1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:10,638 Martin: Eagle Net cost Welcome to Ego Netcost live streaming. 2 00:00:10,734 --> 00:00:13,570 My name is Martin Lindeskook. 3 00:00:13,990 --> 00:00:19,270 Today is still first day in America, so I will 4 00:00:19,310 --> 00:00:29,530 use the Mjolnir Thor's hammer for Torstog in Swedish and ventilate a bit about the topic. 5 00:00:31,220 --> 00:00:38,080 And today's title was the right of to protest. 6 00:00:39,340 --> 00:00:41,580 And I looked at the Wikipedia thing there 7 00:00:41,620 --> 00:00:50,160 about protest thing, what you're to demonstrate and then if you know about the 8 00:00:51,460 --> 00:00:58,850 term expression useful idiot. 9 00:00:59,630 --> 00:01:02,166 And I will include that in the show notes when 10 00:01:02,198 --> 00:01:12,574 I editing this into a podcast episode of ego Netcast podcast, I think it's 135, I believe 11 00:01:12,622 --> 00:01:13,370 it is. 12 00:01:14,830 --> 00:01:17,774 So that's an expression that also will 13 00:01:17,822 --> 00:01:28,680 include, as I said, it could sound harsh, but it's interesting words meaning an expression 14 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,220 useful idiot. 15 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,112 And it has a connection together with the 16 00:01:34,296 --> 00:01:39,140 right to protest and people who are very keen on demonstrating. 17 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:50,018 And I have a note card here for the live viewers on model 1927, written by hand, a 18 00:01:50,034 --> 00:01:52,786 pencil in order to keep track here. 19 00:01:52,938 --> 00:01:55,906 Again, I want to have this short and sweet for 20 00:01:55,938 --> 00:02:03,270 my own sake and for you as a listener and watcher viewer to have it around 15 minutes. 21 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:08,190 This topic could talk a long time, that's for sure. 22 00:02:08,970 --> 00:02:12,026 And again you could wonder why talk about this? 23 00:02:12,098 --> 00:02:16,920 Is it useful to do? But it triggered me. 24 00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:26,280 And then, as I will say at the ending, I wanted to get it out in my way on my platform, 25 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:32,684 because I have an expression here at the end that I will made up expression what could 26 00:02:32,732 --> 00:02:39,360 happen on the Internet and by having arguing online. 27 00:02:40,180 --> 00:02:46,786 And I've been there for a long time, but also back in the day it was, you could have argued 28 00:02:46,858 --> 00:02:55,938 on bulletin boards, bbs, and then you had to put in a hashtag with your topic name, for 29 00:02:55,954 --> 00:03:02,130 example, as we did Lyceum, where the channel called Lyceum and talking about Rand's 30 00:03:02,170 --> 00:03:04,242 philosophy, objectivism. 31 00:03:04,426 --> 00:03:07,814 And there we had certain ground rules, what, 32 00:03:07,962 --> 00:03:14,934 how you have the debate and discussion and discourse and what was allowed to say, and not 33 00:03:15,022 --> 00:03:17,190 because it was our so called room. 34 00:03:17,270 --> 00:03:19,070 And then of course you have to follow a room 35 00:03:19,110 --> 00:03:23,590 of interrelated chat also and freedom of expression. 36 00:03:23,630 --> 00:03:28,342 And that's the whole thing that we're coming to here as an introduction here. 37 00:03:28,486 --> 00:03:34,372 It's already some minutes here and I was a bit late also, so you have to take it what it is. 38 00:03:34,476 --> 00:03:43,000 I will try to do this as a routine and see if I get going here in order to create content. 39 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:56,236 So I saw an Instagram photo and a post on the Swedish Britain, you party in Gothenburg, 40 00:03:56,388 --> 00:04:09,116 Sweden called the Democrats and they have said that so called a camp, tent camp of 41 00:04:09,188 --> 00:04:15,120 demonstrators that have could say occupied. 42 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:18,560 And this is where it gets complicated. 43 00:04:19,300 --> 00:04:22,404 The university area. 44 00:04:22,532 --> 00:04:25,240 Gothenburg University. 45 00:04:26,050 --> 00:04:27,690 University of Gothenburg. 