Hello, and welcome to this week's Choosing Happy podcast. I'm Heather Masters, and we're still in Woo space. This week, we have a wonderful interview with a good friend, Lorraine Stone, who is a coach and teacher who'll help you open up to your psychic abilities. And she also teaches you how to not just contact, but how to work with your own spiritual team. All this and more in this week's Choosing Happy Podcast.

Hello and welcome to the Choosing Happy podcast. I'm your host Heather Masters and today I have the greatest pleasure of chatting with Lorraine Stone. Now Lorraine is a coach and a teacher who will help you open up to your psychic abilities and connect with your spiritual team. Hello and welcome, Lorraine. Oh, hi, Heather. Thanks for having me. Oh, you're welcome. Can you begin by telling us a little bit about yourself and your own journey to opening up to your psychic abilities and connecting with your spiritual team? Um, well, it's been a long, long journey. a lot of years of learning my, um, psychic abilities and getting in tune with my guides. So it's been a process of learning through, um, various courses, various, I mean, using your own intuition, connecting to yourself. Um, I started with Reiki healer and then Theta and then many other courses along the way. Um, but really it's about connecting to the, the true you from what's within you. Um, so your true source energy, your true divine, um, universal God source energy, whatever you want to talk about it, whichever words work for you. Um, but yeah, so it's been about, I think, 20 to 30 years of, um, journey and through my spiritual, uh, having my spiritual growth really. It never ends. It's a quest that I've always been on. Um, and eventually when you can ask at any point to connect to your guardian angels, spirit guides, and they will always make their known, their presence known. Even if at first you can't. um, connect to them. Uh, they'll always make sure they find a way to let you feel it. You know, the more you're open to it, the more, the calmer you are, the more they can show you that they're beside you. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. So, like, how did you start your journey? What was the trigger for you going into this field, or opening to, you know? I think it, I've always known there's more than just, you know, I always known that I'm a spiritual being in a human existence. Um, so I've always known that and I always had, uh, a yearning to learn more. The biggest trigger was when I was 25. Um, my mom passed. I dealt with my husband, had two little kids, and I think I was always trying to find my mom. Really? I think, you know, you go on a journey, you lose somebody. You think, well, you know, they're not gone. They're not, they're somewhere. The spirit doesn't die. We don't die. Our spiritual selves never die. So I think I started searching and thinking, you know, they're there somewhere, just in a different veil, a different space where we can't see them. So I think that was the biggest trigger, you know, starting out on my journey with two little kids all by myself and just having lost my mum. It was like, okay, I need to, I need to, investigate this further. And then through numerous surgeries, I became, um, I had back surgery, um, and more muscular at the back. So, and I had a reiki healing and it's like a light bulb went off in the center of my mind. It was like I could see this beam of light as she was doing this reiki healing, which was another big trigger. And she said, well, have you still got this feeling that something's wakened in you? Come back in a year and I'll teach you. So I did all my 3, and it was just like, it was just like pulling me, you know. And then I got invited to the, to, um, introduction day and it was another pull, gotta do it, gotta do it. And then become a teacher, gotta do it, gotta do it. 10 years of teaching and then it's like, well, you know, you develop your own things, you develop your own way of working with your own divine connection. So getting to meet your teams, your guides, it's all the one thing, some people you can identify with each individual one or you can connect to them as a whole, they'll all show up wherever you need. I've also done trans mentorship for a year and it's all about the energy's all inside of you and you can connect to your guides around you and they will show up how you need them to show up. But it's all connected to the one consciousness as we know, so I think that's my biggest trigger and that was sort of my basic journey, but there's a few a lot more courses on the way and You know having to always work alongside my spiritual work but you never stop growing and learning and becoming more and Being in a deep connection with your own guides and your own truth. So last few years have been obviously very And it does feel like there's a greater pull for people to connect and to, as you say, remember who they are and really connect with that source within them. Um, have you found there are more people coming to you for help or are you noticing anything different? I feel like there is, there is definitely more people It's definitely been a pull towards, you know, what is this life about or what are we doing here, you know. Um, it's definitely a pull for people to having the questions now, like, well, there's more to life, you know. Some people think we're human to humans, our minds rule us and our bodies are here and when they