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Speaker BToday, I wanted to talk about making your air quality better in the winter months.
Speaker BInside air quality.
Speaker BWhen we're stuck inside, the weather's bad is a really important thing.
Speaker BSo let's talk about this a little bit today.
Speaker BNow, one of the things first that I want to talk about is indoor air quality testing.
Speaker BAnd it doesn't matter if you've got a new house or an old house, that's really where you start.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of different ways you can do that.
Speaker BThere's companies that, that you can hire to come in.
Speaker BYou can get ahold of my friend Carolyn Blazowski's company and she can of course, send out an air testing kit to you.
Speaker BAnd these are all things that you can do.
Speaker BAnd I'll put down in the notes down there where you can find her website to get that air quality test.
Speaker BAnd this is really where you want to start trying to figure out what's with your air.
Speaker BIs it Good?
Speaker BIs it bad?
Speaker BHow is it now?
Speaker BThey do make a lot of different sensors you could put in that'll give you real time, that'll give you some information.
Speaker BAnd that's key, is to figure out what you've got going on.
Speaker BBecause there's a lot of things that can be going on in your air now in your home if you've got an older house.
Speaker BThose houses were designed to breathe and you didn't have as active ventilation systems.
Speaker BNowadays, when we build a brand new house that is airtight, we've gotta have different things like ERV systems, which are energy recovery ventilators, where you're bringing in outside unconditioned air conditioning it and putting inside so you have fresh air.
Speaker BSo that's key.
Speaker BAnd so one of the things, when you do an air test that I like to see is free to run the test inside and outside.
Speaker BSo sometimes your air quality can be worse outside.
Speaker BIf you're next to a freeway or next to something that has lower air quality, or you've just got a swamp or something like that, where you've got lots of mold and mildew and things like that, sometimes the air quality can be worse outside than you have inside.
Speaker BSo then maybe ventilating and bringing in air from outside isn't great without some kind of filtration system.
Speaker BBut really the things that you're looking for are like VOCs.
Speaker BAnd VOCs are volatile organic compounds.
Speaker BThose can be found in anything from paints to your.
Speaker BThose little handy wipes that you buy in the round tubs that we use so much for cleaning up around the house.
Speaker BThose things there typically give off a ton of VOCs.
Speaker BAnd when we were talking to Caroline a few years ago, she was saying that she could just about count how many are in a house by the air quality test of what's given off.
Speaker BThere's.
Speaker BBut really you can have dirt, dust floating around, you can have pet hair and dander, you can have carbon dioxide or worse, carbon monoxide.
Speaker BYou can have other toxins like mold.
Speaker BYou can have other things coming off that are off, gassing, formaldehydes, those kind of things.
Speaker BAnd so these are things not alone.
Speaker BYou also got cooking too.
Speaker BSo you could have all the chemicals that are coming off of the food you're cooking.
Speaker BAnd yes, when you cook, that does give off chemicals, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide, if you're not careful.
Speaker BSo these are things that we want to really pay attention to when we're cooking.
Speaker BNow these are all different things that you can do and manage.
Speaker BAnd so that's what I really wanted to talk about today.
Speaker BFor instance, here, when we're talking VOCs.
Speaker BAnd this is something I have to give Caroline a lot of credit for.
Speaker BI learned a lot from her on this subject.
Speaker BBut here's the thing.
Speaker BWhen you have VOCs that can be from a lot of different things, that can be maybe the air freshener that you have plugged in, and I'm not a fan of the indoor plug in air fresheners that give off the oils and stuff you think about that's almost like vaping.
Speaker BYou're putting out this colored oil out there for you to breathe, not a fan.
Speaker BYou're better to get the house clean and use something more natural.
Speaker BBut really, VOCs are going to come from could be that, it could be the chemicals, it could be the cleaners, it could be a lot of different things.
Speaker BIt could be the paints that you're using.
Speaker BIt could be a remodeling project.
Speaker BAnd one of the things that I learned from her as well is that this is a key right here.
Speaker BIf you're storing in your basement or your garage that's attached to the house, if you're storing all your chemicals, like your lawn and garden chemicals, all your paints, all your stains, all that stuff, when that stuff off gases it is putting it up into the air.
Speaker BAnd that will make it inside the house, especially if it's in a basement or things like.
