1 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:07,464 Welcome to Heaven Earth Church. 2 00:00:07,512 --> 00:00:09,416 My name is Ross Stackhouse. 3 00:00:09,448 --> 00:00:12,680 I'm the founding pastor of Heaven Earth Church. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,632 From the beginning, our heart was to be a church for people who 5 00:00:16,656 --> 00:00:18,696 don't fit neatly into church. 6 00:00:18,888 --> 00:00:22,712 Our heart is to meet people where they are, to learn their stories, 7 00:00:22,856 --> 00:00:24,072 to honor their stories. 8 00:00:24,136 --> 00:00:27,568 Because in every human story is God's story. 9 00:00:27,744 --> 00:00:31,120 In this podcast you'll hear more about the people who now call 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,768 Heaven Earth Church home. 11 00:00:32,824 --> 00:00:36,800 Their stories, in many cases of misfits who are discovering or 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,096 rediscovering faith. 13 00:00:38,208 --> 00:00:41,808 If you want to know more about us, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org 14 00:00:41,984 --> 00:00:45,340 Otherwise, we invite you now into the story. 15 00:00:47,480 --> 00:00:48,448 Hello good people. 16 00:00:48,504 --> 00:00:53,402 Brad Miller here, the producer of the Heaven Earth Church podcast. 17 00:00:53,576 --> 00:00:57,142 One of the main benefits of being a part of the Heaven Earth 18 00:00:57,206 --> 00:01:03,254 Church community is our Sunday morning conversations taught by founding 19 00:01:03,302 --> 00:01:05,850 pastor Ross Stackhouse. 20 00:01:06,430 --> 00:01:11,450 You can watch and participate in the Sunday morning conversation 21 00:01:11,790 --> 00:01:19,286 this Sunday morning, 9:30am Eastern Time at YouTube.com Heaven 22 00:01:19,318 --> 00:01:20,490 Earth Church. 23 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:26,166 The audio version of the Sunday morning conversation is available 24 00:01:26,238 --> 00:01:31,110 here on the podcast, which you can find at Apple Podcasts, Spotify 25 00:01:31,270 --> 00:01:38,518 and on the website, which is heavenearth church.org let's now 26 00:01:38,574 --> 00:01:43,622 join Pastor Ross Stackhouse and the Heaven Earth Church community 27 00:01:43,806 --> 00:01:48,388 for part two of the message series, Dead Men Walking. 28 00:01:48,564 --> 00:01:50,228 The title is Saved. 29 00:01:50,404 --> 00:01:51,120 Really? 30 00:01:51,580 --> 00:01:54,520 Do we really need to be saved? 31 00:01:57,740 --> 00:02:06,820 Lord, illuminate our minds, soften our hearts and ignite our 32 00:02:06,860 --> 00:02:11,720 spirits with your fire in a way that's authentic. 33 00:02:13,350 --> 00:02:16,270 That help us to be more like you and more like us, the people 34 00:02:16,310 --> 00:02:17,770 you've created us to be. 35 00:02:19,590 --> 00:02:22,530 In Jesus name, Amen. 36 00:02:23,430 --> 00:02:31,086 All right, Michael, there's a picture in the sermon slides. 37 00:02:31,198 --> 00:02:36,302 My phone isn't working again, so Michael's going to be my right 38 00:02:36,326 --> 00:02:37,086 hand man. 39 00:02:37,238 --> 00:02:40,746 The other one, there's another picture. 40 00:02:40,778 --> 00:02:41,750 There it is. 41 00:02:43,410 --> 00:02:45,790 That is not the eye of Sauron. 42 00:02:46,210 --> 00:02:47,034 What is that? 43 00:02:47,122 --> 00:02:50,870 Does anyone know the Milky Way? 44 00:02:51,330 --> 00:02:55,670 Yeah, you see that dot there that says we are here. 45 00:02:57,010 --> 00:02:58,710 Hey, Ellis, how you doing, bud? 46 00:02:59,010 --> 00:02:59,978 Hi, Evan. 47 00:03:00,074 --> 00:03:02,298 Everybody look at Evan and make him feel awkward right now, 48 00:03:02,354 --> 00:03:03,070 okay? 49 00:03:09,970 --> 00:03:10,442 Love you. 50 00:03:10,466 --> 00:03:11,230 Evan. 51 00:03:13,810 --> 00:03:15,150 Look at that picture. 52 00:03:17,650 --> 00:03:18,790 We are here. 53 00:03:23,970 --> 00:03:28,122 The story of the Bible, the entire like arc of the library of 54 00:03:28,146 --> 00:03:32,590 scriptures begins with chaos and darkness. 55 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:37,240 And then in a moment. 56 00:03:37,900 --> 00:03:40,600 The Bible is not a science textbook. 57 00:03:41,900 --> 00:03:45,492 There are parts that are meant to be more literal and historical. 58 00:03:45,556 --> 00:03:46,484 There are more parts. 59 00:03:46,532 --> 00:03:48,760 There are parts that are meant to be like poetry. 60 00:03:50,060 --> 00:03:52,804 Genesis 1 is maybe some sort of a mixture. 61 00:03:52,852 --> 00:03:53,700 I don't know. 62 00:03:53,820 --> 00:03:57,444 All I know, it's that it's trying to testify to the reality 63 00:03:57,492 --> 00:04:02,600 that there is a God who speaks and things come into being. 64 00:04:04,340 --> 00:04:07,280 And so God's holy Spirit hovers over the chaos. 65 00:04:07,780 --> 00:04:11,160 And then God says on the very first day, let there be light. 66 00:04:14,820 --> 00:04:19,868 And maybe when God said let there be light, that was when that 67 00:04:19,924 --> 00:04:21,360 big bang happened. 68 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:26,604 And in a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second. 69 00:04:26,692 --> 00:04:33,596 I shared this from a couple weeks ago from the center of Astrophysics. 70 00:04:33,628 --> 00:04:36,120 I know you guys have been hanging out a lot on that site. 71 00:04:36,900 --> 00:04:39,516 From the Harvard and Smithsonian center of Astrophysics. 72 00:04:39,628 --> 00:04:44,572 In a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, the 73 00:04:44,596 --> 00:04:48,680 universe expanded at a rate of 10 to the 26th power. 74 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:54,360 Let there be light. 75 00:04:55,950 --> 00:05:02,518 When that happened, like all of a sudden all the makings for galaxies 76 00:05:02,614 --> 00:05:12,870 upon galaxies upon galaxies were racing, racing, expanding at 77 00:05:12,910 --> 00:05:14,610 that fast rate. 78 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:22,100 There were all the makings for all the galaxies, all the planets, 79 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,540 and yet there's this special one. 80 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,552 They're all special because they have God's fingerprint on them. 81 00:05:29,576 --> 00:05:31,540 Can you go back to the picture, Michael? 82 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,592 There's this special galaxy, one amongst I don't even know how 83 00:05:36,616 --> 00:05:40,672 many Jamin, do you know how many galaxies are out there in the 84 00:05:40,696 --> 00:05:41,460 universe? 85 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:43,264 Nobody knows. 86 00:05:43,312 --> 00:05:44,048 Okay, thank you. 87 00:05:44,104 --> 00:05:45,360 See, he corroborated me. 88 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:46,420 That wasn't planned. 89 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:56,052 This is one galaxy and then within that one galaxy there's a 90 00:05:56,076 --> 00:05:57,200 solar system. 91 00:05:59,180 --> 00:06:01,380 And sometime after Let there be light. 92 00:06:01,420 --> 00:06:03,360 And there was all the makings for this. 93 00:06:03,740 --> 00:06:05,828 Billions of years in the making. 94 00:06:05,964 --> 00:06:07,880 There's this planet. 95 00:06:10,620 --> 00:06:12,100 Nine planets surround the sun. 96 00:06:12,140 --> 00:06:18,482 Only one does the sun embrace upon this one. 97 00:06:18,506 --> 00:06:19,874 We take so much for granted. 98 00:06:19,922 --> 00:06:26,514 There we are like from the beginning, guys. 99 00:06:26,642 --> 00:06:33,230 God's heart was to spill out glory and light to created things. 100 00:06:35,210 --> 00:06:40,070 God was so excited to create and just share light and glory. 101 00:06:42,340 --> 00:06:45,212 There are all these beautiful things with this light and glory. 102 00:06:45,276 --> 00:06:48,800 God wanted to make a kingdom of light and glory. 103 00:06:49,140 --> 00:06:54,400 And yet there's this like special place we call earth. 104 00:06:54,820 --> 00:06:57,760 And within Earth there are these special beings. 105 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:59,320 That's you. 106 00:07:00,980 --> 00:07:02,108 Go to Psalm 8. 107 00:07:02,164 --> 00:07:06,666 Mikey the Psalmist was like was having a hard time reckoning 108 00:07:06,698 --> 00:07:07,510 with this. 109 00:07:08,130 --> 00:07:09,978 I hope I put it in there, Michael. 110 00:07:10,074 --> 00:07:10,586 I did. 111 00:07:10,658 --> 00:07:14,870 Sweet Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name. 112 00:07:18,370 --> 00:07:22,910 Throughout the earth you made your glory higher than the heaven. 