Martin: Eagle Net cost Welcome to Ego Netcost live streaming.
My name is Martin Lindeskook.
Today is still first day in America, so I will
use the Mjolnir Thor's hammer for Torstog in Swedish and ventilate a bit about the topic.
And today's title was the right of to protest.
And I looked at the Wikipedia thing there
about protest thing, what you're to demonstrate and then if you know about the
term expression useful idiot.
And I will include that in the show notes when
I editing this into a podcast episode of ego Netcast podcast, I think it's 135, I believe
it is.
So that's an expression that also will
include, as I said, it could sound harsh, but it's interesting words meaning an expression
useful idiot.
And it has a connection together with the
right to protest and people who are very keen on demonstrating.
And I have a note card here for the live viewers on model 1927, written by hand, a
pencil in order to keep track here.
Again, I want to have this short and sweet for
my own sake and for you as a listener and watcher viewer to have it around 15 minutes.
This topic could talk a long time, that's for sure.
And again you could wonder why talk about this?
Is it useful to do? But it triggered me.
And then, as I will say at the ending, I wanted to get it out in my way on my platform,
because I have an expression here at the end that I will made up expression what could
happen on the Internet and by having arguing online.
And I've been there for a long time, but also back in the day it was, you could have argued
on bulletin boards, bbs, and then you had to put in a hashtag with your topic name, for
example, as we did Lyceum, where the channel called Lyceum and talking about Rand's
philosophy, objectivism.
And there we had certain ground rules, what,
how you have the debate and discussion and discourse and what was allowed to say, and not
because it was our so called room.
And then of course you have to follow a room
of interrelated chat also and freedom of expression.
And that's the whole thing that we're coming to here as an introduction here.
It's already some minutes here and I was a bit late also, so you have to take it what it is.
I will try to do this as a routine and see if I get going here in order to create content.
So I saw an Instagram photo and a post on the Swedish Britain, you party in Gothenburg,
Sweden called the Democrats and they have said that so called a camp, tent camp of
demonstrators that have could say occupied.
And this is where it gets complicated.
The university area.
Gothenburg University.
University of Gothenburg.
On a hill.
You could say it's middle of the city, so you'll see it.
And that was my personal reaction, to see these tents, camps with this flag by the so
called palestinian territory.
And also, of course, I'm for freedom
expression.
It's a satire, but it was of a prime minister
with blood on his face.
And then all kind of.
And I don't like that expression, but hate speech against Israel in different ways.
Sometimes it's so called between the lines.
And then you hear, probably when you hear and
listen to this, when we are shouting and propaganda and the microphones.
And also if you talk in another language, it can be in different ways.
I come back to this in the future.
So it's so called some students, but it seems
to be other elements that what I wrote in the description.
Also, if you know about the elements, and that has to do with the term useful idiots who are
demonstrating who is behind this, what kind of elements, who is supporting this kind of
thing.
Because I'm, as they say, Elon Musk is free
speech absolutist.
And I am that also, even with things that I
don't agree with.
I know, and this is where the scary part comes
in.
If some of these elements will gain power, I
will not be allowed to speak up, that's for sure.
Because if you speak up for freedom of expression, free speech, rational ideas, free
society, free market, what could happen then? And that we have seen during the history.
So it was a post by a party in Gothenburg, the Democrats, that said that these tent camps
occupying the university area in Gothenburg, middle of Gothenburg, in the city, that's
illegal.
They don't have any permission.
When you do a regular demonstration walking, you have to ask for a permit from police.
And then again, I have solution to this problem.
And also if you really have a right to demonstrate whenever on so called, and I do an
air quote here on public land in a city or a university.
And that's again, that's the crux of a problem.
Why this getting so complicated? Because it's pretty easy in a way.
And I know individuals who really going to digging into this rules about having
demonstration permits, what to do.
Because this is a political agenda, this is
political correctness and pushing some lobbyists and others.
If some other views will come across that I don't either agree with, then it will probably
be some other decisions.
But that also have happened back in the day.
And they are pretty similar.
That's the thing.
They are united against Israel, the National Socialists, the regular socialists and the
militant Muslims against Israel.
And for the record, I'm not a religious
person.
I'm not for the so called corkscrews, orthodox
Jews that have special rights, so to speak.
And the Knesset is, you could say, in a mess,
in a way the political situation is instable.
I think Netanyahu, yao, or how you say him, is
too weak that you don't often hear.
They think that he is in hawk, but that's his
problem there.
And I think hopefully a so called middle class
in Israel, a secular middle class, will come up with a party or a movement to have real
stable secular society.
And.
Yeah, so the whole situation and of course historical.
And now we're going on tangent here already around ten minutes, the history and the word
Palestine and the former word of Israel and how they did this map and how we draw the
lines and the maps.
