stark:

one is collaborate with people, right?

Adam Stark:

I mean, you're going to be joining up with people who you might otherwise have

Adam Stark:

never interacted with, engaged with.

Adam Stark:

You're likely going to be interacting with different.

Adam Stark:

I'll call it departments, right?

Adam Stark:

Of military, right?

Adam Stark:

You're going to get plugins or plug into, other units or vice versa, right?

Adam Stark:

For various reasons, various operations and purposes,

Adam Stark:

various deployments, et cetera.

Adam Stark:

with that, you're also, of course, learning how to leverage different, you

Adam Stark:

know, technologies, weapon systems, how to be incredibly efficient with that, right?

Adam Stark:

With, with whatever it is that you're using, reason being, same with the

Adam Stark:

communication aspect, same with the scheduling aspect, same with

Adam Stark:

the, you know, readiness aspect.

Adam Stark:

Everything is on the extreme of, okay, well, if I mess something up, right, if

Adam Stark:

I'm doing something that's not great, that's, you know, subpar, well, now all

Adam Stark:

of a sudden my life could be in danger and or my team's life could be in danger.

Adam Stark:

So, you really got to understand that concept, which, you know,

Adam Stark:

is easy to understand in such settings, in deployment and such.

Adam Stark:

and implement your day to day actions accordingly and how you,

Adam Stark:

carry yourself generally speaking.

Adam Stark:

So what I like to say, and, you know, we'll talk about this, when we get to

Adam Stark:

the segment of, of the podcast, the show that, you know, we're creating

Adam Stark:

here is a translatable skill, from military to, to a civilian life.

Adam Stark:

So I just touched on some of those, the key factor in translating these skills

Adam Stark:

is to recognize the, the, I don't know if I want to call it the Delta or just

Adam Stark:

the, how do you migrate, you know, the extreme setting of military and implement

Adam Stark:

that into, the relevant amount, right?

Adam Stark:

The relevant doses of, you know, civilian professional life.

Todd Miller:

Wow.

Todd Miller:

Very interesting.

Todd Miller:

That's cool stuff.

Todd Miller:

And I can see that, how that all built into creating who you are today.

Todd Miller:

And, you know, So I am going to back up a second.

Todd Miller:

I did forget to tell our audience.

Todd Miller:

I always forget this.

Todd Miller:

We are doing challenge words this episode.

Todd Miller:

So each one of us here on the show has been given a word by one of

Todd Miller:

the others that we are challenged to work into conversation somehow.

Todd Miller:

So our listening audience can try to figure out what those words are and we

Todd Miller:

will say at the end, whether we were successful or not, but so, you know, after

Todd Miller:

you, I assume it was fairly soon after you finished your time in the military, you

Todd Miller:

ended up back here in the States, ended up working in real estate management and

Todd Miller:

development and that was in New York City.

Todd Miller:

Is that correct?

Todd Miller:

How did that all happen?

Todd Miller:

How did you get your introduction to that?

Todd Miller:

It doesn't seem like something that someone just suddenly

Todd Miller:

decides they're going to do one day and they're able to do it.

Adam Stark:

Correct.

Adam Stark:

Yes.

Adam Stark:

Correct.

Adam Stark:

So yeah, after I finished my service, I actually went to Boston first where I did

Adam Stark:

my undergrad, Northeastern, great program.

Adam Stark:

they have this, this co op, program function within the business

Adam Stark:

school in particular that allows you to test different, work

Adam Stark:

environments through your degree.

Adam Stark:

So it's kind of an enforced inter internship program, which typically is

Adam Stark:

actually paid, which is really nice.

Adam Stark:

In that process, what I was recognizing is a few things.

Adam Stark:

One is, you know, realizing that I've always, as a kid too, liked to build

Adam Stark:

things like whether that be Lego, whether that be, you know, just, you know,

Adam Stark:

wood, workshops, whether it be fixing things around the house, you name it.

Adam Stark:

And the second part is I also really liked design.

Adam Stark:

And the outcome of a design and kind of, I'm saying this in hindsight too.

Adam Stark:

So it's not necessarily that, you know, in the moment I was able to pinpoint

Adam Stark:

these things, but, basically what happened in terms of getting involved into real

Adam Stark:

estate development and construction.

Adam Stark:

Just right time, right place, just through networking, through these internships

Adam Stark:

and such, you know, I was finishing with my, with my degree, there was an

Adam Stark:

open position, at a, you know, a family office developer in New York City.

Adam Stark:

and because of, you know, I guess, recognizing my interest in building,

Adam Stark:

my interest in design, I figured, yeah, you know, why not test that, especially

Adam Stark:

in a place like New York City, right, where, you know, real estate is, is

Adam Stark:

kind of the core of what goes on there.

Todd Miller:

Very cool.

Todd Miller:

I'm glad you ended up in construction because you bring a lot to our industry.

Todd Miller:

I mean, you could have gone to work at Tesla or something too, but, I'm glad

Todd Miller:

you ended up here in construction.

Todd Miller:

Your, your LinkedIn also talks something about photojournalism.