die, they die. You know, there is more sense of questioning, even my great nieces and nephews and my grandchildren are questioning me saying, what about past lives? What about, what about, where was I before? You know, you get children actually come in, so I think there's a younger generation that's got more thirst for spiritual knowledge, even if it's not the older generation, um, because we're not our mind, we're not our body, the things. We don't take anything with us, but our soul and our experiences, that's what we pass over with. So I find there's a lot of younger generations, you know, that are, phone me up and say, Oh, Auntie Lowell, that's what they call me. Help me, my friend's got negativity or an attachment or, um. So I've found it's a lot in the younger generation, but equally there's a lot of mature people thinking that maybe there's more to life because I think when you're in the rat race of life you grow up, you have your kids or you have a career, whichever you choose, and you just get wrapped up in the cycle of life, but then there's sometimes you sit back and think. You know, or trauma. Sometimes it's mainly a trauma that brings you to a point of, there's got to be more. Why is this, or why is this repeating pattern? Why have I done this already? And why do I keep churning the same old stories out? Why do I keep repeating the same old patterns? So I think that's when people are coming. And that's what I'm noticing is when, when you finally get to that stage of either repeating patterns or, you know, another trauma or, It's like, okay, they do come. So I think COVID brought a lot of, you know, people at home a lot, weren't there? That caused a lot of stress for people. But it's when you step back from the stress and you sort of think, it's them all. It's them all and just what we are. Yeah. It's interesting that you mentioned trauma. Um, It's just something that I found through talking with people that rather than, you know, we often think of trauma as a really bad thing, but it does seem to be a method for awakening in one way or another, whether it's, you know, Opening just to meaning in life or your purpose in life or whether it's the whole spiritual journey as well. Trauma seems to be a real big trigger for that. Um, but do you agree? Do you find that? Oh, totally agree. I think when spirit, you know, we learn and you had this conversation the other day, it's even dreamt about it. It was like, I dreamt of this big trauma I had and I was like, Oh no! What's going to happen and it's like you learn quicker from trauma. It's like when I fought in my dream, this is really a terrible experience that I've just had because of my fault and my trauma was something I created myself. And if I look at the consequences of that, but then I learned something from that dream, you know, but that was a dream. We don't all get traumas for our dreams. But if you think about any life experiences you've had, the biggest change comes, the quickest learning comes from trauma. Because it smacks you in the face and it is so devastating or so hurtful or whatever. that it makes you stand up and look. You know, we, you know, we could ask to have, and we could and we should all ask, which I did after my dream was, you know, can I start learning through positive experiences please? Um, but we do learn quicker and if spirit are trying to get your attention within your true self, your true spirit, the, you know, the one who's manifested as you into the human, if they're trying to get your attention to get you back on your spiritual path or connect you back to your source energy, if they can't do it, In the kindest way, they're going to do it in a drastic way. Because it's only drastic to us as a human, it's not drastic to us as a spirit. Because everything, if you think about the scenario of everything is happening for us, it's like, what is it Why did our true self create that scenario for us to learn through? You know, and the only ability we have to change any scenario is to take responsibility for it. So, yes, I think trauma teaches us quicker. And sometimes we just don't listen to the kindly, kindly, look, I'm spirit over here, come and say hello. Or I'm spirit in here and you never notice. That spirit in your, in a, in your heart center where spirit is? Um, I think trauma does, you know, when you look back at trauma, you may have lost your job. You may have lost your home, but then where did you end up after that? If you can reflect backwards at some of your previous traumas, what, what was the gift of that trauma at the end? Yeah, it, it's like, um. Lessons, like, like you said earlier about patterns, if we keep repeating the pattern at some point it's going to be a trauma because we're not learning whatever the pattern's trying to teach us. Exactly. Yeah. And it's like, Oh, no, I've done that already. Do you ever do that? You go, No, that one. Oh, I've just done this. Why am I doing it again? What didn't I learn? And it's like, Please tell me what I didn't learn, you know? So how do you, um, connect in with your spiritual team, um, in, in terms of your own experience? How, how have you, how did you begin working with your spiritual team? And how do you, what's kind of the process you go through with your clients to teach that? Um, well for me when I began doing it I'd have a process of connecting to the divine source and asking for that connection and then asking spirit guides to show up so I