46 00:04:27,810 --> 00:04:28,530 On a hill. 47 00:04:28,610 --> 00:04:32,450 You could say it's middle of the city, so you'll see it. 48 00:04:32,490 --> 00:04:40,194 And that was my personal reaction, to see these tents, camps with this flag by the so 49 00:04:40,242 --> 00:04:43,082 called palestinian territory. 50 00:04:43,226 --> 00:04:45,898 And also, of course, I'm for freedom 51 00:04:45,954 --> 00:04:46,410 expression. 52 00:04:46,450 --> 00:04:49,890 It's a satire, but it was of a prime minister 53 00:04:50,010 --> 00:04:51,594 with blood on his face. 54 00:04:51,722 --> 00:04:53,950 And then all kind of. 55 00:04:54,480 --> 00:05:02,940 And I don't like that expression, but hate speech against Israel in different ways. 56 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,280 Sometimes it's so called between the lines. 57 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,256 And then you hear, probably when you hear and 58 00:05:10,288 --> 00:05:14,540 listen to this, when we are shouting and propaganda and the microphones. 59 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:19,232 And also if you talk in another language, it can be in different ways. 60 00:05:19,376 --> 00:05:21,660 I come back to this in the future. 61 00:05:22,310 --> 00:05:26,686 So it's so called some students, but it seems 62 00:05:26,718 --> 00:05:30,342 to be other elements that what I wrote in the description. 63 00:05:30,486 --> 00:05:38,894 Also, if you know about the elements, and that has to do with the term useful idiots who are 64 00:05:39,022 --> 00:05:43,318 demonstrating who is behind this, what kind of elements, who is supporting this kind of 65 00:05:43,334 --> 00:05:43,630 thing. 66 00:05:43,710 --> 00:05:48,564 Because I'm, as they say, Elon Musk is free 67 00:05:48,612 --> 00:05:49,988 speech absolutist. 68 00:05:50,084 --> 00:05:53,788 And I am that also, even with things that I 69 00:05:53,804 --> 00:05:54,844 don't agree with. 70 00:05:54,972 --> 00:05:57,540 I know, and this is where the scary part comes 71 00:05:57,580 --> 00:05:58,092 in. 72 00:05:58,236 --> 00:06:02,028 If some of these elements will gain power, I 73 00:06:02,084 --> 00:06:05,760 will not be allowed to speak up, that's for sure. 74 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:13,044 Because if you speak up for freedom of expression, free speech, rational ideas, free 75 00:06:13,092 --> 00:06:19,994 society, free market, what could happen then? And that we have seen during the history. 76 00:06:20,162 --> 00:06:29,762 So it was a post by a party in Gothenburg, the Democrats, that said that these tent camps 77 00:06:29,946 --> 00:06:37,786 occupying the university area in Gothenburg, middle of Gothenburg, in the city, that's 78 00:06:37,858 --> 00:06:38,546 illegal. 79 00:06:38,658 --> 00:06:40,270 They don't have any permission. 80 00:06:40,580 --> 00:06:47,620 When you do a regular demonstration walking, you have to ask for a permit from police. 81 00:06:47,740 --> 00:06:51,240 And then again, I have solution to this problem. 82 00:06:51,540 --> 00:06:57,828 And also if you really have a right to demonstrate whenever on so called, and I do an 83 00:06:57,884 --> 00:07:03,716 air quote here on public land in a city or a university. 84 00:07:03,908 --> 00:07:07,452 And that's again, that's the crux of a problem. 85 00:07:07,516 --> 00:07:10,836 Why this getting so complicated? Because it's pretty easy in a way. 86 00:07:10,908 --> 00:07:20,828 And I know individuals who really going to digging into this rules about having 87 00:07:20,884 --> 00:07:24,200 demonstration permits, what to do. 88 00:07:24,660 --> 00:07:28,028 Because this is a political agenda, this is 89 00:07:28,164 --> 00:07:33,680 political correctness and pushing some lobbyists and others. 90 00:07:34,420 --> 00:07:41,468 If some other views will come across that I don't either agree with, then it will probably 91 00:07:41,524 --> 00:07:45,468 be some other decisions. 92 00:07:45,604 --> 00:07:49,000 But that also have happened back in the day. 93 00:07:49,780 --> 00:07:50,932 And they are pretty similar. 94 00:07:50,996 --> 00:07:51,540 That's the thing. 95 00:07:51,580 --> 00:08:00,526 They are united against Israel, the National Socialists, the regular socialists and the 96 00:08:00,558 --> 00:08:04,054 militant Muslims against Israel. 97 00:08:04,182 --> 00:08:06,670 And for the record, I'm not a religious 98 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:07,370 person. 