113 00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:25,710 Keep going, Michael. 114 00:07:26,290 --> 00:07:29,514 From the mouths of nursing babies you've laid a strong foundation 115 00:07:29,562 --> 00:07:33,150 because your foes in order to stop vengeful enemies. 116 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:36,340 When I look up at your skies. 117 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,460 Alright, back to the scripture, Michael. 118 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,840 He's crushing it back there. 119 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:50,016 By the way, at what your fingers made the moon and the stars 120 00:07:50,048 --> 00:07:51,820 that you set firmly in place. 121 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,380 What are Human beings that you think about them. 122 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,596 What are human beings that you pay attention to them and yet you've 123 00:08:03,628 --> 00:08:09,580 made them only slightly less than divine, crowning them with glory 124 00:08:09,660 --> 00:08:10,800 and grandeur. 125 00:08:13,540 --> 00:08:16,828 You let them rule over your handiwork, putting everything under 126 00:08:16,884 --> 00:08:23,480 their feet, all sheep and all cattle, the wild animals too. 127 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:27,964 The birds in the sky, the fish of the ocean, everything that travels 128 00:08:28,012 --> 00:08:29,600 the pathways of the sea. 129 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,100 Lord our Lord, how majestic is your name throughout the earth. 130 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:40,384 I want to tell you that I have been traveling through the library 131 00:08:40,432 --> 00:08:43,360 of scriptures for the last several weeks, preparing for this 132 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:43,980 series. 133 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,352 Now, you can throw that other picture up there, Michael, not the 134 00:08:48,376 --> 00:08:49,940 Milky Way galaxy. 135 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:55,200 We're in a series called Dead Man Why Jesus Died and why It Still 136 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,860 Matters for Ordinary People. 137 00:08:58,530 --> 00:08:59,210 And we've been. 138 00:08:59,250 --> 00:09:02,730 We're asking questions like the ones, the easy questions you 139 00:09:02,770 --> 00:09:03,610 asked last week. 140 00:09:03,650 --> 00:09:05,670 We're going to tackle in this series. 141 00:09:07,010 --> 00:09:08,554 I wrote them all down. 142 00:09:08,722 --> 00:09:10,870 I'm trying to pair them with each week. 143 00:09:12,850 --> 00:09:16,090 But I've been exploring this question in the New Testament and 144 00:09:16,130 --> 00:09:17,870 really throughout the entire Bible. 145 00:09:18,610 --> 00:09:20,202 I promised I'd share it with you. 146 00:09:20,226 --> 00:09:20,570 I can. 147 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:22,170 I'll share you all my preparations. 148 00:09:22,250 --> 00:09:24,550 So if you want to get in the weeds with me, you can. 149 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:33,192 But here is what I have discovered when I look at this theme, 150 00:09:33,336 --> 00:09:35,768 the theme of a word we're going to look at today. 151 00:09:35,904 --> 00:09:37,448 This word salvation. 152 00:09:37,544 --> 00:09:38,740 Have you heard of it? 153 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,520 Jesus name when he's born. 154 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,260 Can you go to Matthew 1:21, Michael? 155 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:53,294 We said it last week, she will give birth to a son and you will 156 00:09:53,302 --> 00:09:55,934 call him Jesus because he will save his people from his sins. 157 00:09:55,982 --> 00:09:58,850 Jesus name means God saves or he saves. 158 00:09:59,750 --> 00:10:04,730 So what we're asking in this series is like, Jesus saves us. 159 00:10:05,190 --> 00:10:05,930 How? 160 00:10:06,710 --> 00:10:07,450 Why? 161 00:10:07,990 --> 00:10:09,370 Saves us from what? 162 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:14,382 And as some people ask, why does he have to die to do it? 163 00:10:14,566 --> 00:10:17,010 Why is blood and death the mechanism? 164 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:20,040 What's this salvation about? 165 00:10:21,860 --> 00:10:24,572 We're going to do that this series and I hope that by the time 166 00:10:24,596 --> 00:10:29,708 you get to Easter, you experience something that I've discovered 167 00:10:29,724 --> 00:10:30,524 in all my studies. 168 00:10:30,572 --> 00:10:34,520 And here's my thesis for this series. 169 00:10:35,620 --> 00:10:39,036 I hope that doesn't give you trigger or anything from school time. 170 00:10:39,188 --> 00:10:41,280 It's like the one thing I discovered. 171 00:10:42,510 --> 00:10:49,350 This salvation story is so much bigger, so much brighter, more 172 00:10:49,390 --> 00:10:53,770 beautiful, mysterious and freeing than we've ever heard. 173 00:10:55,630 --> 00:10:58,570 It is so big, you guys. 174 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:03,970 It's like galactic cosmic big. 175 00:11:05,950 --> 00:11:09,526 And it matters to every ordinary person who's ever lived 176 00:11:09,558 --> 00:11:10,410 on Earth. 177 00:11:12,490 --> 00:11:16,110 I want to kick off, like helping you to think about this big 178 00:11:16,410 --> 00:11:18,670 concept of salvation today. 179 00:11:20,570 --> 00:11:26,722 But before we go forward, I'm going to ask you a question when 180 00:11:26,746 --> 00:11:27,630 you hear. 181 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:30,310 So clear your mind for a minute. 182 00:11:30,730 --> 00:11:31,910 Take a breath. 183 00:11:34,490 --> 00:11:35,666 Try to be present. 184 00:11:35,818 --> 00:11:37,110 Clear your thoughts. 185 00:11:41,390 --> 00:11:45,846 Now I'm going to say a word and I want you to listen to the very 186 00:11:45,918 --> 00:11:47,590 first thoughts and feelings you have. 187 00:11:47,630 --> 00:11:48,770 As I say it. 188 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:52,410 Salvation. 189 00:12:00,430 --> 00:12:03,696 What thoughts or feelings came up for you online? 190 00:12:03,768 --> 00:12:05,260 We need it from you too. 191 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:09,140 Jesus. 192 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,060 Safe. 193 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:14,420 Okay. 194 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,900 Image of a cross with a light behind it. 195 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,416 What thoughts or feelings or words? 196 00:12:26,448 --> 00:12:27,220 Debbie. 197 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:28,980 New beginning. 198 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:33,540 Freedom. 199 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:39,940 Grace. 200 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:43,360 What words? 201 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:43,824 Thoughts. 202 00:12:43,872 --> 00:12:44,272 Feelings. 203 00:12:44,336 --> 00:12:46,220 Come to your mind when you hear this. 204 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:51,060 Salvation. 205 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:54,780 Come. 206 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,580 It was for me. 207 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:02,900 Okay. 208 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,100 Choice. 209 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:08,752 Somebody asked. 210 00:13:08,856 --> 00:13:12,816 One of our questions that we'll get to next week is I've heard 211 00:13:12,848 --> 00:13:18,080 this story that it's all about who Jesus is in his life and what 212 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,792 he does that saves us. 213 00:13:19,976 --> 00:13:22,480 And yet if I don't accept him, I'm not saved. 214 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:23,648 Help me understand that. 215 00:13:23,704 --> 00:13:26,018 Ross, the breakdown there. 216 00:13:26,074 --> 00:13:27,710 We'll get to that next week. 217 00:13:28,490 --> 00:13:29,170 Salvation. 218 00:13:29,250 --> 00:13:29,682 Thoughts. 219 00:13:29,746 --> 00:13:30,210 Feelings. 220 00:13:30,290 --> 00:13:34,514 Anybody have more challenging thoughts? 221 00:13:34,562 --> 00:13:35,270 Feelings? 222 00:13:40,810 --> 00:13:43,590 Fear for those who may not know salvation. 