[00:00:00] Corinne Foxx: Welcome back to another episode of Am I Doing This Right? I'm Corinne Foxx.

[00:00:08] Natalie McMillan: And I'm Natalie McMillan.

[00:00:09] Corinne Foxx: And we are best friends, confidant, millennials, and the hosts of Am I Doing This Right? A life how to podcast from the perspective of non-experts.

[00:00:20] Natalie McMillan: And each week we cover a new topic and we pop open a new bottle of wine.

[00:00:24] Corinne Foxx: And this week, our topic is.

[00:00:28] Natalie McMillan: We don't know a

[00:00:32] Corinne Foxx: misery topic episode. We've literally never done this no more. And basically how this is gonna work is each of us, Natalie and I have picked our own topics to teach to the other person. Yeah. And I don't know what Natalie's topic is. Natalie doesn't know what mine is.

Y'all have no idea what's going on here. You're just

[00:00:53] Natalie McMillan: along for the ride and you know what, okay. You know how Corrine's always nervous about like her citizens arrests being bad, or like whatever. I'm concerned that my mystery topic is bad.

[00:01:03] Corinne Foxx: Whatever your topic is is perfect. We're going to find out. Oh, and then at the end of the episode, we're playing something really fun.

Oh yeah.

[00:01:13] Natalie McMillan: Explain it. Yes. Okay. So HBO, max. We're not really strangers, which we had an episode. God, I wish I knew the number.

[00:01:20] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. We had an episode last year. The founder of we're not really

[00:01:24] Natalie McMillan: strangers. Yes. And so which is a card game, a card game and HBO max. And we're not really strangers. They partnered together to make a deck all about female

[00:01:33] Corinne Foxx: friendship.

So we're going to play that episode after we go through our mystery topic. I know. Get into the wine that we're drinking this

[00:01:44] Natalie McMillan: upbeat. Yes. It's a special wine. It is the Christmas Kobe, because Christmas is on

[00:01:54] Corinne Foxx: it's on Thursday. Isn't it? Let's say Friday, Friday.

[00:01:58] Natalie McMillan: It's this week at some point this week it's coming.

It's coming up. So this is the Christmas Kobe Saarah it's from Walla Walla, Washington. Oh, I just

[00:02:08] Corinne Foxx: had a little taste and again guys, it is 11 o'clock in the morning

[00:02:15] Natalie McMillan: and is highly caffeinated. I am

[00:02:17] Corinne Foxx: really caffeinated right now, but also something really fun happened this week as well, Natalie. Your birthday today.

And we are, we are recording this a few days before that, so I'm not missing Natalie's birthday, but I figured in the spirit of mysteries, if we don't know what's going to happen, I want to give you your birthday gift.

[00:02:37] Natalie McMillan: I was very excited. I wish I had brought her Christmas presents so bad.

[00:02:41] Corinne Foxx: Oh my gosh. No, no, no, no, no, no.

It's your birthday. So now it's going to do a live gift opening.

[00:02:49] Natalie McMillan: Should I open the card too, or no? Yeah, you can open the card. I can read it to you if you want. No, I want to read it. Okay. But you should read it for the listener. Oh, I should. Okay. Oh my God. It's my deck. And I box

[00:03:06] Corinne Foxx: that's the, the card is the SNL skit.

Dick a box. If you guys know what that is, if you don't look it up in your welcome.

[00:03:14] Natalie McMillan: Oh, my God. Okay. You want me to read the whole card? Okay. It says, dear Nat, you already know that I'd cease to exist on this planet without you reciprocal feeling point blank period. One of the greatest joys in my life is witnessing you blossom into the beautiful, strong, grounded, healed, incredible woman that you are going to cry.

The world is a brighter, happier place because you are in it. I love you with all my heart happy birthday. I'm going to cry. Love Kerryn, AKA your heterosexual life partner. For real

[00:03:46] Corinne Foxx: though, for real. And the thing is like I wrote the card and I'm like, we literally say this to each other

[00:03:52] Natalie McMillan: every day, every single day.

Like this is pretty much. I just like randomly boys, don't

[00:03:57] Corinne Foxx: rattling. I'm like, I'm just thinking about it and yeah, I could not live on planet earth.

[00:04:01] Natalie McMillan: Yeah. Yes, we do that all the time. Wednesday. I just teared up because it's in writing for some reason, but we do talk about this every single day, every day.