Todd Miller:

Tell me a little bit about that.

Todd Miller:

I'm kind of curious where that all ties in.

Todd Miller:

You're, you're like a Renaissance man.

Todd Miller:

I tell you, you do a little bit of everything.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, you know, it's, it's a, it's a hobby of mine and I've

Adam Stark:

had the opportunity to, photograph a few, weddings and, and, you know,

Adam Stark:

kind of wedding related events, in a, in a more abstract kind of a way.

Adam Stark:

I, I, I'm not really sure how exactly I got into it.

Adam Stark:

I think it's just that, again, that dynamic of enjoying, design.

Adam Stark:

Love to travel as well.

Adam Stark:

I've traveled to quite a, quite a few places around the world and, I've

Adam Stark:

done so alone many of times and kind of what I ended up picking up is just

Adam Stark:

a camera and experiencing, you know, kind of, documenting, my travels.

Adam Stark:

so very, very much a hobby.

Adam Stark:

I love to kind of just engage with art in general.

Adam Stark:

You know, I think since starting, since starting Jet Build, it's, it's

Adam Stark:

definitely not, been as prevalent like in my life, it being, you

Adam Stark:

know, photography, just because, entrepreneurship is all consuming.

Todd Miller:

can attest to that..

Adam Stark:

Correct, correct.

Adam Stark:

But, nonetheless, I always, you know, I always tried to, go back, get

Adam Stark:

back to the camera whenever I can, whether it be a short trip or, just

Adam Stark:

really just walking around, the city.

Todd Miller:

That's cool.

Todd Miller:

That's a lot of fun.

Todd Miller:

So as you started working with construction and development

Todd Miller:

and redevelopment, what were some of the things that you saw?

Todd Miller:

I mean, problems, challenges, inefficiencies, that kind of drove

Todd Miller:

you to envision and, and then to go about creating jet.build.

Adam Stark:

So if, if anyone is familiar with the, dynamic of family office, I

Adam Stark:

think particularly in the Northeast, I mean, I could be wrong, but I've just

Adam Stark:

seen that so many times, just, you know, by virtue of being in the ecosystem

Adam Stark:

of, real estate in the Northeast, is what, what you end up having is small

Adam Stark:

internal teams building significant, volume of construction of development.

Adam Stark:

And I bring that up in particular to say, you know, I was in a.

Adam Stark:

thankfully and gratefully in this awesome position where I was exposed

Adam Stark:

to really all of the dynamics that exist in, you know, significant,

Adam Stark:

high rise, mixed use, all types of development and construction projects.

Adam Stark:

and in that position, in that scenario, you know, I was.

Adam Stark:

Kind of this point person, representing the owner, working for the owner,

Adam Stark:

but also sometimes self performing.

Adam Stark:

So hiring trades, hiring GCs, hiring design teams, you know, hiring the,

Adam Stark:

the administrative stuff, right?

Adam Stark:

Like insurements, expediters, working with collaborating with the lender as well.

Adam Stark:

So really, you know, information was having to flow through me.

Adam Stark:

and then I would have to therefore delegate information

Adam Stark:

in the best way possible and.

Adam Stark:

It didn't take very long to recognize that without a platform to manage

Adam Stark:

all of these parties, right?

Adam Stark:

I mean, that's a that's a lot of people from a lot of different companies

Adam Stark:

who otherwise are not connected outside of this project, right?

Adam Stark:

so realizing that for example excel and email chain was not a great way

Adam Stark:

of spending my time Right because i'd end up on a weekly basis Spending

Adam Stark:

hours of collecting everybody's, you know, updates, feedback, information,

Adam Stark:

comments, questions, consolidating that into one place and trying to

Adam Stark:

issue it out all the time, whether that be an Excel document, you know,

Adam Stark:

PDF, email chain, impossible, right?

Adam Stark:

You're talking hundreds of millions of dollars worth of value.

Adam Stark:

in, in projects, construction and assets and dozens of stakeholders.

Adam Stark:

So, I mean, what's going on here, right?

Adam Stark:

I mean, we have technologies exist to support us with less significant, right?

Adam Stark:

Less significant functions, right?

Adam Stark:

Significance, meaning just literal size, objective size or objective, dollar value.

Adam Stark:

And that's when, of course, before, you know, spending, all of, all of,

Adam Stark:

life building out a solution first went to, to the market to see what existed.

Adam Stark:

to understand, all right, well, what can we adopt to help us do our jobs better?

Adam Stark:

Recognize the legacy products that existed in the Market, got hit with,

Adam Stark:

the, the price tag, which, quickly and, you know, immediately got rejected

Adam Stark:

by the company I was working for.

Adam Stark:

And my, my co founder, a long time friend, he's really a

Adam Stark:

copy and paste version of me.

Adam Stark:

He has the exact same story.

Adam Stark:

And then that's when, that's when we just met up and said,

Adam Stark:

all right, well, You know what?

Adam Stark:

Why don't we, why don't we just figure this out?