Speaker BSo these are things you want, really want to be careful with because that can really hurt your indoor air quality.
Speaker BSomething to think about.
Speaker BBut really, when it comes down to it, you've got a couple things.
Speaker BOne, if you want to get particles out of the air, you really need to have some kind of filtration.
Speaker BNow, this can be tough if you've got heat that's a radiator or you've got baseboard heat, coming up with a way to filter air can be hard.
Speaker BAnd there's ways you can do this that's fairly inexpensive.
Speaker BI have gotten a box fan and a 1 inch pleated like a MERV 8 10.
Speaker BFilter that good air filter in the 1 inch and you can install it to the side of the fan.
Speaker BTurn the fan on low or medium and put it in a room.
Speaker BAnd you can get a lot of particulate matter out of the air that way.
Speaker BOn a budget, all you have to do is buy a box fan and put a filter up on the side of it.
Speaker BMake sure, of course, that you buy a decent fan.
Speaker BYou don't want to overheat it because you've got a filter medium there.
Speaker BAnd don't always run it on a high.
Speaker BPut it on a medium so you get that thing not at its full capacity, but really moving the air through that is going to help.
Speaker BThat's a great way to get some of the dust out of there without having to put in any kind of an air scrubber.
Speaker BNow, I don't like the Sharper Image used to make these units you could put in.
Speaker BAnd they were a hydrostatic thing, not a fan of those.
Speaker BThey never worked.
Speaker BI threw mine away that I had sitting around.
Speaker BI think they were given to me, if I remember right.
Speaker BBut we got rid of those things.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BBut those are things you can do now.
Speaker BCarbon dioxide and other toxins and mold.
Speaker BFirst off, I want to make sure that you're doing a couple things.
Speaker BOne, with mold, I want to make sure that you are watching your indoor air quality in that you're checking to see what your humidity is.
Speaker BAnd we've talked about this in the past, controlling humidity.
Speaker BBut I really want to make sure that you're not over 60% anywhere in the house.
Speaker BTake a humidity sensor, go around, do your stuff, measure the basement, measure the crawl space, measure the bathroom, measure the kitchen, measure the bedrooms.
Speaker BTake a look and see what you've got going on.
Speaker BIf you're over 60%, then you need to figure out a way to dehumidify that.
Speaker BI'm not a fan of the portable ones that you come around have to empty.
Speaker BI'm a very big fan of putting ones in a place that it needs to be, or making sure that you've got ventilation enough to get that humidity out.
Speaker BOne of the biggest places that you're going to see that is your bathroom, and that's where that vent fan needs to come in.
Speaker BBut that vent fan is going to be key because a lot of times, if you've got that older builder basic vent fan that's putting out 40 CFM, for instance, and that's cubic feet per minute, that's really got to run a long time to get that out of there.
Speaker BI like putting in higher quality ones that have maybe 100, 120 CFM.
Speaker BSo that way you're moving a lot more air and you're getting it out there faster.
Speaker BSo in a bathroom upgrade that fan, make sure it vents all the way to the outside.
Speaker BIf you're venting into the attic space, that's gonna grow mold, and that's gonna be a expensive cleanup process there, so don't do that.
Speaker BBut really make sure that's running at least 20 minutes after you take a shower or a bath, anything like that, to get that humidity out of the room.
Speaker BAnd that's why building code generally requires you have a timer there so you can do that.
Speaker BSo making sure you have that.
Speaker BIf you're cooking on the stove, make sure that range hood is if the stove is on, the range hood should be on and then let it run for a minute or two afterwards.
Speaker BIf you see particulates, if you're cooking meat or something like that, where you've got a lot of smoke, again, these are things that you want to do.
Speaker BNow when we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more about ventilation and some of the tricks with this because you can get this right or you can get this wrong and it can be expensive and I don't want you to have to waste money.
Speaker BWe'll talk about that just as soon as around the House returns.
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Speaker AToday we're bringing you a special best of episode from December 2023 packed with our favorite tips and moments.
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Speaker BWelcome back to the around the House show.
Speaker BThis is where we help you get the most out of your home through information and education.
Speaker BThanks for joining us today.
