Welcome back to the podcast for our second episode of the day.
Speaker AEarlier today we discussed the Apache case.
Speaker AI'm releasing a second episode because I really wanted to dive into another certiorary denial involving the case called LM vs Middleburgh, this denial highlights one of the most contentious debates in America right now, the clash between free speech rights and protecting students in our schools.
Speaker ASimilar to Apache, two justices wrote passionate dissents arguing the court should have taken the case.
Speaker ALet me tell you why this seemingly simple story about a middle school T shirt has constitutional scholars, school administrators, and parents all paying attention.
Speaker APlease note that this summary is read by an automated voice.
Speaker ABefore we dive into the middleburrow case, I wanted to bring up three other matters.
Speaker AFirst is a recap of another developing Supreme Court case called in resdoge service.
Speaker AOn May 23, 2025, Chief Justice Roberts granted a stay in a case involving the US DOGE Service, the government efficiency body that President Trump created with Elon Musk's involvement.
Speaker AHere's what happened.
Speaker AThe watchdog group CREW filed a Freedom of Information act request demanding documents from doge, arguing that DOGE operates like a government agency and should be subject to public records laws.
Speaker AWhen DOGE didn't respond quickly enough, CREW sued.
Speaker AThe case took an interesting turn when a federal judge ordered discovery, including depositions of Doge officials and production of internal recommendations to federal agencies to determine whether DOGE must comply with FYA in the first place.
Speaker AThe government argued this was backwards logic.
Speaker AThe discovery process was giving CREW much of what they'd get if they won the case outright, while potentially violating the separation of powers by forcing presidential advisors to reveal their confidential deliberations.
Speaker AChief Justice Roberts agreed and put the whole discovery process on hold.
Speaker AThis case perfectly illustrates the ongoing tension between government transparency and executive privilege.
Speaker AAnd like today's main story, it shows how constitutional principles often clash in unexpected ways.
Speaker AI'll keep following this one and update you as it develops.
Speaker ASecond, a quick programming note.
Speaker AI'm currently working to backfill the podcast with oral arguments from earlier Supreme Court terms.
Speaker ARight now, I'm making my way through the middle of the 2023-24 term, so if you're looking for more content or want to catch up on cases you might have missed, those episodes are available now.
Speaker AFinally, a quick scheduling note.
Speaker AI'm tied up with work on Thursday.
Speaker AIf the Court hands down decisions, look for my episodes on Friday.
Speaker ANow let's turn to our main story about student speech and school safety.
Speaker ALet me set the scene.
Speaker AIt's March 2023 in Middleborough, Massachusetts, a seventh grader called LM to protect his privacy walks into Nichols Middle School wearing a black T shirt with white letters that read there are only two genders.
Speaker AWithin hours, LM's school pulls LM from gym class and sends him home.
Speaker ALM protests the censorship by wearing a shirt that says there are censored genders.
Speaker AThe school bans that shirt.
Speaker ABut this story is really just beginning.
Speaker AWhat started as a routine dress code enforcement would eventually reach the highest court in the land, exposing fundamental disagreements about student rights in the digital age.
Speaker ATo understand what happened here, we need to go back to 1969 and a landmark Supreme Court case called Tinker vs.
Speaker ADes Moines.
Speaker AIn that case, students wore black armbands to school to protest the Vietnam War.
Speaker AThe school tried to ban the armbands, but the Supreme Court said students don't shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate.
Speaker ABut, and this is crucial, Tinker also established that schools can restrict students speech in two specific situations.
Speaker AFirst, if the speech would cause a material disruption to the school environment.
Speaker ASecond, if the speech invades the rights of others.
Speaker AThese two standards have been the framework for student speech cases ever since.
Speaker ABut as you'll see, applying them in practice has proven incredibly difficult.
Speaker ANow let's look at this from the school's point of view.
Speaker ANicholls Middle School serves students between ages 10 and 14.
Speaker ASchool administrators knew several students at the school identified as transgender or gender non conforming.
Speaker ASome of these students had experienced serious mental health struggles, including suicidal thoughts related to how other students treated them because of their gender identities.
Speaker AThe school had conducted a survey showing more than 20 students had expressed concerns about bullying and feeling unwelcome, specifically mentioning how LGBTQ students were treated.
Speaker AThe acting principal had previous experience working with gender non conforming students who had been hospitalized for suicide attempts or required transfers to other districts because of harassment.
Speaker ASo when a teacher reported LMS T shirt and expressed concern that LGBTQ students might be impacted and potentially disrupt classes, administrators faced a difficult choice.
Speaker AThey interpreted the shirt's message, there are only two genders as essentially telling transgender and gender non conforming students that their identities were invalid or non existent.