Adam Stark:

Like, why don't we just solve for this rather than, you know, continue

Adam Stark:

on this path of, email and Excel and wasting hours of our time, you

Adam Stark:

know, manual entry problems, lack of data retention, if at all, lack of

Adam Stark:

data for, life cycle of that asset.

Adam Stark:

Right.

Adam Stark:

So for example, again, working for the owner, what happens at

Adam Stark:

the end of a project, right?

Adam Stark:

The, the data dump on Dropbox or SharePoint from a legacy

Adam Stark:

product is not helpful.

Adam Stark:

For whenever an issue occurs on your, on your asset, right.

Adam Stark:

When it's a operational, right.

Adam Stark:

So, you know, that, that's the data plug as well.

Adam Stark:

Right.

Adam Stark:

How are we going to leverage data to help us on the life cycle of the asset?

Adam Stark:

Not only in the construction process.

Adam Stark:

And that's, that was the inception of Jet, which really in reality occurred

Adam Stark:

because of first and foremost, price point of existing legacy products.

Adam Stark:

And second was also just the difficulty in understanding those products, right.

Adam Stark:

We couldn't see the value in it against the price.

Todd Miller:

You know, I see so many people that will delve into, you

Todd Miller:

know, tech and an app or whatever, and they invest in it and they, they

Todd Miller:

find it's just pretty overwhelming.

Todd Miller:

I mean, you know, you, you have to spend so much time learning it and

Todd Miller:

teaching your team and then holding them accountable to make sure they're using it.

Todd Miller:

So, I love that you guys came out of, okay, we know the things

Todd Miller:

that are too difficult sometimes, how can we, make them simpler?

Todd Miller:

So I'm curious, you talk a little bit about, AI and how

Todd Miller:

it, works within your platform.

Todd Miller:

Tell us a little bit about some of the things maybe that, you're doing

Todd Miller:

through AI to help your clients.

Adam Stark:

Absolutely.

Adam Stark:

So I always like to start off with, separating, the two buckets of AI,

Adam Stark:

as I like to, you know, call it, one bucket is, the Boston Dynamics, for

Adam Stark:

example, robot that is, you know, building buildings or trying to, right.

Adam Stark:

I'm putting that aside.

Adam Stark:

The jet.build version of AI is administrative support, right?

Adam Stark:

So it's the Chat GPT type where you can really just start leveraging it today.

Adam Stark:

so for, you know, literal functionality in terms of what we've implemented in

Adam Stark:

particular, for example, that's, AI, scope of work, SOW creation, right?

Adam Stark:

Based on your budget line item.

Adam Stark:

It's things like, scheduling overlays to understand, you know,

Adam Stark:

if you're behind on, on schedule or, you know, ahead of schedule.

Adam Stark:

Same thing for things like, specifications or drawing overlays to understand

Adam Stark:

what has been added or removed.

Adam Stark:

So it really, a lot of administrative, support, what ends up happening as

Adam Stark:

well, and I think you've mentioned this in, in the introduction, so

Adam Stark:

thank you for, for calling that out is, the more data that you can retain

Adam Stark:

in a in an indexed format, right?

Adam Stark:

So you need a platform to retain data Excel is not going to do this for

Adam Stark:

you The more data you retain the the more insights, more reporting that

Adam Stark:

can be produced in a AI capacity.

Adam Stark:

So what what could that mean?

Adam Stark:

It's predictive analytics.

Adam Stark:

It's just really reading, you know through your data and giving you an answer

Adam Stark:

exactly like chat gbt is doing Right?

Adam Stark:

And it's doing that by consolidating You amassments of data, reading it

Adam Stark:

real quick for you and addressing whatever you've asked it.

Adam Stark:

So that, that's the kind of AI that we're focused on.

Todd Miller:

You know, it's funny.

Todd Miller:

I mentioned earlier the meetings I was at this week and the last time

Todd Miller:

we met was just six months ago.

Todd Miller:

And at those meetings, someone came and talked to us about AI

Todd Miller:

and, you know, even just Chat GPT.

Todd Miller:

And, you know, most of the people there was just, wow, they just blew away.

Todd Miller:

They had nothing, knew nothing about it.

Todd Miller:

Well, this meeting just six months later, I don't think there was a person in the

Todd Miller:

room who didn't say that, yeah, I'm using some form of AI today, six months later.

Todd Miller:

So, yeah, the potential there is just tremendous.

Todd Miller:

So I, I admire you guys for integrating it.

Todd Miller:

kind of curious, how does a company out there get started with, Jet?

Todd Miller:

You know, what does that process look like?

Adam Stark:

Totally.

Adam Stark:

So, you know, we have two versions of getting started.

Adam Stark:

One is literally an off the shelf, product where you go on our website, jet.

Adam Stark:

build, you know, grab a license and just start rolling with your project.

Adam Stark:

We have, dozens of clients who have actually done that.

Adam Stark:

which is really awesome to realize, right?

Adam Stark:

Cause what we're seeing in that, in that concept is kind

Adam Stark:

of the shift in understanding of technology in our industry, right?