99 00:08:07,910 --> 00:08:13,038 I'm not for the so called corkscrews, orthodox 100 00:08:13,094 --> 00:08:18,610 Jews that have special rights, so to speak. 101 00:08:19,310 --> 00:08:22,494 And the Knesset is, you could say, in a mess, 102 00:08:22,542 --> 00:08:27,104 in a way the political situation is instable. 103 00:08:27,302 --> 00:08:32,220 I think Netanyahu, yao, or how you say him, is 104 00:08:32,260 --> 00:08:35,040 too weak that you don't often hear. 105 00:08:35,420 --> 00:08:39,372 They think that he is in hawk, but that's his 106 00:08:39,556 --> 00:08:40,620 problem there. 107 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:44,124 And I think hopefully a so called middle class 108 00:08:44,252 --> 00:08:54,070 in Israel, a secular middle class, will come up with a party or a movement to have real 109 00:08:54,150 --> 00:08:56,206 stable secular society. 110 00:08:56,398 --> 00:08:57,062 And. 111 00:08:57,206 --> 00:09:01,390 Yeah, so the whole situation and of course historical. 112 00:09:01,470 --> 00:09:08,110 And now we're going on tangent here already around ten minutes, the history and the word 113 00:09:08,270 --> 00:09:16,406 Palestine and the former word of Israel and how they did this map and how we draw the 114 00:09:16,478 --> 00:09:18,054 lines and the maps. 115 00:09:18,222 --> 00:09:21,582 And then of course, United nations declaration 116 00:09:21,646 --> 00:09:26,490 there with Israel as a state and so on. 117 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:29,942 But I said on my comment here on the Democrats 118 00:09:30,046 --> 00:09:38,446 in Gutenberg, thanks for supporting a secular Gothenburg and then used the atheist symbol or 119 00:09:38,478 --> 00:09:41,410 the nuclear symbol, the purple one. 120 00:09:41,750 --> 00:09:45,030 Now I'm drawing, see, like this. 121 00:09:45,190 --> 00:09:53,980 And then in the middle dot the nuclear power and symbol of atheism. 122 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,912 And that's the absence of God. 123 00:09:56,976 --> 00:09:57,872 I'm not. 124 00:09:58,056 --> 00:10:04,380 It's not the perfect definition of myself, but in this case I use it. 125 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:11,304 So when I comment on that it was a person without real name. 126 00:10:11,472 --> 00:10:13,632 Of course, you could always find them. 127 00:10:13,776 --> 00:10:15,608 I think this person, I think it's. 128 00:10:15,664 --> 00:10:20,796 He did the selfie and so on in his own photo, Instagram photos. 129 00:10:20,828 --> 00:10:22,960 But he said something common to me. 130 00:10:23,260 --> 00:10:25,000 What do you mean by secular? 131 00:10:26,340 --> 00:10:33,880 And why is the Democrats, the Democrat party in Gothenburg, why are they for that? 132 00:10:34,220 --> 00:10:41,996 And the so called right to protest or demonstrate or really to occupy a property, a 133 00:10:42,028 --> 00:10:44,852 land in the city near the university. 134 00:10:45,036 --> 00:10:47,634 So it looks sms. 135 00:10:47,682 --> 00:10:49,990 It's not nice to see. 136 00:10:50,810 --> 00:10:53,070 It's been there for a long time. 137 00:10:53,730 --> 00:10:57,274 They are in the way of traffic and others. 138 00:10:57,362 --> 00:10:59,830 It looks, as I said, ugly. 139 00:11:00,570 --> 00:11:07,870 It's not a nice symbol, we could say, for learning in university. 140 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:13,026 But then the commentators say that we should have this. 141 00:11:13,058 --> 00:11:16,190 And then I comment back and then he comment back again. 142 00:11:17,410 --> 00:11:23,770 And that got me thinking, should I continue with this, to comment or come up with a 143 00:11:23,810 --> 00:11:26,962 response? And I know individuals that have really worked 144 00:11:26,986 --> 00:11:31,002 on this issue and problem, so I will come back with that. 145 00:11:31,146 --> 00:11:38,202 But then I mentioned that these who called protesters and demonstrators were against 146 00:11:38,306 --> 00:11:45,646 Israel for some reason, and they are for and supporter of Hamas in one way or another, and 147 00:11:45,678 --> 00:11:52,050 other terrorist organizations that are listed as terrorist organizations. 148 00:11:53,550 --> 00:12:01,850 So then I commented also linking to a son of Hamas founders. 149 00:12:02,270 --> 00:12:08,588 Now, as you pronounce the name right, Musab Hassan Youssef. 150 00:12:08,764 --> 00:12:13,560 So include that in Michonne podcast episode. 