Say you know, what you're about ready to say isn't cause damage for both parties.
Speaker ASay it's gonna cause damage to both parties, yourself and the other person.
Speaker AIt depends on you not speaking upon it.
Speaker AWhat if you don't go home and start questioning yourself?
Speaker AWhat if you actually truthfully gave it to the universe or the Omniverse and say, hey, you deal with this situation.
Speaker AIt's out of my hands now.
Speaker BAll right, rafiki.
Speaker BNow let me reverse that.
Speaker BHow many people don't say today, homeboy?
Speaker BTheir home girl, hey, you need to stop drinking.
Speaker BHey, you need to stop doing that.
Speaker BYou know what I'm saying?
Speaker BBecause why they want to still be cool with that, homeboy?
Speaker BBut then.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker BAnd they sitting up there watching that person dig themselves for early grave.
Speaker CBut.
Speaker BBut.
Speaker CSo here's my question, all right?
Speaker CWould that be a true friend?
Speaker BWhat?
Speaker CBy not saying nothing?
Speaker BHey,
Speaker Cbecause, I mean, I. I don't know what type of folks out there that.
Speaker CThat I'm sure it is, but the relationship me and my homies got.
Speaker CWhatever it is, tell me.
Speaker CWhat.
Speaker BWhat.
Speaker CWhatever it is.
Speaker BYes, but mentally, but.
Speaker BBut mental.
Speaker BYou know, people like.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BYes.
Speaker BPeople around them.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd that's not healthy for anybody in that circle.
Speaker CNobody in that circle is.
Speaker AIs.
Speaker AIs.
Speaker CIs in a healthy spot by trying to be a people pleaser or.
Speaker AWell, okay, okay, let me.
Speaker ALet me.
Speaker ALet me throw this back at you, Mitchell, since you brought.
Speaker ABrought that.
Speaker AThat aspect up.
Speaker AWhat if that person is in a state?
Speaker AThey're in a manic state.
Speaker AThat's the reason why they're drinking.
Speaker AThey're in that manic state now, right?
Speaker AYou can't talk to somebody truthfully when they're drunk due to the simple fact that they're gonna rage because they're in that manic state already, but they're 10 times worse because they're drinking.
Speaker ASo you don't want to really talk to them then, right?
Speaker ASo you got to wait.
Speaker AThe timing has to be correct in order for it to get to full effect.
Speaker ASo if I see someone that's in a manic state and they're drinking because they're in that manic state state, it should have caused harm to me and them.
Speaker AI have to wait until I catch them sober and tell them, listen, I'd rather you not drink when you're in such a.
Speaker ASuch state of mind.
Speaker ADon't drink while you're doing that, because if you're doing that, you're gonna cause damage to yourself in this relationship.
Speaker ASo there is other aspects about.
Speaker CI Gotta play a Paul.
Speaker CI gotta hear the devil's advocate.
Speaker CWhat if this drunk friend, while you're waiting on them to sober up, they leave from wherever you guys are at in their car and kill somebody?
Speaker BHey, can I add something too to that?
Speaker BMental?
Speaker AGo ahead.
Speaker BHey, rafiki, while you waiting on that person to sober up, are they.
Speaker BIs that person stepping on my time boundary?
Speaker AI mean.
Speaker AI mean, we could go.
Speaker AGo different directions with this all night.
Speaker BYeah, I know.
Speaker BThat's why.
Speaker BThat's why I threw that.
Speaker BThat's why I threw that out there just to add wood.
Speaker BMental, Because I ain't think about it until he said waiting on that friend.
Speaker BAnd when you wait on something, that takes time.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AYou're right.
Speaker BAnd I remember.
Speaker BAnd I remember from your list boundary around your time.
Speaker ARight, right.
Speaker AUnderstand.
Speaker CSo now when you talk to them later, waiting on them to stole up.
Speaker CNow they got two ass whoopings.
Speaker AI'm just saying most people will.
Speaker AWill want to wait.
Speaker CNot.
Speaker CNot me.
Speaker CNot.
Speaker CNot me and my homies.
Speaker AYou do have some that will go hit it head on and not worry about the consequences as far as the lash back.
Speaker AAnd if they lose the friendship because they're telling them the truth, you do have people like that that would just say, hey, look, I'm taking your damn keys.
Speaker AYour car is coming home with me.
Speaker AIf you want to ride with me, you could ride with me.
Speaker ABut no, you've.
Speaker AYou're cut out for tonight.
Speaker BI gotta.
Speaker BNow, now, I'm.
Speaker BI'm about to throw a boomerang question at y'.
Speaker BAll.
Speaker BNow, we.
Speaker BThis whole time we've been talking to people about boundaries, setting healthy boundaries and all of that, right?
Speaker ASee, I haven't even gotten into techniques yet.
Speaker AI mean, I got one.
Speaker CThat's.
Speaker AI got one.
Speaker CI hope you ain't.
Speaker BNo, no, I'm.
Speaker BHere's the question.
Speaker BDo you.
Speaker BIs there an example when someone should step over somebody's boundaries?