Adam Stark:

So rather than the traditional mindset where it's this, you know, elongated

Adam Stark:

onboarding process and you know, teams need hours or weeks or months to

Adam Stark:

understand how to leverage tools, right.

Adam Stark:

For their projects.

Adam Stark:

Well, what we're seeing now, literally, because it's already happened to

Adam Stark:

us dozens of times is, you know, clients will go on our website, start

Adam Stark:

a project, we'll reach out and say, hey, you know, thanks for joining.

Adam Stark:

How's your project going?

Adam Stark:

Do you need any help?

Adam Stark:

Etc.

Adam Stark:

Nah, we're good.

Adam Stark:

And they just, they, you know, continue rolling on with their project.

Adam Stark:

So it's really cool to see.

Adam Stark:

Yeah.

Ethan Young:

Yeah, that's, that's special.

Adam Stark:

Yeah.

Adam Stark:

now the other side, and I'll, you know, say also, you know, you

Adam Stark:

know, full transparency, those are relatively smaller projects, right?

Adam Stark:

So those aren't a hundred million dollar projects, which, you know,

Adam Stark:

rightfully so that, that makes sense.

Adam Stark:

Now for the larger projects, even so what, what ends up happening is

Adam Stark:

we'll have a, you know, like a 45 to an hour, long onboarding, and

Adam Stark:

introduction and training session.

Adam Stark:

And that typically starts with the, you know, core team, who's the license holder.

Adam Stark:

Then from there, depending on how the client wants to interact, we'll either

Adam Stark:

schedule weekly or biweekly follow ups for about a month or two months.

Adam Stark:

Also again, 40, 40 minute calls, each of those.

Adam Stark:

where we'll continue to scale their project.

Adam Stark:

And really the reason for that is, you know, the, the initial phase is to say,

Adam Stark:

okay, here's your initial drawings.

Adam Stark:

We'll onboard the initial teams that exist so far in this project.

Adam Stark:

And then as more teams get onboarded to the project's life cycle, that's

Adam Stark:

when we're, you know, onboarding new people, essentially new information.

Adam Stark:

From there and what's really neat about the kind of, the combining support

Adam Stark:

with the product is what we'll do is we'll take feedback from our clients,

Adam Stark:

whether that be, you know, missing a report, whether that be, you know,

Adam Stark:

their, realization that a nuance to a solution can be better because, you know,

Adam Stark:

they're the ones literally operating.

Adam Stark:

So we'll, we'll understand that as a team, because again, you know,

Adam Stark:

our backgrounds are literally.

Adam Stark:

You know, my business partner is a civil engineer by trade.

Adam Stark:

Both of us spent over a decade on construction sites.

Adam Stark:

We've literally ourselves coded the product.

Adam Stark:

So when we encourage feedback and when we hear from clients, it's really easy for us

Adam Stark:

to one, envision, first of all, understand what they're saying, two envision how

Adam Stark:

it gets implemented on the product.

Adam Stark:

And three, give them a real timeline of implementation, which, you know,

Adam Stark:

we range from like an hour to, I mean, the longest something has taken,

Adam Stark:

I think is three weeks, but really that's just because priority lists

Adam Stark:

rather than actual time to implement.

Adam Stark:

So people are really, pleasantly surprised with one, our, you know,

Adam Stark:

desire for their feedback and two, the turnaround to implement that feedback.

Adam Stark:

so that's really the two, two processes is, you know, generally speaking,

Adam Stark:

it's really an hour of onboarding because the recurring calls are

Adam Stark:

usually with different teams, you know, as they're onboarded to projects,

Todd Miller:

That's amazing and everything you say there is just,

Todd Miller:

I think, music to everyone's ears because I think a lot of folks have

Todd Miller:

gone the route of trying to implement us, you know, software or something.

Todd Miller:

And, you know, one of the things you often find is those people trying to help

Todd Miller:

you don't even understand the software

Adam Stark:

Right.

Todd Miller:

and so that's, that's an awesome story you have there.

Todd Miller:

Any success stories or client comments that come to mind that you can share

Todd Miller:

with our audience, from, you know, folks who have implemented, JET?

Adam Stark:

Yeah, absolutely.

Adam Stark:

So, you know, there's, I'll give it two different like buckets of stories.

Adam Stark:

One is, really simplicity of it's really what I was just describing

Adam Stark:

right simplicity of use and the support that we provide our clients, which is

Adam Stark:

also, you know, it's collaborative, meaning the client has to want to, you

Adam Stark:

know, engage with us so that we can support them better, in their process.

Adam Stark:

So, we have some clients that, I find this to be really neat where, you know, we went

Adam Stark:

through the typical onboarding process.

Adam Stark:

They have a handful of projects that are all significant in, in

Adam Stark:

construction, value and volume.

Adam Stark:

And what they started to do is just simply reach out to us when

Adam Stark:

they noticed, you know, hey, what about a report for this solution?

Adam Stark:

That would be really helpful for my process, right?

Adam Stark:

So now they're just realized at this point.

Adam Stark:

You know, they can just ask for a solution.

Adam Stark:

We'll embrace it and implement it because we understand it makes sense, right?