could sense them. So I'd always ask for a calling card so if I ask for a sense that they're with me now they'll give me a warm or a touch on the shoulder so you can get a sense of their, but as I've developed now I can just go to my guides, you know, walk down the street with me, come Moment with me but more the divine doesn't it's all connected. It's the same thing So it's like opening up the connection to them and and when you do that even just by setting the intention to have Opening your heart and allowing the divine or the true self to flow out, you have a much better experience even shopping, watching TV, doing your housework. You know, you can bring that into every, every moment without any um, I'm sorry, without any um, issues at all. And um, But when I'm doing it with my clients, again, I connect to my, um, guide. I ask, obviously, I do a scan of the person with permission only, obviously, to see what blocks they may have, and also to understand where the client is from their perspective. So, once I can understand the client a bit more, um, then I can bring in the guides and ask them to get a sense for themselves. So, I would ask the guides to give a calling card, a signal to the, to my client. So they knew that they were connected and I wouldn't, we'd keep going until there was at least a connection to the, the connection is always there, but I would need my client to feel it, if that makes sense. Yeah. So they're more aware of it. Yes. So I would connect to the divine. I would ask their true self, their spirit guides to come forward, um, and to give that client a calling card that they could recognize. It's a light. Feeling a warmth, maybe see them in their third eye. Maybe just, um, a touch on the shoulder, just anything that they could recognize with. So when working with guys, um, is there kind of a, a frustration with, with them? spiritual team that sometimes they can't get through? Or are you, um, I mean, I know they're always there, but is there kind of rules around interaction and how much they can do to, to support you when you're not aware? I think they're, I think the biggest block is ourselves, where we don't ask. So if you ask the angels or guides or true self to help with any situation, it's going to try and help. So, or they are going to help. Um, And I think the frustration is us, not through them. They will, they will be there on hand to help. They'll steer you in the right direction. They will do everything they can to get you to do the right, to take the right course of action. There's no frustration on the guide's side in my experience. My, my understanding is because you're exactly where you're meant to be. You're perfect in the way you are right now, um, and if you want to get somewhere or do something, they're always supporting you for the highest best of your learning and your growth. Right. So providing that highest perspective is always there, you know, it's only us that get frustrated. Ah, why are you not helping me or I can't see you or I can't feel you. That's our frustration, not the guide's frustration. Right. And the trick is to always ask them to support. Remembering you might think you know the answer is the best thing for you, but actually the actual answer might not be what you expect because the guides have a higher perspective. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's something about manifesting, isn't it? It's about being as detailed as possible, but then letting go of any expectation because the universal source might have something better for you. Yes, don't, don't get caught on the outcome because, um, yes, it might be completely different. I remember a scenario when I was buying a house and everything was getting in my way and I shouldn't have bought the house but sheer determination and will to buy the house only to realize on the day that I signed the contract is it wasn't the best move for me to have the house. I thought I needed to end the relationship with the person that I, I'm like, oh, the university tried to tell me, but through sheer determination and will, I thought, okay, well, it's giving you enough chances. Let it go. But anyway, so yeah, if things are flowing, I find you're in the flow of the universe, you're doing the right things. And if things start to go wrong, maybe there's a better path. That's a, an, an interesting concept because it's one that I know that I've struggled with. Sometimes I've believed that if things are going wrong, could be the I just haven't found the right path through and, you know, is this a challenge or a lesson from the universe that, you know, I should still keep going, but there's a different way to do it, for instance, or is it just give up and go do something different? And I find that one's quite challenging and, um, how would you work with that? How do you? I think when I'm trying to push something uphill, I think, and it's not going uphill, you know. I think I stop, I think the message has always been, how do you find your joy? What it's, when you're doing things that makes you joyous, it's the right course of action for you. Even if it's nicking and not even looking at what you're trying to push uphill. So when things flow, it's because you're in line with what your spiritual journey is. And if you really think you need to push that thing up the hill, then I would sit and meditate on it. If it's really going badly, just not have it again, not have an expectation of the