Speaker AThe school also pointed to Massachusetts state law, which requires schools to protect students from discrimination and harassment based on gender identity.
Speaker AFrom the administrator's perspective, allowing the shirt could create a hostile environment for vulnerable students and potentially violate state anti discrimination requirements.
Speaker ALM's side of the story presents a completely different picture.
Speaker ALM believed the message expressed a basic biological fact that there are only two sexes, male and female, and that gender corresponds to biological sex.
Speaker ALM had observed the school promoting what LM saw as the opposite viewpoint through Pride Month celebrations, diversity posters, and encouraging students to express support for LGBTQ identities.
Speaker ALM's argument was fundamentally about viewpoint discrimination.
Speaker AThe school was actively promoting one perspective on gender identity while censoring the opposing view.
Speaker ALM had worn other political messages on T shirts like Don't Tread on Me and First Amendment Rights without any problems.
Speaker AThe school only objected when LM expressed a view that contradicted the school's preferred position on gender.
Speaker AImportantly, LMS shirt didn't target any specific individual and didn't cause any actual disruption.
Speaker ANo students became visibly upset.
Speaker ANo fights broke out.
Speaker ANo classes were interrupted.
Speaker AThe censorship was based entirely on speculation about what might happen.
Speaker ALM's family sued the school district.
Speaker AThe district court ruled against lm, saying the T shirt violated other students rights under Tinker's rights of others standard.
Speaker AThe judge concluded that transgender and gender non conforming students had a right to attend school without being confronted by messages attacking their identities.
Speaker AThe case then went to the First Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld the school's actions but used different reasoning.
Speaker AInstead of the rights of others argument, the appeals court focused on Tinker's material disruption standard.
Speaker ABut here's where things get really interesting.
Speaker AThe First Circuit created what critics call a novel legal test.
Speaker AThe court said schools can restrict passive silent student speech if two conditions are met.
Speaker AFirst, the speech must reasonably be interpreted as demeaning characteristics of personal identity that are unalterable or deeply rooted.
Speaker ASecond, schools must reasonably forecast that the demeaning message will poison the educational atmosphere through its serious negative psychological impact on students with the demeaned characteristic.
Speaker AWhat's fascinating here is that LMS lawyers argued this decision created or deepened multiple conflicts between different federal appeals courts.
Speaker AThey claimed nine separate circuit splits areas where courts in different parts of the country are reaching opposite conclusions on similar legal questions.
Speaker AFor example, some courts say schools can never engage in viewpoint discrimination, while others allow it under certain circumstances.
Speaker ASome courts require schools to present specific evidence of likely disruption, while others accept more general concerns about psychological harm.
Speaker ASome courts reject the heckler's veto, the idea that speech can be banned because others might react badly to it, while others seem to accept it.
Speaker AThe school district strongly disputed these claims, arguing that courts across the country have consistently applied Tinker in similar ways and that LMS lawyers were mischaracterizing both the First Circuit's decision and and other courts rulings when LM's case reached the Supreme Court, the justices faced a petition asking them to review the First Circuit's decision.
Speaker AIn May 2025.
Speaker AThe court denied certiorari, which means the justices declined to hear the case.
Speaker AMost Supreme Court denials happen without explanation, but this case was different.
Speaker ATwo Justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, wrote dissenting opinions explaining why they thought the Court should have taken the case.
Speaker AJustice Thomas wrote a short but pointed dissent.
Speaker AWhat's particularly interesting is that Thomas has long argued that the Tinker decision itself was wrong and without basis in the Constitution.
Speaker AThomas would prefer to dispense with Tinker altogether, but Thomas acknowledged that as long as Tinker remains binding precedent, lower courts must apply it faithfully.
Speaker AThomas argued that the First Circuit flouted Tinker by finding a material disruption when LM clearly had not created one.
Speaker AIn Thomas's view, wearing T shirts reading there are only two genders and later there are censored genders plainly did not cause the kind of substantial interference with school operations that Tinker requires.
Speaker AJustice Alito, joined by Justice Thomas, wrote a much longer dissent that reads almost like a roadmap for how the Supreme Court might eventually approach these issues.
Speaker AAlito framed the case as presenting an issue of great importance for our nation's youth, whether schools can suppress student speech simply because administrators disagree with the viewpoint or worry about causing offense.
Speaker AAlito made two main arguments for why the Court should have granted review.
Speaker AFirst, schools cannot engage in viewpoint discrimination.
Speaker AAlito pointed out that in the original Tinker case, schools allowed students to wear all sorts of political symbols, including even the iron cross, a symbol associated with Nazism, but banned only the anti war armbands.