223 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:49,590 No longer bound by the things of this earth. 224 00:13:50,260 --> 00:13:51,200 Okay. 225 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:56,560 Sometimes I don't think it has any meaning. 226 00:13:58,260 --> 00:13:59,600 Thank you, Charles. 227 00:14:02,340 --> 00:14:03,724 Can you say more about that, Charles? 228 00:14:03,772 --> 00:14:04,600 What you mean? 229 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:06,560 Yeah. 230 00:14:09,620 --> 00:14:13,164 Disappointment from an old hat standpoint. 231 00:14:13,212 --> 00:14:18,690 Like the same old, same old old story. 232 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:22,130 Worn out story. 233 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:23,930 Angela. 234 00:14:26,030 --> 00:14:27,370 You thought of hell. 235 00:14:29,710 --> 00:14:30,310 Jason. 236 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:31,250 Me too. 237 00:14:32,190 --> 00:14:34,290 Three, four, five. 238 00:14:35,150 --> 00:14:35,930 Oh. 239 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:44,660 If you died tonight, do you know where you'd spend eternity? 240 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:47,184 Old Timothy. 241 00:14:47,232 --> 00:14:47,952 Evangelism. 242 00:14:48,016 --> 00:14:48,660 Nick. 243 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,952 Yes. 244 00:14:52,096 --> 00:14:57,280 You can get really academic with it and study it from like an 245 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,580 intellectual perspective and try to come up with a meaning. 246 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,656 But do you actually feel it? 247 00:15:02,728 --> 00:15:04,992 Is it something that matters to you? 248 00:15:05,176 --> 00:15:06,700 I saw a hand right here. 249 00:15:09,050 --> 00:15:10,030 Say it again. 250 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:12,882 Take something old and make it new. 251 00:15:12,906 --> 00:15:14,750 We're gonna segue right on that point. 252 00:15:15,530 --> 00:15:17,150 Here's what I want to do today. 253 00:15:17,530 --> 00:15:18,990 I want to show you. 254 00:15:21,850 --> 00:15:23,874 I admitted something to Ellie today. 255 00:15:23,962 --> 00:15:27,190 I feel what I'm going to say feels a little bit arrogant. 256 00:15:28,410 --> 00:15:29,550 Here's why. 257 00:15:30,570 --> 00:15:36,630 When I studied all this stuff, I feel like what I'm going to say 258 00:15:36,670 --> 00:15:41,830 today, like, hasn't been represented well, maybe hasn't even, 259 00:15:41,870 --> 00:15:43,090 like, been out there. 260 00:15:43,470 --> 00:15:51,450 I know it has, but I feel like I've come upon something in the scriptures 261 00:15:51,950 --> 00:15:53,222 that is, like. 262 00:15:53,406 --> 00:15:58,070 It helped me to, like, see it not just from an academic standpoint, 263 00:15:58,150 --> 00:16:00,182 but to like, get in touch with God's. 264 00:16:00,246 --> 00:16:04,332 How big and bright and beautiful and mysterious and freeing 265 00:16:04,396 --> 00:16:09,132 salvation is in a way that actually has meaning in a way that 266 00:16:09,156 --> 00:16:11,000 matters to me and to you. 267 00:16:11,380 --> 00:16:12,716 I'm with Charles. 268 00:16:12,908 --> 00:16:17,640 It made me feel more disappointed in my prior church experience. 269 00:16:17,940 --> 00:16:21,980 Why isn't this grandness, this beauty, this brightness. 270 00:16:22,060 --> 00:16:24,240 Why hasn't it been shared? 271 00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:27,960 I'll tell you my theory why. 272 00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:32,750 And it does get academic for a minute, so stay with me, please. 273 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:35,538 Some of you are like, I hate history so much. 274 00:16:35,594 --> 00:16:36,722 Don't go there. 275 00:16:36,906 --> 00:16:40,830 But if we do not study our history, what's the phrase say? 276 00:16:41,770 --> 00:16:43,550 We're bound to repeat it. 277 00:16:44,170 --> 00:16:48,130 Our country, the United States, was founded in the wake of 278 00:16:48,170 --> 00:16:53,510 a movement called the Enlightenment. 279 00:16:56,090 --> 00:17:01,362 I would wager that we didn't become enlightened from gifted us 280 00:17:01,386 --> 00:17:03,470 with many good things. 281 00:17:04,810 --> 00:17:09,058 Rational thinking, like the appreciation for, like, let's find 282 00:17:09,194 --> 00:17:11,362 the explanation for things. 283 00:17:11,546 --> 00:17:13,778 Let's find the answers for things. 284 00:17:13,834 --> 00:17:18,274 Let's get to the root of the causes, let's find the formulas, 285 00:17:18,402 --> 00:17:20,150 let's find the reasons. 286 00:17:20,499 --> 00:17:24,059 We don't really want to deal so much in the supernatural anymore 287 00:17:24,139 --> 00:17:25,839 because that's led us astray. 288 00:17:26,179 --> 00:17:29,931 One of our founding fathers came up with his own Bible, where 289 00:17:29,955 --> 00:17:32,759 he erased the miracles of Jesus out of it. 290 00:17:33,139 --> 00:17:35,115 Little guy by the name of Thomas Jefferson. 291 00:17:35,147 --> 00:17:36,279 Have you heard of him? 292 00:17:37,139 --> 00:17:40,571 The Jeffersonian Bible just focuses on the ethics of Jesus and 293 00:17:40,595 --> 00:17:42,639 strips out all the supernatural. 294 00:17:45,379 --> 00:17:49,990 And a lot of our theology, the way that we understand theology, 295 00:17:50,810 --> 00:17:53,830 rose up in that culture. 296 00:17:54,730 --> 00:17:59,810 A lot of our understanding about why Jesus died and what it 297 00:17:59,850 --> 00:18:04,322 does for us came out of a time when we wanted to put everything 298 00:18:04,426 --> 00:18:13,026 into a formula that we could make sense of that was concise, clear, 299 00:18:13,178 --> 00:18:15,470 like two plus two equals four. 300 00:18:16,360 --> 00:18:18,624 Like A plus B equals C. 301 00:18:18,792 --> 00:18:22,768 Let me show you the A plus B equals C salvation story. 302 00:18:22,824 --> 00:18:24,336 That's a little bit worn out. 303 00:18:24,488 --> 00:18:25,600 Stay with me. 304 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,160 I'm not just going to throw out the baby with the bath water 305 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,460 and leave you with nothing. 306 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:31,220 Okay? 307 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,380 The A. 308 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:38,980 Every single one of you is a wretched sinner. 309 00:18:41,970 --> 00:18:44,266 You were born guilty of sin. 310 00:18:44,378 --> 00:18:45,514 This is the formula. 311 00:18:45,562 --> 00:18:48,470 This isn't my interpretation that we're talking about today. 312 00:18:50,050 --> 00:18:51,870 Every one of you is a sinner. 313 00:18:52,690 --> 00:18:56,362 All the reformers in this time, like Calvin, Luther, and then 314 00:18:56,386 --> 00:18:59,562 later John Wesley, were like, you think humanity's totally depraved? 315 00:18:59,626 --> 00:19:00,330 Yep, me too. 316 00:19:00,370 --> 00:19:01,190 High five. 317 00:19:01,490 --> 00:19:03,722 And then Calvin was like, let's talk about predestination. 318 00:19:03,786 --> 00:19:05,594 Wesley's like, see you later, bro. 319 00:19:05,762 --> 00:19:06,900 Out on that. 320 00:19:07,050 --> 00:19:07,360 Really? 321 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,136 Jacob Arminius before him? 322 00:19:09,288 --> 00:19:11,180 Anyways, who cares about that? 323 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,296 The formula starts out with, you're all totally depraved. 324 00:19:15,488 --> 00:19:16,260 Woo. 325 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,020 Born in original sin. 326 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,020 Exciting stuff. 327 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,340 Each one of you has been sinning your whole life. 328 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,120 Now, listen, there's truth in some of this stuff, so stay with 329 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,020 me, okay? 330 00:19:36,340 --> 00:19:37,084 B. 331 00:19:37,252 --> 00:19:38,172 Wait, no, we're not to b. 332 00:19:38,196 --> 00:19:38,380 It. 333 00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:39,372 Sorry, we're still on A. 334 00:19:39,476 --> 00:19:41,004 Because of your aness. 335 00:19:41,132 --> 00:19:41,932 You're a sinner. 336 00:19:41,996 --> 00:19:44,040 You deserve punishment for it. 337 00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:53,948 Okay, and the just punishment for your sins is what kind of death, 338 00:19:54,004 --> 00:19:54,880 Melissa? 