And also the other day I was filling out like a medical form and I had to have, I had to put like a emergency contact. So I put her in and then I was like looking through the list. It was like a 25 long list. No, but I was like, there needs to be a heterosexual life partner. I know there was regular life partner and I was like, dude, do I just say that?

Cause it was like aunt, uncle ex husband. I'm like, I need heterosexual life partner. Okay. Here we go. Okay. Oh, flip it over. It is a book. Oh, okay. It has my name on it. And it's a personal horoscope book.

[00:04:55] Corinne Foxx: It's 40 pages long. And I, you know, I kind of dropped the ball and I was like, what time were you born? I'm doing a

[00:05:01] Natalie McMillan: best friend quiz or whatever.

I really thought you were doing.

[00:05:04] Corinne Foxx: Really? Yeah. I was like, this is so obvious, but whatever I need to get there, her time of birth. Oh, wow.

[00:05:10] Natalie McMillan: No, I really thought, cause then you said there was a pay wall and I'm like, dad, that happens. I know that was a really good room.

[00:05:15] Corinne Foxx: Thanks. Cause I didn't want you to ask for the results.

So I was like, oh, can't do it. So basically it's like your whole. But like explained in depth in the book. And so it like goes through everything. I wanted to open it so bad, but I didn't want to like crease it. So I like kind of peaked. And I ended up looking at like the moon and areas part,

[00:05:33] Natalie McMillan: which was, which you both have, I really need clarification.

[00:05:36] Corinne Foxx: Um, and so yeah, you can just like spend forever reading about yourself and all the different, like little aspects and everything. Here we go, moon in Aries. I kind of like flipped and saw that a little bit, but my

[00:05:49] Natalie McMillan: God, this is so.

[00:05:53] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. Am I right? Is everything right?

[00:05:55] Natalie McMillan: Yep. You know, I was born four 20. Okay.

Four 20 blaze it. Okay. Just

[00:06:00] Corinne Foxx: making sure it was like, I like triple, triple, triple

check.

[00:06:04] Natalie McMillan: Yes, that is perfect. Oh my God, I can't wait to go home and look through this. Yeah, it's 40 pages. Oh my God. Thank you so much.

[00:06:15] Corinne Foxx: Happy birthday, everyone go. Wish not a happy 28. My

[00:06:19] Natalie McMillan: gosh. I'm like really feeling my it's not that I'm aging.

I don't want to say like, well, I'm feeling my age, but like, I feel like I'm becoming more of a. I'm like a full-blown woman adult at this. I mean, yeah.

[00:06:36] Corinne Foxx: And also like through our podcasts, we've really like grown up.

[00:06:40] Natalie McMillan: Yes. And my hairstylist, Anna, shout out to Anna. She does literally everybody's hair that we know, except for, except for current,

[00:06:47] Corinne Foxx: um, mom is her accountant.

[00:06:49] Natalie McMillan: Yes. She's connected to everyone somehow, but she was like, good. We were talking about my birthday and she was like, you also just like, you look like a woman now. She was like, all you guys are starting to look like. And not like little freshly out of college, you know what I mean? Cod.

[00:07:05] Corinne Foxx: Okay. Now, so now that I've given you your guess, should we move into more mysteries, more unknowns?

[00:07:13] Natalie McMillan: Yes. Should I go with my mystery topic? I would love it if you would go first. Okay.

[00:07:18] Corinne Foxx: So when I was thinking about like, what's something we all need to know about as adults, you know, I feel like I do kind of know a little bit about, and I know. I think you

[00:07:29] Natalie McMillan: need help with this? Oh no. Is it asking for help? Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Okay.

[00:07:34] Corinne Foxx: It's passwords.

[00:07:35] Natalie McMillan: Oh, fuck. The up it's

[00:07:38] Corinne Foxx: password security and I'm.

[00:07:42] Natalie McMillan: So I've been so excited about this. Oh my God. I need this. I do need this so much. So I have a few

[00:07:49] Corinne Foxx: cool tips on how to make sure you are protected online. Okay, because we all use passwords to protect some of our most important and confidential information.

Like your bank statements, your work logins and your medical information. And for many online systems, a password is all that stands between your personal information and a half. True. Very true. And not what is your situation? Yeah, my

[00:08:14] Natalie McMillan: situation is that I have had the same password. I'm not kidding. Some sixth grade to on some things on some things on other things.

If my assistant's listening right now, she's going to laugh so hard because she gets logged out of things sometimes. And then she's like, Hey, what's the password for Pinterest or whatever. And I'm like, I have no idea. I have to make a new password every single time because I have no.