Speaker BWe've been talking everything about indoor air quality today and I hopefully this will help you manage things around your house and keep it nice and clean and breathing easier.
Speaker BSo we've been talking about in the last segment, we were talking about what causes low indoor air quality and we were talking about all the different things you can do.
Speaker BNow ventilation is one of the things that are good because you can take that air and send it outside.
Speaker BIt doesn't matter if it's a bathroom fan, if it's a kitchen range hood or even a whole house fan, which you don't see as much of anymore.
Speaker BBut really that's where that comes from.
Speaker BAnd if you have a heating and cooling system like a H vac system where you've got central air and heat and or a heat pump, it's a lot easier to manage this because you've got ducting to every room in the house.
Speaker BAnd generally you've got a way to easily filter it.
Speaker BNow, one of the things that I want to bring up, because it's very important, is that I want to make sure that when you have ventilation and things that are moving air outside the house.
Speaker BNow, keep in mind, your dryer, if it's just a regular dryer, is putting hundreds of cfm out the house when it's running.
Speaker BYou've got a range hood that is anywhere from 200 CFM for a cheap one to 1200 CFM for a big one.
Speaker BAnd CFM is cubic feet per minute.
Speaker BAnd so you envision one of those as like a basketball.
Speaker BThat's always my thing to use.
Speaker BBut if you're taking, let's say you got somebody who's took a shower and somebody's cooking breakfast, so you got a shower going, maybe that's 75 CFM or a great fan, but still that's rated at the fan.
Speaker BSo it still has to go out.
Speaker BSo let's say it's a really good fan.
Speaker BAt 75, you've got 1,000 CFM and a range hood and then a dryer going.
Speaker BAll of a sudden you've got, let's say, 1200 CFM or more, 1200 cubic feet per minute leaving the house.
Speaker BSo what do you do on the inside?
Speaker BYou've created a vacuum.
Speaker BNow, if you've got a really tight house that was built recently, the problem now is that you're creating a vacuum, and it's going to find the path of least resistance.
Speaker BThat can be where your gas water heater is venting outside.
Speaker BAnd all of a sudden you're pulling the carbon monoxide in backwards or from your.
Speaker BYou're pulling it back in from your.
Speaker BMaybe your gas furnace.
Speaker BSo if you've got gas appliances, really be careful with that, or you're just pulling in air.
Speaker BSo the answer to that, you don't want to be pulling around windows and doors and air leaks in the house.
Speaker BSo really the answer to that is having makeup air.
Speaker BAnd that is meant for.
Speaker BIf you have a H vac system.
Speaker BSo you've got that ducted system where you hook in a sensor that either senses that vacuum or triggers when the vent fans turn on.
Speaker BSo what that does is that basically says, hey, we need to bring in fresh air.
Speaker BSo it'll turn the fan on the system, and then it opens up and brings in air to be conditioned into your system.
Speaker BSo it'll go through.
Speaker BRun it through your furnace, basically, or your air conditioner, and then out to the rest of the house, replacing that air.
Speaker BSo it's something to really think about is you don't want to create that vacuum, and that can be a problem.
Speaker BBut you really want to have ventilation, because that ventilation is key.
Speaker BNow, I also recommend ventilation in the garage.
Speaker BIf you have a insulated attached garage with an insulated door, make sure you have it in there, because if that's all sealed up and you park a wet car in there, you can have mold issues.
Speaker BSo make sure that you've got fresh air or at least something exhausting that moisture out of there.
Speaker BNow, depending on your location, you might need a humidifier or dehumidifier in the house, depending on what it's like.
Speaker BMany times if you're in the very cold, you need a humidifier because the air is so dry.
Speaker BBecause it's so cold inside the house, you'll get down into that 20% humidity, and it's uncomfortable.
Speaker BYou'll have static electricity.
Speaker BYou'll have dry hands.
Speaker BYou'll have.
Speaker BIt's hard on the fixtures and stuff inside.
Speaker BAnything wood dries out, it's just not great.
Speaker BOr if you've got humidity, where it's wet, it's moist, you could have high humidity issues, which then will create mold.
Speaker BAnd that's over 60% relative humidity.
Speaker BSo these are things that we need to manage in this indoor air quality, because mold is something that I think should be very commonly tested around our house, and that's something that I think we should talk about here, because you want to make sure that you're testing for that mold will show up in air quality testing.