answer, but just go quiet. Just go, okay, well I'll leave it up to the divine or my guides until I'm inspired to take action. Nice. Because it's through inspiration that the guides are talking through us and it's through joy that they're talking to us. It's through, so you're always being answered where things joyous, we're only here to find our joy. You know, we all think we may have a big mission, but you know, it's only from inspiration and joy. If it's inspirational and it's joyful, it's definitely on the right path. Um, so it's go back to that. Just find your joy. Stop struggling with the struggle. That's what I would do. As I begin to go, okay, just walk away from it, stop struggling with the struggle, find some joy, maybe sit and be quiet, and wait to do it again when I'm inspired. Can you remember, well we all remember times when we're really inspired, you know, I came back from Holland after doing a teacher course, teacher training course, a spiritual healing and, you know. I've got to do the next course, so I come back from Holland. I need to fly back by the next day because my inspiration was I've got to do the children course. I have to. That's where we're working from. Actually, you've got to be there, right? So, um, so that's when you just let go and wait till you're inspired. So just, just around the services that you offer, um, you offer readings. Do you have a channel or, you know, how, how do you work with one on one clients? Is it, as you say, you, you read their energy and, and things, but how, is there a process that you particularly follow or? I tend to bring in the design, my guide, um, I tend to, with permission, do the scan of the person to see, I'm asking what do they need? I mean, basically, why did they come in the first place? So, what goals do they want me to get from it? And then. obviously through the guides, through their true self, their spiritual self, what else is needed on the spiritual sense, because we don't always know what we need on a spiritual sense. However, with muscle testing and pendulum using to get the yeses and noes, it's building that understanding of where they're at and where they want to get to. So I work very closely, well I work constantly in the presence of the divine and the guides to give me the wisdom, but also checking in with my client to see if it's relevant. And it, you know, I only, it's only always relevant to the client, if it's not, then we wouldn't do anything, and the client would always know, so it's a process of getting to understand, obviously I've only given what I needed from guides, sometimes it's symbolism, sometimes they never tell me the story, but it's a symbolic, you know. You know, you have a trauma in your, in your heart, for example, you're carrying weight on your shoulders where a lot of people carry their Burdens because I've never dealt with them and you saw I can't have time to deal with that and they just carry on So it's about It's about using whatever I'm given from the Divine, from my guides to, from the client to work with and making sure that we're all on the same page. And I do trance, I do do trance channeling, but I tend, if somebody wanted that, they could, but I tend to work more in an interaction with the guides, with the client to make sure we're getting to the, You know, the best thing we could do for anybody is get to be the spiritual being in the human existence. Viewing it from the viewpoint of the divine or from the guides. You know, being less attached or not attached to the outcome of things and just living in this moment of joy. That's the joyous place of all. Would we be living in this harmony, you know, and we always go back to, oh, I've got to do this, got to do this, got to do this, you know, and are we really in the moment? And, um, so yes, so it's always the intention. to bring them more spiritual alongside whatever they want to do. But I couldn't influence anything unless they wanted it because of their choice. Their choice is that I say, well, would you really like to know what it feels like to live in the moment? And practice in, you know, I might do it straight away, that'd be awesome. Um, but it would also be that they would sign up to that. Yes, I would like to know what it feels like to start being present and recognizing my guides and following my guides and being in the moment. That makes sense. again. Yeah. Um, so do you bring things like, like Theta into your work? Do you, do your work with healing as well as, um, Is, is it kind of a coaching session, a one on one session? How, yeah, how do the sessions, yeah, are they coaching, are they healing, are they whatever turns up, basically? It's probably a bit of all of it, whatever turns up. Spirit normally show up and it is healing from the past, past lives, past traumas, ancestral healing for your families. Um, it's also about, you know, Connection to the spirit, to the true self, to the guides, definitely. So healing, if there's any messages that need to be said, you know, messages will be said. But mainly it's about clearing your pathway so you can see a very clear pathway. Uh, on your journey, um, and clearing what you need to clear, you know, if it's uh, you've come because you're not very clear communicating with your guide, so it'd be making sure that you find a way of communicating with your guide. But equally, all around that, there'll be lots of healing needed for that. There might have been a fear somewhere, there