Adam Stark:

Obviously if we have a question we ask a question, but I find that to

Adam Stark:

be really cool where you know, we don't have to engage clients anymore

Adam Stark:

Rather they just know to reach out and ask for ask for something if

Adam Stark:

there's an area where we can improve.

Adam Stark:

Now the second piece that I find, really really cool as well.

Adam Stark:

And this this is going to be um, a hot take on, on industry where,

Adam Stark:

you know, you have a lot of legacy products who, who claim innovation

Adam Stark:

and claim technology, but they're also all consuming in budget, right?

Adam Stark:

Their price points are, uh, egregious, and they are compounding year Over year,

Adam Stark:

they audit accounts, et cetera, et cetera.

Adam Stark:

So it's really tough for companies to innovate because they're

Adam Stark:

locked up with their core product.

Adam Stark:

On one solution.

Adam Stark:

So there are two companies, two clients in particular who have since, you

Adam Stark:

know, migrated off of those legacy products and onto, onto JetBuild,

Adam Stark:

which has freed up space in terms of, you know, technology budget or,

Adam Stark:

you know, willingness to actually innovate and leverage other products.

Adam Stark:

And we've, you know, essentially provided them with the core platform,

Adam Stark:

which is jet to go to the market, right?

Adam Stark:

And absorb a few other solutions that were really helpful for

Adam Stark:

them, like drone imaging or just, you know, site, image capture,

Adam Stark:

generally speaking, AI for safety.

Adam Stark:

so that's that's been really neat as well.

Todd Miller:

You know, I, again, I love that and music to my ears.

Todd Miller:

I mean, hearing a software company that is responsive and, you know, wants to

Todd Miller:

grow that way because of information from clients is pretty unique.

Todd Miller:

So I, I do want to switch gears a little bit.

Todd Miller:

something caught my eye.

Todd Miller:

Your LinkedIn profile says you are a master practitioner of shalosh.

Todd Miller:

I hope I'm pronouncing that right, which was something I had never heard of before.

Todd Miller:

Sounds pretty incredible.

Todd Miller:

Can you tell our audience a little bit about, uh, shalosh and the,

Todd Miller:

the impact it has on your life?

Adam Stark:

Yeah, that's, you pronounced it 90 percent correct, which is

Todd Miller:

90%.

Todd Miller:

Ah, 10 percent's a killer.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, so it's called, uh, Shalosh, which is, again, you were,

Adam Stark:

I mean, maybe it was even more than 90 percent is what you, what you got.

Adam Stark:

So that's Hebrew for the number three.

Adam Stark:

and, that's my essentially wellness philosophy.

Adam Stark:

wellness practice, you know, leveraging my own experience of, you know, sports,

Adam Stark:

special forces, military career, a 500 hour certified yoga instructor,

Adam Stark:

and really just merging all of these, you know, different things that I've

Adam Stark:

experienced and gone through my life, into how I practice wellness day to day.

Adam Stark:

And Shalosh, like the number three stands for the three pillars of which I practice.

Adam Stark:

and that is, you know, mental wellness, physical fitness and nutrition.

Todd Miller:

So that, uh, keeps you at peak performance at all times.

Todd Miller:

Then hopefully,

Adam Stark:

It, it does and, you know, what, what, what tends to,

Adam Stark:

I don't even know how to word it, but tends to, like, be, be missed

Adam Stark:

is, it's, it's not easy, right?

Adam Stark:

It's, even for someone dedicated day to day, it doesn't mean

Adam Stark:

that it's easy day to day.

Adam Stark:

And that's what it's about though.

Adam Stark:

It's, it's, it's recognizing that it's not easy, recognizing that.

Adam Stark:

you know, things won't always be the same for you, whether that be

Adam Stark:

mental, physical, you know, nutrition wise, and it's about how do you

Adam Stark:

fluctuate, and maintain consistency.

Adam Stark:

Cause that's, what's most important.

Todd Miller:

Do you find, as you are able to, you know, consistently practice

Todd Miller:

that discipline, whatever it might be in one area of your life, that it kind of

Todd Miller:

allows you to do it in other areas also?

Todd Miller:

I mean, it seems like an undisciplined life is undisciplined

Todd Miller:

in all areas and a disciplined life is disciplined in all areas.

Todd Miller:

Is that kind of what you find also?

Adam Stark:

Yeah.

Adam Stark:

I mean, you know, mind you, you're, you're obviously asking, someone with, you

Adam Stark:

know, a, a extreme per se, perspective, coming with, with military background.

Adam Stark:

But, I mean, you know, I'm, I'm at a point where if I don't.

Adam Stark:

if I'm not able to commit at least some, some amount of time to, to my daily

Adam Stark:

routine, which is, you know, really the, the, the mental and physical element,

Adam Stark:

I'll feel it, I'll feel it during that day, in a, in a negative way.

Adam Stark:

So my answer is unequivocally yes, and, and it's really important to me,

Adam Stark:

and how I just function day to day.

Todd Miller:

Very good.