Speaker ABasically, that's.
Speaker AThat's what I was saying when I was talking about the.
Speaker AThe person that's in a manic state and they're drinking on top of it, making it worse.
Speaker AThat would be one in my eyes anyway.
Speaker BAll right, how about you, mentor?
Speaker BYou thinking.
Speaker ANo, can't think of one.
Speaker BAll right, simple answer.
Speaker BWhen.
Speaker BWhen that boundary they have is unhealthy.
Speaker BNow, what if I told you, Rafiki, I step over boundaries all the time?
Speaker AOh, you probably do.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd.
Speaker BAnd people.
Speaker BPeople pay me to do it.
Speaker BCan you tell.
Speaker BDo you know when I step over boundaries, when I say I step over boundaries all the time.
Speaker CYou do readings?
Speaker BYes.
Speaker AWell, I was about to say the same thing, but here's the thing about it is.
Speaker BWait, wait.
Speaker AGave you permission, though.
Speaker BYes, but, but how do you think I do it though?
Speaker BWhy do you think I have to do it in a reading?
Speaker ADue to the simple fact that you're pulling up stuff that they may not want brought up, but you got to bring it up so they see the evidence, the evidential side up.
Speaker BAnd so, and so I might bring up something that somebody really don't want to talk about or really want to go there, but I got to push, push past that boundary.
Speaker BAnd for them, if we really want to get to the healing moment.
Speaker AExactly.
Speaker BSo yeah, that was an example of, you know, somebody has a.
Speaker BHey, I don't, I don't want you to talk about that because I'm fearful of that aspect.
Speaker BHey, I don't want you to talk about that because I'm in denial of that.
Speaker BRight?
Speaker BHey, but then, hey, I'm talking about this with you because it ain't about you.
Speaker BIt's about my karma.
Speaker BAnd if I don't tell you
Speaker Aright,
Speaker Byou know, that would go back to having.
Speaker BYes, meant what you were talking about.
Speaker BMental.
Speaker BHey, if something you ain't, somebody ain't your friend if they can't tell you the hard stuff.
Speaker BSo with that being said, Rafiki, back to you.
Speaker ASo when we're getting into these techniques, the reason why techniques are important because it helps create a clear guideline, rules and limits on how you would like to be treated.
Speaker AOne is visualizing and then name your limits.
Speaker AAnother one is openly communicate your boundaries.
Speaker AAnother one is as in, as in
Speaker Byou got to tell somebody, hey, I don't like this, this, this, this, and this.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker BAll right, go ahead.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd another one is once you openly communicate them, hold up to your boundaries.
Speaker BAs in, hey, as in go, go ahead.
Speaker AAs in don't be afraid to say no.
Speaker BYeah.
Speaker BSo hey, when this person, when this person, you lay out the boundaries and this person step, you supposed to look at him, say, hey, didn't I tell you I ain't like that.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AYou're supposed to tell them now.
Speaker BNow do you, do you like baseball, Rafiki?
Speaker ANot really.
Speaker BOh, all right, so you.
Speaker ABut I follow it.
Speaker ABut I'll follow it.
Speaker BDo you follow the 1, 2, 3 strikes you out rule or you give how many strikes you usually like to should.
Speaker BHow many strikes does somebody give somebody of.
Speaker BOf boundary stepping?
Speaker AI would say at least three.
Speaker BHow about you, man?
Speaker CAt least three for Me once, shame fool me twice, shame on me Ain't no third, not to me.
Speaker BSo you won a one and done.
Speaker CI set the boundaries and I tell you hey.
Speaker CAnd you step it again.
Speaker CYou already knew.
Speaker CSo I guess.
Speaker CI guess I give him three.
Speaker CI guess I give them three.
Speaker BAll right.
Speaker AI guess basically that, you know,
Speaker BI guess three would be safe.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CBecause, you know, maybe they did forget the first one.
Speaker CSo the second one is just a friendly reminder, you know.
Speaker BOkay, so.
Speaker BSo here's a question to both of y' all or whoever wants to answer.
Speaker BWhat if somebody's at chance number nine?
Speaker CNo, we wouldn't have gotten.
Speaker CWe wouldn't have got that far.
Speaker BI ain't saying you.
Speaker BI ain't saying y', all, too.
Speaker BI'm saying, what do you think about that person?
Speaker BThat person.
Speaker BWho.
Speaker BWho?
Speaker BThat person.
Speaker BWait, hold on.
Speaker BWhat do you think about that person who allows someone to get to number nine?
Speaker CThey need to stand up for themselves.
Speaker BHow about you, Rafiki?
Speaker AI was one of those people.
Speaker ASo I can talk about this.
Speaker BThat's right.
Speaker BI was one of those people.
Speaker ANow it's a.
Speaker AIt's three strikes and you're out.
Speaker ABut prior to me getting up to that, leading up to that, I used to be that person that would give them chance after chance after chance after chance due to the simple fact that I was at People Please.
Speaker BI do have a question after that, but I know we're trying to.
Speaker BWe're gonna.
Speaker BWhy it.
Speaker BI just ask Rafiki.