might have been a past life trauma where you felt you were too powerful, so you're scared of your powers in this lifetime, um, or you felt you were harmed because of your healing or, or your connection to your guide. So, there's so many different scenarios and stories that could stop you being completely free. free and open with your guides. And it's about uncovering those. So it's healing, guidance, coaching, guides coming in. I mean, I don't do the healing. I engage the divine, the spirit, the guides to do the healing. I'm just a very good conduit to intuitively see what's there and hear my guides to what needs clearing, to then work with the client to identify it and clear it. You also, um, run training courses. Yeah. How does the training course work? And there's two ways, ah, yeah, there's a few ways, we could do a small group together, either, where we, you know, have six or twelve people, or even less than that, you know, it's um, how interactive you like it with other, with other students. And we go through, um, depending where you're at in your spiritual path, about two, three days to, two days would definitely get you connecting, doing the healings yourself. There's a third day if you wanted a bit more in depth. Um, always, there's one to one where I could teach you. Um, so there's lots of methods and ways to learn. It's just whatever really suits the individual. Right, so it's very bespoke, really. It is, yes, because I can teach a group of 10 to 20 or I can teach a group of two. Um, obviously, uh, there's more interaction when you get to 20 so you'd probably definitely need the free days. Because there's a lot more interaction where if it's two to six, you'd probably do it in two days. So it's nice for little groups of people that, you know, you've got a bunch of friends where you're growing spiritually. You think, oh, it'd be lovely just to have a little bit more in depth connecting to our guides, clearing sessions, clearing all the old trauma that we've carried in past life, and then that's a nice intimate group that you can move forward quickly. It's a real boost to move you forward. Brilliant, brilliant. Um, just a question that I'm, I'm sure. People listening might ask is, how safe is this? Do you, is there a possibility of bringing in sort of negative entities or negative energy? No. I mean, I have had clients and great nieces and nephews that come to see if they've brought in a negative energy. But if you're working with a divine energy and your true spiritual energy, And you've got a gatekeeper, which is a spiritual guide, and you've got all that protection. Nothing, nothing will flow into that space, because it's too pure. It's like, you know, your guides are protecting you. If you've got the spiritual guides all around you, nothing bad is going to get into you. So it's making sure that, and it's one of the things we do, is make sure that your guides are obviously proper guides. And if anybody does have an attachment or negativity of some sort, then Or lost soul somewhere, we can ask for that to go to the light so we can just pass over to the light. So it is very safe and because you're working in a high energy with your own protection, your own guidance system. And if you do have any negative attachments, just ask your own guides to come down and start clearing it away and don't listen to it. Got it. That's powerful. And if you do know, sorry, if you do know it's a negative spirit, your true spirit wouldn't tell you anything. That's not really from the highest perspective, if you know what I mean. They would only give you advice from a God sense. Right. Um, so sometimes, um, this, this is sort of things that I've heard very recently. Um, if you have a negative, say a negative attachment and it keeps you very much in a internal dialogue of, of negativity, um, How, what's the best way of, it's a difficult one of knowing whether that's just your negative dialogue or whether it is something that's kind of beyond that. I think there's two ways again. For one there is our mind, we're not our minds, we're not our body, we're only pure spirit. So, we do have the monkeys in our mind that keep going na na na na na na na na na na na and they're just monkeys. You've got to shut them up and just tell them to shut up. However you want to tell them to shut up, just ask them to be quiet and shut up. But it's also, if there is a spiritual negative doubt in there, or one, you could find somebody like me to ask it to be returned to the light. You could also get your own archangel, your own true self, your own guardian angel, or even Archangel Michael to ask for the clearing for it. And if it is, if it is this negative thought, just don't listen to them. Because there is a difference between how your true spiritual guide would speak to you and how a negative entity would speak to you, or a negative thought train, or a negative pattern. Like, so whenever we get into a negative pattern, it's just a pattern. Whenever we get into a negative thought pattern, it's just a thought pattern, it's not a reality. The only reality is that we are true spirit and we're, you know, we're experiencing in this human form that we are inhabiting this body. That's the truth, but obviously we've got a mind that we don't take, you know, it's just the machine doing its thing. We've probably learned coping mechanisms with our brain. So it's about, yeah, just don't listen and just ask it to be quiet. And then