Speaker BIt could be that you've got a shower leaking.
Speaker BIt could be that you have a roof leak that's coming to a place that you haven't caught yet.
Speaker BIt could be in an attic or crawl space.
Speaker BIt could be anywhere.
Speaker BSo that is where you need to bring in the professionals to figure out where that mold is coming from.
Speaker BAnd that's why you want to start with this baseline.
Speaker BNow, sometimes if you've got an air leak and you've got mold outside because you're next to a marshy, swampy water area, then you could be testing mold and go, oh, my gosh, I've got mold spores here.
Speaker BIt's coming from someplace, and it's just coming from air leaks because it's coming from outside.
Speaker BSo you want to make sure and test that.
Speaker BBut really trying to dive this in and figure out what's in your air is key.
Speaker BAnd that way you've got it under control.
Speaker BBecause I tell you what, mold can show up from a shower leak to a. I've seen vent fans that had uninsulated duct and that was condensing and causing mold in the roof of the bathroom.
Speaker BSo it doesn't take much.
Speaker BYou could have a steam shower where it's condensing in the shower and you're not running the fan long enough.
Speaker BAnd of course, you've got lots of issues there.
Speaker BSo these are all things that I want you to take into account, because this mold can be a big deal.
Speaker BAnd I have found, and I don't do this every day, and I have found a ton of mold issues, especially in newer homes where they built them tighter, they didn't ventilate well, and people were not monitoring humidity.
Speaker BAnd homes with basements are especially troublesome because you can have a bare concrete wall in a basement and water just seeping through that in the water vapor.
Speaker BAnd then if you stack up a bunch of cold boxes or totes, all of a sudden you've got mold growing on the wall, you've got a root growing on the.
Speaker BThe.
Speaker BOn the concrete, you've got it growing on the boxes.
Speaker BThese are all things that could happen.
Speaker BSo lots of different places for that to grow, you know.
Speaker BNow if you've got anything from allergies to asthma to things like that, I think working on trying to get your indoor air quality is a really smart idea for having a healthier air.
Speaker BBecause there are so many pollutants inside our house.
Speaker BThe better, the more you can do with that.
Speaker BIt's shocking.
Speaker BWe got dogs, and I have a robotic lg, robotic vacuum that I run almost every single day in the house.
Speaker BAnd it fills it up with pet hair.
Speaker BNow, it doesn't get all of it, because pet hair ends up getting around everywhere, especially when you have airflow.
Speaker BSo it'll come under the.
Speaker BUnder things.
Speaker BSo things that I want you to do if you have pets, make sure that what's handy if your air intake for your furnace is up high, make sure you've got that cleaned up.
Speaker BBut really monthly moving furniture like couches and beds, if, especially if you've got hardwoods, if you've got carpets are great as being a filter medium of tracking indoor pollutants.
Speaker BCarpet is just one of those things that it can track so much dirt, it can track so much dust and dander and pet hair and human skin that gets shedded off, that's another one.
Speaker BAnd so these are things to having a really good vacuum and having them professionally cleaned every few years or things that are really good with carpets.
Speaker BI don't recommend ever cleaning with the run up to your home rental store and get something.
Speaker BThose just don't do a good enough job.
Speaker BYou want something that's truck mounted and have a company come in and do it.
Speaker BThat way you get something quality.
Speaker BNow when you come back, we're going to talk more about indoor air quality just as soon as around the House returns.
Speaker BForeign.
Speaker AWelcome back to the around the House Show.
Speaker AToday we're bringing you a special best of episode from December 2023.
Speaker APacked with our favorite tips and moments.
Speaker AEric and John are taking a quick break to remodel and refresh the show.
Speaker ADon't worry, they're keeping everything you love about around the House.
Speaker AAnd we will all be back next week with a refreshingly new show.
Speaker BWelcome back to the around the House show.
Speaker BThis is where we help you get the most out of your home through information and education.
Speaker BWe've been talking indoor air quality and the things that you can do to make sure that you've got the healthiest air possible, especially in the wintertime when many of us are spending all that extra time indoors.
Speaker BNow let's talk a little bit here about some of the things that maybe you don't want to do inside your house.