And then of course, United nations declaration
there with Israel as a state and so on.
But I said on my comment here on the Democrats
in Gutenberg, thanks for supporting a secular Gothenburg and then used the atheist symbol or
the nuclear symbol, the purple one.
Now I'm drawing, see, like this.
And then in the middle dot the nuclear power and symbol of atheism.
And that's the absence of God.
I'm not.
It's not the perfect definition of myself, but in this case I use it.
So when I comment on that it was a person without real name.
Of course, you could always find them.
I think this person, I think it's.
He did the selfie and so on in his own photo, Instagram photos.
But he said something common to me.
What do you mean by secular?
And why is the Democrats, the Democrat party in Gothenburg, why are they for that?
And the so called right to protest or demonstrate or really to occupy a property, a
land in the city near the university.
So it looks sms.
It's not nice to see.
It's been there for a long time.
They are in the way of traffic and others.
It looks, as I said, ugly.
It's not a nice symbol, we could say, for learning in university.
But then the commentators say that we should have this.
And then I comment back and then he comment back again.
And that got me thinking, should I continue with this, to comment or come up with a
response? And I know individuals that have really worked
on this issue and problem, so I will come back with that.
But then I mentioned that these who called protesters and demonstrators were against
Israel for some reason, and they are for and supporter of Hamas in one way or another, and
other terrorist organizations that are listed as terrorist organizations.
So then I commented also linking to a son of Hamas founders.
Now, as you pronounce the name right, Musab Hassan Youssef.
So include that in Michonne podcast episode.
He was the son of a Hamas founder, and now he
fled where I'm coming from, if it was Palestine, so called Palestine, or Lebanon, or
some other place in the Middle east, and then move to America.
That said, it's interesting that the so called leaders of Hamas, many of them.
Where are they located? Have a guess.
I think one place is like Qatar or something like that.
Maybe Saudi Arabia, I don't know.
But that's something you could follow, so
called the money, and that's the aid money that's going to.
That are controlled by the UN so called educational school system.
And what they are teaching in these schools about Israel, about youth and the hatred
coming there, and how male students, how they learn from an early age.
And I will find a video including that in to hate the use being against Israel.
And then take up arms and join Hamas.
That is a terrorist organization.
And recently it was an incident here in Gothenburg by a leftist left party or its
former communist party in Gothenburg.
And there it was an organizer there that I've
done lots of protests and demonstrations in the public.
And he and I don't know, the cameras, or how do you call it, overview cameras, ECTs or ETCs
or whatever it's called, cameras.
Who started the fight, where it was a
journalist that had been writing for the Gutenberg Post.
And now he's more like you could say, independent citizen journalist.
And he get support from the viewers and so on.
And he had done some research on this leftist
party member representing left party in goodwill and wanted to ask things about that.
And this guy supposedly then hit him and to the ground, took his phone.
And we'll see how that Fred is going, if you do a search on that.
So again, this guy, the commentator on the Democrats thread, but I will comment it as a
support for what we are saying that therefore freedom of expression as myself.
But it's illegal what they are doing now.
They have done this now for a long time,
occupied this area, messing things up and having these tents and all these things that
we have in this area.
So do they have a permission to be there?
What's this land? Who's owning that?
Are you allowed to do this kind of thing? And then this commentator said something about
the European Commission.
Then I had to search for it in order to
protest or demonstrate.
And that articles nine to eleven.
And that's talking about freedom of expression, freedom of, how you say, joined
groups and movements and freedom of speech.
But then also to have peaceful demonstrations.
And the word is peaceful.
And what's going on in this occupied area of
the university land is not so peaceful, I think.
So that's something to think about.
And who's behind these elements?
And are they students of Gothenburg University or they're coming from others?
This is coming back to the day.
And I'm not a fan of Bush's former presidents,
but when he came, and when I was in America, came for a visit to Gothenburg, it was this
rally in Gothenburg.
People taking up stones from the roads,
throwing it.
It was a mess, total mess.
And then the police had to come in, because these were organized around Europe, called the
zoo, called the streets, demonstrators of a street or something like that.
And this occupy movement.
And it was total a mess.
These are organized in different ways.
I did a so called back in the day, a pro
counter demonstra demonstration.
One person, one individual with an american
flag.
And I didn't interrupt the demonstration.
I was standing on central of Sweden, near the Poseidon statue on the avenue in Gothenburg,
and talked to the police.
And there it was, this crowd against so called
american war, against Iraq and the dictator Saddam Hussein.
So there was support for dictator Saddam Hussein against the so called invasion.
And what, and I say for record, it was not the best way to do it.
They should have attacked the dictators and the ayatollahs in Iran, because that's the
center of terrorism.
Supporting organizations like Hamas.