find something positive to do to reinforce that, like even listen to the words of a meditation or listen to a song verse or sing a song or do something that stops the chatter. So, you know, interrupt it. So how do you know that you're talking to a guide? You said they've got a very different voice. Well, I would always listen to what they're telling you. So, If you put your hand on your heart and I set the intention to open your heart and then you say I wish my spiritual guide, my guardian angel, to come down, my true self, to answer this question for me. Just allow the question, the answers to unfold. Don't expect, oh you've got to do it that way because that's probably the negative sport train or the negative entity or the negativity. Just allow. it to be answered in, in a more loving kind of way. So you may not get the answer. In fact, it'd be good if you could, you know, say, um, guides, help me with this. problem and just let go of the outcome and then just go about your business. So you're not putting so much expectation on an immediate answer and allow the answer to show up. Because you don't go with any of that attachment. Yes, because you're not, not, not, we're not all in tune, especially for myself, I've been great for other people. When I ask my own question, I want to get an answer, you know, that's not going to happen. Um, but equally, it's about, I'm very, I'm very good at hearing the messages they want me to hear. But if I put, if I put a prayer in motion and I've asked, um, my guides to help me with something, it's definitely about just letting go of it. Trust that they've now got it in hand and they're going to work it out. It's not an immediate answer, it could be, it depends how in tune you are of hearing your guides. But then you'll go, is it my guides? Isn't my bad negative thought trains? Is it a negative end? You know what I mean? Once you get into that mind boggle. Yeah. Um, so it's just trust they will find the answer to you. And meditations. You mentioned meditations. Uh, you have some guided meditations, don't you? Do you do a lot of those yourself? Um, I do some. I need to, well, could do better, as my school report used to say. I've got more to do. Um, but it's, you know, it's more of a when you're in it with a, um, a client you can sort of then do bespoke ones to that person. But there's so many on YouTube. But the meditation, it's one way of just focusing on somebody else's voice as it's guided. to allow you to come back to that stillness. I mean a really good one you can say for yourself is, you know, especially if you've got a negative thought train going on, you can say I'm not my mind, I'm not my body, I'm pure spirit. I'm not my mind, I'm not my body, I'm pure spirit. And anything to do like a mantra or bring you back to the now or bring you back to now is like I'm safe, I'm warm, I'm comfortable, I have plenty of feelings, I have my home, whatever it is. And it just brings you back to that sense of comfort. So when you do a meditation, there are so many on YouTube, it's finding the right voice that works, the right burst you need and, but it is a good thing to do to just calm yourself right down. Yeah. I mean the ones I've got on my channel on water. you know, stop the mind shatter and bring you back into the present moment and connect you actually. There's one for connecting you to your own divine intelligence, your own guides, and they're three really good tools for you to use just to come calm your mind down. And are those available on your website? They're on my YouTube channel, but I will put a link on my website. Okay, brilliant. I've put all of those in the show notes anyway, if anyone wants them. You were mentioning, is it more difficult, do you find it more difficult to work with for yourself and get messages for yourself than you do when you're working with other people. Is it, is it kind of more difficult to detach if that makes sense? It definitely is more difficult to detach, um, because you, it is. I think it's because obviously I know myself and I connect to the divine, but I, as I've gone along I've got better at just detach, send a prayer out there and I detach from the outcome. I trust that the divine my guide. Truth, self, everybody's got my question and they're doing all their best to answer it in the best way. So it's definitely more difficult for yourself, um, but for other people obviously I just get it so quickly, the information just comes in because I, I have no attachment to it. So when you're attached to it you could, you know, um, so that's why it's so much easier working with other people than yourself. But equally the more confidence you get in sending a prayer and don't try and answer it yourself. Then, you know, you know what it's like, we ask Dear Divine or Dear Spirit Guide, help me find a new job. And then we go scrambling around all the internet looking for a job, when actually the right job will present itself at the right time through a, Oh, you're inspired to look one day or something comes through the door or whatever. Yeah. And how do, sorry, there's various ways of working with you, there's the courses and there's the one to one sessions. How long are the one to one sessions or is there a course? A group of one. Nomi and Lance, how do you work with them? Yeah, Nomi's put about eight in the diary, um, for a group of, um, a block of eight, which is a really nice number to, and they're about an hour, an hour and a