339 00:19:55,540 --> 00:19:56,748 Fiery death. 340 00:19:56,884 --> 00:19:58,556 Eternal torture and punishment. 341 00:19:58,588 --> 00:20:05,226 Or to put it nicely, eternal separation from God, AKA hey, you're 342 00:20:05,258 --> 00:20:06,470 following with me. 343 00:20:07,490 --> 00:20:08,490 You've heard this one. 344 00:20:08,530 --> 00:20:09,230 Okay? 345 00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:15,530 Old hat. 346 00:20:15,610 --> 00:20:20,570 Okay, B. 347 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:21,790 Are you ready? 348 00:20:23,330 --> 00:20:25,510 You guys could fill in B for me. 349 00:20:26,370 --> 00:20:37,960 B is God sends the Son and he faces the consequences that you deserve 350 00:20:38,460 --> 00:20:39,880 on your behalf. 351 00:20:40,460 --> 00:20:43,640 He is a substitution for your punishment. 352 00:20:45,020 --> 00:20:49,000 He pays that consequence when he suffers and dies on the cross. 353 00:20:52,620 --> 00:21:02,780 So that, see, if you believe in him, you shall not perish in. 354 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:17,060 I'm looking for a word again, but have A plus B equals C formulas. 355 00:21:19,810 --> 00:21:24,506 How many of you, like, that has been the basic understanding 356 00:21:24,538 --> 00:21:26,170 of Christianity that you've had? 357 00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:28,186 I'd love to hear a show of hands. 358 00:21:28,218 --> 00:21:31,034 Like, this is how you basically understand what salvation 359 00:21:31,082 --> 00:21:34,230 is about in the past. 360 00:21:35,650 --> 00:21:39,830 All right, what I just said, I'm not making this up. 361 00:21:40,930 --> 00:21:48,370 That became popular in, like, the 16th century, but you would have 362 00:21:48,410 --> 00:21:51,230 thought that's how it's always been. 363 00:21:51,850 --> 00:21:56,770 It rose up in a time when, like, we were trying to explain things. 364 00:21:56,810 --> 00:22:00,690 There was a Reformation, and they were trying to, like, explain 365 00:22:00,770 --> 00:22:01,058 things. 366 00:22:01,114 --> 00:22:01,810 And, like. 367 00:22:01,930 --> 00:22:04,402 So some new denominations got started. 368 00:22:04,586 --> 00:22:07,842 You got some Presbyterians, and then you got some Lutherans, 369 00:22:07,906 --> 00:22:08,930 and then you've got. 370 00:22:09,050 --> 00:22:12,242 And then after all those you've got, you've got this kind 371 00:22:12,266 --> 00:22:12,994 of Presbyterian. 372 00:22:13,042 --> 00:22:13,874 That kind of Presbyterian. 373 00:22:13,922 --> 00:22:14,834 This kind of Presbyterian. 374 00:22:14,882 --> 00:22:19,650 Baptist, Baptist, Baptist, Baptist, ELCA, MO Synod. 375 00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:22,170 On and on and on and on and on. 376 00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:24,690 We wanted a formula. 377 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:29,102 Hang on with me. 378 00:22:29,206 --> 00:22:30,970 If you're like, he's doing it again. 379 00:22:31,430 --> 00:22:34,702 Like that Sunday long ago when he had a tent thing and he said, 380 00:22:34,726 --> 00:22:35,694 throw the tent in the trash. 381 00:22:35,742 --> 00:22:36,430 And I went home. 382 00:22:36,470 --> 00:22:37,610 Like, what? 383 00:22:39,270 --> 00:22:42,062 If you don't remember it, it was an infamous Sunday for me because 384 00:22:42,086 --> 00:22:44,060 I regretted some of the things I did that Sunday. 385 00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:49,540 Anyways, thank you, sir. 386 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,220 See, I was sitting in my A, the A part of the formula. 387 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:03,648 So what we did was we reduced salvation to something that we could 388 00:23:03,704 --> 00:23:09,060 control, something that we could hold with certainty. 389 00:23:12,530 --> 00:23:13,550 My God. 390 00:23:17,090 --> 00:23:19,230 Evangelism became easier. 391 00:23:21,970 --> 00:23:23,550 Church became easier. 392 00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:31,402 I've shared with you a quote from Brene Brown that applies here. 393 00:23:31,586 --> 00:23:35,070 She says that you cannot selectively numb emotions. 394 00:23:36,930 --> 00:23:40,170 So if you're feeling a lot of pain and trauma and you start to 395 00:23:40,210 --> 00:23:43,150 drink to numb your pain, you also numb your joy. 396 00:23:46,370 --> 00:23:47,590 Are you with me? 397 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:52,986 Now, whether you agree with that statement or not, I'm applying 398 00:23:53,018 --> 00:23:53,418 it here. 399 00:23:53,474 --> 00:24:00,576 You also can't selectively shrink belief in salvation. 400 00:24:00,738 --> 00:24:02,000 Here's what I mean. 401 00:24:03,180 --> 00:24:10,580 If you shrink salvation down to that formula, you also shrink 402 00:24:10,740 --> 00:24:12,880 your capacity to love people. 403 00:24:17,660 --> 00:24:18,516 Don't get me wrong. 404 00:24:18,548 --> 00:24:21,940 There are plenty of people who have tried and true believe in that 405 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:26,874 formula and love people very well and wonderfully. 406 00:24:27,052 --> 00:24:30,750 But I'm telling you, there's a bigger view of salvation that makes 407 00:24:30,790 --> 00:24:36,014 your view of people explode with beauty and love and compassion 408 00:24:36,062 --> 00:24:37,250 and brightness. 409 00:24:38,310 --> 00:24:42,046 If you shrink down salvation to that formula, it also shrinks 410 00:24:42,078 --> 00:24:43,410 your view of God. 411 00:24:45,590 --> 00:24:49,182 You don't just shrink or reduce salvation to the formula. 412 00:24:49,246 --> 00:24:52,090 You shrink a lot of things that are involved in it. 413 00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,180 So did we get enlightened? 414 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,260 I don't know. 415 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,032 We did with some things. 416 00:25:07,136 --> 00:25:08,168 We've discovered a lot. 417 00:25:08,224 --> 00:25:09,160 A lot of good stuff. 418 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:09,880 What time is it? 419 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:10,520 10:25. 420 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:11,160 I'm still good. 421 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,260 You still with me? 422 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:13,500 Okay. 423 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,220 Do you need to do any jumping jacks or anything to stay with me? 424 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:22,706 Yes, sir. 425 00:25:22,738 --> 00:25:23,470 Go ahead. 426 00:25:28,330 --> 00:25:29,074 Yes. 427 00:25:29,202 --> 00:25:29,910 Yes. 428 00:25:30,650 --> 00:25:32,642 And Billy Graham is a great example. 429 00:25:32,706 --> 00:25:35,490 Billy Graham is a guy that actually, he said a lot of things. 430 00:25:35,530 --> 00:25:37,870 He said a lot of things that I really like. 431 00:25:39,050 --> 00:25:44,034 I think he's one of the best of evangelical Christianity in some 432 00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:44,274 ways. 433 00:25:44,322 --> 00:25:45,250 This is my opinion. 434 00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:46,882 Who cares if you agree with it? 435 00:25:46,906 --> 00:25:48,660 Because our goal is not to agree with Ross. 436 00:25:48,810 --> 00:25:49,216 Right? 437 00:25:49,288 --> 00:25:51,380 It's to seek to be in agreement with Jesus. 438 00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:55,460 He's a great example of a guy who, like, lives by the formula. 439 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,768 Abc. 440 00:25:56,864 --> 00:25:57,500 Right. 441 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,380 But you can't selectively shrink. 442 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,168 You shrink down salvation, you'll shrink your view of God, you'll 443 00:26:05,184 --> 00:26:08,020 shrink your view of people, you'll shrink your view of yourself, 444 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,180 you'll shrink. 445 00:26:14,930 --> 00:26:16,710 I have good news for you today. 446 00:26:17,490 --> 00:26:20,710 Really, really, really good news. 447 00:26:21,170 --> 00:26:27,194 Salvation is bigger and brighter, more mysterious and freeing 448 00:26:27,242 --> 00:26:29,710 and beautiful than we've ever heard. 449 00:26:30,770 --> 00:26:32,710 And I'm not making it up. 450 00:26:33,010 --> 00:26:39,450 It's been in the Bible all along, honestly. 451 00:26:39,530 --> 00:26:40,162 A Bible. 