151 00:12:14,060 --> 00:12:19,572 He was the son of a Hamas founder, and now he 152 00:12:19,596 --> 00:12:29,092 fled where I'm coming from, if it was Palestine, so called Palestine, or Lebanon, or 153 00:12:29,116 --> 00:12:35,082 some other place in the Middle east, and then move to America. 154 00:12:35,226 --> 00:12:40,570 That said, it's interesting that the so called leaders of Hamas, many of them. 155 00:12:40,650 --> 00:12:43,470 Where are they located? Have a guess. 156 00:12:44,330 --> 00:12:48,070 I think one place is like Qatar or something like that. 157 00:12:48,370 --> 00:12:50,202 Maybe Saudi Arabia, I don't know. 158 00:12:50,226 --> 00:12:53,186 But that's something you could follow, so 159 00:12:53,218 --> 00:12:58,350 called the money, and that's the aid money that's going to. 160 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:04,784 That are controlled by the UN so called educational school system. 161 00:13:04,872 --> 00:13:12,480 And what they are teaching in these schools about Israel, about youth and the hatred 162 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:19,384 coming there, and how male students, how they learn from an early age. 163 00:13:19,432 --> 00:13:28,104 And I will find a video including that in to hate the use being against Israel. 164 00:13:28,152 --> 00:13:32,368 And then take up arms and join Hamas. 165 00:13:32,424 --> 00:13:34,540 That is a terrorist organization. 166 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:42,008 And recently it was an incident here in Gothenburg by a leftist left party or its 167 00:13:42,104 --> 00:13:45,008 former communist party in Gothenburg. 168 00:13:45,144 --> 00:13:48,008 And there it was an organizer there that I've 169 00:13:48,064 --> 00:13:52,630 done lots of protests and demonstrations in the public. 170 00:13:53,090 --> 00:14:03,834 And he and I don't know, the cameras, or how do you call it, overview cameras, ECTs or ETCs 171 00:14:03,882 --> 00:14:06,042 or whatever it's called, cameras. 172 00:14:06,186 --> 00:14:08,962 Who started the fight, where it was a 173 00:14:08,986 --> 00:14:13,230 journalist that had been writing for the Gutenberg Post. 174 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:18,590 And now he's more like you could say, independent citizen journalist. 175 00:14:19,140 --> 00:14:23,948 And he get support from the viewers and so on. 176 00:14:23,964 --> 00:14:27,520 And he had done some research on this leftist 177 00:14:28,900 --> 00:14:35,500 party member representing left party in goodwill and wanted to ask things about that. 178 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:41,044 And this guy supposedly then hit him and to the ground, took his phone. 179 00:14:41,132 --> 00:14:46,710 And we'll see how that Fred is going, if you do a search on that. 180 00:14:47,650 --> 00:14:57,042 So again, this guy, the commentator on the Democrats thread, but I will comment it as a 181 00:14:57,066 --> 00:15:02,750 support for what we are saying that therefore freedom of expression as myself. 182 00:15:03,170 --> 00:15:06,162 But it's illegal what they are doing now. 183 00:15:06,226 --> 00:15:07,858 They have done this now for a long time, 184 00:15:07,914 --> 00:15:17,692 occupied this area, messing things up and having these tents and all these things that 185 00:15:17,716 --> 00:15:19,060 we have in this area. 186 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:21,732 So do they have a permission to be there? 187 00:15:21,916 --> 00:15:24,876 What's this land? Who's owning that? 188 00:15:24,988 --> 00:15:31,292 Are you allowed to do this kind of thing? And then this commentator said something about 189 00:15:31,356 --> 00:15:33,640 the European Commission. 190 00:15:34,580 --> 00:15:37,236 Then I had to search for it in order to 191 00:15:37,268 --> 00:15:38,860 protest or demonstrate. 192 00:15:39,020 --> 00:15:41,294 And that articles nine to eleven. 193 00:15:41,412 --> 00:15:47,642 And that's talking about freedom of expression, freedom of, how you say, joined 194 00:15:47,786 --> 00:15:51,994 groups and movements and freedom of speech. 195 00:15:52,122 --> 00:15:56,430 But then also to have peaceful demonstrations. 196 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:58,870 And the word is peaceful. 197 00:15:59,210 --> 00:16:03,826 And what's going on in this occupied area of 198 00:16:03,858 --> 00:16:09,788 the university land is not so peaceful, I think. 