half each, so we've got plenty of time to, you know, uncover where we're at, see where you're going, what, what, what people really want. Um, and then I do them in the period is whatever suits the client because some people have a busy schedule and they can, they, when they take a long time to absorb all what's happened in a session because you get so much in a session, it's like, well, you know, it's like, how do I, I just want to let all that settle in, you know, the changes are taking place, the healing's been done, et cetera, et cetera. So some people have once a week, some people have once a fortnight, some people have. Every few days if I want to really, I want to get. I want to be here. I'm over here and I want to get over here. I want to get really, you know, a big jump in my spiritual growth and then I want to practice all those tools. Because it is about practicing all those tools that every time we get out of the moment we use that mantra to bring us back to the moment. You know, I'm safe, I'm warm, I'm comfortable. And it's all about remembering like your brain's going on and on. You're not your mind, you're not your body, you're pure spirit coming back to know that actually I'm just spirit, you know. It's my pain in my leg, I'm not my leg. So, those tools, it's good, you know, so they need to practice some tools, so it's really dependent on the client's, uh, schedules and how much absorption time they like and practice time they need. It's never ending, isn't it? Getting to our spiritual destination. True. And, um, how do people book with you? Is that just through your website or? Yeah, an email from my website or call me on my phone number that's on my website. Um, any way like that or recommendation for a friend and reach out to me through WhatsApp or text message. Brilliant, brilliant. And if, if you had one piece of advice for someone really wanting to connect and maybe for the first time and maybe they're a little bit fearful, um, what would that advice be? Help me set the intention to open your heart. And ask your spirit guide to come in and guide you to the right person you need to help you on your spiritual growth. And then if you get inspiration to work with somebody, then you go for it. Brilliant. And is there anything else that you would like to, to share today? Just that, do that anyway. Just open your heart, set the intention to bring in your guide and say, help me on my spiritual journey. To help support you, just open up to spirit. Spirit is there. We're a spiritual being in a human existence, not a human being in a human existence. And the more we come home to spirit, it's exactly where we need to be. Just back to spirit. Having this life the best way possible, as in, enjoy, because we are coming back to who we truly are, what we came before in the first place, having a joyous spiritual being, being a spiritual being in a human existence, having fun, so start connecting. And that, um, that mention of joy, I, on my spiritual journey, I've, I've, I've, I've I hear it because it's everywhere. You know, it's um, if you listen to Esther Hicks, it's about coming back to joy. And what I found was that I'd heard it so often, I wasn't really taking it on board. It's only recently that I've truly got what that means in terms of, um, that's kind of the frequency that you're where everything, where you're attracting and manifesting and you're in alignment. And I, I know it's said, but I don't think it's ever really said as clearly as, as the fact that that's really the frequency with where, where magic happens, if you like. Yeah. It's a beautiful frequency to be in. If you can get in that moment. Know your connectives, set the intentions, open your heart, bring in the spiritual energy through you, because it is you, then joy can really happen and the magic does happen. Royal. Because being a logical person myself, I do tend to push more than, even though I do use intuition, once I've got the intuition then I tend to push, so it's that, really recognizing that actually if you, if you step back and enjoy it, that it makes a big difference. I mean, that's one of the reasons I, I kind of do it. I chose the Choosing Happy podcast because that was my biggest learning, that we choose how we feel in the moment and if we can choose to be joyful irrespective of what's happening and sometimes it's difficult, but that's where the magic happens. It is. Exactly. Perfect. It's exactly choosing that happiness. Nobody has the right to change how we feel about ourselves. As we zoom out and think we're little spiritual beings on our little spiritual journey and when we go home we're going to look at our lives and go well we had some ups and downs but we were always joyous. You know, we know we haven't been. We know we've been at the struggles of our lives when we had the kids and there were jobs and the trauma. But when we can really zoom out and just go back to that happiness, that joy, and actually, wow, we're spirit in a human existence. What a fun place, right? Yeah. Yeah, and if you're logical, you're not your brain. Yeah, yeah. Which dog do I feed, as they say? Yes, exactly. Well, thank you so much. This has been absolutely amazing. It's been really insightful. So, thank you for taking the time today and sharing. Thank you. And lovely, lovely connecting you again. And, uh, I'm sure we'll switch again soon. Thanks. Bye for now. Bye.

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