[00:08:41] Corinne Foxx: Yeah, well, this is not good.

This is not, you're not in a good situation. I am not. Well, you are really only one weak password away from a breach. And despite the increasing sophistication of hacker technologies and tools, the easiest step of a hack, it's still just cracking a password. In fact, it's so easy that many times it doesn't even involve guessing at all.

Really don't hear something crazy. 24% of Americans have used the word password QWERTY, you know, just down the keyboard line or 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 as their password. Oh my

[00:09:15] Natalie McMillan: God. I remember back in like the nineties, my dad's password was password. Yeah, my

[00:09:19] Corinne Foxx: mom's was too. And so if you. You know, have a simple password, or if you've used that simple password across multiple accounts, a reported 92% of online users do do that.

That puts your data at risk. Okay. Interesting. And what's really scary is that 1 million passwords are stolen every week. So I've

[00:09:40] Natalie McMillan: also heard. You might have this as a little factory, but I've also heard that most people use their pet's names. Oh, w oh, we're, we're going to go there because I specifically don't do

[00:09:50] Corinne Foxx: that.

We're going to go there, but yeah, no, you can't do that because, well, we'll get that. Okay. Okay. Well, we'll get there. I didn't want to jump the gun. No, no, no, no. I think it's also important to know that hackers have published as many as 555 million stolen passwords on the dark web. If you're on a mailing list, they will email you like, Hey, we are Dana was Bree, like target, all your passwords are probably floating on the dark web

[00:10:14] Natalie McMillan: somewhere.

It also says like on my iPhone, sometimes it's like, this password has been compromised and it's like, you should change it immediately. And I'm like, that's all right. I'm like,

[00:10:24] Corinne Foxx: okay. So if you're listening right now and you're like, oh shit, this is. And let me give you some fun little tech one, make your password long.

So hackers use multiple methods for trying to get into your accounts. The most rudimentary way is to personally target you and manually type in letters, numbers, and symbols to guess your password. The more advanced method is to use what is called a brute force attack. So. Technique, basically like a computer program runs through every possible combination of like letters, numbers, symbols, as fast as possible to crack your password.

And so the longer, and the more complex your password is the longer that takes and passwords that are three characters long, take less than a second to crack. Can you

[00:11:08] Natalie McMillan: even have one that's like three, I don't know how somebody with.

[00:11:13] Corinne Foxx: I guess I could be three, but I feel

[00:11:15] Natalie McMillan: like every time you sign up, it's like you have to have a Capitol and 12

[00:11:18] Corinne Foxx: characters now, which is great.

I mean, it's what you should be doing. Another thing you can do is make your password a nonsense phrase. So long passwords are good, but long passwords that include random words or phrases is better. So if your letter combinations. In the dictionary, your phrases are not in published literature or none of it is grammatically correct.

They will be harder to crack.

[00:11:44] Natalie McMillan: Yes. That might be why mine has not been cracked because it is a very obscure password.

[00:11:49] Corinne Foxx: And also don't use characters that are in sequential order on the keyboard, such as numbers in order like 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 4, or don't use QWERTY court.

[00:12:00] Natalie McMillan: I had no, I would never have guessed QWERTY wasn't there.

[00:12:04] Corinne Foxx: It is another thing that, that you can do, which they actually make you do. A lot of the time is include numbers, symbols, uppercase, lowercase letters. They like a lot of times you have to have that now, but yeah, randomly mix up symbols and numbers with letters. You can also substitute a zero for the letter O or the at sign for an a, and if your password is a phrase, consider capitalizing the first letter of each new word, which will actually make it easier for you to write.

A hundred percent. And then this is what you, this is what you were saying. Avoid using obvious personal information. So if there was information about you that it's easily discoverable such as your birthday, your anniversary, your address, your city of birth, high school relatives and pets. Now. Pet's names thinking do not include them in your password.

I literally like on my Instagram highlight story that says Archie, so that, that would probably not be a good thing for me.

[00:12:58] Natalie McMillan: Yes. Yes. If I had any that said Zeplin game over, it's

[00:13:02] Corinne Foxx: really all we talked about. And then lastly, don't reuse passwords, not tag li. Bruce complete large-scale hacks. As they have recently done with popular email servers, the lists of compromised email addresses and passwords are often linked online.

So if your account is compromised and you use this email address and password combination across multiple sites, your information can be easily used to get into any of these other accounts.