199 00:16:09,964 --> 00:16:12,996 So that's something to think about. 200 00:16:13,188 --> 00:16:16,084 And who's behind these elements? 201 00:16:16,172 --> 00:16:20,844 And are they students of Gothenburg University or they're coming from others? 202 00:16:21,012 --> 00:16:23,284 This is coming back to the day. 203 00:16:23,332 --> 00:16:26,740 And I'm not a fan of Bush's former presidents, 204 00:16:26,780 --> 00:16:32,800 but when he came, and when I was in America, came for a visit to Gothenburg, it was this 205 00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:36,420 rally in Gothenburg. 206 00:16:36,580 --> 00:16:39,996 People taking up stones from the roads, 207 00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:41,156 throwing it. 208 00:16:41,308 --> 00:16:43,052 It was a mess, total mess. 209 00:16:43,116 --> 00:16:50,212 And then the police had to come in, because these were organized around Europe, called the 210 00:16:50,236 --> 00:16:55,436 zoo, called the streets, demonstrators of a street or something like that. 211 00:16:55,548 --> 00:16:57,196 And this occupy movement. 212 00:16:57,308 --> 00:16:59,640 And it was total a mess. 213 00:17:00,650 --> 00:17:03,210 These are organized in different ways. 214 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:06,226 I did a so called back in the day, a pro 215 00:17:06,418 --> 00:17:09,562 counter demonstra demonstration. 216 00:17:09,666 --> 00:17:12,250 One person, one individual with an american 217 00:17:12,330 --> 00:17:13,030 flag. 218 00:17:13,370 --> 00:17:15,602 And I didn't interrupt the demonstration. 219 00:17:15,666 --> 00:17:25,306 I was standing on central of Sweden, near the Poseidon statue on the avenue in Gothenburg, 220 00:17:25,458 --> 00:17:26,570 and talked to the police. 221 00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:30,218 And there it was, this crowd against so called 222 00:17:30,314 --> 00:17:35,194 american war, against Iraq and the dictator Saddam Hussein. 223 00:17:35,322 --> 00:17:41,770 So there was support for dictator Saddam Hussein against the so called invasion. 224 00:17:41,850 --> 00:17:47,050 And what, and I say for record, it was not the best way to do it. 225 00:17:47,090 --> 00:17:54,380 They should have attacked the dictators and the ayatollahs in Iran, because that's the 226 00:17:54,460 --> 00:17:55,804 center of terrorism. 227 00:17:55,932 --> 00:17:59,228 Supporting organizations like Hamas. 228 00:17:59,284 --> 00:18:03,160 In their case, it's more Hezbollah, what I know about. 229 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:06,804 And that we could come back for another day. 230 00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:08,620 What's the so called difference and 231 00:18:08,660 --> 00:18:13,748 resemblance? And they unite against a common enemy, plot 232 00:18:13,844 --> 00:18:18,502 different forms of Islam, Shiites and whatnot. 233 00:18:18,636 --> 00:18:21,842 So do you have the right to do this and what's 234 00:18:21,866 --> 00:18:26,802 the solution? And when I search for my favorite author and 235 00:18:26,826 --> 00:18:35,562 philosopher Rand, Miss Rand, about articles and essays about this, and I found that I will 236 00:18:35,586 --> 00:18:44,140 link and read again and see what saying the title was the cash in colonization, the 237 00:18:44,180 --> 00:18:45,588 student rebellion. 238 00:18:45,764 --> 00:18:48,012 Because back in the day, in the seventies, it 239 00:18:48,036 --> 00:18:55,596 was almost you were left leaning, or you were even more left like a communist, or even more. 240 00:18:55,748 --> 00:18:59,100 And that's all the splinter groups that's happening. 241 00:18:59,220 --> 00:19:06,812 And also her essay called man's rights about property rights. 242 00:19:06,916 --> 00:19:08,772 Now take a sip of tea here. 243 00:19:08,876 --> 00:19:09,600 Cheers. 244 00:19:10,120 --> 00:19:13,824 Drinking english breakfast black tea blend. 245 00:19:13,992 --> 00:19:18,944 So the solution for this is what's property 246 00:19:18,992 --> 00:19:21,608 rights and do the university. 247 00:19:21,784 --> 00:19:24,400 And this is getting complicated because it's 248 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:29,056 like a so called public education institution, I think. 