Speaker AThe Court found this selective enforcement unconstitutional.
Speaker AHere, Alito argued, the school was doing exactly the same thing, allowing and even encouraging expression, supporting fluid gender identity while censoring opposing views.
Speaker AThis created an impermissible orthodoxy where only officially approved sentiments on gender identity were permitted.
Speaker ASecond, Alito argued that the First Circuit had watered down Tinkers demanding standard for material disruption.
Speaker AThe Supreme Court has described Tinker's test as requiring schools to show substantial interference with school operations, not just psychological discomfort.
Speaker AThe black armbands in the original Tinker case also involved an emotionally charged topic.
Speaker AStudents couldn't concentrate when reminded of friends and neighbors wounded or killed in Vietnam, but the Court still protected the speech.
Speaker AAlito was particularly critical of the First Circuit's focus on the student's young age.
Speaker AMary Beth tinker herself was 13 when she wore her armband to junior high school.
Speaker AYet the Court applied the same constitutional standard to her as to older high school students.
Speaker AIf schools choose to teach young students about LGBTQ issues, Alito argued, those schools must also tolerate dissenting views on those same topics.
Speaker ASo what does the Supreme Court's silence tell us?
Speaker AThe denial of certiorari den despite two Justices arguing the case presented, critical constitutional questions suggest that Tinker v.
Speaker ADes Moines has become increasingly fractured and inconsistent in how different courts apply it.
Speaker AJustice Alito cataloged what he characterized as nine separate circuit splits, while LM's lawyers documented conflicts involving fundamental First Amendment principles.
Speaker AThe Court's refusal to grant review, even with two Justices calling the issues vital, suggests either the Court isn't ready to clarify or narrow Tinker, or the justices believe the circuit conflicts aren't as clear cut as L.M.
Speaker As side claimed.
Speaker AJustice Thomas's continued criticism of Tinker as constitutionally baseless signals ongoing doctrinal tension.
Speaker ABut Thomas's acknowledgment that Tinker remains binding precedent indicates no immediate prospect for wholesale reconsideration.
Speaker AThis leaves lower courts continuing to apply Tinker inconsistently, particularly in cases involving identity based speech that implicates both traditional free speech principles and modern concerns about student safety and inclusion.
Speaker AFrom a practical standpoint, the denial creates significant uncertainty for school administrators who must navigate competing legal and social pressures without clear constitutional guidance.
Speaker ASchools operate under state anti discrimination laws like Massachusetts requirements in this case that mandate protection of LGBTQ students while simultaneously facing potential federal constitutional challenges if administrators restrict student speech too broadly.
Speaker AThe middleburrow case perfectly illustrates this impossible position.
Speaker ASchool administrators knew the school had vulnerable transgender and gender non conforming students, some with histories of suicidal thoughts, yet faced a federal lawsuit when administrators tried to prevent what they reasonably viewed as harmful speech.
Speaker AThe First Circuit's novel two part test for demeaning speech provides some framework, but that test applies only in the First Circuit and conflicts with other Circuit's approaches.
Speaker AWithout Supreme Court guidance, schools must make high stakes decisions about student speech with inconsistent legal standards, risking either federal constitutional violations or state law non compliance.
Speaker AThis uncertainty gets compounded by the highly charged political nature of gender identity issues, where any decision will likely generate controversy from parents, students, and advocacy groups on all sides.
Speaker AThe practical result is that school policies on identity related student expression will vary dramatically by geographic region, creating an uneven patchwork of student rights that depends more on zip code than constitutional principle.
Speaker AStudents in Massachusetts now live under different First Amendment protections than students in Texas or California, and that's a problem regardless of where you stand on the underlying gender identity debates.
Speaker AThis case perfectly captures the complexity of constitutional law in our polarized era.
Speaker ABoth sides can point to legitimate concerns protecting vulnerable students from psychological harm versus preserving robust free speech rights.
Speaker ABoth sides can cite constitutional principles and Supreme Court precedents supporting their positions.
Speaker AAnd both sides face real consequences when courts rule against them.
Speaker AWhat makes this case particularly significant is that it's not really about T shirts or even gender identity.
Speaker AIt's about how we balance competing constitutional values in our public schools and whether schools can pick winners and losers in ideological debates.
Speaker AThose are questions that affect every student, parent and educator in America.
Speaker AThe Supreme Court's silence means these battles will continue playing out in lower courts, school board meetings, and classrooms across the country.
Speaker AUntil the justices provide clearer guidance, students, parents and administrators will have to navigate this uncertain terrain as best they can.
Speaker AThat's all for today's episode.
Speaker AAs always, thanks for listening, and I'll see you next time.