[00:13:29] Natalie McMillan: Uh, huh? They can just go through

[00:13:31] Corinne Foxx: all of them. Oh yeah, for sure. But I know it's really hard to remember passwords and something that I started maybe like two or three years ago.

We're good at this has changed my life and was on all the lists is to use a password manager. You have to pay for these, but it's kind of worth it. So a password manager. I password or last pass, create strong, unique passwords for all of your accounts. And that means that if one of your passwords does get caught up in one of these data breaches, criminals, won't have the keys to the rest of your online services and the best types of password managers sync.

Desktop and mobile and have auto-complete futures. That's what I need. So it's like, if you're creating a new account on your phone, and then you go on your computer, that new password will be there and it's all connected

[00:14:19] Natalie McMillan: because you know how sometimes you can do the, like it's like Siri suggests this long ass password.

So I'll do that sometimes. Cause I forget a password so many times, but then it doesn't sync to my phone and I'm

[00:14:30] Corinne Foxx: like, fuck. 24 characters. Um, but the only little caveat to that is now, yes, you don't have to memorize dozens of meticulously crafted passwords, but you do have to remember the one master key to get into the password manager.

And if that's compromised, you're fucked. It's like cryptocurrency. If you forget the password, you're fucked, you're fucked. Um, and also if someone guesses that password you're fucked.

[00:14:58] Natalie McMillan: Oh my God. Yes. Cause they've got the keys to the whole thing at

[00:15:00] Corinne Foxx: that point. And another thing that you can do to just keep yourself safe is to change your passwords regularly.

So the more sensitive your information is, the more often you should change your password. Once it's changed, do not use that password again for a very long time. And then lastly, my last little. The street tip is, which I think a lot of people do, but enable two factor authentication. If you can do it, they often send you like a little code.

Like you have to put the password in and then you learn code and you go to the code. There's a lot of different ways to keep yourself. So that's my feel on task. That

[00:15:37] Natalie McMillan: was a great little mystery

[00:15:38] Corinne Foxx: top. I was very excited about it. Oh my gosh. Passionate about password

[00:15:43] Natalie McMillan: safety. She gets on me all the time about the password thing.

I also heard, this is just a fun tip and I don't know why I know this, but Rami Malik. I think it was because I was watching God. What was that show? He was. Mr robot, which is like a show about hackers. Yeah. And he was saying that they had like a lot of people come on to like advise them. Right. And they were like, you should basically change your email address, like once a month

[00:16:09] Corinne Foxx: change the email address.

Yes.

[00:16:11] Natalie McMillan: So he was like, I guess once a month has a brand new email, so nobody can ever like contact him. Jesus Christ. It seems intense. It seems intense, but Hey, I guess that is a thing. Wow. Again, I haven't changed my email address since I was in sixth grade. So there's that. Okay. Are you ready for my mystery topic and ready to be

[00:16:34] Corinne Foxx: schooled?

Okay. So mine,

[00:16:37] Natalie McMillan: I was thinking about how all of us know somebody who's like chronically ill or sick in some sort of way. And a lot of times. I don't know how to like talk to you about, you know, it's like kind of a tough subject, cause you're like, I don't know if they want to talk about it. I don't know like how to approach it, blah, blah, blah.

So this is actually, there's a girl on Instagram called chronic and creative and she makes all these little infographics and all this stuff about chronic illness. So this is how you can talk to somebody, a friend, a family member about their.

[00:17:14] Corinne Foxx: I'm excited about it. We've also both have chronic chronic

[00:17:17] Natalie McMillan: illnesses.

So yeah, if you ever want to talk to us about our illnesses, here are your tip

[00:17:21] Corinne Foxx: not has type one and I have endometriosis. Yes.

[00:17:24] Natalie McMillan: So we're, we sometimes are in a little bit

[00:17:27] Corinne Foxx: of a struggle bus, you know, and recently I think it was funny. I had a bad endo day and then you had a bad diabetes day, I think the next day.

And it was just like, we were like,

[00:17:36] Natalie McMillan: why.

Take a little sip of my drink, wine get into it. Okay. So number one is do your own research. So most of us, I think both of us are very comfortable with talking to people, answering questions about what we have and, you know, spreading the knowledge, whatever, but there's really nothing that makes you feel more loved than.