249 00:19:29,088 --> 00:19:31,060 It's not a private one. 250 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,272 So who's owning the land? 251 00:19:33,336 --> 00:19:42,890 Is it the commune or is it the institution somehow how it's working but mere phase of it 252 00:19:43,050 --> 00:19:44,682 to set up a tent. 253 00:19:44,746 --> 00:19:47,242 Of course, if you can move it, but put it so 254 00:19:47,266 --> 00:19:54,882 you can't move it and then be there for a very long time, do you have a right to do that or 255 00:19:54,906 --> 00:20:00,002 could they be somewhere else? And the solution here, I have a card here to 256 00:20:00,106 --> 00:20:02,990 have a positive thing about what you could learn from it. 257 00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:13,038 It was a discussion between Amy peacoff on her channel, her video channel, on what's called 258 00:20:13,094 --> 00:20:22,710 Bitshoot Channel, talking with Insta Pundit, blogger Glenn Reynolds, and he is in lawyer or 259 00:20:22,870 --> 00:20:28,838 law professor, and he talked about how indifferent, when it was these demonstrations 260 00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:31,714 in, in America, what was going on. 261 00:20:31,842 --> 00:20:34,538 Some university did it in a good way, 262 00:20:34,594 --> 00:20:38,466 proactive way, and some were doing it. 263 00:20:38,578 --> 00:20:40,430 Yes, it got even worse. 264 00:20:41,490 --> 00:20:46,466 What could you learn from that? Again, so about these different elements is 265 00:20:46,498 --> 00:20:51,898 something to think about, who's behind these organizations and demonstrates and what are 266 00:20:51,914 --> 00:20:57,518 they saying? As I said, I'm not for this classification of 267 00:20:57,574 --> 00:21:03,814 hate speech and what's that for freedom of expression, but we have to take account and 268 00:21:03,862 --> 00:21:06,330 take responsibility for what we are saying. 269 00:21:07,230 --> 00:21:14,650 And these expression hate against Israel and 270 00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:20,334 the support of the terrorist organizations, that's something to think about. 271 00:21:20,382 --> 00:21:27,004 And again, why are they doing this? And it's this like organized and this that I 272 00:21:27,012 --> 00:21:34,660 was coming to useful idiots that was used with connection with, I think it was Leonin and 273 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:41,080 others and different, again, splinter groups on the left and the communists and also here 274 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:46,840 in Europe, then how they could use useful idiots for their purposes. 275 00:21:47,540 --> 00:21:50,548 So that's something to dig into more. 276 00:21:50,724 --> 00:21:55,720 Who is behind this demonstration and this tent 277 00:21:56,060 --> 00:22:05,840 camp and who are in the tents? And are they peaceful or are they aggressive? 278 00:22:06,580 --> 00:22:12,892 And what's their goal? That's something to think about also, because 279 00:22:12,996 --> 00:22:20,390 you could see all the props there with maps of so called when palestinian territory and the 280 00:22:20,430 --> 00:22:25,198 history and Israel and go and read the source. 281 00:22:25,254 --> 00:22:27,610 What are the Hamas organization? 282 00:22:28,870 --> 00:22:32,158 What are they saying? What are they standing for? 283 00:22:32,254 --> 00:22:41,254 And who attacked Israel in the beginning of the year and killed civilians and Israel 284 00:22:41,302 --> 00:22:48,170 response and how, what's the solution for this problem and this situation now? 285 00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:50,746 It will be more like half an hour. 286 00:22:50,778 --> 00:22:53,898 I was planning of 50 minutes, but yeah, it's a 287 00:22:54,034 --> 00:22:57,710 topic you could talk more about in a civilized way. 288 00:22:58,410 --> 00:23:00,510 But I will do the ending here. 289 00:23:01,450 --> 00:23:05,030 I will talk to a friend that is very into this 290 00:23:06,290 --> 00:23:13,760 situation when I have learned about it and doing it in very great work, but the legal 291 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,944 things about this and how it should be done. 292 00:23:17,112 --> 00:23:19,296 So she has a great project there. 293 00:23:19,328 --> 00:23:24,184 So I will see if she has something coming up with something that I could share in this 294 00:23:24,232 --> 00:23:26,752 comment thread, like my last remark. 