Todd Miller:

Well, I don't know where you find time for everything, Adam, but, you also

Todd Miller:

have a podcast, as we mentioned earlier, called The Veterans Who Build Show.

Todd Miller:

Tell us a little bit about that.

Adam Stark:

Yeah.

Adam Stark:

So, you know, I want to give a shout out to the Sean Ryan show.

Adam Stark:

For those that are listening, if you're familiar with it, he, he's Sean Ryan.

Adam Stark:

He he's, like a top five podcast at this point.

Adam Stark:

I caught on to his show about a year ago, maybe, maybe a little bit less

Adam Stark:

even, and I've just been, I mean, I've been hooked on, on the stories.

Adam Stark:

It's, it's really just, providing a platform for veterans

Adam Stark:

to speak their life story.

Adam Stark:

And it's been incredibly helpful for me to, to hear.

Adam Stark:

In, in a way that, you know, I wasn't aware that this would, this

Adam Stark:

would happen to me by any means.

Adam Stark:

However, just hearing other veterans talk their stories, their hardships,

Adam Stark:

what they're doing, you know, now, how they've got, gone through hardships

Adam Stark:

and realizing that I was applying that to myself with things that I wasn't

Adam Stark:

even necessarily like consciously aware of, which was, it's funny to say.

Adam Stark:

And that was just actually what was happened to me, what happens to me

Adam Stark:

when I listened to these stories.

Adam Stark:

So that, that started, you know, kind of like percolating in my head, right?

Adam Stark:

I was thinking like, Oh, this, this is interesting.

Adam Stark:

Like that this is happening to me.

Adam Stark:

And the second is just, you know, realizing myself and my own story that,

Adam Stark:

you know, the built environment in general is, an incredible like segue

Adam Stark:

for veterans, you know, finishing military and looking for a profession

Adam Stark:

for, multitude of reasons, some of which I, you know, described before

Adam Stark:

that, you know, environment where you're working with different, different

Adam Stark:

people, different companies, you're on a, you know, physical kind of, you

Adam Stark:

know, situation and outcome, right?

Adam Stark:

You're building, you have a tangible outcome, and whatever, a lot of

Adam Stark:

different other different reasons.

Adam Stark:

So, kind of just recognizing that or being in this space and then listening

Adam Stark:

to Sean Ryan show, I eventually just pieced these things together, and had

Adam Stark:

this aha moment like, okay, well, this is, this is an awesome opportunity

Adam Stark:

to, provide, kind of both of those things in an emerged capacity, right?

Adam Stark:

So the purpose of the show is.

Adam Stark:

to create this roadmap for, veterans or, you know, our military personnel

Adam Stark:

that it's actively enlisted, right?

Adam Stark:

The roadmap is transition period from, military to civilian, which

Adam Stark:

is just a very difficult thing.

Adam Stark:

and then the second is to discuss translatable skills,

Adam Stark:

military to, profession in the built environment in particular.

Adam Stark:

And when I say built environment, I mean, it's pretty broad, sweep in.

Adam Stark:

So that's anything from like commercial real estate to, of course, contractors

Adam Stark:

and trades, site operators to, you know, technology in the space.

Adam Stark:

So anything that has to do with built environment.

Adam Stark:

And the way that the show functions is it's kind of, just a platform for

Adam Stark:

veterans to share their story, where we go from, you know, childhood through

Adam Stark:

enlistment, through transition, into the built environment, you know, with

Adam Stark:

that key element of roadmap, you know, transition period and translatable skills.

Todd Miller:

Very neat.

Todd Miller:

Well, I am going to be sure to check it out.

Todd Miller:

I haven't had a chance to yet.

Todd Miller:

But, anxious to hear some of those stories.

Todd Miller:

So again, that's called The Veterans Who Build Show, and we

Todd Miller:

encourage folks to check that out.

Todd Miller:

Well, Adam, you have had a fascinating life and you still

Todd Miller:

got lots of life ahead of you.

Todd Miller:

and I love how, you know, a common theme in your life that I keep hearing is.

Todd Miller:

You know, really wanting to help others and wanting to share with others

Todd Miller:

and and help to bolster their lives.

Todd Miller:

So this has been great, our time has flown by.

Todd Miller:

We're kind of close to wrapping up what we call the business end of things.

Todd Miller:

Is there anything we haven't covered yet today that you wanted to be sure to share?

Adam Stark:

No, my, my two, you know, key plugs here on any show

Adam Stark:

or really anything I'd like to talk about it, we touched on, right.

Adam Stark:

We have, JetBuild and we have, The Veterans Who Build Show.

Adam Stark:

so, yeah, appreciate you asking.

Todd Miller:

Awesome.

Todd Miller:

Thank you so much.

Todd Miller:

Well, before we do close out, I'm going to ask you if you're willing

Todd Miller:

to participate in something we call our rapid fire questions.

Todd Miller:

So these are 7 questions.

Todd Miller:

Some may be serious.

Todd Miller:

Some may be more silly.

Todd Miller:

All you have to do is give a response and, you would be our

Todd Miller:

first person to turn us down.

Todd Miller:

So I have to ask you the pressures on.