452 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:41,170 I keep saying this. 453 00:26:41,210 --> 00:26:43,910 I'm not even that big of a Lord of the Rings fan. 454 00:26:45,370 --> 00:26:46,430 I'm not. 455 00:26:48,090 --> 00:26:50,674 I do think the books are pretty darn good. 456 00:26:50,762 --> 00:26:53,122 I'm still trying to slog my way through the second one. 457 00:26:53,146 --> 00:26:55,394 He just talks about a forest for like 40 pages. 458 00:26:55,442 --> 00:26:57,070 I'm like, we can move on, man. 459 00:26:58,090 --> 00:27:00,418 I'm not even a big Star wars fan. 460 00:27:00,514 --> 00:27:01,510 No offense. 461 00:27:01,850 --> 00:27:05,410 They in some ways did a better job of giving us a picture of what 462 00:27:05,450 --> 00:27:07,550 salvation is like than churches did. 463 00:27:08,770 --> 00:27:10,682 Sorry, sorry, sorry, Jack. 464 00:27:10,826 --> 00:27:11,550 Vic. 465 00:27:13,010 --> 00:27:17,130 Because they had this big cosmic battle that was waging good 466 00:27:17,170 --> 00:27:19,882 versus evil, light intruding on dark. 467 00:27:19,946 --> 00:27:22,230 That's what the entire Bible is about. 468 00:27:25,330 --> 00:27:28,666 Go to the one thing, there are some text slides, Mikey. 469 00:27:28,698 --> 00:27:30,070 I don't know which one is which. 470 00:27:31,010 --> 00:27:34,720 That's the thesis of the whole series. 471 00:27:35,820 --> 00:27:39,508 I hope by Easter, like you get a little bit of this in your heart. 472 00:27:39,564 --> 00:27:40,880 Go to the next one. 473 00:27:42,940 --> 00:27:45,172 This is the one thing for today with Jesus. 474 00:27:45,236 --> 00:27:50,644 The heavenly kingdom of light and glory is moving into earth, saving 475 00:27:50,692 --> 00:27:55,880 it from every spiritual force of darkness that is destroying humankind. 476 00:27:57,260 --> 00:27:58,756 The Bible has this. 477 00:27:58,828 --> 00:28:02,596 It's not an accident, folks, that everything is about God's light 478 00:28:02,668 --> 00:28:04,012 and God's glory. 479 00:28:04,196 --> 00:28:09,004 That when God created, God is like this beautiful, big, transcendent, 480 00:28:09,052 --> 00:28:13,740 glorious, brilliant being who says, I want to spill out that stuff 481 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:18,240 onto the earth, onto a creation and pour it into humankind. 482 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:22,796 Every human being with glory and light in their soul. 483 00:28:22,988 --> 00:28:27,132 Genesis, right after Let There Be light, the pinnacle of creation 484 00:28:27,276 --> 00:28:30,560 is let us create humankind in our image. 485 00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:33,290 Day one, it's good. 486 00:28:33,330 --> 00:28:34,170 Day two, it's good. 487 00:28:34,210 --> 00:28:34,970 Day three, it's good. 488 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:35,722 Day four, it's good. 489 00:28:35,746 --> 00:28:36,490 Day five, it's good. 490 00:28:36,530 --> 00:28:37,322 Day six. 491 00:28:37,426 --> 00:28:41,914 When that humanity is created, it is supremely good because humankind 492 00:28:41,962 --> 00:28:43,754 has God's light and glory. 493 00:28:43,802 --> 00:28:49,818 They are God's light beings meant to take care of this big creation 494 00:28:49,914 --> 00:28:50,910 with God. 495 00:28:51,570 --> 00:28:55,194 It's a great and beautiful collaboration between God and humankind. 496 00:28:55,242 --> 00:28:56,394 God could do it alone. 497 00:28:56,522 --> 00:28:58,154 God says, I don't want to do it alone. 498 00:28:58,202 --> 00:28:59,590 I want to do it with you. 499 00:29:03,690 --> 00:29:07,270 But then, of course, what happened. 500 00:29:09,050 --> 00:29:11,870 Shortly thereafter, the darkness was born too. 501 00:29:15,930 --> 00:29:17,458 The darkness was born. 502 00:29:17,554 --> 00:29:21,634 And I want to show you in scriptures how the entire scripture 503 00:29:21,682 --> 00:29:23,810 from COVID to cover is about like this. 504 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:28,858 It's a bigger cosmic view of salvation that when like, Jesus comes 505 00:29:28,914 --> 00:29:33,830 to Earth, it is a who said was here. 506 00:29:34,210 --> 00:29:35,350 What's your name? 507 00:29:35,890 --> 00:29:36,630 J. 508 00:29:37,410 --> 00:29:38,390 Thank you. 509 00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:41,830 You said it's like an old. 510 00:29:44,370 --> 00:29:47,910 Taking the old and making it new. 511 00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:51,258 That's salvation in a nutshell. 512 00:29:51,274 --> 00:29:52,110 In the Bible. 513 00:29:53,910 --> 00:29:55,650 It's not a formula. 514 00:29:56,070 --> 00:30:00,942 It's about God's heavenly kingdom of light piercing the darkness 515 00:30:01,006 --> 00:30:02,974 and taking back over the earth. 516 00:30:03,022 --> 00:30:04,450 It's like an invasion. 517 00:30:05,110 --> 00:30:11,726 But instead of with weapons like swords and guns and bombs, isn't 518 00:30:11,758 --> 00:30:12,570 it love? 519 00:30:15,990 --> 00:30:17,726 The invasion, the weapon. 520 00:30:17,918 --> 00:30:20,410 The weapon is love. 521 00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:23,550 Watch this. 522 00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:25,918 Start going through the scriptures one by one, Michael. 523 00:30:25,934 --> 00:30:28,846 I have no idea what order they're in in terms of relevance, 524 00:30:28,878 --> 00:30:31,182 but let's have at it, because I don't have my phone. 525 00:30:31,326 --> 00:30:33,810 I want to show you this cosmic picture. 526 00:30:34,310 --> 00:30:37,838 Is that the first one, Michael, in the list? 527 00:30:37,894 --> 00:30:39,130 The big, long list. 528 00:30:39,670 --> 00:30:40,450 Cool. 529 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:47,350 So from the beginning, like, this is from a prophet named Habakkuk. 530 00:30:48,650 --> 00:30:50,226 Say Habakkuk. 531 00:30:50,418 --> 00:30:51,922 I want to make sure you're still with me. 532 00:30:51,946 --> 00:30:54,030 You can name your next pet that or something. 533 00:30:55,370 --> 00:30:56,098 Or child. 534 00:30:56,154 --> 00:30:58,790 I mean, we named our kid Boaz. 535 00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:02,434 Someone said, are you really going to name your kid that weird 536 00:31:02,482 --> 00:31:02,930 name? 537 00:31:03,050 --> 00:31:04,110 Yes, we are. 538 00:31:04,890 --> 00:31:05,618 Listen to this. 539 00:31:05,674 --> 00:31:07,650 Habakkuk 2, chapter 2. 540 00:31:07,690 --> 00:31:10,370 This is the vision of the old being. 541 00:31:10,410 --> 00:31:11,256 Redone. 542 00:31:11,418 --> 00:31:15,532 The land, the land, all of it will be full of the knowledge of 543 00:31:15,556 --> 00:31:16,588 the Lord's glory. 544 00:31:16,684 --> 00:31:19,280 Just as the waters cover the sea. 545 00:31:20,420 --> 00:31:24,748 So when this thing gets made right, glory is going to spill out 546 00:31:24,884 --> 00:31:27,120 and cover the whole earth. 547 00:31:29,060 --> 00:31:31,320 God's glory is going to take over. 548 00:31:32,660 --> 00:31:36,200 God's brilliance is going to reform everything. 549 00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,160 Forgiveness is a part of it. 550 00:31:39,890 --> 00:31:42,030 Forgiveness is a part of the glory. 551 00:31:43,090 --> 00:31:45,070 Go to the next scripture, Michael. 552 00:31:47,010 --> 00:31:48,346 She will give birth to a son. 553 00:31:48,378 --> 00:31:54,470 We already did this one Matthew 4. 554 00:31:55,010 --> 00:31:56,190 This is huge. 555 00:31:57,730 --> 00:31:59,722 This is the good news according to Jesus. 556 00:31:59,786 --> 00:32:03,274 Look how they understood, like what Jesus coming means. 557 00:32:03,442 --> 00:32:05,034 This is an old prophecy. 558 00:32:05,082 --> 00:32:06,906 Land of Zebulun, land of Naphtali. 559 00:32:06,938 --> 00:32:09,914 They're places in Israel, along the sea, across the Jordan, 560 00:32:09,962 --> 00:32:10,990 Galilee of the Gentiles. 561 00:32:11,050 --> 00:32:12,694 Tiles Translation. 562 00:32:12,742 --> 00:32:15,330 Unremarkable places that most people don't care about. 563 00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:21,090 The people who lived in dark have seen a great light. 564 00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:26,230 And a light has come upon those who lived in the region in 565 00:32:26,270 --> 00:32:27,810 the shadow of death. 566 00:32:29,150 --> 00:32:30,290 Next line. 567 00:32:30,590 --> 00:32:34,422 From that time, Jesus began to announce, change your hearts and 568 00:32:34,446 --> 00:32:34,822 lives. 569 00:32:34,926 --> 00:32:36,246 Here comes the kingdom of the heavens. 