Speaker BNow, one of the biggest mistakes that I see people make is and now all of these things can be remedied, but you just have to invest in the money to deal with it.
Speaker BBasement wood shops or workshops are a really tough situation because you're creating sawdust.
Speaker BIf you're going to be building stuff, you're going to be painting, sanding, you are creating a heck of a mess.
Speaker BAnd by doing that, you are putting that particulate matter in the house and that is going to really throw off your indoor air quality.
Speaker BSo if you have no other option than to have a basement workshop, then maybe what you need to do is close that area off so the air is not as best as you can.
Speaker BDon't keep that air in the basement from going upstairs.
Speaker BThat's where you need to have dust collection.
Speaker BYou're going to have to have an intake air.
Speaker BYou're going to need to have that conditioned space.
Speaker BI want to keep that as separate as possible so that air is not swapping upstairs.
Speaker BBecause when you're working with wood, some woods are poisonous, some woods can be irritants.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of different issues going on there.
Speaker BPlus, if you're staining, finishing, gluing, whatever, you can have other issues.
Speaker BSo I want to make sure that air is not going upstairs.
Speaker BSo really I want to make sure that I've got a vapor barrier to keep that air from going upstairs.
Speaker BI want to make sure that I keep the sawdust downstairs with the workshop that you're building things out of wood, that's really what I want to make sure that you're doing.
Speaker BBecause all of those things are not really great for indoor air quality.
Speaker BSo when in doubt, put it in an outside building.
Speaker BBut if you're doing it downstairs, there are ways of doing it.
Speaker BBut I tell you what, it's a big project, so just make sure you're planning that out correctly.
Speaker BNow here's another one that I've seen people trying to do now that can be troublesome as well.
Speaker BAnd this why this goes bad is the homes that I've had to go in and repair where people are renting out homes to people.
Speaker BMaybe it's a two story house and all of a sudden the basement turned into some local pot grow operation.
Speaker BAnd the problem is the humidity that was given off from that was so bad that we ended up having to basically gut the house to the studs and treat it like it was just a mold house.
Speaker BSo you will have things like particle board swelling up.
Speaker BIf you've got thermofoil cabinets.
Speaker BThermofoil means that they're a plastic wrapped cabinet door that was done in the 90s and 2000s.
Speaker BThose will swell up.
Speaker BAnd I have seen particle board countertops swell up in these homes.
Speaker BEverything else.
Speaker BAnd so do not build a basement greenhouse without a significant dehumidification system.
Speaker BAnd then you're just better doing one outside or putting in if you're going to do it in there.
Speaker BThey make inflatable ones, things like that, where the moisture won't get out.
Speaker BYour job is to keep the moisture in a space that is not just the entire basement because you want to keep that humidity down.
Speaker BThat way you're not getting that mold issue.
Speaker BAnd if you're doing sprays and things like that, it just, it's going to go sideways on you.
Speaker BSo please don't do a basement greenhouse.
Speaker BAnd for the same reason, hot tubs or pools or things like that, those need to be designed out by an engineer to make sure that you have, if you're putting a hot tub in the basement, that you have adequate ventilation, that you're not creating a mold problem down there, because I guarantee you you will unless you deal with it.
Speaker BSo in that situation, what I'd like for you to do if, hey, I'M gonna put a pool in the basement, I'm gonna put a hot tub in the basement, whatever.
Speaker BMaybe you're in a climate where that makes sense.
Speaker BThis is where you bring in the engineer to engineer a ventilation system that's going to work, that's going to dehumidify and it's gonna control that so you don't have a mold issue down there.
Speaker BSo those are all keys that I want you to think about in this process.
Speaker BWhen in doubt, try not to be doing those things inside the house because that will really do a lot of damage that are hard to recover from.
Speaker BSo please spend a little time on that and you'll be a.
Speaker BOkay.
Speaker BNow one of the other things I want to talk about here is that you can jump on Amazon and buy really inexpensive vacuums.
Speaker BIn investing in a good HEPA rated vacuum is key because if you're vacuuming up pet hair or you've got lots of carpets, you want to have something that's going to really work well and pull as much dirt, dander, hair, whatever out of that carpet.
Speaker BSo these are things that I really want you to think about getting a good system.
Speaker BThere's some nice.