Todd Miller:

Are you willing to, participate in rapid fire?

Adam Stark:

Very well in.

Todd Miller:

It's always fun.

Todd Miller:

Well, Ethan and I can alternate asking questions.

Todd Miller:

Would you like to ask the first question, Ethan?

Ethan Young:

Yeah, I can do that.

Ethan Young:

Um, what's one thing that you don't think you could, or let me say, what's one

Ethan Young:

thing you'd say you can't live without?

Adam Stark:

My morning routine.

Todd Miller:

Gosh, that is not an answer most people would

Todd Miller:

probably have to that question.

Todd Miller:

That's awesome though.

Todd Miller:

Question two.

Todd Miller:

If you could have dinner with any historical figure, who would

Todd Miller:

you choose to have dinner with?

Adam Stark:

I'm gonna go, I'm, you know what, I'm just gonna go like really

Adam Stark:

biblical here and say King David.

Adam Stark:

I wanna, I wanna know what his, you know, one to one, what his life was about.

Todd Miller:

That'd be cool.

Todd Miller:

That'd be cool.

Ethan Young:

Very much so.

Ethan Young:

what's your, what's your biggest pet peeve?

Adam Stark:

This is a good one.

Adam Stark:

This is a really good one.

Adam Stark:

So, uh, uh, I like to run.

Adam Stark:

so I run, you know, typically in a park now at, in New York city, I

Adam Stark:

used to live next to central park.

Adam Stark:

Now I'm in St.

Adam Stark:

Louis.

Adam Stark:

I live right next to the forest park.

Adam Stark:

And my pet peeve is definitely, you know, there, there typically are paths

Adam Stark:

for like, you know, running, walking, or there's a site, whatever, when, when

Adam Stark:

people are walking and they, they see you.

Adam Stark:

And they're taking up the entirety of, you know, like a running path or

Adam Stark:

a bike path, whatever, and then they don't move when you're getting closer.

Adam Stark:

And that's, that, that's my pet peeve.

Todd Miller:

I'm moving faster than you.

Todd Miller:

I thought you were going to say when people threw chewing gum on

Todd Miller:

the path or something like that.

Todd Miller:

Question number four.

Todd Miller:

What was your favorite childhood toy or game?

Adam Stark:

Oh, definitely.

Adam Stark:

Definitely Legos.

Todd Miller:

Uh, that's that whole build thing and create and very cool.

Ethan Young:

Ties in perfect.

Ethan Young:

Um, I guess you already said you've traveled a lot of places, but there,

Ethan Young:

is there like another place that's on your bucket list that you haven't

Ethan Young:

been on to, or haven't been to yet?

Adam Stark:

Yeah, I mean, I kind of have like the, the, the world

Adam Stark:

meaning the balance of places.

Adam Stark:

I haven't been on my bucket list, but, I guess top, top few right now.

Adam Stark:

First would would be Vietnam, I think.

Adam Stark:

that, that's number one.

Adam Stark:

yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with Vietnam.

Adam Stark:

That's, that's my, that's my next like destination that

Adam Stark:

I'm, that I'm hoping to get to.

Ethan Young:

Yeah, very cool.

Todd Miller:

Next to last question.

Todd Miller:

It sounds like you're kind of a sports guy.

Todd Miller:

What is your favorite sport to watch?

Adam Stark:

You, you know what's really funny is I, I used to, I used to be so,

Adam Stark:

you know, avid into sports like watching everything that was going on and over the

Adam Stark:

past probably five, six years, I really just dropped off to like, all right,

Adam Stark:

the back end of playoffs of sports.

Adam Stark:

I love to, to physically, physically go to, to really any game, any sport.

Adam Stark:

I find that to always be just a fun environment, even regardless of, of the

Adam Stark:

teams, Favorite sport to watch though, it would, would still be, and I think

Adam Stark:

traditionally for me has been football.

Adam Stark:

So American football.

Todd Miller:

Okay.

Todd Miller:

Good answer.

Ethan Young:

Uh, last one.

Ethan Young:

Is there a product or service that you've purchased recently

Ethan Young:

That's you've kind of been like, where has this been all my life?

Ethan Young:

You know, this is a game changer.

Adam Stark:

That's a good one.

Adam Stark:

Um, uh, wow.

Adam Stark:

I probably do.

Adam Stark:

Oh, yes.

Adam Stark:

Great.

Adam Stark:

I got it is an instant pot.

Adam Stark:

So what that is, is I like to cook most of my meals.

Adam Stark:

and it's a pressure cooker.

Adam Stark:

So it kind of, you know, creates a, static temperature

Adam Stark:

and the entirety of the device.

Adam Stark:

So it cooks things quicker, and with, you know, one pot versus

Adam Stark:

having, you know, let's say if you're making like rice and, and meat and

Adam Stark:

vegetables, you could literally just throw everything in there, press one

Adam Stark:

button and it cooks it, amazingly.

Adam Stark:

so that, that's my, that's definitely my answer.

Ethan Young:

Nice.

Todd Miller:

Good answer.

Todd Miller:

And kind of reminds me, I have to talk to my wife.