In their case, it's more Hezbollah, what I know about.
And that we could come back for another day.
What's the so called difference and
resemblance? And they unite against a common enemy, plot
different forms of Islam, Shiites and whatnot.
So do you have the right to do this and what's
the solution? And when I search for my favorite author and
philosopher Rand, Miss Rand, about articles and essays about this, and I found that I will
link and read again and see what saying the title was the cash in colonization, the
student rebellion.
Because back in the day, in the seventies, it
was almost you were left leaning, or you were even more left like a communist, or even more.
And that's all the splinter groups that's happening.
And also her essay called man's rights about property rights.
Now take a sip of tea here.
Cheers.
Drinking english breakfast black tea blend.
So the solution for this is what's property
rights and do the university.
And this is getting complicated because it's
like a so called public education institution, I think.
It's not a private one.
So who's owning the land?
Is it the commune or is it the institution somehow how it's working but mere phase of it
to set up a tent.
Of course, if you can move it, but put it so
you can't move it and then be there for a very long time, do you have a right to do that or
could they be somewhere else? And the solution here, I have a card here to
have a positive thing about what you could learn from it.
It was a discussion between Amy peacoff on her channel, her video channel, on what's called
Bitshoot Channel, talking with Insta Pundit, blogger Glenn Reynolds, and he is in lawyer or
law professor, and he talked about how indifferent, when it was these demonstrations
in, in America, what was going on.
Some university did it in a good way,
proactive way, and some were doing it.
Yes, it got even worse.
What could you learn from that? Again, so about these different elements is
something to think about, who's behind these organizations and demonstrates and what are
they saying? As I said, I'm not for this classification of
hate speech and what's that for freedom of expression, but we have to take account and
take responsibility for what we are saying.
And these expression hate against Israel and
the support of the terrorist organizations, that's something to think about.
And again, why are they doing this? And it's this like organized and this that I
was coming to useful idiots that was used with connection with, I think it was Leonin and
others and different, again, splinter groups on the left and the communists and also here
in Europe, then how they could use useful idiots for their purposes.
So that's something to dig into more.
Who is behind this demonstration and this tent
camp and who are in the tents? And are they peaceful or are they aggressive?
And what's their goal? That's something to think about also, because
you could see all the props there with maps of so called when palestinian territory and the
history and Israel and go and read the source.
What are the Hamas organization?
What are they saying? What are they standing for?
And who attacked Israel in the beginning of the year and killed civilians and Israel
response and how, what's the solution for this problem and this situation now?
It will be more like half an hour.
I was planning of 50 minutes, but yeah, it's a
topic you could talk more about in a civilized way.
But I will do the ending here.
I will talk to a friend that is very into this
situation when I have learned about it and doing it in very great work, but the legal
things about this and how it should be done.
So she has a great project there.
So I will see if she has something coming up with something that I could share in this
comment thread, like my last remark.
But I think this person has, as I call it in
Swedish, tid posina fingerar or time on your fingers, or you have time on your hands doing
nothing.
And you had to have the so called last word
and you're sitting there with a keyboard and waiting for me to respond.
And because I said thanks for supporting a secular Gotenburg, that was it.
Of course, you could think what's that to do with the post about that it's illegal tent
camp.
But again, if you look what Hamas is standing
for, because they are supporting Hamas and call it that, it should be not listed as a
terrorist organization and whatnot.
So you have that and that again against
Israel.
It's the socialist, it's the National
Socialist and the militant Muslims, and they are religious to the core and they are reading
the so called holy scripture as the devil is doing that, and then have this hatred and
aggression and violence and terror activism.
And I can't get it how you could support these
kind of organizations.
Israel is not perfect.
They have issues.
And you also have to understand the history.
And I bought a book fair some years ago from an organization supporting a peaceful way in
Israel.
And it was very informative about the whole
history, all the details with solutions, what you could do and how we continue.
And this as a call to action.
I'm very interested as a new media advisor,
supporter of a podcast in 2.0 initiative to support freedom of expression in a peaceful
way.
We could continue the conversation and the
discourse and the debate.
But again, this commentator have some kind of
agenda, but then playing this role that I have to explain myself and probably continue to
reply and reply again and again.
I don't know what was trigger, if he is a
secular person, but Hamas supporter or whatnot, or if it's really supporting peaceful
demonstrations that I don't think this tent camp is so, but we will see and we will follow
this along here in Gothenburg, Sweden.
And if you have anything that you want to
share, any examples from your area, what's going on and if you have any ideas, what's the
elements behind these demonstrations and actions against Israel and these demonstrators
that are really supporters of terrorist organizations, for example, Hamas.
And if they are organized that have a long history of useful idiots.
And with that I say Cheerio and talk to you soon again.
Bye for now.
Sadeena Namdeh.