Having somebody that knows what it is themselves. Like they look into it and they're like, oh, or they can even have a conversation with you about it. Yeah. Like that is the fact that Corrine knows about like all my little, my decks, calm. She can talk to other people about type

[00:18:20] Corinne Foxx: one. I know. I sometimes I feel like I have type one.

So somebody, sometimes people think I have. Because they talk about it so much. I'm in my, like DMS was like, thanks. Type one, sisters, something like that. I was like, oh my God. I can understand why you would think I

[00:18:35] Natalie McMillan: have type one. You're technically a type one sister. So high. So yeah. That's like a very, cause we have to think about it all the time.

So it was just like to have somebody already, like, you don't have to burden us with telling you about it. Yeah. You already know. That's a really nice thing to do for somebody. For those of us who have something where we're like physically impaired. Just simply asking if like, if you're going somewhere, oh, do you want me to carry your things?

And if they say no, don't, you know, don't say it again, but that could be a really nice gesture. Just be like, Hey, do you want me to carry that? Because living with chronic illnesses is just like elevates everything into a whole nother. So just walking can be tough. You know what I mean? Yeah. This, I think this next little tidbit I think relates very well to when Corona and I last week had our moments, which is just listen.

Just listen, because sometimes we need to just vent and it's like, we know that you might not understand entirely like what's going on. Sometimes we just want to like cry at you.

[00:19:39] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. And we knew that meet me. And you've been doing this recent thing where we just let each other know we're crying. Yes. And it's like, I don't need anything.

I just need you to know I am crying right

[00:19:50] Natalie McMillan: now. Yeah. I just feel like, just feels better that somebody knows. Yeah. Like, okay. I just need you to know that I am crying. I'm figuring it out. Yeah. I just feel like I don't want to do this completely alone, so I just need to tell you that. Yeah. So just listen.

And I was so

[00:20:09] Corinne Foxx: happy when you called when to tell you, and then I'm, well, I hadn't missed your call cause I was at dinner and then I saw, and then you had texted me. Oh, I was crying, but I'm okay now. And I caught it. I said, oh my God, you can call me to tell me you're crying. A great

[00:20:22] Natalie McMillan: honor for me. I was like, oh my God.

The one time. So yeah, I'm trying to be better about reaching out for him and just saying when I'm struggling, the next thing is to not offer unsolicited advice to your friends. If they have chronic illness, because. I don't know if you've really experienced, have people been like, oh, you know, if you did acupuncture go away and do that

[00:20:47] Corinne Foxx: to you.

Yeah. I've had people say things to me. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And it's just the time I've already done it years ago

[00:20:56] Natalie McMillan: and it didn't work. Exactly. Exactly. I mean, people tell me all that. They're like, oh, you know, my grandma had diabetes and then she took vitamin a and it went away. Oh, my God. I'm like, that's not the same one.

Yeah. But it's also just like, don't we already know what we're dealing with. You don't think we've looked at. Because we have, because we have this one, I think is something that I need to lean into more for myself. But the tip is to respect the limits of people who are struggling with an illness. So if they like cancel plans, it's not because they like don't love you or don't want to hang out.

It's because we're, we're tired. Yeah. I mean, imagine on an endo day, a bad endo day.

[00:21:49] Corinne Foxx: I really can't. I mean, it's already a lot for me to sit on a zoom meeting, but I have like a heating pad you can't see and all that stuff, let alone, if I had to go somewhere, I do try to like put my schedule around when I know I'm going to have, they're pretty cyclical.

Yeah. I'm going to have a bad day, but yeah, there are times where I have to cancel because I can't, I can't walk

[00:22:10] Natalie McMillan: like. You know, you just need to, if you've got a friend that's dealing with something like this, it's like, if they cancel last minute, just respect the fact that like they're at their limit. And we really want to be able to do those things.

You know, sometimes our little auto-immune diseases, they say. No, they say you're going to stay home today. Like, okay. So yeah, just kind of respect the don't push it too much if you're like, oh, like, or don't make them feel bad. You know, lastly for this little segment on IRL friendships, cause I'm going to go into online friendships.

Is to just check in and it doesn't have to be like a huge long paragraph. It doesn't have to be like a two hour phone call. You could even just be like, Hey, like I'm thinking about you. I hope you're doing good. Like hope you're feeling well. Like that's just so nice to at least be acknowledged because a lot of the times I think we also downplay how much of our lives are.