Todd Miller:

We have to get ours out.

Todd Miller:

We haven't used it in a while.

Todd Miller:

She's always kind of freaking out I'm going to blow up the kitchen with it or

Todd Miller:

something like, no, no, that won't happen.

Todd Miller:

It'll be okay.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, you'll be good.

Todd Miller:

Well, thank you again, Adam.

Todd Miller:

this has been a pleasure.

Todd Miller:

Really enjoyed getting to know you and hearing about, JetBuild

Todd Miller:

and, and all the other things and your podcast and everything.

Todd Miller:

for folks who may want to get in touch with you or to follow,

Todd Miller:

JetBuild and what you're doing there.

Todd Miller:

give us some ways they can do that.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, absolutely.

Adam Stark:

So, Jet Build's website is jet.build, so, the .build is

Adam Stark:

in place of .com, for example.

Adam Stark:

So jet.Build, for Jet.

Adam Stark:

For me personally, I'm, I'm active on LinkedIn.

Adam Stark:

you'll find me Adam Stark.

Adam Stark:

Umm, not sure what happens actually when you search Adam

Adam Stark:

Stark, like if other ones come up.

Adam Stark:

But, if you see Adam , Adam Stark Jet, Jet Build, that'll, that'll probably work.

Adam Stark:

And then the veterans who build show is on, you know, any platform that you're

Adam Stark:

listening to, for podcasts or content.

Adam Stark:

So we're on, you know, YouTube, Apple podcasts, Spotify, and we

Adam Stark:

also throw on shorts, on, Instagram and, and Facebook and Twitter.

Todd Miller:

Very good.

Todd Miller:

Well, we will put links in the show notes as well.

Todd Miller:

So folks can easily find you, and you were easy to find on LinkedIn also.

Todd Miller:

So that would, again, just Adam Stark and Jet Build and you'll find them.

Todd Miller:

Well, thank you very much.

Todd Miller:

It's been a real pleasure.

Todd Miller:

did, did any of us, Oh, I got my challenge word in.

Todd Miller:

Yeah.

Todd Miller:

Did you guys get your challenge words in?

Ethan Young:

Nah, I did not.

Adam Stark:

Yeah, I was, it was, it was on my mind a handful of times, but, Each

Adam Stark:

time it came up, I was thinking, I mean, this would, this would just be too silly.

Adam Stark:

Like I know when I had the opportunity, I realized I missed

Adam Stark:

it though, but congrats to you.

Adam Stark:

You, you, you win the, you win the award.

Todd Miller:

Well, I had the word Tesla that I, yeah, I was able to work that in.

Todd Miller:

But, Ethan, your word.

Todd Miller:

was that you didn't use.

Ethan Young:

Yeah, mine was Windex.

Ethan Young:

I, I, I was gonna do something with like the whole like maybe window washing

Ethan Young:

or skyscraper kind of thing with New York, but I feel like that was just too

Ethan Young:

much of a stretch and then I couldn't figure out any other way to put it in.

Todd Miller:

I thought maybe when you asked, Adam, if he, you know,

Todd Miller:

had discovered any new products, you'd say, you know, I just

Todd Miller:

discovered Windex the other day.

Todd Miller:

And yeah,

Adam Stark:

It, it, it crossed my, it crossed my mind.

Adam Stark:

a few, a few, a few opportunities crossed my mind, but I had the same kind of like,

Adam Stark:

it's too, it's too much of a stretch.

Adam Stark:

Like, come on.

Ethan Young:

just felt like a stretch

Adam Stark:

Yeah.

Todd Miller:

and Adam, your word was covert, right?

Todd Miller:

See, see, you were so good at it.

Todd Miller:

No one even knew it.

Todd Miller:

So.

Ethan Young:

Yeah.

Adam Stark:

I used it.

Adam Stark:

Maybe I didn't.

Todd Miller:

There you go.

Todd Miller:

There you go.

Todd Miller:

Uh, that's been great.

Todd Miller:

Thank you so much for joining us.

Todd Miller:

Appreciate it.

Adam Stark:

Thanks so much for having me on the show, guys.

Adam Stark:

I really appreciate the opportunity to share, you know, my story and what

Adam Stark:

I'm working on through your platform.

Adam Stark:

It means a lot.

Adam Stark:

Thank you.

Todd Miller:

Thank you and thank you to our audience for tuning in to this very

Todd Miller:

special episode of construction disruption with Adam Stark of jet.build, please

Todd Miller:

watch for future episodes of our podcast.

Todd Miller:

We're always have great guests.

Todd Miller:

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Todd Miller:

until the next time we're together, keep on disrupting, keep on challenging,

Todd Miller:

keep on looking for better ways of doing things and don't forget to give back.

Todd Miller:

Have a positive impact on those around you.

Todd Miller:

Do whatever you can to just smile or encourage them.

Todd Miller:

makes a big difference in someone's life.

Todd Miller:

So, God bless and take care.

Todd Miller:

This is Isaiah Industries signing off until the next episode

Todd Miller:

of Construction Disruption.