Speaker BIf you're building a new house, I've seen people put in the automatic systems where you've got the whole house ventilation system for the vacuum.
Speaker BSo you've got a built in vacuum system where you got the ports in the walls, that kind of system.
Speaker BThose can be great because it puts the situation out in the garage out there where the bag and stuff is.
Speaker BBut I really like bag systems better.
Speaker BThere's nothing wrong with a good Dyson vacuum, but to me, I really like a good vacuum bag with a HEPA filtration system in it.
Speaker BIt's going to work so much better and it's really going to filter out the dust.
Speaker BSo when you capture the dust in it, it's going to stay in there versus kicking a little bit out.
Speaker BSo those are all things to consider when looking at vacuums.
Speaker BBut vacuums are an important part of this whole entire system and making sure that you've got things clean.
Speaker BAll right, everybody, that's enough about indoor air quality for today.
Speaker BThe rest of this I wanted to talk about building codes, building permits, building inspections, whether remodeling or you're having a new house built.
Speaker BAnd especially if you're having a new house built.
Speaker BBecause let's talk about it here in the United States building code and generally it is stricter than what is in Canada.
Speaker BFrom what I've seen and Please feel free to send me more information if you think of the contrary, because I'm not operating up in Canada every day.
Speaker BBut usually we have stricter code here in many instances than in Canada.
Speaker BOf course there's got to be some exceptions, but generally that's the case.
Speaker BBut here's the problem that I have.
Speaker BBuilding code is great for your health, safety and welfare.
Speaker BThey make you put in GFCI outlets.
Speaker BThey make you put in many cases in most states here in the US bath fans that go to the outside, ventilation and that load is carried correctly.
Speaker BBut I have seen plenty of homes that met building code, that were horribly constructed.
Speaker BAs far as craftsmanship.
Speaker BI have been to homes that had massive bows and a wall.
Speaker BEverything is out of square, nothing is right.
Speaker BBut it perfectly met building code because it was a safe structure.
Speaker BIt just looked absolutely horrible.
Speaker BAnd so that's where the issue comes in when you're building a home, if you are having a house built.
Speaker BAnd this is what I wanted to talk about a little bit today in this segment and the next is that a building inspector should be involved in this process.
Speaker BNow I'm not talking about the city, county, state, whoever is is implementing your code, but you should have benchmarks at which your third party inspector comes in and looks at things.
Speaker BNow here's the issue.
Speaker BWe do not have a general building inspector code across the country.
Speaker BSo some states you have to be very well educated, you have to have taken tests.
Speaker BOther states, it's a free for all.
Speaker BNow, in many states, the liability of that building inspector that you're paying to have a house inspection done, their liability in many states is only the cost of what you paid them.
Speaker BSo if you paid them $500 to come out and do a full inspection, their liability is $500.
Speaker BUnfortunately for you, you don't have much recourse.
Speaker BAnd so that's something to consider with all this.
Speaker BBut there are a lot of great building inspectors out there that care about their work, that know what they're doing and are trying to hold people accountable for building things correctly.
Speaker BNow that is the issue here, is that you want to make sure that everything was installed correctly because you can have a shower built to building code and still have a leak.
Speaker BYou can have ventilation systems that don't work that meet code or undersized oversized H vac systems.
Speaker BYou see where I'm going here.
Speaker BNow when we come back, we'll talk a little bit more about the places and I think the times that you should have those inspections, we'll do that Just as soon as around the House returns.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AWelcome back to the around the house show.
Speaker AToday we're bringing you a special best of episode from December 2023, packed with our favorite tips and moments.
Speaker AEric and John are taking a quick break to remodel and refresh the show.
Speaker ADon't worry.
Speaker AThey're keeping everything you love about around the house.
Speaker AAnd we will all be back next week with a refreshingly new show.
Speaker BWelcome back to the around the house show.
Speaker BThis is where we help you get the the most out of your home through information and education.
Speaker BEarlier in this hour, we were sure talking about healthy air in your home, and now we're talking about having those inspections done correctly.
Speaker BAnd that is an inspector that is really making sure that the home that you're purchasing, building, or whatever has been done correctly.
Speaker BNow, if you're having a house built or even having things remodeled, I like to have certain stages that makes sense to me.