Taken over, you know what I mean? Especially on particularly bad days, it's like a whole life change, you know what I mean? So just feeling like, oh, they noticed me, they remember me, like I'm not all alone over here, just like in pain. Yeah. You know,

[00:23:33] Corinne Foxx: and I'm listening to this as someone who has chronic illness, but then also as a friend of somebody who's very ill right now.

And so I feel like. I'm really remembering things for me to do better too. Like, oh, you know, making sure I'm checking in more frequently, things like that. So anyways, and listening as both the student and the teacher,

[00:23:56] Natalie McMillan: the, the expert, you are both student and experts. Yeah. Because it really applies to. And he doesn't have to be in auto-immune disease.

It can be any sort of sickness somebody dealing with. Like, and again, it doesn't have to be a big because the other thing is, at least for me, If somebody checks in on me and it's just like, kind of a light thing like that, like, oh, Hey, like I'm just thinking about you and like, how are you doing? That's like so much easier than like having a big, long con cause sometimes I don't want to talk about it forever and ever.

So that's just nice. It's a really nice thing to do. So then this, I thought about how we have, obviously our in-person friends, but as, particularly by from the pan pandemic, a lot of us have like online friends, like exclude that we haven't met, you know, Instagram friends that you haven't even met in person, you know, but they might know that you're dealing with.

So one thing to know is that they might just like your message. If you send them a message and they just hit you with the little, little double tap it's because they want you to know, I saw this, I read it, but I, I just don't have the mental capacity. Cause sometimes you're just so tired and you're like, I can't, I can't do it.

Yeah. And in that same area, They might not respond. And I've noticed that I'm starting to do this more, is not responding for like maybe even days. Yeah. Because he just, you have to get the strength up. You want to be present with them. And sometimes when you're so tired or if you're sick, you're just like, I can't do it.

So yeah. Just kind of recognize that they are, I think the overarching theme here. We, and when I say we, I mean the chronically ill, but like, we love you guys so much. If you feel like you're being ignored, it's probably not. It's probably just that. We're dealing with

[00:25:57] Corinne Foxx: a lot

[00:25:57] Natalie McMillan: on an everyday basis. That for me, at least I tend to downplay like how much of my life it takes.

Yeah. So people that are dealing with these things, it's a lot of work and that can be really tiring. And sometimes that makes things get put on the back burner, like responding to text messages or Instagram, DMS, or whatever, whatever. So again, that can go right back to like, Texting, you know, somebody, you know, like you don't have to respond, just wanting to know I'm thinking about you.

Yeah. Something like that. I think that's great. And that is my spiel on how to talk to your chronically ill friends.

[00:26:36] Corinne Foxx: I'm proud of you for doing that because I feel like you've been wanting to talk more about your experience with type one. And I, I think you were very honest about how it affects you and what you also would like.

Yeah. Yeah.

[00:26:51] Natalie McMillan: I mean, I dunno. I feel like all my friends are like, very good about it. The one thing that I will say, and I've told Corinne this there, I think there's two people in my life, Corrine being one of them who actually know what I have. Yeah. So that can be kind of like, I think for me, that would be the number.

[00:27:09] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. I don't like explaining it to people. It's not fun, especially mine. Cause it has to do with your reproductive system and sometimes they don't want to talk to somebody. I don't know very well about my uterus.

[00:27:24] Natalie McMillan: Right? Yeah. It's kind of an intimate subject. Yeah. But it's just like, If somebody were to even look in, do equivalent Google search, like what is endometriosis?

[00:27:36] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Well, that was a great mystery topic. It was a great mystery topic and we hope you guys learned more about password security and how to talk to a

[00:27:45] Natalie McMillan: chronically ill friend. And if you like mystery topics, we can bring them back.

[00:27:50] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. We can bring them back. It was fun for me because it was like, I don't know what to do.

I know,

[00:27:55] Natalie McMillan: I know, I really thought about in 2022, I was like, I need to get that password keeper situation,

[00:28:00] Corinne Foxx: a password manager manager, and let's start the year off secure, secure,

[00:28:07] Natalie McMillan: if not only for my, my poor assistant who asks me every three days, what's the password to this. Am I gonna say, let me remake it. Um,

[00:28:15] Corinne Foxx: okay, well let's circle back on the wine.

Oh. And introduce her Hottie leak. Do you wanna introduce her? Oh, I'm very excited about. I love her. She's so great.

[00:28:24] Natalie McMillan: It's Emily

[00:28:25] Corinne Foxx: blunt, suddenly black. And we chose her because she doesn't have social media, which makes her a little mysterious. Yeah. And again, the theme for today is mystery. I

think

[00:28:33] Natalie McMillan: she's hilarious.