570 00:32:36,278 --> 00:32:39,090 In other words, the kingdom of the heavens has come near. 571 00:32:41,020 --> 00:32:46,052 The kingdom of glory and light is coming near to invade the earth, 572 00:32:46,116 --> 00:32:50,196 where the spiritual forces of darkness and wickedness are taking 573 00:32:50,268 --> 00:32:53,560 over and are crushing humankind. 574 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,920 Go back again. 575 00:32:56,540 --> 00:32:59,828 Do you see how the prophets understood that the world is getting 576 00:32:59,884 --> 00:33:02,436 destroyed by darkness and the shadow of death? 577 00:33:02,508 --> 00:33:03,492 Psalm 23. 578 00:33:03,596 --> 00:33:05,652 Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I 579 00:33:05,676 --> 00:33:07,760 will fear no evil, for you are with me. 580 00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:12,122 This is about an invasion of life and light and glory coming to 581 00:33:12,146 --> 00:33:12,474 the earth. 582 00:33:12,522 --> 00:33:16,714 Keep going, Michael, keep going. 583 00:33:16,882 --> 00:33:17,914 Next scripture. 584 00:33:18,042 --> 00:33:21,002 Look at this one more time. 585 00:33:21,026 --> 00:33:22,554 Jay, what's your interpretation? 586 00:33:22,682 --> 00:33:23,550 Salvation. 587 00:33:25,250 --> 00:33:27,430 Taking the old and making it new. 588 00:33:27,730 --> 00:33:29,470 It is not an accident. 589 00:33:30,290 --> 00:33:33,630 Genesis 1 starts within the beginning. 590 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:39,452 The people who wrote John 1 intentionally copied Genesis. 591 00:33:39,596 --> 00:33:40,280 Why? 592 00:33:40,980 --> 00:33:44,560 Because they were saying God is recreating the whole earth. 593 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:48,316 It's a new beginning. 594 00:33:48,428 --> 00:33:51,260 Everything is made new, including you. 595 00:33:51,380 --> 00:33:53,200 It's not just a formula. 596 00:33:55,140 --> 00:33:57,996 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God. 597 00:33:58,028 --> 00:33:59,440 And the Word was God. 598 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:00,680 Mysterious stuff. 599 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,180 Put that into a formula, for Pete's sake. 600 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,464 The Word was with God in the beginning. 601 00:34:05,512 --> 00:34:06,808 It's like God's mind. 602 00:34:06,944 --> 00:34:08,280 The message in God's heart. 603 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,560 Was with God in the beginning. 604 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:10,120 Keep going. 605 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,800 We're going to go through this one quickly. 606 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,540 Everything came into being through the Word. 607 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,340 And without the Word, nothing came into being. 608 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,880 So before time even began, there was this being, this word with 609 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:24,540 God. 610 00:34:24,969 --> 00:34:26,145 What came into being? 611 00:34:26,217 --> 00:34:27,249 Keep going, Michael. 612 00:34:27,329 --> 00:34:28,753 Through the Word was life. 613 00:34:28,841 --> 00:34:30,589 And the life was the. 614 00:34:32,169 --> 00:34:34,561 Come on, you're not as fired up as I am. 615 00:34:34,585 --> 00:34:36,449 I've been spending too much time in the weeds with this. 616 00:34:36,489 --> 00:34:36,977 I'm like. 617 00:34:37,033 --> 00:34:38,193 Like a mad scientist. 618 00:34:38,241 --> 00:34:39,777 You can feel it today, can't you? 619 00:34:39,913 --> 00:34:42,305 Has Ross been drinking too much caffeine today? 620 00:34:42,457 --> 00:34:45,989 No, I've been drinking mushroom coffee with 80% less caffeine. 621 00:34:49,929 --> 00:34:52,269 This is just this exciting to me. 622 00:34:53,779 --> 00:34:59,787 It is my whole life I've been like, Amanda, like, salvation doesn't 623 00:34:59,803 --> 00:35:00,799 mean anything. 624 00:35:03,299 --> 00:35:04,679 This can't be it. 625 00:35:05,219 --> 00:35:07,799 I've discovered the last few weeks it's not it. 626 00:35:08,419 --> 00:35:09,839 Thanks be to God. 627 00:35:11,219 --> 00:35:15,371 It's so much bigger, though. 628 00:35:15,395 --> 00:35:16,411 The Word was through. 629 00:35:16,435 --> 00:35:17,719 The Word was life. 630 00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:21,350 The life was the light for all people. 631 00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:25,350 God's recreating the entire world. 632 00:35:27,970 --> 00:35:30,874 Recreate it in fullness of light and glory. 633 00:35:30,922 --> 00:35:33,562 Habakkuk says the knowledge of the Lord's glory is going to cover 634 00:35:33,586 --> 00:35:33,962 this thing. 635 00:35:33,986 --> 00:35:37,162 It's like you spilled a can of golden paint on the earth and it 636 00:35:37,186 --> 00:35:38,630 just, like covered it. 637 00:35:39,730 --> 00:35:41,322 That's what it'll be in the end. 638 00:35:41,426 --> 00:35:42,906 Keep going, Michael. 639 00:35:43,098 --> 00:35:46,362 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness doesn't 640 00:35:46,426 --> 00:35:47,910 extinguish the light. 641 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:51,910 This light is coming and the darkness doesn't stand a chance. 642 00:35:52,890 --> 00:35:53,870 Keep going. 643 00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:56,210 A man named John was sent. 644 00:35:56,250 --> 00:35:57,762 He was preparing the way for Jesus. 645 00:35:57,826 --> 00:35:58,670 Keep going. 646 00:35:59,450 --> 00:36:06,578 He came as a witness concerning the so that through him 647 00:36:06,634 --> 00:36:08,190 everyone would believe in the. 648 00:36:09,130 --> 00:36:10,450 Are you getting the drift here? 649 00:36:10,490 --> 00:36:11,870 What the Bible's all about? 650 00:36:13,210 --> 00:36:19,546 It's about God's heavenly light being created, Darkness entering 651 00:36:19,578 --> 00:36:20,666 in through some mystery. 652 00:36:20,698 --> 00:36:21,946 We can't do that today. 653 00:36:22,098 --> 00:36:23,130 We need another hour. 654 00:36:23,170 --> 00:36:24,790 How did the darkness come about? 655 00:36:25,490 --> 00:36:26,550 Long story. 656 00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:31,642 But light comes back to restore the Earth. 657 00:36:31,786 --> 00:36:32,710 Keep going. 658 00:36:33,650 --> 00:36:37,350 The true light that shines on all people was coming into the world. 659 00:36:38,130 --> 00:36:40,122 He's kind of obsessed with light. 660 00:36:40,306 --> 00:36:44,990 All the Bible is salvation is cosmic, galactic. 661 00:36:46,210 --> 00:36:49,674 It's like that inflationary period I told you about when God 662 00:36:49,722 --> 00:36:51,034 said, let there be light. 663 00:36:51,202 --> 00:36:54,010 And in a billionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second, 664 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:57,274 the universe expanded at a rate of 10 to the 26th power. 665 00:36:57,362 --> 00:37:00,010 It's like when Jesus came to the Earth, there was another big 666 00:37:00,050 --> 00:37:00,670 bang. 667 00:37:02,290 --> 00:37:05,050 And all of a sudden, this light of God, this kingdom, started 668 00:37:05,090 --> 00:37:10,162 to expand at an impossible rate that the Darkness couldn't overcome. 669 00:37:10,226 --> 00:37:14,190 The Roman Empire tried to extinguish it repeatedly and it won. 670 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:19,634 But then the church started to join up with the forces of darkness 671 00:37:19,682 --> 00:37:20,270 again. 672 00:37:21,290 --> 00:37:23,010 In our time, we got to choose the light. 673 00:37:23,050 --> 00:37:24,098 That's the practical thing today. 674 00:37:24,154 --> 00:37:25,510 Keep going, Michael. 675 00:37:26,730 --> 00:37:28,114 Alright, go to the next scripture. 676 00:37:28,162 --> 00:37:29,794 We're almost done with the scriptures, I promise. 677 00:37:29,842 --> 00:37:31,390 And we're almost done for today. 678 00:37:33,220 --> 00:37:34,760 We've heard this one, right? 679 00:37:35,540 --> 00:37:37,000 Have you heard of this one? 680 00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:40,360 Two chapters after chapter one. 681 00:37:41,220 --> 00:37:45,420 You got to understand this scripture in context of the first 682 00:37:45,540 --> 00:37:46,320 chapter. 683 00:37:47,620 --> 00:37:50,000 We turned this into a formula. 