Speaker BAs a minimum, I would like to see an inspector come by and check out rough framing for you.
Speaker BAnd if you really want to be found somebody good, if they want to pop in right before the concrete pour for the foundation or slab on grade, that would be amazing because so many times I have seen concrete pours that the builder got really lazy on.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of great builders, but there's a lot of not so great builders as well.
Speaker BAnd maybe the builder is great, but his subcontractor wasn't paying attention.
Speaker BI have showed up at a job site that I was watching because I had a friend's house getting built popped up in this development, a very large home builder, and they're pouring the driveway and the garage.
Speaker BAnd I'm watching this happen.
Speaker BAnd it's in the middle of summertime and the ground is so dry that when the concrete is hitting, no, they didn't put gravel down.
Speaker BThey didn't do any base.
Speaker BThey didn't do anything.
Speaker BThey're just pouring it right over the terrain.
Speaker BIt was so dry that it was putting dust clouds up when the concrete was hitting.
Speaker BAnd you know something, if there's not an inspector there, nobody knows any different.
Speaker BBut that dry ground is going to suck all the moisture out and that concrete is not going to cure correctly.
Speaker BAnd because they didn't do the right base, it's not compacted correctly.
Speaker BThat's gonna flake, crack, crumble, and you've got a hot mess going.
Speaker BSo these are the things that I would really like to see done.
Speaker BI want to see these things taken a look at by Somebody that is a third party inspector.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of good ones out there.
Speaker BSo framing, they're gonna go through and make sure that corners weren't cut.
Speaker BSometimes something I'll meet building code, but there's a massive gap there, or it meets code, or the walls aren't straight.
Speaker BI'd like to see somebody walk around and put a level on things.
Speaker BGreat example.
Speaker BI saw a house that had met building code that was here in Oregon.
Speaker BIt was in eastern Oregon that I went down to take a look at, and this house was being built.
Speaker BNow, it was one of the foam concrete poured houses.
Speaker BSo they put the Lego blocks together, one of the ICF houses, and they were building this.
Speaker BNow here's what's crazy with this.
Speaker BThey poured it on a windy day.
Speaker BThat foam block wall that was hollow, that had concrete going in, it had a curvature of a sail on the back of the house.
Speaker BHe was at 4 inches in the middle.
Speaker BProblem is, nobody caught it.
Speaker BHouse got built.
Speaker BSomebody walks out there and goes, what is going on with this wall?
Speaker BIt perfectly met building code.
Speaker BThere was nothing structurally wrong with that wall at all.
Speaker BEngineer probably could have looked at it, went, yeah, we're good.
Speaker BBut the issues that we had there was that now the entire inside of the house really needed to be framed out because nothing was going to be square.
Speaker BAnd then when you looked at the outside of the house, it looked horrible.
Speaker BYou could see that there's a big radius back to the wall.
Speaker BAnd so that was causing a ton of problems.
Speaker BSo these are things that I want to see you get caught up with.
Speaker BAnd then as you go down the list here, what I'd like to see is you get that framing one done, and then that way they're checking right before drywall.
Speaker BI'd like to see that.
Speaker BI wouldn't mind seeing one in insulation because I want to make sure things are sealed up correctly.
Speaker BBut really, the next thing is going to be towards final.
Speaker BWhen things are getting wrapped up, right when they're coming in, putting the trim on things, that's where I want to see somebody eyeball that.
Speaker BAnd I know this costs money, guys, but this is really.
Speaker BIf you're having a house built, this is really where I want to see these benchmarks placed.
Speaker BAnd then when the project is done, is the time that you do this.
Speaker BOkay, before you go do a walkthrough, send them through and make sure that everything is done.
Speaker BAnd they're going to be there for a number of hours.
Speaker BThey're going to check to make sure Every light switch works, every outlet is on that.
Speaker BThe garage door openers where everything is done.
Speaker BAnd they're going to go through and take a look at the walls and they're going to go around and hit the blue tape.
Speaker BAnytime there's damage, they're going to go knock that out.
Speaker BAnd what's cool with this is that they're doing this before you even get a chance to walk through it.
Speaker BThat way they can eyeball it, then the builder has a chance to go look at it, they can re inspect it and then you come out and take a look at it that way.