And she's just like stunning and such a good actress. She has a British accent and

[00:28:38] Corinne Foxx: she's a mystery. She's, she's a mystery. And I also feel like, I know.

[00:28:43] Natalie McMillan: Exactly. Exactly. Yes,

[00:28:45] Corinne Foxx: yes, yes. Okay. So the wine

[00:28:48] Natalie McMillan: is, it is the Christmas Kobe from Walla Walla, Washington. It's a 2018. It's a sarong

[00:28:56] Corinne Foxx: Saarah. So one Emily blunt, what are you feeling on this?

I actually really like this. I don't like Serrano's a lot

[00:29:04] Natalie McMillan: at first. I was like, Ugh, but it's kind of opened up more.

[00:29:08] Corinne Foxx: It's not like my favorite, favorite, favorite. I'll give it an eight from Kerryn. Give it whatever you want. It's your birthday. You're going to give it a six from Nat salad. Seven, seven out of Emily, Emily blunt.

[00:29:24] Natalie McMillan: Also

[00:29:25] Corinne Foxx: love her husband. I'm yeah. He's has he been no,

[00:29:28] Natalie McMillan: we'll find, well, we'll sneak him into a Hottie position for sure.

[00:29:40] Corinne Foxx: Okay. This is the. I said, we play a little wrap-up game and today we're playing, we're not really strangers in partnership with HBO, max, Mario Mac, which we're very excited about.

[00:29:49] Natalie McMillan: I know, and the little thing on the box as we don't become our best selves by ourselves, we really, that is, so

it also had this little card like that it came with that said you don't need a lot of besties, just the right ones. No.

[00:30:08] Corinne Foxx: True re re my birthday card again, I would not exist on this planet

[00:30:12] Natalie McMillan: without know truly, truly, truly. And I was trying to explain that to somebody the other day. I was like, I just need you to know, like, when I say we're a heterosexual life partners, I mean, like one would not exist without the other, but it's not in a co-dependent way.

It's just in like a simple fact sort of thing. I actually think

[00:30:30] Corinne Foxx: on a molecular level, if you weren't here just poof,

[00:30:34] Natalie McMillan: she would not exist. I would just disintegrate. Okay. So I think we can just, it's not in any sort of order, so I think we can just draw one. Okay. You want to go first birthday girl? Should I just pick it off the top?

Off the top? Oh, what am I most likely to get arrested for? Oh my

[00:30:52] Corinne Foxx: God. What are you most likely to get arrested

[00:30:56] Natalie McMillan: for? Yeah,

[00:30:58] Corinne Foxx: I can't see you getting arrested for anything for what can you get arrested for? I don't even know. I mean, I think the, maybe if we were out, cause you do get a little, like when you drink, you get a little, you get a little fun so I could see maybe like, It too much.

[00:31:17] Natalie McMillan: How much fun? Yeah, I, yeah, something around that, something like

[00:31:22] Corinne Foxx: that. It wouldn't be a harmless thing. It wouldn't be anything I can't even imagine getting arrested honestly. And I feel like I feel bad that I can't really answer that.

[00:31:29] Natalie McMillan: You know what though, if it was in the reverse, if I had to think of what you would get arrested for, I don't know what it would be either.

I'm such a rule follower, you know what I think it would be, well, I guess, you know, I'm answering this in the reverse, but I feel like if you were at like some sort of March on Washington, that like was somehow oh, okay. Amy

[00:31:48] Corinne Foxx: Schumer got arrested. Do that for sure. I

[00:31:50] Natalie McMillan: would see maybe something like that

[00:31:52] Corinne Foxx: for sure.

Okay. Well let's okay. Let's see. What's the biggest risk you've ever taken at work? Did it pay off, I guess I'm asking you this.

[00:32:02] Natalie McMillan: Oh, you're asking me then what's the biggest risk I've ever taken at work. And did it pay off? Yes. It paid off what it is. Is it when I quit all my other job. Because that's

[00:32:13] Corinne Foxx: also when you went exclusively online, like when you oh yeah,

[00:32:17] Natalie McMillan: that was a big risk for sure.

Oh yeah. That was a big risk. And that did pay off. It did, but the one that I'm thinking about that was like momentous is when I first started my brand, I had like two other jobs and I had quit one and then I had quit the second. And I, it was like within walking distance of my house. And I remember walking home.