684 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:56,800 If our formula was going to work, we needed to say God so loved 685 00:37:57,140 --> 00:38:05,386 individual people that he gave his son so that everyone who believes 686 00:38:05,418 --> 00:38:10,890 in him will not go to hell, but will go to some paradise that 687 00:38:10,930 --> 00:38:12,430 happened after you die. 688 00:38:14,770 --> 00:38:16,870 It says God so loved the. 689 00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:23,066 I'm trying to tell you that like Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, 690 00:38:23,258 --> 00:38:26,590 God comes to restore the entire earth. 691 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,040 God comes to save the whole thing. 692 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,304 If you think I'm lying. 693 00:38:30,432 --> 00:38:31,616 We love verse 16. 694 00:38:31,688 --> 00:38:32,860 What about 17? 695 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:35,936 Next verse. 696 00:38:35,968 --> 00:38:36,496 There, Michael. 697 00:38:36,528 --> 00:38:37,120 Is it on there? 698 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,424 Yes. 699 00:38:37,472 --> 00:38:39,824 God didn't send his son in the world to judge the world. 700 00:38:39,912 --> 00:38:40,580 Wow. 701 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,060 But that the world might be. 702 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:46,860 Well, look at that. 703 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,620 Does it say individual people? 704 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:56,870 And maybe I have had too much mushroom coffee or something. 705 00:38:58,050 --> 00:39:04,910 But that the God. 706 00:39:07,170 --> 00:39:08,550 This is so big. 707 00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:13,130 God has come to restore the whole thing. 708 00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:14,586 Keep going, Michael. 709 00:39:14,618 --> 00:39:16,030 What's the next scripture? 710 00:39:17,820 --> 00:39:19,280 Oh, what's this one? 711 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:21,720 Is it Ephesians? 712 00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:24,760 Oh, cool. 713 00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:28,292 This is Paul writing a letter from prison. 714 00:39:28,356 --> 00:39:31,092 Brothers and sisters, become imitators of me and watch those who 715 00:39:31,116 --> 00:39:31,300 live. 716 00:39:31,340 --> 00:39:33,284 This way you can use us as models. 717 00:39:33,332 --> 00:39:34,080 Keep going. 718 00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:38,500 As I've told you many times, and now with deep sadness, many people 719 00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:40,120 live as enemies of the cross. 720 00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:45,520 He's not happy about people who are doing these things. 721 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,820 Keep going. 722 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:50,456 Our citizenship is in heaven. 723 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:52,200 We look forward to a savior that comes from there. 724 00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:53,128 The Lord Jesus Christ. 725 00:39:53,184 --> 00:39:54,728 Oh, I remember why I put this one in. 726 00:39:54,784 --> 00:39:55,620 Next one. 727 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:57,940 Look at this. 728 00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,656 He will transform our humble bodies so that they are like his 729 00:40:01,728 --> 00:40:02,900 glorious body. 730 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,320 Like everything gets clothed in glory. 731 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,740 Everyone gets transformed into glory. 732 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,060 Next scripture. 733 00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:14,658 I said I was almost done. 734 00:40:14,794 --> 00:40:16,594 Look how cosmic this is. 735 00:40:16,762 --> 00:40:20,510 Somehow we quoted this verse a ton in church and missed it. 736 00:40:22,090 --> 00:40:24,434 This feels like it could be straight out of Lord of the Rings 737 00:40:24,482 --> 00:40:25,230 or something. 738 00:40:25,690 --> 00:40:28,802 We aren't fighting against human enemies, but against rulers, 739 00:40:28,866 --> 00:40:31,750 authorities, forces of cosmic darkness. 740 00:40:33,290 --> 00:40:38,988 I told you, I'm not making up how cosmic like the Bible is and 741 00:40:39,044 --> 00:40:41,600 spiritual powers of evil in the heavens. 742 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:45,720 This is kind of weird, right? 743 00:40:49,220 --> 00:40:51,800 All right, I'll transition to the end on this point. 744 00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,212 Ooh, 1041. 745 00:40:53,236 --> 00:40:53,920 Okay. 746 00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:00,364 In a way, we've become more of a spiritual but not religious culture, 747 00:41:00,412 --> 00:41:01,000 right? 748 00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:02,640 Yep. 749 00:41:03,390 --> 00:41:04,518 It's in the data. 750 00:41:04,654 --> 00:41:05,330 Right. 751 00:41:05,630 --> 00:41:09,050 There's a phrase popping up all the time that I find curious. 752 00:41:11,710 --> 00:41:16,210 Someone will go to Starbucks and they ordered something online, 753 00:41:16,510 --> 00:41:23,814 and it's for pickup, and you get there and you ordered a Ashley. 754 00:41:23,862 --> 00:41:25,050 What's your favorite drink? 755 00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:26,490 Chai. 756 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:32,252 Ashley orders a chai, and she goes there, and they accidentally 757 00:41:32,316 --> 00:41:33,240 made two. 758 00:41:34,420 --> 00:41:36,524 And then we'll say, not Ashley. 759 00:41:36,572 --> 00:41:40,668 But hypothetically, someone like Ashley says, well, the universe 760 00:41:40,844 --> 00:41:43,880 wanted me to have two instead of one today. 761 00:41:45,860 --> 00:41:48,520 And it's like Academy Award music. 762 00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:54,920 It's like the universe that really the universe did. 763 00:41:56,370 --> 00:41:57,994 We'll talk like that. 764 00:41:58,162 --> 00:42:00,586 We'll say we're spiritual but not religious. 765 00:42:00,698 --> 00:42:05,466 But when we actually dig into, like, spiritual stuff in the Bible, 766 00:42:05,498 --> 00:42:07,230 we're like, whoa, whoa, whoa. 767 00:42:08,290 --> 00:42:10,042 Forces of cosmic darkness. 768 00:42:10,106 --> 00:42:11,670 That's too weird for me. 769 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:15,034 We'll say, the universe wanted me to have two chives. 770 00:42:15,082 --> 00:42:18,426 But when I say, like, the Bible is telling us about a cosmic 771 00:42:18,458 --> 00:42:20,710 war that's waging, we're like, hey, hold on. 772 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,056 That's too much. 773 00:42:22,128 --> 00:42:24,392 Back up, Ross. 774 00:42:24,456 --> 00:42:25,784 I'm spiritual but not religious. 775 00:42:25,832 --> 00:42:26,312 Yeah, I know. 776 00:42:26,336 --> 00:42:26,712 Me too. 777 00:42:26,736 --> 00:42:29,176 There are spiritual powers of evil that are, like, controlling 778 00:42:29,208 --> 00:42:29,980 the earth. 779 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,680 There's this guy who's leading a cult over in Whiteland, man. 780 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:38,060 He talks about spiritual forces of darkness and all that stuff. 781 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:40,780 Keep going, Michael. 782 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,780 All right, so what? 783 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,980 Go to the last text slide. 784 00:42:49,720 --> 00:43:01,056 Not the scripture, just the text slides and the. 785 00:43:01,208 --> 00:43:02,220 There we go. 786 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:10,860 We're going to talk more about your questions, but the so what? 787 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:18,374 Every day, every moment, is a chance to claim our crown with Jesus 788 00:43:18,422 --> 00:43:20,370 and live for his kingdom of light. 789 00:43:21,790 --> 00:43:23,250 That's the so what? 790 00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:28,050 Oh, man. 791 00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:32,918 We only have one song, folks, after this. 792 00:43:33,054 --> 00:43:35,222 So I have to tell you the story, because if I don't make it 793 00:43:35,246 --> 00:43:38,410 practical, I don't want it to be like Nick is saying, like, academic. 794 00:43:39,470 --> 00:43:40,422 This is practical. 