Speaker BThere's some accountability there.
Speaker BNow just as an important step of this is really as you get this done, what I want to do is make sure that they do an inspection again at, at the right before the end of the warranty period.
Speaker BSo let's say that your state that you're in, the builder offers a one year warranty and that's what code is great.
Speaker BThat's what's cool about that.
Speaker BSo all you do is you go in there and at 11 months to 12, you go ahead and go and have that inspection done.
Speaker BSo if there's anything on the warranty period or you can get that caught.
Speaker BYou would not believe the things that I have seen caught at this final walkthrough.
Speaker BI have seen where it framing it was great.
Speaker BBut when they loaded too many shingles on the roof, they broke a truss where there was a weak point in a truss and they broke a truss.
Speaker BI have seen where the H vac system is jam packed full of construction debris.
Speaker BI have seen crawl spaces with trash and all this other stuff.
Speaker BThese are all those things that I want them to take care of that you don't have to worry about it.
Speaker BAnd that's the thing there.
Speaker BSo make sure that and make sure that your inspector doesn't have a relationship with the builder.
Speaker BI don't want to see any conflicts of interest here.
Speaker BI don't want your builder to go, oh, the guy that usually inspects our houses is this.
Speaker BIf they're working together, that's the last thing you want.
Speaker BYou want somebody that's going after you, your best interests.
Speaker BSo look for somebody that has building knowledge, like maybe they were a builder themselves and decided to get into this.
Speaker BCheck their certifications, check what their insurance is, check their online reviews.
Speaker BAnd I tell you what, online reviews can be tough.
Speaker BTake a look at them anyway, but keep it with a grain of salt.
Speaker BTraditionally with online reviews, the people that had a wonderful experience and this guy if they saved them thousands of dollars, most likely they're not jumping on Google or whatever to do to give them praises.
Speaker BBut it's the people that they missed will come on there and make the loudest noise.
Speaker BSo you want to make sure if they've got a couple bad reviews, that happens.
Speaker BInspectors are not going to be perfect and nor should you expect them to be perfect, but they should be able to catch obvious stuff out there so the more you can find out about them.
Speaker BAnd their qualifications are great.
Speaker BAnd it depends on what state you're in.
Speaker BThere are a lot of great states with great programs that are there to protect the homeowner.
Speaker BFor instance, in my state, Oregon, the Oregon Construction Contractor Board regulates home inspections in the state.
Speaker BSo you have to complete the state's qualifying points and documentations form, complete an application, pay 150 bucks for certification and renewals every two years, and then you have to pass the NHIE exam.
Speaker BAnd that's what you have to do.
Speaker BPennsylvania does not license its home inspectors.
Speaker BAnd that's where you start to look at stuff.
Speaker BSo here's where, like South Carolina, they have.
Speaker BThe South Carolina Residential Builders Commission does.
Speaker BAnd so these are things here the South Dakota Real Estate Commission oversees.
Speaker BSo you have these different inspectors out there.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of states out there.
Speaker BUtah does not regulate it, another great example there.
Speaker BSo really take your time, understand what's going on in your state, what's happening.
Speaker BAnd different states have different rules.
Speaker BAnd this is really interesting.
Speaker BI want to.
Speaker BHere's what I like.
Speaker BAlabama, for instance, good job, guys.
Speaker BAnd no program is perfect, but you have to file your license examination.
Speaker BYou go in and do that.
Speaker BYou have to do your examination board, go through all this stuff.
Speaker BI love this.
Speaker BProvide proof of insurance and includes a $250,000 for errors and emissions and proof of liability insurance in the amount of $20,000 for injury and damages to property.
Speaker BKeeps going on.
Speaker BBut I love that these guys.
Speaker BAlabama, hats off.
Speaker BWell done.
Speaker BSo there's a lot of states out there that we needed to be doing more to make sure that we're protecting the homeowners out there.
Speaker BAnd there's a lot of states that do.
Speaker BThere's a lot of states that don't.
Speaker BTake your time, understand what's going on in your area because this is a really important part.
Speaker BGeorgia, Hawaii, Idaho, all do not have that.
Speaker BSo I would make sure you know that you find people that are good.
Speaker BTake your time, protect yourself, find the right inspector and save yourself some money in the long run.
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