Oh, fuck. Like I have to make it work. Yeah. You know,

[00:32:45] Corinne Foxx: you bet on yourself. I did. It was

[00:32:47] Natalie McMillan: very scary. I remember just walking home and I'm like, oh shit. But Hey, I've never had another job

[00:32:52] Corinne Foxx: since look at that driving.

[00:32:55] Natalie McMillan: I really do feel like I'm driving. You are all right. I'm going. We'll do one, one more. Yeah, we'll do one more each.

What part of your career fuels you and what drains you.

[00:33:07] Corinne Foxx: Oh, I feel like I'm in such a great place with my career right now, where I have the ability to create the things that I want to be in and I'd want to see. So I really love developing and creating these shows that I'm working on it is so fun. It's such a creative outlet for me.

And then the part of my work that says drains. Yeah. What drains you? Honestly? All of the in-between. I actually just hired a personal assistant. Yeah. Figuring out, coordinating times, all that stuff. It's like stuff that takes away from my creativity. And I spend a lot of time just answering emails, back and forth to set appointments, set, set lunches, find places, eat, lunch out what this looks like.

I just want to focus on the creative behind everything. And so I'm really excited for the new year to just have my assistant do all the stuff that I think takes away from me being like a creative person. Yeah.

[00:33:58] Natalie McMillan: A hundred percent. Yeah, I totally get that. It's. Backend

[00:34:02] Corinne Foxx: sorta

[00:34:04] Natalie McMillan: like admin shit. And I'm like, oh my God, I've just spent a whole day doing this and are like, it kills

[00:34:09] Corinne Foxx: the creativity.

It does. And I love this podcast too. It's just such like a source for both of us. Yes, I do love. Okay, this is our last one. What about your upbringing felt most different from your friends?

[00:34:25] Natalie McMillan: Ooh. What felt most different? Oh, I feel like I could answer this for you. I feel like I didn't realize that mine was very different until after the fact, but I think I.

I grew up in a very interesting dynamic where the four of us. So my dad, my mom, my brother and myself lived four completely

[00:34:51] Corinne Foxx: live. Well, you always say, you really didn't know your brother until you got older. I

[00:34:54] Natalie McMillan: didn't know, Kenny till I was 20, probably. Yeah, like actual and he lived in the room next to me.

And like, I literally did not know who the person was, but I just sorta like raised myself. And like I was always at. Another per like other people's houses. So yeah, we had four completely separate lives.

[00:35:16] Corinne Foxx: Yeah. And you guys did get a lot closer though, as you've gotten older. Oh yeah. Kenny and

[00:35:20] Natalie McMillan: I are like friends, but back in the day, I'm like, I don't even know who this person is.

I didn't know. Yeah. I was just doing my own thing, so, but I didn't know. That was weird until, until later.

[00:35:34] Corinne Foxx: Wow. I feel like we could play this. We will play this, like go through all the cards together, but thank you, HBO max for sending us that mentorship with gossip girl. Oh, it is. Yes. I'm the bottom of the cards inspired by the original. Oh, so each question. Yes. So that one was inspired from

[00:35:55] Natalie McMillan: gossip girl. Yeah.

So like the one that says, what am I most likely to get arrested for? It's inspired by the HBO max original, the flight attendant.

[00:36:03] Corinne Foxx: Oh. And this other one was the biggest risk was inspired by industry. Oh, industry. This is so interesting. Cool. Oh my gosh. Yeah, you guys can pick this up.

[00:36:15] Natalie McMillan: So it's based on the female friendships from their

[00:36:18] Corinne Foxx: shows.

A lot of them are from IME destroy. You. Okay? Yeah. Guys, we will link it in the show notes. If you guys want to pick this up, this is super cool. Thank you. And yeah, we hope you guys have. Mystery episode. And also don't forget to join our newsletter. Oh, maybe we'll write in the newsletter. One of the questions on the cards for you guys to ask your friends.

Yes. We'll put in the newsletter this week. You can sign up for it on, am I doing this right? pod.com. You know what else we should

[00:36:48] Natalie McMillan: do that? I'll put it on the Instagram. I'll take a picture of 1 0 1 on Instagram and then you can put, respond.

[00:36:55] Corinne Foxx: Probably not so

[00:36:56] Natalie McMillan: much fun, so much fun.

[00:36:57] Corinne Foxx: Okay. Well, we love you guys and we'll be back next week with another episode.

Oh. And Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Those who celebrate. Thank love you guys.