795 00:43:40,486 --> 00:43:42,996 Like, every day, folks, is a chance to. 796 00:43:43,078 --> 00:43:44,780 To, like, change your allegiance. 797 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,360 That's why Jesus says, repent and trust this good news. 798 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,460 He's saying, like, hey, stop participating in the forces of darkness. 799 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,980 Join in with the kingdom of light and glory. 800 00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:01,420 Jesus has gone before you to crush the spiritual forces of darkness. 801 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,464 They are going to be put to rights. 802 00:44:03,552 --> 00:44:04,472 Like, they're done. 803 00:44:04,576 --> 00:44:06,248 Choose the kingdom of light. 804 00:44:06,384 --> 00:44:07,420 Choose, glory. 805 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,632 Participate. 806 00:44:08,696 --> 00:44:10,264 Be a part of the kingdom of light. 807 00:44:10,352 --> 00:44:13,708 Jesus says, you are the salt and the what? 808 00:44:13,764 --> 00:44:14,680 Of the world. 809 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:18,200 You are the salt and the light of the world. 810 00:44:20,020 --> 00:44:22,400 So the other Night Recovery Church. 811 00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:24,840 This is my last story. 812 00:44:28,740 --> 00:44:31,452 We had a guy show up to Recovery Church who just got out 813 00:44:31,476 --> 00:44:32,240 of jail. 814 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:37,484 He did a stint in Johnson County Department of Corrections 815 00:44:37,532 --> 00:44:38,840 and then Marion County. 816 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,540 He just wanted to hit them all at the same time, sample them. 817 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,660 And he came back and like, I was so excited to see him. 818 00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:58,980 And he gave me a letter from a guy who used to come to our meeting 819 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,300 over in a neighborhood in Whiteland. 820 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,792 And he asked if we could bring him some diapers for a friend who 821 00:45:06,816 --> 00:45:07,620 needs help. 822 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:17,292 And so, like, this guy who came back to the meeting, he and 823 00:45:17,316 --> 00:45:21,756 I together went to this house over in this Whiteland neighborhood 824 00:45:21,948 --> 00:45:24,764 with a guy that I met, I've told you about and ride along with 825 00:45:24,772 --> 00:45:25,404 a police officer. 826 00:45:25,452 --> 00:45:28,280 Police officer had some bad words to say about this house. 827 00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:33,020 And so this guy who came back to me and was like, hey, can we go 828 00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:33,960 to this house? 829 00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:37,508 Take them some food and take them some diapers. 830 00:45:37,684 --> 00:45:39,396 This is the practical part, folks. 831 00:45:39,428 --> 00:45:41,440 This is how big salvation is. 832 00:45:42,220 --> 00:45:45,412 I'm not just saying, God, let me be in compliance so I can make 833 00:45:45,436 --> 00:45:45,956 it to heaven. 834 00:45:45,988 --> 00:45:46,852 In the end. 835 00:45:47,036 --> 00:45:50,852 Jesus is saying, ross, right now you get an opportunity to be 836 00:45:50,876 --> 00:45:53,160 a part of the kingdom of light and glory. 837 00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:58,880 Go do it and do it with a heart that loves people as I do. 838 00:45:59,910 --> 00:46:01,870 Man, I was on my way over to the. 839 00:46:01,910 --> 00:46:03,806 You would have thought we were going to Dave and Buster's. 840 00:46:03,838 --> 00:46:06,126 I was so excited to go over there because I caught a glimpse 841 00:46:06,158 --> 00:46:07,022 of what God is up to. 842 00:46:07,046 --> 00:46:08,478 We went to Dave and Buster's last night. 843 00:46:08,534 --> 00:46:09,390 So expensive. 844 00:46:09,550 --> 00:46:13,150 Anyways, you would have thought that's where we were going 845 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:14,494 because God gave me this vision. 846 00:46:14,542 --> 00:46:19,150 Like, dude, I didn't just save you individually because you're some 847 00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:21,566 wretched moron and I want you to go to paradise. 848 00:46:21,598 --> 00:46:22,206 In the end. 849 00:46:22,278 --> 00:46:24,574 I saved you because I love you. 850 00:46:24,742 --> 00:46:28,526 I want my light and my glory since it's been there since before 851 00:46:28,598 --> 00:46:29,054 time began. 852 00:46:29,102 --> 00:46:31,882 I want it to enter into you and I want it to spark, spill out 853 00:46:31,906 --> 00:46:32,910 onto the earth. 854 00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:36,602 Go show it to people because they need to know. 855 00:46:36,706 --> 00:46:40,990 So we walk to that house and it smells awful. 856 00:46:42,370 --> 00:46:45,190 And they're like, but, man. 857 00:46:45,570 --> 00:46:47,882 And the guy, honestly, he looked terrible. 858 00:46:48,026 --> 00:46:49,770 I couldn't have been happier to see him. 859 00:46:49,810 --> 00:46:51,578 To give him the pizza, to give him the diapers. 860 00:46:51,594 --> 00:46:54,570 And I'm going to continue to be in relationship with him because 861 00:46:54,610 --> 00:46:57,630 I have a chance to be a part of the kingdom of light and glory. 862 00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:59,850 And you do too. 863 00:47:02,870 --> 00:47:06,366 He has saved you not so that you can go somewhere else. 864 00:47:06,398 --> 00:47:09,310 He has saved you so that the kingdom of light and glory can come 865 00:47:09,350 --> 00:47:11,930 to you and come to here. 866 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:19,790 That's it. 867 00:47:19,910 --> 00:47:20,930 Let's pray. 868 00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:33,896 Lord, help us to receive this, this light that you're so willing 869 00:47:33,928 --> 00:47:39,768 to offer to us, this forgiveness that you're so willing 870 00:47:39,784 --> 00:47:40,900 to offer us. 871 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,072 Forgive us God for when we have chosen to participate in the 872 00:47:46,096 --> 00:47:46,860 darkness. 873 00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:53,070 Forgive us for how we'll keep choosing that at times. 874 00:47:54,810 --> 00:47:56,830 Help us to turn back to you. 875 00:47:57,210 --> 00:48:00,482 Help us to catch a glimpse in this season of how big and bright 876 00:48:00,546 --> 00:48:04,110 and beautiful your salvation is. 877 00:48:05,130 --> 00:48:07,430 In Jesus name, Amen. 878 00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:13,682 Thank you for participating in the conversation happening at Heaven 879 00:48:13,746 --> 00:48:15,098 Earth Church. 880 00:48:15,274 --> 00:48:20,950 Your next opportunity to do so live is this Sunday morning, 9:30am 881 00:48:21,570 --> 00:48:26,186 Eastern Time, either at the main campus at 309 East Main in Whiteland, 882 00:48:26,218 --> 00:48:30,474 Indiana or online at YouTube Live. 883 00:48:30,642 --> 00:48:38,938 That's@YouTube.com heavenerth church the audio podcast is always 884 00:48:38,994 --> 00:48:44,148 available at Apple Podcast and on Spotify. 885 00:48:44,324 --> 00:48:48,852 You can help others find out about the Heaven Earth Church podcast 886 00:48:48,996 --> 00:48:53,796 by going to Apple Podcasts and or Spotify and leaving a five star 887 00:48:53,868 --> 00:48:55,680 rating and your review. 888 00:48:56,140 --> 00:49:00,360 Instructions on how to do just that and links are in the show notes. 889 00:49:02,060 --> 00:49:07,970 You can always find out more by going to the church website heavenearthchurch.org. 890 00:49:09,830 --> 00:49:10,142 We. 891 00:49:10,166 --> 00:49:12,382 Want to thank you for spending time with us today. 892 00:49:12,486 --> 00:49:16,030 My name is Ross Stackhouse, the pastor to Heaven Earth Church 893 00:49:16,190 --> 00:49:19,518 and you may think out there that your story is over, but in fact 894 00:49:19,574 --> 00:49:22,814 your faith story may just be beginning. 895 00:49:22,942 --> 00:49:25,726 If you want more information about our church or you're interested 896 00:49:25,758 --> 00:49:29,790 in the next step, you can go to heavenorthchurch.org otherwise 897 00:49:29,870 --> 00:49:32,954 we look forward to being with you next time at the Heaven Earth 898 00:49:33,002 --> 00:49:33,770 Church podcast.