295 00:23:26,896 --> 00:23:29,928 But I think this person has, as I call it in 296 00:23:29,944 --> 00:23:37,928 Swedish, tid posina fingerar or time on your fingers, or you have time on your hands doing 297 00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:38,568 nothing. 298 00:23:38,704 --> 00:23:41,256 And you had to have the so called last word 299 00:23:41,368 --> 00:23:44,712 and you're sitting there with a keyboard and waiting for me to respond. 300 00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:51,304 And because I said thanks for supporting a secular Gotenburg, that was it. 301 00:23:51,392 --> 00:23:59,472 Of course, you could think what's that to do with the post about that it's illegal tent 302 00:23:59,616 --> 00:24:00,300 camp. 303 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,336 But again, if you look what Hamas is standing 304 00:24:04,368 --> 00:24:10,438 for, because they are supporting Hamas and call it that, it should be not listed as a 305 00:24:10,454 --> 00:24:12,650 terrorist organization and whatnot. 306 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:16,990 So you have that and that again against 307 00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:17,982 Israel. 308 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,622 It's the socialist, it's the National 309 00:24:20,726 --> 00:24:27,974 Socialist and the militant Muslims, and they are religious to the core and they are reading 310 00:24:28,102 --> 00:24:37,578 the so called holy scripture as the devil is doing that, and then have this hatred and 311 00:24:37,634 --> 00:24:41,634 aggression and violence and terror activism. 312 00:24:41,762 --> 00:24:45,146 And I can't get it how you could support these 313 00:24:45,178 --> 00:24:46,778 kind of organizations. 314 00:24:46,954 --> 00:24:48,630 Israel is not perfect. 315 00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:50,150 They have issues. 316 00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:52,802 And you also have to understand the history. 317 00:24:52,866 --> 00:25:00,052 And I bought a book fair some years ago from an organization supporting a peaceful way in 318 00:25:00,076 --> 00:25:00,556 Israel. 319 00:25:00,628 --> 00:25:03,612 And it was very informative about the whole 320 00:25:03,676 --> 00:25:10,460 history, all the details with solutions, what you could do and how we continue. 321 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:12,760 And this as a call to action. 322 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,960 I'm very interested as a new media advisor, 323 00:25:16,660 --> 00:25:23,924 supporter of a podcast in 2.0 initiative to support freedom of expression in a peaceful 324 00:25:24,052 --> 00:25:24,720 way. 325 00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:28,156 We could continue the conversation and the 326 00:25:28,188 --> 00:25:29,876 discourse and the debate. 327 00:25:30,028 --> 00:25:34,652 But again, this commentator have some kind of 328 00:25:34,756 --> 00:25:42,716 agenda, but then playing this role that I have to explain myself and probably continue to 329 00:25:42,748 --> 00:25:46,348 reply and reply again and again. 330 00:25:46,484 --> 00:25:49,572 I don't know what was trigger, if he is a 331 00:25:49,596 --> 00:25:57,492 secular person, but Hamas supporter or whatnot, or if it's really supporting peaceful 332 00:25:57,636 --> 00:26:07,428 demonstrations that I don't think this tent camp is so, but we will see and we will follow 333 00:26:07,484 --> 00:26:10,652 this along here in Gothenburg, Sweden. 334 00:26:10,836 --> 00:26:13,412 And if you have anything that you want to 335 00:26:13,436 --> 00:26:19,048 share, any examples from your area, what's going on and if you have any ideas, what's the 336 00:26:19,104 --> 00:26:30,744 elements behind these demonstrations and actions against Israel and these demonstrators 337 00:26:30,792 --> 00:26:36,860 that are really supporters of terrorist organizations, for example, Hamas. 338 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:44,340 And if they are organized that have a long history of useful idiots. 339 00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:49,450 And with that I say Cheerio and talk to you soon again. 340 00:26:49,610 --> 00:26:50,670 Bye for now. 341 00:27:09,860 --> 00:27:42,950 Sadeena Namdeh.